#3051 RHOC S19E16 Part Two: Watch Your Tulip

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This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, well, go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe so that way you always get your episodes.

Speaker 2 But enough of that. Let's get right back into the episode.

Speaker 1 So now they go back to the hotel to change in bathing suits. And Jen's like, oh, I just can't wait to put on a bathing suit.
Shannon's like, oh, yeah, a bathing suit and the hot tub.

Speaker 1 Oh, sounds darling.

Speaker 2 Hello, sir, who is our captain who won't be in our boat with us? That's real safe. So is the water, is the water, is it, is this safe water or is it, does it come from the river? Is it full of muck?

Speaker 2 Is it full of people throwing up because they've had too much space cake?

Speaker 1 A lot of carbs. A lot of carbs in this river from carb vomit.

Speaker 1 I've got a blister. I got a blister on my toe, sir.
It's a crock pot. Just get in there.
It's going to slowly cook us until we're dead. We're having housewives for dinner.

Speaker 1 So Emily,

Speaker 1 I just want to make an announcement to what you're about to say, Roddy. I got very funny baseball caps for us all to wear.

Speaker 1 I'm so hilarious. I just want everybody to know I can be crass and useless in multiple countries.
Here are your disgusting hats. So she passes around these baseball caps and one's like, I love cock.

Speaker 1 They're not even subtle caps. Wrong hole and I like it.
And Shannon says, moister than an oyster. And Emily or Heather sees these.

Speaker 1 And she's like, well, I know why they think that I'm not funny, because this is not funny. So if this is the kind of sense of humor you're looking for, you will not find that at the Groundlings.

Speaker 2 Thank you. No, I was being serious, Alfredo.

Speaker 1 This is not funny.

Speaker 1 I am not moister than an oyster.

Speaker 1 Clearly, she's not. She's wrapped in Spanks.

Speaker 1 Wouldn't Spanks make you more moist?

Speaker 1 I mean, just in general, I don't know about

Speaker 2 disease, but I think if I were in Spanks, I'd have a lot of more moistness on.

Speaker 2 I'd have a higher degree of moistitude on my body.

Speaker 2 Please stop saying that because everyone knows I hate that word moist.

Speaker 1 No one likes the word moist.

Speaker 2 And I'll tell you who hates it the most:

Speaker 1 Barbara.

Speaker 2 It's her name, right?

Speaker 1 Barbara.

Speaker 1 So one hot tub, floating hot tub thing is going to be Emily, Gretchen, and Tamara. Okay.
And of course, Emily's the one who divides up the boats and

Speaker 1 makes the most dramatic boat she can. And Gretchen's like, oh, this is a death trap.

Speaker 1 And then Emily is saying, this is my last try. Once this crockpot comes to land, I'm done.

Speaker 1 So now Shannon is holding her foot out like, I don't want my blister touching the water. Woo-hoo-hoo!

Speaker 1 Am I falling off the boat? Where's my blister? I don't want to to wait. I don't want to wait for this blister to get infected.
I'm leaving my ankle outside the crock pot just to be safe.

Speaker 2 Space cake, everyone. I apologize.

Speaker 1 So Shannon is designated the one who is going to drive the boat because, you know, she's from a boat family and everybody fucking knows it. And Tamara is driving her boat.

Speaker 1 And so it becomes like a race on a very slow, you know, too slow moving hot tub things in the water. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And Shannon's being all cartoonish about the way she like controls the rudder. I don't think it needs that much body language, but she's like flopping herself all around.

Speaker 2 She's also like dangling off the side of it. For someone who is so scared about

Speaker 2 getting her toe in dirty water, I mean, she is like one millimeter from going overboard. I was actually quite concerned about her, but she's all on the side there.

Speaker 1 She's like, oh, look at me.

Speaker 2 I'm wacky. But then somehow she still winds up crashing her hot tub into a boat.
And if I were that boat owner, I would not be happy at all.

Speaker 2 Maybe I'm just like used to below deck where like any small thing hits the hole. You're like, that's $1 million worth of damage.
But I was like,

Speaker 1 this is, don't do that.

Speaker 2 Don't crash your hot tub into someone's nice boat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this isn't just the corner of a house to clip. Okay.
This is a bigger deal, ma'am.

Speaker 2 It's a house boat.

Speaker 1 I know. I love that every season now, Shanna's just going to clip something.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Driving something drunkenly. It's just going to be her new thing.

Speaker 2 So Shadow's like, oh, I'm a boater.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 I'm sorry, sir. I'm sorry for clipping your boat, but oh, oh,

Speaker 2 did he just smile at me?

Speaker 2 Is that my new boyfriend? No. Oh, he is just actually giving me the finger.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.

Speaker 2 Good day to you, sir.

Speaker 1 Gina's like, oh, wow. Now we're driving.
Now we're cooking with gas. That's a show with the Groundlings.
Thank you for the shout out.

Speaker 1 Well, I understand the concept of this person didn't do anything to me. You know, whatever her name is, Denise.

Speaker 1 but i just thought things were different i thought things were different with her because in her conversations with me um she doesn't really seem to be friends with alexis and then we see a clip of shannon asking her about alexis and jen being like oh i don't even see alexis shannon and i don't think i'm going to go to her wedding shannon because i know that i know what that would do to us and i'm telling you the truth on that shannon i'm telling you the truth So Jen is being a little slippery on this front, but at the same time, she's still not planning to go to the wedding regardless.

Speaker 2 And as we found out, she actually had her invitation revoked so it's not even an issue because she wasn't there after alexis had surgery

Speaker 1 she didn't probably god knows what surgery it was but alexis is like yeah i had surgery and jen wasn't there so unfortunately she was disinvited to the wedding of the century so i hope she can learn her lesson and one day we can come back and be real friends again someday someday So Jen's like, well, whenever I met Alexis last year, you and I weren't like we are now.

Speaker 1 And if you say it hurts when when I'm with her, you know, I can hear that.

Speaker 2 Well, I'm not saying don't be friends. I'm saying if you had to choose between her and me, you'd choose me, right?

Speaker 2 I'm just saying lines were crossed, and it doesn't mean that I have to listen to it.

Speaker 1 I just, I just wonder why you think she's so great. I mean, last time I checked, she didn't throw you a bridal shower, right?

Speaker 2 Last time I checked, she didn't get you a nice cake that said, congrats on your upcoming nuptials, Cynthia.

Speaker 1 But that's okay.

Speaker 2 I mean, we all have different ways we show up for our friends if we are, in fact, friends in the first place.

Speaker 1 And like you said, Jen being slippery, I do think that Jen kind of is full of shit a lot of times because she says right now, does Alexis talk to me about Shannon? No, no, of course not.

Speaker 1 And I wouldn't be comfortable with that. I don't believe you.
What else is Alexis going to talk to you about?

Speaker 1 I don't think Alexis talks to anybody on that show and doesn't bring up Shannon every five seconds. That's just not how life works.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 And so then they're driving by the boat and Shannon goes, wait, wait a second.

Speaker 2 Does that boat say Jansen?

Speaker 1 Is that, wait, is that John Jansen's son? Hi, it's Shannon. Remember me?

Speaker 2 I was, I was the, the woman that your father jilted and ruined and then sued, which is hilarious because I was the one who was left with nothing.

Speaker 1 But anyway, and I paid for everything. I actually paid for your boat.
So hi, good to see you.

Speaker 2 Oh, you know what? That is actually a potted plant. It's some tulips.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 All right. Moving on.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay. Now we're at the other one.
So Gretchen, is there anything you'd like to say to Tamrill? Because she's open to listening. So say, fight, do something.

Speaker 1 I don't want to have to do something on this show. Do you guys want me to pull a chicken sandwich out of my purse? I'll do it.

Speaker 1 Talk loud because I got the edgy by my ear. I can't have my little power play.
I can't hear you, Gretchen.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 Tamara's like, no, I don't want to say nothing. Well, Gretchen, is there anything you want to say? Oh, okay.
Tamara said she'd listen. She told me.
Well, talk loud, yeah. Talk loud.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, I know you probably won't be receptive to this. Why would you say that? You say, you start off with a dignity comment what am i supposed to say about it

Speaker 1 however because i messed up and i feel really bad about it now

Speaker 1 yeah but i thought we agreed to not stop talking about it we we agreed that no more remember yeah yeah i messed it up i really i messed it up and i feel bad slade told me i should feel bad and i feel bad about it now oh my gosh she feels

Speaker 1 Okay, so I can hear that across the canal.

Speaker 1 All right, then what was your intention with the charity thing? Because you and Slade came at me and then heckled me and stuff.

Speaker 1 Don't go here as used to getting heckled as Heather, okay? But you're not Reba McIntyre and I'm not Heather DeBrow.

Speaker 1 Um, well, I mean, that's because, however, it's because everyone was saying you were going around and telling them something about Slade, and I just was like really upset about it.

Speaker 1 Well, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 1 It's because people knew that she had had a conversation with Katie, and so people were just asking what happened, you know, of Of course, Emily bringing it to her own thing.

Speaker 1 It's like, yeah, I mean, I think she's really hurt because you guys had a pact and you breached the pact.

Speaker 1 And I messed up. And like, I just felt justified at the time.
And I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying that I messed up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but sometimes you think it's okay for you to do stuff and like just because Tamara does and it's like a never-ending cycle, okay?

Speaker 1 Well, so am I just supposed to like not do anything no matter what she says? I'm assuring you, I've known tamara for a long time and in the past three years she has not said one word about you

Speaker 1 okay or you haven't been listening let's be honest yeah and so gretchen's like emily's a flip-flopper i mean what the hell why am i the only one that's being singled out and she's right because emily has been talking her up like this whole time, you know, so now it's two hours earlier and Gretchen's like, well, I said I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 And then she came in and started screaming and said, fuck you. So I guess I'm a little anxious to try that again.
And Emily's like yeah tamara lives in code red time all the time

Speaker 2 and so and then gretchen's saying that she decided to get in the hot tub because she just wants to move forward but she also is like yeah but they are the those two women are the most aggressive to me so i don't know if it was the best decision So Gretchen's telling Emily, like, you know, just, just because she hasn't said it to you, Emily, doesn't mean she hasn't said it to other people, hasn't talked about me to other people.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like, well, you know, I mean, come on, that's not the the right attitude. And Tara's like, I don't talk about you.
You're not even relevant.

Speaker 2 Oh my god, I don't think that boat ride's going good.

Speaker 2 They might as well just pull the plug out of the bottom and sink the boat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, look at Gretchen's hands. They're like going like crazy.
And she's like, oh, I can't give you 20% off. I can't give you 20% off.
I won't give you 20% off with that attitude.

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Speaker 1 Okay, there you go.

Speaker 1 Gretchen, you have to recognize your part and how we got into this because you have also perpetuated this stuff. You've also said things and I've repeated them every single time.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but the way that I see it is that if someone asks me a question, I answer it honestly and Christianly. So maybe I need to look at that a little bit.

Speaker 1 I just need to look at being less of a child of Jesus and more of a Satan's child to fit in with the rest of you. I don't think Gretchen like words it like, oh, I'm just sorry.
I'm so honest.

Speaker 1 Maybe I need to learn to lie more to be around you guys.

Speaker 2 They always play the honest card. I mean, Gina just did it like five seconds ago.

Speaker 1 I was being honest. So Emily's like, what if she said, hey, Tamara, what if she were more introspective and recognized that she was actually fueling the fire?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that would really help if you said that. She never expected me to do, bitch.
And she's like, well, maybe I need to take a look at it because I don't want to keep doing it.

Speaker 1 And maybe I'm doing it unknowingly.

Speaker 1 Wow,

Speaker 1 that's the best thing you ever said to me, Batch.

Speaker 1 Right there.

Speaker 1 Wow. It's a breakthrough for five seconds before I get mad at you later.

Speaker 1 Come here, this is green. No more.
No more. I'm sick of this shirt.
I'm sick of it. You get rid of it, bitch.
She's like, okay, I agree. I hope we both can do it all, and not just me.

Speaker 2 So the producer says, are you hopeful?

Speaker 1 It's like, not even a little bit. Had I felt like there was a change, it would have been when she supposedly welcomed Jesus Christ into her heart, but it didn't happen then.

Speaker 1 So, you really think I'm going to think she's changed now?

Speaker 2 I mean, I appreciate her calling out Tamara's, you know, baptism hypocrisy, but,

Speaker 1 you know, people

Speaker 1 changing without becoming also Brethren.

Speaker 1 Yeah, people, yeah, they're, I like that whole thing: like, well, without religion, how would you know that murder's bad?

Speaker 2 Uh,

Speaker 2 it's like,

Speaker 2 well, if she didn't change when she had Jesus into real life, she'll never change for the rest of her life. Yeah, so, um,

Speaker 1 so now they're parking the jacuzzi and they go back to the hotel, and uh, Tamara's made up with Heather, so she's immediately got a gen headline ready.

Speaker 1 I mean, Tamara is like, she's a pro, you gotta hand it to her. She's like, okay, that's everything solved that one.
Okay, we need the next chapter. We still got half an episode left.

Speaker 1 Oh, hey, look, I got my iHeart notification because we get headlines, and then iHeart chooses what headline they're going to to put on the podcast. Since yeah, this one's about you.
Whoops.

Speaker 1 We'll do something.

Speaker 2 Now keep in mind, everyone, the

Speaker 2 show, the season began with Tamara being furious at Katie because of talk that Tam, like, you know, Katie was talking to too many podcasters and talking to too many content creators and like spreading, you know, untruths or whatever.

Speaker 2 And now here comes Tamara, you know, basically brazenly announcing that she's going to be talking about one of her cast members on a podcast. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, at least I will say for Tamara, at least she's doing it to Joan's face. And it's a headline that's already out there from In Touch magazine.

Speaker 1 And she's giving her a chance to like, at least comment on it.

Speaker 2 Which is admirable, but it's also funny because Tamara, this is Tamara's sly way of being like,

Speaker 2 look, it's a producer sent this to me. So now I've got to talk about it.
You know, because Tamara can also say, I don't want to talk about my current cast member.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 She could just do that.

Speaker 2 But she's presenting it under this veneer of being like a caring and considerate friend.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So the headline is from In Touch.
Real Housewives of Orange County's Jennifer Pedrante ordered to pay six-figure judgment after allegedly failing to pay rent.

Speaker 1 And so she's like, yeah, I mean, that's the same judgment as it was last year. We did a modified rent plan during COVID, but now we're back in full business and the money is owed back.

Speaker 1 Parking lots do not pay themselves. Okay.
So that's what it is. It's like, oh, okay.
See, you sure's nothing more? It's like, no, I mean, it's bad. We're broke and we owe a a lot of money.

Speaker 1 What do you want from me? Okay, but but you don't owe it? No, I do owe it, Tamara. I do.
So you're going to prison? I could go to prison.

Speaker 1 Tamara wants something more, but Jen's just like, no, here's the honest truth. Ah, damn it.
All right. I'm going to have to get back on the phone and find something else.

Speaker 1 So they get to Vans and Elma's like, hey, Tammers, what's on your phone?

Speaker 2 Well, Jen was ordered to pay judgment after allegedly failing to pay rent on the studio.

Speaker 2 Jen's like, well, you know, when Tamara shows that she has concerns for me, I don't know how to feel about it.

Speaker 2 There are moments I feel like Tamara generally wants something good for me, but it never lasts.

Speaker 1 Oh, that was an interesting insight, Jen. But this is another reason why she has to be smarter.

Speaker 1 This is why Jen has to be smarter about her Instagram and setting herself up because she's got big girl issues. And that's not just a reference to her former fatty photo.

Speaker 1 Lawsuits and owing money. That's a big deal.
When you have big girl issues and people coming after you for money, you've got to get yourself up financially. So earn those $3 from Instagram.

Speaker 1 Yeah, instead of spending all your time with the Eric from Threed's company, maybe you should go to school and get a job. Oh, excuse me.
Excuse me.

Speaker 1 This is Vicki, Vicki Govison here. Get a job.
Get a job. Okay.
Yeah, she couldn't have been so much better off right now.

Speaker 1 She could have been so much better off five years into this if she had just gotten a job.

Speaker 2 That's, that's, that's hilarious on this show saying that.

Speaker 1 So, um, Shannon's like, oh, she's still, well, she does have a job now because she's a podcaster and she sells that weed stuff, stuff, that the CBD things.

Speaker 1 But yeah, in general on this show, when they're, when they chide each other over jobs is pretty, I know.

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 2 So Shannon's like,

Speaker 2 so what happened, Emily, in your boat? Did you have a nice time? We had, I had a lovely time with mine. I was with

Speaker 2 Gina and also, what's her name?

Speaker 2 Jamari?

Speaker 1 Is that her name?

Speaker 2 I don't know if I know who she is, but she's lovely and she's my best friend.

Speaker 1 So then in the other band, Gina is like, oh my God, you guys sounded like you were hot.

Speaker 1 What were you hot about? Gretchen's crying and Heather's like, whoa, Gretchen, why are you crying? Uh-oh. Something's coming out of Gretchen.
She's like,

Speaker 1 there's just been so much hurt over the years, and I don't want to be the person that you guys are seeing right now. And I'm wondering if something came out online that she saw.

Speaker 1 Like, I wonder if something was released of like an article about all of her tweets or whatever it was. Cause it is kind of weird that she's like, all of a sudden, like, oh, shit.

Speaker 1 And she's just crying and like not going to show up today.

Speaker 2 That's a great theory.

Speaker 1 That's a great theory. So how does it work? It's a common.

Speaker 2 It's coming. So you see that you guys are both hurting each other, right?

Speaker 2 You see that, right? It's like when I catch Alfredo and Alfredo throwing my noble balls at each other for the restaurant, not for playtime.

Speaker 1 That's what I would say.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 like I see that, but like,

Speaker 1 I just don't know what I'm doing, and I don't want to be that person. I don't want to hurt nobody.
I think it's a defense mechanism. And Heather's like, whoa, wow.

Speaker 1 The fact that you're saying what you're saying is super impressed. There were at least four three-syllable words in there.

Speaker 2 At her core, Gretchen is a really sweet girl, and I definitely won't regret saying this. I never heard her trash people.

Speaker 2 We've always had a very nice relationship, and it's nice to know that we can come to the end of the season on that lovely note between us.

Speaker 1 She's not an evil menace, so I feel bad that she's going through this.

Speaker 2 When I see her, I don't say my turn, still me. I say our turn, still us.

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Speaker 1 See, I don't, I think Heather has gotten so good at this.

Speaker 1 I think Heather's gotten so good at this. I think, of course, Heather knows all of this stuff.
I think she's really buttering up the audience. Like, oh, Gretchen, what a sweet person.

Speaker 1 She would never do anything. Here I am standing up for Gretchen constantly.

Speaker 2 So she probably recorded this bit like three months later after she already knew about this.

Speaker 2 And she's, and she's like, yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to really show America how, how my heart is open to this woman who's about to hurt me.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So Gretchen cries.

Speaker 1 So they go back to the hotel room and and uh jen calls ryan and shows her hat and it's hers says throat goat and he's like wow love your hat honey got a heart on she's like well gina said that i think when you deep throat you i think it means like when you deep throat you sound like a goat that's what the hat means honey of course gina would think that

Speaker 1 wait what does goat mean So Shannon's like,

Speaker 2 Adeline, hi, this is your mother calling. I have an emergency.
I can't walk. Today may be the last day that I have my toe.

Speaker 1 I may have to have it amputated. Adeline, do you have anything, any last words for my toe?

Speaker 2 Please, this is the last time you'll get to see it on the plus side. I will be about three ounces lighter.

Speaker 1 So, you know, take it where you can get it. Dear toe, sorry you're not her head.
Love Adeline.

Speaker 2 Wow, that was a bit, I think that was a bit crass, Adeline. I am your mother after all.
I mean, I did bring you into this world.

Speaker 1 Space cakes.

Speaker 1 So then Emily leaves a voicemail and she's like, hi, Luke. I miss you.
I'll be home in three days, but I need you to be good. Okay.
Be good, Luke. Be good.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Except she's, she's like, very like, I'll be home in three more days.

Speaker 1 I need you to be good, Luke. Okay.

Speaker 2 I love that she's like, well, I don't know why he's, I don't know why he always acts like a little baby when he's around me.

Speaker 2 And then she's like leaving voicemails for him like, would you be a good boy?

Speaker 1 You to be a good boy. So then like in the middle of the night.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 2 Then Heather FaceTimes terry uh about going to ace's game she's like uh he's like wow i'm gonna sit in the bleachers me

Speaker 2 terry debrow sitting in the bleachers

Speaker 2 terry's a dad that spends time with the children and knows them and that's so sweet i've never done that if it doesn't take place in the penthouse i'm not going but my dad was a great provider but we didn't have that close a relationship i realize now how grateful and lucky i am having grown up with a father who was emotionally distant and I never really knew where I stood with him but that's the thing about generational trauma you you just have to get through it

Speaker 1 so Terry when you are sitting in the bleachers with the less privileged do they recognize you Terry and he's like how come on when Pete when don't people recognize me I mean if people don't recognize me did it even happen if they don't know Terry Dubrow are they even alive

Speaker 2 you are television's Terry DeBrow. If they don't recognize you, you make sure they recognize you.
Bring a billboard next time.

Speaker 1 Right down the street from me, like right when you turn to come to my house, there's a billboard for happy place, ribbon McIntyre. And I crack up every time.
Every time I pass it, I'm like, Bitch,

Speaker 2 she never had me on Happy's Place, and I thought she was a friend.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 miserable witch's place.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 they just did a drink

Speaker 2 so back to the lobby so heather in an attempt to also be fun she goes by the way okay time to go to the next destination we are missing jen and gretchers

Speaker 2 gretchers it is very fun to add an ers at the end let me try this one wenders that's for wendy mallet because i don't know she has a friend to do that for her

Speaker 1 Sorry, that one doesn't really ring. Loser.
That's good. That's good for Wendy.
Someone pass it on. Pass that on.

Speaker 1 So they get no sprinter vans. And Gina's talking about how Gretchen just doesn't feel good on the bus and she doesn't know if she's going to come.
And, oh no, what's wrong with Gretchers?

Speaker 1 And 10 minutes earlier, Jen's asking her, What's wrong? And she's like, I don't know. I just can't stop crying.
But where does that come from? All the years? All the pain? All the hating of Tamara?

Speaker 1 What is it? Yeah, I mean, all of that. All of that.

Speaker 1 So Jen's like, yeah, she's very emotional. And I feel that, what?

Speaker 1 What's emotional about stupid people?

Speaker 2 Oh my god, Tamara, don't take it immediately as an attack on you.

Speaker 1 Don't react. Don't react.

Speaker 2 Be like Wendy Malik in an acting scene. Don't react.

Speaker 1 What you're going to do was open your mouth and step out.

Speaker 1 Oh my God, look at the name of that restaurant. Look at that name of the restaurant.
Meet the ball.

Speaker 2 So they're walking around a food hall and Tamara goes, I feel like we're at the ball.

Speaker 1 We are.

Speaker 2 Except I don't see my mural of my tree with my children in it. Oh, I thought you said the mall house.
No, we're at an actual mall. Yes, yes, we are there.

Speaker 1 I love that Amsterdam's like, look, we do not have very many rules here and people can get pretty wild, but we are not going to have real housewives filming in our restaurants.

Speaker 1 Have fun at food courts. Okay.

Speaker 2 This is the fourth food court they've been to, I think.

Speaker 2 And it's like, so we carry our own trays. Is that how it works? I'm not sure.
I thought it was called an entree, not our tray.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Is this called an on the rich person tray? Because that's what it is.
I don't appreciate this. Okay, this is me, Heather Dubrow, actor for the people.

Speaker 1 May we please get a classic hot dog and onion rings, please. People will love that because I famously didn't let my husband order them for a...
A

Speaker 1 sorry, a ranch party that we had one time. So look at me.
fun, fun Heather Dubrow.

Speaker 2 Wait a moment. There is a look, there's a sign.
And oh, it's a very hilarious and funny sign. And it's what I'm going to say to Terry.
It says, it's boom, boom, sausage time.

Speaker 2 Again, from the top, it's boom, boom, sausage time.

Speaker 2 Okay, let me, let me, I, I said it's boom, boom. sausage time.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 1 Alfredo couldn't pedumcha while he was holding my tray. Unfortunately, Alfredo, pick up my Linguini that you dropped.

Speaker 1 We're shenanigans.

Speaker 1 Emily. I'm the nickname person.
We're shenanigans. Sheena's like, I'm excited.

Speaker 1 Please stop trying to steal my name for your show because I'm going to be a future housewife forge county and I'm going to have something to say about this next year. Corner.

Speaker 2 Kikimoni cannot like help me come up with the name shenanigans. and the fact that you're just like taking it is like a real issue.
I think we have to send her back down to Orange County.

Speaker 1 Sheenani, Sheena Anigains.

Speaker 2 Sheena Anigans.

Speaker 2 So Shannon and Jen are like doing a wacky dance through the food hall. Like they're windmilling their arms around.

Speaker 2 I think they're trying to do like a callback to Shannon's synchronized swimming bit, which I think they're really trying to make that happen.

Speaker 2 And I'm going to say this right now, even as a big Shannon Medor fan, that's not going to happen.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 that was never fun. So then we have a scene of Jen trying to set Shannon up with the 20-year-old bartender.
And then the women gather at the table and Heather's like, I ordered some spring rolls.

Speaker 1 They're coming up, everybody.

Speaker 1 Right after winter.

Speaker 2 Apparently, that's when you take your Alfredo, roll him in a carpet, and send him down a hill in the spring. Spring rolls.
It's so fun.

Speaker 1 I'm really bugged now. I'm really bugged.
I'm not going to say anything to her. I'm just bugged about Gretchen.
I'm just bugged. Well, Gretchen was very upset.
She was upset.

Speaker 1 Oh, you think she went back to Slade? Well, when you're that emotional, you call your husband. Just like when I found out what Boom Boom Sausage was, Terry was the first person on the horn.

Speaker 1 All right, ladies.

Speaker 2 Boom, boom, sausage. So great.
I almost went and called Drake, but then I remembered that we hadn't actually met yet. But in my mind, I think that we're best friends and we exchanged numbers.

Speaker 2 So I just, I just texted it to a random person on the book.

Speaker 1 So Gretchen,

Speaker 1 Gretchen, FaceTime.

Speaker 2 We see Gretchen at home, FaceTiming Slade.

Speaker 1 She's like, Hi, Slade. I had a little meltdown.
I'm trying to move forward. I really am.
He's like, you know what?

Speaker 2 With everything that's happened in the past, you should just, I know, at this point, let it go. There's obviously emotional issues on both sides.

Speaker 2 And if she's willing to work things out, I know for a fact that you'd have an interest in doing that too.

Speaker 1 And this is where I said, oh, this is, they know what's coming. They're Because even for Slade to be like, oh, you know what, honey? Forgive, forget.
It's Tamara. Welcome her.
Welcome her.

Speaker 1 Reach out those beautiful arms of yours and just give Tamara a hug. I was like, oh, the producers warned them or it came out on Instagram or something because she knows what's coming for sure.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's a, I think that's, you really picked up on that. See, you know,

Speaker 2 you're really good at that, Ronnie. You're really good at it.
I was like, oh, I was like, that's strange.

Speaker 1 Well, I was like, All you have to say is people on housewives are liars.

Speaker 1 You win. Yeah.
You get it right.

Speaker 2 Gina is back at the food hall. Gina's like, you know, I've always tried to get Gretchen to see who?

Speaker 1 Who?

Speaker 1 How? Gretchen's.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 2 To see her side of things, and she never sees it. Like in that bus, she did.
I'm telling you right now, she saw it, Tamra. And I'm telling you, Tamra.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, no, it was genuine. It was like genuine.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was when performance is. No, you want to talk about performative.
You'll come to cooking with gas on Thursdays at the Groundlings. Now, do you think she feels picked on like the new kid in town?

Speaker 1 I don't want to pretend like she's a good person. I'm not going to do it.
But I told her she should come. Should I not tell her she should come? Because it feels like maybe she shouldn't come.

Speaker 1 I mean, I did tell her about Boom Boom Sausage.

Speaker 1 I love that you told her about that.

Speaker 2 I love that that's our thing now.

Speaker 1 That's our thing, right?

Speaker 2 God, I love being carefree.

Speaker 1 So what are you such good friends with other?

Speaker 2 If you ever come for me and my boom boom sausage again, it will cost you a lot, Emily Simpson.

Speaker 1 So Gretchen comes in. She's like, oh, I'm only two hours late, but I made it.

Speaker 1 So everyone's kind of tense because they were just talking shit about her.

Speaker 1 Are you okay, Gretras? Are you okay, Gretras?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm okay.

Speaker 1 I'm glad you're here because I almost had to do something for the show, but now I'm glad that other people can yell at you.

Speaker 2 By the way, what did you think about Tamara being pissy before Gretchen got there?

Speaker 2 When, you know, that Tamara didn't like that Gretchen was feeling emotional and that Gretchen was like having a moment. Do you think that Tamara was like, oh, this is bullshit?

Speaker 2 She's trying to make herself seem like a victim here and like get like curry favor. Or do you think Tamara was just like

Speaker 2 being classically Tamara unhinged?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think she was like, oh, here's Gretchen acting like I victimized her again.

Speaker 1 You know, like she said, we're made up but now she's gonna act like a big victim like i did something to her in that hot tub right you know because no one else was there so gretchen could say whatever she wants right

Speaker 2 so um so gina's like she's like sitting across from emily and she's like yeah like ask her ask gretchen how she's doing like ask her how she if you want to talk about or not he asked gretchen if she thinks that shannon and jen have a good friendship he asked gretchen do you think that like shannon should throw me a party because i like moved in with travis wait this feels awkward why do i have to do it?

Speaker 1 Because I already said, how are you doing? Okay, then Tamara should do it. You do it, Tamara.

Speaker 1 So Gratza. Wait, what are you guys looking at?

Speaker 2 Well, I mean, everybody asked about you, and I said she needs a minute, and she's upset.

Speaker 2 And, you know, it takes a long time and a lot of Aquana to get your hair in that, you know, like Darth Vader, blonde dot Darth Vader shape.

Speaker 2 So like, you know, I was just trying to explain and explain your absence.

Speaker 1 Grudgers, do you want to talk about it? Come on, Grudgers. like no

Speaker 1 well i guess she needs time to process uh so jen's like okay well what's the emotion lots of pain i hate this back and forth timber's like but we stopped it and you just started to back up so you can't say you hate it when you were the one who engaged in it come on

Speaker 2 but she apologized

Speaker 2 sausage today she did

Speaker 1 what about yesterday what about day four all you have to say

Speaker 2 she apologized at self-defense so there was that too.

Speaker 1 Remember that? Anyway. But she's still in it.

Speaker 2 She's still in it. I'm not saying that it was good what she did.
I'm not saying it's good that she said you slept with Nelson,

Speaker 2 but she apologized.

Speaker 1 I knew a feeling it's never going to be resolved. Well, you guys, you agreed in the crock pot to stop talking about each other.
So what happened about that?

Speaker 1 She's like, well, I mean, it was so long ago, but it doesn't really matter because those emotions don't disappear, you know, and I was hoping that maybe we could be like, looking back, I shouldn't have done these things.

Speaker 1 I shouldn't have said these things, you know. And Shanna's like, I can sympathize with Gretchen because sometimes you want an apology, but the apology has to be authentic.

Speaker 1 And I've been in that situation where I just think I'm just never going to get anything authentic from Tamara. And then she grabs my boobs and puts a napkin in my choat and we're back to square one.

Speaker 2 God, we have so much fun.

Speaker 1 Okay, everyone here has to be accountable for their part in this feud well however i absolutely want to be accountable for that and if you feel like i've been bashing you for 12 years i'm sorry for that tamara tamara's like

Speaker 2 yeah i know we talked about it earlier i'm like well okay tamara's being a little annoying to me okay i understand why she was annoyed at gretchen because it seems like gretchen was gonna be try to make herself the whole victim in this and get sympathy But now, Tamara is like,

Speaker 2 Gretchen comes in here and

Speaker 2 Tamara is like,

Speaker 2 goes back to, you started it, you started it. After they had allegedly like put down their arms.
So now she's gone back to you started it, you started it. And now she's going to do a reverse.

Speaker 2 I'm being like, we already talked about this. We already settled it.
I'm like, what? You can't, which way are you going to go, Tamra? You're driving me nuts right now.

Speaker 1 It's like, what? But I think she's speaking for the audience too, because I'm like, oh my God, why are we talking about this again? And it's like, shut up. And Tamara's like,

Speaker 1 we got to go over it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but that's because Tamara went back to it. I mean,

Speaker 2 I'm not exonerating.

Speaker 2 I'm not saying that Gretchen is like that, that Tamara doesn't have a right to be annoyed at Gretchen for trying to garner sympathy, but Tamara is the one who went right back to it and said, well, you started it, bitch.

Speaker 2 It's like, you guys just resolved this in those stupid boats. And now you're going back to it.

Speaker 2 And now when Gretchen's now attempting to apologize or take some accountability, now you're being like, whatever, I don't want to hear it because we already talked about this.

Speaker 1 I'm like, oh, God.

Speaker 1 Stop.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 it's just like a circle. They're just grasping for straws.
They've got nothing, basically, is what's happening. So Tamara's like, oh, my God, we agreed to not say anything.

Speaker 1 And now you want more apologies. And she's like, well, I don't want this.

Speaker 1 Then we'll be stuck in the same place. Yeah, because you guys keep bringing it to the same place.

Speaker 1 So they keep kind of going in circles with this whole thing. And they're saying that maybe Gretchen is just releasing all this emotion of all these years.
And that's why she's emotional.

Speaker 1 So they just leave it at that. But now it's the next day.
We get very serious music. And Gina and Emily are in bed bed together.

Speaker 1 And Emily's like, well, I just have a hard time with Gretchen because there's times when I find her to be endearing. And then, you know, like she takes a look at herself,

Speaker 1 which I appreciate. And Gina's like, yeah, but that's why I'm struggling because like I, the person in front of me, I like,

Speaker 1 I'm starting to think, is she this other person? Like the post, the social media.

Speaker 1 I can't get it out of my head, Emily, which is why I haven't brought it up for the three weeks that I've known about it. I know.

Speaker 2 You know what I can't get out of my head? Why Gina, for some reason, is in full drag makeup sitting on this bed. I was like, what is going on? She's got like the lion outlines on her lips.

Speaker 2 She's got like the heavy blush. I'm like, are you guys, what's the next event you two are going to?

Speaker 2 So Gina says, about two weeks ago, I was at the dispensary with Tamra and she brought up these incredibly alarming posts that Gretchen had liked. So we see Tamra.

Speaker 2 She just is like, hey, look at this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, go fat, my fat.

Speaker 2 And she basically shows the post.

Speaker 2 We have to assume very heavily, it's the post where Gretchen famously liked anti-trans and homophobic they were homophobic posts too right I mean it's all the same not the same but it's like similar

Speaker 1 and so Gina is like it's so awful and Emily's like I think that's like why I'm short with her because like I know about it you know so it's hard for me to like recover from that like but you guys didn't You guys are still waiting like two weeks to like

Speaker 2 like for these people who like love to brandish the honesty flag they are like okay this is a really shitty terrible thing that gretchen did but you guys are going to just like wait two weeks on it and then use it as like a plot device i was like okay sure

Speaker 1 yeah i mean again like you knew first tamara knows about this stuff and she's going to make them bring it up because tamara's like well if i bring it up everyone's going to call me a bitch but then they never bring it up and then they wait and then they're like well we're desperate we're bringing it up you know we have nothing if they're if gretchen's not going to fight with tamara anymore then we need something else.

Speaker 1 Let's bring in the big guns.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And so they're basically saying, yeah, basically like, oh, yeah.
How do you have a hard time believing that's who Gretchen is? How could you? She's in Fox News cosplay

Speaker 1 literally every day. Like, how is this surprising?

Speaker 2 And she and Emily's like a family prayer before going up to Heather's house.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 She's like, well, I just live by the rule of the innocent until proven guilty. And at this point,

Speaker 2 sure, Emily, yes.

Speaker 1 Unless it's anybody I've ever fought with in the past five years. But at this point, the information is coming from Tamra.
So that's suspect.

Speaker 1 And Gina's like, oh my God, I can't let this thing go now, even though I've let it go for three weeks because it really bothers me.

Speaker 1 Are you going to tell Heather? She's like, well, I don't want to tell Heather, but like, I don't want to start a thing, but like, it's such a real topic, especially for Heather.

Speaker 1 I'm like, I have to bring it off. Like, I don't want it to be the drools, but like, it's such, well, what are they? Photoshopping likes on posts?

Speaker 1 I don't think someone would go that far to Photoshop mics on posts.

Speaker 2 So, Gina's like, I'm genuinely confused by this. And anything I've heard Gretchen say has been love and light.
And I mean, for God's sake, the woman is over 40 and she still wears headbands and bows.

Speaker 2 And she doesn't seem like the sort of person that's like walking around launching hate campaigns on people. I'm like, she seems like literally the exact sort of person.

Speaker 2 If you say that exact description is like the exact person I would expect to launch a hate campaign against someone, yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, obviously, we should give her an opportunity opportunity to explain or address it.

Speaker 1 She's like, yeah, and that's something she should explain because like it's something she needs to explain because it's not good and that's not okay, even though I found out about it and I've been like really close with her ever since.

Speaker 1 Like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 They are such hypocrites, but I'm glad that someone is going to bring it up.

Speaker 2 I was just about to say, I was about to say, like,

Speaker 2 yes, it seems questionable that they waited so long. And of course, they're using it like in an opportunistic way.
But at the same time, you know what? They,

Speaker 2 I appreciate that they are horrified by it and like let's not lose sight of that because they should be horrified and and i'm glad that it's it's significant for them so

Speaker 2 it's gonna be a shit show next week and um i'm bracing i'm putting on my helmet and uh we are we see previews of heather yelling at gretchen as she should

Speaker 2 and uh it's gonna be a wild one so Yeah, here we go.

Speaker 1 And I will, you know, we, I went over these screenshots one time. I read you guys a bunch of them on one of the episodes.

Speaker 1 I don't have them up right now, but I'll have them up for for next time because even looking for them through this,

Speaker 1 I'm seeing that headlines like Gretchen denies ever liking these posts. Like she's, I guess, trying to say that it's a lie.

Speaker 1 And a few weeks ago, she even followed Queer News Daily because it's like this stuff. She knows this stuff is going to come out.
So she starts following these people that'll make.

Speaker 1 everyone else look like a liar. Like, oh, no, I totally follow Queers News Daily.
It's like the most obvious thing, you know?

Speaker 2 She just typed in queer or gay and just followed whatever she could it's like after the thing with katie happened and they were calling her racist she called every asian person she knew and had a luncheon and then posed in one picture with like seven asian girls and was like i just love hanging out with my friends like we see you gretchen you're not that subtle girl like come on now and listen i'm all for if someone is doing something like homophobic um hateful and then they like they stop and they listen and they learn and they they hear from people and they they they do some work and they realize that you know oh shit i was being closed-minded i want to better myself i want to actually like show people that i i actually care about improving myself on this like that that i i i listen to that and i care about that and i appreciate when people really do that but it has to be real and it has to be sincere and so you know well i'll have i'll have to see how sincere i feel gretchen is but i'm not gonna

Speaker 1 fuck gretchen

Speaker 1 very low no very low lacking the like these posts he was lacking are horrible. They were fucking horrible.
It's like likening homosexuality to pedophilia.

Speaker 1 You know, all the shit they said about trans people. This is not stuff you just wake up and you're like, oh, I learned and I'm different now.
No, fuck her. You know, fuck her for real.

Speaker 1 Like, that's not something you're just like, oh, I'm sorry. I forgot about it.
Like, I'm different now in two days. Yeah.

Speaker 2 No. What I'm saying is that, like, like generally, I'm okay for people to learn and grow, but for Gretchen,

Speaker 2 my hopes are very, very low.

Speaker 1 Very low. Very low.

Speaker 2 Very low. Too bad.
I was crazy at the start of the season. Too bad.

Speaker 1 Too bad, Gretchen, loser.

Speaker 1 Bye. Have fun with your demise, lose.

Speaker 1 So that brings us to the end of Real House Was of Orange County. God, this was a week of two-part recaps for almost every show.
I think we did them for almost every show this week. That was crazy.

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