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I mean, I really did first see you sitting at the stupa outside the cat club.

That is the first time I saw you.

And I really.

You remember.

You do remember that story.

Oh, yeah.

Of course I remember that.

Yeah.

You always say I look like a hooker, but I didn't really look like a hooker.

It's not that you look like one.

It's that I thought you were one.

You had on fishnets, knee-high boots, you were smoking a cigarette.

You were kind of like, I've been out here, I've been working.

What's going on?

I did not say that, yeah.

Okay, so then, so then you go, but you knew that I was dating a guy.

No, I didn't know right away, obviously.

Um, you know, I was trying to like, I was like, She's cute, playing it cool, yeah, right.

And then

I'll talk to you for a second, I was like, Let me holler at you for a second, and then,

yeah, I just remember, I probably didn't figure.

I mean, I can't remember exactly, I didn't find out that night, but it's one of those things where, you know,

after we met through the grapevine, kind of either heard it through the grapevine or go you go to um

i don't know do spots and you're like oh what's going on with her and then somebody mentioned and i always had that thing too where it's like somebody's seeing someone you're just like okay like you know

done yeah you just accept so it actually probably

made us um

more like just co-workers right like yes yeah it forced you to get to see me as a person, not just blonde hair and tits a little bit.

Right.

And I always feel like that's so, like, I hate

honestly seeing women as people

because I've never really thought of them that way.

Well, they're kind of stupid, right?

Yeah.

And also, it's like, you know,

you guys were kind of made for one thing and one thing only, I feel like.

I think it's pretty obvious.

I think three cooking, cleaning.

Those are, I'm not really one of those guys that's like, you got to clean for, you got, like, I don't.

I know.

It's nice that that you do, but like, it's, it's really just be a jizz receptacle, you know?

That's your number one priority.

I do, though, I do know this about you.

Yeah.

Coming and eating are your priorities.

Yeah.

And I'll figure out the eating on my own.

So

the

main thing is, you know, what's that tit stitch like and what that mouth do?

So

well, I did, when I met you, I had the best pair of tits.

I had such good tits because I wasn't like fat.

I didn't have kids.

They were so good when we met.

You got my tits at prime titty time.

It's prime time tits for sure.

And then, and then kids, cancer.

But guess what?

In August, I'm going to have my deep flap.

They're going to reconstruct my tits out of my belly fat.

I'm going to have a tummy tuck and new tits.

You can choose.

We can sit down and choose the tits of our dreams.

I'm dreaming about when I go to sleep at night.

These new tits.

Stupid.

Not what I am.

So fuck it stupid, huh?

Yeah, you know, oh, I guess I should probably.

There's people watching who don't know who are like, what the fuck is going on with this guy's face?

They get so upset.

They get so

bummed out when you're shaved.

I know.

Like, I was looking at a picture I posted of us on Instagram, and they're just all the comments are like, Tom's face.

It's offensive.

I know.

It's honestly offensive.

It's so hurtful.

Yeah.

It's like so hurtful.

Come on.

It's not that bad.

So, what happened was we did

a live show, YMH Live 10.

At this point,

it's two weeks ago.

So if you, you know, you saw last week's show, that was actually before we recorded.

So it's been two weeks.

Yeah.

It was, and I don't think I'm exaggerating, not only the most fun for us, but I think clearly the best live show we've ever done.

Hands down the best.

It was fucking awesome.

Everything went so perfectly.

The comedy, the sketches were bangers.

Dan Soder, perfect guest.

Couldn't have been better.

You, by the way, were the ball, the bell of the ball.

Yes.

We all know Tom was Robert Smith of the Cure, and I could not take my eyes off of you.

If you're not aware of what happened, if you're like, what is this?

Yeah.

It's that

I committed to the idea of being your fantasy.

It was amazing.

On the live show,

Tom is Robert Smith of the Cure.

God, you look so good.

That's why I was staring at him.

Look how happy I am.

I loved it.

You know what the best part is, we were getting ready for the show and you were talking to the team.

And I was like, oh my God, Robert Smith's here.

Like, I loved it.

He looked so good.

Look how bummed out you are, too.

It's so good.

I was trying to be his, you know,

depressed, regular kind of.

Oh, my God, Robert Smith.

Are you so happy to be inducted in the Hall of Fame?

Not as excited as you, apparently.

So good.

He said later that he felt bad about that.

Did he?

Yeah, he said that he didn't realize he was being video recorded.

So he was just kind of like doing, and he was like, he felt bad that

it was like seen as really shitty to her.

Yeah.

Yeah, he felt bad.

Yeah, I think he's a decent dude.

I've never heard anything bad about Robert Smith.

Yeah.

Never.

He just likes being a musician.

They have a good band.

I don't know anything about him.

I do.

I know a lot.

He's been married to the same woman, Mary Poole, since they were like 20-something years old.

They live in Sussex, or he's from Sussex.

Oh, there we are.

Tommy scissor hands.

Look at me.

I love it.

Yeah, well, we'll get into all this.

It really was the, it was the best, dude.

We've done 10 YMH lives, which is also a huge accomplishment.

Yeah.

You know?

It really is.

But it had been a while and really wanted to do another one because it's just so much fun.

This one had

like everything at a 10.

And that's why, and I think for me, primarily the thing that makes it, you go, this was so great, it's that the

pre-recorded bits were such bangers.

Like

they really were.

Charo with Alexis Fox on doing an introducing the OnlyFans was amazing.

Charo had no idea that the things that were there were the things that they were.

And then I just can't say enough about it.

The Tony Johns dating

bachelor kind of show that we did, unbelievable.

Well, you guys don't even realize how crazy that was filming it with him.

I wish we could show

the hours of footage of him being a lunatic.

And then don't forget, live on the show, Alexis Fox.

I know.

It's crazy.

That was magical.

That was a magical moment.

I mean, I feel like that's what like...

took it over the top.

That's fucking insane.

If that had not happened, I still think it was like just amazing.

Incredible, but that took it to a whole other level that Alexis was watching, heard us talking to Tony Johns about his desire to enter the adult industry, and then she was like, yeah,

she was like, I'll do it.

It was just insane.

Magical.

And I broke my sobriety.

I haven't had alcohol in 90 days.

I had to drink during the heavy segment.

That's how good that segment was.

Oh, look at them.

She loves Alexis.

Oh, yeah.

Who doesn't, though?

She's so sweet.

Oh, my God.

The Whistler.

Ralph the Whistler.

He had multiple whistling bits, and then his off-mic stuff talking about storming the Capitol and there's nowhere to piss and just like crazy conspiracy shit.

It was unbelievable, dude.

Yeah.

And then, of course, his whistling is just

that there's nobody better.

And then we played our short film for her

that people

really responded to.

It was a touching tribute to my father.

Yep, and then

Daniel Pineda

was in that.

Ryan Sickler was in that.

Yeah, there she is.

There she is.

Gosh, she's so thoroughly talented.

It's upsetting.

When you make, so I've made multiple shorts.

When you get real actors, like serious actors in something,

it actually makes you realize, like, oh, this is why

in features, like when you go, like, why are movie stars like paid so much?

They elevate the thing so much.

Like, our silly little idea just takes on a whole new thing when you have a really good actor in it.

Well, she's got to say some absurd lines

and deliver them sincerely.

It's very hard.

So, it's a fine line she has to walk to make it believable and funny and everything.

It's really no, she can do it all.

She's amazing.

She's coming.

She has a big movie coming out, I think, next month or this month.

It's amazing.

Yeah.

It was just bangers, dude.

The accountant, too yeah she's gonna be in the accountant too just bangers this this ymh like you and i were were buzzing for days after we recorded ymh live yeah i couldn't sleep that night i was so jazzed about how it all went yeah it was oh my god and his soda was like perfect will blunderfield did his thing duncan trussell

our own tanner and the tanner

so good

There's Duncan and Tanner pissing together in a cup.

God damn it.

Yeah, the Will Blunderfield thing was amazing.

Everything.

Oh, there we are.

Not really watching that.

Yeah, Dan was.

Dan, it got to him.

He was like, I'm fine.

This is good.

And then he was like, oh, God.

We'll get to that.

We'll get to those in a second.

Why don't we open the show and then we'll get to our favorite so much to talk about clips from that?

Okay.

He

goes.

We were in bed

and

I guess you know, I just be honest with you, I buried my face in her vagina.

Okay.

She didn't shave and that's what I wanted.

And I basically

sucked this woman's pussy for an hour and a half.

An hour and a half.

Okay.

And I loved every fucking minute of it.

Yeah.

And her but I mean, just I didn't let nothing go.

Yeah.

Of course she did the same to me, and of course, I had a hard time getting hard.

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

You know that

Rogan texts me almost every day.

Yeah.

And there's no words.

It's always just somebody dying.

That's the best.

That's real friendship.

I know.

We don't like real, like sometimes we have back and forth

words.

Yeah.

But 95% of the time, it's links.

I know.

He and I have the same relationship.

We send each other TikToks and various clips.

Let's see what today's is.

Let's kind of see.

Can I tell you something?

That's how I knew that Joe was thinking of me when I was sick.

He would send me like all these cancer memes.

It was really like cancer articles and stuff.

He's very thoughtful.

He's very sweet.

And then he send me funny shit.

It's really like,

you know, transitioning people.

It is the mark of a friendship.

It is.

Yeah.

It is.

He and I, we send each other,

yeah, ridiculous shit.

It's usually just somebody dying.

Not with me.

Nobody sends me death.

I'm into like the gender people

you know like pronoun people being ridiculous that's that's our jam our videos are usually either a street fight that ends up with head trauma um shootings stabbings war videos trains hitting cars people yeah um that's cool yeah explosions that's cool

Yeah, a lot of stuff like that.

It's pretty

real friendship.

Real friendship.

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Why does this man say he's like, of course I couldn't get hard.

And it cuts off.

That's it.

I was like, oh, there's got to be, there's obviously more to this video.

Explain yourself, sir.

Why, of course?

He seemed pretty jazzed.

Was he hard for an hour and a half?

Sucked this woman's pussy for an hour and a half.

Was he hard for too long, maybe?

And I loved every fucking minute of it.

There's more to this video.

No.

Yeah.

Do we know where it is?

Let me see if I can pull up the original.

Okay.

By the way, see how he decorates his apartment?

This is how I decorated our first house.

Yeah, of course.

This is how everyone's apartment looks when you're like out of college, except he's, you know, 67.

It's crazy.

He's just got work shit and mail on a desk.

This is how I decorate that.

A couple boxes.

Yeah, though, this is...

I think strums a guitar.

That's pretty cool.

Yeah.

You should put something up there.

Something up there.

You need to artwork.

It really helps the vibe.

Okay, so here's.

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This was the favorite thing

that I always have said I love about the live show

is getting...

My favorite thing about the heavy segment is not the heavy segment.

It's watching people watch the heavy segment.

So, whenever we play the heavy segment, we get these videos that get sent in of reactions of people who are doing like watch parties and stuff.

I've never done a YMH live before, and I've only heard the lore of the heavy segment.

I'm excited to finally see it because I don't think

I don't think it's gonna get me.

Oh, no, please, please, no!

That was the worst one.

That was bad.

Oh my god, a thing of a peso.

That was gnarling.

That was a guy's ankle literally snapping off of his leg.

Like, it just completely snapped right off.

Skin and everything.

That was insanity.

Which was actually, it wasn't even in our heavy bank of clips.

It was in our other clip bank.

That was like a sorbet?

Yeah, it was supposed to cleanse the palate.

Genitalism.

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

Makeout.

Oh my god.

I can't.

That's the best.

I love this stuff, man.

Yeah.

I love people with pillows and blankets over their eyes.

I'm this guy.

I wasn't done.

You're listening.

Why are you you fucking done?

I love it, dude.

I love it.

Look at her face.

Poop, poop, it's poop.

It's poop.

She's eating the poop.

Yeah, it's so naughty.

Dad is like, what?

What is it?

Oh, it's so bad.

And then, even here

in the office, the live show was streaming into the conference room, which had like 20 people in it.

And

Alan was like, I have to watch it.

He told him he had to watch it.

That's Alan in ad sales.

Ryan's got his hoodie over his eyes.

Chris Lawrence.

Everybody was just mortified.

But that's the fun.

I mean, how do you not have fun with that?

Aren't you enjoying watching that?

That's the best part.

Yeah, I mean, look, the reason we do these live shows is because we can't play the good stuff on YouTube.

They flag everything.

And it's also to bring people together, bring communities together.

How does that not make you want to have a watch party where you set up a camera and record your friends?

It's the most fun.

So anyway,

huge thanks to all of you and also to the YMH staff, the crew for making that.

You guys did an amazing job, each and every one of you.

Thanks, Mang.

Yeah, really.

Truly, amazing work, kids.

it was so good and shout out to connor galvin too heavy clips were outside who worked with us writing stuff oh yeah um what a great time oh so babe the clip is getting laid for the first time in almost 30 years oh that's why

and that's why he was

okay now it makes sense now it makes sense why he was shit because i was like why are you uploading this bro getting laid for the first time

okay

but jonna

She didn't shave, and that's what I wanted.

And I basically

sucked this woman's pussy for an hour and a half.

It was 30 years.

Yeah, an hour and a half.

He felt the need to document it.

And I loved every fucking minute of it.

Sure, man.

Congratulations.

But I mean, just I didn't let nothing go.

Yeah, we got it.

Of course, she did the same to me.

Yeah.

And of course, I had a hard time getting hard.

And she didn't, she understood, but I made up for it orally.

Jesus.

So I'm in this bed with this attractive woman, clean, don't have have a scar on her, don't smoke.

And she, you know, it was just enjoyable.

She was there to serve me.

She came there, she said, I want to do everything that you want me to do.

She said, I want everything.

I want to do everything.

And she did anything that you can think of.

Every sex act imaginable.

Can't believe.

I think about it.

Reming.

Every fantasy I'd ever seen on porn.

And she loved every bit of it.

And she basically orgasmed, I don't know how many times on on my face.

Sure.

Tight.

I can't believe I'm telling this video.

This is what happened to me on December the 30th.

Let me check my calendar again.

Day before noon?

December the 30th, which was just five days ago, five nights ago.

Oh, it's fresh in his mind.

So straight-faced, though.

No joy.

We went at it for an hour and a half.

Couldn't have intercourse because of my problem, red-talk problem.

But she was satisfied.

I was satisfied.

I mean,

we laid in bed for a few minutes, and then she went to the restroom and came back.

She started putting her clothes on, so I just knew she was ready to go.

I mean, she had driven, even though I drove the greater distance, I drove 85 miles, but she still says she had to drive an hour, which I don't understand because Alpharetta was supposed to only be 30 miles away.

But she came an hour.

Can you imagine a woman, a 54-year-old woman, driving an hour to see me in a motel, to suck my you-know-what and let me eat her pussy for an hour and a half.

You already broke the you-know-what barrier.

I loved every minute of it.

And

I was just as horny when she left as before she came.

I didn't care

that I was horny.

I mean, in fact, I had met a woman, it satisfied me.

I can't, I gotta say, I like that he,

the title of this, getting laid for the first time in almost 10 years, thoughts on Alan Roger Curry restarting my channel.

So this is what motivated him to, I guess, get a channel up and going again.

Well, he's got 701 subscribers.

That's nothing to sneeze at.

They're all eager to know.

Love left me forever.

Oh, a vay.

Oh, shit.

Quitting the postal service.

Oh, my God.

But this still is more entertaining than anything on.

Oh, that was awesome.

I mean, that was an amazing police wellness check.

I like this.

Oh, fuck.

Fascinating.

Clean anger.

What the fuck is going on with this channel?

Can we please do a dive on this guy at some point?

Yeah, please let him go.

Make that somebody's mission.

This could be the next cool guy on the video.

It could be.

It was very cool.

I mean, the video itself

was vintage cool.

It was very cool.

He shares this.

I mean, I can't.

You know what else is cool that I haven't had the chance to share on this show?

I saw this a while ago.

I had never seen this clip.

Well,

they said I had to take a steamer.

Hulk Hogan

is taking a shit.

So I just unleashed a major toxic.

Fuck yeah.

Go for it, Hogan.

I think the paint's starting to come off the walls.

I don't know the story behind that.

I don't know, but I like it.

It's very cool.

I'm kind of watching shit.

Taking a steamer.

That's cool.

Yeah, we don't have much info on it.

Well, you don't need much.

I feel like...

I think we get it.

I get it.

Yeah.

It's just most people, you know, sort of like the last guy.

You don't have to upload this, right?

You can just take your heater, but

you can make choices and keep stuff private.

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Tom, I'd like to share something very important to me.

And look, there's a few highlights in my career, I would say.

Yes.

Yes, getting on Netflix is pretty exciting as a stand-up comedian.

Working on various television shows.

I think the highlight of my career so far has been getting in the National Inquirer

for the Garth Brook stuff.

And I just want to shout out Daily Mail, UK.

You guys know I'm a huge Anglophile.

Put out a post about

a TikTok I did on Megan Markle's new show.

Is that in here?

Do I have that or you have it?

I am so excited.

Netflix comedian Christina Bojitski gives a scathing review of Megan Markle's new cookery show, telling fans she's no Martha fucking Stewart.

You better believe it.

Oh, they're posting.

I'm watching the new Megan Markle.

Wow.

You know, I'm sorry.

Megan's Sussex cooking show, craft show.

I don't know what the

show is.

Thanks on that.

It's perfect red.

It's inauthentic.

It's not

fun.

Is that a reason to hate it?

No.

No, it's not.

I think I don't like that she's just, she's,

here's what it is.

When Martha Stewart came out with her,

you know, homekeeping type shows back in the, what was it, the 90s or the 80s or whatever, I remember women being like, yeah, right.

Like, who's at home making their own beeswax candles?

Yeah, right.

Who's making their own croutons from scratch?

Well, you know who was?

Martha Stewart.

Martha Stewart was, because that's who she was.

That's who she is.

She was doing all this crafty stuff even when the cameras weren't rolling.

That's a good point.

And that is probably one of the main criticisms of Megan is that people find it to be inauthentic.

I'll tell you something though.

Can you scroll down?

Oh, it's fantastic.

Oh, yeah.

You got a whole

they wrote such a complimentary article.

And by the way, I'm so thrilled to be in the UK news because let me tell you,

you know my love of the royal family.

Yeah.

Authentic.

It's authentic.

I read books about these people.

I'm interested.

I'm not a British citizen, so I don't have the same relationship the Brits do to their monarchy.

But I'm fascinated by their system that's existed for hundreds and hundreds of years.

And I've read books about Megan Markle, had a lot of time when I had breast cancer.

Yeah, let me tell you something about her.

Yeah, can I tell you?

Please, I've read books that are pro-Megan and books that are pro-monarchy.

Here's what I've deduced about her because I don't go after people lightly, I really don't.

I do it for a reason.

This Megan Markle

is beautiful, stylish,

manipulative.

She's a fame-seeking, money-seeking succubus, right?

And here's the problem, which is fine, by the way, because Hollywood is full of succubus.

The problem is, is there's no talent.

Yeah,

that'll catch up.

You need to do, there needs to be an exchange.

And what she used was the royal family.

She tried to take down an establishment that's long revered, long existing.

And it's not cool.

Now,

you could say that in America, there's talentless fucks like the Kardashians, right?

You know what they give?

Tits, ass.

They give us a reality show where they show us their bad relationships and their dad who became a woman and all that stuff.

That's still entertaining.

She's pretending to be perfect and using the Sussex name.

Now,

Harry H, she calls him H, not Harry, H, is not without fault too, because he wants out of that goddamn family, right?

Right.

So he did

the chicken shit move.

Instead of saying to daddy and Granny, I don't want to be in the family, he married a bitch, and then she takes the fall for this.

You understand?

Yes.

But she is a big phony.

She just wants fame and money and celebrity, but she doesn't want to do anything for it.

That's the problem.

That's the problem.

I don't think this is going to help you get invited to Buckingham Palace.

Hey, I'm Team Middleton.

Team Middleton.

All day long.

They get the rules.

She knew the rules going into this family.

Give me a break.

She pretends like, oh, I didn't know.

Yes, you did, bitch.

So Kate and William, right?

Yeah.

They are, they're there.

They're the ones that are going to

good graces, obviously.

They're the royal couple now.

Yes.

Because aren't Harry and Megan not even considered royals?

So here's the deal, man.

So here's what happened.

They went to the queen when the queen was alive and said, we kind of want to do like a halfway royal thing.

You know, maybe we do some duties, but not all.

But that doesn't, that's not how they work, the royals.

Either you're in, you're a working royal, or you're out.

The reason being,

the taxpayers fund this stuff.

Okay.

So there's no, you can't do your side businesses and make money and be a working royal because working royals do good for the public.

Their whole thing is like showing up at a hospital.

So what happened is the queen basically was like, no, this is not how this works.

You're either in or out.

What are you going to do?

We're out.

Okay.

See you later.

So they pull their security because they're not working royals.

Why should the taxpayers fund their security?

He's got enough money from Princess Diana's trust.

He can pay for his own security.

And then Megan, this is totally shameless.

This is why I don't like her too.

Just from a human level, you're in this new family.

You don't like your in-laws.

Okay, fine.

Don't go on Oprah Winfrey and say, oh, my in-laws are racist.

They're bad people.

Everybody hates me.

And do the sobbing story.

You understand?

She put them on blast

to make herself a name.

It's disgusting.

And I think it's really gross.

Well, I don't think it worked either.

Most people don't feel like they like her more.

No sympathy for her because she was claiming racism when she was all the tabloids are racist.

It's like, I don't see that.

The queen wanted her, they even fast-tracked her getting married in Westminster Abbey because they liked her.

Revoke the security, they revoke titles too, aren't they?

So that's the thing.

So I think I'm not sure about the title business because I thought they would.

Can you see that?

Can you look?

So she says, She's talking to Mindy Kaling.

And she goes, I'm Megan Sussex.

You know, I'm Megan Sussex.

So she gets to keep the title, I'm guessing.

But you can't say you're a Sussex and carry title while you're not a working royal.

It's like, dude.

So it says the royal, I don't know when this was

go up.

When is this?

Royal family prepared to sanction removal of Prince Harry and Megan Sussex titles amid new bombshells.

When is this printed?

This was last week.

Okay.

Yeah, I know.

So the Duke and Duchess of Sussex have pivoted away from publicity, speaking about the royal family, for over the last year.

The royal family are prepared to sanction the removal of Prince Harry and Megan's Sussex titles if the couple release further damaging bombshell claims about the monarchy, according to a royal source.

The Duchess of Sussex hit out at

the firm in a 2021 interview with Oprah Ruinfrey.

That's the one you just, after she stepped down as a working royal.

In January of 23, Prince Harry released his autobiography titled Spare, which I I read, which provided intimate details about his relationship and arguments with senior members of the royal family.

It would take an act of parliament to take away the couple's Sussex title.

But according to the mail, a royal source has said it is still considered a potential sanction that could be explored if any further bombshell interviews or books are released.

So they still have their title.

So here's the deal, but here's a real fun part about all this.

Okay, so she's on this stupid show.

She's pretending to be a Martha Stewart, right?

Yeah.

She's like, I'm harvesting my beeswax.

Even though she doesn't give a fuck about the bees, bees, there's a beekeeper that comes and does all the work.

She's like, my best friend, who's her makeup artist, that she's

been on payroll for a million years, is coming over.

I'm going to make him some bath salts and put them in.

Like, first of all, who the fuck is taking a bath when you're a guest at somebody's house?

It's so fucking gross.

Anyway, what was I going to say?

I'm so fired up about

this.

Jesus.

Oh, the point of the story is.

I've read numerous accounts of her, and it says that she is not a good employer, that she's very nasty, very mean.

And And do you know that the people who work in the palace in Buckingham, they basically do it as volunteers.

You don't get paid anything to work for the royal family.

You do it.

Nobody does?

Not really.

Like, I think they get a tiny amount of money, but what they do get is, I don't know, tiaras or hand-me-down stuff.

Very cold and withholding to staffers, created a really awful workplace.

People have quit working for us.

Do you guys feel the same way about us?

No.

No, never.

Of course not.

Never.

Can I tell you the show I'd want to watch?

How she can fix this?

Annie, you're our Megan.

How do you feel?

You said I'm your Megan.

Is that what you said?

That's fucking crazy.

I fucking missed that.

I'm your Megan.

Do you feel like this is a cold and we're withholding?

I'm not going to lie.

This entire topic is super white people shit.

I'm not following whatsoever.

Okay, no.

Can I tell you what the show is?

Please, I'm fired up.

Can I tell you what the show is?

Yes.

She's a bitch.

This is the problem with Megan Markle.

She's not a nice girl.

She's a bitch.

i want to see the show where she's yelling at her gardener for trimming the hedges incorrectly i want to see the show where she's talking shit with her fake ass friends in montecedo about whatever i want to see the show where she's crying it in harry's lap like why do they hate me the press everybody hates me you know that's the that's the meghan markle i want to see this is like i know

she's this is like it's bullshit why people sometimes just hate somebody that marries into a family it's like she she then But then doesn't take the responsibilities of said family.

I know, but

brings with them the entitlement of somebody

that you would think would have to be born into the family.

You know what I mean?

Like, you just joined it, and then you're out of the way.

And you're shitting on an establishment that's existed for hundreds of years, and you're not even English.

You're not British.

Don't forget, we, I mean,

I don't think it's going to happen anymore because of how outspoken you are, but we did have an agreement that if we were to meet the Royals,

obviously I don't think we're going to meet Megan and Harry.

But

if we met William and Kate,

that I, we have an agreement that if I am introduced to Prince William,

that I would tip my hat and go, hello, Governor.

Yes.

And then this is where hello, Governor, came from a year ago.

We were in London, and I said, one day you're going to meet William and Kate.

We're going to be invited.

Maybe he's a comedy fan.

And you have to say it.

You have to do that.

Look, I think they know.

She's a rock.

She's a rock.

I'm Team Middleton.

I'm Team William and Kate.

Thank you.

They seem like nice.

They are nice.

You know why?

Can I tell you what I respect about them?

And the queen?

They respected the post.

They respected the title.

They respected the job of what they have to do.

It's not an easy job to uphold these values.

He's got an old man spirit, too, because he embraces the horseshoe bald look, which is really crazy.

That's usually men that are honestly boomers.

You know, like a much older man goes, I'll rock the horseshoe.

So for him him to do it, he's like 40 something.

So, so hold, here's the deal, man, is that there's hairdos they're allowed to have.

So this might be in the royal protocol or whatever.

That's insane.

There's certain haircuts.

No, it's true.

You can't have certain hair dos.

You can't

slip the sides.

He may not be able to.

Because I don't think there's ever been like a bald.

I don't know.

I know that there's limitations on that.

on the women, like what kind of hairstyles they can have and such.

You don't see this.

It's not an easy gig.

You don't see this with men like R.

H.

The horseshit.

You don't.

It's really like the previous generation.

Traditionally, within the British royal family, the prince is expected to maintain a neat, short haircut, typically considered military style, with minimal styling and is generally expected to be clean-shaven, meaning no beard or mustache.

Although there have been exceptions, like Prince Harry, I'm sorry, H.

Ich.

The douches of sucks.

She sucks.

Hello.

Ich.

She's the worst.

All right.

Such a phony.

I can't take it.

Like, it hurts to watch her stupid fucking joke.

Pretty cool.

I just had to say my piece.

You got it out there.

You got it out there.

Look how cute William was.

Yeah.

Oh, see, that's what he looked like, bald.

Looks good.

He looks handsome.

He looks better.

He's got a great face.

Yeah.

Handsome.

Growing out this size is fucking insane.

You know, there's a rumor that Prince Harry is actually the son of someone that Diana had an affair with.

And if you look at the pictures, you're like, yeah, that's fucking a whole different.

He definitely doesn't look like his brother.

Not a lick.

Doesn't look at all.

I mean, that's Charles and Diana, but you look at the other boy, Harry,

I mean, look at that.

Yeah, yeah.

That's the dude.

Look at him.

And he's got the polo helmet on or whatever.

I like that this is Prince Harry was fathered.

Like, it just says it like it's a statement.

I know.

Yeah.

They vehemently deny that claim.

Of course.

Like, obviously, but come on.

Of course.

It's possible.

Anything's possible.

Well, I'm glad we got that out of the way.

You can take this down.

You know, I just

care anything for these.

There's so many people.

We did.

We just gave it like fucking 20 minutes.

What are you talking about?

Jesus.

I'm very passionate about this.

I mean, your passion is felt.

Everybody gets it now.

I'm very invested.

Okay.

We got it.

I just wish you shared my interest.

I definitely do.

Don't feel ashamed.

Don't Don't feel ashamed.

Here, let's get it.

It's what I care about.

You care about sports and calm.

This is my sports and come.

Jesus.

That's so fucking offensive.

It's not what I care about.

It's really real.

I'm always the only woman caring about girl shit.

Okay.

Here we go.

All right.

I finally got a decent foot job.

So let's talk about it and rate it one through ten.

Somebody on Twitter reached out to me and said she gives amazing foot jobs.

And I was like, there's absolutely no way.

And it turns out she was close to me.

So I had to try it.

I told her, come on.

Yeah, let's link up.

We're going to collab.

I'm going to post it.

I did the method.

I'm not going to post the video.

I just wanted a free foot job.

We linked up.

She put like a special type of oil on her feet.

And I can't lie, it was pretty decent.

But the reason I say it was decent is because what even is a good foot job?

There you go.

More dick stuff.

Cool.

Prince Harry and Prince Charles.

She's doing more reviews.

The best is that he told her he was going to upload it.

Like, I guess, as like, yeah, I'll share it with people.

And then he was like, no, of course I'm not going to do that.

So, so he was like, that's crazy.

To share the actual foot job.

He was going to share it.

I guess she wanted it shared.

And then, yeah, he was like, no, I'm not doing that.

There's boundaries.

Well, he tricked her.

That's what I'm saying.

He tricked her.

You know what I mean?

Have you ever had a foot job before?

He's going up.

What's going on?

A foot job.

I mean, a foot massage, like a foot job.

How do you even know if a foot job is a good one?

Like, what are you supposed to compare it to?

She couldn't make me finish.

I don't think I would ever finish from feet, honestly.

She was kind of mad that I wanted the buns.

But it's like, what do you expect?

You come over here and expect to just give me feet.

So, yeah, I would give this experience like a six out of ten.

It's probably my last time trying this.

She is expecting me to post it and tag her to give her a little bit of clout.

But I'm not gonna lie, bro.

I'm not gonna post that shit.

What the fuck?

I look like posting me getting a foot job for.

I don't care about digital footprint, but I don't want my future kids to see me getting a fucking foot job.

But what about this video?

No.

This dude's the best.

We got to link up with him at some point, too.

Maybe we should have him do, yeah, official reviews.

We see the place is in Austin.

Yeah.

We got to get more out of him.

Jeez.

This guy, too.

You know, Kanye was all in the news because he's was selling his swastika t-shirts.

Yeah, I saw that.

But then there's another level you can go to, which is what this guy did.

This nigga is wild and

swastika tat on the chest.

And he's Asian.

That is interesting.

That is interesting.

Drugs are powerful, man.

They'll just do things that you would never think possible.

Like, he actually went to a shop and was like, right here.

That's wild, but I'm surprised the shop did it.

Usually they have limits.

You can find people.

You can find people in the tattoo world that are going for it.

Depending on the the state, I guess.

Sure.

You could be like, hey, how about right here?

I watched the Charlie Manson doc.

Yes, I know.

You know everything about your buddy Charlie now.

Fucking, you want to talk about like the rascal of all rascals?

It's Charles Manson.

I mean,

it's really.

Oh, I'm reading that book, Chaos.

That's what the doc is called.

That makes sense.

Remember last night?

The guy that's in it is the author.

He's the author.

Okay.

That's why it makes sense.

The CIA connects.

Yeah, Tom O'Neill is the guy that's like kind of they interview throughout.

Yeah.

It's It's really good.

Yes.

And basically, if you like,

you know, conspiracy theories and, and like, you know, there's got to be a motivation.

What's the story behind the story?

This is the book or the documentary for you because

the theory on this is like, okay, how did this guy,

why would he do this?

How does he, how do you get

people

to commit crimes for you, right?

Like that was, people always were like, how does he get his followers to kill people?

And that's what the documentary and the book explore.

It's basically

Charlie Manson

went to Northern California after

he was let out of prison.

He did like an eight, nine-year bid in prison.

And when he went to Northern California, it was the summer of 67.

And this is as the explosion of summer of love and hippies and everything is happening, especially in Northern California.

There's a health clinic that opens that starts, you know, basically providing services to these people.

And one of the people there is a guy by the name of Dr.

Jolly.

I think his name is Jolly Davis.

Jolly West.

That's it.

Lewis, and his nickname was Jolly.

So

this guy was doing

kind of experimental stuff on people with LSD

and hypnosis.

And it turns out he was doing it because the CIA was paying him to do it.

They were funding his research, which is the entire basis of the MKUltra program, which is pretty well known by people, which is the idea that you could build,

you know, the Manchurian candidate kind of stuff, like get someone to be an emotionless killer and just have them be under complete mind control.

He's doing this

in this building where this clinic is.

In the same building,

you know who has an officer there?

Charles Manson's parole officer.

So Charlie is bringing people into this building who are both going to the clinic,

some would say under the

oversight of

Jolly West.

And his parole officer is writing these incredible reviews about Charles Manson, even though he's consistently violating his parole.

And they're talking about how well he's doing, so it's almost as if the parole officer is doing this for another reason.

Like, why is he writing that Charlie is doing so well and improving when it's clear, when he's clearly in violation of his parole all the time?

Well, a year after that, Charlie comes back down to LA,

moves into the spawn ranch, has all these followers.

He's drugging them with LSD.

He's giving these speeches to them.

He's doing sermons.

And shortly thereafter, he has like this legion of followers who will do whatever he wants, including killing people.

So it's exploring that entire story.

And it's pretty crazy.

Well, I'm reading the book and it goes into great detail the murder of Sharon Tate and the people in the house and how they did it.

I mean, literally the first, I'd say quarter of the book is just outlining the brutality with which

these people carried out.

So it's so, oh, it's just hard to read.

The doc, you know, it goes into really great detail about the murders as well and the investigation and basically how lackluster the LAPD.

Yes, they knew.

They knew.

Investigation.

They didn't get it.

It took months before they even and the second murder that happened.

The Labiancas, the next year.

Yes.

They were just like family business owners.

They weren't show business.

They weren't like, you know what I mean?

And the public word

from LAPD

was that they said the La Bianca and the Tate murders were not related at the time.

This is what they put out publicly, and everyone was like, what?

Yeah.

It was just a little bit of a sound.

It sure seemed like they were related.

Painted the same words on the walls.

And

it's a mind fuck, the whole story is, but it's a really good watch.

You know, Charlie Manson, usually you and I don't overlap in our interests of this nature.

You're not interested in the Royals.

Got it.

Noted.

I'm not always interested in murder, but you and I and our Venn diagram of interests, I like Charlie.

Maybe because it's an LA guy.

Maybe it's that he's a unifier.

Maybe the guy's actually...

Yep.

I mean, he's a pretty neat guy.

He's a pretty cool guy.

He's into Peace and Love and LSD.

We both like music.

He was a musician.

He was a musician.

Yeah.

Well, so they say that he wanted to kill the Tates, right?

Sorry, the Tates.

He didn't want to kill the Tates.

No, he didn't want to kill him either.

That's who he wanted to kill.

The music guy that rejected him or something?

Terry Melcher.

So the problem was that Terry Melcher used to live at Cielo Drive, the house that Sharon Tate was in.

Charlie Manson sent them to kill him.

All right.

But he didn't know that he had moved.

Not there anymore.

So he told the people, kill Terry and kill anybody who's there.

Well, they just showed up and just killed everybody who was there.

It was brutal.

And the person who they didn't kill was the guy that didn't live there anymore, which was the guy they wanted to kill.

Yeah.

And they strung them up.

You know that?

The bodies hung them up.

Who?

The Manson killers.

They strung up the bodies.

They

hung them up.

Tate was on the floor.

Oof.

No, she was on the floor then when they found her, but they hung her up.

I think they slit the bodies.

They like hung them up in the rafters or something and did some shit like that.

That's what it said in the book.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I didn't see that.

Well, maybe they didn't detail it, you know.

All right.

This is the part I remember.

Okay.

What?

Okay.

I mean, yeah, sure.

It was gnarly.

And you know what, too, is that I

had a business meeting one time at this house, the Sharon Tate murder house, because the guy who's a big television producer of like a family sitcom show bought the house, changed the numeric address,

and I asked him, I was like, hey, just curious, why would somebody buy the Sharon Tate murder house?

This is pretty notorious.

And he goes, well, it turns out murder land is discount land.

So instead of paying $6 million, I pay $4 million or whatever.

And you're like, that really?

Personally,

I don't think I could live in that house, right?

I mean, that land?

I mean, you probably wouldn't want to, right?

Like, it's kind of bad vibes.

That's the house.

It's a beautiful home.

Yeah.

It was really nice, but, like, man, that was a weird one.

That's the house now.

That's the house you went to.

Yeah, that's the house I went to.

We had lunch.

There was a butler that served us lunch.

So weird.

Very weird.

It was super weird, dude.

I was like, I don't know if I could work with this dude.

But I had to go to the meeting because I'm like, it's at the fucking Tate murder house.

And his big thing was like, this is discounted land.

Yeah, he liked that there was a discount

from the murders.

It's wild, right?

Yeah.

And he said it so nonchalantly, too.

Like, oh, I mean, you know, it's cheap.

I'm like,

spoken like a true Hollywood.

Yeah, that's a good producer right there.

I was like, I will get this movie made.

All right, let's take a quick break, and then we'll be right back.

Hey, come on, Witten.

Hey.

Welcome back, and we are back with a very special guest.

The last time we saw him, he was here just railing against the less fortunate Hughes washcloths.

And today he's here to talk about so much more.

You know him from Shark Tank.

You know him as the owner of the Dallas Mavericks.

And you know, we're going to get into costplusdrugs.com.

It's Mark Cuban, everybody.

Hey!

Thank you for coming.

Thanks for having me.

Hey, any place that's got vodka on the table

at 11 to 10 in the morning, whatever it is.

Would you like a glass with some ice?

No, fucking ice.

Are you a drinker?

Depends on the moment.

Yeah, I don't drink as much as I used to, but I'll find a reason to.

Yeah, it's fun.

I don't like to do it all the time, but this is ours.

So this is like this.

Well, then you got to do it all the time.

You got to do it, yeah.

But I mean, you know, lead by example, right?

I try to.

I try my best.

Try to do it in the AM, kind of power through the day.

Right?

Yeah, man.

But I don't have a problem.

No, that's nice.

No, not at all.

Look, man, I remember watching something once.

It was an interview you were doing where you said,

everybody who stops me on the street wants to talk about shark tank and i just want to talk about basketball right so let me lead oh great now you want to talk about basketball what the happened man i have no idea wait is that for real no i'm lying but like it's it's beyond if i had if i had any influence it no yeah but so just to lay things out for people who might not know because the last literally the last time i saw you it was a i think it was about fresh news that you had sold your majority shares in the mavericks

And you're like, it's a great situation where I sold the team, but I still have operational control.

Basketball, yeah, that was the mission.

But what part of basketball do you control and what do you not?

I don't anymore.

And I haven't for a while.

So you relinquished all of it?

I didn't relinquish.

They kind of muscled it out of you.

Yeah, I wouldn't say muscled, but you know, the majority owner, Patrick Dumont, decided that, you know, he was comfortable with Nico Harrison, the general manager, and the team he had put together, which is his choice.

His choice.

I mean, and you can't totally argue with him because, you know, we went to the finals.

Yes.

Now, I could tell you, you know, but stuff, but yeah, it was his choice, and he made his choice.

And so he's just a fan now.

You were in the position of having some that was, yeah, when I originally sold the team, that originally was the conversation.

That originally what was supposed to happen.

Okay.

And then over time, and initially it was, you know, and then over time, it was like, okay, and Nico, we trust.

And so here we are.

So I have to imagine that in the, of course, we're talking about Luca being traded, which was, I think, in like, we're not, you know,

similar-ish in like the biggest trade in American sports that I could, like, I remember Herschel Walker being traded.

Remember that?

When you're like, what the fuck?

Yeah.

It was crazy.

I turned around the Cowboys.

It was great.

Yeah.

But, like,

I imagine your phone blew up a lot.

Well, I was in Florida.

at a conference and I don't know, 11 at night, whatever it was.

Yeah, it was late.

Yeah.

And I get a a text, and it was from our general manager.

And I thought he was asking me what I thought.

And then I realized very quickly he was telling me what happened.

And I told him I didn't agree with it and da-da-da-da-da, and various reasons.

And, but it wasn't my decision to make.

Wow.

Yeah.

And it, I mean, for people on the outside, I mean, I know people, a lot of people in Dallas, it was pretty well reported.

They're very, we're very upset.

Oh, yeah.

My family, my daughter was at a party and, you know, had to hide.

Really?

When it came out?

Oh, yeah.

It was, it's, and still, like, I was at here at South by Southwest.

Um, I was at the premiere of The Accountant 2, great movie, by the way.

And somebody started yelling, Fire Nico.

Wow.

You know,

it's like the new Let's Go Brandon.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

But this is like, it's so insane to people that when you have, I mean, Luca's a legit, like, generational attacker.

You don't have to convince me.

You know, but it's, it's, yeah, I mean, I don't get it either you don't get it either no and it is one of these things that as people have said early on like time will tell like yeah that's the way all trades work yeah you know look you know 2004 I let Steve Nash walk and he won two MVPs the next two years but the good news was he beat us in the playoffs the first year

after he left

And then we made it to the finals and won a championship.

So it kind of covered all that.

Is it hard being in that position to to go, you know, this guy, you like the guy, you go, this is a skilled guy, but you have to look at a team's needs and stuff.

Yeah, it is, right?

Because you'll develop personal relationships with them.

And like, I love Luca, right?

You know, we weren't best buddies, but I would text him all the time and DM him and, you know, try to, you know, I would give him all these motivational quotes, even gave him books to read and stuff to read, you know, and so we had a good relationship, got along great with his dad.

I mean, I was just as dumbfounded as everybody else.

Yeah.

And then the current rumor mill is that they're going to look talking about waving Kyrie.

What?

Yeah, man.

You don't watch the rumor mill?

I don't watch the rumor mill.

No, there's no, you know, that makes no sense whatsoever.

Well, neither did the first one.

What?

The fucking Luca going.

Well, yeah, but, you know, okay, you're right.

That didn't make sense.

And I love Kyrie, too.

Maybe they're just trying to get rid of the people I like.

Yeah, maybe that's the whole thing.

Maybe new man, somebody comes in, takes over a new company, gets rid of the old guys.

Maybe you need to do some reverse psychology and talk about how awful they are.

I love Kyrie, actually.

Yeah, no, I mean, he's amazing.

He's a good dude, too.

He's a really good guy.

Both those guys are really good guys.

All right.

Now, Christina's like, all right, I don't know anything about you.

No, I know this guy, Luca, because he's my tribe, right?

What is he?

Slovenian.

Yeah, Slovenian.

Yeah.

I get it.

He speaks better Spanish than English, too.

Seriously?

Shut the front door.

Yeah.

Seriously?

He played for Real Madrid.

Yeah.

When he was 13, he moved to Spain.

Yeah.

Didn't know the language, learned it, speaks English, Slovenian, all these.

Isn't that crazy?

Yeah.

Kobe was like that too with Italy, right?

Yeah.

Kobe, yeah.

He spoke great Italian.

I'm excited.

I really want to see this guy.

Like, I'm so excited to watch what happens.

Like, I'm such a fan of his and this story.

I mean, I just want to see what.

I know we're not allowed to cheer for the Lakers here, but I just want to see what happens with him.

Yeah, it's just brutal.

It's painful, no matter how you look at it.

Yeah.

It's like talking about the, yeah, it's just, yeah, like a pet dying.

Yeah.

You I know, I'm in mourning kind of still.

I understand.

Hopefully.

But they paid me to buy the circus.

And so, you know,

I just look at my bank account and feel better.

There you go.

Yeah.

That's what I'm talking about.

Yeah.

Hell yeah.

Let's talk about money.

Let's talk about rich guy stuff.

Well, no, it just is what it is, right?

You know, I sold for a reason.

And, you know.

Nothing more I can say about that.

I mean, yeah, is what it is.

Can we ask you a rich guy question, though?

Sure.

So

it's better than being asked poor guy question because I used to get asked those too.

Yeah, true, right?

Oh, nothing worse than being poor.

Yeah, I've been there.

We've been there too.

There's any secret rich guy stuff that people should.

What I mean is everybody knows about bigger homes, planes, boats, like that's like the accessible stuff.

But I think the exciting thing is to learn that there's some secret shit you don't have.

Oh, there is.

Yeah.

Like it makes ugly people handsome and pretty.

That too.

Right?

Yeah.

Meaning the.

Jamie Foxx said it great.

He goes, there's a fame missed.

Once you become famous,

people like you a lot more.

It's the same with money, yeah?

Yeah, yeah, I mean, they go hand in hand for the most part.

You know, maybe the level of fame isn't the same, but

yeah, I mean, people,

when you're on these lists and everything, people know who you are.

Right.

You know, and they treat you differently.

And that's probably the hardest part.

And that's why, you know,

I can go places and it's like, hey, hey, hey, hey, that's mark.

You lose your anonymity for better or worse.

Right.

But do you, and then you also develop some skill for reading whether somebody authentically kind of.

No, because I'm not looking for new friends, really.

So you're just like, yeah, because

my friends are my high school buddies, my college buddies, my rugby teammates, you know, the people my roommates from Dallas, when I moved to Dallas, all the same people, you know, guys that play basketball.

I mean, you know, I've been around long enough that I've got, you know,

plus I've got, you know, three kids, 15, 18, and 21, and that's kind of all your focus and your mental focus, your emotional focus, and everything.

So, yeah.

That's true because you are from Pittsburgh.

You grew up working class.

Yep.

So you grew up hustling.

I remember I read this thing that you, when there was a newspaper strike.

Yeah, it's funny.

Somebody else just asked me about that, you know, an hour ago.

Sorry, I want to hear that.

So in Pittsburgh, it was the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Pittsburgh Press Press were the papers.

And if I remember right, they were both printed the same place.

So they went on strike.

And so there were no newspapers.

And so I had a 1966 Buick LaSaber, a big old boat.

And me and my buddies

piled into the car and drove to Cleveland.

And back then, the newspapers were like a quarter each or whatever, I don't know.

And so we had, you know, rolls and rolls to change.

And we just went to, we waited for the new papers to come out.

And we went and hunted down every Cleveland plane dealer truck that we could find and just tried to buy out and bought out literally all the papers that would fit in our car.

And so we then drove out to Pittsburgh and stood on the corners in the morning because we went, you know, midnight the night before, got back to Pittsburgh, you know, six in the morning.

And I remember standing downtown, you know, papers for sale, papers for sale.

And instead of it being a quarter, they were a dollar each and people would tip us just because everybody got all their news from the newspaper back then.

Wow.

How old were you?

16.

So this entrepreneurial spirit is just in somebody, right?

Yeah.

For me, it's been since I was nine, 10 years old.

I wonder, because you mentioned that like you have three kids that are like 15, 18, 20.

And there's got to be a thing when your dad is super successful and it's also super public.

Like,

how do you deal with like a kid being like, it's hard.

What am I going to do?

Right.

Yeah, it's hard, right?

You know, you try to just let them be themselves.

And I try not to say you've got to go in this direction or that direction.

Like Like I was talking to one of my kids about college the other day.

And it's like, you don't have to know what you're going to be when you grow up.

Even, even put aside, you know, our financial situation, I don't think any kid should be under the pressure at 18 or 22 when they graduate from college to know exactly what they're going to do.

And everything's changing so rapidly, technology perspective, just the world in general.

So just, you know, be curious.

That's what I try to get them to do.

Be curious so that you always want to learn something, figure things out.

Be, you know, the more knowledge you have, the more, not power, but the more capabilities you have and the more options are available to you.

And so I try to, you know, my wife and I try to really let them be themselves.

Yeah.

You know, and there are times though, you know, which I hate where my kids are like, no, we don't want you there, dad.

You know, like there are times like both of my younger kids play basketball and they know if I go to a basketball game, you know, there's, you know, the other team will come up and take pictures and this and that.

And it's just like, you know, so I'll come up play.

That's tough.

Yeah, that's tough.

I hate it.

Yeah.

You know, or no, we don't want you there, dad, because it'll make a scene for whatever reason.

I'm like, that's brutal.

Brutal.

That is brutal.

But at the same time, I understand it.

Yeah.

Now, a lot, most of the time, I still show up.

Yeah.

It's coming to the back door or whatever.

Yeah.

But it sounds like you're, I mean, it just sounds like you're so grounded, but how?

You're like this crazy billionaire.

I mean,

you're just going to be crazy.

Not crazy, but like crazy amount of money.

I'm saying no, it is an insane amount of money.

It changes people.

Like, we've seen it in our business.

People can go nutty because the bar gets raised on reality.

You know what I mean?

Like, really, but you can choose to.

I think the thing is that money allows you to have the choice.

Yeah, no, no question.

Like, I've been in situations where, you know, I've been out and my credit card got taken, you know, I've come home and the lights are off and all that stuff, right?

Hold my four-borne, my car, all, all the stories of when you're broke.

yeah you know and and

but i've my attitude has always been if you were happy when you were poor yeah you're gonna be happy when you're rich yeah if you were miserable when you were poor yeah you're gonna be miserable when you're rich miserable people just stay miserable no matter what the circumstances and like i've i tried to be a fun guy enjoy my life when i was broke i didn't you know i was sleeping on the floor of five you know you know five roommates in a three-bedroom apartment and had a blast yeah you know and and i just i i always felt like when it's it's weird when you first make money, it's like, okay, what am I going to buy?

So I bought a plane, you know, and fuck yes, dude.

Fuck yes, right.

Yeah.

Just give us a good, like, can you, first of all, be a bro and just kind of talk about how it wouldn't be a poor idea for me to invest in an aircraft?

I think it's brilliant.

That's what we're talking about.

Here's the thing.

I'm going to clip.

This is what we're going to do.

I'm going to click this out and I'm going to send it to my business manager.

Let's start from getting, Mark, do you think I should get a plane how could you not of course how about the time that i save the time that you save

is money in the bank because you are an earner you are an entrepreneur you create wealth and the more time you have that's what's up

the more money you'll make for your business partners

you are doing it not for yourself because you are not selfish like that You are doing it for them.

You need a plane, not because you need a plane, because you care so much for their future.

Oh, I like that.

That you were going to help them grow their net worth.

And you were going to put, because most people wouldn't buy the plane.

Right.

Most people might just stay at home, put on a Netflix show,

work out, whatever, but not you.

I'm out there grinding.

You're grinding because you are a grinder.

And with a plane,

your grindability is multiplied.

That's what's up.

And then your wife can take that plane wherever she wants with it.

Oh, hell no.

That ruins all that.

Josh, you know where to clip it.

You got it.

I got to go to LA for the day.

Right?

Yeah.

Fuck yeah.

Can I ask you what?

Did you read a lot?

How did you learn?

Are you reading Napoleon Hill?

Who are you reading?

Oh, I did, though.

I read your book.

Me too.

How to win the Sport of Business?

Yes.

Short and sweet.

Yes.

But you know what?

It's so informed.

First of all, it got me fired up.

It's called How to Win it to Sport of Business.

It's like 64 pages.

It's

great.

The thing that I also get is, you know, so many people, you'll hear this thing.

Your whole life, you hear like, man, if I had a million dollars or whatever they go, you'd never see me again.

Like, right.

And then you see these guys like you, super successful guys, who you're like, hey, how come you're working?

You're like, because that's like my life.

That's what I like to do.

That's what you enjoy.

Yeah, but you know, I love to read, right?

To this day, you know,

reading, driving around, listening to motivational speeches.

Who are you reading?

Tell me.

Who do you like?

Who do you like?

There's not anyone.

Like now, I just read about artificial intelligence and healthcare.

You know, it's not like, oh, I've got this great fiction guy or, you know, this, you know, biographer.

But like when I was just getting to Dallas, I drive around listening to Zig Ziggler, the same motivational tape all the time.

Zig Ziglar.

Over and over.

And I drive by the big houses, you know, just this is the mode.

Yeah, there you go.

Zig Ziglar, my man.

You know, great name.

Yeah, what a great name.

And so

it was just anything I could do to get motivated because the way I always look, particularly in technology, right?

The way I always looked at tech was there was the person who or people who created it.

And then there was everybody else.

And I was tied with everybody else.

And so if I put in the effort to learn it, that put me ahead of everybody else who was selling it, integrating it, doing whatever.

So it was just a question of effort.

And that's the way I've always looked at business.

If I put in the time, like healthcare with costplusdrugs.com.

Oh, you can't disrupt pharmacy.

Well, we have.

This is a

business.

No, it's killing it.

It's killing it.

It's called costplustdrugs.com.

And, you know, most people, when you go to the doctor and get a prescription and the doctor just says, okay, you need this prescription.

What pharmacy do you use?

And that's it.

And you have no idea if you can afford it.

You don't know what your copay or your deductible or your co-insurance is.

If you have insurance or if you have high deductible or no insurance, you're screwed, right?

Because you have that fear of walking up.

Like I was saying, when I was broke, if I needed a prescription, it's terrifying to stand in line so what we did at costplustdrugs.com we decided to bring some transparency so you go to costplustdrugs.com you put in the name of the medication that that you need and we carry about 2500 of them not all of them but we're getting there and first thing that comes up is our cost we show you what it costs what it costs you yeah what it costs us to buy and said put in tadilophil t-ad's generic thealis and i know you want to know what it costs hell yeah dude

T-A-D-A, something

to Dilophil.

Yeah.

So you see, like for five milligrams for a 30 count, right?

So a whole month, it's only $6.60.

And that's including our 15% markup.

And then it's, you know, I think that includes our pharmacy fee as well.

So then it's $5 for shipping and handling.

So for $11.60.

So I'm just telling you, you could get 90 of them.

Click on 90.

Click on 90.

90 count.

Okay, for 9.07 which costs less a big bag of ms or now 90 generic sialis dude look at the comparative price retail price with other pharmacies my gosh 929 so but yeah but that's not even the point the bigger point is what brings more joy to your day an m sitting next to your bed or generic sialisialis that's what i'm saying i start my day with this you know how the birth rate is declining in you know that's what we're here for to increase the birth rate

so everybody out there get your prescription for tadilophil or whatever can i tell you something about tadilophil too some people are are really married to this idea is that you pop one before before you're going to have intercourse what i like to do is pop it in the morning and just see where the day takes me

i love going to the urinal and being like look at this guy like

way more than i it's like morty wood is back it's back

it's back it feels great see that is that is the whole mission right we are here for every guy of a certain age to have a smile on his face in a morning.

If you're going to go sit with the boss and you're asking

for a raise, it's way better to do it with a chubby than fully fleshed.

Right?

You feel like you sit up there.

And when you get that plane, let me just tell you.

Oh,

shit.

What about the yacht?

Do we do the yachts?

I'm not a yacht guy.

Yet, yacht guy.

Because you're stuck.

Did you ever charter one, though?

Yes.

And you enjoyed it or no?

My family did.

Me, not as much.

You not as much?

Why didn't you like it?

Because I was disconnected from everything.

You know, and I wanted, I don't like that.

You know, I'm, I run all my businesses 95% via email.

And so when I'm disconnected, so I can get caught up and put my phone down.

That's fine, right?

But if I, I don't know how far behind I am, that's just anxiety for me.

And does somebody, everybody, like, there's a thing where no matter who you marry in this world, you.

you have there's things you accept about a spouse right yeah of course does your wife just has accepted from the beginning, like, this guy works.

Like, you're like,

yeah, she know, but you know, she's very independent.

She's super smart, independent.

So it's more like my wife is doing her thing.

Oh, her thing.

Yeah, and I can either come along.

Okay.

It's up to me, right?

She's not waiting on me.

That's why I love her because she's like strong.

She does her own thing.

She, yeah, she's got things that, you know, her responsibility in the house.

And I don't touch it.

You know, there's just certain things that I know that that's tiffs.

Yeah, I think that's a good word.

That's kind of how you have to

if you're married to a highly motivated, career-driven man.

The woman has to be able to do her own thing.

Well, in this case, she's more motivated than I am.

She really, I mean.

What is she into?

What does she do?

Tennis,

kids,

different stuff.

Yeah, charity stuff.

Yeah.

That's nice.

Yeah, but she's on the go all the time.

That's awesome.

Do you have a, because the show, obviously, Shark Tank is a worldwide global phenomenon.

Do you have an immediate bullshit meter thing that goes on when it starts?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

What's your tell that you're like, this is some bullshit?

You know, the number one tell is when they talk about, well, if you only get 1% of this billion-dollar market.

Oh, okay.

Because everybody.

But valuation is just.

Well, no, like, well, if I get 1% of a billion-dollar market, that's $10 million in sales.

And, you know, it's only $100,000, but you're not going to get 1%.

So that's the number one thing.

But literally, the the hardest part of shark tank is coming up with something to say to go out

so the minute they come on and they start talking i'm not looking for reasons to go in i'm looking for reasons to go out

and and because i've done too many deals um

but once they but then sometimes it'll just be like no you i got to do this deal so really yeah and you just it just everything lines up for you not everything but you know I end up selling myself.

It's like, okay, they're not good at A, B, or C, but I'm really good at A, B, and C.

So if we combine forces, um,

and I'm wrong probably half the time, but it is what it is.

I've got, you know, well, that's interesting.

You're wrong half the time.

Do you think that accepting failure is part of why you're so successful too?

Like, do you think that's it?

Well, you got to.

Yeah, you got to, right?

Because if you're not failing, you're not trying.

I mean, it's cliché-ish, but it's true.

You know, you've got to dive in and try things and see what happens.

And, you know, that's okay if it doesn't work.

Because especially in investing you know you want your your wins to cover all your failures sure like down here um in austin i'm going to see the guys from beatbox beverages you know they were a shark tank company and they're just crushing it they went from struggling initially um when they came on the show to through more

you know effort on their own um to now being hundreds of millions of dollars in sales jesus and being worth hundreds of millions of dollars um as a company so that's awesome and that's that's a shark tank yeah Yeah, like Dude Wipes, bring up Dude Wipes.

Same thing.

Yeah, Dude Wipes is a major brand now.

Everybody knows what Dude Wipes is.

Their marketing and everything.

That was a Shark Tank deal.

No way.

Yeah, the only investor that they've ever had, there's Brian and Sean and Kruke.

And like, I gave them, I forget, maybe

$200,000 for 15% or something like that.

And they're worth, you know, hundreds, probably a half a billion dollars.

Wow.

Yeah.

So is that your biggest success?

Is that the biggest thing?

Those two are the biggest.

Another one, Mush Oats, is crushing it.

Dude wipes are everywhere, man.

Everywhere.

These guys are brilliant marketers, both of them.

We have dude wipes here.

Yes.

I knew I liked you guys.

Yeah, yeah.

Now we just got to get you some beatbox.

But yeah, we'll get some beatbox in here.

But yes.

Would you be interested?

And then I don't know if you're willing to take risks in funding a porn shoot between a modest Walmart worker and a porn, a world-famous porn star to make a dream come true.

Have you gotten in that business yet?

No.

Okay, all right.

No.

Fair enough.

He's looking for a way out.

He was looking for it out.

What on Shark Tank?

What is the dumbest pitch you've ever heard?

His brain right now is

shifting

so many, so, so many.

Like there was one that came on years ago

called Taillights.

And what it was, it was like a circular thing that had little lights flashing and it was meant to be attached to the back of someone's jeans

for a girl teenager in particular.

because you know shake your taillights this guy thought it was a great idea and it was great TV and so he had a girl 16 17 year old girl who turned out to be his niece and so I said to the girl I'm like would you wear this on a date and she was just so conflicted because her face just dropped because it was a horrible idea and nobody's gonna wear it on a date they're probably long gone um

But yeah, that was one of the worst fart candles.

Oh, what?

What?

Hold on.

Now you're speaking our language.

There you you go, right?

Yeah.

No, different flavored candles, but like, you know.

Fart candles.

Yeah, Spencer did Spark Candles.

Exactly.

And when you shart instead of fart, dude wipes.

Dude wipes.

There you go.

So you get both covers.

You get two for one.

I can't believe you didn't do fart candles, bro.

No.

There was like awakened bacon.

Like in the early days of Shark Tank, they were a lot sillier because people didn't know who we were and what it was.

There was another one where there was an alarm clock that made bacon so you were awakened to bacon.

That's right.

That's pretty rad.

Yeah, it was funny as hell, but you know, what if it caught fire?

Yeah, sure.

Your hair is on fire.

That's how you're getting bacon fresh, too.

Like, what?

There's so many problems.

You know, that also to develop the prototype, that guy ran that thing.

Oh, the guy was great.

Wait.

The wakened bacon.

The wakened bacon.

Is he still in?

Oh, my God.

He didn't.

He was like, his whole story is like, Mark Cuban told me no.

Awakened.

Season two.

Yeah, that's when I was on as a guest.

That's hilarious.

Oh my God.

And then there's the ones that should have been good.

Like

there's one breathometer.

And it was great.

It was a personal alcohol detector to tell your blood level.

This guy, right?

And made perfect sense.

We all got in.

You see a picture with me and him.

I started looking at

his Instagram feed right after we gave him the money.

We gave him a lot of money.

And he's on this island at this party and this party.

And I'm like, dude, right?

What?

What are you doing?

What are you doing?

You're supposed to.

Oh, I'm marketing.

Whole thing crashed and burned.

Yeah.

And it had other problems, but it was such a great idea and it just didn't make it.

Yeah.

And also, you can also see the ones too, where I've seen ones where you guys are super competitive, like you guys are really wanting it.

Yeah.

And then the person

just talks themself out of any deal, but also doesn't then take take the business into something.

Like sometimes people go, I don't want, I'm just actually not going to do this deal with you guys.

Right.

And they're able to have their business still succeed.

Right, right, right.

But the ones who kind of self-implode after it, that's a bummer to watch.

No, I mean, and it happens, right?

Because there's people that, and in life, too, off the shark tank, you oversell, you know, and there's times that we'll say to them, just shut up.

Yeah.

You have our interest and the more you talk, the worse it gets.

Yes.

You know, you're talking yourself out of it.

It's It's like a guy trying to get laid.

Right?

God damn, yeah.

Say anything, right?

Like, just shut up.

Shut up.

They don't want to give away equity.

That's always the thing.

You're talking about the guy trying to get laid?

No.

I'm still working on it.

There's a new angle, right?

That's a new angle.

Yeah.

They never want to give anything to get stuff.

Well, no, and that's also a tell, right?

So when a company comes in and they want $500,000 for 2%,

they know how the game is played.

And what's worse is like they practice their pitches over and over and over again with the producers because it's hard to come on knowing you're on national television and millions and millions of people are going to be watching.

So they practice it.

And part of it is what your ask is.

And so the producers basically will tell, you can't specifically tell them yes or no, but they'll say, you know, when you're practicing, this is probably better.

And they'll practice it.

So it was, you know, $100,000 for 3%, right?

I'm like, okay, you can get along with that.

And then they'll come on and say $500,000 for 2%.

So in the moment, they'll say it.

In the moment, they'll say it.

And we're just like, no, it's not, you know,

no, that's like a $25 million valuation.

You have $17 in sales.

Yeah, yeah.

You know, it's good.

You love your company, but, you know, it's not going to work.

Yeah, delusional.

One of the things I've always, because I've heard this topic discussed so much, but I've never actually had the conversation with someone is there's this thing related, I guess you could say, to the giving pledge, where like super wealthy people pledge to give away the majority of their fortune.

Right.

But how do you feel about it?

I've always wondered when you have the money, everybody wants to leave things for their kids.

Do you feel like you're throwing off someone's development if you go, like, by the way, one day you're going to get like several billion dollars?

Well, they're smart.

They know how to do the math.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

My bigger worry is, are they going to knock me off?

Right, right.

No, it is something I think about.

My wife and I talk about all the time because how much is too much?

Yeah.

Right.

But at the same time, you want them to be able to survive it.

And so,

like, particularly when I sold the Mavs,

I kind of organized it so that they'll be okay, but not so much that they can just go buy planes and stuff.

Okay.

So it is a consideration.

Oh, yeah, for sure.

And then there's certain things that they have to do, certain, you know, benchmarks, graduate, you know, not do certain things and, you know, like that.

Yeah, okay.

Yeah, because I mean, sometimes you see, obviously, like in the news, like so-and-so inherited like

$40 billion.

Yeah, like that's like

it's scary.

Scary.

You know, because I don't want, you know, I've seen, you know, I've watched secession.

Yeah.

You know, you don't want, I don't want that for my kids.

And I don't want it to be a battle.

And that's one of the reasons I sold the Mavs.

Yeah.

Really?

Because it really was.

Like all the backlash from the Luca trade.

What if they made a mistake like that?

They took over and they made a mistake like that.

And there's, you know,

I just, they may not have a problem with it, like, but it would tear me apart.

Yeah.

You know, and I want them to go on their own path.

Yes.

That's the part I'm thinking of, just the path.

Yeah, whatever it may be, I want them to be themselves.

I don't want them to be Mark Cuban's kid for their entire lives.

Well, I think that there's like an amount of money that somebody can inherit where you have distorted the path.

Yeah, because 100%.

Right.

Because, you know, at some level, you want them to understand the value of money.

Yeah.

And not it just to be something that's just there all the time because why not?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Mark, have you had fun with your money?

Yeah.

What's the best?

Tell me the fun stuff.

I mean, owning the Mavs, winning a championship, running on the court on the game winner,

no longer stressing about bills,

being able to go, you know, I mean, even like when I was younger, before, you know, I had a B next to my name, I bought a lifetime pass on American Airlines and just being able to, you know, be at a bar, meet somebody, or go call a friend and say, let's go to Barcelona.

Let's go to, you know, wherever.

Yeah, I mean, but more.

Do you do impromptu trips a lot?

Like, do you go?

Not so much anymore because the businesses have kids, right?

Yeah, yeah.

You know, but at one point you were like, let's just go.

Oh, let's go.

When I was single, I was like, hell no, let's go.

And it was just like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, all the time.

But now it's just more like stress reduction.

You know, I can focus on my kids, focus on cost plus, and it opens the door.

You know, I would say it's not so much the impromptu stuff that's rewarding, but with cost plus drugs, I'm getting emails almost every day saying, you know, I'll tell you what I got two weeks ago where somebody sent me an email saying I have cancer.

And when I went to the pharmacy, they told me it was going to be $900 a month for this medication I needed.

And I literally.

decided that I'd rather die sooner than put the financial stress on my wife and family.

Wow.

And then I found out about costplustdrugs.com.

And instead of $900, it was like $73.

And now we can afford it.

Crazy.

That shit feels good.

That feels good.

That feels really good.

And that happens all the time.

I had a friend from college and

they got in touch with me.

And he was on this drug, Droxodopa, and he lost his insurance.

And he called up the local pharmacy, one of the big chains.

It was going to be $10,000 every three months.

Our price is $73 a month.

And it's gone down since then.

And so when I was in Nashville and somebody walked up to me and just started hugging me and crying.

Oh, it's so nice.

I mean, what's better than that?

What?

I mean, this system is so fucked up.

So fucked, but we're fixing it.

Yeah, we're literally changing it.

How do you wind down at night?

You sound like you're pretty mentally active.

What is down to like for a guy that's so driven?

And I don't think there's anything wrong, by the way, with the fact that somebody loves to work and loves to do things.

I mean, it's not hard work.

It's not like I'm sweating my nuts on the bottom.

No, I know.

But I'm saying you love, here's the thing.

You love being in the game.

Yeah.

Like, and for you, the thrill of competition exists in business, yeah, and like you want to get involved.

I get it, like, I totally get it.

But is there a downtime fun thing that's not

the gym, I work out, yeah, I hang out with my kids, go do their, you know, go to their games.

You guys do family trips too, like not so much because they're teenagers, they decide, right?

Right, you know, um, but when we could force them to go force, they called it forced family fun, we gotta force them for a while.

Oh, yeah, yeah, oh, I will.

Oh, yeah, right now they want to be with us, yeah, and all that.

Oh, yeah, the perfect age, yeah, perfect.

It's so fun yeah we're gonna go to london next week for tommy shows and i'm just i like to travel with them i think it's so important to learn the world you think the six-year-old will still hold my hand

oh that's just amazing and you tell yourself you're like this isn't gonna last oh for sure right and you know my my son gave me a hug any hug right like my favorite word in the universe is dad yeah right just you know dad this even if it's dad you know it doesn't matter you know still

dad are you a religious guy no no no I know you're Jewish.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I'm culturally religious, if you will, but I'm not going to services.

No.

And what do you watch at night?

What are you watching?

Not,

you know, Mavs games, but other than Mavs games.

Murder?

You watching Charles Manson docs?

No, no, I don't get into the docs.

Yeah.

You know,

in the middle of Night Agent.

What's that?

Yeah.

On Netflix.

Oh, I've that.

I'll give you some better ones.

Yeah, they're all good, right?

Have you watched The Agency yet?

No, but my wife did.

The agency is fantastic.

Like, for me, like if I can't make it to the gym and I'm on a bike at home, that's typically when I watch shows.

Just anything to, you know, distract me while I'm working out.

Yeah.

Speaking of working out, if you're wealthy, is there any excuse to be out of shape?

Yeah, because some people go to dinners and, you know, go do all the fancy nine-course dinners that are 9,000 calories.

But shouldn't, like, if somebody with those resources, isn't there like, like, you look great.

Yes.

You take care of yourself.

Shouldn't there be a certain bar where it's like after you get this many zeros

like next to your name, they're like, hey, man, you got to be able to do that.

No, no, no.

No, it's not even that because it's like, I was fat for a while.

I mean, definitely chubby.

And it's because I was taking advantage of every opportunity.

And like, there were no nights off.

Right.

It was just like going out.

So I went from being like ripped to being, you know, porky pig.

And it was just like, cause I was going out and, you know, and the pants are getting a little tighter.

But then when you get older, it's more just because of age, right?

Because the consequences are a lot worse.

They are.

And so it's like, okay, let me figure out what's best for me and the best way to stay in shape.

And plus,

I don't drink as much as I used to.

And that just made it a lot easier.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You like to drink.

I like to drink too.

But I got breast cancer, so now I can't.

I'm okay, though.

I'm totally healed.

I'm good.

Oh, good.

Good, good, good, good.

You know, but yeah, it's a, it's a carcinogen.

I'm so bummed because I love alcohol.

You know, there's a lot to be said for, especially when there's a bottle right here.

Your willpower is really good.

What did you drink?

What was your jam?

Usually just beer, Bud Light, Miller Light.

Apart from Pittsburgh.

Yeah, right.

Iron City Light if I'm in Pittsburgh.

Hell yeah.

Hell yeah.

But then Tito's and soda.

But only because of the calories, not because I'm a big, you know, I'm not a wine drinker.

Osos and soda.

Osos and soda.

Exactly.

Texas made, by the way.

All the better reason.

I never heard of Titos.

I've heard of Osos and soda.

By the way,

Osos is that.

Is that it?

When I drink alcohol, it's only Osos.

And every now and then, I'll add some.

Yeah, there you go.

That's fine.

I like it on that, too.

But it sounds like you're not in the trap of like

rich guy stuff where stuff isn't exciting anymore.

Like, for instance, we found that you can pay a Russian company to take you out on a boat and hunt.

Somali pirates.

Is that something you would be interested in doing?

Like to go shoot them and kill them?

Well, here's the thing.

It's just rolling the dice.

So what it is, it's do they know that the Somali pirates have guns that can shoot back?

Well, it's the you know, you Russians are wild, bro.

So, what they do is you got to pay between $7,500 and I think $12,000

to go on a boat that will pass through the strait that usually has Somali pirates.

Do they play Russian roulette while they're waiting?

And then you just have their like a.50 caliber and like an RPG, and then they're like, if you see one, let her rip, you know?

So, yeah, it's

no, that is not like

forced family fun.

That's not the fun.

Hey, kids, kids go where go.

That would be a fun

Somali pirates shoot away, right?

They would love that.

Or hunting endangered species.

You guys don't want to do that?

No.

See?

You're so grounded, man.

That's the definition of ground and not wanting to shoot Somali pirates.

It's the thing is that with the, I mean, those are extreme examples, but I think the thing that is like refreshing in a way is that so many people or people that a lot of times have a lot of money, there's just like this entitlement that comes with it.

Like, I should be able to do it.

And we see it.

We see it

with very public people like that.

That's just not my style.

But, I mean, there's a lot of people who think I'm a matic, right?

And it's just like more, but I like to challenge people intellectually, right?

I like to bully up, you know, not bully down, but bully up.

You get into some real

X

wars.

You definitely have to have it out with people.

You let people go.

Try back at me.

Oh, yeah, I don't mind, right?

Challenge me.

You know, if you can change my mind, fine.

I'm here to learn.

But I like that challenge.

So that's probably my other time killer.

But I'm more on Blue Sky now than I am on X.

What's Blue Sky?

Blue Sky is kind of an alternative, and I'm M-Cubin there.

They've got like 33 million users, but we're.

It's a social media platform.

It's like the guy who started Twitter started Blue Sky.

And it's more extensive.

Yeah, ejected.

Yeah.

And so, yeah, I'm on there all the time.

But it leans where Twitter leans right, Blue Sky leans left.

I see.

If I want to argue politics, Republican politics, I'll be on X.

If I want to argue or support Democratic politics, I'll be on Blue Sky.

And is it completely

far-fetched to believe that you would run for office?

Yeah, completely far for that.

Completely.

No.

I wouldn't put my family through that.

That's the real reason.

But without the family.

Oh, yeah.

If I was single, it'd be like, let's go.

Let's go.

Yeah, let's go because, yeah, it didn't matter.

Yeah.

That's so true.

Wow.

It just destroys your private life.

Terrible.

I mean, yeah, I have the private life as it is, but just like the grief.

I mean, I sold the Mavs because I just told you I didn't want them to go through the shit, right?

Now, imagine running for president.

Oh, my God.

There's nothing that can prepare anyone for that, really.

No, no.

And I could deal with it.

Yeah, I could deal with it, but it's not even a job that I really want.

Yeah.

You know?

And plus with healthcare and the thing we're working on there, if I can, you know, change healthcare,

I'm happy with that.

Yeah.

Because, I mean, no one likes healthcare the way it is.

No.

Right.

So it's like, okay, that's a win.

That's good for the legacy.

What's your thing on?

Because you've also been pretty outspoken about

AI, right?

It's like, so there's so many possibilities.

Yeah.

There's no limit.

There's no limit.

Like in our business, there's a lot of,

I would say, on the creative side, there's a lot of apprehension, resistance.

People are not thrilled with the idea.

No, it should be the opposite.

But they're not.

Because what the reason, one of the the main reasons is that, you know, like studios, for instance, could and have had AI do

treatments, write-ups of things where writers then see this as like a threat.

No, because you still need to be able to tell a story.

Yeah.

And you still need to know the beginning, middle, and end.

True.

And you still need to know your audience.

And AI can propose a million things in a second, but then somebody's got to go through and decide what they're going to put their money into.

AI is not going to hit your bank account and then produce a movie for you, produce a podcast or whatever.

And using the technology, you guys could extend.

So, like, have you guys looked at Notebook LM?

No.

Oh, my God.

So, bring up Notebook LM, the podcast feature.

Okay.

It is insane.

So, literally, like, you've got your rundown list.

You could feed your rundown list into it and have it go look up things and do summaries of all those things and then have it create a podcast.

And the podcast sounds like

real.

Wait, I don't understand.

So, like, I'm into listening to an advice podcast.

I'm listening to Joe Rogan.

I'm listening to whatever, murder podcast.

And it mashes the three together?

No, no, no, no, no, no.

So, like, you just want to do a general podcast like this about all the different topics, like a traditional radio show type thing, right?

And you take your rundown list, like you guys have.

Oh, and

you know, like you guys have all your topics.

And so, all your topics, right?

And then you send it out and say, do the homework on these with

that.

And then put it in there and you'll have these two people talking just like we're talking.

But

it's insane.

It's insane.

Like for business, it's great because you can take your training manuals, your onboarding manuals, all these different things.

And because kids, particularly, they don't want to read.

They just want to listen.

So you can be walking, taking your walk or on a bike or whatever and listening to your training guidelines that sounds like a regular podcast and they make it entertaining.

But that sounds kind of scary on one end, but but you can start training it to do the things that you want it to do with your voices.

So if you wanted to pick the topics and

fill in the information you want discussed in this podcast, instead of having one and all, you know, the shows the way you have now, you can add a thousand of them.

That's amazing.

Yeah.

And I mean, it's just.

What's this?

This is an actual audio example of it?

Uh-huh.

Ever feel like you're just drowning in information?

Oh, tell me about it.

These are different research papers, articles.

Yeah.

Like even a whole whole shelf of books on one topic.

Right.

And you just need to get a handle on it all.

It's a struggle.

Yeah.

And there's got to be a better way.

Oh, there definitely is.

Well, that's what we're diving into today.

Okay.

Notebook LM.

Interesting.

Oh, my God.

It's this experimental AI research assistant thing Google's come up with.

Really fascinating stuff.

Yeah, you're not just going to be able to do it.

Literally, so you know, these are not real people.

These are AI voices.

These are AI voices that could be your voice.

There's a whole YMH one.

We should do a full episode.

Stupid topics yeah when you're in london we just put out this yeah our rundown i actually like this idea it's insane do you then i mean it feels like the natural thing for anybody in business to do is figure out how ai can help these different

yes i mean look what you're using right now right so you know you guys have been in radio in the industry forever right and think going back when you had your first you know it used to be they played records yeah and there was a dj that just spoke and then all of a sudden there were the different um playback systems right?

Yeah.

And then you had editing and then, you know, the DJs were editing right on the spot, different songs.

Technology has influenced every industry always.

And, you know,

it's no different now.

But the difference is like going back to PCs and then software and going from analog to digital, you could try and kind of extrapolate where things were going.

With AI, there's no way you would have anticipated what we just heard.

Right.

You know, and it goes into a thousand, a zillion different directions.

Are you investing heavily in AI?

Yeah, I mean, but more importantly, just trying to learn it.

Learn what the possibilities are.

Right.

Because like for kids, they're going to grow up.

This will be native to them.

For us, we've got to put in the effort to learn.

But like on my Instagram feed now, it used to be, you know, sports, sports, sports, sports, business, but whatever.

Now it's...

AI hack, AI hack, AI hack, AI hack, new AI software, new AI software, because it's changing so rapidly.

But to me, it's fun.

It's fun to learn.

That's very cool.

We should have fun with that.

You can, right?

So we're taking a break.

Now we have, you know,

you know.

You know, what's interesting, I'm listening to you speak and the way that your mind works.

It seems to me that you're always looking towards the future.

Like you're looking for what's undiscovered yet.

Is that how your business mind works?

100%.

Yeah.

You first want to bring it up.

Steve Jobs called everything, said everything is a remix.

Right.

Where you take what's already in place and then you add whatever value you can add to it to get it to the next place.

You know, when we started AudioNet, which was the first streaming company, it was like, okay, here's the internet, and here's how we listen to Indiana basketball over distances because the internet solves that.

You know, HD, well, here's high definition.

It's all going, TV's going digital.

And even though the first high-definition televisions in 2001, when we started HDNet, were $25,000 for a screen like that.

God,

I knew the price was coming down.

Yeah.

Right.

So it was just a question of when.

Now with this, with AI, it's not a question of if it's going to change things.

The only question is how how and who's going to do it and so by informing yourself you can i can figure it out yeah i can stay ahead so i can say okay this is how this works so now like what we just talked about once i saw notebook lm and the podcast feature it wasn't okay what's going to happen to podcasters it was where are there situations where people don't want to read but like to consume information via audio and or video because you when you talk to kids today they're not big readers yeah you know, your kids aren't as much as you're going to want them to read, yeah.

More stuff is going to be it's different, you know, and it's not that they're not learning, it's that they're learning differently, yeah, right.

And so, for kids who are learning differently, what can we do?

I like that,

I like that idea, especially that you don't want to read like manuals.

Windows,

but even you know, stuff like to get your rundown, so you literally could use Notebook LM and

just um Gemini or Chat ChatGPT or whatever and they have just you can just list it and just say do me a research summary of all these topics using the latest news like chat cheat chat GPT has these task features where they'll go out and they'll look it up just like Google Alerts would work and you can have them summarize it for all the topics you're interested in or you can say give me the hottest 20 topics that are being discussed across the internet and see what it comes back with to see make sure you're not missing anything yeah right because it takes time for you to research all this and for sure you've got to dig in and you've got all your sources

a research assistant seems like a it's brilliant it's brilliant and it'll save you so much time and so learning how to use these things okay what are the number one trending topics on twitter on blue sky on instagram what are the number one hashtags on instagram and you do this this is how you do your research no i but i could yeah i want to know what allows me to do it and so when i'm when i'm trying to look at um an industry or a company or I'm doing something, then I'll go on there and I'll, you know, now the research capabilities are just blowing up.

It's moving so fast.

So there's tools like Deep Research and I'll say, okay, tell me about this company.

Now it doesn't get everything.

Right.

Right.

It gets.

But it's just like if you hired a research assistant, they're not going to get everything, right?

So if you have an intern here or whoever, and you're the, your social media, whoever, you know, your producers, and you say, find me all the hot topics.

And then you say, oh, I just heard about this.

I was listening or or I saw this and you add to it.

It's no different.

It's not going to be 100%,

but it saves you time.

That's true.

Dang, dude.

What topic can you talk about forever?

Healthcare these days.

I mean, I could go all day on healthcare.

It's just like, that's where my brain is right now because I want to change it.

And everybody thinks it's impossible to change, but it's not.

It's actually, healthcare is really simple.

You know, you go to the doctor and they prescribe you a medication or don't.

You go to the doctor, you know, they say you're fine.

Maybe you need some more, you know, care for whatever.

And there's only two questions.

What are they going to charge you and how are you going to pay for it?

Yeah.

And those two questions have been so complicated by everybody that it's like, why is it like this?

And so my whole mission in cost, starting with Cost Plus, and we're doing this thing called Cost Plus Wellness for the healthcare side is just to simplify healthcare by moving all these extraneous companies out.

Oh, they hate me.

They hate me that you just hear the shit they've said.

But because they know that when you remove these pieces, it's actually not hard.

Right.

You know, and so now

it's overcomplicated.

And the CEOs who run, who make the decisions on health, self-employed, there's companies that self-insure, meaning they don't use the insurance component of insurance companies.

They take on that risk themselves.

And I'm going to them and saying, look, you're getting ripped off.

You know, you're paying too much.

You're not getting the care you need.

You're getting pushed in these directions that you shouldn't go.

And they're like, I didn't know that.

And so I'm just spending all this time educating CEOs.

And each one that I get to change is one step closer to the whole system.

And so changing, that's what I'm doing.

That's an awesome mission.

Yeah.

How would you change?

This is completely not as important, but would you change anything in basketball today?

Oh, there's a ton of shit I would change.

What's like a top three or whatever?

Top one.

So, you know, people talk about too many threes.

That is a big criticism of today.

So the question is why?

If you're behind a three-point line and you're shooting three, a defender, if they're even anywhere, if they're in the landing zone where your feet might come down, it's a foul.

And that's three free throws.

So in other words, the three-point shooter is so protected that they can't even put their feet anywhere near.

The defender can't put their feet anywhere near you.

You go an inch inside the three-point line, they can beat the shit out of you.

And it's called incidental contact.

You get closer to the basket, the closer you get, the more

contact and abuse can happen.

And so you've got to change that so that you call the game by the rules inside the line so that they're not so disadvantaged when you're shooting a shot inside the three-point line.

And to compensate for that, now they've let

offensive players lower their shoulder and knock over defenders or knock them out of the way to get space.

And that makes the game worse too.

So whenever you you see a drive like Shay Gilchrist Alexander, you know, most likely the MVP, he gets down by the free throw line, boom, he's lowering his shoulder and taking a step back and he's money.

Five years ago, you couldn't lower your shoulder like that.

So you need some rule changes.

You need some rule changes.

Yeah.

So, you know, to me, that's one of the biggest.

You know, Adam Silver talked about shortening the game.

I believe it.

You believe it.

Yeah, I believe it.

I really do because it's likely.

Yeah, to 40 minutes.

Yeah.

Because it's a commitment to watch a whole NBA game.

And we're so used to right now consuming NBA highlights on social media.

Totally.

Like your kids, if they're becoming sports fans, are they boys, girls?

They're boys, boys.

Boys.

Okay, so they're starting to, your oldest is starting to get into sports and follow it, right?

And you're trying to keep them off of social media, but on YouTube, you'll see highlights and everything, right?

That's how they're going to grow up.

Where you, you know, the three of us had family teams.

Yes.

You know, in Pittsburgh, it was the Steelers.

It was the Pirates.

Yes.

No matter how bad, the Penguins, You know, in Dallas, it was the Mavericks and the Cowboys.

Now it's players on social media.

Yes.

And, you know, it's hard to commit to watching a full game.

And if you look at ratings, there's an inverse relationship between the amount of actual playing time and the ratings.

If you watch an NFL game, there's 11 to 15 minutes of actual playing time.

Like you can watch a play, go grab your dude wipes, run to the restroom, use a whole package of dude wipes, come back before the next play.

It's crazy.

You can't do that with the NBA.

Do you think that there's a real possibility that that could pass?

That, like, that they could reduce the not right the second, no, but you know, the way Adam is, and he's smart, the commissioner of the NBA, he socializes these things.

Yeah, and then over time, and just depends where the numbers go because we have a brand new TV contract starting next year with a lot of streaming providers.

And it'll be really, really interesting to see how it all plays out.

Now, one other thing we wanted to ask is that I really feel like when you ask people what's your favorite thing, there's always something

false in there because people have this natural ambition to want to say the right thing or say the more impressive thing.

I agree with that.

And that being that way, I think

one of the people that you can only get the most honest takes from is somebody who can actually afford to get

anyway.

Yeah.

So I wanted to ask a series of like, what's your favorite of this?

Sure.

Where you just tell whether it's expensive or not.

Five ways.

So you're a basketball guy.

Uh-huh.

Favorite sneakers?

Adidas.

Adidas.

Oh,

okay.

Let's see them.

Which ones?

Oh, there you go.

Okay, those are good.

Because they're light for when I work with them.

Work Nike socks.

With Nike socks that I get for free from the Mavericks.

There you go.

But yeah, so when I go

play basketball, shoot baskets, work out, I like them because they're lighter.

Lighter.

Okay.

Feel good.

Okay, so there you go.

It's an honest take.

I believe you.

T-shirt.

You're a famous t-shirt guy.

Yeah.

Do you have a favorite brand of t-shirts?

Yeah.

I like t-shirt classics.

And then

probably, yeah, is that what I have?

Yeah, and then I like Nike.

I like this.

So not $2,300 Loro Piano of special.

I do have some Lodo Piano.

I do have some.

I can

remember their name, but I do have some, but not for t-shirts.

Okay.

Right.

I have them for like dress shirts.

Oh, nice.

Yeah, so they're my favorite dress shirts.

There you go.

Yeah.

See?

What about like pants?

How do you pronounce it again?

Loro Piano.

Loro Piano.

Piano.

I never knew.

I just knew it was like the Italian company that I ordered from.

Like suits and stuff.

Where are you buying suits?

So I don't really buy suits.

So when I'm shooting Shark Tank, or was shooting Shark Tank,

the wardrobe director would come in and say, okay, time for new suits.

And they'd bring some and they'd measure me.

And I like Tom Ford because I don't have to wear a belt.

That's why I like Tom Ford.

That was the only reason, right?

I don't have to wear a belt.

I don't have all practical things because I didn't have to worry about bringing a belt.

I like Tom Ford.

Okay.

Tom Ford's suit.

See, See, I believe you.

I do.

I believe you, Mark Cuban.

It's a very down to earth.

I'm trying to find chinks in the armor.

I'm not seeing any.

This one means a lot to me, so please take it.

I'm really trying, you guys.

Okay.

I think he's a good spirit.

Car?

Car.

Favorite car.

Do you want to know what kind of car I drive?

Oh, shit.

She's going to upset me.

Guess.

Fuck.

By this smile,

I know it's not cool.

You're telling me, like, hey, guess something that's not cool.

Fuck.

Is it like a Honda Insight or something?

Kia EV6.

my God.

You're a Texan.

What are you doing?

That's your favorite car?

I like it.

I have a Tesla that I haven't sold, but

for a lot of different reasons,

it went from the Kia to the Kia.

And I've had it for like more than two years now.

This is it?

This is it.

That's the only thing you drive?

Yeah.

Get the.

What?

For real.

I like it.

I'm comfortable with it.

Okay.

Oh, my God.

What about, I mean, does your wife have a fancy car?

Does she like something fancy?

She's got a Range Rover.

That's nice.

That's good.

A hybrid Range Rover.

You may ask you the one.

Have you gotten the supercar?

Yeah, I've had a Hummer.

I've had

a Ferrari.

Porsche.

Lamborghini.

Okay.

All right.

Thank God.

I was getting upset for a minute.

But it was too loud, and it was just like.

You know, those work as almost as well as Cialis.

They can really get the blood.

Yeah, right?

Yeah.

I mean, I had the Lamborghini recently, and I got it because, and my kids gave me so much shit because luca got one yeah luca got the same one um and it was the suv that's right the urus yeah the urus right yeah and it was just too loud and i had to get gas every 17 minutes yeah you know and so it was just like no but it was a cool car it was it was beautiful um but it was just too loud and too much of a gas hog and my yeah my kids just gave me so much shit and they would go oh luca's yours oh they were like you just want luca to be your your fourth child don't you

i don't blame you dude yes luca got got a car you got the car so wait so tell me about the kia what is it what what do you all electric it's all electric yeah and i just plug it in at night and it goes has 300 mile range um you know it's got stereo system is good dude i just test drove the new all-electric escalade it has a 450 mile range that's what i'm talking about right but

yeah because i'd look at that i'm not like i like the kia and it's cheap right it's not like the price matters to me all that much but the other thing i liked about it it doesn't try to be too fancy yeah right it's got like your turn signal is like the turn signal right you turn it whereas on the Tesla you've got to find it and push the button and that's like when you're driving you you can't pay attention to the road as much and and so

the best part is so my 15 year old is learning to drive now he's got his learner's permit and so

We got my oldest daughter a Volvo when she learned to drive.

And then when she went away to college, it was passed down to my middle daughter, who is going to need it when she goes away to school.

And so my son's talking about, okay, dad, here's the kind of cars I want.

I'm like, Kia, baby.

He's like, it's not cool, dad.

And I'm like,

it's a nerd car.

I'm like, yes, it is.

Yes, it is.

He wanted some cool shit.

Yeah, but when I came down to Austin, he was like, Dad, I need to, because you guys get so many hours in.

Yeah.

Right.

You go, Dad, you need to leave the Kia so I can practice.

I'm like, oh, you're going to practice on the Kia.

So I had to take the Tesla.

Oh, nice.

So you drove here?

I didn't drive down to Austin.

I drove to the airport.

Okay, I got you.

I have a plane, remember?

Oh,

snow.

Oh, favorite plane?

I've got actually

the Bombardier and I've got a Golf Stream.

My old golf stream that I bought originally.

And so we kept it because the price was...

it wasn't worth selling.

So as a backup, because the way the planes are, once they get a little bit older and the Bombardier is only like four years old, they have to go into maintenance more often.

And so it's just easier to have four years

the fucking most baller shit I've ever heard is my backup plane is

a backup plane yeah you know

sometimes when this is getting detailed I take my backup plane

what's your death row meal my death row meal um

probably

a big-ass steak.

Nice.

Huge mountain of onion rings.

Yeah.

And then just something I'm just going to cover with cheese.

So it is like so slick.

Slow the heart down.

Oh, yeah.

Do you get your steak Pittsburgh style?

No, like I don't even eat red meat anymore.

At all?

No, like I was a vegetarian, straight vegetarian for a while, but I would starve when we'd go out to dinner.

Like I was having to eat like only sides.

So I went pescatarian.

Okay.

Do you have a favorite fish?

Salmon's probably.

Yeah.

Sea bass is good, but mostly salmon.

Okay.

Okay.

Well, I mean, those are the most important questions I think in a lot of people.

Yeah, I mean, we've covered everything.

Everything.

You have a favorite movie?

The Accountant 2, now.

Accountant 2.

Shout out Ben Affleck.

He was actually really good.

Danielle Pineda's in there.

She was a friend of ours.

She's a fantastic actress.

Cool.

I can't wait to see The Accountant 2.

It's actually really good.

All right, cool.

And go check out Mermaid.

I know I need to, but don't bring the kids.

Don't bring it.

I don't need to bring the kids.

I mean, you can bring the 21-year-old.

Yeah, bring the wife.

Yeah.

All right.

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Dude,

really.

It was a pleasure.

Thank you for coming in.

No, always.

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