#2787 RHOBH S1418 Part Two: Give ‘Em Hell, Garcelle!

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Speaker 1 So Andy's like, Sutton, you told Bose and Malibu you found suspicious that Keely had never been married or had children before

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 Sutton's like, you know, and we see some unseen footage of Bose telling Sutton this and she's like, oh God, wow. When you see that, you kind of want to just like flag it.
Am I right?

Speaker 1 With a big red flag, red, red red red flag but totally supportive of you and uh and he's like do you stand by it she's like well you know me and dating don't go so well so you know man it's just it makes me nervous when men have not been married and are approaching 50.

Speaker 1 i mean i mean do you have commitment issues andy i mean that's all i mean by it he's like uh

Speaker 1 i've never been married yeah and look at you look at you right now

Speaker 1 a grown

Speaker 1 grown Peter Payne with children. Okay.
How do you feel about that? He's like, I have commitment issues, which is kind of her point. So she made that one.

Speaker 1 So, Andy's like, well, okay, let's talk about your fertility journey. No, thanks.
FF. But she's doing that.
She's still doing it. And

Speaker 1 then she's talking about the other ladies. And he says, you know, turning what many found to be kind of an unlikely friendship, you could say,

Speaker 1 bosom buddies, what drew you and Dari together? And she's like, well, you know, I met with Garcel before we started filming. And I was like, tell me all the gossip.

Speaker 1 And she said she wouldn't because she wanted my relationships to be my relationships. And I really respected that.

Speaker 1 So when I came to the Sutton's party, I was inspired by Garcelle's directive to be open. And basically, the other person that was open was Dorit.

Speaker 1 Now, she was an open wound, but thankfully I had a lot of tool to wipe around that womb and stop the bleeding, Andy. I go where I'm needed.

Speaker 1 Honestly, I was just fascinated by her hat that looked like Saturn. So Andy is like...

Speaker 1 All right. Well, Kyle said Dorita so all over Bose's ass, it's actually gross.
And Garcelle said Dorit was an embryo of Bose's Gucci. How do you feel when you hear those comments?

Speaker 1 And Dorita's, it was a little pathetic.

Speaker 1 But it was funny, too. You got to admit, it was funny.
Wait, hold on one second. Hold on.
Let me dust this one off.

Speaker 1 Well, Bose said on the after show that Sutton and Goreet... Wait, Sutton and Garcelle.

Speaker 1 That would be Garcell and Dorit in a couple sorry about that Sutton and Garcelle were jealous and we see a flashback of them saying that Bo saying well perhaps from jealousy that I would find any interest in Dorit given that perhaps I'm not finding interest in them

Speaker 1 So Garcelle is like, absolutely not. Only time I really had a problem with it was when we were in Oceanside and you guys were talking and talking and we were just left out for an hour.

Speaker 1 I mean, you guys were just yapping down there on your side of the table. And we see a flashback to when they were talking at a table and Garcelle saying, Are we not included in this conversation?

Speaker 1 So, Garcell's like, Can I tell you, if you run the tape of me of the past five years, everybody had an issue with Sutton and I being friends, so it's not like this is crazy that this happened.

Speaker 1 Flashback to Diana Jenkins. You're fake, you are such a fake and a phony fake fake.

Speaker 1 And Garcelle saying, That's kind of shitty.

Speaker 1 Are you her bodyguard? You need a new win.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, if people have an issue with you two being friends, then wouldn't you say,

Speaker 1 I'm not going to engage? And she's like, well, no, I'm not going to go on and on about it. I mean, oh my God, how are they friends? Oh, my God.
How are they getting along? What do they have in common?

Speaker 1 I'm not going to do all that kind of stuff. I mean, is she an embryo stuck up for Gucci? Perhaps.

Speaker 1 Is she a piece of tool who wants to attach to her dress? Perhaps. but I'm not going to go on and on.
And Bose and Dorit are like, yes, you did. You did do that.
You did go on and on.

Speaker 1 But to be fair, you all, not Bose, because she wasn't here, but everyone else went on and on about Garcelle standing up for Sutton all the time, too. It's not like you guys never said anything.

Speaker 1 So why is it bad for Garcelle to say something if she's saying it? And you guys have no problem saying that Garcelle is up Dorit's ass every single reunion. So why is it a Sutton problem? You know?

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. So

Speaker 1 Bose bose is like well there just was so many times that you did that and everybody's like yeah you stuck together you're stuck there you go you're stuck together um and because now they're literally stuck

Speaker 1 because garcel's garcel's glove is stuck on sutton's dress

Speaker 1 and uh so she's like well look uh on anyways to be honest if i said stuff i'm glad you had a friend in bose all right i don't have a problem with that i'm just glad that you don't have a friend in me because this is not toy story all right i don't need your poor ass in my life so you're happy for dorit that she has a friend yes yes

Speaker 1 or as i like to say it opposite of no um by the way i think the reason why everyone jumps on this is because the fox force five even though they're four now they were really they were really they got really annoyed at the being called now they're just down to three yeah it's just erica dorit and kyle because teddy and ritty were the other ones yeah you're right Either way, they were all very,

Speaker 1 very

Speaker 1 sensitive about being called the Fox Force 5, being called the click.

Speaker 1 And they would sort of respond by trying to own it, being like, here we are, the Fox Force 5, or they'd be like, we're not a click. They hated it.

Speaker 1 They hated being called a click because they were so obviously a click. And it was so true.
It was so, it's obvious to everyone. Everyone knows that they're a click.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 they don't want to admit that they're a click, but they are. So that's why they get so mad about it.

Speaker 1 So anytime they have an opportunity to sort of throw it back at someone else and get the click heat off of them onto other people, they will take it 100% of the time.

Speaker 1 And just to be fair, the Fox Forest 5 is fucking annoying, standing up for each other blindly, as they do in this reunion and every reunion. But also Garcelle and Sutton are fucking annoying too.

Speaker 1 That she, that whole thing annoys me too, with the like, you have to have my back. You have to have my back.
You have to have my back. You have to have my back.
Who has my back? Who has my back?

Speaker 1 Like, part of me is like, you're, you're adults. Like, everyone get over it.

Speaker 1 And the Dorit and Bose thing does kind of get on my nerves too, because it would be nice for Dorit to just be able to fight with somebody and not have somebody intelligent standing right there to speak for Darit because Dorit couldn't handle most of this on her own, you know?

Speaker 1 So it's kind of annoying all over the place, even though it's part of these shows, you know, it's like a built-in part of these shows.

Speaker 1 So I just don't understand how they all get mad at each other when they all do it, you know?

Speaker 1 I mean, my hot take is I actually don't really mind the Bose and Dorit situation, and I actually don't really mind the Garcell and Sutton thing.

Speaker 1 It's always annoying when they get into conversations about who has my, like, do you have my back? Do you have my back?

Speaker 1 And it's sort of surprising because Sutton and Sutton and Garcell never really talked like that before until this season.

Speaker 1 But I think the Fox Force 5 was way more egregious because it was like a group of people and they were very sanctimonious and they repeatedly would run people off the show and they would attack people for things that they themselves were guilty of.

Speaker 1 And whenever being confronted with the things that they do, they get all like, how dare you about it? So I think that's also the big difference between it.

Speaker 1 But it is annoying when you get into conversations of like, you don't have my back, which is like, of course, like the Salt Lake City, you know,

Speaker 1 that's the part I'm talking to.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but they all, you know, they all do it. It's part of the show.
So

Speaker 1 Kyle's, Bose says the most offensive part was where she. that Garcell said that Bose was being manipulated by Doreed.
And she's like, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 And Kyle goes, well, I didn't think she was being manipulated.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Kyle, okay. So Bose is like, I mean, that's insulting to me.
And

Speaker 1 if you think for one second there's anything that Dariet could say that would influence my opinion of you, then you don't think very much of yourself. And Garcelle's like, okay.
Okay.

Speaker 1 But what Garcelle is saying is you're naturally going to have more of a problem because the only thing you know about these people is information you're being fed by Dariet, which is natural.

Speaker 1 And you said yourself that when you got together with Garcelle, Garcelle would not feed you that information because she didn't want to color your experience.

Speaker 1 And you said, great, because that could have colored my experience. So now why can't you admit that hearing only information from one other person could possibly color your experience?

Speaker 1 I mean, you just said the other argument five minutes ago. So,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 I agree. So now we go to commercial break.
And when we come back, Andy dives into a sudden segment. So we see a montage.
I'm not Sutton, I mean Garcelle.

Speaker 1 They really are. They really are bosom buddies because I am mixing them up.
So Garce, we see Garcelle. She, guys, you won't believe it.
I got a beach house, a beach house in Oxnard.

Speaker 1 There's a black girl missing. Part three, boys.
We got the studio.

Speaker 1 We found her and she's in Oxnard. She built a beach house.
It's a beach house, everyone. Black girl missing.

Speaker 1 So then we move to the juicier clips of Garcelle saying, confronting Kyle about Morgan, saying, we tiptoe around Morgan. We don't know what that situation is.
And Kyle's saying, There is no situation.

Speaker 1 Maybe one day I'll have a great story to tell. Okay.

Speaker 1 I hope you do. I hope you do.
I hope you dance.

Speaker 1 Okay, so

Speaker 1 Andy's like,

Speaker 1 all right, everyone, here it comes. A lot to unback there.
So on Entertainment Tonight,

Speaker 1 she said she wanted to see Sutton and Garcelle open up more about their real lives.

Speaker 1 And Erica's like, yeah, we want the juicy scoop. What's happening? Garcelle's like, I wish there was more.
I mean, I put in pretty cool tiling in my home, did I not?

Speaker 1 I mean, what else do you want from me? And Erica's like, that's what we're getting at. You know,

Speaker 1 I'm not saying she's not telling us what's happening, but what are you doing? And she goes, there's nothing else to show. I'm showing you everything.
Well, are you dating? Are you? Where's your love?

Speaker 1 Where's anybody's love life? Literally none of you. Come on.
I don't believe it.

Speaker 1 Where are your friends, Erica? Who are the people in your life? Who do you hang out with? What are your hobbies? Do you do anything other than like get in makeup? And like, what about Marco, Marco?

Speaker 1 What about your default in the Marco Marco case? It's going to get you in trouble again.

Speaker 1 What about you being sued for another $24 million because someone's about to prove that your ass knew what Tom was doing all along to fund your stupid career? Come on. What about that?

Speaker 1 Why is that such a problem to talk about this year? What about the way you parked in the pavilion's parking lot, which I'm just assuming was poorly?

Speaker 1 I don't. So, Garcelle's

Speaker 1 saying,

Speaker 1 So, Garcelle's like, you know, listen, what do you want me to show? And Andy's like, dating. And I'm like, Yeah, are you getting a little? And she goes, No, I mean, I went on two dates with somebody.

Speaker 1 And so, Andy's like, what do you guys want to see? And she goes, Yeah, what more do you want? Like, there's nothing I'm not showing.

Speaker 1 And, you know, to be fair, Garcelle is showing what's going on in her life. She's been building a house for three years.
She's been working and producing films and acting and a ton of stuff.

Speaker 1 I mean, she's busy. She is showing what she's doing.
It may not be the most exciting content, but she is doing something. And I would venture to say more than most of you.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And so Erica's like, no, I guess I just wish you were more interesting, I guess. And Bo's like,

Speaker 1 well, we can't all be living off the backs of orphans and widows, Erica. You know,

Speaker 1 we can't all be embroiled in scandal. And Garcelle's kind of like,

Speaker 1 I already had my scandal. I've already been through this.
I did this. That's passe.

Speaker 1 You're like, I'm farther ahead than you are. I've figured out my life and I'm like doing things with it.

Speaker 1 Well, she makes a good point where she's like, my divorce was before I came on the show and I was very open about it. I talked about the divorce.
I talked about what happened.

Speaker 1 I talked about my feelings. I talked about my revenge on my husband.
I talked about how it made my kids feel, how my kids are still dealing with it. Like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 It's not like I didn't talk about it. What about yours, Erica?

Speaker 1 You're fucking lying, talking about about not seeing tom anymore and having nothing to do with any cases and saying you're completely out of the woods and all of this what the

Speaker 1 and where's what like honestly okay i will even say this

Speaker 1 if she does not want to talk about these horrific scandals in her life i mean obviously we want to hear about it but i'm just putting that to the side Like there was stuff that had, like, this was Erica's life on the show even before the scandal.

Speaker 1 We don't see her with her son. We don't see her with, we just don't see her with anyone.
And it's not interesting.

Speaker 1 And then she says this about Garcel, and Garcel's like, well, that's a shitty thing to say. And she goes, well, I think you kind of led me there.
What?

Speaker 1 You can't blame Garcel for what you just said. And she said, well, I thought we were in a better place.
She goes, well, we are. She goes, no, we're not.

Speaker 1 If you say something like that, she goes, well, I think so. Our experience, my experience, Colin Derie's experience going through all these really ugly, public divorces and coming apart.

Speaker 1 She's like, what do you want me to do? Like, it's not my fault. My ugly divorce came earlier.

Speaker 1 You want me to like date someone for you know like i have a fake relationship and just so i could break up with them to be on the show yeah maybe she could just date a man 50 years her senior for his money and then you know have a big fake pop career that she's paid for and then have it all come crashing down when it turns out she's been married to a fucking criminal the whole time like not everybody gets that exciting of a life erica okay she wasn't pulled off a pole and put on a pedestal like what the fuck do you want So Marcel's like, well, I was open.

Speaker 1 I've been open, you know? And Kyle's like, well, my issue with you is that you say Kyle's not been showing us her life. And I've showed so much of my life, you know?

Speaker 1 Have you?

Speaker 1 Really? She talks about her sisters. Yeah, you've thrown your sisters under the bus.

Speaker 1 You've had no problems talking openly about their problems and their shit going on, but we haven't really heard that much. We still don't know why you left your husband.

Speaker 1 We still don't know if he cheated. We still don't know if he's even dating anybody.
We still don't know if you're dating Morgan. We don't know what's going on with your children.

Speaker 1 Well, what the fuck are you talking about, Kyle? Yeah,

Speaker 1 I will allow that Kyle has shared stuff in her life in the past, but now that there's something actively happening in her life that she won't talk about it when she

Speaker 1 was so vicious and relentless with other people on this show that she has that since left because they just couldn't even deal with it anymore. It was like not worth it to them.

Speaker 1 Lisa Vanderpump, Denise Richards, others, you know,

Speaker 1 like that's where it's frustrating.

Speaker 1 It's not that like just because you shared something five years ago doesn't mean that you're, you're, you're off the hook for, um, not like really avoiding what's going on in your life this season, you know?

Speaker 1 And so Kyle is though, she sees this as an opening where she can deflect from her shit and just attack Garcelle. Right, because nobody wants to see more from Garcelle.
That's not the point.

Speaker 1 They're calling Garcelle boring because Kyle doesn't want to answer whether she's a lesbian right now. That's it.
That's this whole thing. And everybody knows it.

Speaker 1 And Kyle's doing this like, well, what do you want me to tell you? What more do you want from me?

Speaker 1 Like having this big fit. And Erica goes, yeah, that's how we feel.
We've just been so open. We've been so destroyed.
You destroyed your damn self. Okay.

Speaker 1 You destroyed your damn self and your husband destroyed you. So stop with this.

Speaker 1 So Kyle's like, I mean, literally turning the camera, tuning the camera out and never even thinking about the cameras being there. Do you have my right side or my left? Okay.

Speaker 1 Do it again.

Speaker 1 See how much we've done this.

Speaker 1 Kyle, Kyle saying, Kyle's saying, oh my God, do you realize? Like, I'm not even thinking about the cameras being there. Let's rewind the top of the episode.

Speaker 1 Darit, how did you not know they'd catch you smoking a camera? Our cameras are there. We all know the cameras are right there.

Speaker 1 So she's both very aware of the cameras, but she tunes them out. She doesn't remember they're even there.
So Garcelle brings up that last year Morgan was part of the show and they met her.

Speaker 1 So what's the problem with bringing that up? And so we see the flashback to Kyle tattooing the K onto Morgan and being like, ha, I tattooed the K on you. She's like, yeah, she stalked me.

Speaker 1 She stalked me. Yeah.
I made a couple of albums about her. Stalker.

Speaker 1 Bitch with the clipboard. I mean, you know, listen, listen, Morgan did not sign up for the show.
She did not want to be part of it. And she's not part of the cast.

Speaker 1 And Carsella's like, well, she didn't sign up this season, but she was on before.

Speaker 1 She's fair game. And Kyle's like, okay, she came on as a favor to me because I wanted her.

Speaker 1 It was, I wanted her to come on as a favor to me to be someone on the show for no reason because there's no relationship between us.

Speaker 1 What was the favor? Why did you want her on the show show then? Because what ensued after that created a lot of anxiety for her. She didn't ask for this life.

Speaker 1 And I'm trying to be respectful of someone who didn't sign up for it. You know, your son didn't want to be part of the show this season and I respect that.
I'm actually very hurt by you this season.

Speaker 1 Like, well, I was hurt by you. Okay, now I have to say, just to be fair, because Kyle makes me fucking crazy.
I like that Dari asks her about this.

Speaker 1 Not Doreen, Garcell asked her about this, but it did get old. It got to be too much for me where I was just like, okay, like this final one of like, let's talk about Morgan again.
Like, enough.

Speaker 1 You've already done it two other times this season. She said she doesn't want to talk about it.

Speaker 1 Like, I get how Kyle wouldn't want to talk about it and how she would be annoyed, but I also get that you were the one who brought it on camera in the first place, you know?

Speaker 1 But I did think Garcelle went a little far with that personally.

Speaker 1 I mean, I think that like in normal life, if it was just like a group of friends, she did go far.

Speaker 1 But for this show, I don't think so because Kyle is happy to use the platform to talk about who Mauricio is like banging or whatever and talks about Mauricio.

Speaker 1 And by the way, and as she should, because, you know, which is her right. Yeah, I agree.
Yeah, as she should. I fully support that.
But then

Speaker 1 what it is, is that Kyle paints a picture of herself in a certain way. And Garcelle is like, well, but you have to like, but there's more to this story.

Speaker 1 And you're just creating a narrative on this platform that's going out to America. But like, what is, but what's the rest of the story? And it's like frustrating that they have to tiptoe around.

Speaker 1 Kyle never has any problem asking nosy-ass questions about about people, but suddenly they can't ask nosy questions to Kyle.

Speaker 1 And I think that especially about sexuality, as you already brought up, Denise and Brandy's lie that Kyle brought Brandy on to tell.

Speaker 1 So like in a normal social situation, yeah, Garcelle's being tacky as fuck. But honestly, I think that at the end of it, at the end of the day, Garcelle does not really care about Kyle.

Speaker 1 So she's just happy to make Kyle uncomfortable. I think she's always enjoyed doing that.
She enjoys needling Kyle. She enjoys watching Kyle get into, you know, a kerfuffle.
And, you know, I like that.

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Speaker 1 So basically, this turns into Garcel saying, Look, this is something everybody's talking about.

Speaker 1 You're in all the magazines on purpose. So it would look hypocritical for everybody here to just ignore it.
Like, why aren't we allowed to ask?

Speaker 1 And then you go on the after, you pretend you're okay when we're shooting it. Like, I made that lesbian comment at the Chuck E.
Cheese,

Speaker 1 and you laughed about it. And then we see the clip of her being like, Kyle, be who you want to be.
If you want to be a lesbian, be a lesbian. And Kyle cracking up.

Speaker 1 And she's like, and then you were fine with it. And I wasn't even being caddy.
I was just telling you, Kyle, no one will care. We support you.
The fans will support you.

Speaker 1 Everybody's going to support this. You're making it more difficult.
And she goes, and then you find, you acted like you were fine. And then on the after show, you went and you called me an asshole.

Speaker 1 So what's that about?

Speaker 1 Yeah, which also, to be fair to Kyle, like you're allowed to sit, I think she, Kyle is allowed to call Garcell an asshole because how many times have, especially like, how many times have you been confronted about like an uncomfortable situation and then you laugh it off?

Speaker 1 And then it's really like, what an asshole for putting me in that situation. I actually think Kyle was allowed to say that.

Speaker 1 And Kyle's like, well, what was going through my head is that you're being an asshole right now.

Speaker 1 She goes, well, you know, that wasn't, you said that intentionally. She goes, well, just be who you want to be.
Stop worrying what other people think.

Speaker 1 And Andy's like, do you think that's what she's doing? And she's like, yeah, she's just trying, because Kyle does care about what people think.

Speaker 1 And she's very she's very concerned about all that which is why she's being protective about it which is why she doesn't want to talk about it on camera so she's like you were trying to embarrass me that was an asshole move which she shouldn't be embarrassed anyway so

Speaker 1 she was trying to embarrass her yeah garcel's like look you can have your opinion and in any way it's not about if kyle had called her an asshole right then it wouldn't have been a thing it's that kyle acts like she's okay and then she's she's two-faced she goes and then to a different camera calls you an asshole whereas garcel just says right to your face so then um she's like, and then you got mad at Sutton for not jumping on the bandwagon.

Speaker 1 And she goes, well, because Sutton didn't have my back. And that's between me and Sutton.
So, you know, that's between us, period.

Speaker 1 And she goes, well, she, but you're saying that she didn't have your back to come after me. She goes, no, she didn't have my back to support me, not come after you.
No, support you in coming after me.

Speaker 1 Well, Kyle, if you watch the show, as you clearly studied it, you would know that Sutton had just had a conversation with Garcelle where she said, yeah, Kyle needs to be confronted about that.

Speaker 1 and then acted so innocent when it was brought up. That's why she wasn't being supported.

Speaker 1 She actively sat there and made a plan to come talk about it with you and then whisked out at the last second to get your get in your good graces. Yeah.
And so Satan's like, well, you know what?

Speaker 1 You know, she didn't want to talk about Morgan and she wanted to bring that up. So I didn't bring it up.

Speaker 1 Well, if Morgan had not been on the show prior, then I think it would have been okay to say, well, it's part of my life. That's not, that's off the table.

Speaker 1 And Kyle goes, but that's not, that's not her place. She didn't sign a contract to be there.

Speaker 1 i did but again it just never i don't feel like i'm sure if we go back we can find plenty of times where kyle has a lot to say about people i mean honestly

Speaker 1 everything with denise and i always go back to the denise thing because i feel like the the denise like witch hunt was really one of the most like gross things that that click ever did and here they are on camera Well, actually, never mind.

Speaker 1 I'm taking this back because I was going to say they were happy to revel in like this lesbian affair with Denise and Brandy.

Speaker 1 And I was like, Brandy wasn't part of the show. But then I remember Brandy was the one who came to the camera and was like,

Speaker 1 Kyle brought her to the camera. Don't you remember? Kim's like, oh, me and Brandy, we're just in the neighborhood.
Let me come by. Brandy, tell her.
And then Brandy told her on camera.

Speaker 1 I mean, I think they were all shocked and had to take it to everybody else. It's that's actually even worse than what Garcelle is doing because Garcell is merely asking questions.

Speaker 1 Like, can you give some context to this? Right. She's not bringing on to Kyle actually.
She's like, Morgan's or something.

Speaker 1 Yeah, kyle like yeah she did not bring morgan on to the show she's not any of that you know like kyle did like a dirty deed that season like a dirty dirty and then spent the rest of the season going but brandy never lies brandy's not a liar brandy wouldn't lie brandy's a truth teller exactly ask her what she thinks about brandy these days

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 like i just said

Speaker 1 Sutton's been talking about this shit for seasons. And to act like she isn't, like we haven't seen it on TV is ridiculous.
Like Kyle says she didn't want to talk about it. So fine.

Speaker 1 Then why were you have to seize them saying, and then what about Kyle not talking about this and that? I mean, come on. And I think the thing to go back to

Speaker 1 the Morgan thing, because why should we ever talk about anything else? I think what's also probably frustrating for Garcel is that Kyle is on camera talking about, oh my God, I'm realizing that.

Speaker 1 Mauricio has really moved on and, oh, it's really real now. And those are, those are probably all completely real and valid feelings.
Like she probably genuinely feels that way.

Speaker 1 And that is hard to go through but she's she's painting a narrative she's all alone all by herself when it's like but you like there's this situation with morgan wade which maybe she's dating her maybe she's not but it seems like there's a relationship and at the very least there's a very close friendship and and like you're painting a narrative like you're all alone in this in this situation but like actually you're out there also having some fun it seems like and if you're not having fun then clarify it so then it turns to well why why were you just saying that I wasn't, I would, that, um, I wasn't support, I wasn't standing up for Sutton because then you said that, that, like, you know, when, when Sutton was getting trouble in trouble at the table and everybody was coming for Sutton, and then I didn't say anything, you got mad at me for not standing up for her, but you didn't stand up for her and no one else stood up for her.

Speaker 1 Why is it me? Why is it always me? Why?

Speaker 1 Why? Why is it me?

Speaker 1 She's going nuts. And Garcelle is basically like, because she wants it more from you.

Speaker 1 So she's expecting it more from you because she knows she'll get it from me, you know, like she knows that I support her, but she doesn't know if you support her.

Speaker 1 And then you stay there and like she is sitting there asking you to support and you don't do it. And I didn't do it because the moment that I do it, everyone goes, oh, there they are again.

Speaker 1 The two of it's like it's Garcel and Sutton. Garcelle is the mouthpiece again.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think Garcelle is kind of so thrown off by all of this that she's not really standing up for herself very well, you know, because she's not pointing out a lot of things that are going on.

Speaker 1 Like she didn't point out what you just said, which is I'm always standing up for Sutton.

Speaker 1 I was giving Sutton a chance to see if you were going to stand up for her or not if I didn't stand up for her for one scene out of 9 million scenes. And you didn't.
And that's the point.

Speaker 1 That's the point I was trying to make for Sutton. You're trying to win Kyle's approval.

Speaker 1 Kyle does not give a shit about you when you don't care about, you don't care about my approval because you know that you've automatically got it and I will always stand up for you.

Speaker 1 You know, I wish Garcelle kind of had a better defense to some of this stuff. Yeah, she definitely was caught off guard because she was not expecting to be in the hot seat.

Speaker 1 She she thought she was just going to be there and chime in and say things and support Sutton. And she did not realize that this was going to be a

Speaker 1 this would be such a moment, right? So, Kyle does her whole like Jennifer Telly didn't stand up for her. What did I do to deserve it? What did I do?

Speaker 1 And so, Garcelle just says, Okay, well, I'm sorry about that. She goes, I mean, I don't know, it's like, Who do you trust? You know, like, who do you trust?

Speaker 1 Oh, well, surely you could trust your best friend who's texting your ex behind your back, surely. So, I know.

Speaker 1 Well, I know the feeling it's not nice, and I think that's why I retarded towards Bose. She was so real.
I didn't feel like I had to question it ever. Garcel goes, Good.

Speaker 1 And he's like,

Speaker 1 Okay, now we move to the big one, which is Duri.

Speaker 1 How do you feel seeing what Garcell said about someone orchestrating the break-in?

Speaker 1 There was no music.

Speaker 1 You sound silly. Gotcha,

Speaker 1 bitch.

Speaker 1 Gotcha.

Speaker 1 If you're insinuating that Deborah herself set this up for an insurance scam, you are sadly mistaken.

Speaker 1 No

Speaker 1 here.

Speaker 1 So she's like, I don't condest it. Now, here's the thing.

Speaker 1 Before we even get into all of this, Garcel, if you are going to say that somebody or that that was bullshit, you are going to have to take it at the reunion. And that's just it.

Speaker 1 Like she's not in this, in this section, and I don't mean this for the rest of the reunion, but for this section, you said it. Take the heat.

Speaker 1 You're going to have to take the heat.

Speaker 1 I liked her. Well, I mean, when she said, I never said it was you or PK, I mean, that was kind of bullshitty, but I liked what she ultimately said.
I think she stood.

Speaker 1 I think she stood

Speaker 1 very well for herself. I like that she did not back down in this section, but later when she gets upset, like they're all coming for me.
Well, yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, if you say something like that, you have to be prepared to go to the reunion and be ready for her to go on a self-righteous terror against you because she's going to.

Speaker 1 And a lot of the audience will join her. And I like that Garcelle is brave enough to be like, it's bullshit.
That's why I said it.

Speaker 1 So she's like, I don't understand the obsession about one of the most traumatic things in my life.

Speaker 1 Something I suffered terribly for two and a half years. And she goes, well, that's my feeling.
And that's the last time I'm going to talk about it.

Speaker 1 Well, hallelujah, because you have not stopped talking about it since it happened. She goes, oh, please, I've talked about it twice.

Speaker 1 And you feel it was a setup? Yeah, I do. I feel how I feel.
I mean, what am I supposed to do?

Speaker 1 Detective press loved all of this.

Speaker 1 Listen,

Speaker 1 I've become an expert in detective movies lately. And my expert self says it's a setup.
And so Doreet's like, well, it's based on nothing. Well, I don't want to talk about your finances.

Speaker 1 It's just my instincts. And also, it's not based on nothing, Dari.
You have a very, very long history with your husband of shady dealing and grifting and not paying people.

Speaker 1 And then break-ins and robberies and all this shit seems to always be happening to you. And then even last year, you had that mysterious $10,000 that went missing from your purse and a Target.

Speaker 1 No, a Home Depot. No, a HomeGoods.
No, a Marshalls.

Speaker 1 Come on. It's not based on nothing.

Speaker 1 It's based on your history durie and it's not only four people on twitter who doubted your story a lot of people still to this day doubt all of your stories because you're full of shit and so is your husband so that's what it's based on ma'am well i mean here i mean look she is getting activated because She is interpreting this as you are doubting my trauma.

Speaker 1 And I don't think anyone doubts the trauma. I think we all believe that she went through a horrific, horrific thing.
But I think we all think that there's there is a chance

Speaker 1 that like she was not aware that this was a setup in some way. Like this was something that there was a lot fishy that went on there.
And it's

Speaker 1 really gauche to say that she, she did that because it was traumatic if it happened. So it is gauche to say it.

Speaker 1 But people who follow this show and follow the news off of this show would think that it's fishy. It's not the first time they've been robbed.

Speaker 1 It's not, I mean, it's not crazy to think that this is fishy. Now, to say it, I I think takes extreme balls.

Speaker 1 Cause even me, and listen, I love getting deep into this stuff and thinking like, that's not true. That never happened.
I love a good conspiracy.

Speaker 1 Even I was like, I'm not going to go there, even though, of course, I think it's fishy. Of course it is just because of who they are.
But I'm still not ready to say it's a lie.

Speaker 1 I don't know that it's a lie.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it's a lie either. So I'm not going to set it up.

Speaker 1 I think fishy is a fish. But it's fish day.
Yeah. Fishy is fishy.
I think we settle. I think we feel good about it.
I think the word of the day is fishy.

Speaker 1 We have decided we're going to, we're going land in a place of fishiness and in terms of trauma you got to just give it to the person it doesn't like it's not a big enough hill to die on for me right

Speaker 1 did that happen and and you say no it didn't happen that's crazy if that did actually happen to somebody so even i won't say that so i actually kind of maybe respect the balls that garcel is just like sorry maybe garcel should have maybe garcel should have just said i think it's fishy not like it was a setup but i think it's fishy um

Speaker 1 but uh doreit is like very upset about this. Maybe she's doth protesting, protesting too much.
Who knows?

Speaker 1 And don't get me wrong, but I'm glad Garcelle said something and I'm glad how she's standing up for herself.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, if you're going to say it, be prepared because you're going to get a lot of blowback. Right.

Speaker 1 And again, this is a cast that like is very fragile because on Salt Lake City or Potomac or Atlanta or even New Jersey, this is like child's play.

Speaker 1 It's child's play to say, I think that this break-in was a setup. Like that, that's like nothing to those casts.
But here they're like, oh, how could you say it? Set on Married to Medicine.

Speaker 1 One cast member actually accused another of robbing her home, of setting up people to rob her home. Anila did.
Yes. Tatoya.
Yes. Yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 So, Dorit's like, you can say it so casually, not considering once how it might make me, my husband, our family, our deluxe pack of Pringles feel about this garcel. That's absolutely

Speaker 1 inconceivable. Do you know how the minority help felt about it? Absolutely disgusting of you.
And Garcel's like, well, I'm sorry it hurts you. It's how I feel.
And Boz just goes, wow, wow.

Speaker 1 I like Garcel's like, well, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. It's kind of like, well, you can't argue with that.
She's like,

Speaker 1 I'm... I think I'm sorry.
But if I'm wrong, that's my opinion.

Speaker 1 And so Andy's like, so you think it's because the guys gave back the cell phone? And she goes, well, yeah. And it was also because I don't put the alarm on at night because the kids run around.

Speaker 1 I mean, most people's alarm, you can put the alarm on and be in the home. Oh, you think my husband would orchestrate? Have you seen him? He hired Berlin.

Speaker 1 And Garcel's like, well, I did say you were your husband. Don't put that in my mouth.
Well, you intimated. Well, I did not.
I did not. I mean, you did.

Speaker 1 Of course. Who else orchestrated it? I mean, I think the orchestration, the hint that was that it was Piquet who did it was the theory.

Speaker 1 She did never technically say it.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I agree.

Speaker 1 And Garcelle's like, no, I said that I don't think Dorit knew anything about it. And we do see a flashback of her saying, I don't think Dorit knew anything about it, but something is going on there.

Speaker 1 And Garcelle's like, you know what? I'm done talking about it. This is how I feel.
And this is how I feel. And Dore's like, well, I'm going to at least tell you how I feel.

Speaker 1 And she goes, well, I know how you feel because you never shut up.

Speaker 1 Listen, my husband must be a sociopath and not give a shit about his family whatsoever, that he would send men into our home at night with my children sleeping in the house, and he would put me through that trauma.

Speaker 1 I mean, the only person who would ever do such a thing would have to be such a severe alcoholic to be so in a not proper place of thinking to do such a thing.

Speaker 1 And if there's one thing that we know about PK,

Speaker 1 I can't talk about it, unfortunately. So next question.

Speaker 1 And for Darreed to say, oh, he must be a sociopath and not give a shit about his family whatsoever.

Speaker 1 Well, didn't you say that PK never sees the kids? He never calls the kids.

Speaker 1 When you were at your your lowest point going through trauma he didn't care he ignored you he wanted you to shut up we saw him on camera say it's more it's more it's not even trauma it's just being annoying or whatever he said on camera so you've spent a lot of time telling us and pk has taken a lot of time showing us that he doesn't give a fuck so yeah i don't know what argument you're trying to say but you've been arguing against yourself for the entire season painting him as a piece of shit who doesn't care about his children or you so

Speaker 1 so gross was like, Was I the only one who felt that way? He says, Well, you tell me who has four other people from Twitter. And

Speaker 1 Garcelle's like, Okay, fine. Even though it was like more than four people for sure.
Sure, it was a lot more than four people.

Speaker 1 So, Bose is like, Well, that's a difficult thing to say without any proof at all. So, that has enormous repercussions and it's dangerous to say, really, really terrible.
She's like, Okay, I apologize.

Speaker 1 Nothing zero, I mean zero. And he's like, All right, okay.
So, I wasn't gonna ask where you you stand today, but a few steps forward and a few brinkle cans back. I'm all right.

Speaker 1 So they all get up to go to their dressing rooms and Garcell's like, can I just go home to Oxnard?

Speaker 1 And so then they all go into their dressing rooms and Sutton is like, well, everybody hates me. Like everybody, I think I'm going to start to cry.

Speaker 1 And Kyle's like, oh, we haven't even started on you yet. Yeah, you're fine.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You have a long reunion ahead of you, ma'am. So Garcell is upset and Sudden comes to check on her.
And she's like, look, I'm damned if I do. I'm damned if I don't.

Speaker 1 I can say how I, I can't say how I feel. I can't say how I, you know, think.
I have to tiptoe and I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it.

Speaker 1 Now, look, I agree that this was not great for you, but for, this is kind of the first time Garcelle's really taken heat. in a reunion.

Speaker 1 And at this point, I don't know what happens the rest of the reunion, right? But at this point, I'm like, buck up because you're a real housewife.

Speaker 1 And if you're going to go say that you think someone's robbery was bullshit, you have to be prepared for this. You can't be like, oh, I can't believe it.
You know, come on now. Like, stick with it.

Speaker 1 We're rooting for you. This is kind of a Vanderpump moment where I'm like, I'm rooting for you.
Do not, do not go down. I'm rooting for you.
So

Speaker 1 part of me is like, buck up, get back in the ring and let's go.

Speaker 1 I know. They needed someone really tenacious, you know? Um, so I'm about to sneeze.
I'm about to sneeze. So you talk.

Speaker 1 So now we go to Bose and Dorit talking and they're talking about Garcelle, obviously. And she's like, oh, this Garcel situation.
I mean, this is not casual. We're talking about a crime.

Speaker 1 Welcome to the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, babe. I mean, welcome to Real Housewives in general.

Speaker 1 This is not unheard of here.

Speaker 1 And she's like, you can't say those things without repercussions, which I get. And then Garcel is going like, I'm the bad guy.
Sentin goes, oh, don't worry. We're the bad guy.
We're the bad guys.

Speaker 1 Well, we're the mean girls, apparently.

Speaker 1 Oh, we didn't even tell, I think we somehow missed the fact that during when Kyle was getting mad at Garcel, Kyle had the balls to say, you guys, you and Sutton are mean girls.

Speaker 1 I could not believe my ears. That was actually the most inflammatory thing I felt like was the entire episode.

Speaker 1 Because I think Kyle has been waiting to shed that reputation and to push it on onto someone else. Because that's the most offensive thing anyone has ever said to Kyle is calling her a mean girl.

Speaker 1 She's never been able to let it go. And now she's trying to put it on somebody else.
No, Kyle, you're still the mean girl. You still mean girl.
She was trying to change that narrative up.

Speaker 1 And when she tried to do that to Garcel and Sutton, is Sutton mean? Yes. Is Garcelle, can Garcelle be mean? Yes.
Are they mean girls? No. You guys are the mean girls.

Speaker 1 And so when she tried to do that, I can't believe we missed that. I think we were in a frenzy because that was like definitely peak frenziness for us.

Speaker 1 But when she said that, I was like, you have to be fucking kidding me.

Speaker 1 That actually bothered me more than Erica saying that Garcell was not interesting because like, you know, there is a, there is some truth in Erica saying it, just we don't feel like Erica should be the one to say it.

Speaker 1 And also, we don't feel like that should be something that Garcelle should be prosecuted over. However, Kyle calling sudden and Garcell mean girls, that was wildly offensive to me.

Speaker 1 So Garcel's like, well, I'm not taking that on. You can say anything you want, but I'm not taking it because I know who I am.
And when she said, be more interesting, oh, fuck you, Erica. Fuck you.

Speaker 1 Because I'm not going through a divorce. Because I didn't have criminal activity.
That I work? That I'm self-made? That I don't have a rich husband?

Speaker 1 That I wasn't born with the silver spoon in my mouth. Yeah, that's what you need to say out there.
Yeah, say that on the stage. You don't need to say that in here.

Speaker 1 You need to say that right to their faces because fuck those ladies for saying that shit to you. And you're absolutely right in this defense.
And this is what you need on the stage, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is when it's time for her to shoot the moon.

Speaker 1 She doesn't have a rich husband either. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Fuck her. Fuck her.

Speaker 1 But yeah, shoot the moon on the stage.

Speaker 1 And as long as you're going down the path, as long as you're doing, you're going to take the role of I'm going to the and now we've said it role of like, I'm going to say the thing.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say the thing that I think it might be a setup. I'm going to say like, what about Morgan Wade? We're all like, everyone knows about it, but we're not talking about it.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say, as long as you're going to do that, then go all the way and bring this energy all the way there. And like, don't worry about how it might make you look.

Speaker 1 Don't worry about it being rude.

Speaker 1 Cause at this point, you've already sort of gone down that path and just confront everyone with the things that they don't want to be confronted with because the audience has your back.

Speaker 1 And I think that there's other things going on here because we, you know, this is the first black woman to ever be on Beverly Hills.

Speaker 1 And there is a certain, you know, there have been storylines where it's like she says one thing, you know, and there's microbes. It's an attack.
It's thrown at her. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Right. It's an attack or whatever else.

Speaker 1 And so she's probably not wanting to go too low because she's like, if I don't keep my composure, the the next thing they're going to call me is angry or whatever else they're going to throw at me, you know, like they've done before.

Speaker 1 So she's, you know, I can see that there's kind of a line that she's walking. So I want to acknowledge that that's there too.

Speaker 1 And I guess that would be hard because as a fan, you just want to see her go for it. And you're like, no, fuck you.
You're, you're a fucking criminal and your husband's a fucking criminal.

Speaker 1 And you, when you, Erica, and when you were confronted with what happened to the victims, you said, I don't give a fuck about anybody but myself. Does that make you more interesting?

Speaker 1 Does it make you more interesting that you're trying to hold on to diamond earrings, like you petty ass, that were bought with stolen money that you know was stolen?

Speaker 1 And that when we said that there are victims and you said, well, we don't know that there are victims, like fuck you. Does that make you interesting? You fucking crook? Lori, you're fucking.

Speaker 1 But, you know, for her to actually go there, you know, that's a bigger choice in her mind because there's repercussions of the ladies and how they're going to treat her and label her after that.

Speaker 1 So I get how she's probably feeling feeling frustrated and, you know, like, you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't.

Speaker 1 But as a friend, you know, as a, as a friend, as a good friend to Garcel, as a fan, I really want to see her just let these witches have it because Erica, especially, Erica, especially.

Speaker 1 How dare you, ma'am? Oh my God. Yeah.
That would be really sensational. Anyway, that's it.
That was the end of the episode.

Speaker 1 So this is a good reunion so far, by the way, I would like to say it's been really good. And we have more to come next week.
So thank you all for being here. We will catch you on the next episode.

Speaker 1 And yeah, bye, everyone. Bye.

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