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This week on Your Mom’s House, Christina and Tommy welcome Dr. Hope Torres, an Austin-based licensed professional counselor specializing in trauma and personality assessment to analyze Tom, Christina, and the entire YMH staff. Before the doctor is in, the Main Mommies update us on what they've been up to, Tommy's on a water fast and Tina looks like a crypto millionaire now. They open the show with a really cool guy yelling at a bartender, before checking out a new video of an old favorite, Dan Pena, who explains why he likes having a painting of Hitler in his office. They also check out a clip of Charlize Theron bragging about banging a dude in his 20's and Christina shares her thoughts on the movie "Sinners" hmmmm hmmmm hmmmm.
Dr. Torres then comes in and shares the results of a personality assessment that everyone at Studio Jeans filled out and determines on a scale of normal to traumatized combat vet where Tom, Christina, and the entire staff rank. She walks the YMH crew through their results on the PID-5 personality inventory (DSM‑5). and breaks down the personality domains like anxiety, impulsivity, narcissism, and eccentricity. There's also plenty of insight into how trauma, dissociation, and childhood behaviors can shape adult personality. Whether you’re looking for laughs, self-reflection, or a crash course in personality diagnostics, this deeply human episode is a must-listen.
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Chapters
00:00:00 - Intro
00:05:13 - Mom & Dad Updates
00:13:13 - Opening Clip: Angry Dad
00:19:42 - Bert Kersher Interrupts The Show
00:23:05 - Dan Pena
00:32:49 - Charlize Theron's Sex Positive Encounter
00:38:06 - Christina Saw "Sinners"
00:46:26 - The Doctor Is In
00:53:24 - Who's Doing Ok?
01:01:02 - Mid Tier Crazies
01:10:55 - Top 3 Psychos
01:27:31 - The Biggest Studio Psycho
01:38:35 - Mentally Ill Main Mommies
01:53:35 - The Other Normies
01:57:24 - Closing Song - "Therapy Breakthrough" by Pete Sake
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Welcome.
Welcome, Wilkomen.
Welcome.
Wilkomen.
Sorry, I just got excited because because I didn't know if you're still into your Hitler summer.
Yeah, I mean, I've just kind of waiting.
I'm waiting every day for another new
Hitler story to come out.
It feels like it's such a bummer.
You're like, well, I've only seen 25 documentaries.
There's nothing new.
I know.
They constantly find a way to retell the greatest.
It's one of my favorite things about the summer.
The summer.
It's getting a new World War II doc.
But sometimes you were into, you turned it into a Vietnamese summer for you.
I don't like it as much.
Why is that, Tommy?
It's the story is just, you know why?
Honestly, it's a dirtier, murkier story.
That's really what it comes down to.
World War II is such a clean, traditional good versus evil story.
Like the fact that it's real
makes it like, oh my God, because you usually hear these stories in fantasy.
Yeah, you're like, what?
That guy did what?
And then he took over what?
It's really, it's a good versus evil story.
And then Vietnam is just so murky and dirty.
convoluted you mean literally the country is dirty no i mean like the the jungle the everything that goes into what led to the war and the you know there's manipulation and there's all these lies and it's just it's it's very sad it's very disturbing yeah and americans were killed quite a few i don't like yeah it's okay if the krauts die right but not if uh good americans die yeah also yeah the fashion wasn't as great in vietnam big big point of contention for me, too.
Did look at the fashion.
The food, you know, I like Vietnamese food.
I know you're not into it.
I like Vietnamese food.
You do?
Sure.
Also, interesting fact, your father, who was in Vietnam, told me I'll never forget.
He goes, you know, the worst part, Christina?
Trench foot.
A trench foot.
You got to keep your socks dry.
Yeah.
Otherwise, your feet, they just, the feet are the first thing to go.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I learned that.
You know, you take the trenching tool.
That was another one: trenching tool, you want to take a shit, and you dig yourself a hole in you, yeah, and then you and like, cool, that's cool.
He, I'll tell you this, he's not a fan of Vietnamese food.
No, I know, it's not even a joke, and we tried so hard to get him to even try Korean barbecue.
That was crazy, which was so, it's so good.
We were living in Koreatown,
and I was like, hey, you want to get Korean barbecue?
This guy looked at me like I was like, hey, hey, want to fuck your mom later today?
He goes, what the fuck?
No.
He goes, Tommy, what kind of question is that?
And I go, what?
Yeah.
He goes, I don't like that shit.
And I go, it's meat.
It's Korean barbecue.
It's like ribs and shit.
He's like, oh, no.
I'm good.
But he also didn't like Italian food.
No, it was crazy.
Which is like your dad didn't like a lot of stuff that most of humanity enjoys.
No, he was a good actor.
Joe Pesky.
Joe Peske.
Yeah, he's good.
Have you ever heard his name said that way?
Because I haven't.
Joe Pesky.
Bothered me so much.
I was thinking about it last night.
Still at all.
That was like 30 years ago.
It's like, but it's one of those things.
Like
you go through your life, somebody passes.
You have your grief.
And then there's things that still stick with you.
And last night, I was like, who the fuck says Joe Pesky?
That was Insanity, yeah, it was so crazy to me.
It is he, he would mispronounce a lot of things.
Yeah, wasn't there other actors and other pedophiles?
He would say, That guy's a pediophile, and like
he just had a different.
I mean, my feet were
really foreign.
You know, one time he said that to me, he goes, the pediophile, I go, is that with feet?
And he goes, No, it's the kids.
I go, Oh, you mean
all right, right, yeah, yeah.
He was like, Yeah, yeah.
I go,
Why are you saying that like that?
You want to to get something at the buffet?
I love, I still say buffet from him.
The buffet?
I love the buffet.
We were in Washington, which is something that other people say too, though.
Washington's very common.
Yeah.
So, Ellis, our son, we adopted a cat from a cat cafe here in Austin.
The perfecto cat lounge.
Shout out to them because the woman who owns it's lovely and they rescue cats and rehabilitate them.
And you can, you know.
Yeah, especially if they committed a crime.
They're like, give them a second chance.
I remember.
That's so true.
Anyway, he didn't know.
He called it the cat buffet.
Yeah.
And I was, I didn't correct him because I'm like, technically, it is.
It's kind of a cat buffet in here.
A cat buffet.
Yeah.
Which was adorable.
Cat buffet.
Anyway,
we have so much to get into.
First of all, just an update
why I'm looking still.
Oh, yeah.
So I got the staples out of my head, which is great because that was really freaking me out.
And turns out they do use a tool.
They put it, it's like a staple remover from like Home Depot.
Yeah.
but it opens the staple under the skin and then they pull it out.
It was, it, it hurt.
No, your look is evolving.
You were the hamburgler last week.
And today,
what is this?
You kind of look like a crypto millionaire, a little bit like
somebody who's,
you know,
doing things that are kind of shady, but making money doing them.
Cool.
Yeah.
Well, thanks, Josh Zolo, for procuring this special Bauhaus hat.
Very cool.
I don't usually wear caps because I don't like how they make my ears look.
I have big ears.
Were you fucking 70?
Ball cap.
You got a ball cap on your head.
Guys, my parents never said.
You know what?
Ball cap, I don't know.
Sun visor, you told me it was wrong.
And then chewing gum.
Ball cap is like what someone from the 1930s would say.
What is this?
A hat?
It's a cap.
It's a baseball cap.
Okay.
Any?
I mean, you know, technically, yeah, it's a cap.
Technically.
He doesn't say what's me on this one.
Well, guys, sorry.
Okay, growing up, my family didn't wear this stuff.
I don't know what this shit's called.
Sun visor.
A sun visor, chewing gum.
Chewing gum.
Chewing gum.
And then baseball cap.
Hokie-dokie.
Anyway, sorry.
Update.
Staples are out.
Staples are out.
Stitches are out.
Face is coming together.
Face is coming together.
It's still bruised, and I'm not allowed to wear makeup yet.
So when I can wear makeup, I will debut these eyes.
And I'll tell you something, you're going to like the way I look.
I guarantee it.
I guarantee it, yeah.
So you went through, I got jealous that you got, you know, so much work done and you're looking younger, so I'm on a water fast.
This is incredibly torturous that you're doing.
And tell them for how long?
Five days.
I have to point this out to some of the,
I would say, the
challenged folks out there.
It doesn't mean I'm going five days without water, which is what some people, they were like, that's crazy.
You can die if you don't have water for five days.
I'm like, no, no, it's only water.
It's only water.
You're allowed to have black coffee.
Oh.
Water with salt.
You can have some sugar-free electrolytes.
So I'm doing those.
The water with salt is great because it's going to make you shit.
That'll make you shit.
I'm pretty sure.
But you know what?
You're like one of these yogis.
That's what they do in India.
When you, you know, you meditate.
Are you meditating?
You should really use this time to do psychedelic drugs and meditate.
I'm serious.
You're going to have like epiphanies, bro.
Yeah.
Ride the snake.
Ride the window.
I see where I'm at right now.
I am at
it was 36, 37, 38, 30.
I'm at 40 hours.
How do you feel?
I'm hungry.
Like, I'm not like freaking out.
I just,
this thing keeps happening.
I told you yesterday where like you're, you kind of lose your thought about it and then you
feel hungry and you see something like oh, there's a snack like a protein bar.
Oh, I should eat that.
I'm hungry.
hungry and then I'm like oh I'm doing it like I forget that I'm fasting yeah and um have you had any like epiphanies or like realizations in your hunger no everyone who's told me too is they're like they most people told me that two days two to three are like the worst and that everybody has well I was just say everybody but a lot of people have told me that getting into day four is where you really feel good I don't know and do you have do you lose your train of thought because when I'm hungry I can't think yeah I've been losing focus
I'm not like super agitated, but you know, you want to eat, man.
You're grumpy.
I'm really proud of you because normally in our like everyday life, like you wake up and you have to eat right away.
Otherwise, you're an angry bear.
You've been really harnessing your bear.
I don't know how you're doing it.
Yeah.
It's good that I have so much going on.
I think being focused and trying to be busy on things is good.
Yeah.
So exciting.
Well, I'm excited for you.
You're probably going to lose like 80 pounds because, well, how many?
That's like a lot.
You're going to lose so much weight.
I don't think it'll be that dramatic.
I lost three pounds from yesterday to today.
Just shitting and water and stuff?
I guess.
Yeah.
Did you have you been shitting like crazy?
No, not yet.
But also, I was, I was, I thought that was, I was like, oh, I guess I'm not having that.
And like, I mentioned it today and people were like, oh, no, it's coming.
I was like, oh.
Is it just because your body is just...
Relaxed, like, it's not digesting.
And I don't know the science behind it.
You look up why during a fast, you shit everything out of you?
Like, is it just like your body's all your body's all, hey, dude, we're bit, we don't have stuff to do right now.
That's an interesting way of wording it.
Why don't you type it just like that?
How come your body's like, oh, shit, there's all this shit coming out?
Diarrhea during fasting, while not experienced by everyone, can be linked to several factors, including the body's response to the lack of food, changes in bowel movements, and potential dehydration.
Sudden introduction of food during re-feeding also trigger it.
Well, that makes sense.
When you eat again, but when you're fasting, I don't understand why it happens.
Fasting can slow down the gastrocolic reflex, which is the body's natural response to food entering the stomach by triggering a bowel movement.
When you suddenly break a fast, well, that's breaking the fast.
Bro, we need to go and get you some pancakes, waffles.
That's the way to do it.
Everyone says
when you break the fast, they go, go hard.
Eat a lot of sugar, a lot of carbs.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
A lot of fat.
Well, my first post-colonoscopy meal was a cinnamon roll.
Remember that, dude?
It was so good.
Yeah.
I love that shit.
Yeah, me too, man.
So good.
I like that shit, too.
I was a fucking, hold on, dude.
It was a fucking cinnamon roll, like, waffle.
Yeah.
Super Texas fatty treat.
Yeah.
And then...
you know, eggs and fucking hollandaise sauce and shit.
Can I tell you the best thing I heard when I was in my oncologist's office?
Yeah.
This is where people get chemotherapy.
So I'm in the waiting room with people who are waiting to get chemotherapy to treat their active cancer.
And
I hear this family talking.
And the person who's clearly sick is like, let's go get some deep-fried pork chops after this.
There's a place where you can get deep-fried pork chops.
And I'm like, really?
You have cancer.
I know.
But you can tell you something.
You're going to do that.
I actually regret that when my dad was alive and sick, that I would get irritated
with his food choices.
Because looking back on it, I was like, God.
He's already.
Yeah.
He's dying.
Like, just let him eat.
You know what I mean?
Because I would be like, really?
And he was like, what?
I go, I mean, is this a good thing to have right now?
And he was like,
don't, but you know what, though?
You were good with him because I remember the.
The last trip you guys took.
Yeah.
We ordered him a bacon cheeseburger and he was just like, no, we, I know.
I ordered him a lot of stuff yeah but even like by like the third day when he was like leaving i was like hey man can i just talk to you about like what you're eating though and he was like what's that and i was like i mean yeah don't you think you should be
maybe being a little more cautious about what you eat i know i know what you're saying yeah i think if somebody is sick like that
you should just look well like if you're not terminal Yeah, and you want to live.
Right?
No.
Just still eat the pork deep-fried pork chops.
Let people eat what they want to eat.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's my realization from it.
That's what this fast has taught me.
No.
Let people eat what they want to eat.
You know, and I think Lena Dunham shares your philosophy.
Here we go.
Let's open the show.
Let's open the show.
You're the most ignorant fucking
that I've ever met.
Really?
Yeah.
I didn't do anything, Neil.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
I brought you three drinks, and as soon as you got the Hennessy in you, you went fucking ballistic on taking an L on every man in the fucking world.
Fuck you!
Fuck you!
That's a cool clip.
This is so rad.
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Oh, it's still playing.
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And also,
we left our kids with your sister today, and she's not used to the full force of our sons in the pool.
That's what she's going to be saying to them in about 30 minutes.
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I'm hard right now.
This guy's pretty rad, though, right?
No, he's the coolest.
Fuck you.
That's why you're remote.
Cause you're a cool.
He's right.
Yeah.
And Sydney, I apologize.
I really wanted to talk to you.
Yeah.
I wanted to ask you out to dinner, but you got to.
Oh,
fucking lawyer.
Yeah.
The way he looked at that camera at the end right here makes me think he set it up.
Yeah.
But he was like, I'm going to put my camera here so I can get myself saying, fuck you to Sydney.
And I think he's right.
I think you're right.
Yeah.
And I like the this.
I don't do this enough.
Yeah, this isn't.
This is.
is.
I feel like this is so good.
Yeah.
That's a really good one.
Fuck you, man.
It really.
Yeah.
Yeah.
God, I love places when they have multiple TVs.
Love it.
It's so cool because it's.
Yeah, dude.
Loud.
I like a lot of loud, like different noises, different voices going on.
It's fun.
Yeah, I want to watch all the games at once.
Everything too.
Yeah, yeah.
Have some nature shit going on.
I want to see some fucking cricket from India.
I want it all on TV.
It's great.
I wish it were that interesting.
You're the most ignorant fucking cook that I've ever met.
That's wild.
Really?
I didn't do anything, Neil.
Fuck you.
Oh, yeah, he's so proud of himself.
You're right.
That's what this is about.
What did he say?
I fucked you.
I bought you three drinks.
And as soon as you got the Hennessy,
so
he's kind of like just resentful of the fact, honestly, that he bought her three drinks.
100%.
And she's not in him.
It's the same thing where the guy's like, you're hot.
And they're like, get away.
And he's like, fuck you, bitch.
Yeah.
It's just the same old story.
Literally, you're a fucking
you're the most ignorant
I've ever met in my life.
And can I tell you, I don't.
Oh, hold on.
Here's, here's, uh, here's Bertrand.
I think he's on set on his show.
Like, we have to say hi.
Oh,
hello?
Oh, somebody's in.
Somebody got makeup.
Let me see.
I will.
Hi, Bert.
How's it going, buddy?
How are you guys doing?
Good.
Day one?
good.
First day of shooting.
Great, man.
I'm happy for you.
You look good.
Here, hold on.
This is my outfit.
Okay.
Oh, sorry.
Wrong way.
Wrong way.
Hi, Leanne.
Hello, guys.
That is
real cool.
He looks awesome.
Wow, you look really cool, man.
I like your shorts, Bert.
Are you adorable?
Are you playing a sex symbol?
Because I'm feeling it.
What are you guys doing?
We're doing a podcast, man.
We're just recording right now.
You're doing a podcast right now?
Right now, yeah.
Go to your mom's house.
Oh, nice.
Nice, nice.
Well, look.
I'll send my stand-ins.
Where are you filming?
He's in Atlanta.
What's up?
How you doing?
Hey, Bert.
I'm losing you.
Yeah, I'm losing you.
Bert, you got to see my eye work.
I had it a brow lift and an eye work done.
Can you tell him?
No shit.
Are you serious?
It looks so good.
Wait until you see my eyes.
I look 25 years younger.
Now, listen, when I come to Austin, I need to get all this dead black skin off my face.
Oh, yeah, I'll help you.
Yeah, I mean, that's.
What's dead skin?
I was kissing Leanne with makeup on, and she goes, oh, my God, you look so young.
And I went, oh.
Yeah.
Because you do look young right now.
I know.
I look young as shit.
You know what you should start doing?
Wearing makeup every day.
It's so cool.
Just wear makeup more.
Yep.
It's natural.
All right.
Have a great shoot, man.
I'll talk to you later.
Congrats.
All right.
Love you too.
All right.
That's so sweet that he calls you.
Well, I call, I sent him a message to have a great shoot.
It's his first day shooting.
Today's the first day shooting his series, yeah.
Oh my god.
That's so cool.
He's so happy.
You guys are both just like crushing it right now.
I mean, I heard you announce it on Two Bears.
You're shooting your movie
in New Mexico.
yeah new mexico pretty soon i know i think um
maybe by the time this episode comes out they'll announce some of the cast it's uh oh my god i'm so fucking pumped for you babe this is so funny it's gonna be fantastic and i'm you know looking forward to being in albuquerque with the kids
yeah okay all right i want to die anyway i was gonna say that I respected him until I saw what he's drinking, which is like hard lemonade.
Yeah.
Which is like, isn't that the drink of pediophiles?
Mike's hard lemonade.
It's pretty lame.
Isn't that what the guy always brings when he wants to have sex with a minor in that those shows?
A lot of those, a lot of wine coolers.
Yeah.
Wine cooler.
He's drinking like a 12-year-old girl.
What man drinks wine coolers?
It's really bad.
That's not acceptable.
It's also, I'll tell you who drinks.
A guy who thinks it's okay to walk up to a bar and be like, you fucking.
Like, that's
it's not okay.
I love this shit.
I hate to jump around.
Yeah.
But I'm so excited to show you something that I saw.
I'm telling you.
So fucking stuff.
One of our favorites, like one of the absolute, you know, best that we ever featured on this show.
Yeah.
Is this guy?
Hanging out with losers.
Yeah.
Right.
Wasting your time with people that need to be correct.
Yeah, correct.
Show me your friends and I'll show you your future.
That's one of your top, top
three pieces.
Show me your friends and I'll show you your future.
You want to know why you're all fucked up?
Just look at the fucking bums you hang around with.
It's my dad.
There you go.
That's pretty good.
This is why you're fucking poor.
I can do it all day.
Yeah, it's pretty great, right?
You're a cool guy, not me.
Yeah.
You know,
he had so many great ones, right?
Do you realize the rest of the world lasted us?
Yes.
Do you realize the Russians think think we're all fat?
Do you realize most of us
were falling?
Yeah.
He's right.
Because we are.
And then, so, you know, Dan Pena, I'm just doing that so people know.
You know, we started playing these guys' clips years ago.
And then we had them on the podcast.
Bro, and then we had lunch with him.
We had lunch with him on CRL.
Haven't seen him in years.
Haven't talked to him in years.
And I'm going into into my folder just looking at what's in here for the show and i see dan paying i'm like i haven't seen dude what
i don't
i'll do whatever it takes yeah
well that means something different to me it means something different to guys like hitler why do i have hitler's picture in the
behind my desk
he's arguably the best salesman that ever lived How do you get 60, 70, 80 million people to genocide 10 million people?
Either those 10 million people had to do something terrible, which wasn't the case, or you got to be a slick motherfucker.
I mean, and he was, okay?
And that's why I have his picture behind my desk.
I mean, I don't know that I've ever heard somebody be like...
This is what I took, my kids and I, we went to the Bahamas.
So that's what that is there.
It's when I got married.
It's a a golf trip.
One of my friends, we went to.
We played at Pebble Beach.
I love Pebble Beach.
Yeah.
That's a great place.
It's Hitler.
Crazy salesman.
Probably the best salesman.
Were you related to him, or why is he on your this?
Is Morocco.
We went to Morocco.
It's fucking wild.
Babe.
And it's not just on his family.
It's behind his desk.
Behind the desk.
Like, that's where you sit.
That's where you put your primo photographs.
Yeah.
Oh.
Oh, this guy?
Oh, I met Bill Belichick.
So I got his photo.
There's, you know, he won a bunch of Super Bowls.
Pretty cool.
That means something different to guys like Hitler.
Yeah.
I wish we could Photoshop a picture with like Hitler's arm around him and with like a note.
Like a thumbs up.
What's up?
Yeah.
Your friend.
Arguably the best salesman that ever lived.
I mean, look, is he logically correct?
I get where I know what he's trying to say.
It's just an interesting choice.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's an interesting choice.
You know, and normally I don't.
Well, you know,
put it this way.
Some of the best people we love creatively were bad people in real life, but Hitler was a bad person in his job, too.
So I don't think we can separate the man from the
talent.
You know what I'm saying?
I have that
Hitler photo.
Oh, well, I have it for like sales reasons.
It's the salesmanship
is what I'm into.
Because, you know, I sell things.
Oh, you're thinking, no, no, no, no.
Not that.
Not that guy.
It's just, you know, guy who's fucking slick, man.
He's just a cool guy.
Just a real fucking cool guy.
Did I ever tell you?
This is beautiful.
Thank you.
By the way, so this is a deep tissue calf massage.
There is no, there's a 0.0%
chance that that is making him better.
That is not helping him
at all.
Screaming.
I know.
Can I tell you what one time, speaking of a Hitler portrait, like you ever date somebody and then you go back to their home and their decor, like there's just something where you go, I can't do this.
I'm out.
So there was this guy who I thought this was going to be potential.
I was young.
Oh, yeah, I was young.
And
handsome,
talented, bright future, like really, really cool.
And I was like, all right, dude, I think this is going to happen.
We go out for launche.
And he's like, you want to go back and see
my apartment, my house?
He actually had a house.
And I was like, yeah, cool.
So I go back to the house and I go after use the restroom.
I use the restroom.
And on the toilet are about...
50 or 60 figurines
like Star Wars figurines.
And then I was like,
all right, I think I'm out.
And then I go, I just peek into his room.
I'm like, I wonder what the bedroom's like if there's Star Wars on the toilet.
Life-size cutout chewbacca.
And that goes.
At the foot of the bed.
And I was like, at the foot of the bed.
At the foot of the bed.
I'm surprised you like chicks.
That's not like chick bait.
Exactly.
How old were you?
20 something, like literally just getting out of college, maybe last year of college.
Very young.
In LA?
So he's in LA?
No.
Oh.
I don't want to say, I don't want to give away too many details, but.
You think everyone's going to be like, oh, I know the Chewbacca guy.
I mean, I don't know.
Fuck, I'm afraid to like.
They're like, as soon as she said Boston, friend.
I don't know.
Okay.
Look, you know, I don't know.
I've known the same people for 30, 40 years.
I've been friends with the same people.
They know who I'm referring to.
So this isn't our friend group, you understand?
Oh, yeah, I got you.
But that was.
And so, wait, how did you handle the dip out?
How'd you dip?
I mean, no, I was polite.
I then, so then the other thing is, he's like, you want to watch something?
And then he shows me like a cartoony thing.
Yeah.
And I was like, all right.
I thought he was going to be like, you want to watch something?
You're like, let me guess.
Star Wars?
How'd you know?
Exactly.
Yeah, I love that movie.
You're like, no shit.
Yeah.
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But it was just too much.
It was too childish.
And I was like, you know, I got to go with my friends because I was visiting this town.
Yeah.
I wasn't living there anymore.
So I was visiting.
Yeah, but that was that that can deter one.
Could Could you imagine walking into a Dan Pena's house?
Yeah.
And you're like, this guy's a millionaire.
He lives in a castle.
And then he's like, and this, this is my desk.
And you're like, hey, you know who that looks like?
Oh.
It doesn't look like.
Is there a reason?
It is the guy that you have it.
It's fucking how.
Well, speaking of this world you're talking about, hooking up and whatnot, you see this clip?
It's pretty exciting.
I'm like sounding very cocky here, but I think it's because I have found this freedom in my 40s where I'm like, oh my god.
So I just want to say this in perspective.
I've probably had three one-night stands in my entire life.
Okay.
But I did just recently a 26-year-old and it was really amazing.
Yes.
Yes.
And I've never done that.
And I was like, oh, this is great.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
I get what this is now.
It's like,
this is okay.
And the other girl's like, yes.
Oh my God.
Fuck it.
Awesome.
This type of girl.
It's the worst.
I can't.
Like, I
this, it's my crypt and I dude, go for it.
That's so cool.
That's so the funny thing that I always find about clips like this, like chicks do this, right?
And they're like, go for it.
And then they say, like, this is the, this is the mental gymnastics of this bit.
Like, they'll say, why isn't it okay?
I know.
For her.
And you're like, oh, yeah, she can.
She can't.
Great.
Just shut up.
Don't tell people.
And then when the guy does it, then they flip on it and they go, you're a pig.
You're a piece of shit.
Yeah.
Right.
And like, you're not supposed to do that.
But for the woman, now you have to like celebrate it.
Well, here's the diff.
Here's the diff.
I don't know how this, how that girl would react to a Farda nine-year-old
saying, I had a one-not stand with a 26-hour.
I think
I think with growth,
like Sarasla, literally, is when the older guy marries the 20-year-old.
So I don't think Charlize is marrying and destroying and being gross there no of course not so like i think that's the diff i think just banging like i don't i think leonardo di caprio and how he conducts his personal life is a hundred percent on the level fantastic yeah great you catch a new release you bang her until she's what 28 and 25 i'm down it's disgusting geriatric yeah so i know what you're saying there's a double there is a double standard because they but it's like a double reverse double standard you know what i mean it's not even true yeah, so like
you know why because fucking an older guy to a younger girl is gross, uh-huh.
Because I can picture what that body looks like.
Yeah, she's smoked, she's still smoking.
Charlie, Charlize, yeah,
she looks great.
Her body's her face, everything's together.
Okay, so her fucking a 20-something.
I see what this is now.
Like, yeah, dude, I love when you die.
Ga.
Like,
that was the thing, Laz.
Like, everybody's saying, like, whatever.
And I was like, huh.
Oh, my God.
So, so like I fuck this guy he's like 26 I was like yes I like it was fantastic and then the other girl has to go like I love that I love that for you I love that for you I love that you figured that out
it's like do you you know what I'm sex positive like this thing is like I'll just sex shaming yeah it's like so like whatever it's like fuck who you want to fuck yeah like if you enjoy it like good for you and body positive everything positive yeah do you give that same speech to a guy
no because but here's why I'll tell you why because historically, men have been able to do that without being shamed.
No, I, I know.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's new for women.
It's new for us.
Is it new?
No, no, no, no.
Hold on.
Hold on.
I'm just saying it's new for us to be able to just say it out.
Look, hey, I'm 40-something.
I banged it 20-moral.
Like, Madonna is very open.
Her boyfriend is.
She's been doing that for fucking 30 years.
I know, but she's also a pariah for it.
People call her, oh, she's a fucking whore and this and that.
I don't think she's a whore.
I'm just doing it.
But she's been
labeled.
She's called a slut.
But one thing that does make me,
that does repulse me is how girls talk like this when it's just like, yeah.
Yeah.
I was like, here's the thing.
I want them to keep this same energy when they see this video.
I'm Ryan, and study shows that if you're an ass guy, you're more likely to be more faithful to a woman than if you're a titty guy.
Don't believe me?
Look it up.
Yeah, I've heard that.
Ladies,
you need an ass man.
He's right.
See, I just want them to have Ryan on and be like, yes.
I'm like God, yes, Ryan.
Ryan, we've heard you're an ass-man, but I wish I could, I can't get with a Ryan.
I'm not an ass girl.
I would love to be.
I'm Ryan.
And to be honest, I just need some head before bed.
Yeah.
And you know what?
You know what she's going to say?
Dude, absolutely.
Absolutely, Ryan.
Yes, you do, girl.
I'm so happy you figured that out.
That you like head before you.
I'm just good.
Good for you, because so many men don't know what they like.
And you're you're aware of your sexuality.
Oh my God.
I think this is why my audience is
male.
You think so?
Well, you know, I've always wondered, I'm like, why don't the girls, you know, I'm not one of these female comics that attracts exclusively a female audience.
I think a lot of it is because I'm not as like this.
Honestly, I'm not.
I wish I were a little more girly.
I really do.
I think I'm fucked up.
I'm fucked in the head.
Well, you know what?
We're going to get a a full fucking review of that pretty soon.
I know.
It's not that I don't like women.
I love them.
Before we break, though.
I'm just fucking traumatized.
We have to bring this up.
Oh, yeah.
You saw Sinners.
Holy shit.
Did I fucking see Sinners, bro?
Do it, any.
I'm dying.
Yeah, just listen to the fucking movie.
They do it fucking 27 times, bro.
For no reason.
They'd just be driving in the fucking car.
I got to tell you this.
You fucking ruined that movie, bro.
The movie ruined itself.
You ruined itself.
You ruined it.
No.
I started watching it.
And Tommy, didn't I say it when we started watching it?
I watched it.
Tommy fucking destroyed this for us.
I watched it again.
You fucking dick.
I saw it in theaters, and then it was on, you know, available to stream or whatever.
So I watched it with Christina.
And I was like, you're going to like this movie.
You're going to like the way it looked.
And like, opening, I don't know, two minutes in, and I'm hearing any bullshit, right?
I'm hearing his bullshit.
And And then, like, two minutes in, it's like you see this shot, and then, you know, the feels, and then you hear it.
I'm like, God damn it, Enny.
And they're picking cotton.
So I'm like, oh, fucking bad.
That's what I'm fucking saying.
As soon as I saw them
in the movie theater,
for real, bro?
This again, bro?
Oh, my.
Well, it's not this again.
I mean, the story is an original story.
No, no, no.
Yes, it is.
No, it's the same fucking story.
Oh, no, it's an original thing.
It's an original story.
People are bad.
No, no, no, no.
Let me tell you.
People win.
Let me tell you what the...
Here's my.
I love the story.
I still love the movie.
I think it's fantastic.
The scene that troubles you, Annie, I actually thought was beautifully done.
She really liked that scene.
I really liked that scene.
The music scene, the one that you didn't like.
Fantastic.
That was just one of the scenes I didn't like.
I mean, you could point out like
75s.
And I'll tell you who I loved is the door guy.
Yeah.
Cornbread.
Cornbread.
Cornbread.
Cornbread.
I thought he was so funny when he goes.
Wait, you think all the actors are?
Cornbread's amazing.
Huh?
You think all the actors?
You don't think the actors are.
I love the actors.
I didn't say that.
I know.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
And he goes, I like when they're like, where have you been?
He's like, it turns out I had to take a shit too.
I was laughing so hard.
He's got great timing, and his face is Jordan's great.
Fantastic.
The whole cast crushed.
And it was so beautiful.
The music was incredible.
The story's great.
Now, here's my only, it was a tad long,
and I do think they wrote two movies in one.
Do you know what I mean?
I think the movie went here, and then they were like, but we also want to do something different.
And I, that's where I kind of had to watch it in two sittings, but I watched it and I loved it.
I enjoyed it.
I loved it.
I enjoyed it.
I like
that, and he doesn't like it, though.
I do too.
Wait, so why did you hate it again?
Let's refresh.
Why?
I mean, first, I'm just tired of the mm-hmm shit.
I'm tired of fucking seeing niggas on the fucking cotton field picking up.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, fuck.
I don't like it.
Oh, my God, bro.
Can we cut the bullshit?
And then, and then the most, I'd say maybe the most annoying part is you're right.
It's like two fucking movies in one.
So, like, halfway in the movie, they're like, oh, yeah, this is a fucking vampire movie.
We should probably do that, right?
Okay, let's do that.
And then they do that.
Yeah.
They do that.
And the fucking graphics, the like, bro, we're in 2025.
It should have looked crazy.
I should have been scared.
I was scared.
I thought it was good.
It was not.
It looked like fucking thriller.
It was
thriller with the red lame eyes.
It was horrible.
I loved it.
I loved the brothers.
Smoke and stack.
I only feel like I'm not allowed to argue with you about this because you're black.
And that's the only thing that's
a slavery themed.
Oh, go ahead.
It's not slavery, though.
No, but it's in the time of, and it's a time when black people don't have power.
Right, but it's like the 1930s or something, right?
Yeah, it was like right after slavery.
I don't even know.
But it still makes me sad.
I don't like to see it.
But somehow they still have fucking cotton fields.
But you know what I did like too?
Asian people with southern accents.
Oh, that was cool.
That was fun.
You never see that.
Yeah.
I like it.
That's cool.
I liked it.
I really did like it.
I loved it.
Super entertaining.
I also thought that the Asian girl being like, come on, like that bullshit, that was stupid.
That didn't make any sense.
What do you mean, come on?
The fucking, you know, I don't want to.
Yes, it does.
When she's like, that part actually was very...
pivotal for me and I like that because that brother had to make a decision right there and she was right That brother?
Brother.
Again, the brother.
The moment, I think you're a friend in the moment where she says to the brother that's.
Oh, oh, okay.
The twin brother.
I thought you meant like the brother that walked in.
That's what I thought you meant.
I was like,
I never heard Christina be like, then this brother came in, you know, the brother with the hat.
And then this female, this other female.
Oh, yeah, that's super black, too.
Super black.
You say female.
When a female, and I was in my vehicle.
My vehicle.
Tommy, look at the TV.
Look at the TV.
You say, look at the TV.
Where you stay at?
No, no, no.
I meant literally the relations.
He had to make a choice.
And that was a really cool moment where she snaps him into making a choice.
I thought that was interesting.
Wait, snaps him into making a choice.
You understand?
Like, he's got to make a choice right there.
No, but she's the one who was like, they only could, you know, come in because she, at the end, was like,
come on.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
because she was like let's get this you gotta invite him in let's go bro um she's a catalyst i liked it listen any i agree i agree with you i don't like can i tell you this though i don't like the slavery theme i get sad i wish it weren't the theme i'm just tired of it man this is the but this i got to tell you something though that is great that is great about this is the entire point of
art whether it's a movie a song a pain like it it is supposed to do this no i mean like that polarizing polarizing is good man man.
It really is.
Like, having opposing views on it.
This is the fun of movies and music.
Thank you.
This is a lovely segue into my painting that is still for sale.
Fuck around and find out.
Yep.
I'm now going to, because it hasn't sold for 30 grand, I'm now increasing the price to 40 grand.
Nice.
Okay.
Fuck around
and find out.
40,000 U.S.
American dollars.
There it is, still for sale.
Yep.
Going up to 40, though.
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Okay.
So.
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By my own little pause,
I did this.
Okay.
And I'm working on a wonderful piece of Tom right now.
Can't wait.
It's been, I'm learning how to do it, and I can't wait to reveal my next creation.
Can't wait.
Do you realize the Russians think we're all faggots?
And it's true.
Let's take a quick break.
And when we come back, here's what we're doing.
We had discussed this on a previous episode, and so we're doing it.
We had
the entire staff, including ourselves,
take
psych evaluations, do
full written tests, and we are having an expert in the psychology field come in and review
how we all did and give her full assessment.
Are any of us on the anti-social personality disorder
chart?
Are we looking at personality disorders in general in this place?
Are people perhaps narcissistic or any number of things?
So she's going to come in and give us the review.
And all I was told is that she got everybody's and she has a few things to say.
That's what I Josh.
What did you say?
You told me when I came in.
That she's very.
Very surprised by the results, very fascinated by everything that's come through.
She has full reports on everyone.
Yeah.
Wait.
All right.
Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
Take my meds.
Still aroused?
You have no idea.
And we are back, and joining us is Dr.
Hope Torres, a licensed professional mental health counselor.
And we brought her in for reasons that we previously mentioned.
Everybody on staff has done written tests for an evaluation.
And Dr.
Torres, you're here to bring us the results.
Yes.
So first of all, I think everybody participated, which was very nice.
16.
16 people participated.
So my question for you, having done this many times and looking at this, is there's a wide spectrum of results, I'm assuming?
Yeah,
people are low in, there's not a lot of concern, and you got some that it's called clinically significant.
They've got certain indicators that would tell them they probably need to go to counseling.
Probably go to counseling.
Counseling medicated, maybe, medicines too.
Maybe not that, but
that gets determined over time.
So it's concerning to the point where they need to be talking to somebody to untangle whatever wires are crossed at the moment.
Yeah.
And to sort through whatever they've gone through.
Are some wires uncrossable on our staff?
That's hard to tell unless you actually sit in sessions with them.
Yeah, that makes sense.
So, just so the audience gets a better grasp of what we did, could you explain the test that people took?
Yeah, it's pretty much called personal personality inventory for DSM-5.
Oh, yeah.
So it's called PID5SF.
So what it does is it gives a list of of personality characteristics such as depression, anxiety, and the list goes on.
And then it also gives your personality disorders.
But it's not a diagnosis.
It's not a diagnosis.
So it gives us symptoms that you have that put you in certain categories for risk, but something for us to assess if we're going to,
what we're going to dig into in therapy to sort out.
Excuse my language, bullshit.
Yeah.
Of what you've gone through versus if you actually have personality disorder.
And just to I just want to inform the audience.
Can you make that a little bigger for me?
Because I'm old.
Just to give people an idea of like some of the questions.
So like just some hundred questions.
Right.
So just leave it there.
People, you know, some of the questions are like, I feel like I act totally on impulse.
And then the person taking the test would either say that that's a very false statement, a somewhat false statement, a sometimes true statement, or a very true statement.
And so over the course of these hundred questions, you're answering questions like that with
an answer of one of those four answers, essentially.
Yes.
And the combination of all these gives you an assessment.
Yes, and it'll cat, like I said, it categorizes, but it measures everything on different scales.
You know, I type it into a program, it calculates it.
Got it.
So it shows different types of scales that you're on, what we pay attention to if you have high anxiety, if you have attachment, if you disengage people too much.
So it shows
well
example I can sometimes see where people might actually have ADHD right on it for certain things you can tell sometimes where people might possibly have
forms of trauma
just because certain traits are elevated I'll tell you this this is kind of interesting thing
that you know not that it's completely different from the rest of society, but I think you do, we do find in our world, in the comedy world, a lot of anxiety, depression, disassociation, trauma.
Like, there's a lot of mental health issues in the comedy world.
Yeah.
And in showbiz in general.
In general, yeah.
But if you hang out like in the hallway of the comedy store, it's like a fucking mental asylum.
I would enjoy standing there.
No, but I can get that just because one thing I've learned is, you know, laughter hides it.
You know, I've come from a life that's got a lot of trauma in it, so I understand laughter.
I used it a lot just to get through.
Now, may I ask you this question to define terms for the audience and for myself.
What is a personality disorder?
It's an alteration in the individual.
It's going to be specific traits that, let me find the best wording for it.
It impacts their functioning more than just anxiety.
drives them to
sorry I do have ADHD so my mind will have its moments it's all good no but it drives an individual to be different it they're gonna be eccentric at different times it's gonna be things that it's very hard for them to manage it's things medication cannot manage got you and they're gonna engage in the world differently they're gonna see the world it's gonna be an altered perspective and to give a further example uh for instance to the to the audience you know an example of a personality disorder would be like histrionic histrionic personality yes there's histrionic borderline personality disorder antisocial and these are all different um very different like they're they they vary to degrees right and and there's things that jump out about somebody that makes you go oh they're at least before you can spend a lot of time they're maybe on this yes in this falling under this category yeah you're gonna see like borderline personality disorder they're
The way they see things is very skewed.
You know, they fear abandonment.
Things are black and white, good and bad, angels and demons.
There's no gray area.
They can be loving to you one moment, and the next moment they absolutely hate you.
You know, you're going to have narcissistic personality disorder.
It's very hard to get that because people don't admit they have it.
Right.
Oh, right.
Because a narcissist won't go.
Exactly.
I'm a narcissist.
No, so you have to almost discover that through sessions if they go to therapy.
So it's one of the lower reported ones.
They're not going to go to therapy.
Because they're not going to go exactly.
And borderlines, too, don't they not?
Or rather, I've heard that they're so exhausting to treat that most therapists don't want to engage
borderline.
Yes, I've had a few borderlines.
They're very hard to stay with.
Some of the thing that's very difficult about borderline is it's workable, it's manageable to live life
when it develops in adulthood.
But when it develops in their teenage years,
the outcome's not as good for them
because it's part of their development.
It's in the development of their brain, it's in the development of their behaviors.
And one of the things with Wordline is the higher suicide rate and self-harm.
Bipolar, too, yeah.
Yeah, so the one thing is bipolar can also be mixed up or misdiagnosed.
Borderline and bipolar can be misdiagnosed for each other.
So that's why this essentially gives you the indicators.
So you have to sort out what it really is.
That's interesting, but bipolar can be medicated.
Yes.
And you're treating symptoms.
Can you tell me to begin?
Let's start with who's doing okay.
Can you guess who is the first person?
Hold on, hold on.
I'm going to go Tyler.
No.
No, shit.
Still water's running deep.
No, no, he ain't the top.
Zolo?
Zolo.
Zolo's a good boy.
Zolo?
So you have things that gauge average, they gauge elevated, and they gauge clinically significant.
None of his register, they register below average or right above average.
Wow, Josh, your parents did good.
If you were to go to the personality disorder,
the only two above average is antisocial with psychopathy and narcissism.
Oh, I know.
But that's just...
That's it.
It's just, those are...
So the front of the page.
Yeah.
You're describing the test still.
So our buddy Zolo doesn't have psychopathy, narcissism.
No.
All he's got, this is the average scale.
So he's below average scale.
So this is the personality traits.
Right.
So he's doing real well.
Somebody needs to marry him.
Husband.
And then this is like what the next sheet looks like for the results.
Got it.
Okay.
So he's on this scale.
Good job.
So he did great.
He did really good, and that's his personality disorder one.
Okay.
Wow.
So he did really good.
Second would be Tyler.
Tyler.
Hey, that's good.
Yep.
And then Tyler scored higher on his negative affectivity.
That's going to be more anxiety-driven.
Sure.
Sure.
I can see that.
And for his personality disorder,
he was above average, close to elevated with narcissism.
Okay.
Wow.
But people are hearing that and hearing, oh, this person may be a narcissist.
And it's not really that.
It's just showing me that, hey, you've got some things that, you know, put you up in this thing of,
I think about myself and
everything about him, he always wears shorts because he's always trying to show his legs.
Well, he's clinically significant.
He's always trying to show his legs off.
He's clinically significant in attention-seeking, so I'd be seeing why.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Clinically significant in attention.
And
clinically significant in rigid perfectionism.
I love that.
That's why he's a significant thing.
Well, he is a photographer.
He's a fantastic photographer.
That's good for him.
And clinically significant in separation and security.
Might have attachment issues.
Okay.
He loves his hair, too.
It's really cool.
He might be attached to it.
My father was.
He traveled with a curl brush with this.
Oh, that's Tyler all day.
Yeah, it was horrible.
Hairspray.
He has curlers all the time.
He's high anxiety, though.
That makes sense.
I think a lot of us do on this stuff.
Now, that was one, two, three, four,
five.
Number six?
Who did you guys think was the craziest?
Gamba.
I thought.
Oh, no.
You thought.
Okay.
Any.
Last item, you guys said any.
I think it's any.
No.
No.
He's in the top six of being the lowest.
Wow.
Shut the fuck up.
But we have to point something out here that really smart, conniving,
narcissistic psychopaths will manipulate these tests so that they appear to be.
I wondered about that.
I wondered about that because y'all's last episode, he said he was going to gaslight the therapist.
That's right.
That's right.
She watched it.
So I was ready and prepared.
That was AI.
That wasn't me.
Because
I think Annie fudged his answers.
I think he's, I think he will lie on the test.
Well, he did well.
He did well.
He is.
Way to go, Annie.
That's impossible.
That isn't fucking impossible.
Here's what I will say.
Here's what I will say.
I think if I took this test literally like three months ago, it'd be very different.
I did that TMS shit, right?
Yeah.
And so I think, honestly, it fuck yo.
Are you medicated too?
Are you on meds?
No, I actually stopped my meds.
I was on some crazy shit.
Well, I stopped it because of.
You did say something.
We had a small chat before, and one of the things you said was this, you know, depends the day you take this test, which makes sense.
You can have bad mood and you can relate in the moment.
Yes.
You know, like
you can go and you even mentioned, you know, it can be either, do you decipher between professional and personal?
Right.
You know, and what's what.
I felt like it was this, I was making it for the audience to know.
I was like, you know, one of the questions was like, are you attention seeking?
And I was like thinking about my normal everyday thing of like, I don't like attention when I walk into any room.
And then I go, but it's disingenuous for me as a performer to say I don't like attention because when I'm on stage, I certainly want your attention.
So things like that, right?
Where you kind of go, how do I answer this?
Yeah, and you got like the histrionic personality disorder where there is attention seeking, there is manipulation, you know, and especially in the sense of using their body for attention, you know, trying to the flirtation and everything.
You know, and yeah, and I've actually got questions for you, it's been
awesome.
Okay.
But any, anyway, he was clinically significant in disinhibition,
which means he is orientated toward immediate gratification.
Yes, individuals scoring high on this can be easily distracted, may act on impulse, and have difficulty with responsibility and commitment.
Yeah, of course.
Now,
he was high
on, he was above average on schizotypal, which is just very eccentric person,
and antisocial with psychopathy.
What the fuck?
Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, wait, what?
What the fuck happened?
I thought we were like number fucking three.
What the hell happened?
That's a scam.
The rest of us are number six.
What the fuck happened?
Which means he's characterized by callousness.
Yeah.
What?
Deceitfulness.
Yes.
Impulsivity.
Yes.
This is crazy.
Irresponsibility.
Manipulative.
Yes.
Risk-taking.
Yes.
Yes.
Attention-seeking.
Yes.
And low levels of anxiety and withdrawal.
So, what would his personality disorder be if he were to lean into one?
Antisocial with psychopathy.
Yeah.
This is, hold on,
but he's still,
it's above average, but not significant that would make me go ding, ding, ding.
He needs therapy.
There you go.
Wow, you're aware of that.
That's a positive result, Annie.
Okay.
Annie, you don't need therapy.
I mean, you know, don't need therapy.
All right.
Okay.
So those words were, you know, a little concerning.
There were a lot of crazy words out there.
Well, if you do want to kill people,
but if you do want to gaslight a therapist, you do want attention from the therapist.
I have a question, Dr.
Hope.
What about ADHD?
Does he lean towards that?
Because he said that himself many, like, I'm ADHD.
I'm ADHD.
And I wonder if he really is.
If you look towards distractability.
Yeah, that was my number one thing, right?
Yes.
Yeah.
Eccentric, just kind of like off-the-chart, off-the-wall thoughts and experiences, withdrawal, um, separation, insecurity would be part of that.
But his anxiety kind of takes that down a little bit.
Got it.
But the thing is, is ADHD also looks different for everybody.
And it looks different, especially for men and women.
You know, like I struggled with ADHD as a kid, but never knew it until I became a therapist.
And I was like, oh, crap, I've had it.
But now that...
I'm in perimenopause, it actually impacts my ADHD even more.
Cool.
So it increases it.
Fuck.
What is it?
Awesome.
God, life is hard.
Life is fun.
Yeah.
Okay.
So let's move along to.
I'm dying to.
I'm shaking.
I'm so excited.
I'm so excited.
So I will give you.
I love this.
Hang on.
I'm still sorting through them.
So I can't believe you made top six healthiest, Andy.
I am.
He did.
And that means everyone else is absolutely not
four, five, six.
Let me ask you before you say this next thing.
Yes.
Are there any like red flag people on this course?
Yes, and I want to challenge them, but they're not here.
Okay, well, let's go.
Multiple people or just one?
Let's save a couple.
Let's save
the top three.
I don't know what they are yet.
That's amazing.
I guess I should just ask, let's just fit right to it.
What's going on in between?
Yeah, you go.
Starting at where you get elevated and clinically, where things are just higher is Garrett.
So, Garrett is high in negative affectivity.
He is clinically significant in that.
And elevated in disinhibition.
Oh, wow.
Which means he is high in anxiety, high in separation anxiety,
high in emotional ability.
He's high in anhedonia.
And that.
He's depressed as fuck.
Well, you know, those guys are in edifase.
That's fine.
Yeah, that makes sense.
High distractibility,
high impulsivity.
Good.
Eccentricity.
And
this is where the personality disorders
out of one, two, three, four, five, six, out of seven,
five started to, five are above average.
The one that goes into clinically significant is borderline personality disorder.
Male borderlines are very rare, aren't they?
Usually it's women.
Yeah, it's usually women in that.
Wow.
So congratulations, Garrett.
What brings him into that is his anxiety,
emotional liability, impulsivity, risk-taking, and separation and security.
Wow.
Okay.
That's good.
That's fine.
Good job, Garrett.
He's a great editor, though.
I know.
It all works in his favor.
Who's next?
Caitlin.
I love Caitlin.
Caitlin.
Caitlin goes clinically significant into negative affectivity and psychoticism.
And that
was pretty much from anxiety, emotional liability, or liability, eccentricity, perceptual dysregulation, and unusual beliefs.
Yeah.
Which brings her into
five of the seven are above average.
Borderline is elevated, so we would consider that.
And a
clinically significant is schizotypal.
Okay.
What does this mean?
Very eccentric.
Oh, cool.
Which is very good.
So I'll give you a person.
Let me give you an example here.
I've got, like, there's so many examples.
Schizo.
Schizotypal.
Schizotypal.
So you have,
yeah, it's typical.
Tipple typical.
Just the way it's pronounced.
Personality disorder.
So, yeah, I've got so much information, it's ridiculous, and my mind can't remember every single thing.
Pervasive pattern of social and interpersonal deficits.
Yes.
Discomfort with and reduced capacity for close relationships is a cognitive.
Yeah, this is me, too.
I mean, what are you talking about?
Everybody is eccentric.
Yeah.
But I think being in the field that y'all are, you have to have an oddity.
But here's the thing: Caitlin's funny, and I think
I would not want her to get treatment.
No, no, no.
No.
I like that.
She has great ideas.
She's done some of the funniest videos here for us.
So please don't get help.
No.
No, but see, like an example of schizotypal is Back to the Future, the Professor.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yes.
Caddyshack, Bill Murray in it.
Yes.
So that's more, that's what the schizotypal is: just odd.
Okay.
That's so cool.
Standout type of thing.
That's why I like her.
Next is Cougar.
Oh, Cougar's right there.
Right after her.
Clinically significant in antagonism.
Hey.
Means you can be a jerk.
Yeah.
Disinhibition.
So he scored high for deceitfulness.
Wow.
Grandiosity.
Wow.
Thinks very highly of himself.
Oh, yeah.
And manipulative.
Wow.
Cougar.
Yeah.
Cougar, how do you feel about that?
Cougar needs to see therapy.
Congratulations, Cougar.
That's awesome, Cougar.
Good for you.
Because every one of them.
Wow.
Cougar.
Dude, you scored so high.
Congratulations.
Every personality disorder goes up.
He is highest in antisocial, antisocial with
psychopathy,
and the highest is narcissism.
Cougar, this is a revelation to all of us.
This is very exciting.
Also, Cougar's very good at his job, too.
So, I recommend not seeking therapy because whatever you're doing is working for us.
Yeah, but here's the thing: if you want to stay here, you stay how you are.
Yeah, yeah, don't change.
So, Cougar started the top five.
He starts the top five.
Yeah,
so number four, uh-huh.
And I met her, uh-huh, Heather.
What?
I would have thought she's the most normal.
Yeah.
They get you.
Where is she?
They get you.
Y'all don't see her when you leave, man.
I'm not going to say what vehicle I drove in.
I don't want my tire slash.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
No, she's not that bad.
But she's elevated in antagonism.
Really?
I don't see that.
Clinically significant in disinhibition and psychoticism.
Wow.
And she did start scoring high on her personality disorder.
So Heather, here's Heather right here.
She's a winner.
She's a winner.
Good job, Heather.
She's very talented, very slight.
She's amazing.
But this is awesome is she's elevated and antisocial with psychopathy.
Well, here she is here.
Do you have any girls?
My girl.
Yes.
Doctor, that you'd like to ask Heather?
Well, I guess once I look at narcissism being clinically significant.
Wow.
How do you think about yourself?
I don't know.
I just felt like I answered it like first gut.
I was like, yeah, sometimes I do that or think that way, but I never would have thought.
With attention seeking, what are ways you'd say, like, to seek attention?
Performing, music.
Oh,
what do you do?
I play keys and sing.
That would be the only way for attention seeking?
And in my work.
She does butthole videos on OnlyFans.
I was going there.
I try to be good at everything I do so that I can get social media.
So to ask you a normal therapy question.
Do you have a close relationship with your parents?
Not super close.
Who's closer?
Mom?
Mom.
Was dad around a lot?
Or was he emotionally detached?
Probably emotionally detached.
Have you had struggle with dating off and on?
No.
Do you get attached very quickly?
I mean, I don't have much to compare it to.
I've been married for seven years, so.
How old are you?
29.
Oh, okay.
So you're young.
So did you date in high school?
Mm,
just like casually.
If you were to rate on
self-esteem on a scale of one to ten, one being pissed poor, can't you don't want to think of yourself, ten is I am the utmost, most amazing thing God created.
Seven?
That's pretty average.
What would you think of your relationship with your husband?
I think it's pretty good.
Hmm.
We enjoy each other's company a lot and
have, I think, a good emotional balance.
Okay.
I won't go too deep into her on that.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, I will say, Heather is very pleasant to be around and just such a talented darling.
But what's her personality disorder?
It would be a narcissism.
Wow.
Wow.
So she was high on attention seeking.
Now, the one thing with therapy, you know,
has been described too.
Never mind.
Is that you have to do random questions?
Like,
I ask questions and I think of it like a spider web.
It's never always a straight sequence.
I jump around to see everything that's connected because I'll look at things like this and I kind of look at it like a spider web.
The core issues at the center of it and all of the rings around it are the different behaviors that developed off of it.
And somehow they're all interconnected.
And therapy usually hits the outside to knock it down.
But what happens is that behavior rebuilds, but in a different way.
So if you don't get at the core, you're not going to dismantle it.
So that's why my questions were kind of bouncing around what I was asking with her.
So it is very normal that if you have narcissism in the family, certain behaviors are going to be passed on generationally.
Yeah, you'll inherit.
And so, like, um, distractibility, clinically high on
eccentricity,
grandiosity,
irresponsibility, nice, perceptual dysregulation, unusual beliefs, separation, insecurity, and rigid perfectionism.
Well, you know, I know something, Heather, I think you're awesome.
You are where you belong.
Yeah,
oh, I met her, she's just she just felt like a saint.
She's the best.
Yeah, I loved her.
I just took her vibes.
Who's next?
Top three.
Top three.
Gamba.
So, Jesus Christ.
By the way, I love Heather's tattoos on her face.
Oh, she's the coolest.
Yeah, she's the coolest.
Gamba is one of our editors.
I'll just say this: from somebody who, like, you know, I come in and out of the office, I see him with some frequency, troubling, troubling individual.
Oh, my God.
I was wondering.
Yeah.
We need to talk.
I have openings next week.
I even do weekends seven days a week.
Yeah.
Wow.
I will talk at eight o'clock at night if you need to.
I'll skip the gambling.
Oh, there he is.
I'll skip the gym for Gamba.
You need help, my friend.
Yeah, what's happening?
You got a sigh, dude.
Once I got to these top three, like it described in the lobby, I had a mental heart on
because this would be amazing to dive into.
So, Gamba,
he threw up some flags.
Yeah.
So the personality domain
for psychoticism, antagonism, disinhibition.
Whoa.
You're off the charts.
You're literally off the chart.
I think
another thing, too, as a non-professional is that he has that great quality of a
like a kind of like a troubling individual who doesn't realize that they are that way.
You know what I mean?
Like he has such a pleasant demeanor walking in, but you're like, you're fucking crazy.
Well, he's probably just used to living in it.
Yeah.
It's just part of who he is.
Yeah.
It's just, it'll be part of his childhood development.
What is the personality disorder that is most likely
in him?
It's hard to determine.
Schizoid?
Some schizoid stuff.
He's definitely removed from reality.
Holy shit.
Oh, my God.
all of them all of them all of them the top the top two are schizotypal which we're not gonna say is a big thing
but antisocial definitely and borderline wow nice how's it feel gamba i don't feel good right now you don't no but see that's a healthy response and and and so i guess the question is
Did you have a good childhood?
No.
Yeah.
I love my parents.
Like, I get along with them.
Oh, you're fucked.
Get into the.
Did you have some form of trauma when you were a kid?
I mean, I can't get into it.
Nope, I'm not going to get into the trauma then.
That already tells my mind in the direction I would go.
Okay.
So there's levels of trauma.
Now, borderline, a lot of people will say borderline comes from trauma, and it doesn't.
Really?
Nope, not at all.
Where does it come from?
First, it can be just developed.
Yes.
It can be developed.
It can be from experiences, but that's kind of in the low percentage of it.
But this also tells me that there's, that's why I asked on the trauma, because if there is trauma, he's going to have a lot of these behaviors that attention seeking is across the board.
You know, deceitfulness,
hostility, manipulative, risk-taking.
Sometimes, like I said, out there, risk-taking comes for some people because they're trying to stay in reality.
Right.
You know, do you ever feel like there's times you dissociate or you disengage when things get highly stressful or confrontational?
It happened a second ago right now.
My bad.
But he is a sweetheart, though.
He is a sweetheart.
And some people can cheat like that.
But also, too, because I dissociated for many years before I knew that's what I was doing.
Can you describe what that means?
What happens, how it feels.
This is how I explain to my people.
I don't use the word client because I hate that word.
It's so detached, you know.
So I use people.
The way I describe trauma to my people is when we're born, you know, the right side of our brain comes right online into the world.
Baby starts to learn their behaviors, you know, they start to learn emotions.
This is where our trauma responses develop.
Then you got the left side of the brain that starts to develop over time, which is our normalcy of life.
Our key time is our adolescent years, 12 to 16.
That's also the key time our prefrontal cortex, or I call our adult mind, starts to develop.
So our normalcy of life is his normalcy will be different than my normalcy.
Y'all's normalcy are also going to be different.
If you have a healthy home, there's a proper balance and communication between all of them, all three of them.
But if you have trauma, on the left side is where you start to develop the behaviors to exist within that trauma.
I watched an episode from two years ago.
I'm going to sound like a creeper now, when your mom came to visit and you guys were in Miami or you guys were in Hawaii.
Oh, yeah.
You know, but then I watched the next day episode
or the next episode.
And
the way you were talking about the way you grew up with your mom.
I get it.
I don't talk to my mother, you know.
So what happens is you start to develop behaviors to live within that world because this becomes the good child.
Because if dad's a drunk, I know I have to go in my room and hide and he ain't going to beat me.
So we start to develop this.
This is where you're going to find the dissociation and everything because it's like, if I disengage, I won't get hurt.
But then what happens is the other side is where we have our emotions.
We can have a dysregulation of emotions because everything gets put away.
This becomes the bad child.
And I kind of tell tell people, remember in history the timeline, and you had to put the dot and the events that happened in time.
So if you have the Civil War, the emotions and the experiences that happened in that time started, developed in that time.
Everybody grew off of that.
It's the same thing with our behaviors.
Say if you're six years old and
you get sexually assaulted.
Well, an emotion develops in that time.
So when you're an adult and you're having certain experiences, remember you didn't go through that.
A child went through that.
So it's a child's emotion that gets developed in that time that never properly got to grow.
So I tell people, you didn't go through the trauma, a child did.
So what happens is think of a hallway and every child part that got developed, each emotion that got developed in time kind of gets put away in the room and they're not allowed to come up.
But when they come out, we don't know how to handle it.
We don't know how to handle them because we never learned to regulate them.
Because they were bad, they got us in trouble, they got us beat, they got us everything bad.
So there's no proper communication because the prefrontal cortex, the adult mind, is supposed to calm everybody and regulate everybody.
You know, your decision-making, your rationalization, and all of that.
On the Hawaii episode, did you see what a gaslighting manipulator my mother is?
I could see certain things, yeah.
But I could see how you learned how to engage that by acting as if that didn't exist.
And then she becomes kind of like your rescuant
because she sees it.
Because I know it's probably a reflection of your mom, but you kind of go back and you become his protector.
Yes.
Because I could see a recoil in you.
But then when everybody answered,
I watched everybody's posture back there.
And I'm wondering,
I can't see you.
I can, because I'm parked midget, I can't see.
Ah, there they are.
I can see their heads.
Raise your hand if one of you, if any of y'all felt like a recoil, a child recoil, going against somebody older than you or an adult.
None of you wait I think I don't understand it no so so when you when he asked when you guys were doing the burping thing or no your beard you're you're talking about your beard what looked better because you had shaved oh right right right this is an old episode yeah two years ago yeah I'm kind of weird me talk about Hawaii I want to talk about Hawaii
yes so you had shaved and it was the first time in like 15 years you said yeah yeah so you shaved and you had stubble and she was trying to say no no no go back and you were like all right let me ask the guys.
And she said, no, no, they're going to give you the answer that you want because you're the boss.
But I kind of saw, yeah, not everybody relaxed,
answering, not in the way she thought.
Well, what I remember most about, like what comes to me about that episode was
the thing where I remember she was saying,
She wanted me to buy something for her on that trip.
The necklace.
The necklace.
And what I did, I was like, yeah, I wasn't like volunteering.
She goes, yeah, you did.
And we brought my sister in.
Yeah.
And she was like, I can't lie.
And then my mom was like, how much did he pay you?
Like, she.
She, she can't believe that, you know, type of thing.
Yeah.
But I guess when you guys had to give what his beard looked like, did you feel awkward going against her?
No, no.
No.
Not me, personally.
Anybody?
Solo, did you feel weird?
No, I'm not going against her.
No?
Okay.
Because I saw tense.
Yeah, maybe they were.
I mean, it was probably tense because they saw someone wanting to kill their mother.
Yeah, that could be it, too.
Yeah, she's the worst.
So, but, I mean, and that's where I'm trying to go is like, sometimes there's like a child recoil.
Yeah, of course.
Where you had already, you know, it was like, this is mom.
And it's like, no matter how old we get, there's still that part of us that responds to that.
So I guess with Gamba,
well, no, he already dissociated.
So that already tells me.
Now, are you being honest that you dissociated or are you BSing me?
No, I was being honest, but I'm back in.
Okay, so dissociation, let me ask you this.
When you dissociate, what does that feel like to you?
Do you just space out or do you kind of go numb?
I kind of like get like some words come in, but I'm really, I don't know, like I'm in my head.
Okay.
So, what that tells me is when we talk about child parts, those trauma parts, something got engaged saying you got too close too quick.
And so, now that's a defense mechanism.
Would you say that would be fair?
Yeah.
Okay.
And so that's how you deal with trauma.
But if there is something like that from the heart, I think it would probably one day get to that point to process stuff.
It won't take away from the job you do,
but it'll help you have your perspective kind of cleared up.
Okay, so Gamba and Gamba only can go to therapy.
Yeah.
Gamba's allowed.
Who's next?
Gamba, I think, would do.
Who's next on the red flag list?
Because we're at the top two.
By the way,
I'm over here like freaking out, wondering.
What y'all are on?
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is number two we're about to do?
Yes.
Okay, who is number two?
Niana.
Oh, what?
Thank you for talking with me, Gamba.
Thanks, Gamba.
Thank you, Gamba.
Good therapy.
Niana.
There she is.
Lover.
It's my girl right there.
So the only one she was not elevated on was antagonism.
Oh, yeah, I can see that.
But everything else she was.
Everything else she was.
Oh, you broke the scale.
Holy shit.
Yeah, she's up there.
Damn, girl.
You're a high achiever, buddy.
We're a high-end, clinically significant negative affectivity.
Sure.
What does that mean?
What does that mean for, like, what does negative effectivity mean?
The way they see the world, very negative, very anxious.
Okay.
You know, suspicious of it.
Okay.
Then the psychoticism and this inhibition.
Okay.
Now,
it's she had the emotional ability.
It can fluctuate.
Fluctibility means changeability.
So
now she can disengage her emotions very quickly.
So it's like a...
Have you ever had that out-of-sight out on mine?
Definitely.
Do you have ADHD?
I've never been diagnosed.
Okay.
But yeah, usually if you have somebody that's very negative,
well, do you yo-yo back and forth like with attachment with people?
Like you want them close, but you don't want them close?
Like if they get too close, it's like you got got to put the brakes on yeah i could see that but if they try and walk away and ignore you does it suck yeah okay
and then um she's high in eccentricity yeah perceptual dysregulation yes unusual beliefs of course aliens she and i talk about all the time i'll talk about you with aliens
um distractability irresponsibility
withdrawal she's a great employee no
she really is amazing also another one, I got to say,
doing a great job.
Do not get help.
No,
she would probably, well, no.
But she scored high on things.
That's up there.
Elevated.
So she's elevated on schizotypal, which is okay.
She's elevated on OCD.
Oh, yeah, of course.
She is clinically significant on avoidant.
Of course.
And creeping into borderline.
Oh, good congratulations.
You got a nice dash of it.
That's all you got.
She got a good sprinkle of everything.
Some seasoning.
So, have you.
Who are you closer to in your family?
My mom.
Your mom?
Yeah, but we are both emotionally volatile together.
Is your mom an anxious person?
Absolutely.
Was there any parentification?
100%.
Yeah.
Was dad around?
Yeah, he's a good dad.
Okay.
But your mom, did she come from a hard life?
Yes, definitely.
Did she deal with abuse?
Yep.
Do you think she was overreactive with you?
Definitely.
Was she a helicopter parent?
No, I wouldn't say so.
If you were to talk to her and tell her how you were feeling, what would she do?
She'd get very defensive.
Make it about her.
Yeah.
Were you talking about my mom or Nia's mom?
You guys related?
No?
Yeah, you could be.
Oh, my God.
Do you
are you anxious about how people perceive you?
Oh, yeah, that's all I think about all the time.
Oh, baby.
We love you.
Thank you.
She looks so innocent.
She's a sweet girl.
She's really.
She really is great.
For you,
do you panic when people get close to you?
Like, say, okay, let me reword reword it.
Do you give too much of yourself to people really quick?
Oh, yeah, probably.
Are you quick to end friendships or relationships?
Yes.
Hmm, that's borderline as shit.
You got
So
what is your perception just of your life?
Of my life or like of myself?
Let's go yourself.
Um I think I'm very anxious and I'm a perfectionist that needs validation.
So
I call this a perception filter.
So
when I was younger, we did something called the grapevine effect, but I guess they'd call it telephone.
You put people in a line, you tell the first person a sentence, and then everybody passes it on and whispers.
And at the end, you have a totally different sentence.
I kind of look at that as that's life.
People tell us something, and then all of these people in the middle are the experiences that we've had in life that change our perspective of how we see things.
That's the filter that this truth has to go through.
And on the other side is we get a skewed
version of that statement.
Sure.
So sometimes when you have people that have had, especially, I have a lot of people that have very anxious mothers, very controlling mothers, emotionally manipulative mothers.
You know, it's hard for them to trust people.
Do you have a hot, do you feel more comfortable with friendships with men or women?
Women.
Really?
Yeah, I think so.
I think here, definitely, right?
Like at the studio?
Yeah.
By the way,
I feel
the same, like the same type of mother stuff.
Yes.
And I definitely feel more at ease with women, even like though my mother is like, I feel like.
And sometimes people go the opposite to the healthier side.
So, okay, I guess that was all I could ask for that.
Okay, here's what,
Niana, don't get help.
Okay, we're down to number one.
I am so anxious.
Please be Christina.
Is it Christina?
Is it Christine?
Is it Christina?
No.
Fuck.
But I think this person fudged their test.
Wow.
Is it me?
No.
Did you fucking lie?
No, I'm asking what she said.
But I think this person
was doing it just to be us or to have fun.
Because if not, so what happened is when I ran this person's test for this assessment, I messaged Zolo and I had to ask if he was a combat veteran.
Fuck, Chris Larson?
Where's Chris's test, by the way?
Wait, so hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
Before we get to this, before we get to this, our combat vet, who's deeply troubling,
can you tell us, based on your tests, test, who is crazier between me and Christina?
Because that's really what you're doing.
Wait, wait, we're going to do this
first?
Yeah, of course.
Because we know it's not us.
No, you guys are separate from her from the other.
So we have to ask you.
But where do we go on the scale of?
I know.
I'm just excited.
Almost
Christina.
Where am I?
Christina's crazy.
She got more than you.
More what?
Now the suspense starts.
So this person.
Okay.
Tanner.
Tanner.
So Tanner, just to be clear,
I think our youngest person.
He's a comedian.
Like I told you, comedians are very crazy.
He's fucking mine.
He is crazy and shit.
It's either he's really crazy or he was just having fun.
Because
he's young like that.
I think he did it to manipulate.
I think it's a little bit of both.
Because.
Wait, can we call him?
Yeah.
Why don't we get him in?
I'd say that he manipulated the exam.
Oh, yeah, he's fucking with you.
There's no way.
Well, let's ask him.
Let's ask him.
Yeah.
and by the way,
Tanner.
What's up?
Hey, how are you, buddy?
I'm good.
Where are you today?
We thought you'd be here.
Yeah, where are you?
Oh, I'm actually, I'm in California right now.
I'm in SoCal.
You still work here?
Yeah, yeah, I do.
Okay.
So we're going through the psych evaluations, and we've run through all of them, and she had one that she flagged.
She's like, this is the most significant one by far.
Did I win?
win well she she thought it was somebody who maybe served time uh in combat um whoa yeah and so the real question here with uh with with dr hope is um
is did you manipulate your answers or were you truthful like were you having fun or were you being honest were you goofing no i was i was like really locked in for that uh i like wanted to like be honest about it because i heard like a professional was going to analyze it so so you were on it
pretty seriously let me make a disclaimer.
This isn't saying combat vets are bet shit crazy.
No, no, no.
But it's just that it's...
Have you gone through some serious stuff in life?
I mean, other people might think it's serious, but I think it's kind of fun.
He lived in a cargo.
What is it?
A cargo
container.
I lived in a shit big container for like a year, and then I.
How old are you?
23.
Oh, you're still a baby.
What's wonderful is he's still in development.
Yeah.
Brain's not done developing until around 25.
Lobe is not fully found.
No, it is.
It's between 12 to 16.
However, that's the key development, but just the way he sees things, the way he sees the world, the way he's processing,
it's like think of your brain slowly getting encased in glass.
You can change things, take things out, remove things, but once that glass casing comes in,
it's kind of like it's set in and it takes longer to kind of readapt things or change things.
So Tanner was clinically significant in almost every category?
I showed you that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Whoa.
Sounds like a Navy SEAL.
You go.
When I was in combat
in Afghanistan.
Whoa.
So you are at like the hundredth percentile for antisocial, antisocial with psychopathy, borderline, narcissistic, and schizo-tipple.
Whoa.
Oh, my goodness.
And above average and avoidant and obsessive compulsive so it's kind of like what i ask a lot of people congratulations did you have a good home life
um does this mean i'm going to be successful
well honestly depends how you use it
okay well we're on the the light side of the force so
so that's good yeah i mean this is not um so that would be avoidant so that's that's avoidant right um but he's not uh I don't, you know, he's funny.
He says outrageous things, which, by the way, all comedians do.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Very funny.
I wasn't
or anything, but I almost was.
There's the full sentence.
There we go.
I wasn't going that deep with everybody today, but no, but that shows, it's just that there's probably going to be some stuff there.
Was there ever in the family?
Was there anybody with
anger, alcohol, or drug use?
Yeah, yes, yes.
It took a while for my parents to tell me about it, but yeah.
Okay.
Did you grow up where things were unstable or you moved around a lot?
Like, I was unstable?
No, the home was unstable.
Did you guys move around a lot?
I got a pee, I'm so happy.
I mean, we lose.
I'll be right back.
We lose.
Okay.
Were parents home a lot?
Sometimes.
Like, my mom decided to get, like, a job at one point, so that was kind of cool.
That was kind of chunky.
Um,
what
getting a job don't count on it.
Yeah.
So, so it's, it's, if he answered truthfully on these, yeah, one day I'd definitely say, you know, it doesn't take away from who you are as a person, but it'll be some things just to dive into and talk to someone on.
Yeah, so Tanner, would you be open to just going to therapy, like seeing what if it does something for you?
Yeah, I mean, that would be something I'd
look into.
Okay.
I for sure have some problems.
I do know that.
Well, yeah, we all do, buddy.
It's not just you.
Everybody
learned I'm like in like the top of the top.
Like I'm
special forces retarded.
You're not.
Don't say retarded.
Tanner, you got some stuff you dealt with.
There were 16 evaluations, and there was one she put aside where she goes, we really need to discuss this one.
And that is yours.
That's you, buddy.
So
when you get back,
we'll have some places for you to go, maybe.
I'll leave my business card beyond.
Great.
That's great.
I think it'd be fun to know exactly which category he ultimately falls into.
Sort through all of it and see.
You're not going to make me take meds.
No, no, I don't.
See, I'm not a psychiatrist.
I
didn't know her.
No, no, no, no, no.
I'm not a fan of medicine unless it's absolutely necessary, like as a
supportive device, a supportive, you know, thing.
Just talking now.
Some talk therapy, man.
Yeah, no.
And
I focus on complex trauma, and that's what my doctorates is towards is traumatology.
Well, I have the brain of a combat veteran.
He's really,
you got, you got some trauma that is off the charts for someone.
You got
numbers that are off the charts for someone your age without having gone through any form of trauma.
And for you, that would be a good idea.
I mean, I've gone through trauma.
Yeah.
And so, no, this just shows that there's something there, a lot of things that are there that probably haven't been dealt with.
Yeah, no, I do a lot of like self-dealing.
I'm going to say that would probably be weird.
I'm a wealth of a professional, but I don't know.
I don't know any professionals, really.
Yep.
And so it's just, there's just some things that look like they've got to be sorted out.
That's all.
Let's get you in a room, bud.
Let's get you in a room on a couch.
Awesome.
Okay.
I like the casting couch.
Well,
if you do want to do therapy, I only do virtual.
Okay.
And Tanner, therapy doesn't make you less funny, so don't worry about that.
It'll actually make you better at stand-up and make it funnier.
And what it can do is take a lot of the negatives and they can actually become things you can use to help yourself.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, uh.
Don't say combat vet.
That was a mistake on my part.
No, I wasn't.
I was just saying, like, people turn bad things into good things all the time.
Oh, no.
And a lot of people will, you know, there you'll have some therapists that will do it wrong where they try to take away all of the negative things that you've had, or like all of the child trauma parts.
They try and make them go away instead of saying, Let them exist, let them have importance, you know, because our trauma parts all play a role in our lives.
They become pretty much our protectors, but they end up hurting us at the same time.
If they're too
tricky, yeah, if they're too strong, like
you know, if you think about people that can be self-destructive, oh, yeah, well, that's also a defense mechanism.
Oh, I think I'm a little bit of that.
Oh, for sure, yes, plus your age, 23 is a little bit of a teacher.
You're such a baby, so you'll see stuff like that.
So, you know, it's just there might be behaviors of distrust.
There might be behaviors of, you know, being avoidant.
You know,
let me tell you stuff, but I'm not going to tell you stuff.
Right.
Sometimes possibly being passive aggressive when it doesn't need to happen.
Tana, we're going to turn this alarming red flag into a positive.
That's a good thing.
Yeah.
It's a great thing.
You're fine.
You're good, buddy.
You're good.
You're going to be great.
Safe travels back.
Don't hurt anybody.
No, we miss you.
Get back here.
Okay, I won't hurt anybody.
Oh, boy.
With a laugh.
So just monitor his path across the stage.
Yeah, so we should see.
Because I looked and I was like, battery's a serial killer.
That's good.
Okay, first of all, I'm very upset that you think I'm crazier than Tom.
First of all, I'd like to.
So you're beautiful, by the way.
Thank you, babes.
First of all, where do I rank in the lineup of the 16?
You,
well, for
you would probably actually none of yours can't neither of you, you guys would be in the top two, two to three.
What do you mean, of crazy or of less crazy?
Less crazy.
Nice.
You guys would be in the tops.
Shut the fuck up.
So, no way.
Can we go back to you guys would be rerun the test.
There's no way.
Yep.
You guys would be three and four.
You would come above.
You would come before Reed.
Me?
Both of you.
Dude.
High five, bro.
You guys would come before Reed.
Yeah, Reed's fucked up.
Yeah.
Reed's not bad.
No, he's normal.
Wait, so you're saying of all these people that work here, Tom and I are the most.
In the top five.
Of healthiest.
Yes.
Talk about fudging answers.
Now, after watching Bad Thoughts.
Yo.
Yo.
I have a question.
Thank you.
What were you doing in the moment?
You came up with that.
Were you on the toilet?
Was she doing some dominatrix stuff were you drinking were you in a car accident wait oh no the whole thing oh oh oh um because at one point i was gonna say you know there's some scenes i mean was there pegging going on or something at home because you came up with some crazy ass ideas i'm just trying to figure out me too i'm trying to figure out where they're from as well no i'm being serious oh yeah i i i was like uh because i'm like this is mental health problems when i saw that show i'm like first of all how many it's all it's dick stuff it It was like, he just wants to fuck the world.
That's what
it all was.
What was going on at that time?
Just got renewed for season two.
Very excited to be back in the writer's room.
I think of it, I thought of it like a mix between your comedy and jackass.
Interesting.
You know, because jackass, I sat through some of that.
I was like, oh, God.
There was one thing I could not get through.
And that was with the sister on the back.
I actually fast-forwarded through that.
It was
the only one.
That was the one.
I was like, I'm done.
That's very curious.
Yeah.
If very, very, if you were to psychoanalyze.
I'm not going to because I don't have a degree, but very interesting.
One, I think it is just stemmed in humor of the gotcha effect.
The aha, you know, I think shocking off.
It's shocking off.
He likes to hold it.
That's what there is in that.
Because he likes to horrify his mommy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we're all the collective.
He likes upsetting people.
Yeah, he loves to upset people.
I don't know where it's upsetting, but I think there is that sadistic side.
That exists.
You know, to have fun with seeing people's reactions, and maybe that goes into the attention-seeking.
Yeah, I do like that.
I do like seeing people's reactions, and I do like seeing somebody get mortified, horrified, scared.
Yes.
Like, I like doing all those things to people.
So that might be that attention-seeking that you were wondering on.
Yeah.
You know, that it's
there's like the show Jackass is about the attention seeking.
Right.
Absolutely.
You know, I will tell you, in the beginning, I was like, damn, he could play a professional.
I was impressed.
I was like, the first scene, it was walking.
I was like, it's going to be a serious show.
And then he shit himself.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, thank you.
Yeah.
I almost paused sessions to finish it.
But I had to ask, what was going through your mind when you created that?
Yeah, well, I mean, the thing is, there's so many things
going through the
mind because a show like that, you develop over time.
And, you know, one of them, one of the stories might have come to me like, you know, 15 years ago, and you just have this nugget, and then you try to figure out how do I write like a short story about this little idea.
And then, also, so some of them are like very much my brain going, like, this is the story.
Some of them are honestly because there's a writer's room,
you throw out like a nugget of an idea, and then you have these comedy writers with you, and you guys come up with it.
Everybody's coming up with it.
Depending on on the actual individual story, I could tell you, like, oh, that comes from this, or that came from the room, or that's this thing that's been in my head for 15 years.
Like, it changes depending on the story.
What did you think when he had these ideas?
Well, I've been, like he said, I've been listening to a lot of these for about 20 years.
That's how long he and I have been together.
And so I've seen the nuggets, as he said, over the years.
They're reoccurring jokes in our world.
And then the other stuff, I was like, dude, does he just want to fuck everybody else but me?
Like, what is going on?
It was like,
every sketch, he's banging someone new.
Even the pilots.
Yeah, he's fucking, he's licking the assholes of old, the elderly.
No, they were licking my ass.
Yeah, I'm like, are we going to open this marriage up?
Are you Polly?
What's happening?
I'm Polly Annambai.
Maybe.
But I will say, to be able to do those scenes, it does show he has a high level of security about himself.
Oh, about himself, yeah.
Like, he's not insecure about who he is.
Oh, God, no.
This guy
loves himself.
I'm the one.
I think I'm a piece of shit.
He thinks he's the God's gift to the world.
But that's why I love him, too.
I'm attracted to it, but I'm attracted to it.
Do you think I'm God's gift to the world?
He's teaching me.
Do you understand?
Yeah.
I wanted that trait.
So that's why I was attracted to him.
He was so secure.
He gives you that counterbalance where he'll give you the compliments, but yet you probably try to deflect them and say, yeah, but.
Doesn't compliment me.
Liar.
This is a big lie.
This is huge manipulation.
Doesn't she look beautiful today?
Listen, this is
huge manipulation.
I know he does.
I'm just
and she 100% does what you said.
I just compliment her, deflect, goes, I'm uncomfortable.
What are we doing?
Just like leaves the room 100%.
100%.
Also, I'm deeply offended by, I think I'm God's gift to the world.
You do.
Compared to me, who I think I'm a piece of shit.
This is this is again what should be flagged on your chart.
She's an incredible manipulator.
Let me say something.
Like Starling.
Am I a manipulator?
No, I know you are.
I don't need her to tell me anything.
She's got the fucking shrink here.
It doesn't matter.
You guys are tied on manipulator.
But here's the thing.
She's more.
Come on, we're sharing traits.
You see that?
She's certainly more adept at it.
Oh, my God.
See, but hold on.
Why does he interpret my honesty as manipulation?
So the difference.
Excuse me.
No, no, excuse me.
I think I'm God's gift to the world.
You don't think that's I think compare.
I'm sorry, when I say that, I'm comparing it to relative to how I see myself.
So when it relative to my poor self-view, my self-esteem, and you didn't hear the other part to that, which was, I feel like you have the self-esteem, the security, the confidence that I wanted when I met you when we were 20-something.
And I emulate that.
I actually, it's such a good trait that I want that.
I'm just, I'm joking.
I'm half, I'm exaggerating because we're doing a show right now.
Yeah, but I find it deeply offensive.
And I think, I feel like you are just, you know, a disassociative, borderline, manipulative, narcissistic,
terrible person.
Won't let the fucking Dr.
Hope tell you if I am.
Well, we know that we already know that you lie.
I'm not a fucking borderline.
I know you're living.
I'm none of those things.
Nope.
And I don't fucking lie.
But she is close to elevated in psychoticism.
Yes.
She is elevated and schizotypal.
Woo!
She's just eccentric.
And then it goes into avoidant.
So
it's just, it's above average.
Well, here's the thing.
This is why we know she's lying.
Because she should be your 110% on avoidance.
You got, she scored above average and with OCD.
Bag time.
Above average, slightly with narcissism.
I'm a comic.
She is lowest with antisocial and antisocial with psychopathy.
She's
clinically
significant with anxiety.
Absolutely.
Elevated with attention seeking.
Sure, I'm a comic.
Clinically significant with eccentricity.
Yeah.
Restricted affectivity.
And I think that
it's
your expressions trying to express.
It's just like.
Restricted.
Like you're kind of like restricted.
Autism?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
It's a, let me find you.
I don't share feelings.
I don't feel exactly.
Yeah, I don't like them.
So, yeah, no, you're just, you hold stuff in.
Oh, big crammer.
That's why I had cancer.
I know I
cancerate my body because I can't feel feelings.
I don't like to feel them.
Yeah, that, well, after you're in the middle of your, you know, the thing with your mom?
Get the fuck out.
My mom's a borderline.
My dad's a drunk.
Good luck.
But that's an almost damage.
And that's why the disengaging, that's your protective.
You know, there's a room in my house where I go to disengage.
I have a goth room, and I sit there and I get weird alone, and I have to do it, otherwise I lose my mind.
And that's that elevated on withdrawal.
Yeah.
You know, and that's just that normal.
Yeah.
You know, that's your normalcy.
It is my
survival skill.
Yeah.
And that, that going into a room to hide is that.
that child emotion, that trauma part, saying, I'm going to take over.
But what happens is the prefrontal cortex, the adult brain disengages during that time, and that trauma part takes over.
Unless there is a healthy communication, they they do not function at the same time.
The child part engages
and this disengages.
And then, have you guys ever had it, or have you ever watched where you guys have a disagreement, and she's kind of going off the rails, being very reactive, but no, not, and she's trying to explain it, but it makes absolutely no sense.
And then suddenly,
she calms down, and then all of a sudden, she's like, I'm sorry, I don't know why I did that.
I don't know why I felt that way.
I do know.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Yes.
At the beginning, it was, I don't know why.
Now I've I've had enough therapy that I've analyzed the shit out of it.
And I can actually tell him now, hey,
I'm in an episode.
I need you to bring me back.
And he helps me.
She's like, she goes, slap the shit out of me.
And hit me as hard as you can in the face.
Peg me.
Yeah, he helps bring me back sometimes.
We peg all the time.
It answers a lot of things on bad thoughts, then.
So much anal play.
I'm telling you.
It's all assholes.
Now, go ahead.
What are you going to?
Wait, wait.
No, we just have to rap, Gene.
And then, oh, we have to rap when it's your turn.
No, we do.
Interesting.
And so we're at the end.
So
no pun intensive.
Thanks for coming in.
No, you shit turd.
I want to hear his fucked up part.
But real quick,
those are your trauma parts, kicking in and taking over those episodes.
Yes.
So I teach people to have their partner learn, hey, that's a child part.
Engage a child part because if you engage as an adult, you're going to disengage even more.
For sure.
Yeah, I agree.
So you can't be.
He can be rational.
You're not going to be rational.
It's not going to work, yeah.
He needs to feel with me.
He won't be able to feel with you.
And before I get to his,
when we think of this as trauma, or think of this as life, you know, life is a forest.
There's all these forests around the world.
Okay, so I don't mean to bore you, but this is one of my explanations.
There's all these forests around the world, and there's no two forests that are same, no same entry point.
You and I can be born at the same time with a tree between us, and our paths are still going to be different ahead of us.
The obstacles we have, we're going to navigate around.
When you look back, there's going to be all of these stones in your path, and those are the experiences you've had that have guided you on your path.
So no two paths can ever be compared.
We can't truly and honestly compare each other,
ourselves to each other because our paths are different.
So he'll never be able to understand or feel what you feel, but he can learn to empathize.
Right.
And engage at your level.
That's what I'm saying.
Oh, yeah, not over.
No, I think that is like the
kind of what happened.
Yeah.
Right.
To him.
Okay, so he is high in disinhibition, distractibility, impulsivity.
Yeah.
He's high in withdrawal.
He's high in eccentricity.
Check.
So
he
was higher
in antisocial.
He was above average in antisocial.
Antisocial with psychopathy and borderline.
The three she was lowest in.
So here's yours.
Let me tell you something else.
And here's hers.
But let me tell you something.
I'm fucking crazier than you.
Let me tell you something.
She fucking deserves it.
Because your schizotypal.
She fucking deserves it.
Just because your schizotippal and avoidant are higher on the above average.
His are slightly above.
But he's a fucking borderline, a male borderline.
Oh, I knew it.
I fucking knew I married available.
Everybody I'll have a copy of theirs.
I married a fucking borderline.
What else?
What else?
Borderline and what else?
Antisocial and antisocial psychopathy.
So it's just, which was had the highest elevation was the schizotippal.
And I beat him only because of the schizophrenia.
If you look at the alarming, you're alarming.
You're clinically alarming.
The ones that are above average.
I'm nowhere near.
You had a higher measure.
Like, I'm nowhere near you on any of them.
Yeah, but I.
No, you're not.
It's just funny.
It's just funny you guys debated as who was antisocial.
Oh, this guy right here.
These are her three that are the lowest and yours that are the highest.
By the way, my mother was a borderline.
I've always been been very afraid of being borderline.
I'm happy to see that my number is very low because I've worked very hard to not carry those traits because I'm not going to be able to do that.
Way
below you on narcissism.
Way below you.
So I guess you don't think you're God's gift.
No, I don't.
But maybe you project that and I would like to learn to project that more.
No, but the thing is, I think you're projecting your narcissism on me.
Is that right?
Am I?
Maybe?
I think maybe with time, you've also gotten more confident in some ways.
You probably started to think better about yourself before.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, which means that that's going to be elevated a little bit.
Oh, look, you're a real piece of shit here.
OCD?
I'm bat shit.
Oh, avoidant.
See, I thought he was way more avoidant than me because he tends to go into his cave and ignore me and the family.
Look at this POSI.
Always checking out on the phone, you know.
Well, who's a piece of shit?
Where?
Right here, man.
What's that one again?
I'm Schizo.
What's again the Schizo tip type tip?
The Schizo tips.
Just like a weird.
You're weird.
You're essentially.
I love it.
I love it.
Yes.
Just like Bill Murray on Caddyshack.
Just odd.
I'm way crazier than that.
And you're there.
You got no antisocial.
Wait, I'm curious.
I'm curious.
This schizotypal thing.
I feel like we've all
scores on it.
Yeah.
But you'll have people that it really impacts their life.
Like, you know, where I live,
there's a young lady.
I like to shop at the dollar store because it's the best.
You feel like you're in the middle of it.
So many good snacks in there.
Yes.
So I like it.
And there's this young girl, young lady that comes in.
I don't know what she's dressed as.
It's a mix between hoarding and furry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Super weird.
She wears like big plastic.
You had a great, didn't you say Doc from Back to the Future?
Yeah, I like that.
Yeah, he's Schizotippo, so like that.
Super eccentric person.
Yes.
So she has that, and then her car has not just stickers, but toys glued all over it.
But you would be schizotypus.
I'm not antisocial, and I, because I like
nice to people.
And I don't have antisocial with psychopathy.
My husband scores very high.
Not very high.
Very average.
Very high.
Very average.
Slightly above average.
Antisocial.
I can't believe we're this healthy.
But you guys are.
You guys were in the tops of being healthy.
That's fucking wild but i see that they don't have chris who is chris larson on this because he's a complete he would be number four on crazy of healthy on healthy
so he's higher on he's highest he's elevated on detachment and that makes sense and he's highest he's old he's elevated almost clinically significant in ocd nice he's a good editor and he's high in avoidant yeah yeah all those guys are everything else is pretty low they stay in the bay he's kicked a dog let's
Ryan is number...
Hang on.
He was number four.
Ryan
is
number five.
He's healthy.
Healthy.
Highest
elevated in antagonism.
He's deceitful, grandiosity, and manipulative.
Look at any.
And he is
on the edge, literally on the edge with antisocial with psychopathy and OCD.
Wow.
Yeah, his numbers are high.
That's fucking high, man.
Is he healthy?
He's also, I'd like to point out, a thief.
So there's that too.
We just learned that this week.
Did he steal your food?
No,
he stole Tanner's gift.
It was a gift.
It was a gift.
Yeah.
He stole it.
That's not nice.
No, it was not.
That kind of goes, well, maybe that's what the OCD is.
It was an honest mistake.
Let's call it what it was.
It was an honest mistake, right?
He stole it.
Okay.
It was an honest mistake.
And he was six, and Chris.
All right, where you gotta go.
Chris was, or I'm sorry, Carly was seven.
Clinically significant with negative affectivity and
highly above average with borderline narcissism and OCD.
Nice.
Love Carl.
We're all winners.
Carly's great.
We're all winners.
Okay.
I got these.
We got her.
I can take them.
Yes, thank you so much.
Doctor so much.
This is amazing.
Thank you for coming in.
This is so fun.
Thank you for
giving us your time and giving us this insight.
We know we have some work to do.
We have a few people that we are rushing into therapy sessions.
And I will,
if he's open to it, I will pay for Tanner to see you if he's open to it.
Yeah, he needs help.
Let's get you.
Let's get Tanner.
And if anybody does, you know, I just, I work from home.
Go on the two.
I have my own practice, and I just, I see everybody virtually.
So I like everybody to have control of their environment versus taking them into an environment they're not comfortable in.
This was really great.
Thank you for that.
And just as the last thing we know, she's a fucking liar.
Thank you guys for watching, and we'll see you next week.
I think you would all be like, this is one sick, twisted, deviant deviant person.
The screening is like, it makes me like,
I'm clearly schizophrenic and dangerously psychotic.
Complete lack of emotion.
Thank you, I have what's called empathy.
Why do you have that?
I think it's a red flag.
He's a psych.
Clearly, schizophrenic and dangerously psychotic.
Complete lack of emotion.
Thank you, I have what's called empathy.
Why do you have that?
I think it's a red flag.
He's a psych.
Kills that hooker.
Kills that hooker.
Kills that hooker.
Chills that hooker.
Kills that hooker.
Kills that hooker.
Chills that hooker.
Kills that hooker.
Kills that hooker.
Thanks to the cure cereal killer.
I'll kill us both, I swear to God I will.
Now you're in an awkward conversation with a cereal killer.
The screaming is like just it makes me laugh.
The screaming is like just it makes me laugh.
The screaming is like just it makes me laugh.
You're about to get murdered.
The screaming is like just it makes me laugh.
The screaming is like physical.
It makes me laugh.
The screaming is like physical.
It makes me laugh.
Bro, just look at the psycho-looking face.
The screaming is like physical.
It makes me laugh.
The screaming is like physical.
Do you know what kind of a psychopath I look like?
The screaming is like physical.
It makes me laugh.
The screaming is like it makes me laugh.
Screaming is like it makes me laugh.
I I hate who I'm becoming socially dude.
I'm just saying, Jesus, I've never considered that.
There's no psychological training.
You need to pick that up.
Everything is psycho.
Am I out of my mind?
That's right.
Am I crazy?
Remember my face?
You know when you just get like real rage?
And then I fucking kill the guy.
What'd you do as a kid?
Were you twisting rabbits next?
Would you do as a kid?
Were you twisting rabbits next?
Would you do as a kid?
Were you twisting rabbits next?
I think you're a fucking shrink right now.
Don't go there when you're talking to a sick person.
I'll really piss him off and then he'll let it cut me out.
And I know that you suspect that my husband is a psycho.
He's a functioning psychopath.
Pick someone I go follow him.
Get to know their habits when I go to work.
Evil exists.
Something's really wrong with me.
Verbal tick.
Something's really wrong with me.
Verbal tick.
Something's really wrong with me.
Verbal tick.
Something's really wrong with me.
Verbal tick.
Suck hang!
Stop, champ.
Bye!
I'm an idiot, boy!
I like how hard!
It makes me laugh.
The screaming is like just it makes me laugh.
Screaming is like just it makes me laugh.
You're about to get murdered.
The screaming is like just it makes me laugh.
Screaming is like just it makes me laugh.
The screaming is like just it makes me laugh.
No, just look at the psycho look on your face.
The screaming is like just it makes me laugh.
The screaming is like just it makes me laugh.
The screaming is like just it makes me laugh.
Do you know what kind of a psychopath I look like?
Screaming is like this, it makes me laugh.
The screaming is like this, it makes me laugh.
Screaming is like it makes me laugh.
This is the next program!
me.