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Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo we love to talk about.

I'm Ben Mandelker.

Joining me today is the hilarious and glorious Ronnie Carom.

Hi, Ronnie.

How are you?

Well, hello.

How's it going?

It's going really well.

um

we're talking about the miami reunion today which was pretty amazing uh very excited to get into it monday we've got a crappy hour so join us for that that's gonna be 5 30 on the west coast 8 30 on the east coast

and um also join us on patreon uh we did a we did a recap of with love megan which is on netflix so that's our bonus episode you also have video content on there that's available for a week before it goes to youtube so you get that exclusive window uh so we have a lot of fun on there excited for that i want to give out can i give a shout out to our friend michelle collins i forgot to mention this on the oc

uh recap but i went to see her show wednesday night her show um and i think it's called wait why don't i know you that's uh that's the name of her show when i tell you it was the funniest thing ever like i literally like i almost peeped my pants and that's not an exaggeration i literally had a moment where i thought wow i'm getting old because i've i really had to like be content so i that's just my way of saying if she's coming to your city definitely go see her it was so funny we always have to hilarious friends and so like go check go check out michelle's show and it's also appropriate because she's from miami so there's a tie-in to this but yeah just wanted to give her a shout out about that absolutely she is one of the funniest people on the planet yeah she's hilarious that lady good

right on michelle another tour nail it debate nail it But today,

we're talking about other funny women who are funny for different reasons.

And that is this reunion.

What did you think, Ronnie, about this first installment?

I did.

I can't believe they gave us the bombshell.

Do you think that was the bombshell, or is there another one?

That was the bombshell.

I guess it was such a great bombshell that's going to have a repercussion throughout the

rest of the reunion, but I was not expecting that as the bombshell.

I don't know, we've seen something.

We've seen the preview that Adriana gives Julia a box and she's like, I have a...

I have a present for you.

And so she opens it and everyone's shocked like it's a tiny little Gwyneth's head in there or something.

So, I thought that was going to be the bombshell.

So, I don't know.

Are there more bombshells coming?

Yeah, I thought the bombshell was going to be like, you know, Adriana always wanted to my friend, but it turns out we're going to get some like emails that were like threatening and abusive, whatever.

I thought it was going to be like that, but I wasn't expecting this.

So,

that was a good one.

That was a good one.

Good for you, Julia.

So, we open with everybody coming to the reunion, getting their makeup did as usual.

Lisa's as cute as a cucumber.

I'm as cool as a cucumber because you know what I have on my side?

The truth.

The truth is on my side.

Then, Jodi, you have Jodie on your side.

I'm going to Jody.

You always got me.

Listen,

I can guarantee you this.

I don't know what's going to happen today, or my mouth's not going to open.

So,

Lara says, like, I'm not really like a receipt girl.

Like, I don't need to keep things on my phone.

Like, I keep beautiful photos of my feet and my children, my boyfriend.

Not in first grade.

It's like, I love that order of priorities.

My feet, my children, and my boyfriend.

I'm not in first grade.

Yeah.

Mature people keep pictures of their feet on their phones, Larsa.

I keep beautiful photos of my feet, my children, and my boyfriend.

That is like such an amazing quote.

I hope that gets like put on to like a poster someday.

So we see her boyfriend, Jeff Kobe.

He's laughing on the couch.

He just loves this.

He's like, my feet, my children, my boyfriend, I'm in.

In for life, I tell you.

So we go over to Stephanie's dressing room and she's she's just being wacky.

Like Stephanie really corrected in the middle of the season and now she's just going to be like fun and love everybody.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Guys, no joke, you have 11 minutes, which by the way, how many times does she say that to make up people?

Like that's like the moment she loves.

Guys, no joke, it's 11 minutes.

You better hurry up.

Then we go to Julia and she's like already crying.

She's like, it's just the last month, a lot of comments.

It was really hard for me and for my family.

And we see all these quotes of people being like, Julia needs to be deported back to russia julia needs to be dragged literally and figuratively oops julia's reading the show 100 hated this bitch so she's not doing so well emotionally with the fact that the audience has turned on her massively no she's like i'm not a weak i'm still so sensitive and she's like sobbing in her chair and i'm i felt for her for a minute and then i remembered that she's going to be awful in about five so i was like i'm going to hold off on that i'll hold off on my um empathy or my sympathy for a while babe so um then Adriana is checking on Gertie and they're both ready for battle.

And meanwhile, Julia is still sobbing.

She's like, I don't even have Martina with me.

She's with the boys at home.

I really wish she could be here for me to admit to America that I cheated on her.

Oh,

I have to do this alone.

Alexia and Marisol run in.

Oh, bro.

Okay.

Come on, Jay.

They give a big group hug, like, oh, no, no, it's okay.

We got you.

We got you.

We got you.

So Andy walks in and he is like, hey,

hey, share.

Oh, that's what I was going for, but with more dick.

Well, that's perfect.

How are you feeling about today?

Well, we have our little difference, but we'll get through it.

Wrong answer.

You're supposed to say we're going to scream at each other, and I don't know how we get through it.

Okay, all right.

Set an intention.

Okay, gonna say hi to Alexia now.

Hi, Alexia.

Hola, K Tal.

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So then Stephanie comes out.

Oh, this is a beautiful set.

Oh, this is almost this is almost as nice as Shoma Bazaar.

This is really nice.

This is really, really nice.

Do you guys have a do you guys have a like an espresso machine slash stage for Adriana's band?

No?

Okay.

And she gets first chair, which I think is.

You're right.

I didn't even pay attention to that.

She did get first chair.

Yeah, she got first chair.

And

so then Kiki, you know, everybody arrives and compliments each other, but Kiki doesn't like that.

Stephanie doesn't have her tits out.

She's like, you need more tit.

That's what you need.

Next time, more tits out.

So then Julia comes, you know, everybody comes out and says hi.

But the big news is Lisa is on time, everybody.

and um they're shocked and um adriana brings her damn dog on bosquiat i'm just like it's my emotional support dog and the yanid bosqui here i love him i don't know if you've heard my new single which is raging all over the charts i love my dog i love my dog i love my dog i love my dog

she literally released that as a song did she yeah

I love my dog

I posted a thing of Taylor Swift's new album coming out and put her face on it and it's I love my dog and I'm like, yeah, it's a good album.

Taylor's best album in the years.

And yeah, that's from the professional recording of I Love My Dog.

Oh, but I didn't realize she like released it on like iTunes.

I thought it was just, it's fine.

Wow.

I would expect nothing less from her.

So then Boski can't stay out there.

It'll be too chaotic because we know that Bosca is going to try to hump every leg.

We saw the footage from earlier in the season when he went to his horse

dog to have one last

trip to paradise.

That was good.

That was my favorite scene of the season, I think.

That was great, actually.

Hey, everybody.

Welcome to

Miami Season 7 Reunion.

I'm Andy Cohen, hoping to earn all the red flags for most likely to ask shady questions tonight.

Ola Sombrero.

Oh, macareda.

Okay, ladies, tonight.

Our location is inspired by one of Miami's many iconic and vibrant rooftop bars.

And it would be a Miami reunion unless we kick things off with some tequila.

God, I wonder why these reunions are always so chaotic.

Okay, everyone, drink up.

He says this is the only reunion where we begin with the tequila shot, which is funny.

So

they take.

Hey, Kiki, don't like try to get like too late.

Come on, like.

All right, Mary Soul, give us a toast.

Cheers, everybody.

Let's just have a good fucking reunion.

All right.

That's my cheers.

All right, Stephanie, if nautical Nautical Staff was as cool as a cucumber, what can we expect from reunion staff?

Thank you, Andy.

Thank you for making a callback to like my viral joke that it like broke the internet.

Like nautical staff is so funny.

Hashtag nautical staff.

I'm just going to be trying to be cool as cucumber too.

You know, like I'm, I'm still going to like voice my opinion.

Like, all right.

And Larsa, you brought a special guest today.

Is it a frame photo of your feet?

No, like, I feel like I brought my like boyfriend like because like I feel like like everybody's like I feel like met him like so, but like he's here like

how long has it been?

I think like eight months.

No, since you guys last broke up.

Oh, probably like two days ago.

But yeah, it's great.

And he wants to marry you by the end of the year.

I read it in the French magazine.

And it says, Real housewives, Larza Pippin reacts to Jeff Kobe saying they're getting married in November as he talks about ring shopping.

Plus, she reveals

why he stands out from past relationships.

So, is she going to be Miss Kobe, Mrs.

Kobe, by 2026?

And she's like, I like, feel like, like, I feel like, I think so, like, feel like.

Yeah, I think so.

Okay, cool.

Well, we all know this is going to end in failure, so we'll let you try to pretend like it's going to be something.

Miss Kobe trying it.

So, Andy's like, Kiki, what's the latest on the new condo?

You're living in a showboat condo.

No, I'm living in a different condo, but I'd already made plans to move into a showman before I even knew about Stephanie.

So, Stephanie, you got to give me half off.

Stephanie's like, what?

Half off?

That's crazy.

No, it doesn't work that way.

This is big discount.

Mary Soul, how is your pristine colon?

She's saying, oh, great.

Colon questions.

Oh, today it feels especially good, Andy.

My knees could use a little help.

My knees have taken a little bit of a bullying this evening, Andy, but my colon's feeling fine.

Thanks for asking.

Jeez.

Adriana, who has a higher sex drive?

You or Basquiat?

Remember when you had a boyfriend and for one episode at the beginning of the season?

Basquiat, however, he has not hired somebody from France to come in and pretend that he's the boyfriend for a few months.

So I don't know who wins this one, Andy.

It's a toss-up.

It's a toss-up.

Julia, you're coming up on a year since you and Martina have had the boys in your life.

Do they have any sense of what a champion Martina is?

Yes, I think they do because Martina walks in and wakes them up every morning by saying, wake up, a champion is waking you up.

So I think they're starting to get the point.

They understand because Martina watches tennis all day and she tells the boys, champion on TV, look at champion on TV.

I can tell you they call Steffi Graf useless and sorrowful.

So whatever, I don't know, you take this how you will.

Whenever we go to Denny's, Martina will only allow them to eat a grand slam.

And she says, I want that, but the real one, not some pussy version with pancakes.

And then she throws the pancake on the floor.

It's so funny.

Lisa, we're going to cover a lot of different topics.

Any plans to take notes?

I always take notes, Andy.

Well, you recently rang the opening bell at NASDAQ, which was hilarious.

Why did they let you in the room?

What the fuck were you doing at NASDAQ?

What are all the other celebrities taken that day?

How did Lisa Hoxteen ring a bell at the NASDAQ?

Did she think it was NASCAR?

What happened here?

That was a real piss-me moment, Andy.

It was on my bucket list.

Really?

I want to ring the bell at the New York Stock Exchange.

No, she didn't even do the stock.

She did the NASDAQ, which is not even the stock exchange.

Gertie got to do the New York Stock Exchange.

Not that one's better than the other, I don't think.

But like, I do like that Lisa has this moment with NASDAQ, but then it's like, it's superseded by Gertie doing the New York Stock Exchange instead.

It's like, yes, I got to do that.

It was, it was really amazing.

I couldn't believe that I was able to do that.

And unlike a cruise ship, I was actually allowed to be there and I wasn't kicked off for some reason.

But yeah, it was for breast cancer.

It was symbolic.

Where's your bell, Captain Sandy?

Alexia, when I last saw you, you said your relationship with Todd changes.

So how's it doing at 11.35 a.m.

today?

She's like, we're no longer together, Andy.

And zero contact.

I haven't seen, I haven't spoken to him.

him i blocked him from my social media from my phone from my emails from everything it's the only way to do it andy that's how i am strong it's me strong hold on something's bulting in my pocket maybe it's thought maybe it's thought

it's not that it's not that we're still broken up

are you still going by nepola well legally i am but like not that that matters but like on social media i remove nepola i was just alexia you know like madonna i'm just alexia i never really identified with that last name i never feel like you know and i feel like you really have to feel it you know i never felt like nepola you know like you know what i feel free andy because all you have you have no idea i would come to these reunions and i would be in a fight and he would torture me and he would say that none of you women were my friends and i would say no but i'm a star of course they love me i'm a star and you know what you know you know like that's what i was that's what i was going to on the show Yeah, he would pick fights with her.

And she'd tell me the day before town picked a fight with me.

And then we'd go to the reunion and he wouldn't talk to her.

She'd go home and he still wouldn't talk to her.

I mean, I don't know how she came out here and did it because the reunion is a hard day.

It's a very difficult day.

We're artists.

And to come out here and just perform our art like this tanks something, Andy.

I mean, we all went to school for this for many, many years.

This is a very, very difficult profession.

And to not have the support of the old man who's currently funding your condo dreams.

I mean,

it's rough, Andy.

I mean, thank God I got Steve back there being like the, being like the iron that I need to keep me going.

Like, look, hey, Steve, how are you doing?

Oh, can someone wake up steve i don't think he realizes hey can we cut to the steve cam to see what steve's on to cut to steve just being like so your name is jeff uh

play uh football football

yeah basketball yeah i'm more of a golf more of a golf kind of a person myself you golf no you ever you ever listen to frankie avalon no so andy is like It's like, okay, well, Todd's been active on social media.

Islington Boys on Instagram posted a question to Todd, and he said, the wife of a friend said that she's driving his fake car living in his fake apartment what should she do to which todd replied hello islington boys i would like to say i'm very sorry that you had to be door that question over here on social media the truth is that actually it depends does the woman bring anything to the relationship or is she just there to get things hold on new piece of paper I apologize to Alexia.

When I said that comment 10 seconds ago, that was not my best self.

I was in an angry place.

And sometimes when you're angry, you say things you don't mean.

Please accept this box of Godiva chocolates on my behalf to know that I meant nothing by it at all.

Thank you, Todd.

I would like to apologize heretoforth and now at thence to Dip and Dots for not offering their services during my apologies.

I have now remedied this and sent Alexia Dip and Dots to apologize for my behavior, which was thereto forth unreliably nasty.

Thank you so much for your matter to this attention

well you know first of all that's like very typical todd because we all know he loves to do videos and then we see videos of todd like

doing all those apologies and like so it doesn't it doesn't surprise me that he would say something like that because he obviously knows that i wasn't there for the money okay i was just there for the eco department i think okay well with the narcissist

right now andy you know like my next person's gonna be poor really no i'm just kidding.

I'm just kidding, Andy.

Come on.

I'm not there for the money, but I would not be there without the money.

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Basically, she's like, we all know Todd's a raging fucking crazy person and goes and makes rude videos online.

That's part of his charm, Andy.

So then

the question is, okay, well, you now finally admit that that narcissist party was for Todd.

And so, of course, Alexia flip-flops and she's like, okay, now I'm going to admit it, Stephanie.

That was for him.

That was for him.

That's true.

That's true.

I know it's like a big shock to everybody.

Like after I said, this is a narcissist party and it's for Todd, but it was for Todd.

It was.

Stephanie's like, I knew it.

I knew it was about Todd.

And it's like, okay, there you go.

I said,

are you going to start dating?

Well, I feel like I should, but because you know, like, you know, that there's an old expression that says one nail drives out another.

That's a Spanish saying that's like a new nail takes out another.

Like when you cut your nail, the nail, another nail grows back.

So, you know, like what I'm trying to say is, I'm going to get a manicure after this

at Frankie and Frankie and Alexia's nail salon.

Thank you.

Well,

Marius Oll explains that it means like the best way to get

over somebody is to get under somebody new, basically.

Oh, is that what that meant?

Yeah, she's like, I thought she lived in that one message.

I thought when she pointed at the finger, it meant like a new nail comes in when you get rid of the old one.

My biggest revenge is getting my power, Andy.

That's my biggest revenge.

Okay.

You know what?

I'm taking my, you know what?

I gave somebody new hair today.

And I won.

I won, Andy.

So you feel like you have your power back?

Yes, I do.

Although, actually, there's a power outage, so I actually don't have power in the condo.

But like, you know, generally speaking, but I got it back.

Yeah.

It's not powerful, but I got it.

I got it.

Oh, that's great.

All right, let's switch gears, Gertie.

Viewers love seeing you with Nicole this season for five minutes.

How was that?

Do you hang out?

She's like, we're set to see each other very soon.

It'll be a mini reunion, Andy.

Mini reunion.

It's going to be amazing.

Here, I have the details for it right here.

Please join Nicole on a boat with Captain Cindy.

God damn it, I'm going to get kicked out of the restaurant again.

Well, I'm curious if you think your issues with Julia would have turned out differently if Nicole were there.

My issue with Julia would have been great if she had picked up the phone and called me directly, Andy, instead of having Norma, some lady named Norma call me and telling me that I'm fired.

Well, one of the biggest things that viewers reacted to was the women's lack of reaction to the water toss.

So we see all that and Gertie is saying, well,

I was repacked.

It was like re like, I literally repacked.

I literally repacked.

I don't know what she's even trying to say there.

But then, oh, I guess this is this just the fight.

Sorry.

Sorry.

I thought this was, we're back in present time, but we're still in the flashback.

So they have the fight, the water thing.

And Alexia is like, yeah, I mean, like, looking back and reliving this and like watching it, like, I wish I would have said something and I wish I would have done more.

And I mean, the way that Julia disrespected Gurdy, that was not okay.

Okay.

It was not right.

You know, and I feel like we were just in shock because who would do that in front of a star?

Right.

And at that moment, there was like no excuse that we didn't stick up for gurdy except for all the excuses we're about to give yeah so i wanted to i want you to know that there's no excuse and like i'm never going to say anything about it even though i'm about to make 20 excuses about it and tell you how it's your fault Okay.

And so Larsa's like, yeah, but like, like sometimes like we're like, what happened?

But like, but we were like, I feel like I don't condone this behavior.

But like Julia didn't know she was going to do that.

So it wasn't rehearsed to something.

So like, it's okay because she didn't rehearse it.

So like, I think it was like very reactive like she just wanted to throw it at the table and we all got soaked it wasn't just it wasn't just gertie I'm like oh okay okay so you guys don't want to make any excuses all dresses matter yeah

all tablecloths matter guys it's like the same thing

so wait you confirmed that she intended to throw the water towards me

Well, it was directly at her.

Like, what do you need?

Confirmation.

I'm saying like, we should have all done more.

But like, however, like sometimes when you're sitting there, you don't do anything.

like you didn't do anything when adriana threw a whole glass at me gertie and then we go back to 2022 don

and we see that there was that did happen and

there no there was no reaction from anyone and adriana's like i did not throw a glass at you she's like you threw a whole glass at me a drink and a glass a drink inside of a glass but the drink came out of the glass because you threw it so it fell out of the glass but they both came out also you threw ice at me that day don't forget like you threw ice at me because there was like you threw a straw at me too Remember, there's an umbrella.

Someone took an umbrella and shrank it and put it in the glass.

Instead of like celebrating that, like, amazing feat of science, you threw it.

You almost broke the scientific miracle.

Yeah, that is called speaker deflection.

Okay, you're trying to bring science into something to deflect.

Okay, and I don't know what you're saying.

Like, what are you getting at right now?

Wait, do you accept Alexia's apology?

No, that wasn't an apology.

No, no, I literally came to listen more than I'm going to speak.

So I would like to listen for an apology.

They're like, um,

like she,

so she's like, okay, well, you know what?

There is a history in this group, and there is a pattern of people throwing objects or things and not liking it.

But when it happens to you, that's when you get upset.

I don't know what there's a history of throwing things in this group.

And you don't say anything, but when it happens to you, you get upset.

And you have every right to be upset, just like everyone else did when it happened to them.

We've all had things thrown on each other it comes for you one of these days first they threw a cocktail umbrella at larsa we say nothing then they throw an ice cube at adriana and we say nothing

and then you know what the juice box comes at lisa and we said nothing you know and then the water came but now you're saying something about the water

like i don't my thing

So Kiki's like, my thing is me and Gertie, we were good.

And even at that event, like I stood up for you as a friend, which is, I i understand you probably think i did not do my best but as a friend in that moment that's what i would want the friend to do for me and we see footage of like kiki kind of like at that moment trying to like pull gurdy away and like calm her down and kiki basically says that in the wake of that she actually got threats and people were saying that she was racist or something like that um and she says yeah i'm getting all sorts of threats and gurdy's like racist about what and she says because i wasn't supporting she goes oh so now you're racist and she said well that's what the whole internet was saying i'm being tagged from your post from everything.

And Andy's like, wait, it's my understanding that you said in the press that by her removing, uh, by her removing you, she made you look like an angry black woman.

Okay, well, that's not saying that she's a racist, right?

Right.

I'm Gertie never said that.

I mean, I can understand how they would say, okay, well, everybody's coming at us online and calling us racist.

You know, Gertie said in the past, that's the audience doing that, not Gertie.

But I guess they're saying Gertie is like

in a detractified article, Gertie is quoted as saying because this is on they put this up and she's saying i'm being pulled physically when i haven't done anything but you want to make it seem like i'm being held back because i'm about to swing like an angry black woman kiki stop it let's not do that so gertie is also saying that and so kiki is like like i'm getting tagged and people are threatening me and they're literally saying like fafo fuck around and find out alexis like what's happening gertie is the second half of the season we go to spain and there was some kind of resolution and we're all getting along and even you and julia appear to be in a good place and then the show comes out and then you went into a press tour and then this whole war starts on social media you know and and it didn't even include me a star and so then we see like more headlines about all this yeah but also she's talking about stuff that happened on the show i mean what the hell like they all do it they all talk about whatever storylines are going on the show like the fight is fresh so i don't know i don't know so i kind of get what they're saying here but like they're basically basically i what i hear alexia saying is we had a little fight, there was some water thrown, it wasn't that big of a deal, it happens all the time, then you made up, and then, then you act like you're offended again and let everybody call us racist is basically what she's saying, right?

Which, okay, I can see that, but it's not Gertie's job to go out there and say, they're not racist, nothing they did, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

We've all seen, we all saw the show.

I mean, the audience pretty overwhelmingly felt like it was not cool what you guys did and how you overreacted to Gertie putting text up on a screen, but didn't give a shit that Julia just like attacked her in this thing.

That's not cool.

And it doesn't matter that you do it all the time because you all have something to say about it when it happens to you.

It's not like it just goes by without anybody saying anything.

So the audience saw it.

So blame the audience.

And there was something, like even before we got to the text message thing that happened later at Gertie's event, we all clocked it.

When it happened, right after the episode aired, we all clocked at this.

There was an undertone of something feeling problematic about this because it wasn't just like the other like water throwing things were like little like ugh whatever but there was something about like being in like a wedding

and like it was like julia was julia's basis for being angry at gurdy felt so tenuous at best already and there was something about like that she just like really soaked gurdy at like

in a context that just felt it just felt like more humiliating than the other things we saw like you cannot compare kiki throwing a juice box at Lisa on that on that boat to to that moment like that was not a humiliating moment, okay?

Even if, even if Lisa felt some sort of way about having an object being thrown at her, like, I'm sorry, this was just, you know,

it was like all the loved ones were there, the husbands were there.

It was, it just was like a

time when you sort of don't expect that.

And it just was, it came off as really sort of like more hurtful than the other spill.

It was also a lead out to it because the season started with Alexia being like, you know what, Gertie, you're just too much.

You're too loud.

Like you got, you're just too loud.

You need to stop being so loud.

And Mary Saul being like, yeah, you're just too much.

You're just too loud.

Like, no one wants to be around that.

So it had come after that.

That's how the season happened with you guys being like, she's too much.

And everybody kind of trying to ice her out and saying she's too much and she's too loud and she's too energetic and she's too this and that.

And then when Julia came after her at that wedding, it was literally out of nowhere.

They were having a little argument about text and then she stands up and just, it was so over the top and nobody did anything and then took her side.

And that's why it's

weird, you know?

It didn't go as far as to say like racist.

It just

felt icky and it felt like you should know better.

It felt icky.

Agreed.

Although what we find out later in this episode, which I thought was fascinating, was that there actually was a bit more of a reaction towards Julia than what they actually had aired, which is a little fucked up because it kind of like held a lot of these women out to dry.

You know, they're like, oh, they didn't have any reaction.

But we saw that they actually did have some reaction, but it still was not as big as the reaction later on in the season yeah now all of this said i do think that gurdy you know she's so stubborn in her yeah she's like no no you know she's she's got the winds of the audience behind her as well so i think she's coming into this like i won't she's a little hot

yeah she's a little hot the thing with when gurdy is angry she like literally cannot hear input so and it is frustrating on these shows especially at the reunion like the rule is you fight and then you make up, and then you fight and then you make up and then you have a huge fight and it's entertaining and then you have to forgive each other and stuff.

And I don't necessarily blame Gertie for being like, no, you don't get to just come here and pretend you're sorry because social media got mad at you, which I think is what she's saying right now without saying it.

But Alexia is like, oh, you know, I never would have done that after thinking about it.

Like, I'm really sad for Gertie now.

Like, no, you're mad because the audience, like, you're saying that because the audience is coming for you, you know?

Yeah.

So I don't blame Gertie for not just immediately swallowing it and moving on.

The fact is, it was some bullshit.

Yeah.

So, so then

Alexia's saying, Alexia is basically now like complaining that Gertie went to social media and like sort of attacked him on social media.

She's like, you know, every single episode when this was happening, I mean, like, you know, like, I mean, we're all together.

We don't think that it's right.

It's not right.

It's not right that you go on social media.

Fan the flames.

You're fanning the flames.

And we see Gertie's text and everything.

And Gertie's like, no, no.

These were bad.

I don't, I I think that they're overreacting to stuff.

They're trying to accuse her of saying that they're racist.

And she never said that.

And I don't think she hinted at it either.

This thing with Kiki was another black woman, and she didn't say, she was just saying, like, you should know better than to try and make me look like an angry black woman in front of all these people.

So Gertie is like, okay, well, show me.

Then tell me exactly what you're talking about, these tweets or whatever I did.

So we see one from her and it says, they came to perform.

I came to inform.

They thought chaos was power.

Well, I just let lego do the heavy lifting gurdy hashtag gurdy i don't think that that was fanning the flames or being bad i think that's a normal they all go social media

they all get on social media and say crazy things i mean larsa for crying out loud so gurdy is like i wasn't saying this she did this because of this because it created some sort of flame that's like okay well you're not aware of it no i'm asking you like what is what did i put on social media just

i would like to know and she's like well for example the one with like julia to the water's like well i never posted that well you never acknowledged on your press that you were in a good place for julia I was like, well, and he's like, okay, all right.

Well, maybe she was reacting to what was airing at the time, Alexia.

That's what it was.

Gertie's like, well, I do appreciate that you saying that the press that you wish that you could have done more, but because, like, you know what you did?

You did do, you did do more.

And now we're going to play the footage of what happened after I got the water tossed.

Not a table, not a gurdy.

I'm going to, I'm going to do all security.

Okay.

Like, let's, let's roll the footage.

Let's roll the footage, which I love when housewives prompt the director to like

the package.

Roll that beautiful bean footage, please.

You didn't get me a towel, you didn't get me security, nothing.

We're going to see that right now.

And I like that Larsa's like, Well, you didn't get me a towel two years ago.

And I didn't help me either when someone was throwing water on me.

What I did is get you guys verbally then hazing me after that.

So you did do a lot after you hazed me.

You hazed me.

So then we see 11 minutes after the water tossed.

And Alexia is going, well, I'm just saying, you know, like you put all your eggs in one basket.

And how did that work out for you?

And she's like, what?

What are you talking about?

And she's like,

Larsa says, Nicole, because you're friends only with Nicole.

And that's what we're saying.

Like, you're wondering, like, why we're not your friends now, but like, you were only friends with Nicole.

Now Nicole's gone.

You don't have like friends like.

Well, I'm telling you, and I'm telling you.

So like I'm saying, I felt like you were a little bit disconnected with everybody in the group, which is why it's okay for you to get watertone on your head.

That's all.

And he's like, yeah, I agree, by the way.

So like, this was like, they did, like, literally tear into her.

So it's funny because they, they do tear.

We see them tear into Julia later, but I did forget that they also were like being really shitty to Gertie right afterwards.

Yeah.

So Andy's like, Gertie, what's your reaction to the equivocation of other people getting things thrown at them and not reacting?

It's like, well, there's context behind that.

And we all know that this is part of a bigger idea or concept.

And Larsa's like, she never like answers the question like, oh my God, she literally did.

Yeah, you're kind of a good idea.

And Gurdy had a good line.

I probably don't know what concept means.

Yeah.

Gertie, I liked when Gertie said this.

Well, you know, Julia, she's a three-peat offender, Julia, of course.

And the fact of the matter is that you've all tried it at Marisola, which Marisol forgets.

You know, oh, I

didn't forget.

I just, you didn't help me either.

And you got, by the way, no one helped me when she threw ice at me.

By the way, remember that?

No?

No.

Someone stopped her, didn't they?

When she threw the ice bucket, someone came over and like, yeah.

So someone helped you.

And they couldn't really help you when

you were all sitting down.

Weren't they all sitting down like in a big temple in beach chairs or something?

I mean, come on.

And number two was at the Mamasita's luncheon where for some reason she felt the need to break glassware and break a chair when Nicole had to pay for a replacement.

And then we see footage that we never saw before of Julia screaming like, Marisol, say yes.

Did you say yes or no?

Did you say it's okay?

Stop, stop, stop, stop, damn, did you say it, Marisol?

And she's banging a chair on the ground.

I was like, why didn't we get to see that?

Why didn't we get to see that?

Why have they been holding Julia's crazy back?

And also have people, including me, forget how fucking psycho Julia is.

I mean,

some of the clips they showed, I was like, oh my God, I forgot that Julia goes this crazy on people.

Yeah.

And then Gritty's like, and then number three is when she physically assaulted me and she finally landed her moment on TV.

I was like, I like that.

I like painting the narrative of Julia, like trying to have a big reality TV moment and like

taking all the music cut out.

Yeah.

Finally, she co-starred me.

So she got picked up.

That's what happened.

That's what happened.

You're welcome.

Well, why hasn't Julia spoken one word?

She's like, yeah, well, I'm about to ask her, what made you throw the water that night?

Oh, I understand that watching the footage brought you back horrible memories, and I'm very sorry.

Again, I was out of character.

I reacted.

I overreacted.

It was slightly techie line health, hee hee, but it is not excuse.

There was no excuse for it.

Nothing that I do was planned or really rehearsed.

I am sorry.

Why do they keep saying that?

Like that gets her off the hook.

Yeah.

Because Larza said it about her too.

Like, it's not like she planned it.

She's like, yes, I didn't plan it.

What is that?

I think that she was accused of the plan.

Because I think when she threw the water, it felt like kind of awkward and clunky, almost like she was planning to do that all along.

I think that people felt that at the time.

It did seem like that.

It did seem like it was like, I'm going to be mad.

I'm going to scream.

We're going to have this huge fight and I'm going to throw water.

It did feel like that.

But I don't think that anybody said it here.

I mean, I probably said it, but Gertie's like, Wow, that's scary, Julia.

She goes, Well, this is how I am scary.

So,

and um, so Adriana's like, Accept the defense you just got here.

Well, it's been three times, you've done it three times.

Let her finish, though, like, let her finish, though, let her finish, though.

Like, she didn't panic.

Go ahead, finish your speech.

I am incredibly sorry, and I already said sorry to you, Getty, and I would like to say it one more time because I mean it's not only my heart, but God's heart and all I can say sincerely I'm very very sorry three times three times three no three times between you and I it happened it happened one time between one of us okay it's just well the scoreboard's really only one because it's spread around other people commercials

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Okay, we've heard a bunch of fake, stupid apologies.

Let's talk about Gertie's celebration of life event.

Ladies, the big issue that resonated with viewers was your outrage at Gertie showing the text versus your response to the water being thrown.

Mary Saul, you are raising your knee.

Go ahead.

She's like, more.

Yeah, you know what?

I would like to say something because

I took Jolie to the bathroom to calm calm her down and I told her where we're mic'd, so you can roll the footage if you want.

But I said, don't throw anything at anybody ever unless it's Adriana's face.

So

we see footage of Julia, like Maricel and Julia going to the bathroom at the wedding, and Julia's like, I'm going to cry.

I'm going to cry.

Oh, no, I'm literally going to cry.

I'm going off.

All right.

Well, hey, just look,

don't throw things.

I was very angry with Julia, and I was equally angry.

I just don't like it in public in a display.

It's humiliating.

You know, neither of them were right to me.

I said that.

No, no, no, no, no.

I want to respond, you know, because the big difference between these two things, like, I'm happy that you said behind the scenes, don't throw water, but would have been great, like, hey, ladies, we need to have a discussion in front of me because that's the problem I never saw with me present.

But that's not true, though.

Like, that's not true, though.

So So then we see another flashback to two minutes after the water toss.

They've left all this stuff out, which is crazy.

So it's all this stuff that we haven't seen.

And Kiki is now helping Gertie clean water off.

And Gertie and Mary Stall is like, yeah, I don't like throwing of stuff.

And Larsa says, yeah, I don't like this.

Like, I feel like we can't throw drinks.

Like, we can't, I feel, like, do that, Julia.

Like, she, she literally reprimands Julia, like, right in front of Gurdy.

And Gurdy goes, well, thank you, Larsa.

Thank you, Larsa.

Again, this was not as big of a reaction as the other event, but, you know, it was, it was a reaction.

So Gertie's like, well, actions speak volume and your inactions speak volume as well.

And they're like, no, Gertie, but like you had the same situation last season with Larsa.

And Gertie's like, well, we're talking about this season.

No, but like, you're not going to tell me when, like, what I'm going to talk about, Gertie, because I'm talking about last season.

And you sat here and we listened to you.

And you need to respect us too, because I'm going to say what I need to say.

Okay.

Cause I'm a star.

But what was the thing that she's saying, the situation with Larsa last year, the same situation with Larsa?

Actually speaking.

I don't know, to be honest.

Her situation with Larsa was just that Larsa blabbed about her cancer, right?

Yes.

She was blabbing about her cancer.

That's what I thought too.

So Alexia is like, no, you need to talk.

Let us talk.

You know, we gave advice to Larsa that she should have had the conversation with you instead of making it about everybody else.

Yeah, but like, you never like answered your phone like and you didn't like answer your text like like I said you like flowers, I feel like, and you like, I didn't, you didn't like respond.

respond she's oh behind closed doors behind closed doors and andy's like she's agreeing with you she's like oh well you know what but they're ready to public shame me so they can't public apologize but they can public shame which i get

no one's public shaming you

stay on earth stay on earth

okay well what stay on earth

what what did the text messages prove that you put up well the point was that after like multiple attempts of saying guys look it's not true look look look no one wanted to listen yeah but what what did it prove it proved everything but they don't read andy they just don't read and adrian's like well just say that you were invited and didn't ask and and didn't ask to go and like that's what the point was yeah she's just trying to help her because they're just asking her for simple clarification and that's what she should have said they're proving that i never begged to go on this cruise julia's crazy right

so gertie's like wait wait i get to a point with people not listening you feel unseen and you know it feels like i don't matter and can't reprimand her in front of me because of this little click click thing and then you know you get to a point where it doesn't matter and that was my breaking point and I said I'm done.

I'm done.

I'm doing it and I'm done.

That's it.

Texts are going on the screen.

All right.

Well, so this event and these events they happen on the show.

She's apologized to you maybe five times on camera now.

Where do you go from here?

Well I think that we need to come to a place right now, presently, and I wish it would have been at the premiere party where you say, you know what, something big happened between me and Gerdy, but I want to move us, see us move forward.

Okay, so what about tonight, though?

I'm trying to set this up for a hug, an apology, something like that.

So come on, you can do it.

Well,

where are you today, Julia?

Where am I?

I'm right in front of you.

I'm girl.

A girl standing in front of God

in bookstore.

Wondering why Julia Roberts is on bus.

Is she a new film?

I love her.

Okay, get to the point.

Just say sorry.

I'm so sorry.

Okay, well, why didn't you call me before?

Watch what happens live apology.

Why didn't you call me?

You haven't called me for anything.

Well, I did not call you.

My children were under attack.

You could have, like a good friend, you are, you could have volunteered and say something to stop spreading this hate.

My children, my boys.

Oh, stop with you dragging your boys on here as props.

That's crazy.

You could have still called her and worked this out.

That's nuts.

Well, I had no idea the public was attacking your children.

No, not the public.

It was Martina making them up at four in the morning making them play tennis every single morning they're out there attacking them with balls

saying run faster looser run faster

so she says uh she went online she accuses gertie of going online and discussed publicly shaming us for changing the boy's name referring to them like grown children and we see the tweet from gurdy and it says i've never judged martina for anything she has done in the public eye let alone never questioned them for renaming their adopted grown kids

So then Julia's saying that they can sold.

What was this?

What was this bad?

I don't know.

I have to see what it was a reply to because

I've never judged Martina for anything in the public eye.

So that means that it was based on something somebody had said about Martina or something, or Martina must have said something, let alone never question them for renaming their adopted grown kids.

So she's just saying, I'm not, she's saying I'm not judging them, but I guess they're saying that is judging them by bringing it up in a tweet very confusing

um but basically julia says they spoke to child psychologists and it was like okay and andy's like okay well you post about the kids for their security which i mean she's putting them on tv so i don't know that that really

that was our personal choice for them and their security which i mean you're putting them on tv so

guys kids are off limits like kids are off limits okay you don't ever talk about the kids you just wait for them to turn 18 and then you start dating them.

And he's like, okay, well, so here we are.

Here we are.

Okay, where do you go with this, Gertie?

Well, I'm right here.

Okay, I didn't start this fight.

I never knew about this fight.

Can you at least admit that it was not about the cruise at all?

No.

Uh, it was not about the cruise?

Yes, because of the cruise, I think you saw an opportunity.

But you just publicly humiliated me with text messages to prove that you were...

Not asking to go on cruise, but it's not about the cruise.

Yes, yes.

Why can't you follow along?

Okay, I'm just going to say, the only opportunity i'm seeing is how to move forward you because how you and i have face each other after eight months and that is the only goal and i now apologize if you what is this nine times nine times apologizing by the way i hate when she keeps announcing the number of times she's apologized because that totally drains the sincerity out of it if you're keeping tabs on how many times you've apologized yes you've maybe may have done it many times but if you sincerely want to apologize and move on you're not going to throw it in the other person's face how many times you've apologized Just say, I just keep saying, like, I really, I truly, truly, truly want to move on with you.

Well, it's also annoying because Andy started it by saying she apologized five times.

So now every time she apologized, she goes, now it's a sixth time, right, Andy?

Now it's eighth time, right, Andy?

Can we get her up?

Counter?

Can we get counter up?

And she's doing this whole thing where she's got her eyes half closed.

Like she's just so, she's about to fall into a just a depression hole.

And she's like, my only core wish and desire that I have

is to go down on my knees to beg for your forgiveness.

Like, okay, okay, no one's asking for that.

And Gurdy's like, no, no, you called me psychopath scary.

You said at Lisa's party, she's fake.

And she goes, but I apologize 10 times now.

But those things matter because I'm not fake and I've been nothing but a good friend to you.

And so when we're there eight months and you have nothing bad, there's not one text message from you in eight months, you know, like, I can't believe it.

I can't believe it.

It's like, I'm sorry.

What do I do to make it better?

How about not not just apologize for shit when you're on TV?

How about like be a real life, fucking decent person?

I think is her point.

You know, her point is like, why do I have to come on here and forgive all these people after they've been tortured online when not one of them has made a real life effort to be nice?

You know, they're bitches to me all year.

It's like two years in a row with Julia working behind my back and being an evil asshole to me.

And now all of a sudden I have to forgive her because she's crying on TV.

And I have to make a public show so people don't go bully her children, which by the way, stop bullying her children if anybody's doing that.

That's fucking psycho.

But, you know, obviously, but I don't think Gertie needs to like fold either.

I don't believe one thing Julia says at this point.

Yeah.

Gurdy's like, well, the cruise, the cruise.

And Julie's like, but the cruise was two years ago.

Well, she needs to admit that the cruise was a big deal.

Well, we're not going to learn anything.

I'm like, weren't you just saying?

We have to admit this isn't about the cruise.

This is the thing why it's also tough with Gertie because she's like a moving target.

And like, it's like, wait, she was saying like it's not about the cruise but now it is about the cruise and it's like it's a little like i would kind of go a little nuts trying to like reason with her i think you just have to like once she's like once she's pissed off and once she's activated you just kind of can't like you just you can't like

really expect much you just have to wait for her to become down and then you can have those things well i'm not defending julia i'm just saying that gurdy is also like really

like she just gets she gets into a mode and it's like you can't get through i have to say i get it because they're i feel feel like they're gaslighting her they keep acting like what but gertie i said i'm sorry but you're not saying what you apolog what you're sorry for you haven't admitted that the cruise thing was bullshit that you did all this stuff behind her back gertie's not like verbalizing She's just saying like, I'm right, I'm right, I'm right, which I think is failing her, but she's not verbalizing what the real problems are.

And I think it's making her crazy that this lady is just sitting there saying, but I said I'm sorry.

And it's like, but you know, you're not saying you're sorry.

You didn't say anything about the cruise, why you were wrong about that, that you were lying behind my back and going to these ladies that you know don't like me and talking all this shit to them to get on their good side when none of this stuff even happened.

I never begged you to go on a cruise.

I never did all this shit.

So I can see why she's kind of going crazy, you know?

Well, it makes sense why she's going crazy, but I wish she, if that's the reason why, what you were saying, I wish she would.

I wish she was saying she's not like verbal tools to sort of say it.

Yeah, she's like assuming like you know, she wants them to say, like when you're wrong, you want the other person to say, I'm sorry, and this is why I'm sorry you know what i mean and they're not going to give her that but the as far as the cruise being two years ago julie's like the cruise was two years ago who cares but it was a year later that you were making it a storyline it was not it shouldn't have been a big deal then either you know oh it's crazy making so andy is like well this is it's clear you guys aren't going to resolve this tonight so it's complicated it's deep blah blah blah yeah what do you want to do bullier like what what she's apologized 10 times like stop bullying her it's like oh my god okay thanks larissa yeah thanks So then Adriana was like, Garrity, you're taking the bait.

You have to say about the lies, about the facts of the cruise.

You just have to say it.

It's not about the details of the cruise.

I'm like, but it is Gertie.

I also feel like sometimes Gerdi is not honest with herself.

Like, it is about that.

That's why she put up the text messages in the first place.

And it's okay that it's about that.

You should be pissed because you were treated like shit on that cruise.

And then Julia made it sound like you were a hangar on and being like a diva.

Like it is about that.

And as well as other things.

Yeah, I think Audreya was actually giving her good advice here.

She's like, you need to just specify why you're mad.

And she's like, please, I promise you.

They already said they don't want to talk about the details.

So she goes, okay, well, then I'm going to go too.

Like, if everybody's going to get up, I'm going to go PP2 because now they're, this is all kind of backstage stuff.

So Gertie's like, listen, Adriana, you got to get a hold of yourself.

She goes, I'm just trying to help you.

And she's like, no, no, it's not about the details.

Nobody cares about the cruise.

Okay, we did good.

We did good.

I promise you.

Now you're getting too heated.

She's like, I'm not heated.

I know.

She's like, Gertie's saying that.

So now they come back to the set and Lisa's like, I just want you guys to make up.

That's all.

It's like, well, there's no band-aids and it's because we've got to talk about the issue.

If we can't do that, then we won't do that.

And then Stephanie's like, oh my God, the sofa's green where I was sitting.

Isn't that outrageous?

I am such an outrageous housewife.

This is an iconic moment, right?

We're going to remember this for the next 10 years.

The green sofa.

So show my group.

Oh, Miss Green, careful on that plane now.

You hear?

Oh, she's like not getting like on that plane like with that outfit.

Like there's no way like, so she's going to be leaving literally right after this going to work andy i've like never multitasked so much in my life those condos don't show themselves

she's like you're the reunion is going to be done at 9 p.m you're not like

like she just she feels like condo advertising i don't know what this girl is trying to pull but yeah it's hilarious when she's like oh my god i'm such a boss babe i've got to go i've got to go this is like crazy like i've got so many things to do today

for my internet ads for the

This season, we met a new housewife who made clear from the get-go that she's a mighty mouse that brings home plenty of cheddar.

But some thought that this no-nonsense businesswoman was a little too plain spoken.

Emphasis on plain.

It's wordplay.

Larsa, I know you were confused.

Could someone spell out the two words for her and explain to Larsa?

So, Stephanie, we got a lot of comments about you flaunting your wealth.

Brantlin on Twitter says, why is my name Brantlin?

It's a stupid name.

Okay, Stephanie seems to be leading with her wealth.

And um,

uh, Lova from Southern Charm says, Stephanie's doing the most every chance she gets, she's talking about her money.

Well, let me explain.

Okay, when a football player wins a Super Bowl, they wear a Super Bowl ring and they walk around and they show the Super Bowl ring.

So, it's kind of like, you know, I've won the old man ball Super Bowl.

Okay, I got the biggest and the oldest old man balls.

I literally fly on them, Andy.

I won.

It's literally like if Taylor Swift gets Jason Kelsey, I got Joe Montana, basically current era Joe Montana.

It's like I literally won so much.

So she says that she's like really proud and he's like, well, you really came in so confidently.

I'm curious, what did you learn about yourself watching the show back?

Well, for sure, I learned that my tone is something that like comes across so harsh.

Why that's not what I truly mean.

But like, listen, Andy, I'm working in a predominantly male-dominated world, and you're not going to get very far in life in that industry being the soft-spoken, quiet one.

Okay.

Those internet ads do not sell themselves.

Sometimes you just got to say, I want 500 CPM, and they just have to listen to you.

But you know what?

My heart is pure, and I love deep.

So I just need to express that.

Okay, Oklahoma from Homo says, would you ever consider hiring the ladies of Shoma and or the ladies at Shoma?

And she's like, oh, I learned with my sisters that women are bitches, so I will never hire another woman in this male-dominated.

No, she doesn't say that.

She's like, no, I'm not going to fuck hire a real fucking housewife.

Are you crazy?

Are you nuts?

So then he's like asking, oh, Marisom, Alexia, you called her bossy.

What kind of boss do you think she would be?

Oh,

demanding one, but that's a good thing, huh?

Yeah.

So then Andy's asking about the rumor that she was hired by his ex-wife to be her assistant.

Oh my God, that's gotten so much traction, just like the runway under my private plane.

Like so many podcasts, like never met.

Okay, first of all, I never met his ex-wife, never worked for her, never her assistant.

She was, they were separate for eight years before anything even happened.

Okay.

Well, Intelli from Jen says, you didn't meet Masood at a basketball game.

You were hired by his ex-wife to be her assistant.

Oh my God.

That is not true, Andy.

That is absolutely, I haven't even met the woman.

I haven't even met her.

And Adriana goes, until recently when we were having lunch and we went to lunch and all of the sudden she froze and she goes, oh my God, oh my God, it's Masood's wife.

She goes, ex-wife.

I was like, I don't want her to yell at me about the fact that I basically tore up her entire swimming pool and moved a little bit farther down the yard.

Oh my God, that'd be so awkward.

Yeah.

So Charlotte from the web says, Stephanie, I've had trouble with my sisters.

Have you made progress with either of them?

She goes, listen, I'm no piece of cake.

I also don't eat pieces of cake.

My sisters do, which is why they're hideous.

And, you know, I've tried with them, but, you know, it's like we speak different languages.

Mine has dollar signs.

Theirs have, you know, IOUs.

So you understand, Andy, they're poor.

Yeah.

And I've learned so much by speaking to Alexia and all the girls have taught me a lot, actually.

And I've tried and there's like not a lot of progress, but I have emailed because I like learned how to do that.

And like, you know, I'm like really hoping that they watch this show because I feel like they'll be able to see that, like, I really, truly care, but they'll also see, like,

look, she has problems with all her friends.

So it's like, they'll see I'm an asshole, but an asshole to everyone.

They're not just like the rest on the receiving end of like targeted asshole behavior.

I think that's really important.

Yeah, like she's the problem, Andy.

That's what she's like saying.

Like, and Curtis, like, yeah, that gets some perspective to say it's not just them.

That's such a

if that winds up being the

conciliatory tone that they, that they need, it's like, no, I want you to know you guys think I'm targeting you.

I'm an asshole to everyone.

That's it.

Don't you want to, don't you want to let this asshole to everyone back into your life?

This person who can't get along with a single person in her own life because she's too much of a douchebag herself.

Don't you want her back in your life?

It's not against you personally.

That shit was golden.

She's so unself-aware.

That was one of my favorite like mental workarounds for why like someone should like resolve their issues.

Like, no, you should get along with me because I'm actually terrible to so many different people.

I think it's actually really important.

All right, Lisa, I have a very important question.

When Jodi referred to AC, was he talking about me?

Does he have any AC, by the way?

I know, I was going to say it's kind of an odd parallel to make, but thinking about

the Griffin allegations from years ago.

Yeah, that's true.

So Lisa's like, oh my God, he was talking about AC means air conditioning.

All right.

Yeah.

We, you know, well, everyone knows that Lisa Oxy lives in Lisa Land.

Lisa World.

Lisa World.

That's my website, Andy.

Okay.

Trying to do an intro here.

Okay.

We wrote it like that for a reason.

Okay.

And by the way, your website is Lisa World.

Okay.

Well, her behavior raised a few eyebrows and more than a few red flags.

Lisa's already lost.

It's a reference to the party you were at.

Remember the party?

No.

Okay.

So he asks, has she listened to what Jodi said about controlling the chaos?

She goes, yeah, I got a therapist.

And like, it's good because like it shows me about time management, you know, because like that really opened my eyes.

I don't want people waiting on me.

Okay, but that took years.

She goes, yeah, but you know what?

I have a problem.

I don't calculate time, but I'm working on it and I take full accountability for that

oh yeah she takes accountability that's great that's really wonderful how she does that okay

this show cracks me up just how the ladies all have something to say on each other's things and i did you notice at one point

like no one shuts up and i noticed at one point that they turn off their mics on this one because on the other ones they never turn off their mic you hear every little thing they whisper but in this one andy will be asking a question and you literally hear people like talking at full voice in the background you do just had to turn off their mics they've just stopped trying to control it speaking of controlled k

it's literally like filming a reunion in a like a food hall it's just nothing but background voices it's like when we do those bonus episodes in the food court or the yeah you know an airplane or like an uh what am i saying an airport or whatever

so um well alexia's nervous party that was a a rough night for you, right?

She's like, oh, she's like, yeah, I was late.

So I had the target on my back from the get-go.

Okay, well, you were not only late.

You were defiant about it.

I wonder if you had fallen on your sword a little bit.

Yeah, well, why would I fall on a sword?

That's stupid.

You'd die.

Okay, well, Stephanie's like, Andy, what, even if she would have walked in and said sorry, done whatever, I still would have been livid because it's like, that's who I am.

I'm like, hilarious.

Will you tell my sisters?

I'm like, so awful to people, that would help a lot.

Thanks.

So she finalized her divorce.

How was the co-parenting?

Martina recently said on Twitter that surrogacy is wrong.

And sometimes you can't have it all.

And I wonder, because both Logan and Elle are born via surrogacy.

So what's your reaction?

She's like, I was shocked.

I couldn't believe it at first.

I had to ask Jody what all those letters meant.

And when he said it was surrogacy, I was like, is this a joke?

I'm surprised that she didn't even retract that.

Oh, she took the comment down.

We had numerous discussions about it.

And I disagree with her 100% with that.

And I got her to agree with this.

Surrogacy is only wrong for trans people.

So

take the olive.

We also, there was also a moment where Lisa was talking about, like, you know, like, is she going to get engaged?

And she's like, well, everyone, big news.

And she puts up her hands, like, look at the ring.

And they're like, oh, oh, my God.

Wait, is there a ring?

She's like, no, but why did you hold up your hands?

I was manifesting.

It's like, you can't do that, Lisa.

You can't hold up your hands like you're engaged.

Oh,

oh, sorry.

That's the goal, Andy.

That's the goal.

Okay.

It's the goal.

All right.

Well, Julia, by the way, obviously we got to see you ask Derek and to be the boy's godfather in Marbea.

Well, most of us got to see it because two of you didn't go.

Anyway,

you asked an old queen to be a godfather.

Did you and Martina ever ask anyone to be the godmother?

No.

And was Adriana ever in contention to be the godmother?

No.

Wow.

Wow.

That is like the deepest dagger in my heart.

That is the deepest dagger.

And Gertie's like, didn't she write two character letters for you?

She goes, exactly, because when they were trying and needed a home study, someone to vouch for them.

And I did it not once, but twice.

And I recorded it with piano behind it.

And I asked you to be the godmother of Baski.

So I could.

Adriana, you're doing so well.

She was doing so well.

She's like, that is so cool.

I was there for you.

I wrote letters for you.

I asked you to be the godmother to my tiny little corny dog.

So unserious.

Julie was like, funny.

That's a little bit different.

That is her baby.

He's my baby.

I love my dog.

I love my dog.

I love my dog.

Oh.

When Julie and Adriana first met, they were so obsessed with each other, they actually got friend gauge.

Which we all saw it coming back then.

But now the honeymoon's over.

So we see some clips of them starting to sour, their friendship starting to sour.

And then we come back to the present.

And Andy says, well, it seems like Mary Sol and Alexia's friendship with Julia was the catalyst for the division in your friendship.

Would you think that's fair?

And Julia's Julia's like, Andy, can I say something to give some clarity?

Don't

he's asking me a question.

He's asking me a question.

Yeah, let me answer a question.

Clarity, clarity, clarity.

Hold on.

I did ask her.

I did ask her.

Well, I feel like when she wanted to be friends with Alexia, I was fine with it.

And Alexia wasn't instigating.

But when Marisol got in the picture, Julia transformed herself.

And she took a dive on the dark side.

I didn't even know who she was.

So yes, there's something underneath it.

Oh, wow.

Blame me for everything.

What am I?

Just a lady with old knees who can't eat pasta for dinner and has to hang out with Steve every year and get married again.

Why don't you take responsibility for your own behavior once, Adriana?

Oh, maybe

enabling her to bring her true self out.

And okay, so Julia finally gets to talk.

And she's like, okay.

I would like to say something that would bring clarity, hopefully, on why we are, where we are, with Adriana, where we are.

In the Hamptons, Adriana and I slept together.

And everyone's like,

in the same bed, right?

You shared a bed.

No, we slept together.

Lesbian, tuna, tuna.

You know what I'm saying?

I love that they show next week and Adriana's going, I didn't Caesar anybody.

This is what you do.

You seduce people.

So

they bang.

So do you think it was just that one time or did they have like an affair?

I don't know.

I think we're going to find out, but apparently.

Did they even do it?

No, it looks.

I read rumors that this is what it was going to be and I didn't believe it.

Oh,

wow.

And that was actually it.

So, but doesn't that even make it worse on Julia's part?

Like you slept with somebody and then you just ghosted them.

That's not cool.

Yeah.

So it makes it complicated.

Well, we're going to find out next week.

It's a good cliffhanger for us.

Thank you, everyone, for being here.

We hope you have a wonderful weekend.

We're back on Monday with Potomac.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's a good one.

Good.

Good night.

Good thing.

Miami reunions always

come strong.

So

we will talk to you.

No penalty.

Nope.

Did not mean that.

We're really not going to be able to get out of this one.

All right, everybody.

Thank you for being with us.

We'll see you next week.

Bye.

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