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So how are you feeling in general?

How's how's live treating you?

Live streaming me very well, et cetera.

Etc.

It's good.

I mean, I think that like,

I feel like on the Bravo front all weekend long, I just feel like I've been talking to people or pondering or watching content about Wendy.

And it's like this scandal has really just,

I don't know, it's really just, I think it's captured a lot of people's attention.

I don't think it's as big as Scandival.

I don't know if we will ever see anything out of Bravo that's as big as that.

But this one, I feel like, does have a bit of that shock factor that we haven't seen since then.

Like this is a real, it's like a shocker.

And what this has, this scandal has going it

as much as scandals have things going for them is that much like scandoval this one broke very early in the season so i think scandoval there had been like maybe three episodes that had already aired of that that season yeah

i don't know but we spent the rest of the season looking for like breadcrumbs and easter eggs and signs and what's gonna be i think really captivating about this season of Potomac is we're gonna obviously be watching it with that POV of like Wendy and Eddie and

like, you know, like the things that they say that are damning, et cetera, the signs that were there under our noses.

So I think, like,

I do think this one has the possibility to snowball in a, in a little bit of a way, but it won't be as big a scandal.

Not that anyone's asking, but no, I don't think it will be.

I mean, now that I've had some time to, you know, think about it, sit with it.

I held space for it.

I sat with it.

But now that I've sat with it,

it's it's not that big of a deal.

Oh, okay.

Well, I mean, look, it's a little insurance fraud.

Sure, they faked a robbery, whatever.

I don't know.

I've, I still believe it's happened so many times on Beverly Hills that they still haven't gotten caught.

And I think the other scandals have been a lot bigger.

You know, we've got the Jen Shaw thing.

That was a huge one.

You know, scandal ball, obviously.

I think that this one is going to be a blip.

I think she'll be able to come back from it.

I think in the bravo, in the bravo world, doing a little insurance fraud isn't that big of a deal.

Team Wendy.

Well, I think, I mean, she will have to, I think, start doing when, when everything play, once everything plays out, there's going to be the book, how I, how I lost, how I lost everything or whatever it is, Zen Wen.

And then she'll go on the book tour.

She'll do the, I got caught up.

This is what I've learned.

And then she'll do motivational speaking.

So I think that will be her path going forward.

But I think what's different from this versus like Teresa or Jen Shaw, for instance, or Erica Girardi, Erica Girardi was a, was a big one, but that was really more of a Tom scandal than an Erica scandal.

But like there was already inklings about Tom.

And the thing is, Jen Shaw was already like, we were like, how does she support this business?

Like

her Shaw squad.

You know, she already seemed like full of bullshit as it was.

And Teresa and Joe, I mean, come on.

Like, we, they already had the thing where like Joe like crashed his car and then drank five shots of whiskey afterwards because he was so shaken up.

Like there's already shadiness surrounding them.

But this, much like Scandival, I feel like this one came out of left field and like surprised, like it shook our very idea of who these people were and are.

And so that's why I think this one is like really fascinating.

And I think it'll be really fun to track over the course of the season.

Yeah, I mean, if you look at their money,

I think one of the reasons it's shocking is because they do seem to be living kind of within their means.

I mean, I know there were a lot of Birkenbags and people have posted clips of, you know, like when she wore the mouglais, the mouglaire dress.

And someone was like, yeah, I hope she didn't return that yet.

You know, NECA was like, I hope she didn't return that one.

You know, little comments that are kind of housewives bread and butter comments that people make, you know, like there's always the housewife that her tags is showing, the Sonia Morgan, and there's always that kind of thing.

But I think aside from that kind of stuff, they seem to be living within their means.

I mean, they live kind of far out of town and they live in a house that I don't think is too ostentatious, really, in the in the housewives.

So

I would like they, they're not like, yes, they're not like super splashy.

It's not like watching Stephanie's Shoujai.

However, I was watching a clip this morning on social media.

Some lady got on to social media and she frosted a cake.

Like the video, the visual was just frosting a cake.

but then she's explaining her theories on Wendy, which I was like, this is a great hook.

Because I'm watching this.

You saw that same one?

Yeah.

I was like, like, wow, I'm like invested.

I'm going to sit here for four minutes and see how this cake turns out, but I'm also going to listen to your theory.

She was doing weird things to the cake, right?

It's like she was putting icing on it.

And then what was she pouring?

Caramel on top.

And then she was pouring icing on top again and then caramel again.

I mean, that's crazy.

Whatever she was doing looked amazing.

You know, I was just, I was in it to see like the way the way she worked that scraper.

But she brought up something that is so, I think,

important in terms of understanding this, which is she brought up a lot of different points.

And, you know, the woman, she said she has, she has African parents and she brought in a lot of theories about like what it's like being raised with a very assertive African mother and the pressure that is to have grades, et cetera.

But like that aside, she did mention, you know,

she has,

Wendy has like five degrees, right?

That comes with a huge amount of student debt.

And then Eddie also is a lawyer.

So that's going to have some student debt.

So the truth is they probably have an enormous amount of debt that is in their life.

Well, we knew that because remember a couple of years ago, there was an article saying they're going to lose everything because they have all this debt and it's all student debt and, you know, this and that.

And so we've known that there's like crushing, crippling debt for a while.

And we're wondering, like, how are they doing it?

But that's why, I guess I'm bringing that up because it's like, it seems like they live within their means.

It's like, yes,

it seems that way, but like, that's that's not taking into account that you have five degrees worth of debt yeah and on top of that this this person was also theorizing you know what like uh there's a lot of pressure to send money back to the family in like nigeria and yada yada i don't i can't speak to that and if that's if that is actually a reality in their life but like that could be something else but like at the very least they definitely have a huge amount of student debt so even them living within their means is still probably them being in the is it the black or the red when are you bank when are you bank when are you in debt red or black whatever color

because i lose on both of them in vegas so i'm not really sure i don't

i think in the red is in debt yeah they're in the red okay

that could be her new i'm not going to comment on that because i don't i don't know that could be her new uh tagline

just because i'm in the red doesn't mean i won't read you

i may be out of the red but i'm still seeing wed

talk to wendy i don't know um but i don't i'm i'm calmed down from this whole thing and i say nothing burger i say free wendy it was barely everyone this is america what's a little insurance what's a little insurance fraud i mean come on this is a merit

let's get over it i just love guys

america i just want you all to know

I'm calmed down.

It's okay.

I'm calm about it.

You know, it's not one of those that's like really sticking in my craw that I'm like, oh my God, I can't believe this about Wendy.

I got over the initial shock and then I was like, meh, you're deciding.

Who hasn't pretended?

But I mean, here's the thing, though.

Here's what the most shocking thing about it is how dumb they are.

Like they were literally so stupid about the crime.

They made no planning.

They went to, I think, were they in Jamaica?

I think they were in Jamaica on vacation.

They were somewhere on vacation.

And they decided to fake this robbery.

So they

reported all the stuff that was missing that was actually returned to stores.

So, first of all, that's extremely stupid.

Like, duh.

I mean, that's an easy thing to follow, especially because receipts are emailed, stuff like that.

Then Eddie sent her an email, an email bin, an email that said, Hey, I need to add more stuff to this list.

Do you have any more high-priced items that we can add to this insurance list?

Because I want to max out the coverage.

I want to max out the policy.

So that was extremely stupid.

they also have ring cams and a security camera nothing was on the ring cams no one was in their house there was no movement in their house so instead what they did was they they bent up a screen from their uh skylight or something and they said that someone came in through the skylight So that's why they weren't on the ring cams.

Okay, well, I hate those parachuting robbers, but don't you even watch like CSI or anything or law and order even?

I mean, if if someone came in through the screen light and stepped onto the toilet, there would be some kind of footprint or debris on the toilet.

And the cops were like, that was a clean toilet.

No one came in there.

And when the cops came in to test it, they've got debris all over the toilet.

So, I mean, just little things like that.

I would think that if you're going to do something for around half a million dollars, if you're going to commit that kind of fraud, that you would make some kind of an effort, you know, like put a Roomba with a wig on and have it move around the house.

Like

Roomba with a wig.

Like do something to make the motion detectors go off.

I'm talking about Shane Simpson.

But you know, the thing is,

also, like, I didn't, I did not know about this skylight thing, but what's also hilarious about it is they,

okay, so a robber

somehow descends on the house.

Maybe a trebuchet flung him onto the roof from the woods.

And he goes into the skylight.

He gathers all these items.

And now this like, you know, the hamburgler with his sack on his back of goods now has to somehow ascend back up through the skylight and get out because like the motion didn't detect anyone coming in or coming out unless that person got all that stuff.

Did like a full-on parasite and went on and just barricaded themselves into the basement.

Like what?

This is so lazy.

I have to say, this does not bode well for cannabis company owners because the only way I can imagine they hatch this plan, these two very smart people,

is that they were high as fuck.

Like, this is a high-ass plan, and they probably did it.

And then they're like, fuck, we just commit an insurance fraud.

Got to commit to the bit now.

Yeah, I guess.

Yeah.

So that was the most shocking part to me was just the lack of art in the

pull-off.

You know, like, where is the art here, people?

Come on.

So,

because there was such a lack of art,

I say those are not career criminals and they should get off.

They should get like a week.

And then they should get an apology from America for making it, for making all these laws that predatory lenders can do this and put you in that kind of debt.

That's what I say.

That's what Wendy should really do.

She should like take that like Luigi Mangioni, like populist ethos and be like, I'm taking it to the insurance companies that are destroying our lives.

That's like an angle she could try to do.

She probably won't succeed.

And student death leaders, that is, that is, they are predatory.

That is a big deal.

Yeah.

I do, when you say that they're not career criminals, is the implication that someone like Joe Judice, if you let him off the hook, he's just going to go back to like shady ass ways where

Joe Judice is a career criminal.

Yeah, he's like, that guy is just gonna that guy is gonna do something shady right no matter what.

You keep him out of the general population for as long as possible.

But like

Wendy and Eddie, they are bumbling academics who

did not do this.

Wendy is just a girl who wanted all these degrees, then didn't want to do any of those jobs.

I mean, really with all of those degrees, she was like, I don't want a job that has to do with any of these degrees.

I want to be an influencer and a YouTuber and sell candles.

And I think that that's the American dream and we should support that.

You know, they were just trying to get out of a little debt.

Come on.

I'm just a girl standing in front of a boy asking him to commit insurance fraud for me by denting the skylight.

The screen of the skylight.

The screen of the skylight.

Oh my God.

Did you dent the screen of the skylight?

Okay, we're safe.

We're safe.

Nailed it.

But then there are other things like they were supposed to speak at a like criminal justice justice type event where it was about um

you know laws that affect cannabis sale i mean something like that you know and then there was another thing posted where they

the day of the robbery let me look at this i i found it on reddit

um the this is from bravo real house while it's on reddit it says wendy used bonnie and clyde by jay-z for her instagram post the same day that she called the police um her and eddie are dressed up for some of that day, quoting Bunny Glenn.

I mean,

there are just so many things like that that are,

I mean, you put your hand on your face, you know, you put your hand on your face and you just shake your head.

Wow.

But then we move into episodes like today.

And look, there are no clues, right?

Because this was kind of a

one-time that we know of type deal where they just did something stupid.

But so I'm not really looking for clues, but it is awkward watching the show because like today she has a whole scene with

Stacy.

I almost called her breathy.

That's not nice.

I'm not going to do that.

The show is not going to make me

bully Stacy over her breath.

But anyway, she had that whole scene where she's like, is she lying?

Is she lying?

Is she lying?

Is she, she's always lying.

I'm trying to trust her, but she's always lying, lying, lying, lying, lying, lying, lying.

And, you know, that makes it a little more awkward, I guess.

A little cringy.

Cringy.

Well, let's get into it.

This episode is episode two of season 10, and it's called Mint to be Shady.

So

Potomac is up to these.

Oh, by the way, another thing.

Sorry, one last thing is that people were posting clips from season five after the famous Monique and Candace fight where Wendy was like lecturing Monique.

And now people are like.

Monique, your time has come.

You get to turn the tables right onto Wendy.

So that'll be interesting if that happens.

Oh, where she was saying, I hold people accountable.

I don't care who you are.

I'm the accountability queen.

Okay, so here we are at Ashley's second Bloom Paul.

Okay, so she's fighting with Stacey and she's saying, you're a full-grown woman and you came into this group and misrepresented yourself.

And she's like, and you are a messy devil.

You're a devil.

But you misrepresented herself.

Sorry, I just burped in my middle of my Ashley line.

i got possessed by a demon what's wrong with you you're you're you're gonna and now you're gonna make fun of stacy's wrath all day

it was a coffee burp which yes probably smelled bad um stacey goes you are the devil now she goes stop lying so then aj is there that's uh stacy's friend he's like okay so the way you guys want to be amicable and be good girlfriends is for her to show that she's been divorced even though i mean she's like she's back with him right that's what you want and tia's like well she doesn't even want to feel like she's been lied to.

Oh, and by the way, I feel like all this Wendy talk, we did not really address for me what was the big headline, which is how much I love Tia.

And I just think this is a great casting choice.

I love an uppity British housewife.

Good job, Potomac.

Yeah, I love her.

I love her voice.

Yeah.

It's perfect.

It's so good to be in this group.

I don't know what anybody's even saying.

I don't understand any of these terms we're using.

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Hey, Jay, and here we are.

Three months have passed and you've magically gotten back together with your ex-husband.

Ashley, you are such a fucking hypocrite.

What about all of this Michael Darby crap that we've been dealing with from you for years?

You're leaving him.

You're not leaving him.

You're divorcing him.

You haven't filed for divorce.

So much, even, even this latest thing with you dating Beavis and then pretending that you're single to go on Love Hotel to get that check.

And then we come back and, oh, you're still dating Beavis.

You are such a fucking liar.

I can't believe that Ashley, of all people, and also to be coming after someone's breath, you've had Michael Darby in your mouth for over a decade.

No one has more disgusting shit in their mouth than you.

I cannot believe you are coming.

And no one has more disgusting shit coming out of their mouth than you.

We've heard your singing all over the clips on the internet and the television, ma'am.

We've stayed.

You're totally alone.

Yeah, I totally agree.

Also, she's right.

She's completely right.

So Ashley's like, so your hand's like very blingy.

Like, what's going on with the hand?

And Sathe's like, yeah, well, my ex-husband and I are trying to work it out.

And that's fine.

So Ashley is like, ma'am, the math is not mathing.

I'm like, that's what I often say about why you're dating these old trolls like Ralph and Michael.

The math is not mathing for me.

It does not make any sense.

I know.

I like that.

I wish that every time she said something about Stacy's breath, we just got, you know, clips of her making out with Michael and making out with Ralph and all of these gross dudes, you know?

So Giselle's like, do I think Stacy is divorced?

No.

Do I think Stacey wants us to think she filed for a divorce and now she's back with her husband?

Didn't you just have a whole fake storyline to pretend pretend that you got back with your husband two years ago because you had nothing going on in your life ma'am

did you or did you not this cast they are such hypocrites giselle and ashley are the biggest hypocrites and i will not believe it i believe from now to here forth i

i declare that stacy has minty fresh breath and these people are just lying i don't believe a thing they're saying i don't i

believe what they're saying they just might not be the best messengers for the story.

I mean, look, they're basically.

Well, let's get back to shooting the messengers.

I think that messengers deserve some shit.

I think that they are just like, be original.

Like, I already faked getting back with my husband.

You can't come and do that.

And Ash is like, I already faked divorcing.

Like, you can't do that.

Come with something new, Stacey.

So

AJ is basically like, okay,

Stacey's next plot is selling kangaroo meat.

That would be really strong.

No, I hope

her next plot is selling little caps that say, like, not embellish, but maybe like bellish.

But Robin's not even around to trigger, you know?

It'll still be fun.

But maybe she'll sell a candle.

So I hope that's a good idea.

I hope she paints her living room a really terrible shade of purple.

Like Giselle.

Yeah, I hope she takes a perfectly cute.

older house and does like Winchester mystery house things to it.

So Ashley is saying, Principle is very important to me, and we can be a lot of things, but we can't be liars.

Oh, yeah.

When I look at Michael Darby, I say, look at that principled man.

Now I see why she fell for him.

A very principled gollom.

You know, to go after that ring lying for your principle.

Sorry, say it again.

Sorry, I thought you're to go after that ring requires a lot of principle.

I mean, you don't just like go to Mordor without principles.

Okay.

And it wasn't too long ago that Ashley was lying for Gollum in his sexual assault case against the cameraman.

So

shut up.

So, then Kierana is like,

well, when he comes to me, I meet you with vulnerability.

And in my mind, I'm like, okay, maybe she's talking to Wendy.

And she's like, Wendy may be socially awkward when I see her in public, or I'm missing something here.

And Wendy is just so bored already with Kierana and her tri-fight.

She's just like, okay,

so just to show you how we have different ways in which we friend, you're saying if I'm on stage, I should wave.

And then you say, for the NAACP, I didn't know if I was coming.

Well, you know what?

I didn't because my kids were sick.

And I actually told them that.

I said, maybe I can speak at your event and maybe I can't.

What kind of event is this?

That they don't just replace somebody if they can't speak.

They're just like, hey, we're having an event.

Speak if you can.

Speak if you can.

I don't.

I do not believe for one second Wendy is going to skip an NAACP event.

for like her kids being under the weather.

This is not like going to the opening of like Mia's joint chiropractic.

NAACP is a major influential organization.

Wendy is there with bells on.

She's getting it.

Her sister's coming in.

Her mom's coming in.

Someone's taking care of those kids.

Wendy is not missing.

Yeah, Wendy lives for that.

Yeah, Wendy lives for that type of stuff.

I think she probably said that to Kierna, like, well, I don't know if I'm going.

Maybe I'm going.

Maybe I'm not.

Because she knew that Kierna was going to be like, oh my God, we should go together.

Why don't we go together in the same car and then we'll enter together and all this.

And Wendy's like, you're not taking my red carpet moment and my limo.

Sorry.

Wendy's like, I like, I don't, I don't think Wendy gets down with Kierana.

I think Wendy's, Wendy probably assumed, like many people, that Kieran was like a one and done housewife and is like, I don't want to like, like, I don't really like you like that.

Like, we were friends on the show.

It was cute, but like, no, I, I think I, I think I want to be aware of that.

You might be taking my spotlight.

I'm not sharing my spotlight at this event.

Yeah.

And now she's like, really?

Oh, this is going to be my lot in life this season.

I'm going to be stuck feuding with Kierna.

They gave me a JV fight.

Oh, geez.

Yeah.

She's so annoyed.

And even Angel.

She's like, I better commit some insurance fraud to get something more exciting going on here.

And even Angel, who was brought on by Kierna, I was like, oh, yeah, maybe there was just some miscommunication.

She's like, no, I'm being gaslighted.

And, you know, she's acting all of a sudden like, this is in my head.

And Wendy's just like, where does Stacey go?

Can we just talk about breath?

I would, I would really, I would really prefer if we, can we just talk about cementos?

You're so above the things that I'm saying, Wendy.

And Wendy's like, I don't care.

So Ashley sits down and

she asks if they've made any progress.

And Karen's like, well, we've made progress, but it's the same thing.

Wendy apologized.

I just feel like it's just a bit dismissive in the moment.

And it's like, yeah, because you're, first of all, she's wearing it.

Wendy's wearing an enormous dress and she probably wants to be walking around and showing it off.

And she's stuck having an argument with you when you came and interrupted her and then said that she was rude for not acknowledging you when you interrupted her.

And now you're like hashing out the fact that like she didn't wave to you from stage while she was speaking, which is really one of the most ludicrous requests that we've ever heard on these shows.

So yeah, like, yeah, I think that Wendy does feel a bit like above right now.

Yeah, so the girls all start to gather around and Wendy's like, okay, look, Angel, welcome.

Tia, welcome.

Listen, I just wear a big whoop and I want all of us to flow.

And Ashley's like, yeah, you know, well, Stacy's lying.

And didn't you tell me that Stacy told you that she has a charade and she doesn't want to drop the charade?

And Kieran is like, yeah, she did tell me that in Lake Norman.

That's what she said.

So now she's coming for Stacy, Kieran.

So Stacy's like, what did I say to you?

She goes, yeah, in Lake Norman, you were talking to TJ in the room.

And I said, Stacey, are you ever going to show the girls exactly who you were like and like kind of break character?

And you said, oh, absolutely not.

Which.

I have to imagine if that did happen, Stacy was like,

no.

Like, meaning not like, oh absolutely not i've got to cover up is like a joke like these bitches i'm i'm being careful around them right which i think is like a pretty okay thing to joke about or say or even be say it seriously like i'm gonna be careful i don't think she was saying i have a secret self and i'm gonna keep it hidden and no one's gonna know about it but i'm telling you that i have it like she's really she's munching on the arm of a baby she's like

no i'm not gonna bring that on stage you know what i'm gonna i'm gonna do what i want off camera on camera i'll be somewhat different

and eating babies and you know setting small towns afire like what what is she like off camera that's so completely different and kierana aren't you the one who just got a condo to film in so you didn't have to show your boyfriend you fakey and trying to fake a breakup because you want everyone to think you broke up so he doesn't have to come on camera so you're not lying for the cameras this cat this is what's making me crazy every single person that's coming for her is a total hypocrite but that's always what potomac has been like you like you have to actually kind of embrace that because that's what's so funny about this show.

They're always hypocrites.

Karen Huger, I mean, she started this tone 10 years ago of like, I'm the grand dome.

And she's like, not the grand domes of anything.

She's all about etiquette.

Like, you know, and she's like, excuse me, she brought Wi-Fi to Surrey County.

So I think you need to get some goddamn respect in your tone.

She's the queen of the dubious claim.

Like, that's what this show is all about.

Hypocritical people who, rather than looking inward, just like attack others because

they

are all like, it's like crabs in a bucket, which is geographically appropriate.

Now, I've been sticking up for Stacy, but, you know, here's where Stacey goes wrong.

Stacy's always coming in here like, well, she never answers the question.

Never.

Whenever somebody brings something up, she never just answers it.

She says things like, well, every time we have an interaction with each other, you seem to come from a place of negativity and aggression.

She's like, oh, Stacy, just stop it.

She's like, well, you always want to fight.

She goes, oh, really?

If I want to fight, you know, I know how to fight Stacey.

So don't do that.

Oh, really?

Last time you fought, you cried about a scar and were suing somebody for two.

You were suing a Muppet for two years.

So don't act like you're some big toughie who's always wanting to fight.

Well, last time she was, it's just funny that she does reference it.

Like, yeah, remember

I held my own in that fight.

Whereas last season, as you as you alluded to like when the fighting was brought up she started to cry about how traumatic it was and like yeah both things can be true but it is funny how this season her vibe is more like oh i'm standing in it now so stacy is like oh i know you can fight i know you can i've seen it i've seen it carries like don't do that you don't do that you know that

and age and then angel's like well she's not a negative person at all okay she's not and tia's like she doesn't strike me as negative at all all.

Just stupid and American, as most of you are.

She doesn't strike me as negative, maybe financially.

But, you know, bank account-wise.

She just seems like she carries the trauma of having to have worn a polo shirt at one point for a boyfriend's company.

I just get that vibe about her.

I get Polyester.

Polyester, I'm sensing.

So Angel, she jumps in and goes, I'm standing up for my friend of 20 years.

And as we all know, since she brought me onto the show, this will be the end of our friendship.

So we're in our kind of victory lap before I turn on her, which will happen before the end of this episode.

Thank you.

Yeah, 100%.

But also, she's like, she's not a negative person.

She's the one who is just saying, I can get in a fight.

Whatever.

I'm like debating, is that negative?

I don't know.

I'm playing with the phone case.

Okay, Christina, edit back in now.

Edit back in now.

I'm not paying, I'm just making stupid points.

While I'm like, wow, wow, this phone case is actually too big.

I waited for a month for this thing.

Don't be.

Now who's negative?

So Stacey says, she's like, well, I don't understand why this group of women has suddenly turned against me.

Quite frankly, I am being unjustly beat down.

And this is why I love Stacey.

Like, I just love how she just has this.

Why me?

What could I have possibly done?

It's like, you lied on the reunion.

I say this as a Stacey fan, but you lied.

About what?

You blatantly lied.

About what?

And everything about like TJ.

I mean, she was clearly paying TJ.

She really was.

You think she paid TJ to do this show?

You think she had like a contract and she paid TJ to do this show?

Oh, no, no.

I'm sorry.

It's not about, I'm sorry.

I really, I actually kind of like just blurred it out.

I meant more like it was fake.

That relationship was fake for TV.

I don't know that, I don't think there was a contract in all that.

I think what TJ, I think they're both liars.

I think TJ.

TJ is making this.

But I'm saying, I don't know why I said that she paid.

I meant more like it was blatantly a fake, fake relationship for tv and i think that now like i don't think she got divorced from her from her husband and i think that they are like i don't know i i do think that she's full of like everything she says is very slippery in a way that i love by the way i love it like this is my favorite type of housewife yeah i just i don't think i don't think she's done anything to the other women Really, I think all that stuff is kind of innocent, especially when they're all faking stuff.

Ashley, Giselle, they've all fake stuff.

So I just don't, I don't know.

She hasn't done anything mean to the women.

I think she's been fine to all the women, and they're just coming for her.

I don't think it's cool to come for her.

I'll say, I don't know.

I think they should come for her right now.

You could say that about any of them.

They should just have a natural, like, wait till something's natural.

I mean, don't come back being like, Oh, I'm going to get the girl for faking a relationship when you've been faking shit for years, Giselle.

Ashley,

I still live in the trauma of um season eight,

and uh, i'm okay with them coming from stacy because i have i i i will never forget that that awful awful season that like nearly tanked potomac like that actually tainted potomac for a moment like potomac was considered an an elite housewives up there with salt lake city and miami and that tainted it brought it down but i think potomac is like is pretty much like back up there but it's like it's still a little tainted a little tainted Yeah, but then it started getting better when she came on in season nine, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I'm saying like, I I don't want to see them sitting around because I'm afraid that they might not be able to pull it off.

Yeah.

I don't know if they could pull off the sitting around vibe.

I guess I just, I guess I just wish there was stuff going on where they didn't have to make up stupid, insipid things to come after each other for.

But I guess, you know, maybe I need a different show.

So

or a different

genre, different network.

You want to watch like.

PBS or.

Yeah, basically I'm Team Stacey.

I don't think she did anything.

I don't mind when they come for somebody who did something something wrong, but I don't think she's done anything.

So I say leave her alone.

So Giselle's like, well, I want to talk to Cookie.

Yeah.

So we go talk to Cookie.

She of the best nails on Bravo.

I love Cookie's nails.

So she goes to talk to Cookie and they're talking about Karen and they're going to get together to do something for Karen for her birthday.

And then back on the couch, Wendy is saying, okay, well, Kiona still can't start a fight to save a life.

So Tia, tell me about you and she's like um okay

um well I'm royalty my grandfather is a prince in Nigeria and uh Kieran is like oh my god Wendy's Nigerian oh are you a Nigerian as well oh hello always nice to meet a peasant you've paid your taxes eh

so they do a high five and then Stacey goes okay well I know you guys don't want to hear this but I'm Nigerian too.

Just look at Stacey like

okay Stacey.

I was so excited.

Benjy tells us, I was so excited when my mom told me about my Nigerian heritage and Wendy's Nigerian.

And now I find out that Tia's Nigerian as well.

I think I may have found my sisters.

And they're like, Wendy just goes,

child, no comment.

That has historically not worked out all that well on this show.

NECA versus Wendy.

I don't know.

I don't know that I'd be trying to make an inroad with that one.

So Ash is is like, hold on.

By the way, Wendy is nice to Tia because Tia

is royalty.

And Khalida has no interest whatsoever in befriending Wendy.

It's like when the people are like

trying to get in with Wendy because they like know her from something, she's like, uh-uh, I don't know you.

Like, Angel and of course, NECA.

But Tia's like, yes, I'm Nigerian.

And I'm from a higher station in life.

So lovely to see you.

It's so amazing that I can be so much better than you in two countries.

Were you raised with Rolls-Royces also?

No?

Oh,

that's terrible.

When we have insurance claims, they're real.

Okay, everybody.

Sorry to interrupt you, but there's a special performance.

It's an Ashley party, so there will be some vagina flapping.

Let's bring out a stripper to this extremely classy party.

I'm sorry.

A burlesque.

A burlesque performer.

Well, actually, I don't know if this is burlesque because she kind of acts like she's going to do burlesque, but then she does like drag queen stripper slaps on the floor, like with her, with her poo-poo, you know, slaps.

Burlesque.

I didn't really know what this was.

It didn't seem to match the party at all.

And I just thought it was funny that they're in this like suburban event space with a staircase.

And this like burlesque person comes out and like does a strip tease, takes off almost all their clothes.

And everyone's like, woo!

And it like makes no, it doesn't have anything to do with the bloom, a first bloom, a second bloom, or any bloom.

And it's just there.

It's just

a person taking off their clothes.

And everyone's grossed out, except, of course, Ashley, who's like, whoo!

And everybody's like, disgusting.

And Stacey's like, what happened to her clothes?

Is she Nigerian too?

Another sister.

And

so she's dancing around.

And Wendy's like, oh, I see puss.

I see puss.

So none of them really approve of this,

but whatever.

Karen is like, wow, she's definitely in bloom.

So now let's go to the gym with Angel.

Angel's trying to decide whether or not she should get BBLs because now that she's on the, back on the East Coast, she sees BBLs galore.

And her trainer's like, yeah, no.

No.

Yeah.

It's sort of funny to think of like.

The

holistic lady who's going to have sound bass, but she's also going to get a BBL.

It's funny to think about, but it's not inconceivable.

We've seen that in Los Angeles.

It's just a very funny thing.

It's like the natural and the unnatural come together in one beautiful yin-yang twin.

Yeah.

So then

Kierna is

at her place and she's doing a leading a meeting and she's gonna be doing a billboard, which is exciting.

And then Wendy's talking to her.

This dog, I have to say, this dog was really a real ham.

Okay.

We were having a really strong week of like big personality dogs because the dog psychic on Orange County really was an amazing scene.

Like, I really, I keep on looking at the picture of Crew sitting on that sofa staring at the dog psychic, just like waiting to be read.

Like, that's like one of my favorite images I've seen in a while.

And so now we have this dog, which is, this dog was basically, I have to imagine, Ronnie, it was you and me as like kids when like there's a dinner party, right?

You know, when there's a dinner party and like you slink out and like you be, you do like a performance for the adults.

And that's what this dog was doing when Wendy came came down the stairs.

And you're behaving and I'm biting your face and running in circles around you.

Yeah, it makes sense.

This dog was no, but this dog was like rolling around.

It was definitely trying to get some screen time and it succeeded.

Yeah.

And

Zoe, well, no, that's then Wen the third.

And she's a handful.

She said she's completely destroyed Zoe's life.

It just cuts to the dog, like biting Zoe's face, trying to play.

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So then we get clips of the poop dog poop party party where the dogs were pooping every place.

And guess who's here?

It's Stacy.

And Wendy's like, I wore a wampa just for you.

She goes, oh, so many memories of you saying, not a romper.

That was so fun.

Literally no memories of that.

And Stacy says, despite what happened at the reunion, I actually really like Wendy because the producer said I should.

So we see that they were like, you know, like when Wendy was the one who broke the news about TJ and how Stacy was like, no, no like you're a liar so they had some friction then but everything's okay now and she says I do care about Wendy and I want to make sure I'm honest and up with her at least there's one level-headed person in this group

and she's my sister

so they go sit on the back porch and neither one of them knows how to open a bottle of champagne which is

well It's not only that.

It's like Stacy is saying, normally I know how to open it, but it doesn't have all this foil on it.

So I'm just going to put it down.

I'm like,

I'm just going to, I'm going to say something wild here.

It's a little out of the box.

I don't, I'm going to do a hot take.

I know people are like, man, always says, like, you know, he's always so nice.

I'm going to say something wild.

Take the foil off and then see if you can pop the cork and see if that makes a difference.

Cause I don't know.

I kind of think that's going to, I think that's going to be like the game changers, taking the foil off, right?

Yeah.

This was weird.

And Wendy's like, I don't know how to do it with Eddie.

Eddie does that.

Okay.

When did we get to the point where we think it's like fun?

It's like a funny personality quirk to not know how to open a fucking bottle.

Come on.

Yeah.

So she's like, we are women in 2025.

We can do it.

We can't do this.

We can't do this.

Let's just drink water.

So they have some water.

Wendy clearly still does not like her.

She's just looking at her like, why are you on my tiny deck?

Why?

Well, I wanted to talk to you about that.

You know, Ashley invited me to go shopping.

And within a minute of arriving, she was screaming at me, telling me that she'd seen receipts.

She was holding a baseball bat, threatening to beat me.

She held a box cutter to my throat.

It's like, uh.

I don't know that this is really an accurate description of what went down, Stacey.

She was screaming at me.

She just wouldn't stop screaming.

And then it cuts to Ashley being like, I was at the Easter luncheon.

And there was not screaming.

And Wendy's like, Wendy asks, are there receipts?

And Stacey goes, I mean, I don't even know what to say to that.

Cause I can't, I can't defend myself against things that I don't even know what they're talking about.

And it's very revealing of who she is, which is, I love this dodge that Stacey keeps on doing because she's not saying like, yes, there are receipts or no, there are receipts.

Like,

basically, Wendy's like, can you pull up documentation that you got divorced?

And Stacey is acting like, you can't pull up documentation about like something that makes no sense.

It's like, no, she's saying, because she's saying that Ashley said at the store that she saw legal documents proving that TJ is a plaintiff against her.

And she's like, she's saying she has receipts.

And Wendy says, but are there receipts?

And she's like, but I don't know.

I can't defend myself if I don't even know what you're talking about.

Meaning like, I don't know what receipts she means.

If she doesn't show me the receipts, I can't say whether or not there's receipts.

Which is still a dodge.

It is still the Stacey Dodge.

Yeah, that's what I was saying.

But like, she just never answers a question.

Like, are there receipts?

How do I know if there's receipts if I don't know what you're talking about?

You have to tell me what store it's from first.

So then there's like the wind chimes make noise.

And she goes, you see that?

That was the spirit.

You see the spirit?

Oh, a lot has happened since then.

She gets really freaked out by the wind chime.

It's very callback to me of being like is that your mama remember when they saw the crow

that's right

so um

we see uh the wedding ring that stacy's wearing and wendy's like wait a minute are you engaged and she's like i'm back with my husband and wendy is just like oh jesus she's just giving her this look like oh hell no she looks away like i can't even look at this

So Wendy's like, yeah, you know, if she's going to be anything, be serious.

Like, Stacey, what is this?

I have so many questions, but we're working on a relationship.

So I'm not going to say too much.

I mean, but

what is this?

And what?

What's wrong?

She goes, look, I'm for team marriage, but this is a complete 180.

I mean, it seems like conveniently, now that the girls are on to you, now we're getting back together.

We're not getting married next week.

And we're trying to work this out.

There are a lot of things that are being said about me that are lies.

Giselle said that I had something called happy Stacey.

And we see reunion where Giselle brought that out.

And she says, I have a cannabis line that is coming out.

And, you know, the talks to be in this line, they did not start until March of this year.

And it's called Very Enthused Stacy.

So, oh, so Giselle was right.

No, no, because I didn't have a cannabis line when we did the reunion.

That was one of many meetings regarding brand partnerships that I had.

There was one for a three and a half wick candle there was one for really just that just a three and a half wick candle and you know getting in this business had nothing to do with you or eddie although i i did hire someone named smetty to be my spokesperson but that's totally up someone approached me and wanted to have a cannabis line called eddie is happy with stacy and so what are you gonna do and she's like well wait you went into business before you came into the group and so wendy says a a few months before the reunion, Eddie and her were told that Stacy was going around the cannabis community saying that she wanted to start a cannabis line like Happy Eddie.

And

so then Giselle sees somebody at the Bloom Party.

We see a flashback and Giselle's like, hi.

And Terrence says, you remember me?

I'm the guy Stacy approached.

People on Potomac are so messy.

These extras will just show up anywhere and be like, hi, I'm the messy extra.

Want a scene?

Yeah.

And Giselle's like, oh, you are the one that said to her, why would I want to partner with you?

Who are you?

He's like, yeah.

I will say this.

I don't think it's like a crime against humanity to be like, ooh, I would love to get into cannabis.

I like the way Eddie's doing it.

Like the happy Eddie, that's great.

Like, I would love to do something like that.

I don't think that's wrong.

to be inspired by other people's businesses.

If someone said, oh, I want to start a podcast, like I want like to do something like watch for crap-ins, I'd be like, okay, cool.

I wouldn't be like, well,

as far as i can can tell um we were doing it first so you're like a bit of a copcat like no like you know people are allowed to be inspired by other people's businesses and things that they do it's allowed it's okay yeah but stacy should have just said at the reunion when she said you're gonna have a happy eddie she should say well someone approached me about doing a cannabis line and i don't know i'm i'm talking to them about it instead of being like oh what

That is absolutely not true today, but it will be tomorrow when I sign the contract.

100% she should have.

She should have.

Why does it keep happening to Wendy?

I mean, Wendy doesn't have a string of successful businesses to copy.

Like, I understand why it happens on something like New York with Bethany.

Remember when Bethany had her very successful alcohol line that she sold for zillions of dollars?

And then Sonia wanted one that was kind of like that.

And that became a big deal on that.

But at least you're stealing something that's already successful.

I mean, Karen was trying to steal the candles.

That wasn't some successful thing.

And now she's got Stacy trying to sell her steel, her weed.

Why, why is everybody trying to steal ideas from Wendy?

Because Wendy's ideas are inherently unoriginal.

And so it's like, it's, it's like being like, why is everyone stealing all the clip art that Wendy's using?

It's like, because it's clip art.

Everyone has access to the old-timey finger pointing.

You know, it's like, like, oh, going, like you're, you're going into candles.

or cannabis.

Like these are things that people are like, you know what?

I should do?

I should go into candles or cannabis.

It's like not crazy.

It's, you know, when you watch like Shark Tank, there's so many like, this is a new dog dog food.

That's absolutely natural.

It's like, yeah, like a lot of people came up with that idea and continue to come up with it.

It's like kind of an me.

I don't, cannabis, I think, is harder, but I think like coming up with a candle is like kind of

cannabis is harder.

I mean, I'm a collab.

It's not like they have their own weed farm and they're, you know, I just filled with a successful weed company and slapping their name on it.

Like, you know, most, most

camera products are crying out loud.

But like, I also think that

I just don't know in terms of like, is cannabis like highly regulated,

highly prized and highly regulated in a way that like maybe candle making is not.

Like it might be a little easier to slap your name onto some sort of candle collab.

I don't know.

But I just think the reason why Wendy, people are quote unquote stealing from Wendy is that she doesn't have any high concept ideas.

They're just basic

things that just sort of float through that you might see on Shark Tank or something like that.

And oh my God, what if we turn on TV and

next time we watch CNN, Stacey's one of the commentators?

Now that's

something.

That would be good.

Making political commentary.

That would be pretty good.

I'm just here to talk about the Middle East.

Why is everybody so mean to each other?

I don't understand how it has to be this way.

So when

Yahoo just said I had bad breath.

That's not very nice.

Wow, it's really becoming an international issue, huh?

So Wendy is saying, I just want to say I wish you nothing but success.

And she's like, well, I have to go to the bathroom.

What do you go in the bathroom for you pregnant?

Which is like such a that's such a leap.

that Wendy, like Wendy just inserting that in there out of nowhere.

Like I think, I think people are allowed to to go to the bathroom without the insinuation that they're pregnant

yeah but the whole thing about stacy is that she's got this breath that is probably from starvation let's face it it's probably from like fasting or just eating meat or something you know like a meat-only diet or something you know we've all had we've all had those moments so uh wendy's probably like you're gonna go your brains out from a zempic

I think that's why I think that's why Wendy is like, why are you going to the bathroom now?

You know, I think she's, she's, everything Stacy does is looked at as sketchy by these women and i think she's like oh really

so now you're gonna go have water poop okay

go enjoy

the facilities now you're starting rumors well i know she ain't bringing i know she ain't bringing tj around for her just to check to just to get back with a man oh my god so now we go to tia's house we have our first tia home scene And her daughters are arguing about how to make a charcuterie board.

So like already off to a great start.

Like we've got some rich kids who, this is like their concern.

It's not like past the

Nintendo controller.

It's like, no,

the prosciutto goes on the left.

This is how to raise your children right here.

This is how you do it.

This is how to do it.

They need, they cannot leave this house until they understand how to make a charcuterie board.

That's it.

Yeah.

Oh, you did a very good job.

Thank you guys.

This is better than what I would do.

Just kidding.

Princess knows how to make a charcuterie board.

Hopefully you washed your hands.

So, Giselle comes over and meets the kids.

And she's like, oh, you're twins.

I know.

You know, I have some twins.

And both of them are like, we don't care.

So Tia's like, I've got loads of kids.

So Tiana's the eldest.

Alexis is my gangster.

And Nathaniel and Amaris are the twins.

I met Giselle socially.

I handed her my coat.

It's not funny.

And she said, ooh, don't put that in my arms.

They're tired from dealing with twins.

I said, oh, you understand about twins.

Well, I'm sorry about your mattress.

She goes, no, I actually gave birth to them.

I said, oh,

well, I guess you survived that.

We can sort of be friends.

So she introduces her to Rob.

And Rob's kind of hot now.

Yeah, Rob's pretty cute.

By the way,

two very hot new husbands on this show right now.

You got to really credit these guys.

Yeah.

So the kids are in a hurry.

And I like that Tia's like, okay, kids, you shot with me, but I think we're going to have some charcuterie.

I know you're in a hurry to leave kids, aren't you?

And Giselle is like, where are you going?

She's like, to the mall.

She goes, oh, really?

What are we doing, guy?

We're Ubering, Ubering to the Mall, ah.

And she's like, no.

Their father's driving them.

She has a chauffeur.

Literally, he's the chauffeur.

I married him just so I could get a discount on the the rides, but literally just a chauffeur.

Rob and I, we've been married for 17 years.

He grew up in Southside Chicago, wherever that is, and I grew up with the cook.

We had a steward, he had a driver.

We had a driver, and even now, years on, we've been a good balance for each other.

I'm incredibly wealthy, and he does things for me.

So my lifestyle hasn't changed, and he just works a little bit harder.

So she says that he is from Southside Chicago, and she's rich.

And she's like, and we we somehow uh be a good balance for each other i have bags and he balanced them on his wrist

uh so she says her dog thinks he's human and um the kid is like yeah uh my mom just got that dog because she was on sale she's like what the

And she's like, I mean, I don't really even like her that much, but she's okay.

No one likes this discount dog that's there.

So Tia walks in, like, oh, have you found the cheap dog?

Well, Tia, you've outdone yourself.

Have I?

That was a rhetorical question.

Of course I have.

I'm a princess.

So

she says her name is Tinukab, which is her Yoruba name.

Do you want to know what it means?

It means pampered from my mother's womb.

Pampered from your mother's womb.

I see.

I was born in Lagos, Nigeria.

I was raised in England.

The Nigerian culture and the English culture are very similar, in that they're both much more sophisticated than the Americans.

England I love because of family.

Nigeria is the best place to go to party.

I just kind of do the circuit, so I've got this happy bounce at the moment.

Then every now and then I come to America and tell Rob to drive me somewhere.

And when I feel fulfilled from that, I go back to England.

It's wonderful.

So she's like, I don't do errands.

I'm just used to having a driver, although I'm not about to be somebody's driver.

Like, I'm not going to get haggard because I have children.

I'm not going to get driving wrinkles.

Driving wrinkles.

So you're a husband's the nanny, yeah.

Yes, and I'm saying that without sarcasm.

I told you that because I don't want him to ask for a raise in his lounge.

Growing up, I was handed everything.

Oh, could you hand me that cheese, dear?

See?

And it's important to show my children that I can work and make a living.

I just choose not to.

Which is why I'm a real estate advisor.

I walk in front of homes and I say things like, I love the Kerber Peel.

Let's show a clip of me doing just that, shall we?

The clip comes on and she's like, I love the Kerber Peel.

You know, us English like to sit up high now, so I love how this is a high house.

But that being said,

no one...

In the UK would ever live in a trash dump like this Potomac domicile.

Okay, anyway, enough work for me for today.

Where's Rob with the car?

So Tia says that she loves being a mom.

She's like, I mean, you know, I love being, look at me loving being a mom.

Okay, daughter, come down the staircase.

What's wrong with your face?

Smile.

It wasn't like that when I gave birth to you.

Now get back to your charcuterie arranging lessons.

I love to spend time with my children.

I also like to spend time without my children.

So, Giselle asked what her husband does and he's in sales and acquisitions for a massive aeronautical company and giselle's like that's impressive he's a nerd

yes he's a nerd actually a nerve with

a commercial driving license you never know when you're gonna need it

Sales and acquisitions for a major company.

I'm looking forward to that embezzlement storyline in about two and a half to three years.

So buckling up.

Aeronautical embezzlement.

Yep.

So Giselle loves nerds and they're going to introduce him to Wendy's husband, also a huge nerd, apparently.

How is her husband a nerd?

What did Wendy...

Wendy's husband's a lawyer, right?

Yeah.

I mean, he's, he's like, he's smart.

So therefore, that counts as being a nerd in Giselle's eyes.

I also, I feel like being in sales and acquisitions for an aeronautical company does not make you a nerd.

I think it's like designing the aeronautical stuff.

You're an engineer that makes you a nerd.

But the, you're basically just like a corporate person selling things.

Like Giselle just heard aeronautical.

I was like, ooh, a nerd.

No.

He goes to space.

Ah, that's astronaut.

What

Earth looked like from the moon.

So Giselle says, we'll introduce him to Wendy's husband.

And Tia says, this is not the paid for husband.

This is the real husband.

What does that mean?

I think maybe it's like it's a reference to Stacey and TJ.

Oh,

I see.

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