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I'm Ronnie, and that's Ben over there.

Hello, Ben.

Hello.

Hello.

I'm sitting in a new place today because I was having technical issues in my normal play.

So I'm recording from far away.

Ben is in the lie detector room for this very special episode of Watch What Crappens.

I am very much in the lie detector room.

I'm so excited to podcast today, Ronnie.

We were privileged as Bravo viewers to have, I thought, two.

Two like amazing episodes last night.

Now,

I went onto Twitter yesterday.

I was so excited after I watched it.

We watched the screeners and I was like, I can't say anything about the episode because screener embargoes up.

I said, it's going to be a great night of programming.

And I got a few people who were like, you're wrong.

You were wrong.

Cause people were very angry at the OC episode.

And I'm not saying

that you shouldn't be because it was an infuriating episode.

But you have to admit, like, I spent this episode like cringing the entire time.

I was like, oh my God, I was covering my eyes.

I texted you.

I was like, I can't deal.

I was stressed out afterwards.

To me, that's the mark of a great episode.

If you are like feeling it, if it's in you and you're like, afterwards, like, oh my God, what do I do?

What do I say?

What do I say to anyone?

You know, that's a great episode.

And then on top of that, let's not discount Miami's contributions the evening, which we'll obviously talk about on our Miami episode.

Well, I just don't understand why you watch Orange County if you don't think you're going to get upset.

That's what Orange County is.

It's like reading your tax forms on a good day.

Like, why would you do that?

Like, you know, you're going to get mad.

Okay.

It's, of of course, it's infuriating, stupid Emily.

You know, and Emily finally did what I've wanted to do all these years, which was egg her fucking house.

I'm glad she did that for me because what a dick that lady is.

You know, all of them, really.

This, this whole cast, what a bunch of dicks.

I mean, if you're this cast is so bad that they have me rooting for the compulsive liar.

I'm like, wow, Katie's great.

I want to give Katie a parade at this point.

I know this is to me very reminiscent of the Lucy Lucy Apple juicy season where they just went relentlessly at Atlisa.

Was that the season of the polygraph also, by the way?

I think it actually was.

That was the polygraph season, and it was the same, I think, the same Stephen Sondheim polygraph guy who does polygraphs over people's coats.

So I'm not really sure why anybody's even taking this seriously.

Leather.

Heather was dressed in full head-to-toe leather, jacket, shirt, pants, and they did it over the...

So I don't know what we're supposed to be believing here but i'm not believing these lie detectors for two seconds and no lie detector lady is going to be like oh she's so full of as she leaves the house what kind of professionals are you i want to leave you both yelp reviews terrible lie detectors okay yeah terrible lie detectors also i think that polygraph administrator may also um host traders uk when she's not doing lie detectors i'm pretty sure it's the same person oh she wishes she wishes she had that crow-like crow-like elegance.

I know.

Claudia.

But the thing is, I mean, there's part of me that kind of feels like the polygraph thing is sort of like a jump the shark thing.

Like, like, we, they should not be doing group polygraphs on these shows.

It was very entertaining to watch.

And it was, it was like, ooh, it was so cringy.

It was compelling TV, but they really shouldn't be doing that.

Like, that's bad.

But also, the reason why this reminds me of Lucy Lucy Applejuicy.

is that or apple juice is that they ran lisa vanderpump off that show

based off of some stupid shit that they all do and so here you know when there have been so many worse like crimes and misdemeanors that have been literally made by this cast they yeah i mean it just seems like this lie is is it really worth ganging up on someone and just like running them out of the house you know it just

It was cruel.

And I'm still on Katie's side.

She is messy as fuck.

She's a bad liar, but you can't tell me that they're all you know they all lie they're all liars yeah by this polygraph test and the other thing that drives me nuts is each one of them i think there was only one person who had like like did not lie at all i forget who it was we'll come to it but like almost all the had big time was it gretchen almost all of them had big time lies and every time it said they lied they'd be like oh well i mean it was wrong it was wrong it was wrong so they're obviously they have the capability to look at a polygraph and say well this is a flawed uh process where there can be errors.

And yet when it comes to Katie, they're like, well, no, I mean, this is absolutely all true.

No errors here.

Like, it's just so hypocritical.

Yeah, they're a bunch of assholes on this show, seriously.

And Gretchen got a passing score on everything.

She got everything right, or not right, but non-lie.

She told the truth on everything supposedly, but we caught her in a lie during the lie detector test.

So,

like, a known fucking liar, Gretchen walking around crying in her John Bonet Fox Ramsey outfit.

Like, what the fuck?

Like, like, you people are full of shit.

And those lie detectors are terrible.

And Heather lying her ass off, Tamara constantly lying.

I love that Tamra's so fucking good at it that she's just like, she knows how to answer the questions where she can lie openly, you know, like the one where they said, where they said, did you call Slade's ex or whatever to get information on Slade?

And she's like, oh, well, maybe, maybe I didn't.

And they showed the reunion clip where she did fucking lie.

So

these people, these people are ridiculous.

But before we get into what lies and monsters, oh, and Gina's getting away with everything because Gina's just so funny and relatable this year.

Fuck Gina too.

Gina's fucking horrible, too.

I can't with you people.

And Gina going, thank you so much for being a reputable journalist.

Like she's at Barbara Walters' funeral.

Shut up, Gina.

Yeah.

Okay.

Barbara Walters passed, right?

She did.

Yeah.

Okay.

Not that that makes me happy, except that I was right that she passed.

Because, I mean, I've been calling a lot of people dead this year so uh sorry tim curry still sorry i'm still sorry um so anyway welcome to the show uh monday night is amazon live well monday afternoon 4 30 p.m pacific no 4 p.m pacific time you'll find the link monday over on our instagram you can follow us both personally that would be fun i'm ronny caramp that's been mandelker and also if you want this on video it's on demand over at patreon that's also where our bonus episodes are we did three hours of bonus content this week on the love island reunion which is ridiculous but we did it and next week it looks like we're going to have some uh real housewives of potomac and or

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Here we go.

This is season 19, episode 8.

I can't believe it's only episode 8, by the way.

Oh my God.

It seems like episode 37.

That's a lot's going on on this show.

Yeah.

Yeah.

A lot is going on.

I mean, I think it's a great season, but I think we all know.

I think this should probably be Emily and Gina's last season.

I'm just going to say that right now.

Like, because people are already starting to flag the season as getting a little toxic.

And by a little, I mean a lot.

And I don't want like big wholesale changes, but I think that like maybe Emily or Gina, at the very least, one of them, like, I think they should really be on the chopping block because especially, I think Emily has been the one who's been the most toxic this season personally.

I think that like Tamara's always like base level toxic.

That's what she's there for.

But Emily's been really kind of, I think she's been nasty and cruel.

And Katie may be a liar, but there's something

vindictive and unpleasant about Emily that makes me feel like she should probably get a timeout from this show.

I mean, what you won't.

But but I do love that she's dressed like she's in the cast of glow in her confessionals.

I like that she's coming off being so mean when she's like female wrestling it up over there in her, in her tiny headed confession, her shrunken headed confessional.

Um, yeah, she's an asshole.

She won't get kicked off.

I don't, I don't think anyone's going to get kicked off personally, except maybe Katie, but um maybe Gretchen.

I mean, who knows?

Who knows what they're going to do?

But this show doesn't care.

They like the bottom of the barrel.

It's OC.

It's OC.

Let's celebrate.

Let's celebrate.

celebrate what we have but yeah she's a monster and i love that all of this started with uh katie's daughter saying that emily's kids mentioned that emily talks heather when she's alone at home that's probably the most believable thing that katie has said in all of this in all of the lie accusations i believe that one the most i mean i don't know what mother doesn't talk about their friends in front of their kids i mean what are you going to do lock your kids in their crate you know you can't do that 24 hours a day and you're going to be talking about your friends 24 hours a day what else are you supposed to do when you're raising the kids i don't have kids and i do it all day long myself

even when you don't think the kids are there like we kids we listen in like

All right, so let's go pretend Heather and Terry have a healthy sex life.

Okay, we're at Heather and Terry's LA penthouse.

Girl, anybody who has sex with Heather is going to start a forest fire because those legs rubbing together, it's either going to be the sound of crickets or something's going to start on fire.

She has

Jack Christmas.

She'd look like Jack Christmas in that leather outfit this week.

Now, that said, I would kill for that thigh gap.

I noticed the thigh gap too.

I never really noticed thigh gap, but I was like, wow, Heather's thigh gap is really kind of out of control right now.

Like it's, she's thigh gapping.

So we see Heather and Terry.

They're at their LA penthouse.

And yeah, like you said, they're pretending to be like fun, sexy time people.

And Terry's like, well, at what point will we not need humans anymore?

I mean, we just have chat GPT.

And she's like, are you going to have sex with a robot?

It's like, the answer is clearly yes.

Terry, if there's anyone I would think of who someone who might have sex with a robot, it would definitely be Terry Dubrow.

Wow, look at this.

This is pretty cool.

I mean, he basically makes robots.

Pretty much.

He makes flush bots.

And if anyone's who are you calling a robot, Heather?

Heather's pretty close.

I mean, Heather's like that personal assistant that just does nothing, like that AI personal assistant that just talks down to you.

Hey, can I have directions how to get to Javier's?

Well,

if you want to go somewhere so low class and overrated, I will tell you how to get there.

It's like, thanks, Heather.

Don't need your help anymore.

If you ever turn off my assistance again, it will cost you a lot.

I'm just assuming that you're going to take your family of miscreants to a golden corral.

So I've loaded it into your maps.

Heather, I'm feeling like going to a nice two-star Michelin restaurant tonight to celebrate something.

Okay.

Well, in your case, assessing your portfolio, you were not wealthy enough to go.

So, here are the directions to the nearest McDonald's.

Enjoy.

The closest I will take Gina to a Michelin is a tire shop since she's already covered in tread marks.

So, we go to Jen's Jen's house where she's chatting with her kids.

Like, life is just so great.

She's like, oh my God, do you have any advice for your brother?

Blah, blah, blah.

Yeah.

How about don't fucking sign hundreds of thousands of dollars in loans because you're a child?

How about that, Jen?

How about maybe like helping your children?

I'm still mad at Jen about this loan thing for her kid.

Yeah, that's mad.

The call gotten swept under the rug.

Then we see Gretchen and Slade at home having fun.

And Slade is, he's removing a chandelier.

And there's like some wiring and, you know, Gretchen's overseeing.

And Slade is like, you turned the power off.

And then he like, he's talking about like, oh, you have to disconnect the wires.

And then he's like, oh,

just kidding, everyone.

I did not get electrocuted.

At which point, all of America sighed.

Like,

we groaned.

I know, I've never rooted so hard for a bathtub.

It's like, you can do this.

Let's get some final destination shit.

Like,

the kid throws a ball.

The ball hits the water.

The water turns on.

Okay.

So

is there a chandelier above the bathtub anyway?

How about that?

I don't know.

Are there chandeliers above bathtubs?

I mean, I'm sure you can do it.

But of course, Gretchen and Slade would move to a house where there's a chandelier above a bathtub.

They're not in some gothic mansion.

They're just in like a two-story home in Orange County.

And the fact that they have a chandelier in the bathtub, like over the bathtub, gets funnier and funnier the more you actually think about it.

Well, she's had that place forever.

Isn't that the same place she's had?

Yeah.

Well, she's also had Slade forever.

So it it just goes to show sometimes it's time to do some renovations and get things out of there sometimes you just got to rewire some okay let's go to javier's shannon comes in with big dick daddy from cincinnati her father gene who's now 96

his 96th birthday today

being a perv really pays off

with old age lots of butt grabbing just grab because you know he's like the kind who like grabs a flight attendant's butt you just or pats it at least and it's like hey, honey Love the flight keeps you young guys It really does because he looks great.

He seems very Sharp and with it like you would never think he's 96 years old.

I would think he's like

82

So he looks I mean he is definitely with it so gene the machine good for you.

So Shannon has brought Gene for

a little birthday celebration and Shannon's like well um so dad I have to tell you this yeah young very attractive girl came up to me and said, this man came up to me and he said, please don't go.

I'll take care of you.

And his name was Gene the Machine.

And that was you, Dad.

You were the one who said this to the young woman and almost caused me to have a heart attack because every time a young woman comes up to me, I'm thinking, it's just a slut who was walking with David on Newport Beach.

He's like, yeah.

Hey, I'll take a margarita.

I'm not driving today.

Is that a dig?

Was that a dig?

So

he's like, oh, it's probably just a joke.

You know that, honey.

I'm just like, oh, it's what keeps him young.

He's always laughing and all,

all the more power to him.

So they cheers and he talks about dating.

It's been a while.

And she's like, well, Tad, I don't want to date anyone right now.

I just, I just, I'm so happy being single.

I just love

being single.

Look at me pulling out my credit card ready to pay for a dinner for a father who's probably just going to be giving his attention to some other blonde woman from the beach anyway.

I have to say,

I just don't want to date anyone right now, which is funny because I just...

I literally just had a little vacation where I went to a hotel filled with eligible bachelors for two weeks and still came out with basically no one.

So I'm just feeling great about myself.

There was one very nosy concierge who had some boundary issues, didn't appreciate that either.

And apparently, you have to understand flight paths of hurricanes to get a good man these days.

I'm just, I don't know about dating anymore, Dad.

Don't know.

You know me.

I'm just so old-fashioned.

I don't want to be the pursuer.

I don't want to have to watch other people's homes get blown away in a hurricane when I could be dancing on a bar.

No, I'm afraid of having my heart hurt.

So I'm proceeding with caution very slowly dad very slow now if only you could start driving like that the houses around here might be safe oh what's that a dig

that's i'm gonna pretend like i love that and smile loudly and look over at my shoulder a little bit

dan dad

Oh dear.

So,

you know, what every dad wants to hear on his 97th birthday, their kids' girl gossip.

So she's like, well, dad, you know, I don't know if I told you this, but when I was in New Orleans, Tamara, who was not kind to me last year, as you recall, she did not even support me when I drank too much and almost killed people driving into a house.

But,

you know, she was, she apologized to me, which I did appreciate.

But I just, I said,

I cannot jump back into a relationship like that.

I mean, she just, she kicked me when I was down.

She kicked me when I was, well, I think I was down.

Maybe I was up.

I don't know.

I might have been on a guy.

I blocked out.

I blacked out.

I was walking Archie.

That's what I remember.

She kicked me while I was innocently walking Archie.

But I had passed out on the sidewalk too.

So I was quite literally down, but I was also walking Archie.

I was doing a lot of things all at once.

Dad, I'm a multitasker now.

Speaking of being down, there's only an inch left in this martini.

Can we get on it, Alfredo?

No, it'd be great.

I'm more protective of my heart today based on past relationships.

And then we see flashbacks of like the awful men in Shannon's life with Shannon being like, I mean, with David being like, Shannon,

I just want to be happy.

I just want to look, wake up in the morning, and see the woman in my bed and actually enjoy seeing her face and enjoy talking to her.

And she's like,

Thanks, David.

Thank you so much for saying that on national TV, David.

And by the way, David, how's that working out for you?

Yes,

Heather DeBreaux is just laughing somewhere.

She's like, that was comedy.

I learned that at the Groundlings.

Which is what initially, the Groundlings is great.

I went there initially because I thought that's where you could find a maid, but it turns out it's a comedy program.

I went to see the Groundlings because I was trying to find real estate for Gina.

I thought that's where the landscapers were at the the groundlings.

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So now a Marilyn Monroe impersonator comes in.

Okay, why can we not find a Marilyn Monroe impersonator with a clean dress?

Why do they all look like they've just been hanging out in pollution?

Why?

Because they have been probably.

But poor Marilyn Monroe on Hollywood Boulevard looks like she has just rolled around on the boulevard for years.

Are there no honestly?

Didn't Marilyn Monroe ever wear anything else than white?

I know.

Marilyn Monroe had had a lot of different looks.

Could you imagine if Marilyn Monroe hated that stupid white dress?

And she's like up there in heaven being like,

I mean, I had so many looks.

This is the one they decided to go with this, this one?

Yeah, because that's the one that blew up her dress.

You know, she was like,

um,

so Marilyn Monroe impersonator.

Okay, so she comes.

She's like, hello, hey, this is a birthday, Mr.

Gene the Machine.

Hold on, I've been asked to do Marilyn Monroe, but I also act like your daughter.

Happy birthday to you.

That's a little creepy, Marilyn.

Okay, it's

Shannon's like laughing.

I'm so happy.

This is such a funny, this is such a funny, funny guy.

I can't help but notice how all the men are looking at this Marilyn Monroe impersonated.

Okay, men, you can stop looking.

Okay, she's not available.

She's not.

Okay, you know what?

Get the slut out of here.

Get the slut out of here right now.

Here we are.

Here I am with another man hint who's just being taken over by some other blonde slut by a beach.

I did it to myself.

I did it to myself.

So this is, by the way, I want to say that this is a very important, it was very,

not important, but.

I appreciated this episode because it gave us some of Orange County's greatest hits because we just had a scene at Javier's, which is a hot spot on Real House of Orange County.

We did not get Quiet Woman this episode, but we did get, I think, an emerging star on the Orange County, in the Orange County landscape, which is, I think, a new favorite of mine, Mozambique.

This is the second time they've gone to Mozambique this season.

Obviously, the first time was when they went and the parrot saw Tamara and was like, bitch,

bitch, or whatever it was, said to her.

What did they parrot?

Remember the parrot like shaded Tamara when she walked in?

And the parrot's like, Yep, I did it guilty.

I do it again.

I do it again.

It's Shannon.

It's the Shannon parrot.

Just shaman.

I'll do it.

Polly wants a cracker.

I bet she does.

This restaurant, I'm sorry, Mozambique.

This is like the funniest thing.

I feel like we, as Bravo viewers, need to take like, we need to like really appreciate Mozambique more because this like African safari themed restaurant in Laguna Beach and that has like parrots that they go to many times like they've gone to Mozambique several times over the years and I looked it up on Google Images of course and it just is such a funny facility they've got like you know rooftop dining but there's like a lounge downstairs with this like sad sofa and then they have like a place where like a band plays and you know all the you know all the all the the shannons and the and the john jansons and such go there and dance while they play journey like i just think it's the funniest venue and i think we need to pay more attention to mozambique i think we should enter it into the canon so we have so we're here at mozambique restaurant this is the big

this is the big moment that we've all been waiting for the kiki monique confrontation so gretchen and gina show up two people who you would expect the most to find in a place called mozambique gina and gretchen

And Gina's like, I'm happy, Gretchen, that you reached out because like, I'm happy to be here for you.

Cause like, I know this is like kind of a lot.

And I, like, I want to get to the bottom of it.

Like, honestly.

And Gretchen's like, yeah, like, like, where I'm like, like, the most upset is like, why are you taking any conversation?

Like, talking to a reporter?

Because you all literally do that.

That is the Orange County real slash Real Housewives playbook.

You guys all talk to all the reporters.

And just that, like, when someone messes up, because usually there's someone who's too clunky, you all pounce and make them the sacrificial lambs.

It makes you guys all seem better, but you guys are all talking to all the

reporters and bloggers.

Yeah, I mean, look, I'm going to stand up for Katie a lot in this episode, but she was shitty for this, I think.

She was shitty for going straight to a reporter and telling her shit.

She just was.

I mean, you shouldn't do that.

None of them should do it.

They do all do it.

But I think calling out Katie is okay on this.

But I think that Gretchen's still lying and she did say that stuff to Katie.

I do.

She really

did.

Yeah.

She most percent did and they're all dying on this hill that's so stupid yeah so she's like um i'm just feeling beyond betraying like i uh i thought i was in a safe space with people that i trusted and i loved

who why would you trust them and love them you knew them because of instagram because you were your thirsty ass was trying to get back on this show those are not friends that you trust and you love those were housewives cast members are you nuts have you learned nothing i think you're an idiot know the first rule of housewife housewifery housewifery, which is anything you say and do can and will be used against you in the court of reality TV?

But what I don't understand, I mean, Gretchen is a dummy, right?

We know that.

But why would you bring this up in front of a bunch of housewives if you didn't want it to go anywhere?

Because normally when you bring stuff up like this, you want it to go somewhere.

That's why you're dropping the seeds in the first place.

Do you think that she actually said it or do you think Slade said it?

At the party?

Because they're kind of insinuating it was Slade who said it because Katie told her husband, don't you, weren't you there when Slade said it?

And he said, yeah, I heard it.

I actually have a more naive take.

Like, I'm actually a little bit less cynical on this in the sense that like, I think Gretchen brought it up just because they were gossiping about Tamara.

And she probably did not think it was really going to go anywhere because it was such old news.

She probably thought it was just like.

They're just probably kikiing.

I mean, because it was like so many years.

Who would ever think to even like

make this a thing again?

um so i am gonna go with i'm gonna say gretchman used poor judgment which is

you know i i don't think that gretchen was was thinking that far ahead with yeah

okay

so um she's so betrayed you guys she cannot believe that she sat down with cast on the real housewives and they repeated something

so she's like yeah sharing something very personal appearing with a journalist is not okay in any way shape or form.

Why does she say all of her as are is

in meaning?

What?

So, Gretchen, you know what I mean?

Her pronunciation.

Say it again.

Her sounds like it's not okay in any way, right?

So, she says, it's not okay in any way.

She makes them with an I.

So funny to me that she does it.

So, she's like, my home is Katie will be exonerated in this.

And so, Kiki Monique arrives.

She arrives in such a funny way.

She just comes and she's already kind of like slightly shaking her head and smiling like,

hi, you made me drive two hours for this.

I was about to say,

she had the look of someone who just drove from like

Hollywood to Laguna Beach.

And if you've never done that drive midday, look at Kiki's face.

She's like, oh my God, the traffic, the traffic, the random toll.

Why is is there a toll road going to Laguna Beach?

There's a toll road for some reason.

Why does everyone here have those Oakley glasses on?

Like, it's traumatizing.

Honestly, that is a traumatizing drive.

And you can just see by Kiki, she's like, oh, man, I've been on that road for six hours.

Yeah.

So Gretchen's like,

I'm Gretchen.

And she's like, yeah, we've met.

And she goes, what?

When did we meet?

She goes, oh, well, I mean, well, we were on the phone at shenanigans.

I mean, who hasn't said that?

I feel like we've all said that at some point.

Oh, hey, we met on the phone at shenanigans.

Good to see you.

She's like, is that a fast casual restaurant?

No, no.

Is it a neighborhood bar and grill?

No, it's Sheena's podcast.

Oh, okay.

Well, somebody

meets me.

Sheena Anigans.

Maybe Ronnie, someday we can remeet Gretchen and we can do the same thing, except our version will be like, we actually met.

The four of us did a psychic reading together at Leah Black House.

Yes.

And that psychic told her she was going to have a child.

And she's like, no, she looked grossed out.

She was like, no, I'm never going to have a child.

Slade can't do it.

And I just, no, it's too late.

And he's like, no, you're going to have a child.

She's like, no, I'm not.

And there she is, standing on a countertop with her fingers slightly crossed that her dad might slip into the bathtub and electrocute himself on a chandelier.

He didn't say that part, but I'm sure he thought it.

Yeah.

I'm sure that was probably the unedited version.

So, um, so yes, they say hi to Kiki and everything.

Kiki's like, yeah, we met already.

Um, and I like that Kiki was subtly calling her out, which is just that's funny to me.

Um, so then Gretchen's like, I decided to call Kiki because the best way for me to move forward with Katie and with the group is and to figure out everything is like is to figure out everything out and to know the truth.

And I wanted a witness, I wanted a witness here because I didn't want it to be like another key situation.

So I've got Gina.

Hi, I'm Gina, the witness.

Oh my God, Kiki, I'm so sorry your name is even getting tossed around in all of this.

She's like, yeah, I never would have done this otherwise if it wasn't for that.

Normally, I only drive to Orange County for lunch with

Katie.

But, you know, I've spent so many years building up my reputation in this hard-hitting industry of hard journalism.

I started in the Iraq war.

It was rough.

I was in a bunker for a very long time under Saddam Hussein's house trying to get Hayu to work.

And I just appreciate you giving me the fact.

I was asking the soldiers, were they watching Haypala on Bravo?

And actually, several of them were.

I remember asking Saddam Hussein.

I remember asking Saddam Hussein right before he was captured in that little hole he was hiding in in his BVDs.

I said, Saddam, do you ever feel like you're not being treated like the gift that you are?

And Saddam said, hold on.

I need to see what Rachel and Raj are doing.

And I said, what are you talking about?

He said, the Oscars are coming up and they, and Rachel has to style Jennifer Gardner.

And five minutes later, he was captured.

It's been bananas, guys.

Bah.

Nanas.

I do like an alternate timeline where Saddam somehow got captured because he got distracted watching the Rachel Zoe products.

And Apollo.

I am sick of not being treated like the gift that I am.

So Gretson's like, well, unfortunately, what happened for me is I was sideswiped with all of this information when I was out in Louisiana.

And I sat down with Katie and I was like, you would never.

And she said, no, I've never spoken to Kiki about you.

I have no idea what they're talking about.

And Kiki's like, well,

I'm about to say, like, Katie, this is where you have to be a better liar.

You have to, like, follow the timer school of giving like some shreds of truth.

Because, like, when you say, like, you could have just said, I didn't bring up like the drugging, or like, say, I didn't bring up.

I never said, you have to say, I never said the word roofie.

That's what you say.

But, like, by saying, I didn't even talk to Kiki about you.

Now you're really setting yourself yourself up for failure.

Cause you, I mean, like,

like that's, that's so broad.

Like you're going to get caught in that one.

Like you got to be specific about your claims.

Yeah.

You know what?

I mean, look, and we like Kiki.

We're friends with Kiki.

Kiki was just at my home for our Watch What Crappens closing party a few weeks ago.

So we actually like Kiki.

So I don't want to like call people out or whatever, but you're on the show.

So I kind of got to you.

What happened to journalist?

Like everyone's saying journalist this, journalist that, but whatever happened to journalistic integrity?

Like if somebody's telling you that shit, why are you running to other people and telling them?

I don't think that's cool.

We should call Katie out.

Have Katie go to that.

I mean, have Kiki go to that lie detector test too.

I don't think that was very nice.

I mean, that's something you shouldn't be spreading, right?

But I love you.

Still love you.

I'm sure there's more to the story.

So Kiki's like, well, I don't really remember exactly how you came up, but she said you guys went to dinner.

And the dinner, she was like, oh my God, why is Mastros, you know, spelled like that and then she was like or why is it pronounced like that when it's maestro is it my mastros or my isn't it spelled m-a-e-s-t-r maestros it's maestros why did they misspell nicoline's name

um isn't it spelled that you're right all right i'll look it up i'll look it up i'll look it up i've got my laptop right here in front of me i can do so much it's just amazing mastros here i'm gonna look it up no it's spelled it's spelled mastros it's not spelled maestro i'm an idiot all right

I'm a poor person.

Okay.

That's a lot of people.

You know who I bet loves Mastros.

You know who I bet loves Mastros.

Sorry, I talked over you.

How much do you want to bet that Gina loves Mastros?

How much do you want to bet?

She's always walking around her house being like,

hey, Nikki, you want to go to Maastro's tonight?

Does anyone want to go to Maastros?

I was thinking that we could go to Maastros tonight.

I just feel like she always talks about Mastros off camera.

No, because Mastros is extremely expensive.

That's a very high-end

going there.

She loves it.

She only goes like once a year.

And it's like very special.

It's very exciting for her.

You know, she can call up Elizabeth Vargas, be like, you want to go to Maestro's?

Can you pay?

Well, maybe with Elizabeth Vargas because she'll pay.

So anyway, back to what Kiki said.

So she's like, well, she said that you guys went to dinner.

And at the dinner, she said, did you know that at Naked Wasted Night, Gretchen had to go to the hospital after and she was drugged?

And I was like, I mean, my jaw dropped.

And I was like, what?

She said I said that.

She said that you told her.

Well, that is literally just

insane to me.

I don't even

understand why she would say that.

She's like, well, I was trying to be more like, whoa, you know, her and Tamra haven't had a good relationship.

Why has this not come out sooner?

It's like, yeah, exactly.

If you think I knew something like that, wouldn't I have said it 17 years ago?

But here is the problem.

And so you can hear just with what Kiki said.

Kiki said that like Gretchen had to go to the hospital after, which we saw Gretchen admit to on camera.

And

well, Gretchen said that she was afraid she was drugged.

Katie says that Gretchen said that there were drugs in the system.

Obviously, now the Kiki, when Kiki's saying it, it was, and she was drugged.

What's the key thing here?

is that the word Rufi came from Tamara.

I just want to point that out.

Roofy came from Tamara.

And Rufy is the word that got everyone scared because it's a scary word to say, like, for a reason.

And I think that, like, Gretchen is afraid that this will open her up to a lawsuit, or she's afraid that Bravo won't be happy.

Whatever it is, I think Roofy is a thing that like shook the bee's nest or the hornet's nest or whatever nest needs to be shaken.

And I just want to point out, like,

Yes,

I mean, Katie, Messi,

you can't just talk to content creators and then lie about it.

You have to, if you're going to do it, just like own up to it.

Just be like, yeah, I was talking with her.

I didn't think it was any big deal.

It was so long ago.

But like,

ultimately, though, I just want, I feel like it's important to state that I do feel like it was Tamra who exaggerated this up to sort of more of a criminal space.

Well, she said that she went to the hospital and she found out she had drugs in her system.

Then that's saying that she was drugged.

So I think that Roofied is just a way way of saying drugs.

Not necessarily.

Not necessarily

have to mean rehypnol specifically.

But if you're like, well, I had to go to the hospital because I was so sick and I was tested for, like, they found drugs in my system.

That's saying somebody drugged me at Tamara's house, right?

Well, she could have had some over-the-counter medication.

That's what I'm saying.

Like, the implication is she was drugged.

I'm just saying.

Well,

she wouldn't have said they found drugs in my system if it was her own medication.

Like, she's, if Gretchen said that, because we don't know that Gretchen said that.

All we know that Gretchen really said said is that she went to the hospital because she said that on the camera, right?

We don't know if she said she was drugged.

So,

but if she did say she was drugged, she's saying they, they drugged me, basically, if she did say that.

This fucking show, I can't with it.

This show is so serious.

I feel like I can't.

And it has everybody taking everything so seriously, and they're all such fucking liars.

I can't.

So,

yeah, she's like, I went out of my way to sick up for with all these women.

No, you didn't, Gretchen.

You went and you got people.

people, you went before the season with these ladies to solidify your side that you were going to come on and battle against Tamara with is what you did.

So stop making it sound like you're some fucking giving person.

You know Florence Nightingale.

Okay.

This is what I'm trying to say.

And then Kiki and Kiki is going to be too, because then Kiki just adds, adds fuel to the fire.

Like this was not even.

anything that was being discussed.

Kiki's like, oh, and by the way, Gina, you were a topic too, which is such a rare thing in life.

I just want to add.

And

she's like, what?

And Gina's like, Gretchen's like, sorry, I meant hot topic.

So is that what you're wearing still?

Yeah.

So Kiki's like, I mean, she said she was trying to wear Asian designers to showcase them.

And then she said, you came in and you saw her outfit and you looked at her and said, is that an Asian designer?

And sort of implying, I guess, it was meant to be sounding kind of racist.

Like, I don't know.

She sort of said that part too, which

I'm like, what?

Now I was like, okay.

So then we open up this can of worms, which doesn't actually get very far.

But basically, we see this like footage from 2023 at like this biking event.

And we see Katie talking to Jen.

And Katie's like, did you hear what Gina just said about my jacket?

She asked me what brand it was.

And I told her.

And then she goes, oh, is that an Asian designer?

Because I said I wanted to wear like Asian designers.

It was a dig.

Oh my gosh.

So here we go with this.

So Jen's like, it is?

It's a dig?

Oh my God.

Thank you so much for telling me.

I never knew that was a dig.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Thank you so much, Katie.

Thank you.

Are you got information?

And Katie's like, mm-hmm.

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so then back to present, Gina's like, well, she told me that she wanted to feature Asian designers, and I thought that was cool.

And then the next thing you know, she gets these two fucking stylists, and every damn time she shows up, she's like, how?

Oh my God, look what I'm wearing, Balmain, da-da-da.

da all these fancy fucking designers that are not fucking asian okay like do you know how offensive that is to me like that is so offensive i'm just fighting for asian designers everywhere i mean look at me i show up in like white lady designers because i'm supporting white ladies okay like a tj maxunc

um marsh marshall oath like I'm

supporting white people.

She just supporting Asian.

I love that Gina's changing this to be like, I'm so upset for all the Asian designers that Katie's not supporting.

Shut the fuck up, Gina.

Are you fucking crazy?

That's crazy.

This was so wrong.

I mean, by the way, you know, this show is supposed to showcase glamorous, wealthy people, and you're not that, Gina.

So you're also failing on the representation front.

But like, this was so wrong in my mind.

It's not up to Gina to police what Katie's going to wear.

Katie makes a declaration that she wants to, you know, support more Asian designers.

She gets to do that when she wants to, like on her own timeline and what's appropriate for her.

And I don't, I just don't think that because she says that, the fact that you are like monitoring that and that like you may say you think it's cool, you want to, you like that she's celebrating the culture, but the fact that you're like already keeping tabs on that shows that you're skeptical of it in a way that I just think is actually totally inappropriate and actually problematic.

I don't see her holding

other people's feet to the fire with the random proclamations they say.

How many lofty declarations do all these women say about how they want to help?

How they want to give back?

How they want to do this and that?

Heather DeBru has releases a line of slacks for the everyday person that only cost like $30,000 a pair for the common person.

And like, do we see, like, like, is Gina following through to make sure that Heather is still being like on top of her mission there?

No, I think the fact that she had eagle eyes on Katie about this issue is speaks a lot.

And I just don't think it's Gina's place to have to police how Katie decides that she wants to represent her community.

Well, Katie came on the show trying to celebrate culture, but she never celebrated culture.

Come on or bust.

That's what I see.

How many cultures is Gina celebrating, by the way?

At least Katie is making an attempt.

What is

like roller skating?

roller skating on long island culture in the 80s like i'm not really sure what she's going for but i don't know

maybe she's so ridiculous so then that's when she's like oh my god you just told me all this somebody talked about me thank you for being a reputable journalist and not running these stories

okay

she ran so tamara was on um jeff lewis and i saw a clip of it and she's like you know here's what happened okay

i heard from my friend jacques at the daily mail he's a very reputable journalist okay and he's like tamia crazy change you drug there and then he called dave quinn and then dave quinn told me sammy everybody said you got hipnolled or whatever so you hypnot her or whatever so all these journalists are like running around journalists see now they have me saying journalists jacques was at our party too

Jacques was at our party too.

Look at all this gossip we had right in our hands.

Jacques,

we will what were you talking about with me you didn't tell me any of this stuff why are they running to each other and not the real journalists in this group us we were right next to you jacques okay we i love how we are just like around all the guys i didn't realize that was that was this jacques but now that you said it yeah i guess so because i remember kiki's friend was from the daily mail and i think yeah jacques unless it was somebody okay well that makes sense because they were like little buddies he was like her date at the party or whatever so that makes sense that she would tell him

Well, yeah, I mean, maybe they're just, she was like, oh my God, get this.

Isn't this crazy?

But then Jacques goes and runs his mouth.

Maybe.

Did all this happen at our party?

Dave Quinn was hiding in the bushes.

Could you imagine?

They shot this entire season in the two weeks between our party and the season premiere.

We'll take credit, though.

We will take credit wherever we can.

Be my dream.

Summon down to Orange County to have to explain.

Can you tell me?

I heard that like you were talking about camera on your podcast and i'll be like yes um is this margarita for free um

do we get to talk to the parrots at mozambique no okay

um so here's how i know that here's how i think the telltale sign that gretchen is lying here because once kiki leaves gretchen starts to cry she's like i mean like i don't even know if it's the right word like but i mean i guess i am like people can't do this

People can't do this fucking shit to people.

And she's sobbing.

And I'm like, this is too performative.

I'm sorry.

The normal reaction would be like, fuck Katie.

Man, fuck her.

But the, the, the over-the-top sobbing in Mozambique in the presence of these macaw pirates makes me think that she was overcompensating for her lie, trying to show she was so hurt that she possibly could not possibly lie.

I was like, nope, nope, I'm not going to fall for it.

And also, why would she be so upset if somebody said, oh, oh why like it doesn't make you look bad if you were the one to get drugged at a party you know what i mean like it doesn't it doesn't say anything bad about you you're the victim in the situation i just don't understand where where she's where her tears and all of this coming from i think it worked magic and you know i think we were talking about how tamara and katie are friends now and then it was like you had said it and then i was like like it was sort of there was another thing that happened today where like they both were commenting on like social media on something that was very much like like she's my friend like tamara has swooped in she caused she dropped the bomb she swooped in she's now has katie on her side it's

it's masterful it's masterful manipulation it's actually it's mastro's fall it's mastros

so now we go back to heather's penthouse with her kids This is where we play games.

We have a penthouse where we have sexy times.

Me and Terry.

Yes, this is the episode where I stress how much sex I have with Terry.

Do you like it?

I learned it at the Crowdlings.

And so we have that for sexy times.

And then we have a game, a game house.

That's where we play.

And then on the lower

floor is where we put the children.

We, as a family, like to play games.

Okay, we like to play games and talk about sex.

But one game you will not play is Cards Against Humanity.

Sex version, because that is basically pornography.

You gave pornography to my child.

Remember that?

It's really hard playing a card game again after that.

Molester tried to give pornography cards to my daughter.

But here we are.

What a great season.

What a great season that was.

What a great season.

So they're playing poker.

They're a happy family.

I mean, this is sort of hilarious.

So they have a penthouse, but they have a rental in the same building.

So that way, when the kids come in from college, they can all assemble as a family and play poker and look bored.

So,

and then, yeah, when she says, the penthouse is more for sexy times, you know, fun, sexy times with Terry DeBrux.

I'm like, I don't know if the concept of sexy times and Terry DeBrux, I don't know if that concept actually exists, but you know, whatever.

You're an actress, sell the story.

Go ahead.

Are there rumors that Terry's cheating again?

Because that's what this is giving.

This constant, like, me and Terry, the sex, the sex fiends.

Okay, okay.

Uh, so, um, they suck at Texas Holdam, them, which is what they're playing.

They talk about like they love playing games together, all of that stuff.

I'm fast forwarding through the game playing.

Okay.

So then we're talking about the house that they're trying to sell.

It's listed for 25 million.

I think they sold it for $16.5 million, which is crazy.

They were trying to sell it for $25 million.

These huckstas.

Huckstas.

So yeah, so basically they, yeah, she talked about this, this house and then like wanting to get like a place in L.A.

And then eventually they just like finish up their poker and Terry's like, wow, that is so not how to play the game losing.

Am I right?

You ever heard the expression, poker face?

And then Kat is like, no, I know the Lady Gaga saw.

Oh,

that's funny.

Family.

What's so funny over here?

Listen, you can do a lot to me, but you can't fucking lie.

You can't fucking lie.

I'll see it.

natasha leone just barges in

by her side that's who they should have had as a liar face in a in a show where they bring up poker face bring on natasha leone liar that's bullshit i saw right through it

maybe that's why we had this poker scene in it it was sort of like a subtle reference to that ahead of our big polygraph bonanza yeah speaking of which

they brought up poker face

So I just want to say that I watched Miami before I watched Orange County, and Miami this week was so over-the-top opulent.

I mean, they went to this mansion by the ocean in like the south of Spain and there was like all these beautiful flourishes and there's lobster and caviar and champagne flutes the size of like a shoe and like, and then they go back up to Sevilla.

What'd you say?

Type of planes.

They're in this.

enormous, beautiful historical plaza.

There's enormous vistas and just gorgeous and parades and the street funeral processions.

It's just like luxe and glamour and whatever.

And it's just like, it's kind of like what the housewives is all about.

It is so big and extra.

And then to come to Orange County, where it's like, all right, the centerpiece of this episode, Emily's house.

It's like Emily's sofa from Ashley Convertibles or Jennifer Convertibles.

Like it just is such a contrast.

It was hard to find

Emily's in-laws pay for.

Allegedly.

Allegedly.

So Emily is talking to a party planner and she's like, I know, Naruz.

That's Persian New Year and it goes into spring.

On this spring, it's about new life.

We're really here to celebrate Persian New Year.

Let's bully the shit out of somebody.

You're ready, Naruz.

Yeah, what about like doing group polygraphs says Happy New Year?

Because that does not make any sense to me.

Yeah, it's pretty gross that she's like tying this in with a...

with a Persian like holy holiday.

What a dick.

So she tells us about all this, and that she's the only one who really celebrates it because Shane is half Persian, but he doesn't even care and he doesn't really know even anything.

And so we see her talking to Shane and going, Couldn't you name anything?

And oh, could you name anything that we're supposed to have on the half-scene?

And he's like, Uh, goldfish.

Yeah, but what does the goldfish stand for?

Snacks.

How dare you bring that up into our son, Moni to goldfish?

I gave Shader some kebab that, and I said, see you later.

So then we see people getting ready.

Gina has her hair in rollers, and she's like, oh my God, look at this volume, meatball.

Meatball's the dog, by the way.

I have to do my own glam because I spent all my money on your glam, but you do look really good, bro.

Oh, my God.

Gina implying that she ever was going to afford a glam team in the first place is hilarious.

Gina getting her glam glam done i'll never forget the scene where the lady who did their scalp treatments was horrified okay so at katie's house she's getting her glam and um she's very nervous okay guys she's very nervous and she's like persian new year is all about new beginnings so i'm hoping we can all move from forward move forward and start from zero um i'm sorry but have you watched bravo have you checked out the person show on bravo because it's never about like talk about getting your life wrecked shaws that's That's the way to do it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's a bad sign.

But also, like, Katie, I feel like how many times has Katie said this season, well, I just want to have a fresh reset.

We can start from zero.

We can all start over.

It's like every episode she has to say that single because she does lie.

I mean, like, her lies are hilariously bad.

Like, remember when she couldn't, she's like, well, I would, I would call the journalist now to clear it up, but I'm just getting no reception here.

I'm just no receptions.

Wow.

She's always caught.

Yeah.

So then we go to Gretchen's and she's like, well, I don't want to be there with Katie, but I also feel like I don't want to not go to Emily's party.

And Slade's like, oh, God, I'm so sorry you have to deal with this neighbor.

Dear father, I pray today that Gretchen snurdly dirtyly will be given the strength to sit and face those who have attempted to wrong.

Oh, shut the fuck up, Slade.

You gotta love, you gotta love Slade leading a prayer.

Give me a break.

I know.

God has better things to do than to like, you know, oversee Emily's polygraph party.

So

then we go to Emily's house.

She's like, ready for Persian New Year.

Where are my party people?

Whoa, to the windows, to the walls.

She's sweat drops down my polygraph.

So then Gina shows up.

She's like, oh my God, this is like beautiful.

Like you really put so much thought into it.

Like, how do you think today isn't going for you, Emily?

You think we can, like, I don't know, take the one non-white lady in our cast and make her run away?

What do you think we can do?

here's the thing i have two lie detector people here and a lot of liars so they're gonna be busy

oh i just want to hand so many people so many things and just get it all out of the way and be done with that like we gotta take a lie detector dance we're gonna have to do that she's gonna have to do that and then we see flashbacks of katie i'm not talking to bloggers which isn't technically a lie because Kikimoni is not in fact a blogger, right?

Yeah.

She doesn't have a blog.

Blogging isn't really a thing anymore.

the fact that they keep calling everyone a blogger is hilarious yeah and katie's like um i'll take a lie detector test i didn't do it she never should have said that katie katie yeah katie's actually hilarious in how many like how many rakes she steps on like it's like non-stop

So Emily, then we see a flashback and Emily's saying, we could invite everyone over to my house and then we could just have someone sit there and give everybody a lie detector test.

So now it's happening.

So Emily has converted

her office and something upstairs into polygraph rooms,

which I think is so fucked up.

I mean, this is very reality show.

It's probably producer-driven, but this is also really fucked up.

Ambushing everyone with a lie detector test?

What?

So Gina's like, yeah, that's a good idea.

Like, there's so many stories, you know, like Gretchen, obviously all the Katie stuff.

Like, it's so hard not to tell Emily about what happened with Kikimoni because I want to tell everything.

You've already told her.

Like, we already know that you've told her.

Why are you acting like you didn't tell?

Yeah.

You didn't tell Emily that you went for a full-on meeting with Kiki Monique and then she didn't call you two seconds after to find out all the gossip.

Come on.

100%.

Liar.

Is that a lie, Gingina?

Is that a lie I'm detecting?

Also, like, you know, the parrots have told everyone too.

The parrots were sitting there like,

she said right.

Kiki Monique's on the phone with Jacques right now.

She's like, Jacques, listen, I was at Mozambique today, awkwardly named restaurant.

That's besides the point.

A parrot on my way out said, camera's old.

It's crazy.

Let's really do something.

It's in the Daily Mail the next day.

So Dave Corn's like, I'm sitting on this one.

So then we are like, now they're writing their questions.

Gina's, they all are going to be writing questions for each other.

So Gina's like, how do you spell Roofie?

And Emily's like, I just put drug.

And then Heather shows up.

And one thing that Emily has done is that she has actually egged her doorstep, as you mentioned, because this is actually part of like, I guess, the tradition, or at least as has been told to us.

So Heather walks up and she just sees all these broken eggs all over the doorstep and she is horrified.

She's like, ooh, did their house just get egged?

Did someone just get fired?

And were they disgruntled from the staff?

I don't understand what's happening here.

It's watch what what crappin's making its yearly rounds.

I'm so sorry this happened to you on a shooting day.

It's me just passing by in my car.

It's me on a vet bus just like,

fuck off, Emily, you suck.

Or it's Kelly Dodd.

Yeah, Kelly Dodd.

Yeah, totally.

So, no, she would just throw her mom at the house.

So then the doorbell rings.

So Heather comes in.

She goes, wait, did somebody egg your house or is that part of the new year?

Is this something that the poors do is this like because you can't oh i know why because you don't have cartier to throw at the door you throw eggs instead do you have an egg bracelet wow these really are tough times gina's out there scooping up the eggs and putting them into ziplocs

If we cover the eggs with enough dirt, do you think Gina will think it's a steak from Mastros?

So Gina's like, what happened to your nose?

And she's like, oh, I had a biopsy yesterday.

It's a new accessory.

Do you like it?

Do you want to ask me questions about it?

Because that's kind of my thing.

You have to ask me questions.

Does anyone want to ask me questions?

No one, no one?

Okay, fine.

So they start writing down questions for their homework, but they don't tell her what it is yet.

And

Heather's like, wait, I need to talk to you before the other girls come.

Did you invite Tamara?

Did you?

She's like, well, I texted her the same text that I texted you guys to invite you.

Well, remember, I texted her and I said, where are you?

Are you okay?

And it's five days later.

And she texted me and she was pissed.

And we see flashback to their little lunch that they had together.

And Emily's like, at you, she was pissed at you.

She's like, oh yeah, pissed at me, pissed at all of us.

So why is she mad at everyone?

Because she believes that everyone should have reached out to her to see if she was okay.

Do you follow?

Oh my god, she threw a fit.

She told everybody to fuck off and she ran home.

Like, what am I checking up on?

Which, by the way, somehow this is not as bad as Katie just gossiping.

Right.

So Gina's like, yeah, like you can't play victim in this situation that you don't even remember.

Lay down, girl.

So Emily's like, whoa, should I

even invited her?

Because now she might come through the door and she's just going to come and hot.

Oh, you're worried about someone ruining the Persian New Year party that you're throwing to bully someone and kick out of your house?

Yeah.

Okay.

Coming in.

You're having a polygraph party.

That is the definition of coming in hot.

People are arriving into the heat.

Yeah, so everybody starts coming in and they're like, were you egged?

Just so funny.

But what's also funny, I want to point out, is that they're like.

They're like, oh my God, is Tamra going to come in all hot?

And then a car pulls up and we see like a blonde get out and it's like goes commercial like oh my god tamara's here but it winds up being just jen and it's like oh fake out but what's funny is that tamara does show up later so i don't know why they were like oh just kidding she's not coming but she is coming i was like oh oh okay i guess i guess they just needed to find a way to put in a cliffhanger for commercial is it a crime to build suspense before they tried to sell me some latuta

maybe not

oh uh were there some eggs were there some eggs do they were they um i i hope you don't tell John Jansen, otherwise he may sue you to pay him back for the eggs?

Oh, I'm so glad that commercial break is over.

Nothing is everything.

Well, Gina and I did this to myself.

We were getting rid of evil spirits, okay?

Katie,

Katie.

Hey, does anybody have some Tallulah sauce to put on Katie's face?

Because she just got egged, bad spirit, nailed it.

So so then they're running more questions

although i would love a tallula sauce little tallula bank head sauce is tall i'm sorry you guys i was wondering i was like that doesn't sound right um jen's like are these anonymous questions and emily's like yes please and jan goes oh well i i just put my my name on it as in tamara why are you such a bitch signed shannon

So Gretchen arrives and she just ignores Katie because Katie's there too at this point.

And it's like awkward.

And Katie's like, I'm just confused.

I'm literally on the outs with everyone because I was covering her lie.

Shouldn't you be like,

yes, amazing.

You did that.

I covered for you instead of treating me like a piece of shit.

Well, I mean, Katie,

you were covering her lie because you were the one who went out and told that to the blogger.

That's kind of the reason you were covering it in the first place.

That's true.

That's true.

Gretchen's like, well, I just wanted to say, why would you lie straight to my face?

You know, that's my question.

And I don't want to have an argument.

This is not the time or place.

Poor Emily just got egged.

So Emily's like, oh, I have a little fun activity.

You just have to ask a couple of questions, everybody, okay?

And Heather's like, how do we know they're going to tell the truth?

That's what I want to know.

Maybe I have a truth serum.

Maybe I'll throw eggs at your face until you tell the truth.

It's like, it's called vodka.

Has anyone ever played a game called poke

pake it's french you play it with cards and you do it until you seem like a happy family okay no okay truth serum is called vodka that's why no one's ever accused shannon of lying

So they're all asking questions.

Like Jen is like, can I really ask anything?

Is that okay?

Because in the nature of like this being, being very kind, this is lovely.

Thank you so from so much for letting me ask questions.

And Gina's like, oh my God, well, I already wrote for one for you and then I crossed it out because it's like, just like not worth pissing you off.

I mean, I'm just going to like do the obvious ones.

So just doing more questions, just more and more and more and more and more and more questions.

And we're seeing this, it's all just like a buildup for when they get into the

into the into the polygraph.

Yes.

So

now

they're talking about how Tamra's coming, but she's really mad at everybody.

And Shannon's like, oh, that's ridiculous.

Tamra's mad?

Well, she can storm off, but nobody else can.

No one else gets that grace.

Like, oh, Shannon, I don't know that you're really the one to be talking.

You storm off like 10 times a year.

Where's my grace?

You've been given a lot of grace, ma'am.

So Emily's like, well, I had a conversation with Shane and I said, you know, maybe I should reach out to Tamra, you know,

but I was just so overwhelmed with what I was going on with my son.

He refused to eat a sweet potato last week.

Like,

just say I was mad at Tamara and I didn't feel like dealing with her bullshit, so I didn't, didn't write to her.

But, like, you can be overwhelmed with the stuff with your son or anything else going on in life, but you can still, like,

that's not a, you're not overwhelming.

Not use your son as an excuse.

Like, just admit.

You were pissed at Tamara.

Like, why are you scared to admit that?

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