#3092 RHOP S10E09 PART TWO: Case of the Ex

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Speaker 2 This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, well, go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe so that way you always get your episodes.
But enough of that.

Speaker 2 Let's get right back into the episode. So Tia's like, she's recasting it as.

Speaker 1 See, I was right the whole time about Monique. And now that Monique is not with Chris, then I can be friends with her because it was, it just all had to do with Chris.

Speaker 1 And my judgments were right the whole time.

Speaker 2 Well, also, like, Monique destroyed her at that reunion famously and this is her it's actually a way to save face because monique comes back and she doesn't have to like resurrect the feud because she knows she already lost it this way she can actually like be like okay feud's over you won but i don't have to be like you won i can be like oh i like you because it's a new you it's like if you're ever getting bullied in school which i mean shocker i was all the time and parental advice is like hit them back all you have to do when a bully is coming after you you hit hit them back.

Speaker 1 And every bully's a wuss.

Speaker 1 And the second you hit them back, they're going to go run crying and they're never going to mess with you again because everybody knows you're going to hit back.

Speaker 1 So I just want to suggest not doing that because I did that as a kid and I got my ass kicked. And there is a picture of me and it was the day of school photos.
And there's a picture of me.

Speaker 1 I'm wearing this fluorescent yellow shirt. It's covered in blood and I've got a split lip.

Speaker 1 And you can tell I've been crying because my eyes are really puffy.

Speaker 1 And I've got big claw hair. And it's pathetic.
I look like this.

Speaker 1 Like big slit lip. Covered in blood.
So maybe don't do that. But in this case, it worked.
Giselle. It worked.
Giselle changed her tune.

Speaker 2 Maybe Texas is not where that works, but in other places it does. I feel like Texas hitting back is like, hmm.

Speaker 2 Now you got a situation.

Speaker 1 Well, to be fair, I went for a kid that wasn't even really the bully.

Speaker 1 It was someone, he was messing with one of my friends on the playground, but probably later I realized he was probably just joking around. But I was like, okay, he pushed my friend.

Speaker 1 So if I hit him, he's smaller than the bully. So if I hit him, everybody will know that I hit people who pushed people and then the bully would leave me alone.

Speaker 1 So it was kind of my own terrible planning in the fifth grade. I didn't hit the bully.

Speaker 2 And the bully came and punched you.

Speaker 1 And then, no, this kid, the kid that I hit punched me. No, the kid that I hit punched me.
He kicked my ass. Yeah, he kicked my ass.
But then the bully was like, haha, you got beat up, loser.

Speaker 1 And then pushed me into a locker. So it just didn't work.

Speaker 2 But also top hit the actual bully don't hit somebody else yeah hit the bull yeah don't hit the deputy because the bully loves that when the deputy gets beat up um

Speaker 2 so tia's like can i ask a question ashley did you ever beat up a child in tech this odor that was rotty does monique show but

Speaker 2 does monique know about any of this and ash is like um no i feel like it'd be nice if like you can have like a sit-down you know like reasonably shady was like a little hyped because you guys made it hyped by the way yeah so ashy basically is like um

Speaker 2 you know i don't think we made much progress and cookie you know cookie was getting really froggy and so now they all make fun of cookie

Speaker 1 don't bite your finger at me and just i was like stomping and doing the sophia stomps and she's like oh my god i was like what are you doing now she says yeah so there wasn't a real opportunity for a conversation so you know it would be nice if you were open to come sit down with stacy and me and i'm also inviting moniker oh wow a sit-down with completely um un you know, uninvolved parties.

Speaker 1 Like, you're the total shit starter, Ashley. Why should you be there? Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 And Ashley's saying, Monique is coming to the situation, and I haven't had a chance to talk to her yet.

Speaker 3 So it's going to be like, I'm going to ambush her first, and then I'll ambush Stacy second with Kierana. So it'll be great.
So she doesn't even know what's been discussed with Stacy and Chris.

Speaker 3 And then when she finds out the facts, she can do within what she wants. And this is just like Monique's battle to fight.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, sure. Just get up.
You're just going to give her the facts. There won't be any sort of editorial comment or sort of swaying or setting up to do anything.
Sure, totally.

Speaker 1 And you'll do it in a totally fair way where everybody's there and, you know, Stacey hears the facts, the facts, quote unquote, that you're giving out and you won't try to poison the well before she even arrives.

Speaker 1 Sure. Right.
Sure.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. You won't.
Yeah. You won't try to manipulate the situation whatsoever.
Yeah, totally. It sounds great.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So back at the other house, Wendy's like, well, I would like for you to meet with Monique.
So if Monique's okay and she doesn't have an issue with this, she can move past it. Okay.

Speaker 1 The other lady should be able to do the same. And she's like, well, I will, but I don't want to meet with Kay because I'm not comfortable with her.
And she's like, okay. So,

Speaker 1 and I've had enough.

Speaker 1 So now we go to Kierna's condo where her haughty brother, Brian, arrives. And I don't know anything really else that happened in the scene.

Speaker 2 I don't know what happened in the scene. I was just looking at Brian and he like at one point, he sits on the side and his titty comes out.
And I was like, what is happening here?

Speaker 2 And he, I mean, mean, he is fully showing off for America. Cause again, last season, he showed up in a polo and he looked hot in the polo.

Speaker 2 Well, I mean, hot people look hot no matter what, but I was like, he already looked great in a polo. As we say, Dianu, that would be enough.
But now here he is, everything's hanging out.

Speaker 2 And they're just talking about Greg. I guess the mom comes over also.
So these three beautiful people are sitting here having, having some powwow.

Speaker 2 And they're talking about, I guess, Greg wants Kieran to move back in.

Speaker 2 And then I guess he's going to buy the condo.

Speaker 2 Is that the thing? And the mom was like, he's going to buy a condo.

Speaker 1 Well, this is so weird. Okay, so Greg has asked me to move back in, which is great because you know how much moving out hurt me.
So I was sharing my purchase process with him.

Speaker 1 And he was like, you know what? I want to purchase the condo. Okay, so I guess he wanted her to move in, but decided to buy her a condo instead.

Speaker 1 And then he said, okay, well, we should go look at rings, but you know, what's a priority to you, a ring or a condo? Because you have to pick pick between a ring and a condo.

Speaker 1 So he said, okay, well, then the condo is a priority, so you don't get a ring, which

Speaker 1 is kind of, it's kind of showing what kind of guy Greg is. Like, oh, really? Okay, well, I don't have to marry.

Speaker 1 Like, he's getting out of marrying her by getting her a condo, but also is getting a condo out of it. Like, why are we hating on Greg? I think Greg's doing a pretty good job.

Speaker 1 Like, Greg, look, Greg is taking the notes, right? He was, everybody hated him last year.

Speaker 1 So now this year he's coming back and just being very nice to everybody, which I mean, I guess I call that an effort, even if it's fake. Listen, the man bought me a condo, okay?

Speaker 1 Let's stop being mean to Greg. I know.

Speaker 2 And also, by the way, they're in like Greg's house. I guess he's in a new house now, but it looks just like the condo, but it doesn't have a view of the highway.
I don't know. You know what?

Speaker 2 For some reason, I don't love the idea of him buying the condo. I feel like her getting her own condo was supposed to be.
an independent thing and the fact that he's going to buy it for her actually

Speaker 1 right in the very beginning when she was doing her whole, oh, see, this is empowerment. Everybody didn't like Greg.

Speaker 1 So now look at me supporting myself, doing whatever I want because I own my own business. And Greg bought that condo.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 It's just like, I understand if he's like, I don't have the, I can't afford to buy both right now, but it should, it should be more like, I'm going to get you the condo and then the next thing will be the ring.

Speaker 2 Or I'll get you like maybe not as expensive of a ring. Like it's still, that's okay.
You don't have to get it.

Speaker 1 Or how about your engagement ring is your condo?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Or how about rent a place? If you need some space, why don't you rent a place and let's get engaged? And then I don't know.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 He's like, I've got a ring for you.

Speaker 2 It's a little bit more modest. It's made of polyester.
It has a collar. It's a polo shirt.
It goes around your body. Here you go.

Speaker 2 You want to wear the polo shirt for

Speaker 2 my job again?

Speaker 2 Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 That's what his ring will be.

Speaker 1 What's that ring?

Speaker 2 I just. There's something out there.

Speaker 1 Is it Karen's brother? Is he out there? Well, at first, I thought I saw an angel and I was like, why would would there be an angel in my house and why isn't it moving?

Speaker 1 Like, I love that an angel would come and just like, like,

Speaker 1 pause. And I was like, well, maybe it's a reflection of something in the glass, but there is nothing that it's reflecting.
But now that I'm looking at it, it's a bird.

Speaker 1 It's a bird that came up and I guess, because, you know, in this house, sometimes that happens where a bird like runs into the window, but Ben, its wings are outstretched.

Speaker 1 Like you can see the whole outline of the bird. It's so sad.

Speaker 1 And I had those little sticky things because someone on this show told me to get little sticky things that are reflective that you put for the and i had them but i think when they were cleaning the windows they took them off i don't know if they thought a little kid was here did the bird crash in the window and left a mark of the actual like splat of the wings and everything well it's white it's not like bloody so it's not disgusting no i know but it's just like the full outline of the bird like the

Speaker 2 right because it squashed the dirt that's so i'm like embarrassed for the bird because it's such like a cliche away i know it's so embarrassing i hope most birds when they crash into windows when most birds crash into windows they leave sort of like a little circle but to actually leave an imprint of your wings

Speaker 1 I wish I could show you. I wish I could take my camera up there and show you guys because it's something.

Speaker 2 It's like the only thing that could have been funnier is if you actually saw like a coyote pressing down on a TNT box.

Speaker 2 It's terrible. Anyway, you can see how compelling this scene was that it caused Ronnie to gaze off into his.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry, you guys, it's Monday. I'm just back from break.
No, the scene.

Speaker 2 The thing is this, Kierana, we give Kierana shit on this show because she's trying so hard and she keeps trying to start fights and she's, she's just, she's overcompensated too much for last season.

Speaker 2 But regardless of that, she deserves better than Greg.

Speaker 1 She deserves better. She does, yeah.

Speaker 2 She, she deserves better and she can do better. So she needs to move on.

Speaker 1 And the whole reason I'm just saying we should forgive Greg, I'm just making jokes because I just want a condo. I just want a free condo.
Like, I don't ever get anything from men, you know?

Speaker 1 So I just want a condo. I would, I would brag about that.
I'd be happy.

Speaker 1 But also the thing that's annoying about kiarina is that she's full of shit you know she kind of made everybody think that this was like she bought this condo it's like this big proud moment and then it turns out just to be another greg thing and i feel like she's not only doing well on the show she's already trying to manipulate like a pro housewife like she's trying to manipulate the audience like a pro housewife and she's not a pro housewife and so she's even failing at that like you can't manipulate us like this and it's not i hope it was worth it like you still suck you're paying for this whole condo to have this woman empowerment storyline and you're still still failing at even that.

Speaker 1 Like, come on, man.

Speaker 2 No, it was worth it because we got to see our hot brother. So, you know what? That's true.

Speaker 2 If you're going to do these, if you're going to do these stupid scenes, if you bring your hot brother, I will forgive each and every one of them as long as he wears that type of shirt or less.

Speaker 2 So, you know what, Kira and I keep doing this.

Speaker 1 All right. So, now we go to Wendy for a family scene.
And

Speaker 1 she's wearing yellow heels and her kid's like, I don't like those yellow heels. I told you not to wear them and she's like it's for a pop of color it's like

Speaker 1 she said did you just roll your eyes at me cam and she just rolls her eyes again at her

Speaker 2 so Ivy comes over that's Wendy's sister and

Speaker 2 they're gonna they and Wendy announces that she's also invited her mom to come over who will be arriving later

Speaker 2 so they go outside to catch up and Wendy is talking about how she's still really upset that her dad didn't like reach out to her for her birthday and she also tells a story about how basically the entire family went over to Nigeria and Ivy hasn't even seen her dad in 20 years.

Speaker 2 And they're all over there. And the dad's like, oh, sorry, I don't really feel well.
I don't think I can make it and see you guys. And Wendy's kind of like, what the fuck? Like, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 Like, and she has this feeling of like, you know, maybe if. if he saw me and saw that I turned out great, he'd be like, okay, I want her to be in my life.

Speaker 2 And Ivy's like, yeah, he knows you're doing great. You're on TV.
He knows.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she said, it's not that he doesn't want you, Wendy. It's just that he's learned to live his life without us in it.

Speaker 1 And so it's sad. You know, it's like a loser dad.
It was sad. Dad being a loser.

Speaker 1 And Susan comes in, and here's part of this. And she's like, well, I was just saying I was hurt because I didn't get to see dad.
And she goes, he's miserable.

Speaker 2 And then Ivy's like, well, I don't know. It's like, hold on, Missy.

Speaker 2 I don't know how she's like, shuts up, Ivy. She's like, hold on, Missy.

Speaker 2 Susan's talking. A star has arrived.
Your father could have 200 children if he wants, but you know what? Your father can only have one, Wendy. And Ivy's like, that's right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so she's like, and let me tell you something. He feels like he's the odd man out.
And you guys are so successful. You're doing so well.

Speaker 1 Look how you're taking care of me. Look at me.
I'm the one enjoying your money. Look at this money.
Look at this purse. Look at this outfit.
She's like doing twirls. She's like, fuck that guy.

Speaker 1 You don't have enough money to take care of both of us anyway.

Speaker 1 Him, hold on to pictures right now of this purse.

Speaker 2 Uh, it's a very funny moment that maybe did not age as well from when it was shot.

Speaker 1 It really,

Speaker 1 oh, yeah, I really didn't because she's like bragging about the money, literally twirling around.

Speaker 1 And then she goes inside where there's workmen everywhere, and she's like, Oh, just put the expensive stuff in it in it. Wendy's got the budget, baby.
Wendy's got the budget. It's like, oh,

Speaker 2 now we see how it now. We see see where it all started.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Yeek. Yeek.

Speaker 1 So that's

Speaker 2 one of those nice cringy scenes that wouldn't have been cringey six months ago. So now we have here, okay, here it is, main event, everyone.

Speaker 2 Lunchtime with Ashley, Kieran, and Monique, Stacey, and Wendy.

Speaker 2 This is the big, big event. So Ashley and Kieran arrive first.

Speaker 3 And Ashley's like, well, the big thing today is that I just want Stacey to hear us because like at a reasonably be at the reasonably shady party, it was all like very loud.

Speaker 3 It was just like so much commotion. So I thought the message kind of got lost in translation.
I thought it'd be more fun to like humiliate her in a public space with strangers around.

Speaker 1 Yep. She's like, well, we keep trying to get Stacy and we can't get her.
So we're going to try again today, this time in a different formation at lunch.

Speaker 1 So Ashley's like, you know, I don't know if she's going to be upset or clock Stacy and check her. I don't know.
So they're all excited about this.

Speaker 1 So Monique comes and Monique's like, yeah, I don't know what I'm walking into, but if memory serves,

Speaker 1 they're starting some shit with me. So, but listen, I'm maintaining my peace.
I've got a hairdo like the top of a Crowned Royale bottle. And

Speaker 1 I'm ready. Ready for whatever.
We haven't even talked about her hair. It's in braids that come up to like a crown.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. I love it.

Speaker 2 It's got height. It's architectural.

Speaker 2 So Monique comes in and she is wearing her her oils. So already, they're already buttering her up because Kieran's like, oh, I need those oils.

Speaker 2 I really need those oils. Your oils are so great.
It's like the first time ever that someone actually complimented her oils that she's been pushing. She's like, it's my signature scent.

Speaker 2 So it's very calming.

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Speaker 1 podcasts, and welcome back to the show. Even nature sounds.

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Speaker 2 So So then Kierna is,

Speaker 2 Kierana's like, if the oil is going to help me, I'll take it.

Speaker 3 So she goes, I want, she's like, I want to talk to you because like you were a topic of discussion, Giselle's party.

Speaker 2 And Monique's like, well, I don't really know what the story was. I mean, the first thing that comes to my mind is who was it?

Speaker 2 Tia, you know, Tia, she asked, like, what, what was the moment that you knew it was done with Chris? Like, that's all that happened at that lunch, right?

Speaker 2 And Kieran is like, yeah, well, that was so genuine of you to even share that with us. And then I left the the event and we were all, that we were all together at, and I'm on the phone with Cookie.

Speaker 2 And she's like, hey, Stacey just called and said that Monisha, no, Monique trashed him today. And I'm like, this is crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 She said he, that Stacy immediately called Chris. Well, it looks like Cookie immediately called Chris.
So why is Cookie immediately calling Chris after?

Speaker 1 This is all crazy. So Ashley's like, well, you were so vulnerable and you trusted.
And then to go call Chris of all people. How could Stacey do that?

Speaker 1 And Monique's like, well, I mean, I don't even know the truth because you're dealing with people who twist truths. And Stacy could have called Chris and she could have said exactly what was said.

Speaker 1 And then he could have spun it and said, oh, they were talking about me. And then you add Cookie into it with her lying ass, you know? So I liked Monique here.
She's like, okay.

Speaker 1 She's like, okay, there's a lot of people I don't trust in this story. Two of them are Cookie and Chris.

Speaker 1 So you want me to be mad at this other chick, but I've been crossed many times by the other two. So I'm not sure why you want me to be mad at this lady

Speaker 2 yeah exactly moni kind of sees it the way i see it i think that you see it as well it's like yeah maybe stacy did say something but for sure it probably gets like amped up to horrifying you know horrifying levels by each each messenger from chris to cookie and let's not forget kierna too so monique is kind of like yeah i don't really like maybe she said something but like those were the ones that like you shouldn't be trusting

Speaker 2 you're going after stacy but chris and cookie are the ones that are like the unreliable narrators here.

Speaker 1 And she says, you know, you can tell them what was said, but don't twist it. I mean, tell them exactly what was said.
But here's the thing. If it was Stacy, she did tell them what was said.

Speaker 1 You did say the piece of meat thing. And that's all we've heard that she said.
So who knows? So then

Speaker 1 Monique, let's see. So who comes in here?

Speaker 2 Wendy comes in. Wendy comes in next.
Yeah. They all compliment each other's boobs.
And then Monique is like, well, they're just too.

Speaker 1 They do. That's how Ben and I I start lunch too.
We're like, ooh, those boobs are boobing, Ben, looking good, baby.

Speaker 2 Yeah, my man boobs are extra perky after Thanksgiving. So Monique is like, they were just catching me up on some of the drama and

Speaker 2 they're talking about that. And Wendy's like, you know, you know, I met with her and she's very adamant that she did not call Chris.
And I'll let her speak for herself.

Speaker 2 But actually, I also told her that I wanted her to meet you. so that you and you kiana you you guys can have a conversation oh i wish i wanted her to meet you Monique, to have a conversation.

Speaker 2 And she basically is, so she, so Wendy says, what Stacey also said was that when Cherise was on the phone with him and Monique goes, Cherise?

Speaker 1 Like, wait, how did Cherise get in this?

Speaker 2 She has this look on her face like, now I'm confused.

Speaker 1 I know. It's so funny because they're trying to make Stacy messy, but they're the ones talking about her and her marriage constantly and calling Chris.
So she's like, what the hell?

Speaker 1 So she's like, but we wanted to call Chris just to see if it was valid. So when Tarwe made the phone call, Tarweeth then asked him, did Stacy call you yes and no? And Chris said no.

Speaker 1 And so Wendy's like, well, when I met with Stacy and Jazzy, she mentioned that she is willing to have a conversation with you, but Kierana, she doesn't want to have a conversation with you.

Speaker 1 And Kierana's like, well, I have zero desire in fake fraud ass bitch. So.
And then Stacy comes in.

Speaker 2 It's like you're being the fake one. You're the one who actually attached yourself to this lunch.
It has nothing to do.

Speaker 2 I guess maybe it has something to do with Kirina because Kirna received the call from Cookie, but still so um when so stacy arrives and wendy's like well i'm so glad that you came and i spoke to the ladies and i informed them of the conditions in which you wanted to speak to monique i'm like

Speaker 1 what sort of spy swap is this it's like they're acting like it's literally like 1987 and we're like exchange like us and russia are having some sort of like negotiations yeah they're sitting on a park bench just staring ahead pretending they're eating a sacked lunch or something um yeah it's pretty ridiculous but also i think this is is unfair that it was, okay, let's get earlier call times for the people who want to make their case against Stacy without letting Stacy hear what they're telling Monique.

Speaker 1 You know, that wasn't cool. Yes.
So

Speaker 1 Stacy comes in and Monique's like, listen, we come in peace. It's okay.
You don't have to be nervous. And Stacey's like, okay, thank you.
But, you know, she's still very reserved.

Speaker 1 And so Wendy's like, well, I informed them in which the, just to repeat it again, because it's so funny.

Speaker 1 I spoke to the lady and I informed them of the conditions in which you wanted to speak to monique and you did not want to have a conversation with kiana or ashley she goes well i would like to sit with you and wendy to talk but i will not i do not want to sit at the table as it is

Speaker 2 monique's like okay well i want to make sure that i'm getting all the information and i don't want to do the whole back and forth thing and kierna's like you know what guys i want ashy on the bar ladies it's been run so kierna like leaves That's her favorite thing to do.

Speaker 2 She leaves. And Ashley looks so upset.
Ashley's like, but you were supposed supposed to get messy and you were supposed to fight with stacy why are you leaving

Speaker 1 let me produce let a producer produce the show so ash is like well okay monique do you have the facts do you feel like you have the facts are they relayed to appropriately have you been told that you have the right to an attorney if you'd like to and kierana is saying well i choose to believe because a i leave because a i already don't give a and b i already know you're about to lie and see this is a monique and stacy conversation and the fact that you're acting like i'm the threat when you're the scariest bitch in in the room is crazy to me.

Speaker 1 So you are the one who always scary

Speaker 2 every single time. She's not scary.

Speaker 1 So Monique's like, okay, what happened at the table after Pride? Okay, because I was being vulnerable. I didn't know you were still in contact with Chris.

Speaker 1 And I don't associate people who associate with my ex-husband. And she's like, I've never dated Chris.
She goes, okay, well, I thought you dated. I thought that's what Chris said.

Speaker 1 And she goes, I've never dated Chris. Never.
And we see flashbacks to her telling the girls when Ashley's like, have you ever dated Chris? And she goes, we've hung out, yes.

Speaker 1 And so Ashley's like, well, that's not the word on the curb.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So Stacey's like, I did not call Chris. When he received the magazine

Speaker 2 Potomac Lifestyle with

Speaker 2 me and my daughter, Arabella, on the cover, he sent me a message. He said, beautiful.
I did not answer because I was not talking to your husband. And he continued, thank you would be appropriate.

Speaker 2 I still did not respond. And then he and then he said, hey, hit me up.
I've been hearing that my name is coming up in filming. So

Speaker 2 I think that's, those are pretty good receipts in my mind personally.

Speaker 2 Like even if she deleted some responses, if he's saying thank you would be appropriate, you don't say that unless someone's not responding to you. And then if she's just said something to him

Speaker 2 and he would not say, hey,

Speaker 2 Hit me up. I've heard that my name's been coming up.
If she's the one who told him that unless they like hashed a plan to clear her name, which I honestly don't see that.

Speaker 2 I don't see him doing that, honestly. I think that's too much work for him.

Speaker 1 And also, what was the date of, hey, hit me up? I've been hearing that my name is coming up in filming. Was it that day, right before she called?

Speaker 1 Because they said that she left the event and immediately called Chris. So did he just happen to know they were filming and then texted her right away to get the

Speaker 1 information? Or, I mean, dates are important, but I think so far that's pretty much out of the realm. Yeah, I think pretty much this sounds like she's saying.

Speaker 1 Like you said, you wouldn't say, hey, thank you would be appropriate appropriate if you were texting him back.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think that, um, I think these receipts are pretty strong. I, they could have been manipulated, but I think they're pretty strong.

Speaker 2 And I think that Monique's explanation of how things probably went down was pretty strong.

Speaker 2 So like, so far, this has been a big flop confrontation on Ashley's part, I think, because I think that, like, I think it looks pretty good for Stacy in this situation.

Speaker 1 So it's funny how everybody hears one thing and takes it their own way. So Monique takes it this way.
She's like, oh, so you're saying he's stalking you?

Speaker 1 Stacy's like, well, he sent me these messages June 1st. And Monique's like, okay, well, that's before.
Okay. So that disregard everything I just said.

Speaker 1 So she's like, yeah, okay, well, that's before I even met you. So that means he's been finding out stuff prior.
And Stacy's like, exactly. Thank you so much.
Be the rainbow in someone else's cloud.

Speaker 1 Exactly what I was trying to say. And Ashley's like, oh, but you had his number.
Okay. Okay.
Ashley.

Speaker 2 They're friends. Now, I will say, I think Chris saying thank you would be appropriate.
Like, that's a weird thing to say to a friend.

Speaker 2 That's definitely someone you would say to someone who, like, you had some sort of like romantic thing with where it like maybe kind of fizzled out, but there was like some weirdness. I don't know.

Speaker 2 Like, so it's no matter what, it's a rude thing for him to say.

Speaker 1 But Stacey said she's talked to Chris and that she's friends with Chris and he's a wonderful guy and this and that, but they're just not dating.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So either way,

Speaker 2 Ashley is like, Ashley thinks she's onto something about it, but you had his number. And they said, she's like, she said she's friends with him.

Speaker 3 So Ashley's like, everybody know how, knows how text messaging works. You can delete that fast, quick, and in a hurry, and no one would be any wiser.

Speaker 1 So fraudulent receipts.

Speaker 2 I'm like, well, maybe you're just describing how you move. I don't know if that necessarily implicates Stacy.
But yes, that isn't, that isn't.

Speaker 1 Well, she's wrong.

Speaker 1 But even if there were deleted texts in there, the way that he was responding would imply that it is what it is.

Speaker 2 Exactly. So Wendy's like, so Quiz knew about the conversations happening in the group.
That means that there's someone else. And Monique is like leaking whatever information to him.

Speaker 2 And ladies and gentlemen, a new leak on Bravo has arrived.

Speaker 1 It's a leak storyline.

Speaker 2 It's a leak. But I think this is a good leak.
I think this is a good leak storyline because it's like not to the mass media. It's just to someone in the group.
And it's like kind of a messy situation.

Speaker 2 So I support this leak.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's not a blogger leak so wendy is like child let me put on my detective wig and narrow down the suspects so she gets her clue moment and she's like kiana prime suspect number one because why are you even taking quads from cookie both kiana and cookie don't like stacy and maybe it's the twine to implicate her in the scene of the crime

Speaker 2 And also, we know that Kiarna remembers things incorrectly. This has not been brought up, but earlier in the season,

Speaker 2 Kiarna said that she chin-checked Angel, and then she denied that she ever said it, but it was clear that she actually said it.

Speaker 2 And she also remembers that Wendy made the catfish comment, which was incorrect. It was Giselle who said it.

Speaker 2 So Kiarna has an unreliable memory, and it's possible that Kiarna and Cookie were talking about things, and then somehow like the lines get crossed in her brain.

Speaker 2 And maybe she actually like said something. And then she somehow was like having cookie.
I don't know. Like, I just, I think Kierana is not a very reliable source in general.

Speaker 1 Yes. Suspect number two: Angel.
Because we know that Angel's husband and Quis Samuels know each other. Wag wag.
Maybe Angel told Bobby and Bobby, and Bobby went and told Quiz. And then there's this is

Speaker 1 yeah, that's that could that could have happened, but that's doubtful.

Speaker 2 I think that's the strong. I actually think, no, I think that's the strongest one.
I think Angel tells Bob

Speaker 2 100%

Speaker 2 because Angel. We've seen Angel calls up Bobby after any

Speaker 2 little moment, like when and Nevis,

Speaker 2 when

Speaker 2 she's like upset after the cat she calls up bobby she's she's crying on the phone she tells bobby everything it's totally if if chris is bobby's mentor and it's in the wag circle i think that's a totally viable um explanation for how it gets back to chris but the guys made it sound like they're remember when they said mentor in the beginning of the season but it was like oh yeah we know him but not that well So I just don't know that they're going to be that like two big sports guys are going to be messy enough to do do that, but maybe.

Speaker 1 Oh, oh my God.

Speaker 2 Straight men are so much messier than women. That's the thing.

Speaker 1 That is the, that,

Speaker 2 that is, that is the, the biggest lie is that women are gossips, uh, like primarily the gossips in like the world. It's no, it's straight men are the biggest gossips and everyone knows it.

Speaker 2 And if you think for one moment that Bobby Massey did not text Chris and say, hey, I hear, I hear they're dragging you into the mess of this show. Ha ha ha.
How do you deal with this?

Speaker 2 Is this going to happen to me? Like, I 100%, like a little text text like that comes up, and Chris is like, what do you mean? And then it comes out.

Speaker 2 Like, I 100% see how this happens very cleanly and very quickly.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So then, thus back number three, Giselle. We know Giselle loves Beth, and she's been cozy with Cookie ever since Karen went to jail.
And of course, we can't rule out Stacy.

Speaker 1 Stacy's lied in the past, and she's lied in the present, and she's probably going to lie in the future.

Speaker 1 Which, no matter how much you love stacy that shit was funny that's funny and she's like whoever it is you can run but you can't hide so i'm gonna go with um kierna and cookie cooking this stuff up

Speaker 1 although last week i kind of believed it was stacy so i don't know because last week i was thinking well you know the stuff is adding up against stacy but it's because they keep throwing shit at stacy constantly they won't stop throwing shit at her so of course it's it's like today when they didn't win then they come in with the oh yeah and she was also trying to bang a married man at a bar.

Speaker 1 You know, they're, they're constantly throwing stuff. So I don't know.
I just don't know.

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 2 think

Speaker 2 that,

Speaker 2 so here's the other thing. Here's why I think Stacy may be exonerated.
If Stacy called Chris and said, hey, they're talking about you. This is, this is what Monique said.
And then Chris calls Cookie.

Speaker 2 And then, and then this all comes out. Stacy's confronted about this that like, oh, you were, you were telling Cookie, whatever.
That would happen a few days afterwards.

Speaker 2 If Chris texts her i would like to not i'd like to see the timestamp on when chris texted stacy to say hey i hear they're talking about me filming and filming what's the deal

Speaker 2 if there was a if if there was a situation where she called him and said this is what they're saying i don't think she would have had the foresight to say now text me this phrase so that way it looks like i didn't tell you that way i can prove it to the women because i don't think

Speaker 2 She doesn't know that it's coming out to the other women until after the fact. So if he's texting her that on that day, I don't think that she's hatched that plan.

Speaker 2 I don't think that she's texted him something and then said, Hey, text this back so I can delete with the text I just sent you. I just don't think she's operating on that level.

Speaker 2 So, I think the fact that he said, I hear they are

Speaker 2 talking about me in filming, my name came up. What's going on? I think that exonerates her pretty well.
And I also think let's not, let's not also breeze over Giselle.

Speaker 2 It's totally viable that Giselle told Cookie. Cookie tells Chris, Chris calls Cookie back, or Cookie texts Chris.

Speaker 2 Chris calls Cookie back, she's on the phone with it. Like, I think Giselle is at a very, very, very viable leak in this situation.

Speaker 1 Yeah, as, as, as, you know, as much as Kierana, because they're both friends with Cookie, right?

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 Ashley, of course, is like, okay, sorry, I'm going to go check on Kay because, of course, Messi Ash Ashley, Messi, you know what I'm trying to say. Messy Ash Ashley

Speaker 1 has to run over and give Kirina all the information of what's going on at the table.

Speaker 2 By the way, why is Ashley not implicated in all this? Maybe Ashley is the leak. And that's, this is the big misdirect, because like Ashley's also friends with Cookie.

Speaker 2 They were all together at brunch at like the Tally Ho not so long ago, right? So Asha could have called Cookie. Yeah.
He's the messiest.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 Monique is like, well, I'm not a person that moves off of other people's experiences. I just wanted to know what happened and hear your side of it.
And so

Speaker 1 Monique's like, I don't know who to believe. And Stacey's like, well, I don't want to be involved in your family.
And And she goes, okay, but let's be 100. I'm fine with that.

Speaker 1 And I'm not here to like start an argument or fuss and fight. My concern is the fact that I just want you to be careful with the situation because here's the thing.
Like Chris is messy, okay?

Speaker 1 And he's pulling you into his mess. And I divorced him for a reason.
And there's a lot of things that people don't know. And that's why I'm saying be very careful with Chris.
Okay.

Speaker 1 He's the one to be scared of, not me, basically.

Speaker 2 That was a nice piece of advice Monique gave.

Speaker 2 That was nice. And she didn't have to do that.

Speaker 2 Also, and the episode ends there, but one thing I just want to point out before we wrap this up: when Kierana went to the bar, did you notice? She's like, I'm going to the bar.

Speaker 2 I don't want to be involved in this. She goes to the bar and then she's wiping tears away like Candace with like a cry angle.
I'm like,

Speaker 1 why are you crying?

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 2 Are you sad that you got pushed out of a scene by your own doing?

Speaker 1 Like, what is wrong with you? She's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 She's acting all victimized. So, yeah, it's pretty ridiculous, but fun episode.

Speaker 2 So good. I actually love this like little detective moment at the end because I actually, this is a leak I'm actually invested in because I feel like I know all the players.

Speaker 2 I feel like I have a reasonable amount of

Speaker 2 evidence. I feel like I can make reasonably shady guesses.

Speaker 2 And it's just, it's so much more concrete and contained within the world of the show than any talk about like who leaked what to what blogger and what podcasts. So I'm totally in it.
I'm invested.

Speaker 1 But it's a mystery. I don't know that we're ever going to get a you know answer to, which is annoying.

Speaker 2 But yeah, unless we hear from Chris.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll see everybody. Well, thank you all for being with us.
This has been a good time. We will be back later with a married to medicine recap.

Speaker 1 And then today we have both Amazon Live and Crappy Hour. So we will see you for those and we'll talk to you guys soon.

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