#3048 RHOSLC S606 Part Two: The Fart of War
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So Brittany, she's like, thanks for meeting me.
She's like, well, I had a 30-minute break, mother, between jobs,
plural.
So I came over to your house, planned to meet up, and then Jared at the same time.
Remember when this happened last time?
This happened last time.
So, I came over to your house, and then Jared came over at the same time, and you guys just started making out right in front of me.
Didn't even glance at me.
So, I guess the difference here is that a man you were dating was there for the first one.
So, now that he's not here, you're going to give me your full attention, which I appreciate.
But I want you to get to know me and I want to get to spend time with me over anyone else, especially somebody that you're dating, not dating.
Who knows?
thanks this was oh my gosh this was crazy i mean good for olivia she's like i'm showing up in my pantaloons and i'm giving this woman the business and that's it and i love that she was just like hell no lady you don't call me you don't make any effort towards me and then you want to have a little pity on tvs you're going to have me come to some coffee shop and i'm supposed to like jump in your arms and start crying over steamers you got another thing coming lady
you remember last time you tried this shit you made out with your boyfriend in front of me the whole time.
And that's the last time you tried to see me.
So thanks.
But it would be nice if you actually made an effort, you know, that didn't involve a man being there or you being on a fucking camera.
You know, I was like, damn, Olivia for president.
Jesus.
She was amazingly self-possessed.
She really was like, we've seen a lot of these teenagers
that they come on, they're usually a bit timid or they're kind of nervous, or I don't know, they, they kind of mumble through their, their, their issues.
And she was just like, nope.
I've been down this road with you before, mother, and I'm not going to let you get away with it.
Now, America will see how you treat me.
I was like, yes, she was great.
So she was like, oh, yeah, I just, I don't even know how that happened.
I really don't.
I've just been in the habit of choosing men for so long because, you know, I have kids that I don't even get to see.
And she's like, oh, yeah, no, no, no, no.
You're not going to put that on us.
You don't get to talk about how sad you are because you have kids who don't talk to you.
She's like, no, but I'm not.
I'm i'm really trying i'm trying to get to know you you like steamers i got you a steamer steamers
so then we see olivia uh she actually spit it's sort of amazing we've never even met olivia and now she already has like a confessional towards us she looks great she's all glammed up she's gorgeous she's like my mom was everything you'd want on a mom so present in our lives every field trip every dance recital every school talent show she was there and she was so much fun i was 12 when she got remarried and it was like somebody flipped a switch in her brain to turn that person off completely.
So, like to go from, I love my mom, she comes with me to everything to begging her for attention.
It was so hard because I knew that she can be a loving mother who cares about her kids.
I know it's in her.
It's like, damn,
that's awful that Olivia had to go through that and goes through it currently.
And such a crazy switch to flip because usually you, I don't think I've heard this before, where it's like, she was amazing.
Like she went to every dance, every, you know, every class, every recital she was there you know we see all these pictures of them being happy and hanging out and it's like and then suddenly she just didn't ever want anything to do with me because she found a man i mean that's just crazy and she's like i think it's important that you take accountability and realize i wanted a mom i mean what kid is like i don't want my mom to raise me you know like i can't wait to talk to my dad about periods and olivia's like oh i know but you know that's sad that's sad Olivia.
And I'm so sorry, but I just, I don't know how to make it better.
I mean, I just don't know how.
I can't go back.
And she's like, yeah, I know, but I put yourself in, I put myself in your shoes.
And I think I would never do that.
So why did you do that?
And she's like,
I don't know.
That's not the right answer, girl.
Like you've,
I know this isn't going the way that you thought it was going to go on camera, but you can't just do this to somebody and then just be like, I don't know, water under the bridge, right?
Olivia, well, I have a question.
Have you ever seen the wolf cry at the blue corn?
Mother, stop doing Pocahontas.
You can't do that every time we have a tough conversation.
She's like, listen here, touring company.
I'm not going to listen to that.
Listen to that off-brand Judy Kuhn.
Okay, I'm not going for that.
So
she's like, yeah, well.
Amusement Parks, singer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm not here for a non-union apology.
Okay.
And Olivia's like, um, well, I feel like it's important for you to figure out why you prioritized a relationship with a man over me so it doesn't happen again, because that's my worst fear.
And she starts crying.
And she's like, I mean, it felt like it was me.
Like I was the one who did something wrong.
She goes, I'm so sorry.
Of course it's not you.
Of course it's not you.
It was me.
And she's like, but why?
And she goes, I just, I don't know.
I mean, you were there.
You were cute, but someone thought I was hot.
What do you want me to say?
Have you never felt a spotlight on your face?
Mother, you cannot weird owl the Pocahontas lyrics.
I didn't see what you're doing.
So Brittany,
have you ever felt a spotlight?
Brittany's like, I'm sorry, you're my precious baby that you know nothing about, but I really want to get to know again.
Like, you still like steamers, right?
Mother, get off the steamers.
I don't, I don't know what you're talking about.
I was four.
Okay.
Look, I would love the, I just would love the opportunity.
Okay.
If you'll, if you'll let me get to know you.
Well,
I just don't want to get hurt again.
I'm sorry.
Why are you rubbing a cactus?
Your hands are bleeding.
That's something I do now.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Well, don't you remember when you were two, we looked at the cartoon cactus on TV and you loved it.
You laughed so much.
I was two, mother.
I was two.
I don't like cacti anymore.
This whole scene was crazy to watch.
this was crazy and just the end with brittany doing her like lifetime movie tears was i just oh it was cringy and i felt so bad for olivia although you know good for her because apparently she has a really good dad you know and sister because she is so confident and look knows exactly what she's feeling like she's extremely in touch with what she's feeling and it's so impressive that somebody especially that young can lay out exactly their problems Like, here's exactly why I'm pissed.
There's no,
you know, acting out in other ways to kind of get around to the point.
It's like, no, this is exactly why I'm pissed.
When are you going to stop doing this?
And Brittany's just like, I mean, yeah, Brittany's just like, I don't know, because
I think you're literally still doing it with Jared.
So what can I tell you?
I think, you know, one thing that like.
we and by not just the two of us but i think like the audience has always noticed about brittany is the way this group will just slam her left and right all the time.
And she's like, guys, and we always laugh how like she just, she just keeps on taking it.
Like she just, they will say the meanest things.
Like last week, Bronwyn was like, you guys, I think we can all agree.
We all have good hair.
So let's stop making fun of each other.
Well, of course, except for, except for Brittany.
It's just like, she gets strays left and right.
And it's like funny because she just takes it.
But it also kind of speaks to like this.
like emotional shell that she has where I think that she just doesn't get like
she's she doesn't get the emotional input or understand like something is something is kind of broken in her and so when you see that applied to her relationship with her daughter it's like not as funny anymore because I mean it'll still be funny when she receives strays but like the way I think sort of like that emotional numbing that she has when when she receives these strays when it's applied to the to how she's receiving very earnest and sincere cries for help from her daughter, it's like it lands in a very different way.
I think she's just a narcissist who loves attention and that's all she knows.
And like the ladies making fun of her, she doesn't care because it's funny.
You know, she's on a TV show.
So she's being mentioned and that's all she cares about.
Like she showed up to an interview last week, you know, after they did the vanity fair.
They did the vanity fair article and all the ladies were featured as desperate housewives.
It was a, you know, a play on that shoot or an homage to that shoot.
And so everybody showed up in the same bathing suits and did the same poses.
And Brittany was like the only one who was left out of it.
So she showed up to the interview wearing a bikini you know wearing
yeah
and like it's funny because like haha but it's also just somebody who hasn't it's just shameless you know it's just it's just a shame right well also
because she was like guys i just had to i had to wear this i mean come on right of course i had to wear it i'm like you didn't have to wasn't like everyone No one was crying out, being like, oh my God, Brittany must wear a swimsuit.
That would be hilarious.
She thinks that, though, it does speak to some sort of narcissistic quality that she has.
So now let's go over to Meredith and Heather walking alongside a chain link fence with snow melting on the side.
I love a good old-fashioned SLC scene, you know.
It's just like the exterior of a junkyard.
All right, let's do this scene.
So they drive up, and Heather's like, oh my God, are you driving yourself?
Look at this.
Meredith Marks is driving herself.
I never thought I'd see it.
Yes, this is true.
But it's been a tough 24 hours.
Yesterday afternoon, my throat was getting sore.
Sorry, Heather.
And so I went and grabbed the Coldies
and I didn't even chew it.
And I chipped a tooth on the candy somehow.
And then Brooksy was walking around barefoot.
And I said, don't walk.
You'll cut your foot on the tooth shard that's on the floor.
It was very scary.
Then, somehow, I walked to the edge of the bathroom.
I kicked my toe on the shower.
That toe is blue.
Backing away from that, I stepped on a Lego, waved my arms until I cracked my hand into a mirror and flew down the stairs head first.
Tumble, tumble, tumble, hit my head on the chandelier.
That fell down, crashed down on my knee.
Before you knew it, I grabbed for anything I could.
It was a fire poker.
I started waving at the chandelier and electrocuted myself.
And then the house started on fire.
It was just quiing a day.
And then
when I tried to go upstairs to save my toddler, a paint can came swinging down on a rope and hit me in the forehead.
And I said, oh my God.
And then I went down to the boiler room.
I burned myself on the boiler, one thing after another.
Oh, my God.
I'll never go back to that house again.
It's like I was trying to rob my own parents' house.
Oh, that sounds awful.
Well, is that why you're wearing those?
It seems like this doesn't seem like the right shoes for this walk.
Well, honestly, it's easier because my legs are conditioned to being in heels.
I was, my mother put me in heels as soon as I came out of the womb.
And I've actually never worn anything flat before.
So I actually have feet that are in the shape of pumps.
So funny.
She's like, my, I'm conditioned to being in heels, so it's healthier.
Wow.
I mean, this is a beautiful environment that you've chosen for us.
I love the way the sun hits that dirty snow over there in the corner.
It's very scenic.
Well, can we talk about the garden party that quickly turns?
Well, I went shopping with Lisa, and there was part of me that felt like I wasn't getting through at all.
I mean, how many times do you have to say sisterhood before a person gets it, you know?
Oh, gosh.
And you know, I love Lisa.
I've always loved Lisa, haven't I?
And I just want to defend her, don't I?
Oh, but I also don't want to be a fool because, you know, also, I wasn't Lisa's friend for a while.
And this is very recent.
So it's the first time I'm seeing how she pulls you in and kind of slings the mud.
And like, I used to think she was truly fearless.
And now I'm wondering if she was fearless.
She'd just say these things to our faces and not drop them in other people's buckets.
She does say them to your faces.
You are such a manipulator.
I cannot believe you.
Not only did you start this whole war between everybody, but now you're sitting here acting like she's saying things behind your back.
Everything that she said, she said to your all's face.
And also her saying, like,
Heather saying, wow, you know, this, now I'm seeing how she pulls you in and then slings mud.
I was like, Heather, this is what you would always accuse her of for the first three seasons of the show, three or four seasons.
And her, and I love Heather being like, I always thought Lisa Barlow was fearless.
Oh, God.
Come on.
So she's like, Yeah, I mean, it feels like the pieces are falling into places.
Like, you know, she has a very specific move, and that's to dig up dark skeletons.
I think the best, and I mean this as a compliment, but I think the best detective work on this show, wasn't that you who found Monica's,
you know, Monica's, I think that was the best detective work.
I mean, the
what, what would you blame Lisa for doing detective work on?
I think she's gotten caught on the necklace thing, but I don't even think that was bad because Bronwyn was not lying about the necklace, which we found out later.
And
what else was there?
Am I forgetting something?
I'm not sure.
Well, maybe Lisa was behind saying that Angie was in the Greek mafia that same season.
I'm not sure.
I don't know if, I don't know what other stuff Lisa has.
Well, Lisa will, what Lisa does is she throws out accusations.
That's not what I heard.
I heard that you were doing this or that.
Like she does kind of like, remember at the end of last season, she said something kind of like, well, I heard that you were doing doing three sums i think she said that to angie or what she sort of she hurdles she hurls uh rumors that she may or may not have monica garcia brought up the greek mafia stuff and meredith marks was accused of bringing up the rumors i had no
i apologize i was
so much happy no i mean there's a lot so much happens on this show you know like you have to listen so heather's like well it made me think Why did you let Lisa off the hook at Whitney's party?
That was supposed to be the time when you turn on her.
That's why we were all there.
Well, the thing is, when Lisa and I had our falling out a couple of years ago, she did profusely apologize to me for years.
You know why?
Because she got caught red-handed and she couldn't deflect and she couldn't avoid it and she couldn't bob and weave and she was caught.
And so she owned it.
Yeah, but that wasn't even talking behind her back.
That was going off to herself in a bathroom on a mic when the mic was on, right?
That's what's right.
But then the question was whether or not she she was like aware like did she was it a hot mic moment intentionally or was it unintentional that was always the debate
meredith says well my view is that when somebody shows you who they are you deal with them accordingly okay but what if she didn't right and you're gonna
like what if she didn't yeah
she's like but meredith she did it i mean god love her we've known this woman for so many years i mean it tracks you know she's never gonna say she did it and she's sorry but it's kind of what Angie was saying.
You know, she's done it to everyone at different times.
And it just makes me doubt Lisa.
And that's why I believe Angie.
So see, Heather's trying to submit.
She's playing her hand too soon because she started the season like subtly trying to throw Lisa under the bus.
And now she's like literally trying to rally everybody.
But it's Lisa, so it'll probably work.
She'll get Lisa to lead her shit in two seconds.
I mean, look, Heather, from my standpoint, I don't have a great track record with Angie.
So at this point, she's saying she didn't do it.
I have to give her the benefit of the doubt until I have something coming to me that tells me otherwise.
So she's like, listen, I believe Lisa.
Why is Angie's mouth?
Why is whatever comes out of Angie's mouth gospel?
You know, like, what about the commentary on your Barbie sensor kicks?
Was that true, too?
We see a flashback of that.
She's like, what's she telling God about that?
Yeah.
And Heather's like, well, I don't want to be in a friendship with Lisa if I have to keep her at arm's length or watch my back or wonder if she's only like not digging up dirt on me because she's not mad at me right now.
Who did she dig up?
I'm just like so confused.
No one should dig up dirt on.
No one should be digging up dirt on their friends and I definitely won't be doing it with my broken toe.
Anyway,
anyone who's doing that is not a friend.
Superman isn't dirt that Lisa dug up.
That was stuff that was talked about on a podcast and that was people were talking about online.
I feel like a lot of times they get on this show and they go look at all the gossip that's going around on tick tock and reddit and everything else and then they bring it up to each other and then they accuse each other of spreading it when it's been out on the internet the whole time you know yeah yeah
So Heather's like, I believe that Lisa's done that though.
And I believe that she did that to you.
And it's going to keep happening if we keep looking at, if we keep looking the other way and we're going to have resentments.
And I don't want to be in a friendship like that.
I really don't.
This is a sisterhood.
I think it's absolutely ridiculous ridiculous that Meredith would even think that this is something that we can just overlook.
Like she may have, she may have, she may not have, but you know, girls will be girls.
I don't even know what I'm saying anymore.
I'm just sort of throwing cliches.
That's the way the cookie crumbles.
Am I right?
Can't cry over spilt milk.
Can't have your cake and eat it too.
It's a sisterhood of cake.
Heather, Heather, Heather.
She's trying so hard, but forgets that everybody was coming after Meredith for setting everything up for the past couple of years, just like she's accusing Lisa of doing now.
This was your storyline against
Meredith for years.
It has been for years.
And now you're trying to get Meredith to say that it's always been Lisa.
I mean, if it's always been Lisa, it's also always been Meredith.
So you're trying to, it's like you're trying to get someone on your side for something that has been in trouble for the same thing for years now.
So
that's just crazy, this logic.
So she's like, well, I just want us to be able to acknowledge when we're fucked up and move on.
Okay, then acknowledge that you went and started all this shit with Lisa and the other women right at the start.
That's what I say.
And she's like,
the rest of us are able to say we're sorry, but I would love for Lisa to say she's sorry for a few things too.
Well, good luck with that.
Yeah, good luck with that.
She ain't going to do that.
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Now we're at Whitney's house and
I don't know what's going on with Whitney in this this scene, but her hair looks crazy because it's like red, but then she's got like a brown patch right in the front, which I know roots, whatever.
Her makeup is off.
Like she,
I think she was alerted 10 minutes before the scene that they'd be shooting at her house.
She's like, oh my God, have to get ready.
She looks bonkers.
So, all right.
One of the important things about this trip is a preference sheet.
And we're leaving and you have to do yours, Mary.
You're going to regret it if you don't.
So they have to fill out their preference sheets.
And
we see Heather filling out hers in a flashback with Meredith.
And Heather's like, please tell us what your ideal breakfast looks like on this order.
Okay.
Wake up, Huevos, brancheros, overcooked bacon, eggs, Benedict, donuts, and sisterhood.
I'm not really into breakfast.
That's more of a time when I just feed up some pureed vegetables to Brooksy, but I don't eat anything.
Yeah, let's just move on to lunch.
Move on to lunch.
Move on to lunch.
I want dark jenny all on the boat, Liz.
Dark Jenny Gall.
Thank y'all.
I'm going to say, must have glitter spray.
This is going to be an epic trip.
Oh, I'm sure the I'm sure Daisy's going to love that.
Oh, your glitter spray everywhere on this luxury.
Oh, they're spraying their glitter again.
What am I supposed to do?
Just wipe up all this shininess.
Just sink the boats already and send me off on a dinghy.
So
Whitney's like, I don't know why the bougiest person doesn't want to do the bougiest thing on the bougiest boat.
Did I say bougiest already?
So they're trying to get Mary to do it.
And
so we see that Mary has very strong preferences and it's 2003 Don Perignon.
We see the flashback to the hotel where she gets on the phone with room service and it's like, do you have 2003 Don Perignon?
And they say no.
And she's like, oh.
So she keeps telling Angie, okay, just put down 2003 Dom Perignon.
Okay.
And parfait for breakfast, yogurt parfait, uh, 2003 domperignon.
Okay, I got that and 2003 domperignon.
Blueberries, Egyptian cotton sheets, uh, 2003 domperignon.
Like, okay, we got that one.
Uh, Mary is like, I've been on a yacht before.
I love it.
It's something about it.
There's something about a boat for me.
It's like, it feels like it's at night.
It's just rocking to sleep.
Maybe because I was never rocked to sleep.
I just get it from the boat.
It's like, oh, that turned sad very quickly.
So Angie, they're just going through more of this stuff.
And then they're just like coffee or tea.
Speaking of tea, have you guys seen all the tea on Bronwyn floating around on the internet, which is a word that ends with tea?
Have you seen the Mary?
Like just today, the first thing I saw was Bronwyn allegations of identity theft.
Like, it's crazy, right?
When I read the headlines, I was, hey, wait, what is, what does Trixie say?
Oh, yeah.
Gagged.
I try to, oh, wait, wait, message to future employers for Justin.
That's not a real gag.
Oh, but sometimes we do do the real gag.
What am I trying to say again?
I'm lost.
I was lost, but then I found gagging again.
I'm back, baby.
That's why I'm magag.
Make America gagging again.
Oh, we're gagging.
So I try to choose friends who are not part of the Utah crime circle, but obviously my picker's wrong.
I'm gagged.
So has anyone talked to Bronwyn?
Has anyone talked to her?
Let's go to Bronwyn at Todd at the Edison Club social house.
Dun, done, done.
So she comes in in bikini bottoms, you know, which, which everyone,
which everyone in trouble, everyone who's like suffering in the press right now, the first thing we do, like, you know what?
I'm putting on my underwear and I'm going to dinner.
Okay.
listen you got to sometimes make an ode to spongebob
bottom well i got you a drink that you like loaded myself up on diet oak so we're good to go and uh i just in the spirit of transparency your beverage did have a cherry on it and i did eat it i got you a shirley temple sorry about the cherry loser
now they just call it a temple say it's the shirley part
Okay, so what are we going to do?
What are we going to do?
I know you saw my messages, these ridiculous headlines that have nothing to do with anything but, you know, talking about all the things that have actually happened to me.
So what are we going to do about it?
So she explains to us, there's two separate things happening here.
There are mistakes I made in college.
We're talking 20 years ago.
Okay.
And I mean, what?
I had an eviction notice after I left BYU.
I mean, okay, I paid it later.
Okay.
And then they're saying that allegedly I committed crimes current day in the last year or so, identity theft, grand theft, fraud.
I mean, all these things listed under the penal code.
Okay.
There's just so many things under the same penal code.
What actually happened was almost 10 years ago.
Nothing recent, but I mean, it's a case that's dismissed and then it was sealed.
So I just can't talk about it because it was sealed.
Okay.
Almost 10 years ago means nine years max, right?
Like that's about nine years ago.
And nine years ago was about 2016, 2017.
I don't know.
That still seems pretty close.
That's like not like, oh, way back in crazy college times.
But then what is the year above?
so if she committed crimes during the current day in the past year or so identity theft grand theft fraud all these things
then why did it happen almost 10 years ago
well she's saying it didn't happen recently she said she said the thing they're they're talking about as if it happen as if it happened just right now it happened like 10 years ago but it got dismissed and then it was also sealed so i'm not even allowed to even talk about it because it's sealed oh okay so she's saying this they're acting like this is recent but this was 10 years ago okay so she's like, yeah, that was dismissed and sealed.
And so I can't legally talk about it.
Well, that's not what being sealed means.
Of course, you can talk about it.
They can't talk about it.
The court can't.
Like the court is sealed.
Your lips aren't sealed.
I don't know what the rule is about the sealing.
You know, like, I don't know what, what, what that is, but Todd's like, well, you know, this lying bullshit online in the press.
You know, it affects us all.
Well, you get a case sealed if it's embarrassing to you.
So if there's a case that, you know, whatever happened and you asked for the categor the case to to be sealed, that's because it could be, you know, reputation harming.
I think you can get that like your first or second.
I mean, I just watch Law and Order.
That's all I know it from, you know, law shows.
But from what I understand, the case being sealed doesn't mean you can't talk about it if you were the one that was being,
you know, it was sealed in her favor.
You know what?
Does that make any sense?
Like you asked for the case to be sealed so your reputation isn't damaged.
So you're the one you can talk about the case.
I just think that the court isn't allowed to release documents on your case.
Oh,
well, sorry, go ahead.
No, it's fine.
So Todd is now saying how all this lying is affecting him personally and professionally.
Just the other day, they started telling me that pom pilots are dead, and that's only because of these rumors.
God, my entire business is sinking.
And she's like, I know, I know it's going to cause a problem for you.
I know.
I'm sorry about that because I know it's going to be a concern.
I know that my name next to any of these words
reflects poorly on you.
And, you know, you need to be seen as someone who is, you know, trustworthy and beyond reproach and you're going to show Dennis the menace who's boss.
You know, I get that.
And I know, Todd, I know, I know.
Okay.
So I get it.
And I just, separate from that, but I saw your text and I should think about not going on this trip.
So I want to talk about that.
So just, just in case anyone didn't see the parallels, Bronwyn's whole issue with her mom is that when she had Gwen,
And there's all this crazy shit that like
Bronwyn's concerns and Bronwyn's choices
last on anyone's priorities.
She had to be more concerned about her dad and his position in the church and his reputation because of her actions.
And that was a higher priority than how she was doing.
And now here we are again, where she is the brunt of tabloid rumors that are embarrassing or maybe jilting or whatever.
And she has to be concerned about Todd's position in his professional career that probably already peaked 20 years ago.
Just want to say that she's found herself back in the same position.
Yeah, it is an interesting parallel.
But
yeah, I would be interested to see what this stuff is, you know?
Meaning that like he should be saying, not like, you understand that this is going to hurt things for me professionally.
He should be saying,
what do you need from me?
I'm sorry that you are receiving that you are like
on the receiving end of all these rumors that are absolutely not true.
Don't worry about me.
I'll get through this.
People, my reputation is good enough that like it's not going to be an issue for me professionally, right?
Like
the fact that he's trying, he's, he's piling on and making her feel shitty.
Well, I think it's also, and I hate being in the position where I'm kind of standing up for Todd here, but I don't know what Bromwyn did.
So I don't know how bad this is that he got this covered up and sealed and all of this other shit.
So I don't know.
But I think that what's exacerbating it probably for Todd, if you put yourself in Todd's shoes, is that she's like, okay, so all these rumors about are about me.
So I'm going to go film a TV show on a boat with these women who are going to do nothing but make this 20 times worse you know because i'm obsessed with being on this tv show so i think he's just like oh my god i think he's just like can we just get off this fucking tv show at this point what more do you need like now they're really trying to ruin our lives like what more do you need you know i mean i get you're supposed to support your spouse but like if it seems like it's ruining your whole life
How much support are you supposed to give before it's like, well, when do you support me?
Like, how much of this is going to ruin my life that I have to just put up up with so you can be on your TV show?
It's not like it's just some fun TV show that happens to be a minor inconvenience.
This is like life-ruining stuff, you know?
I think any spouse would be a little bit like, what the fuck, bro?
Yeah, but I think then that conversation happens before you start up your next, your, your, your next season, right?
Like, it's like, this is ruining our life.
This is having an impact on me professionally.
I know you like it, but I don't think I can do this or whatever.
But I just feel like I just don't like that, that his first response is about his profession.
That like he's having, this is going to be harder for him.
This guy who is who, by the way,
the guys he probably deals with in corporate America do things probably 10 times worse than anything that Bronwyn's ever done.
Well, I don't think he said anything mean to her.
I think his mind was he said, you know, you know, this lying bullshit online in the press affects all of us personally and professionally.
That's all he said.
I don't think he was like, damn it, Bronwyn.
What have you done now?
He was just like, this shit in the press is, it's like a killer.
What should we, what are we going to do about it?
But like, she has to come in here and grovel and be like, well, I know this really affects you.
And like, oh my God, I know it has to be a lot of fun.
You know, you can't marry an old, grumpy man and then be like, why is my old man grumpy?
Like,
I mean, I don't know what to
like the old man.
I feel like this conversation can be had, but I think the priority right now is making sure that your wife is okay and like, like, everything's in good standing and that she knows that you have her back.
And then you can say, but by the way, maybe we should, we should reconsider this show because it's, it's now starting to affect things larger than just like squabbles, you know, that you have
in Palm Springs.
I just felt like he was not there for her in this moment.
And I felt like she had to spend more time tending to him.
I know what you're saying, though.
Like we don't know like already how much he's had to deal with in terms of these
in terms of these legal affairs that they've already been maybe a burden on them in in the past.
And it's sort of like bringing something
back ups, you know, et cetera.
But I just didn't love that she had to come in and just take care of him when she was the one
like having her embarrassing past.
I don't know.
It seems like they've they've got a good partnership in a way to me.
You know, I think we look at this and everybody's like, that grumpy old asshole, you shouldn't be with him.
And I'm, I'm partly like that too.
I mean, I was saying it in the scene before, like, I think a marriage should be happy.
I mean, in my head, it should
seem more happy than this has ever seemed.
But at the same time, the vibes they have, it's like they're at this social club, they're having drinks, and her first thing is to come in and just be like, okay, what are we going to do?
You know what I mean?
They seem to have a partnership where it's like, okay, how are we dealing with this?
Where are we going?
I didn't really see her coming in here being like, oh my God, Todd, I'm so sorry.
I see her being like, okay, how are we going to deal with this?
You know, and him being like, okay, let's, I mean, I see it as them kind of, he's a gruff asshole.
I'm not going to say he's not.
Obviously, I've said it a million times, but it seems like they've they've got some kind of partnership that works for them is all I'm saying.
They do.
I don't deny that, but I, but also they're smart people and they know about reality TV.
They know everything comes out.
There's no hiding.
Every single thing is going to come out.
Maybe they had convinced themselves that this part wouldn't come out.
And if anything, we've learned from Wendy and Eddie that smart people do stupid, stupid things.
But
like, I don't know.
I just have a, I just have a hard time believing that they like,
I, I just think it's hard to believe that they're, i don't know i just don't like that she's she's not the priority in this moment right now for him that like she's obviously texted him frantically to be like oh my god this shit is going public i want to like i need to talk with you etc and i don't know i just felt like i just well he was texting back he was saying yeah i don't think now's the right time to go on a trip like cast trip with these people this is like some heavy shit you know and she's like no i'm going on the trip so i'm i mean i don't know um but and here's another reason I have a feeling completely, another reason I have a
problem completely falling for Bronwyn because she's immediate, look what she immediately does.
And when you say these people are smart, look what she immediately does.
She's like, oh, well, you know, based on our past, there's a heavy possibility that Lisa started these rumors.
You know, there's a possibility if she didn't start them, she's perpetuating them.
And you know that, and I want to be done fighting with Lisa and that she could have been sitting there pretending to be my friend and pretending that she wanted to make up.
And then this is what she's doing behind my back.
That's pretty diabolical.
This stuff was coming out all over the internet, I think, because people started researching Bronwyn when it seemed like she was lying all the time last year.
You know what I mean?
So to me, it's like, eh, here we go.
You're going to scapegoat Lisa Barlow again for this, which.
She will use it.
Lisa Barlow will use this.
I see her.
I'm not saying she's above using it.
I just see Bronwyn.
Bronwyn seems kind of diabolical to me too.
So I'm just not, I'm just not in the whole like Bronwyn's a total victim, wow, wow, wow, Bronwyn thing.
I don't think Bronwyn's a super villain either.
I'm actually enjoying Bronwyn a lot more this season than I did last season, but I'm just not ready to jump in the boat of like, oh, poor Bronwyn, she needs more from Todd.
I think she seems to get quite a bit from Todd.
And I don't even mean financially, because obviously that's something.
But I think they have some kind of weird partnership, friendship thing that I don't really understand.
But it's not coming across to me as him being like emotionally abusive to her at this point.
It's coming across to me as him being like, all right, well, how can we deal with this?
First thing is probably not to go on TV and make this even worse on a group trip where you're stuck on a boat with these people.
You know, I don't think he's being emotionally abusive.
I just think that, you know, he's just sort of, I think, condescending to her.
And whether or not she deserves to be condescended to, that's the gray area.
I mean, you like to think no one deserves to be condescended to.
No one deserves to be condescended to.
I just think they have a vibe.
yeah but i think i do think though that it is a leap that bromwan immediately starts blaming lisa for this like that's a little wild is it that she is lisa the only person she told about these these things that happened in her past because that would make a little bit more sense but it is it is kind of hilarious that she that she immediately starts pointing the finger at lisa barlow like that's it's actually a pretty big jump And I think a lot of the energy he's giving her is energy that we've been getting from him the whole time, which is parent-daughter energy, right?
Because he's like, well, because he says, I wouldn't go on that trip.
And she goes, well, what are you worried about?
Which is such a ding-dong question.
Like, really?
Fraud, grand theft.
fraud alley i mean what are you talking about what are you worried about and he's like well a tiger can't change his stripes okay and she's not going to change and what i said to you a year ago i don't know why you get in the gutter with her because that's what it is you just get in the gutter and muck around with slime you get down with dogs and wonder why you're covered in fleas you eat a lollipop and then wonder why your teeth got cavities.
If you decide to go, I get it.
You're a big girl.
You're a grown woman in a dinosaur costume and underwear in public.
But I understand.
Just don't come home complaining that you and Lisa got into a fight because I assume it's going to happen.
You're setting yourself up for it and it's on you.
That's literally on you.
Well, he's right about that.
I say flexibility.
And I think that's fair.
And like, I, I think he's fine as like, go, you're going to do this.
There will be a fight.
I don't really want to hear it.
I'm telling you right now, this is not a smart idea.
But she's got to go to work.
Got to get that paycheck.
Yeah.
So
off to the Caribbean she goes.
Yeah.
So let's see.
Looks like a disaster.
We see the preview and Lisa is just sobbing down stairways the whole time.
A shit show.
Yay.
Yay.
Thanks everybody for being here.
Fun times.
Yeah, good times, everybody.
Thanks for joining us.
We will be back tomorrow with a little wife swap action.
Thanks for being here.
See you next time.
Bye.
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