#2746 RHOP S9E20 Reunion 3: Rent a Poor

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So another huge announcement. Potomac is ending today.
and it's going to be the last time we see this exact group of women for a long time, because Karen's going to be in Priz, and who knows what's happening with Mia. I don't know.
What do you think is going to happen with her? I mean, I think walking out of a reunion is probably frowned upon. It's definitely a diva move.
I don't know. I don't know.
I'm sure she'll be back, but she will probably receive a reprimand. Maybe she'll be on probation.
Maybe she'll get demoted to friend of. I'm not sure.
I don't know. What do you think? I think there was a good chance of her being fired if Karen hadn't been sent to Priz, I think.
But I don't think they're going to get rid of her now. And the thing is, they didn't really need her for the rest of the reunion.
It was kind of amusing to me how little of an impact it made that she walked out. No one seemed to care.
No one was shocked when it was announced that she was gone. It was met with a shrug.
So I think that says volumes about your place on the show. Yeah.
She only had first seat, by the way, because Karen wasn't went to rehab. There's no way that Mia's getting the first seat anyway.
So if she's thinking that she's made it in some way, that she's now a star of the show because she has that, she's sorely mistaken. Yeah, you got to show up to work, especially when you're missing somebody.
You can't just all not show up to work. What is this, Southern charm where half the cast is just like, I'm tired, and they leave.
So she leaves crying, and I'd be crying too. She might just be leaving because that dress is so tight.
I mean, my gosh, that thing looks painful. What women have to go through.
I mean, I'm considered dressed to the nines today because I have a shirt with a collar on it. Okay.
Yeah. I'm wearing a corset.
You know, it's a t-shirt corset. It's a new invention I created.
Now I could pull a man and just push my moobs up. And I think that that kind of would give me that, but the guy couldn't sit like that all day.
It's just too much. Move.
Yeah. So she's in her dress room being like, oh, you guys, get me out.
Get me out. So then back on the set, Andy has basically alerted them that the husbands will not be coming out on the set because the only husbands who've shown up are eddie and greg eddie hasn't there's no there's no need for eddie on the reunion at this point as it turns out and then no one cares about greg so they clearly nixed the husband thing which is funny because greg was bitching and moaning last episode that he could have been gallivanting around manhattan and said he had to show up at nbc to shoot a reunion god forbid yeah and kieran is like oh good greg can go home oh my gosh i'm gonna i'm about to get wore out the way i dragged greg up in here well greg's the one who claims he doesn't want to be on tv so you just did him a favor i'm not gonna listen to greg complain about it you know yeah i'm not so and he's like well stacy i I know you didn't want TJ to come today.
We had invited TJ to come. I really wanted to ask him this very important question.
Did you get any boobs? Can I feel them? Stacy's like, yes, Paul, because we're no longer together. Wendy's like, are you sure? Yes, I didn't want him to come.
Well, Eddie is here. And Eddie, as you mentioned earlier, Eddie and TJ talk.
And Eddie actually FaceTimed with TJ to see why he's not here. And TJ let Eddie know that you actually paid him to be your love interest on this season.
And TJ also told Eddie that you told him not to come. And TJ also said, run him his money, because the money is not adding up.
And TJ also said, look for him on this week's episode of The Pit in the background, the nurse that's waving at the camera. Yeah, so he really did say that.
I was shocked that this was the revelation. I'm shocked that I was shocked shocked because everybody has been saying online that this

is going to be the revelation but i i was surprised that it was actually that i thought they were going to kind of miss out in the end and be like oh tj says he's got a big wiener you know and that was going to be the big thing but apparently yeah he's accusing her of paying him which tj you're an under five bitch if someone is paying you keep your mouth shut and keep getting the money I don't believe it, EJ.

What do you think?

Yeah.

Gosh, it's hard.

First of all i thought it was going to be um a new the birth of a new controversy uh i did not think we were going to go back to kenya and walter but we did and it's fine um tj i don't know like i don't believe anything tj says um i i think it's i think tj has more of a motivation to lie than um than stacy does i think tj was humiliated on tv because everyone made fun of him he looked like an idiot he sounds like an idiot he was an idiot and um i think then he i think that tj also was riding the stacy train to get onto tv and then when she said you know what i don't think i like you anymore because like i think you're shitty uh he realizes his path to fame has been destroyed and the narcissist that he is because we all know that he's a narcissist, we can see this, right?

He is going to now, he's going to retaliate.

And I think that actually is like, it's totally viable that he's lying and he's just saying, you know, he's going to say this to cover, to clean up his reputation.

Like everything you saw was fake.

I was paid.

I was paid to do all this.

I'm actually a different kind of guy.

Well, congratulations. You're basically a whore.
Yeah, exactly. That was kind of the way I don't know.
I'm like, who brags about being paid to pretend they're somebody's boyfriend? It just makes you even more terrible. And I am with you.
I believe that he is not believable. I'm not going to believe TJ.
TJ was a piece of shit this whole season, and I'm glad that Stacey makes the point later of how are you going to say that that guy's a piece of shit the whole time, but now that he says one thing, you all believe him. You're all going to believe him over me.
I agree with that. I think TJ's a piece of shit, and I'm not going to start believing him now.
I think that he got really upset with looking stupid on TV, but that's his own fault. Nobody edited that.
And even if they did, she's not an editor. She's a person on the show who is treating like shit.
So fuck that guy. And he also shows he's a bad business partner because he now has complained.
Because, by the way, the season's not over. And I feel like if there was an arrangement, then he should have, like, I'm sure the arrangement, I don't know.
know like i'm gonna defend her even if he she did pay him but i would not be surprised that is if he being the asshole that he is is like well i'll come on the show if she says i would love it if you come on the show with me and he's like well but you're getting you're getting paid to do this and like i'm getting nothing for this and she says fine i'll give you a cut or something like that like i'll throw you something as compensation for your time and your energy um not like hey let's i'm going to hire you to be my boyfriend it's like i'll i'll kick something back at you because you are taking time out of your day you're not doing auditions you're you're doing you're shooting a scene with me i mean she shouldn't have to do that but i would not be surprised if she did that why she was fair and stuff right which is why she was hesitant that to sort of like call him up and because she's like i don't know how he's gonna ding me because like there's a there are some gray areas i would not be surprised if that were the case but it doesn't matter because even if she does fully pay him if she has paid him i'm gonna defend her because if she did she if she has been paying him i that's great. Because I love that Stacey is playing the role of this woman who is easily clutching her pearls, but then at the same time is doing something ridiculous and shady.
I love that. I love that in My Real Housewives.
Well, she was really ready for reality TV if she's going to just immediately pay somebody her first season. That's crazy.
But here's the question this leads me to. Whatever happened to Whore HIPAA? I mean, when are whores supposed to go tell everybody that they whored with you? I mean, Whore HIPAA.
We need it in law. I don't know.
I mean, I know whoring is illegal, but it shouldn't be. First of all, that's a completely legitimate job.
I'd do it if I could. If my boobs stood to attention, I'd be whoring out there right now instead of talking about whoring.
But whatever happened to whore HIPAA, I don't like this. And we had the same thing.
And this is not a whore, but this is stripper HIPAA, stripper HIPAA

on that Salt Lake City show when that lady was like, oh, you know how I have five sisters and

they're all strippers at this club? Yeah. I know none of you watched it, so I'll explain it.
So

this lady comes and she's like, well, that Mormon comes to the strip club and my sister has all the

Thank you. all strippers at this club yeah i know none of you watched it so i'll explain it so this lady comes and she's like well that mormon comes to the strip club and my sister has all the receipts to prove what kind of stripper are you you got your money keep your mouth shut i mean this is ridiculous i don't like it i feel like whenever we take money for stuff like that we should be quiet there shouldppocratic, the Dickocratic oath.
Take that. Now, at first I was thinking to myself, okay, TJ, well, the reunion has just aired.
Are you going to show the receipts if this happened? Where are the receipts? But knowing him, he's probably trying to peddle it into an article for us or people because that's just what he's, that's what people like him are like. But yeah, you are compl in this sir if she paid you you accepted the payment as well like just know that you can you can get mad at her being like oh she begged me to be on the show you accepted the position and you accepted the position because you probably had some sort of friendship with her or whatever and um obviously um you were shitty because you if you did have a friendship with her that's shitty that you accepted payment from her to be on her show instead of helping her out.
And, um, obviously, um, you were shitty because you, if you did have a friendship with her, that's shitty that you accepted payment from her to be on her instead of helping her out. And your role on this show was just as successful as your acting career.
You failed. Okay.
You failed. You won season wonder.
Okay. This is what happens when you give this guy more than five lines.
And now he's going to play. And now what he's going to do is he's going to say, well, she should be thanking me because of this, I gave her a storyline for next season.
You know he's going to do that. Except she's not going to use him as a story.
I mean, the other ladies will, but. Well, it's more likely.
And then the other ladies, who are they to talk? You've got Giselle, who brought Jamal on to, pretended she was back with him. Then she's paid at least two people.

Remember that guy who was getting blowjobs in the park?

And then what was the other guy?

Giselle's never had a real boyfriend.

I mean, who are we fucking kidding?

Ashley with Beavis or whatever.

Ashley with like, I don't believe any of these people.

And what's the difference?

You're using Michael for, I don't know.

I didn't like it. I mostly like this lady.
And I think she dealt with all of this very well. But I guess we're going to be talking about this for another two hours.
So we should just go through it. So Kierna, who has never said more than she has in the past five minutes, is like, I said this.
I said this was what happened. Yeah, you and the entire internet were saying it you know and so wendy's like well

she brought tj on and she hired tj and she paid him some money and she still owes him a lot of money it's a big week for tj's selling wiener on problem you owe him back money yeah for pretending to be a boyfriend uh stacy's like let me say this right now okay let me say and so she's going into So like she's doing quiet panic and Giselle's like, oh, so we're pretending.

I absolutely do not believe anything that you're saying TJ would never say that um which is sort of a funny thing like it's funny that her first response is not I never paid him her. Her first response is, TJ would never say that, right?

That I did think was a little strange.

I don't know why that's not what her choice was.

Yeah, because like you said, maybe she gave him money for plane tickets, and you know she paid for dinner.

That man has no money.

So you know she paid for a lot of stuff with TJ.

So she's like, well, what could be considered paying somebody to come on a show, you know?

Exactly.

She doesn't want to commit to saying, I never paid him. She just wants to commit to saying he would never say that.
So now, of course. But I mean, look, it's the same thing.
Like dating an actor is the same thing. And even if you're dating a successful actor, frankly, because they don't want to pay for shit either.
I mean, Lisa Rinna's husband works all the time. She don't like to pay for anything.
You know, I think I that and that's just a random example i pulled out uh but actors do like our famous i guess i pulled it out because of the sudden thing like he didn't pay for the elton john oscar party but of course she didn't she's an actor and actors do not like to pay it's like if you're dating a podcaster let me tell you who's dating me anybody who wants to pay for my old navy that's it i'm not paying for that if i'm dating somebody you are getting these moves and this wiener okay I need at least your old navy super cash so Wendy's like TJ said that to Eddie on FaceTime okay they're gonna run it baby they're gonna run it and Kieran's like TJ was acting like a being actor and he's like control room control room do you have that on camera did that happen hold on did it happen so andy's like okay everyone i just asked the control room stacy if they had that on camera and apparently it happened while we were here with mia um she's basically like it's gonna come he's like and i have a feeling they're gonna roll it in three two one and then they all sit there and they're like what's happening andy he's like sorry that was a jufer in the show and you're watching at home oh well we are ready to see it and she's like show me the tape show me the tape i just don't believe another question is if tj was being paid then why was he like being emotionally abusive blatantly on camera? I mean, what kind of employee is that? Because he's still an actor and he wants attention. So if he is being paid, he's like, excuse me, I read my sides for today and this was not part of the script.
Okay, I'm supposed to be by your side. That's what's in the sides um all day long at this party and you left me with ray to talk about you know commodore 64s so uh he's like that was not cool i wasn't prepared for that i didn't prepare for that yeah so they're all demanding that they see it and he's like well the problem is the camera that has the thing in it, the film or whatever, that's shooting Mia.
So thirsty ass Mia still, she walks out of the reunion and she's still taking up too much space. She's not even here and she's taking up space.
And then we cut to Mia and Mia's like, I'm leaving. I never should have.
They never should have. But I never should have put myself in a position where they could talk about my motherhood.
And she's, like, running all over the room, and her poor gay is following her around, just trying to undo the straps on that dress. He spent all morning shoving her into, you know, he had to sit on her like a suitcase to get her into that thing.
He was just like, oh, this is how ladies get their suitcases close like cameron from real housewives

of dallas just like tying that thing yeah um the fact that she was like that she was in that corset and he's sitting there trying to unknot these ties in the back and she's just like walking into a different room and he's having to follow her i was like this is the definition definition of what we gays have to go through sometimes.

So, meanwhile,

this is also

why they let Mia go they're like okay we're gonna let mia go so we can free up that camera and get that footage so yeah well they said they should have just told mia we're not following your gay around with his corset strings okay you're done we're taking the camera back they're like sue come over here with, film me. Okay, we're taking the big camera back into the control room.
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So Wendy is like,

you have called this man repeatedly your best friend.

He's my best friend.

That's not a best friend.

Your best friend is not gonna lie on you.

So he's telling the truth

and he says he wants his money.

You're in arrears. And so Stacey's like, it doesn't matter how many times you say it, Wendy.
You're in arrears. I want to see it.
I want to see it. You're in arrears.
She keeps saying you're in arrears. But also, I like that Wendy always turns into a lawyer when she's got a point.
Like, well, here's my evidence. You said he's your friend and the best friend wouldn't lie you're on housewives best friends lie on you all the time what are you talking about she does that does not stand at that point she also starts pointing with all five of her fingers she goes okay and she like takes her palm and she rotates it a little bit to the right and then she starts pointing with it it.
It's like a little fin. I love when she does that.
So, Andy's like, you want to call TJ? Call TJ! Andy loves this shit. You know, it's like Andy's favorite thing to happen.
And she's like, I absolutely do not want to call TJ! So, they all start demanding it and yelling at her, like, you better call TJ! And she's like, why would I entertain a lie? So he's like, well, why would she say it? And he's like, everybody, hold on. I'm the messy one here right now.
You want to call TJ? Let's ask him about his boob job. Come on.
And Stacy's like, well, I would love to see the tape because I'm not going to speak on something that I know is a lie. Well, they're not going to, the control room's not going to lie to me.
And Kieran was like, how much did you pay? Okay, hold on, hold on. Control room, is there technically a way for us to show this to her? And he's like, no, not at the moment.
Later? Okay, great. We're going to tease this out.
Because, by the way, they could have just edited this and gone right to it. But they're like, wait a second.
We just realized we have our third hour here. So now they're going to give us every beat of this moment.
This is literally the whole hour. So if everybody wants to hear the end, that's how it ends.
It's just this for another hour. But I was cracking up the whole time.
So all they really need to do, first of all, don't play to mia's hand anymore i think they should say mia we've got an old man out here waiting for a steak and a lobster he's got a couple of hundies in his palm and just have her come back out take the shit out the camera and show me the footage okay stop playing to mia it's making me crazy so they're still going back it's like oh my god oh now we see mia finally walking out and uh she's like how do i get out of here how do i get out of here and uh so she can't find the door it's like watching severance she had to make like a little map a little map on a napkin so wendy is like uh stacy stop while you're ahead of it it's that's all i'm gonna say stop and And Giselle's like, you busted legs wide open, honey. So Stacy's like, can I ask a question?

Why on earth would I sit here and say, like less than an hour ago, he's one of the best people that I know? And Giselle's like, because it falls in line with everything else. But I say that he's one of the best people that I know because he is.
And this was just completely unexpected. It just was not part of the contract that he was ever going to bring this up on camera.
That's probably why she doesn't want to call him. Because it's like, if she is paying him, it's like, okay, you get X amount per episode.
And if she calls him, that means he gets to say this is part of an episode. So she's like, I stand in my truth.
Show me the tape. And they're like, oh, and Wendy just goes, the way they're going to roll the tape on you, Stacey.
Oh, the way they're going to roll the tape. And so they're like, okay, we'll come up with another story.
And they're just all badgering her about it. So Andy asks for Eddie to come out.
And they all start chanting, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie. Bring Eddie out.
So they talk to Karen's picture. And they're like, oh, I know, Karen, you're probably missing this, right? And Kieran goes, you've been vindicated, Karen.
How does that vindicate Karen? None of this vindicates Karen, Kieran, but keep trying. Well, because Karen turned on Stacey in the final two episodes, so that would be the vindication.
So Andy's like, all right, comes eddie so eddie gets first chair because they still haven't bothered to move wendy and stacy and jacqueline down the sofa so there's been a gap this whole time so eddie gets first chair and everyone's like eddie yay he's like all right eddie come have a seat he's like whoa wow why am i here it's like eddie have a seat you seem certainly happy ha ha ha and uh wendy's like ed whoa, wow, why am I here? He's like, Eddie, have a seat. You seem certainly happy.
Ha, ha, ha. And Wendy's like, Eddie, the first husband in history to get first chair.
And he's like, no, actually, no, it's not. But nice drive.
Okay, sit down, Eddie. Eddie.
And so they ask him about this. And he's like, well, he said he wasn't invited.
And he said he's never going to be in dc again because someone owes his money and stacy's like who who who owes him money he's like uh you and she's like i don't believe it he's like yeah well he said that she paid him to here. He said she paid him to be on the reunion or the show.
Let's get to specifically, because we're going to make two separate phone calls about this later. And he's like, no, I didn't get that level of detail.
But he said she paid him. So Stacey's like, I pay him to be my best friend.
And Stacey's like, and I owe him money. That's what TJ said to you.
It's like, yeah. And in, in a nutshell, basically, and Jacqueline goes, well, that's not very Christian.
Like, okay, Jacqueline, which is true though, because TJ is like purportedly this super Christian. Look, if he's being paid to play a character and then maybe he's not very christian but uh it seems like he is being very christian and uh so uh that's that is not very christian like but i took this as jacqueline telling her that's not very christian like i think she was saying it to um what's her buns um you know who i mean stacy i think she was saying that's not very christian like because just like, speak on that, speak on that, Jacqueline.
And so Eddie's like, well, I called him because we just wanted to know where he was. It wasn't anything messy at all, you know, which is why we were waiting for the cameras to be there in the men's dressing room when we called him to get this all on camera.
Like, I don't necessarily believe him either, you know. So he's like, you know, and we're like, are you there? And he said he's tired of this narrative that was being painted of him, being this flamboyant person, and being, listen, you're the person who painted that picture.
You're the one who showed up on Watch What Happens Live in your gay pride shirt. Get out of here.
I was painting that picture, but you, sir, okay? If you don't like it, put down the finger paints. Yeah, you seemed really very happy to take that opportunity to be a bartender.

Okay, Mr. Shear.

So then Eddie's basically saying that he didn't get the details.

So Andy's like, well, did he say

she owes him money or did he say

she owes him money for appearing on the show with him?

Does he accept Venmo or is it

Zelle? How does this work?

And so Andy's

like, I really don't know. I don't have any more answers.
Okay, all right, I have a question. What kind of shirt was he wearing in the FaceTime? Because that man's like, if he has a nice shirt, that shows that he may have money, so we know he's getting paid by.
So he's like, I don't have any more details. I can't give you any more details about this.
I like that Andy just keeps going. He's like, well, okay.

Did you

ever loan TJ money for groceries?

No? Okay. Did you ever

play poker with TJ and possibly

not give him his payout? Has

TJ ever bought a scratch-off ticket that you

bought that maybe was $5 and now

there's a... I'm just buying any money.

Is there any money that you

owe TJ? When you guys go out to dinner,

are you like,

we'll split it, but I'll take care of the tip. Is that what we're talking about here? What's the degree here of the payment? And she's like, I don't owe him any money.
I just don't understand what capacity I could owe him money. I mean, I didn't like the relationship because of the pressure, and that's why I got out, so maybe he's upset about

that. I just can't imagine him

saying this stuff because it's just not true,

and I just wholeheartedly

don't believe it. And Wendy's

like, oh, you still don't believe it?

You still don't believe it? And she's like,

it's not true, Wendy!

But why would

he lie to Eddie?

Because, by the way, guys also lie about shit to protect their fragile egos all the time just watch southern charm that's currently airing and you'll see men lying to themselves about reality so uh kiana's business she's like uh so you're saying that tj is lying and she's like i'm not saying that Eddie is lying. I'm just saying whatever this is, I don't believe it.
I'm saying that TJ is hurt and he's not here and we are not together. And you know who else is not here? Arabella.
And she is going to be the one who gets hurt the most. So it's like, oh, so he's just making stuff up? Yes, that's what pieces of shit little bottom-feeding users do when they are cut off from attention.

Look at him getting himself more attention on TV.

So Eddie's like, well, you know, I would say it didn't sound like he was upset he wasn't here and you guys aren't together.

He was upset because of, A, the story that's being painted of him, which, again, that's his own fault.

And, B, you know, you were doing dealings with him that he was unhappy with yeah well did he tell you that i paid him to be on the show because andy asked you that question just a moment ago and your answer was yes so then eddie's phone rings and they're like oh my god it's funny we're gonna include every single detail of this so then eddie's like no i don't he basically is like he just told me that you paid him to be on the show and she goes well that's not what you said five minutes ago he's like five minutes ago i said the exact same thing he's like look i wasn't calling to be messy with him i was just going to say bro where are you yeah because if yeah so stacy's like well i love wendy and out love for you, I have a certain amount of respect for your husband, even though I really don't understand his sports coat right now. But I just don't know you to be liars, I just, and I don't think you would make things up for clout.
But it's just not true. And if TJ is here, I invite him to come here and say them to my face, I'll pay for his plane ticket.
And Wendy's like, well well, call him right now on FaceTime. And she's like, we are no longer together, and I don't owe him a call.
So they're like, well, wait a minute. So why would you be okay with him showing up, but you wouldn't be okay with a call? Well, I don't have an unlimited plan, okay? No, like, well, Bill, you know, because, like, if you're saying that you don't take our word and then the only person will take is his, and he's like, yeah, why not call him right now? This could be television magic.
Call him, call him. And Stacey's like, I am not calling him, but your character's in question, nah.
So, well, that's you. It's like, okay, all right, all right.
We're just going to leave it there. Can we all give Eddie Asifo a round of applause? Okay, great, Eddie, okay.
Now, when you go back into your dressing room, here is a Kit Kat wrapper. I've crushed it up into a ball.
Could you throw it at Greg's face and say, ha, ha, no TV time for you? So Wendy's like, yeah, Eddie, whistle downown. And he's like, I'm Eddie the Whistleblower.
So they're applauding him. And Giselle's like, Well, he just came and told the truth.
And Ashley's like, Well, for the record, I mean, there's nothing wrong with it, you know? If you felt like you wanted to get on the show and, you know, you needed a storyline, like, who hasn't paid for a storyline or two and let me tell you one thing ashley darby let me say it's that you can hear me i didn't need tj to get on this platform or any any person because i could have been like karen huger and just gotten a dui instead and she's like let me be clear i don't need an accessory and i'm not going to say it again. And she's just like, nobody believes you.
Nobody believes you. And she's like, the world won't believe you either.
She's like, I don't care. Well, you could squash it very quickly if you called him.
Call him. She's like, well, I'm sure that I could just call him for everyone's benefit here.
They're like, no, it's for your benefit. Listen, I'm just saying that as your friend who loves you, okay, if you come back to this group and you bring up this topic again and you say it never happened or TJ cleared it up, understand none of these women, nobody's going to believe you.
And your character and who you are will always be questioned because you had the opportunity cleared up and you didn't take it. And I say that with love.
And I'm not bullying you. I'm just reminding you that you're being a total idiot right now on TV.
I stand in my truth! And Andy's like, well, the control room, who can't even seem to wrestle the tape out of Mia's cleavage, is telling me that he did say it. So, come on.
Control room? Right now? What? Right now? Down the well? Where? Lassie? Where? Okay, okay. They're going to bring it out on my phone, okay? And I'm going to show it to you.
She's like, I stand in my truth. Show me the tape.
So, they bring out the phone. By the way, I just want to say, Mia has left the building.
Does anyone care? No. Okay, great.
Thanks, everyone. So, yeah.
He's like, you want to come over here? She's like, I can't stand up in this dress handy. And if I go bend down over you, my boobs are going to fall all over your face.
And he's like, okay, I'll go sit next to you. And now she's like, what about me? I can't get up either.
Well, what about me? I can't get up either. It's like no one can move.
And you just have to scoot them all over to get them in position. And Andy is so excited because normally he'd be like, can we get someone in here to help her move next to me? Because he's not going to move, but he's like, this is a moment.
I'm so excited. I want to sit right next to her.
I want to feel her breath on my shoulders as she gasps as she watches this. So he gets right in there.
So, and he's like, okay, here we go. Are you ready to watch? Okay.
So she's like, okay, well, this is just a shirtless man with a large dick. Wasn't this guy behind your bar, but the other day, sorry, we sorry we're on grinder let me move on to the okay here we go here's the video all right so we see the and meanwhile ashley's over there messing with her dress because she's got this big dress with like tinfoil coming out that girl looks like when you you know when you take food home from a restaurant and it's wrapped in tinfoil and you're like i'm gonna save this for tomorrow but then you're kind of drunk and you just rip it open and just start binging out of it.
That's what Ashley looks like. She looks like a piece of chicken that she couldn't help eating at like two in the morning.
So he shows her the tape and it's, you know, we've seen most of this. And he's like, well, I'm not ever going to be in DC again.
You know, she's paying me to do the show, man. And everyone's like, what? And Stacey goes,

I didn't hear that. What did he say? And they're like, oh, for Christ's sake.
So they have to rewind it so she can really get it through her head that he said it. And he says it again.
You know she's paying me to do the show. Like, come on, you got to talk to that girl.
Tell her to give me my money. Wow.
It's also like such a douchey thing to do. Like, it's so like, even if It's true.
It's so douchey.

And he's also totally

like his code... Wow.
It's also such a douchey thing to do. Even if it's true, it's so douchey.
And he's also totally... His code switching between bro and Stacey's boyfriend is so obnoxious.
I mean, we all code switch around different people. I definitely act gayer when I'm around the gays.
I act a little bit more bro-y when I'm around bros. People do it based on different groups.
So I get it. People do that.
But this code switching between bro and TJ that we've seen, it goes beyond code switching. It just goes into fakery.
It is no longer in the realm of code switching. This is just someone who is putting on a front.
And this just reads like a guy who's just trying to impress the bros and trying to be like, yo, fuck that bitch. Am I right, bros? She's fucking paying me, right? Hey, bro, fuck that show.
I'm a bro. I'm just like, oh, gosh.
Just go away forever, TJ. So TJ's like, she's whack, man.
So that's it. So he gets off.

And Annie's like, wow, he called you whack.

That's the worst thing I've ever heard.

And Jacqueline goes, oh, wow.

So you were calling Mia and Mia liar?

And they're like, oh, no, you're liars too.

She goes, yeah, Mia is a liar.

So whatever.

That doesn't negate Mia being a liar. Sorry.
Nice try, though. So, Stacey's like, and Kieran is like, so that's your best friend.
And Stacey's like, well, it's one thing to see someone disrespect you and make you question your relationship. But this is hurtful.
It's just so very hurtful. That's all I can say.
I just can't imagine him saying that this is AI. This is AI.
So, I was, ma'am. So, and he's like, well, you heard him say it.
I absolutely heard him say that. And I can't believe that my ears are betraying me in this way.
I have to see a doctor because there's just no way he would ever say it. So at this point, it's my eardrums.
So she's like, you know, I can't believe someone who prides themselves on being a man of God and being honest. And someone I think loves me, even if we're not together, to say that.
I've never paid him a dime, and I've never owed him anything. And Ashley, meanwhile, is like, do you think she uses Cash App or Zelle, Venmo? I mean, what is it? And Stacey's like, I'm hurt.
So he's like, okay, well, did you say if you come shoot with me i'll pay your expenses and she's like i've never paid him it's just not true i just it's not true well for the record can i just say you can feel how you want to feel and i'm sorry you're going through it but most importantly my husband did not lie and she just i was like wendy this is not about eddie yeah well i'm just saying like i always got to clear my husband's name you know what i mean well i just feel like the rug has been pulled out from under me i don't even know what to say well so is tj gonna have any venmozelle receipts because once he puts those on instagram ma especially once it's airs what's gonna happen and everyone's like yeah the receipts are coming but i never paid him in any capacity oh really have you promised to pay him never um so is he gonna have text messages babe they're all kind of like hey we've been down this path before this is your first time but we know you're taking a stance now but there will be receipts that come back to hit you if you're lying so this is your chance to get ahead of it it's like why is he doing this to you and why would he call you whack that's just so mean and uh he's like yeah it is mean i just don't get it and you know let me tell you this hurt people hurt people everyone's shut up. This is bullshit.
You need to stop. And so, Stacey, this is when Stacey brings up her, you know, listen, you all had doubts about TJ.
And you speak very poorly of him. But now when he gives you something salacious to use against me, suddenly he's like the pinnacle of truth.
So, what the fuck? And you're going to believe him over me. And Andy goes, oh, I thought you were going to say you you guys were right about tj i mean don't you think this is the moment we could have stacy apologize to the no she doesn't owe them anything i think they're being monsters i think this lady at least is owed the benefit of the doubt yeah i mean she is i mean even even if she winds up you know lying she is owed the benefit of the doubt over tj it is and it was think we all thought she was going to say, you know, you guys were always coming down on TJ.
And in the end, it turns out you're right. He is a piece of shit.
We all thought that's what she was going to say. But instead, it wasn't wrong what she said, saying you guys all came down on him.
But then, you know, when it's his word versus mine, you take his side. It's also an equally fair thing to say.
So Stacey's just saying like, I can't clear up something I can't make sense of. So anyway, we go to a flashback of Wendy just trying to, again, hammer it through her head that like, if you say nothing, if you say nothing happened, like, we're going to think you're a liar.
does happen you know so like this is like your

chance she's like look i do not look crazy and i can't clear up something that i can't explain

i can't explain this so he's like so they're like call him call him call him she goes i absolutely

will be calling him with my attorney and they're like oh geez come Commercials. Here comes one right now.

Now it's the next segment.

And Kieran is like, yeah, these crystals are eating my ass up.

Everyone is dressed so uncomfortably.

So then he's asking Stacy what the best-selling item is that she ever sold on QVC. And she's like, jeans, because I was wearing them.
And he's like, yeah, really? And she goes, well, the only other thing I ever sold was a beard. Those went pretty well, because I use those as well.
Wait a minute! I'm sorry, did I say that? It's just not true! All right, well, earlier this year, a car accident and a DUI arrest left Karen injured and Potomac shaken.

And while Karen was tight-lipped about her ongoing legal situation, she was very open to putting other people's business on blast.

Ha ha ha.

Well, guess what?

Now she's been found guilty of drunk driving.

And instead of answering for her behavior today, she went to a recovery center, which we all support, even though she's totally not answering for her behavior, but we totally support the recovery center. Just had to say that part once again.
So it's the Karen's drunk segment again, because we've already had the segment, but let's do it again. Why not? So Giselle's saying that she was just shocked and then we see a clip of her and uh karen at lunch and um giselle's saying well you're gonna go to court at some point or did you already go to court and she goes well you can read the newspapers lost magazine new york times whatever you'd like i'm in all of them and she's like well, well, I'm just, I'm not trying to be messy.

And then the waiter comes over and he's like,

this woman, Karen, has never had a drink

here, ever, ever!

We also don't have a liquor license, but

the Tally Ho waiter.

The character we have from the Tally Ho.

So we see

this lengthy

segment, because they're basically like, look, we edited together this segment, segment and we're gonna air it even if karen's not here okay we're gonna make sure that this happens because it is very very lengthy like i'm actually scrolling through quite really is i'm scrolling through it right now like damn okay back to the all right well karen's case is now closed and the verdict has been decided as of this taping her sentencing won't be known for another few weeks. But while Karen isn't here, there's still a lot of questions that viewers had that should be discussed.
So, for instance, Graham from Cracker said, We saw Karen deny having a drinking problem and abstaining from drinking on camera, but hasn't it been alluded to through a lot of serious... Has anyone here seen this side of karen what i'm trying to say is that she's an alcoholic can you back me up they're all like yes karen's a drunk everybody knows anyone with a tv knows this and he's like well but do you think that she had a drinking problem or do you think that she has a drinking problem those are your choices okay uh so basically i think he's saying do you think she had one or that she has one? And she's like, well...
Or have you seen this before? Yeah, Ashley's like, well, she uses alcohol to cope with some of her difficulties, which is not a drinking problem. Okay? That's like seeing a hole in your wall and putting spackle in it.
Okay? It's just doing what needs to be done.

Sure. So they're like, yeah, yeah.
I was going to say, Jacqueline, you received the most anger from Karen because you referenced her drinking. And we see Jacqueline getting it.
How did you feel after watching this back? She goes, thank you for finally asking me a question. I've been on this sofa for about an episode and a half.
so to be very crystal clear

I mean I don't want to be too heavy

with this so I guess I'll be crystal light. Mia threw me under the bus and talked about our private conversation, so this is really Mia's fault why Karen was mad at me.
And they're like, okay, come on, Jacqueline, you did say it, though. Yeah, she's like, well, I said it to Giselle, so then we see the clip of her telling the whole party.
Well, she called me and she was a little litty. And so Jacqueline was like, well, I wasn't being malicious.
And then she dragged me the entire season over that one little piece of conversation. I was just out of concern.
So I agree that Karen went too hard on her for that. But listen, an alcoholic is not going to like you talking about their alcoholism.
Okay? until they say they're an alcoholic and then that's all they want to talk about okay once you say i'm an alcoholic then you never shut the fuck up about it for the rest of your life okay but we're not there yet so then well yeah and also karen was like oh i found someone i can be who could be my punching bag i can make this like this is gonna be who i can deflect onto the whole season, too. Right.
So she's like, I wasn't being malicious. And Giselle says, yeah,

you know, but her problem was she was supposed to be going to court during filming, and all of this

stuff could have been used against her. And so that's why she was pissed.
So Wendy's like,

Giselle, I would agree with you, but we know that Karen continuously pushed her court case back,

and I found that odd, because I would have rather gone to court before the show aired.

Thank you. I would agree with you, but we know that Karen continuously pushed her court case back, and I found that odd, because I would have rather gone to court before the show aired.

Well, she was doing that so you guys couldn't use it against her on camera the whole time, you know?

I think.

Also, it's clear that Karen had terrible legal counsel.

Let's not overlook that part, which is about to be discussed very shortly.

Yeah, so then we talk about the balloons, Jacqueline bringing the balloons, and she wasn't being shady. She was just there in peace, which is, of course, bullshit.
And she's like, well, initially, you know, it was because she came after my child's father. Oh, Lord.
And then it was like, but then at first I came there to be shady, but then it actually became a beautiful thing. Okay, wait, so you were trying to be shady? She's like, no, no, it was gonna be a lovely moment.
So we see a flashback

of that, and she says, well, I just

I felt like that was really dirty work

of Karen. However, I switched things up.

I wanted it to be positive. All right.

But by the way, did she wind up

suing you for ruining the environment?

Now that's a court case I would like to see on TV. This why they can't fire karen no matter what that shit's hilarious uh so then he's like okay we're gonna move on you're boring so uh kiana you've been a close karen ally do you regret defending her she's like well you know i have a social work clinic with greg and so it would have been nice if she had just come to that.
Would you stop trying to plug? What do you guys get out of this social work company? How much money are you making that you need to plug it this much? Is it like premium social work? We're going to come pick the children, but we're going to do it wearing a suit, and we're going to feed them very nice fruit roll-ups in the car. What is this white glove fucking social work stuff? She's like, you know, a real friend would have helped me promote my social work.
She should have entered our 12-step program. I had a polo shirt ready for her.
A free polo shirt for Karen Huger. And he's like, okay, well, why do you guys all think Karen decided to take this case to trial? And Ashley's like, well, I mean, Karen had terrible to you, and so I say that as someone who's been in a five-year divorce from Michael Darby and was actually married to him in the first place.
Someone who takes terrible advice. And I say this, but knowing that footage was out there, who would advise that you take a public trial? And Stacy says, well, maybe she didn't remember what happened.
Show me the tape! And they're thinking that's the first time she saw it. And Wendy's like, well, weeks ago, it was reported that head counsel asked for the footage.
So they had the footage. And I'm with Wendy on this one, because I don't believe that there's a piece of footage on Earth that Karen is in that Karen is not going to watch.
I think that she would be like, you've got more footage of me it's the drunk driving episode let's watch and i look amazing during that can we use a little bit of clip of that for get the thomas jefferson's concubine and let's just use that clip for instagram i look amazing hashtag home goods just in case it's literally like faye done away on that voicemail where sheail, where she was like yelling at the reporter

for writing a bad profile of her in the New York Times

or something.

She's like, what about me?

You know, I was in, I was in, you know,

I was in Jaws 45.

I was excellent at that.

I mean, that's Karen Uyghur is basically like

Bravo's version of Faye Dunaway.

It's not an exact quote, but you know.

Faye put away.

So Giselle's like, well, it's delusion. You know, she pushed it, and she didn't want to take any deal.
And Andy goes, what? She was offered a deal? And she was offered two deals. And Giselle heard that it was six months house arrest or 60 days jail.
And Andy's like, I want to take a house arrest. I love my house.
Everyone's like, yeah, how could you not take that?

Wendy's like, I would bedazzle

my little ankle bracelet in style.

And she'd probably make all her kids wear a matching ankle bracelet

because that's what she does.

So Giselle's like, well, now her lawyer

did not tell me this. I just want to put that out there.

I did not hear from the lawyer.

I want that out there, but I just heard it

credibly through someone named

Shmarina. And she's like, alright,

well, something that probably didn't age

too well for Cameron was when she said

Thank you. want that out there, but I just heard it credibly through someone named Schmarina.
And he's like, all right, well, something that probably didn't age too well for Karen was when she said clankety clank. And as proof that didn't age well, let's play that.
So we see Karen. So we see the clankety clank, bitch, clankety clank.
And so he's like, vindication, Ashley. And Ashley's like, well, of course, you know, I did think about that in my mind.
But, you know, nothing's great. But one of the things I wanted to ask her here today, and, you know, maybe I should talk to her picture.
Hi, picture. So one of the journalists told me that.
OK, so she's saying that there had been a person driving the car or in the car with Karen who was actually driving the vehicle. This is what a journalist told her.
And so we see the body cam footage and Karen does say that in the footage. She's like, well, you know, Ray, this is the security that you got me.
And that's your fault, Ray, because they actually fled the scene. Which I think was Karen just lying then to get herself out of you.
Yeah. So then Ashley says she got called by a journalist.
Diane Sawyer called up and was like, hey, we heard there was another man in the car. Ashley's thinking, this is interesting because a journalist heard this too.
But where do you think the journalist heard it from? Karen, probably. This doesn't validate anything.
And he's like, okay, all right, well, that's's fun Fast Casual from Culver City said the biggest mystery is where was Karen before the accident she said she was getting drinks with her girlfriends but no girlfriends came forward and testified so Giselle's like says that she thinks that Karen was at a restaurant four minutes from the house and you know Andy's like, but it's so easy to get an Uber. It's so easy.
And so Wendy's like, I'm not going to say anything. I'm not going to say anything.
I'm not going to say anything. Never mind.
I'm not going to say anything. Please don't ask me anymore.
I will not say a thing. I'm a good person and I will not say this thing.
And so they're like, wow, Wendy's strong, huh? So Andy's like, okay, well, we're going to leave it there.

Jacqueline, thank you for the nothing that you bring to this show.

Please leave.

And she's like, bye, everybody.

I'm not a liar.

You're a liar.

Okay, welcome back.

We're going to wrap things up.

Just kidding.

It's going to be another 45 minutes of this episode. But we want to show a scene that Karen shot.

It's extremely important and very personal.

Let's roll the tape of Karen. And Stacey's like, show me the footage! Wait real quickly before we press play, Stacey, you want to call DJ? No? That's not a try.
Hey Stacey! Alright, let's play the footage. I'm a man, I'm a man, and I'm sick of bullshit.
Cause I'm a man who's sick of bullshit. I'm sorry.
That was Dr. Greg from Mary to medicine.
I'm a man and I'm sick of bullshit. Can we roll the proper footage, please? So, uh, watch that last night.
I didn't know. I have not watched it yet.
Was he singing? He wasn't singing. Greg started a fight with Quad's new boyfriend on their vacation.
And the boyfriend came running after Greg to beat him up. But they separated him.
He never touched Greg. But Greg still filed a police report against this guy to try and get him to go to jail.
And they're like, Greg, it's not battery if he didn't touch you. He's like, well, there's a law.
It's called thinking of battery.

And so they got me on.

I'm going to get him on thinking of battery and he's going to go to prison.

And you guys, I'm very sad about it.

And so I did something.

I got creative and I wrote a song.

He's just like, as he whips up, he whips up his phone.

And he's singing, he's written a song and he's like, I'm a man and I'm under stress and I'm sick of bullshit. I'm sick of some bullshit.
How is this guy a psychologist or a psychiatrist? He has such small dick energy. I mean, the fact, again, that he challenged the NFL player to a push-up contest.
I mean, ugh. He's been the worst since the the beginning of that show and he did a song also um do the do like laws about assault do laws about assault and battery even qualify if it happened in a foreign country because they were in a foreign country right aren't they in the bahamas or j? They're in the Caribbean.
They're not in America. You can't press charges about an assault that happened in a different country.
I don't think. I mean, I could be wrong, especially when the assault didn't happen.
Come on, Dr. Gregory.
Jeez, that guy is the worst. He is the worst.
I didn't watch it because I was watching the Oscars. You just assaulted me.
I was watching the Oscars. What a loser.
And so I did not have time to watch Marriage of Medicine last night before I went to the movie. I was watching real quality music or real quality creativity, which is Dr.
Greg singing his song. So that shit was funny.
So anyway, we see this scene that Karen shot. And it's the same day, probably, that she shot her other thing.
She looks like the same glam. She's like glam to the nines.
Like, here I am, just reading it bad. I'm reading a book on Wicks.
It's called John Wick. Sophie Wicks.
He's only got four, so I've got him beat. Everybody's like, oh, you actually look pretty good.
She's like, oh, thank you. Thank you.
You're very funny. And she's like, well, you look better than you probably feel at the moment, right? That was the line I was trying to feed you.
Oh, yes. Well, I look good to cover how badly I feel.
Thank you, Ray, for reminding me what my line was supposed to be. Well, he's like, well, it is what it is.
I know. I think, you know, dots are being connected for me.
You know, I didn't watch the tapes before the trial. And I'm realizing that if you watch tapes, you can see dots.
And if you see dots, you can see lines. And if you see lines, you don't cross them and you don't wind up across the media.
And so it all makes sense to me now. So, yeah, she's first getting out there that she's never seen this tape.
And Giselle's like, I don't believe uh ray's like i didn't watch the tape either well then you fucking both deserve to go to jail who has evidence that they're like who cares so i might be going to prison who needs to look at the evidence who cares and honestly he i can understand if she doesn't want to see it it's too embarrassing for her but i think that he should have watched it he should have been like okay she is too uncomfortable for her i'm going to watch as someone who cares about the protection of my wife and her future i am going to watch he's like an executive or he was an executive he should be able to handle this so he watched it too she's he just she just told i mean are you kidding ray's gonna watch that it's like rays if it was a film it would be called almost, you know, free. The story of? Ray's going to watch that? It's like Ray's, if it was a film, it would be called Almost

Free.

The story of how Ray almost gets to go to

Florida.

I didn't want you

to watch it because I know

you would have told me about it.

So I'm just sitting there in the courtroom and I

finally have to watch it because I kept saying,

well, surely they made a mistake, right?

Because everything's not connecting for me

and I watch it, I'm telling you, I don't

recognize that woman. She is

Thank you. I finally have to watch it because I kept saying, well, surely they made a mistake, right? Because everything's not connecting for me, and I watch it, I'm telling you, I don't recognize that woman.
She is beautiful! My goodness, have you seen a hotter woman on screen? Triple 20 up there. Very good.
Great work, ma'am. But I'll tell you this, as the credits rolled, one thing I thought to myself was, where's the applause? That was an amazing performance, whoever that woman was.
Amazing! No one applauded me, Ray. Not one.
And then I knew the tides were turning. When I finally sat down and watched footage of that night and I saw a younger version of me crawl out of my back and have a great time out there in Los Angeles, I thought, that was pretty good.
A little gross, but pretty good. I think you're mixing up the substance with your DUI video.
Well, so be it. Well, it helped me to see it because I blacked out before the impact, Ray.
So according to David's testimony, when I hit the tree, I was already blacked out. And he's like, but they were doing construction on the road.
Ray, stop enrabling her. You are the worst enabler I've ever heard.
This is like beyond, it's enrablement. Just stop coming up with fucking excuses.
You had no idea that they had built a median and changed the road at 90 degrees. That's right.
My black dad said I would have gotten home safely had they kept the road going straight. So Karen's like well yes I mean there's new construction but you know what it's my fault I take full accountability for this thing that I didn't do and I need to tell you something self-medicating is one thing but I started doing that seven years ago when mom and dad died and so when I started drinking and started taking antidepressants in alcohol form it was fine it.
It would help. But then I needed more and more.
And as life kept on lifing, and so instead of going back to the doctor, I adjusted my medication. So it's not my fault.
It's medicine's fault. Thank you.
Yeah, she starts this whole like, oh, yeah, I started taking antidepressants, but then I needed more and more antidepressants. That is not how antidepressants work.
This is such bullshit. You've never heard of anybody overdosing on their Prozac.
It's just not true. It's not true.
Now, maybe mixing them with alcohol can be ugly, but you should know that if you've been on these for seven years, then you should know not to be mixing them with alcohol. So she's like, well, I opened a beer, but I said, I don't want beer.
So I had a champagne, which is nothing. It's basically water.
But I had forgotten that I had taken the medication, even though I've been overdosing on it for seven years now. I'm like, Karen, just stop.
It doesn't make it any better if you took too much medication and drove. It's still driving under the influence.
And this is your fourth fucking time, lady. Just stop.
My God. Well what she's what she's trying to say is this okay i drove drunk i admit i drove drunk but i don't want to say i have a drinking problem because when i get out of jail i still want to drink so i'm just gonna say i'm just gonna say it was the meds so that way i'm not committed on camera to saying that i have a drinking problem and then people will get on me when i drink a martini I'm just gonna say it was the meds and that way I'm not committed on camera to saying that I have a drinking problem, and then people will get on me when I drink a martini.
I'm just going to say it was the meds, and that way I can have fun when I get back, and I will take Ubers the rest of the way. And she's like, well, you know, I never drink and drive.
No, he doesn't know that, because her next thing is, you and I have an agreement, right? I have a driver, so many rumors, because I have a driver. You know that? He goes, yeah, you know, that's an interesting part, because they got into that whole Blue Eyes thing, because you have a driver so many rumors because i have a driver you know that he goes yeah you know that's interesting part because they got into that whole blue eyes thing because you have a driver that has blue eyes right you guys you're really trying to cover your ass for all of the seasons in a row this is not gonna work and then we cut to the ladies reacting and just else like oh my god i can't i can't imagine it's like covering all the bases here so then ray's like you know people don't realize that i want you to have drivers i mean when you when you had a dy when was that again 13 years ago so long ago we basically shouldn't even consider it anymore and that's when we said no more drinking and driving and i guess you feel especially bad about it now that you've been there and done that you learned learned a lesson.
And they're like, oh, my God. And also, I know that I've already said this in this recap, but Karen, it turns out she not only got that one years ago, she also had two others that were expunged or not put on her record or whatever.
Apparently, this is the fourth. So this is crazy.
You know what's also funny, by the way? I just want to say what's really funny is that like at the beginning of the reunion when karen did her video they're like pretending to cry they feel so bad for karen they're like this is so good it's so good that she's finally doing this because they can't say okay this is bullshit she's just trying to get out of being at the reunion like they kind of get there but at first they're like we're no we're really happy for karen but now they're just like, okay, fuck this bitch. She's fake.
She's not taking accountability. This all is like a PR stunt, right? Like, their true feelings about this entire situation have finally come out.
And I don't blame them because this is just, this is too much. I mean, it's bad enough to do your whole thing at the beginning, your whole speech at the beginning.
But now to have this where you're just like, let's shoot a scene of me in full glam where I'm taking responsibility for nothing and blaming meds that a ton of people are on because they need them. And I'm going to try and villainize meds instead, which is just ridiculous.
And not fucking blue eyes. She's like, what happened to me? I don't want that to ever happen to me again.
I'm like, it didn't happen to happen to you you did it this was not something that it wasn't like a tree fell down on your car and sent you across that median you drove drunk ray's like well before you beat yourself up too bad he pulls out like a big pie chart on a poster board he's like did you know that are 6,000 there are 6 million car crashes every year in the United

States and

97,000

people addicted to

peanuts? What are we gonna

do about it?

Yes, but how many of them resolve

Medicaid and drive? What happened to me was

self-inflicted. I drove.
I had that

accident. I put people in danger.
I'm going away. Not court ordered.
I'm doing this for me. It wasn't my fault.
I will be going to a wellness clinic

and getting facials for 48 hours

to show America that I care.

So he's like, that is just beautiful.

That is beautiful.

So is this place okay for the Grand Dame?

And she's like, listen,

I was Karen Hugo before the Grand Dame

and I'm going to retire the Grand Dame and I'm going to be just Karen. That's me.
Just Karen. Because Karen is enough.
Well, with maybe a couple of blue cheese stuffed olives in it. Ray, please stop.
So Angie's like, all right, thoughts, everyone. And now she's like, well, they covered all the bases.
I said, what did you see? Well, like Ashleyley said they were trying to cover all the points that they think we're going to question that wasn't accountability not to me i don't know what that was you need to scrap that take that out do her some favors that was so funny to me and he was like but it looked like she was trying to accept responsibility they're're like, oh, please. Until she started talking about not even drinking a beer.

And someone's like, oh, what about the beers in the car?

There were like open beers found in the car.

He's like, oh, God, okay.

So Giselle's like, were you drinking?

Yes or no?

He's like, okay, okay.

So Ashley goes, well, I was on the train here.

And I was sitting next to this guy.

And I told him I was on the show.

And he said, oh, oh, oh, I'm going to Google it.

So he gives you it, and he's like, oh, I know this lady. I used to go to this restaurant in the mall, and she'd be wasted there every single day.
He said it was the legal seafood. Karen would go to legal seafood and get wasted.
That is the funniest thing I ever heard, just her sitting there in front of the chocolate volcano cake they have and just like getting wasted on some sort of like crab martini yeah so she's like it turns out that was karen and this was about before the unfortunate passing of her parents and uh when he's like well that's what i was gonna say but when i said that i wasn't gonna say anything, and then you guys were supposed to keep asking me, but you stopped asking me, well, that's what I was going to say, is I also go to a place for lunch, and whenever I go in there, the waiter says, do you know Karen Hugo? She's drunk every day here. Okay, can we just go back to whore HIPAA? Waiter HIPAA, what does everybody just, what kind of waiter are you? You're serving her the booze.
You don't get to serve somebody the booze and then call them an alcoholic every day. I don't know.
Can we just drink in peace anymore? For fuck's sake. This is why people drink at home now, you bunch of fucking traitors.
Well, this legal seafood waiter has clearly, you know, left the service industry behind and he's going to tell all. Like, this is, he is like the Kitty Carlisle, whatever her name was, who would write the tell all books.
He's like, everything you wanted to know about legal seafood, but we're too afraid to ask. So, they're still talking about how she didn't watch the footage.
Nobody believes that. Kitty Carlisle's an opera singer, I just want to say.
She was a real Kitty Carlisle.

It's like Kitty Carson or Kitty.

Yeah, I know who you mean.

It's an old school reference.

Kitty Kelly.

Kitty Kelly.

Kitty Kelly.

She wrote some book that everyone, a book about Nancy Reagan.

Those about Reagan or something.

You're really reaching back in the vault for that one. Kidding.
So he's like, well, but if she was about to go to jail, wait, if she had watched the footage, then why would she go to trial? Because she thought it was going to be thrown out. Karen's delusional.
She was probably just like, oh, well, they can't use that, right?

You say they're going to throw it out?

Okay, good.

Get it thrown out.

Thanks, Ted.

Thanks.

What we know for sure is that a legal counsel knows because they submitted an appeal to have that footage thrown away.

It's like, well, at her sentencing, it's just in a few weeks.

How do we think this is going to pan out for her?

Do you think it's going to be funny?

Is it going to be sexy?

Will the judge have new boobs? We need to know the answers. Judge, objection.
To her new boobs! Judge, did Casey pay you to do this case? So they talk about her sentencing, and Giselle's like, well, you can't wear your wig in jail. You know, and she's 60, and to be going to jail at 60, that is a problem.
And I don't see that going well at all. And Kieran is like, yeah, I don't want to envision that.
You know, all she had to do was wear one of our polos one day at lunch. Free social work for life.
Someone messaged us and said, you know, last week we were saying that she's going to go to like a Martha Stewart kind of thing. Camp Cupcake, or where Teresa Giudice went.
But those were like for federal crimes.

And Karen is actually going to be going to county jail, which is much rougher.

And it's going to be a doozy for her.

That's for sure.

I mean, she's already there. Karen Huger is in jail right now.

That's wild.

So then they talk about how Wendy and Giselle are friends now. And, know you know it's wrapping it up states you had a great season until it ended so where are you gonna go here with tj she's like i don't go anywhere with tj i lost my best friend tonight but i'll rise and i'll be all right and herself goes Maya goes, Maya Angelou, leave Maya Angelou alone.
Just leave her alone, nah. Still I rise.
You'll see, you'll see. And Andy goes, well, speaking of Maya Angelou, we lost Mia Angelou earlier tonight.
And everyone's like, oh God, don't put Maya and Mia together. So Jasiel's like, well, I think it's whack, just like TJ called Stacey.
And I think, you know,

Wendy said, we've all done nonsense

and craziness, and we all come through and we all

deal with it, and you don't run out. Not only do you not

run out, you run out the building.

So, she's like,

but she also stood on business, you know,

no contrition, no apologies.

And so, you know, now

we're sitting here on the couch, and everyone's had their

opinion. All of a sudden, it's a very different Mia, the way she tears up.
And so, you know now we're sitting here on the couch and everyone's had their opinion all of a sudden it's a very different mia the way she tears up and so you know they're all talking about how mia is so full of shit and wendy's like well i was trying to say earlier you know um you had this time to course correct and you did not you know so and so and jazara goes and she gone and she so uh wendy goes can? The very first season, I clocked Mia. I clocked her.
I'm like, oh, geez. They're like, yeah, but she has the easiest clock.
That's like walking into a swatch store and being like, I think there's watches in here. It's like, yeah, she's easy to clock.
So, yeah, she's like, so we see flashback to that, et cetera. And so now Stacey's like, when do you always know? All right.
Well, listen, it's been quite a year of ups and downs, trials and tribulations. But I stand by the fact that this group has come a long way and was incredible season.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's over.
And I was like, oh, let's take a shot. Let's let's take a shot before're done.
Today, out of respect for Karen, we're not going to have alcohol. I have passed everyone entire bottles of Prozac to swallow.
Okay, great. Thanks, everybody.
So on the screen, we see February 26th, 2025. Karen was sentenced to two years in prison with one year suspended.
She was immediately taken to prison to start her sentence yeah they didn't even hand hand out some sort of like gag or like like panama hats or whatever like anything so yeah that was it um the last hour was it was kind of a goofy hour i actually kind of liked how kind of freewheeling and sort of silly and stupid it was um but yeah it was done i'm honestly i'm happy with this season i think it was a good like it showed this show still has a lot of life left in that after last last year's like tragic terrible season i i think overall the season was very entertaining despite like a lull in the middle and um i'm excited for next year i think they had a good start a good and a terrible in, and a good reunion. So I hope they can keep the good of it and keep it going next season because I still love this show.
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