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Speaker 2 Hi everyone, welcome back. This is part two of a two-part recap.
If you're wondering where part one was, well go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe so that way you always get your episodes.

Speaker 2 But enough of that, let's get right back into the episode.

Speaker 2 So, um, Heather's like, last time I heard about Todd, he was looking at lingerie pictures on his iPad and sleeping at a hotel.

Speaker 2 So now they're happy, monogamous, and Bronwyn would never dare clutch my pearls. Thinking of hooking up with a Greek man, I just can't keep it straight.

Speaker 1 So she's like, Well, let's be fair. She said, Bronwyn, I noticed you're not wearing your wedding ring.
Is there something you want to announce?

Speaker 1 And you were like, Well, Todd moved out, and I was really hooked into that story, Bronwyn. Are you taking back the story? I really loved it.

Speaker 2 Yep, uh-huh. And I'm not wearing my wedding ring today, uh-huh.
And I don't wear it a lot of times because I wear different jewelry all the time.

Speaker 2 So I don't really know what you're trying to prove here.

Speaker 1 So that was all a ruse that that whole conversation you had with Withy?

Speaker 2 No, no, no. You might have added two plus two and gotten five there.
So, you know, maybe it's your math that's off when you're just trying to repeat the things that I said.

Speaker 2 I think you got your math wrong. Two plus two equals five.
Yeah. Unfortunately, no.

Speaker 1 Well, just to be fair to Bronwyn, the conversation.

Speaker 1 To be fair to her, the conversation really was Bronwyn saying, we don't have an open relationship, but I'm open to having an open relationship.

Speaker 1 But even in that conversation, she was so wiffly waffly about what she was saying. Withly waffly.
It sounded like she did have an open relationship, but wasn't ready to admit the open relationship.

Speaker 1 And her and Whitney were kind of talking around the fact that they're both probably fucking other people at this point, but they wouldn't, they wouldn't go that far on camera.

Speaker 1 So the whole thing was kind of confusing.

Speaker 1 But also, even though I think Bromwyn's being a liar and she's being ridiculous and it's getting on my nerves, I still am like, Heather, it's not really your business.

Speaker 1 She could be

Speaker 1 that one she wants, you know.

Speaker 2 Agreed. And you're right.
Bronwyn said, we we are open to being open.

Speaker 2 We're open to having the, I'm open to having the conversation, but that's just too nuanced for the likes of like Heather and Whitney. They just hear like open.
That's all they hear. So

Speaker 2 it just, I guess it's funny because sometimes

Speaker 2 she's tonally inconsistent sometimes where she's like, like, girlfriend, here's how it is. And I said to Todd, you better get to the motel.
Am I right?

Speaker 1 High five, everyone.

Speaker 2 And then suddenly she's like,

Speaker 2 she becomes muzzy. She's like, we're not going to talk about about that.

Speaker 1 It's true.

Speaker 2 Everything's fine. Everything's fine.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 1 And the reason I'm going to still kind of stay on her side, even though I think she's full of shit and they're right, is because once again, here we have someone kind of refusing to do what they want her to do.

Speaker 1 And so they're going to turn on her in public. Right.

Speaker 1 So we have Whitney who's like, no, no, no, because now she's mad at Bromwyn for releasing the information about the relation, the conversation she had had with Meredith.

Speaker 1 So it's just what they did with Meredith. They're like, Meredith, you want to come against Lisa with us? And she's like, no.
So then they turn on Meredith and say she's a drunk on a plane.

Speaker 1 Then you've got Whitney going, okay, well, I'm going to talk to you about this thing I'm about to do to Meredith, accusing her of being a drug addict. And then she goes and tells Meredith.

Speaker 1 And so now we're going to get you about your open relationship. Because they could be asking Whitney the same thing.
Like, who are you fucking?

Speaker 1 You were sitting there talking about an open relationship too.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I also think that there's probably an element where Bromwyn does not want to discuss any of this in front of Lisa Barlow because Lisa Barlow was the one who was like, Todd's like cheating and like farting while making out.

Speaker 2 And I don't think that she, remember, because that was like, that broke the truce that they had made.

Speaker 2 So I also think that like maybe she would be down to like go into this more if it was just like Heather and Whitney and Mary or I don't know or whatever.

Speaker 2 But I think knowing that she's in the presence of Lisa, who's going to like use anything you say in her mind, use anything you say against you.

Speaker 2 She's like, I'm not talking about this here at this table. This is not, this is not up for discussion right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, I mean, don't bring it up.

Speaker 1 My gosh. So Whitney's like, well, yeah, but at this point, it's not so much about the details or the story.
It's what does Bromwin want us to think?

Speaker 1 Because she put all this out there about a relationship and now she's backpiddling. So I'm just kind of like, what happened? And what's real?

Speaker 2 Whitney picks up a pillow. Is this real?

Speaker 2 What about this chair? Is this real?

Speaker 1 It's like, okay, you you don't have to question that everything is real am i in the metrics so mary who's oddly the voice of reason this season which is super weird but i'm into because she's so funny but she's like so bronwin you can't pretend like it didn't happen i mean when you say stuff and you put it out there it comes across as there's trouble and then you come back and you bring it back up like you can't pretend like you don't know what we're talking about or you don't know what heather's saying and she's like but i know what heather's saying

Speaker 1 but i didn't say to heather that todd moved out i didn't say that we separated. I didn't say that.
I didn't. I didn't.
I just insinuated.

Speaker 2 Your words were, I asked him to leave and you didn't say it in Greek, which I did not appreciate.

Speaker 1 But that's true. I mean, she is kind of playing the Meredith fight where she's like, well, I didn't technically say that.

Speaker 1 She didn't. She didn't say they separated, you know, and she didn't say he moved out.
She said she kicked him out when she got mad at him and he had to stay in a hotel. So

Speaker 1 Angie is like trying to harp on it. And Heather's like, but you said it to the whole group.
Am I reading it wrong?

Speaker 2 well this is just like so weird this is so weird that i came to you guys like i came to you guys like really honestly and i don't have to explain anything that happens in my house

Speaker 2 but i'm like that's the point is that you came to them honestly and now they're trying to like kind of be gal pally kind of like hey we're following up on what you said and now you're acting like you never said in the first place

Speaker 1 Yes, and that's true because it's just crazy because they're all wrong so many times. This doesn't even work.
That's true.

Speaker 1 But again, this is Heather being like, um, I'm going to take one thing you said and now make it sound like you're going to be openly fucking guys in Greece. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 She's taking like, I got mad at Todd, and if Todd wanted an open relationship, I'd be down for that. She's taking that into like, why, you know, who do you want to fucking grease?

Speaker 1 She's taking it to a whole nother level. And then when you don't agree with her, she's like, but am I the only one hearing this? Am I taking crazy pills?

Speaker 1 Well, kind of, because you're exaggerating something that's not the truth.

Speaker 2 Bronwyn, I was not there, so I didn't hear any of this.

Speaker 1 I also am hard of hearing.

Speaker 2 Okay, just want to remind everyone, but I've stood in your shoes, so I support the position that you're in. But from my past experience, this is probably not the end of it with this group.

Speaker 2 I'm just telling you that that was my experience. And maybe next time you might want to pack an easy, breezy blazer.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 1 Not only will it not end, you're going to start seeing TikTok dances about Todd wanting to look at porn on his iPad.

Speaker 2 There was no judgment on my end. I mean, you were very open about it.
Oh, no, you can judge me. That's fine too.
That's fine. I'm totally like chill with you judging me.

Speaker 2 As you can see, I'm totally, totally chill. Well, what I want to know is if Lisa Barlow is going to hook up with the Greek guy.
God, look at that. Bringing levity to situation.

Speaker 1 that I made tense. And Lisa's like, um, you know what? John is Russian, German, Joe, and I'll just stick with that.
That's like enough.

Speaker 1 That's like three different kinds of guys that can buy me a Porsche.

Speaker 2 I'm like South Psychographies.

Speaker 2 So now they go back to the villa, and they have to be ready at 6.45 because they're going to go shopping and go to dinner in like in town and everything. So everyone's getting ready.

Speaker 2 And Heather knocks on Mary's door and Heather's like, okay, all right, let's close the door for this conversation. I don't know what's going on with Meredith.

Speaker 2 For someone that I feel like I have such a good relationship with in this sisterhood, it blows my mind that she can make little cutting comments and call me a liar and never really like truly apologize and make it right.

Speaker 2 We just move on like nothing ever happened.

Speaker 1 Could you just make that shorter? Sure. So I'm coming into your room to enlist you to have a fight with Meredith by proxy so I don't have to.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Got it.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 Jesus, I'm bored. It's like, oh my God, this fight's so stupid.
So Meredith has pulled Heather aside. She wants to talk one-on-one, but Heather's not interested in one-on-one because

Speaker 1 she says that Meredith will twist and turn anything she says in private and make it into something else, which is what I've been accusing Heather of this whole season. So I'm like, okay.

Speaker 2 Heather wants witnesses and she also wants to have like the primary fight of the episode.

Speaker 1 So and she wants everybody to fight Meredith for her because if it's just her, you know, she's, she's not going to win. She needs everybody there, you know, beating the one person down.

Speaker 1 That's how she rolls.

Speaker 2 So Heather's saying basically, basically, like by not engaging with me, she's actually dismissing my friendship. And Mary says, well, okay, well, then say it to her face.

Speaker 2 I mean, you need to be more direct and tell her how you feel because she listens to you.

Speaker 2 She goes, well, I don't know what to say to her because I've been so direct and she takes it as a personal attack. I mean, every single time I tell her.

Speaker 2 that she's, you know, totally unreliable and she's a monster on a plane and she should have been locked up by TSA, she just takes that as a personal attack. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. I like how she says Meredith won't engage.
She's engaged with you every single time you brought it up. You just don't like the answer, which is you're a liar.

Speaker 1 And so Mary's like, well, I was raised to tell people how I feel and be honest, but I don't think that these women are capable of being able to just say how they honestly feel just because they worry about things that don't matter, like other people's feelings.

Speaker 1 Just kidding. I said, I'm a preacher.
Did I just say that? Okay.

Speaker 2 So now everyone's ready except for Lisa and Angie's ready to go because like

Speaker 2 Angie wants to go out to the town. The sun will be setting, it'll be beautiful, blah, blah, blah.
And, but Lisa is still in glam.

Speaker 2 Angie's like, we are on the other side of the world, and you've got people here to powder your nose.

Speaker 2 It's a reflection of what Lisa feels is the most important in life, not what's on the inside, but what people see on the outside. This is Angie's new thing that she's doing this episode.

Speaker 2 Like, she says it like 10 more times. She cares about the outside, not on the inside, but doesn't, don't you realize the best part of Spani Copata is not the phylo, it's the spinach and the feta.

Speaker 1 So they all get into a golf cart. And meanwhile, Lisa's just in glam, like, make it Greeker.
Give me the Greekest makeup you can. I just like put Suziki on my eyes.
I don't even care.

Speaker 1 I want to be the Greekest person at dinner.

Speaker 2 Lisa's never been happier. She is sitting there.
She's getting, someone's putting makeup on her face. She is like so happy.

Speaker 1 She's like, oh, I love that.

Speaker 2 Show me your brush. That's a nice brush.
That's a really nice brush. Wait a second.
What do you have there? Is that a pencil? Can I see the pencil? Oh my God, such a nice pencil.

Speaker 2 You have a cartier watch. I know you didn't because you're not a copycat.
I love you so much.

Speaker 1 So they just leave Lisa. And now they're walking down the street in Greece.
And Whitney's like, should I put my thumb out?

Speaker 1 Wait, maybe that's offensive in Greek.

Speaker 2 And then she just falls.

Speaker 1 And she just falls.

Speaker 2 She wipes out. Like, actually.

Speaker 2 I am impressed that A, she didn't rip anything. She didn't have any like scrapes or wasn't bleeding.
I mean, that was like, she wiped out half on asphalt, half on gravel.

Speaker 2 I mean, I feel like, and, and of all the times that Heather could have made a joke, be like, wow, she's so unsteady in Utah.

Speaker 2 We should have known that when she came to Greeks, wow, where are the Greek gods to help her now? I mean, she was sliding down to Hades with the way she felt.

Speaker 2 I mean, like, this is like a Heather moment. She didn't even say anything.

Speaker 1 So some hot guy comes and helps her up and Whitney's like, Heather, a hot guy came and saved me.

Speaker 2 If you were driving, if you were on those motorists and saw Whitney wipe out for no good reason on the side of the road,

Speaker 2 like, could you even imagine? Could you even imagine just seeing Whitney wipe out on the side of the road?

Speaker 1 I would honk.

Speaker 1 She's like, I want to.

Speaker 2 Wait, everyone.

Speaker 2 I want to do, this is my new visual presentation of what happened to Wild Rose Beauty.

Speaker 1 Why haven't we mentioned Prism? Where's that?

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I'm just curious. Why haven't they mentioned that yet?

Speaker 1 Uh,

Speaker 1 wild rose,

Speaker 1 no, because wild rose beauty is the beauty products, and then prism was the jewelry line where she was buying everything from Alibaba and then marking it up times 200 or whatever.

Speaker 1 That was last year's thing. So, anyway, Angie's like, or two years ago, I don't remember.
So, Angie's like, I wonder what Lisa's doing now. She's probably still in Glem.

Speaker 1 And Heather's like, How long does it take to do Glam? And they're all like, Oh my God, it took me two seconds. And Whitney's like, yeah, I did my own glam with Heather's makeup.
Like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 You guys are all so ridiculous. You all do glam.
Just stop.

Speaker 2 Well, to be fair, Whitney does look like the Joker. She has like her lipstick going up to her cheek.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know. I don't know that I would trust all of your own glam anyway.
Look at Britney. Britney looks like she's doing kabuki theater over there.

Speaker 1 She's got like a completely white face and then the rest of her is like tan.

Speaker 2 So Heather says, I mean, I would hate to be crippled with that type of insecurity about my physical appearance that i would arrive alone but clearly confidence and insecurity are not a problem for lisa barlow i'm like heather have you

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 you're on your 30th face

Speaker 2 i don't i don't i i want to support people doing what they want to do for their for their faces and their insecurities but like stop acting like I mean, we've heard your story about the Bolero jacket, okay?

Speaker 1 Your entire, your entire, your entire persona is about insecurity and how you've meant been made to feel insecure by the mormon church your whole industry is built on insecurity your entire empire is built on just stop just stop it right now i was cracking up at that just heather like with that face wow like

Speaker 1 people's insecurity so sad

Speaker 2 now this here's what i will say i do love that by and large they you know like roney

Speaker 2 salt lake city by and large the glam is not a major presence. Like on Roni, they didn't even have glam squads, really.
I don't think until

Speaker 2 Ebony showed up and she had like a glam squad down, remember in the basement, like Ramona's basement or something.

Speaker 1 But like,

Speaker 2 I, you know, as opposed to Beverly Hills, where it's just like endless, endless glam squad, you know, the glam squads, I believe, single-handedly ruined Beverly Hills. And

Speaker 2 that's really all I have to say about that. I don't really have anywhere to go with that, except like, let's.

Speaker 1 Well, it's like, I think you're saying, like, normally it's, you know, you would be complaining about the glam stuff too if it's overdone but like in this case it's hilarious because lisa's so attached to it and like when they showed the clip of her being in palm springs and refusing to you know not bring her glam person being like i have a glam person in san trope i have a glam person in capri i have a glam person in nangie's porsche like everywhere

Speaker 1 It feels sometimes like it's all she has.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like let her have it.

Speaker 2 Let her have it.

Speaker 2 So, well, it's also funny. Like, like, it's one thing if you say, like, I don't like that Lisa is putting glam in front of, like, this friendship moment that we're all having.

Speaker 2 We're all going to go out together and she's putting glam before us. I think that's totally valid.
But to be like, she's so insecure that she has to have glam. I'm like,

Speaker 2 please. Secure people don't go on Real Housewives in the first place.
Let's also be honest.

Speaker 1 So Heather, Whitney, Brittany, and i say this as an insecure person myself hello well i'm insecure do i need to talk about the flat feet again i'm going to botox tomorrow i'm on the ozempic like i've got my my upper blef done listen i'm i think we all have it to a degree it's just hilarious that someone who's had that much work and it's done to the point that it's gotten now where it's to the point now it's like self-harm you know at this point it's like you you're looking like a child's toy stop it stop doing this to your soul in the name of insecurity you know people who live in glass med spas shouldn't shouldn't throw wrestle in.

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Speaker 2 they are

Speaker 2 they're walking around Santorini. They come around a corner where there's this really scenic view where you can see across the island.
It's like this beautiful shot.

Speaker 2 The lights are coming on and everything.

Speaker 2 Heather decides that she's going to cry because she knows it'll make a nice moment.

Speaker 2 And Angie's like, Heather's the friend that you want to take on a trip because she values the moment and she feels it so deeply and she is so grateful and she just takes it in.

Speaker 3 Meanwhile, Heather's like, there's the guy with the flamingo. I see him down there.

Speaker 1 I fucked that guy. No, you didn't.

Speaker 1 She's just so grateful and she just takes it in. And that's what I wanted for everyone.
That's what I wanted for Lisa. Oh, yeah.
You really wanted this nice moment for Lisa.

Speaker 1 Then why are you on her ass every scene of every episode? I wouldn't come early if I was Lisa either. I'd stay nice and cuddled up with my glam girl too.
You guys are relentless.

Speaker 1 Fight with somebody else.

Speaker 2 And also don't forget her glam girls from Athens.

Speaker 1 So pretty cool.

Speaker 2 So then Meredith Bronwyn and Mary are shopping and Mary's like, Meredith, Meredith, I feel like you and Heather have hit a rough spot. Well, I don't know.
I mean, I have to presume everything's fine.

Speaker 2 I mean, I, because I called her after last week. And she didn't call me back.
So if she wanted to talk, I would think she would call me back.

Speaker 2 And I said something to her also today, but she hasn't seemed to want to do that. So it's okay.
Like if she doesn't want to address it, that's fine. We can move on.

Speaker 2 But as far as I can tell, I'm kind of a bucket-shaped face trying to reach out to another bucket-shaped face. And she's acting very square face at the moment, if you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 She's like, you need to be vulnerable and talk to each other. And so then we go to Heather and Whitney and Angie and Brittany and Lisa comes up.
And she's like, oh my God, look at you guys. Hi.
Hi.

Speaker 1 How are you? Love that. Guess what? I'm basically Greek now.
I am Greek. I've been all over Greece.
It was amazing. Did you guys see the sunset? Look, I took selfies in the sunset.

Speaker 1 And it's so funny because while they were showing the ladies, like, oh my God, we're bonding. And Lisa is so shallow, not bonding at all.

Speaker 1 It kept cutting to Lisa walking by herself, just taking selfies at the sunset or like taking selfies

Speaker 1 in the store, just having the best time of her life.

Speaker 2 I can't figure Lisa out. Like, what really matters to you, the glam and the material things or your friendships.
I mean, you guys are all shopping right now.

Speaker 2 I don't know if you, because you're like angry that Lisa's missing out on shopping in Santorini. Like, I can't believe she cares about material things more than us.

Speaker 1 As we

Speaker 1 shopping material things. Yeah, exactly.
I love that I got to explore parts of Santorini by myself because I found some killer Berkenstocks and there wasn't any negativity. You know what?

Speaker 1 I love a little me time. And it's great because the Berks were like the only style that's ever been sold of this particular Berk.

Speaker 1 So I'm already, I've already got Berks that are better than everyone else's else's bergs my berks are great

Speaker 2 i love her santorini broken stocks so lisa is like yeah by the way like look i use this as like glam and spell like look at this isn't this nuts like it's me it's a selfie of me and when he's like is that your wallpaper yeah make it my wallpaper so we can keep seeing it isn't that great

Speaker 1 Of course, she has a selfie of herself as her wallpaper.

Speaker 1 Well, did you see any

Speaker 1 beautiful views? Yes, I did. I just showed it to you.
It's on my wallpaper. Stupid.
So Auntie's like, I mean, the fact that she would be what, two, three hours late and then be in sunglasses.

Speaker 1 That's just odds.

Speaker 2 I mean, I do think that sucks. I don't, I don't like that Lisa showed up three hours late to like, A, shooting and also being with your friends.
Like that is like,

Speaker 2 I think that you, I understand wanting to have alone time, but you use the designated time for your alone time. I don't know.
I think three hours would be too late.

Speaker 1 I do that all

Speaker 1 three trips where I'm like, okay, I'll see you later. I'm going to do this other thing.
And then I meet up with my friends later. And no one, no one yet has had a fit about it.

Speaker 2 I feel like on

Speaker 2 like a group trip, if I say, guys, I'm going to do my own thing. It's like, fine.
I kind of feel like on a real housewife show, just being like, I'm going to go. I don't know.

Speaker 2 I don't know. I think if you, if you're going to be like, I'll meet up with you and then you're three hours later.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 I find that that like, that's like oddly disrespectful versus like hey guys i'm just gonna do my own thing for this afternoon because i need some downtime i'm like sure do it but don't make me feel like you're showing up like 20 minutes later but you're just gonna be three hours later you know well if it was three hours because first i said two then it became three it's you know it's

Speaker 1 a salt lake city timing i'm just saying well i think she was saying i'm gonna go to dinner i'll meet you at dinner so she met them at dinner so look i just feel like they're all ganging up all the time so i'm just gonna give levity because

Speaker 1 they're not at all ever It's just

Speaker 1 constant. It's just fucking constant.
So I'm like, just do what you want. I don't blame you.

Speaker 2 I, you know what it is? I, I, I love when someone is like realistic with me about when they're going to meet up with me.

Speaker 2 And if someone says, I'll meet you out there, if I'm like excited, like if I'm like, oh my God, let's all do this thing together.

Speaker 2 If I've arranged something for us all to do together and someone says, I'll catch up with you. And then they don't show up for three hours or not at all, like that bothers me.
It really does.

Speaker 2 And it doesn't take away from the fact that like, I think there's a way to be like, I want to have, I'm just going to do my own thing.

Speaker 2 Like, I'm totally fine if someone says, I want to do my own thing, but don't let me think that you're going to be participating in the thing that I, like, the thing that I'm arranging. Did she?

Speaker 2 And then do your own thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think she did.

Speaker 2 I think she was like, I'll join you guys. Or like if, if, if Angie said, we're going to meet at 6:45 and she says, okay, sure, but then she has no intention of it.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't like that personally, but I meant to say that.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 So they go up to dinner. Did we see Lisa say that she was, what did Lisa say?

Speaker 1 Nothing. She was in glam.
She's like, bye.

Speaker 1 Okay, bye. They're like, we're leaving you.
And she said, okay, bye.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't think it's that deep, but I can see where, I can see where you're coming from, how that would get annoying.

Speaker 2 Well, as someone who has been flaked from a lot by people in my life, I don't, it's a trigger for me.

Speaker 1 Okay. Well, you're, you're allowed to be triggered.
Okay, so then they go up to go to dinner, and Meredith is like, oh, well, Angie just wants to make sure we stay skinny.

Speaker 1 That's why we're climbing up this big hill to go have dinner.

Speaker 1 Maisie brings the beautiful blazer. Thank God for the blazer.

Speaker 2 So then

Speaker 2 we see that Meredith has also bought a bracelet for Heather as a peace offering. And she puts this box.

Speaker 1 It's necklace.

Speaker 1 You know what? It's scary. Because we all know what this means.
This is an evil eye necklace. And anybody who watches Real Housewives of Orange County knows how dramatic this actually is.

Speaker 2 So this is what I was confused about because we see in the flashback that she's getting like the evil eye thing, but then when she gives it to Heather, there's no talk about Evil Eye.

Speaker 2 And in fact, Heather's like

Speaker 2 it's an H. So I wonder if she changed it up before she purchased.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe one of the producers was like, We've seen Orange County, don't do it. So she's like, Okay, I'll get her an H instead

Speaker 1 for Hasshle

Speaker 2 for

Speaker 2 Heasy Hubreezy Hublazer.

Speaker 1 So Hossee.

Speaker 2 For how do you know how loud I was on the hairplane?

Speaker 1 And so Mary's like, it's a peace offering, Heather. And Heather's like, well, should I wait till everyone's here? Can I open it now? It's an age.

Speaker 1 And Bronwyn's like, yep, she's trying to make up with you, Heather. That's what she's trying to do.
She goes, well, it's not going to work, but it is a wonderful gesture.

Speaker 2 I feel like she's treating me like the woman who's been cheated on just give me a few gifts without being specific about what it's about and we're going back to normal

Speaker 1 okay so the waiter comes around and gives everyone a blanket and they're like oh thank you for the blanket i like that meredith didn't take it she's like no thank you my outfit is pre-chosen by chloe thank you very much

Speaker 2 I uh thank you for the offer of the beautiful blanket, but as you can see, I already have a blazer that's shielding me from the wind. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 Oh, look at Lisa, just getting all the love here in Greece. The Greeks are taking such good care of her.
These are Greek blankets. Aren't they different than normal blankets?

Speaker 1 There's just so much more to see. Can you be on time tomorrow, Lisa? And she's like, okay, I can be on time tomorrow, I guess.

Speaker 2 I didn't know there were mosquitoes in Greece, and there's a big one across from me. I just want to smack it.

Speaker 1 Ha, ha, ha, ha.

Speaker 2 Mosquito reference has nothing to to do with anything. No one was talking about mosquitoes, but like, it's kind of a funny joke if you think about it, right?

Speaker 1 So, um, they eat in silence because they know it's fighting time. So, they're all just Bronwyn, especially, is just looking around, like, okay, who's going to fight? Please don't make it be me.

Speaker 1 Please don't make it be me.

Speaker 1 And so, Mary's like, okay, well, Heather came and asked me to do this. So, Meredith and Heather Gay, are you guys okay? You guys should talk.
Do it now. Do it before appetizers.
Just go. So,

Speaker 2 Heather's like, well, when I opened my necklace and I put it on, which i love meredith ronwin kept saying it's a peace offering from meredith and yep

Speaker 2 i did say that yep yep i did say that well you seem very i i don't want to use the wrong words but tense with me and i said well i'll bring her a gift as a peace offering because if i do seem to remember they gave many gifts in the feature film crazy rich asians which i did watch and i think that's a nice thing and if you don't think it's nice then don't keep it but it's up to you i mean i was just trying to be nice person because i think we can all agree i'm a nice person on airplanes and on land i love when meredith does like her um victim shrug thing where she's like well hands up i was just trying to be nice

Speaker 1 if you don't want me to keep it i'm just trying to be nice you can you can leave it

Speaker 1 so heather's like well first of all i'm not rejecting the gift i'm just saying let's talk about it first. Well, I wasn't looking to do it as a group, Heather.
And Andrew's like, well, we are here.

Speaker 1 And we are Greek.

Speaker 1 And Meredith's like, well, I called you and I reached out again this morning. So shrugging hands off, I did everything that I could do.

Speaker 2 She wants to start this with the group to rile people up to start on me again. And it's clear that Heather doesn't have respect for our friendship.

Speaker 1 So she just

Speaker 1 was calm.

Speaker 1 She's definitely doing the wet.

Speaker 2 She's doing the like, I'm just being a good friend, being innocent, good friend.

Speaker 1 Innocent Meredith.

Speaker 2 She's totally doing that thing like, well, you know,

Speaker 2 I tried to buy her a yacht and she wouldn't accept it. So what else can I do?

Speaker 1 I actually think Meredith is being fair here. I mean, she's, she tried to call Heather.
Heather wouldn't call her back. Then she tried to talk to Heather, get time alone with Heather.

Speaker 1 Heather wouldn't give her the alone time. And then Heather is going to be up here acting like, Meredith hasn't even reached out to me.
She hasn't even tried to make it okay, which is not true.

Speaker 1 She has twice and you've ignored her. And so now you're going to try and make her look stupid again in public.
So I kind of like that Meredith came with this attitude.

Speaker 1 And she's like, I'm going to stay calm. And the most I'm going to do is bug my eyes and struggle a lot with my hands up.

Speaker 2 I don't think Meredith is at fault on this at all, but I just think it's funny because last time she was just like, y'all are liars. And here is a pea cup.
And we're going to see if you did drugs.

Speaker 1 Now she's like, well, I just brought you a gift and, you know, I tried my best.

Speaker 2 I just love like the pivot to like, like, I'm going to be friendly, Meredith. Now, so Meredith is like, well, Heather,

Speaker 2 it's not something I can address as a group. It's just not.
That's when she goes from the shrug and the hands up to the, I'm going to lean forward and tell you in my...

Speaker 1 best legal expert voice this is unfortunately we cannot proceed right now we're going to have to have a special hearing so unfortunately we can't do this in front of people and if you don't use your fork properly you can leave the table young lady she's giving that look like do you want to push money at dinner

Speaker 2 you assassinated my character after i assassinated your character and that dejected our history and our friendship no i did not i did not

Speaker 2 You did and my loyalty. You dejected my loyalty.

Speaker 1 No, I did not

Speaker 2 I'm not sure how to speak to somebody like this. I've never been in a situation where it's just like a stone wall of denial.
I'm like, uh, Jensha.

Speaker 1 Newly freed Jensha, your best friend of three years that you stuck up for till the second she was in prison.

Speaker 1 That one?

Speaker 1 And Meredith is like, um, that is not true either, Heather. And it's so funny watching her stay calm because you can see under, like, veins popping out.
And Heather's like, Well, that happened.

Speaker 1 That happened. You questioned my loyalty while I was trying to get Whitney to call you a drug addict.
And she's like, well, I'm saying that my feelings were hurt. Well, my feelings were hurt too.

Speaker 1 And I apologize and you apologize. So I don't know why we're still talking about that.

Speaker 2 He was very, very, I was very, very hurt by you calling me a liar. Only I get to call people liars.
Well, I did not call you a liar. Well, I felt like you called me a liar.

Speaker 1 But you know what?

Speaker 2 Everybody makes mistakes and friendships and like you can't like constantly hold people to this like crazy standard that you don't even hold yourself and that's like exhausting.

Speaker 2 Are you talking to me or are you talking to Heather?

Speaker 1 Um

Speaker 2 whoever I'm not gonna get in the most trouble with is who I'm talking to.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like a little ridiculous that Heather plays Judge Judy in every situation. She's like, you're the bad one.
You did this. You're awful.
And I'm a better friend to you.

Speaker 1 And it's like, why the fuck are you judging her so harshly? Why are you peeing on her leg and telling her it's raining?

Speaker 2 Everyone preaches. I want good friendships and I want to be God and I want people to be God to me, but be good to everybody.
Like, just what you preach. Oh my God.

Speaker 2 That was like as good as like when I started the thing about mosquitoes. You guys hears the mosquitoes thing I said? It was so funny.
My Athens girl, she laughed so hard.

Speaker 1 So Lisa's like, well, why is it okay for you to express your feelings, but not Meredith? And Heather's like, I'm not just like being a yes man anymore.

Speaker 1 Part of that trust is saying, listen, there's a huge problem. When have you ever been a yes man? You've been doing this the whole time.

Speaker 1 You just call yourself a yes man, but then you go against everybody and say that you're such a good friend to them as you're ripping them to shreds on national TV.

Speaker 2 Hi, bye. Lisa's like, listen, I know how you feel, Heather.
Wait a second. Can Meredith speak for herself? Yes, yes, yes.
You speak for her. Yes, you speak for her, Lisa.

Speaker 2 No, I don't, but like, you guys have like, like, you guys had like a miss over there. Like, you guys missed something over there.
Okay, you guys had a mess.

Speaker 1 Whitney's saying, can Meredith speak for herself? You were literally just in her cabin asking her to go against Lisa for you and Heather. So

Speaker 1 quiet over there. And by the way, while this is going on, Whitney is really working on her eyes.
She keeps like pushing her eyes and like putting a napkin in her eyes, trying to muster up some tears.

Speaker 1 And I was like, What is she doing over there? Which we see soon. So then Heather has a monologue because it's Heather.
So she's like, We, I ride hard or die for Meredith from day one.

Speaker 1 And when she brought up that TikTok, I completely defended you and then the next morning at breakfast you came in guns a blazing and i said listen you're freaking out over a tick tock and there's much bigger bombs placed in your lap that you've chosen to ignore and look the other way okay so now you're mad because she's mad over the tick tock when she hasn't been mad over other things why wouldn't she be mad about a rumor that her husband's around that someone's bringing onto national tv what bigger bombs are you talking about and she's like and then you chose to pick this tick tock as the reason to annihilate your friendship with me No, you chose this TikTok as the reason to annihilate your friendship with her.

Speaker 1 It's just frustrating.

Speaker 1 Heather has this giant monologue.

Speaker 2 Heather has this giant monologue.

Speaker 2 And you're no, you're using it to announce. I feel like you're using it as a reason to annihilate your friendship with me, with Whitney, and with Brittany.

Speaker 2 And you are selective about what you have outrage for. So she has this whole big thing where she's like,

Speaker 2 sticking the landing. And Merit just looks at her and just goes,

Speaker 1 I don't agree with you. I don't agree with you.

Speaker 1 So she's like, okay, and if you want to hold a grudge against me over it, then that's fine. That's up to you.
She's like, but like, how are you flipping this on me? This isn't on me.

Speaker 1 Heather, this was something that happened between her and Brittany. Brittany let it go.
Everybody has let it go except you and Whitney, who will not stop.

Speaker 1 You will not stop. Let it go.
Everybody's let it go, but you. She's like, oh my God, how is this flipping on me? I'm not holding a grudge.
I'm not lying about you.

Speaker 1 You said you misspoke and I misspoke and we met in the middle. Well, I would never do that to you.
When you hurt my feelings the way that you did, I would never just be like, you misspoke. I misspoke.

Speaker 1 I thought we'd moved on, but apparently you're so petty that you haven't.

Speaker 1 You haven't.

Speaker 2 I thought this was actually exactly how she and Whitney dealt with their fight in season three, but that's okay. So Lisa.

Speaker 1 She actually called you to go hang out and talk about this. So, no, she's not just saying, I misspoke, you misspoke, let's move on.

Speaker 1 She actually saw that you hadn't moved on and tried to make an effort, further effort with you and you refused so that you could have this little breakdown in front of everybody at the table.

Speaker 2 Honestly, people need to get crap is on demand because to watch you ranting and raving right now while Bueller's legs behind are stretching and doing some sort of like synchronized swimming over your shoulder is like the funniest thing of all time.

Speaker 2 You're like, add another thing about Heather Gay. She's saying this.
And then meanwhile, you just see these two little paws behind your your shoulder, like doing like V's and Y's and X's.

Speaker 1 He knows you're talking about it.

Speaker 1 Yes, we are talking about you.

Speaker 1 Gorgeous man, you gorgeous creature.

Speaker 2 All right, let's land the plane. So Lisa says, Heather, I feel like you do things that are hurtful to me, and I don't know why you do them because I'm not doing anything to you.

Speaker 3 Cry, I'm invested in our friendship. And when you said things like that, that you said at vultures, you know, mean things.
Remember when you said mean things?

Speaker 2 And basically, it was Heather saying, like, don't be bitchy. Don't be bitchy.
Well, you don't be bitchy. Don't be bitchy.
Well, you don't be bitchy either.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 3 and I just would never do that to you. I would never do that.
It actually hurt my feelings. Oh.

Speaker 1 So then Whitney, now we see why Whitney's been working up her big fake tears because she acts like she's crying now.

Speaker 1 And she's like, well, the bigger thing that we're dancing around is we're protecting something that happened. And I just feel like I see it so clearly.

Speaker 1 I'm watching my friends fight and we're all fighting because of the way that you treated Brittany on the plane and I don't know why you can't just say I fucked up because I just feel right now.

Speaker 1 It's like Lynne, I already did all that. Brittany and I spoke and we worked it out.

Speaker 2 Look at the table right now. Look at it.
It's a rectangle. Isn't that amazing? A rectangle table.
Oh, then you want us to literally look at the table and the people too. Look at it.

Speaker 2 Well, Brittany, did we work it out? Brittany, would you like to say something?

Speaker 2 So Brittany's kind of like, well, Brittany's like, I'm not saying shit.

Speaker 1 She's just sitting there like,

Speaker 2 she's like, I signed a document that said we are good.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So Britain, so Whitney's like, well, what clearly has happened, Meredith, is you messed up, but we're all paying the fucking price. What price are you paying? And she's bringing up every scene.
Stop.

Speaker 1 And she's like, I recognize your behavior. So now she's going to cry and like insinuate that it's a dad thing again because of alcohol.
I mean, she's too much, this Whitney. I can't.

Speaker 1 And what are you having to pay the fucking price for? You're the ones who keep bringing it up every day, every scene. So Meredith's like, well, she's been the monster in the screw from day one.

Speaker 1 She is the cause of every problem. She projects everything she does onto everybody else over and over again.
And we let it go and give her a free pass because she's always on a healing journey.

Speaker 2 I don't think you have a problem, but I think you're the problem right now. And Meredith goes, well, everyone at this table has done things probably much worse.

Speaker 2 And on that note, I am going to stand up and move this easy, breezy blazer to a different location.

Speaker 1 They're like, wait a minute, Mary, Meredith, are you leaving? Wait, hold on, hold on. And Heather's like, well, I'm obviously in trouble for saying how I really felt.

Speaker 1 And she's not going to say anything because she wants to support her. And then Whitney makes a scissoring gesture, like,

Speaker 1 yeah, because they're like scissoring.

Speaker 2 And then Brittany giggles at it. She's like, oh my God, that was so funny.
So, but now they're going to reframe everything that just happened.

Speaker 2 And I'm going to end up apologizing again for ever having an opinion. I feel worse now than I did when I came to dinner because I've been victimized by Mormonism and Meredith.

Speaker 1 Ridiculous.

Speaker 1 So she's like, Yeah, you know, I just, this reminds me of where I'm at in rank of like importance. Oh, God.
Poor, insecure Heather Gay. Here's where you're at.
You're at a very high level of annoying.

Speaker 1 Get something else to talk about. None of this even involved you.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So that's where it ends, the first episode of the Greek trip. And I'm sure this fight will be revisited about 10 more times before the future.

Speaker 1 Truly.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Meredith on a plane.

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This has been a good time. We will be back.

Speaker 1 Are we doing?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. We'll definitely be back next week.
Look at me already making it Christmas break. I'm like, well, see you later.
See you in the new year, everybody. Goodbye.

Speaker 2 I wouldn't mind, guys. We're off for the rest of the month.

Speaker 1 I would love it. But no, that is not the case.
We will be back next week. We'll be back the rest of the week with more recups.
We sure love you guys. Thanks for being here.

Speaker 1 Bye.

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