
#2738 RHOP Reunion 2: From Here To Paternity
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Hello and welcome to Watch What Cra- Watch what happens when there's so much that crap ends are you hi what you doing you know just kicking off the week ready to talk some real housewives of potomac reunion part two what are you doing i'm just i was turning off my phone and my dad just sent me a text is your internet out granted we don't even live close to each other so i don't know what it would have to do with his internet being out maybe it's a statewide issue. Is your internet out? Well, I hope that...
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So go do it. And without any further ado ado let's talk some potomac reunion part dear about the dear well they're sure having a pretty entertaining reunion without karen there i almost feel bad for karen i know it's a really really good reunion it's it's like and this episode was funny because it was full of the normal spiciness but there's also like a lot of hilarity, too.
I mean, they were all cracking up there on the stage. It's really good.
Yeah, it's been a good one. I was kind of hoping Karen would be in prison by this time so that she could watch it from jail.
Because I just wanted the other people to be like, wow, Karen, it's really good without you. And then her just get mad and shake somebody with a toothbrush that she made into a knife or something but just imagining karen with a coffee mug going against the bars excuse me security security mush again um yeah she's not in uh prison but she is in some rehab center and i was reading that she, because because her sentencing is her sentencing now.
It's like in a second. It's either it either just happened or it's in like it's today.
It's right now. Whenever my dad gets Internet back, we'll probably find out what happened to Karen.
But they were saying that the judge got pissed because her her rehab is like a club. You know, it's like massages and facials.
And it's not real rehab. It's just like, you know, celebrity vacation or whatever.
And it's good for Karen, you know. You go, girl.
Well, according to Fox 5 in D.C., Karen Huger is facing sentencing Wednesday. Wednesday, Wednesday, Wednesday! So we will find out on Wednesday
maybe what will happen to our sweet, sweet Karen Huger.
But that's hilarious.
Of course, Karen went to a quote-unquote wellness center
like Promises Malibu,
where she's playing badminton and mahjong all day long.
Of course she is.
I hereby decree this good mitten.
I want this to be a positive experience for everybody. Good mitten.
I want to assure everyone that we have the designated driver for our shuttlecock. It's a shuttle after all, right? Okay, so here we are with part two, and Mia has just gone off because she's been called on something pretty light.
I mean, I think it was pretty light, whatever she was called out on. But just watching everybody have to get up with these dresses on is so funny because they are like toothpaste being squeezed very slowly out of the tooth.
They cannot move. They're like, oh, God.
Every time they get up, they're like, oh, Lord. So, she's walked off, and that last episode ended with one of my favorite sound bites from this show of all time, which is Mia crying.
And so, all the ladies are looking around, and they're like, what's going on? Jesusesus yeah so andy knocks on her dressing room door and he goes well now i know who has my normal dressing room which was kind of his way of being like who the fuck are you it also is does that mean that andy did not go around before the reunion and do his his standard like how you feeling today you ready to talk to people it means he just means he just sort of showed up, clocked in, and was like, all right, let's do it. Of course, he doesn't even look up from his phone until they're like, Andy, read the cue card.
But why would they give Mia his dressing room? Why is she getting such star treatment? They're acting like what she did this season is a sin against humanity, which I mean, it kind of is, you know, using your kids in that way and all that. You know, I think Mia's horrible for that.
I mean, hilarious too, but also horrible. And I can see their point, but then why is she getting this star treatment? Bravo loves people who will throw their children on a train track for a storyline.
They're like, you know what Mia? Your son will never recover from this probably. Here's Andy's dressing room.
Congratulations.
Yeah.
This is Bravo's version of an Oscar.
Andy's dressing room.
So Andy's like, Andy is so funny too.
I'd love watching Andy convince Housewives to come back on stage because it's just so like, it's just, I don't want to say it's insincere, but it's just so hilarious.
It's like so perfectly manipulative.
It's like the most, it's so easy to see what he's doing, but they always fall for it. He's like, all right, now listen, here's the deal.
You're beating yourself up right now. And why beat yourself up when there are other people out on stage who can beat you up for you.
Okay. So here's nothing worse than like a shame spiral.
Well, maybe traumatizing your kid on national TV for an entire season. But anyway, I feel like you're in a shame spiral.
Give yourself a little bit of grace. Come on, give yourself a little grace.
She's like, thanks, Andy. Thanks, Andy.
Grace. Yeah.
And he doesn't. Have you ever seen those videos of Andy talking to his kids? I don't watch children videos.
He's driving to the Hamptons or whatever, and his kids are just having a fit in the car. And he's like, why are we doing this? What do you think you're accomplishing right now? You're in a shame spiral.
It's kind of the same way that he's talking to Mia right now. And poor Mia, it's like she thinks she's going to get away from it all by running away.
But there's like knocks at the door the door, and there's just random guys coming in taking off their shirts. It's like, um, what's happening? Oh, sorry.
Sorry, guys. I didn't update Grindr.
My dressing room's down. It's down now.
It's Karen's old dressing room. New location.
Yeah. So back on the set, Ashley is saying, well, first of all, Kierna's like, I'm that made the cut that's what we needed to be told thanks Kierna the the doyen of fascinating content over there the arbiter of truth over there the one who knows what makes for good TV so then Ashley what does Greg think about it I know right so Ashley's basically like, if you ever leave me somewhere like that,
and Giselle's like, I would never.
I'm like, you would 100% do that to Ashley,
but that's okay, it's fine.
I still remember season one, Potomac.
I still don't believe,
I don't,
Ashley has wormed her way into Giselle's heart
after all these years,
but I still think given the opportunity,
Giselle would ditch Ashley.
Yeah, I think so too. So now, then they're talking, of course, about the Miami storyline that Mia had this birthday party and then ditched the two girls that she did invite once they came all the way to Miami.
So, back to Mia, she's like, I've been a terrible fan and I know that. And he's like, oh, you're beating yourself up.
You pooped your diaper, okay? You felt bad, you owned it, but we're gonna be at our big house in the Hamptons soon. So give yourself a break, Mia.
And she's like, but like, if I wasn't in like the final wings of my divorce, I wouldn't be in the shame spiral right now. It's just that I'm really actually divorcing, completelyvable oh my god this is a good blow job wow please please you're in the wrong room please and ashley and giselle are still talking about they would never abandon each other and he's like well the fact that you feel ashamed means that you're a good person that you're the good person we know you are so give give yourself some grace about this Miami thing.
Just, you know, take it off. It's done, okay? Miami, Miami, I am a good person.
It's tormented by media. Yeah, exactly.
So come back out on stage. You know who doesn't ever, you know who never feels guilt? Serial killers.
So at least you're not a serial killer. Now let's go out there and talk about your new boobs possibly okay so then uh everyone else is sort of gathering uh reassembling back on the stage stacy sits down on the sofa i guess she doesn't estimate how far the they can't move they cannot move their body they're just all standing there and they're doing trust falls onto the couch.
I was like, boop. So she goes, oh, that was a long drop, but we made it.
So what are the babies going to do while you're here all day? Is Eddie going to take them somewhere, Wendy? She's like, no, they're going to come here. Oh, that's right.
And Kieran was saying how she dragged Greg up to New York for the reunion. And we cut to Greg's dressing room.
We only hear his voice and he's like, it's four 52. And she said, come at one 30.
I could have been bopping around Manhattan. Oh, I'm so sorry for those businesses that could have had the, the, the privilege of having your attention, Greg.
He's out there handing out his social work card to people. Andy and Mia come back, and they start again.
He's like, welcome back! We're still talking about the dynamic duo of Potomac GNA. Giselle, how is life as in empty solar for you? Excuse me? Yeah.
Empty nester. You said solar.
Did you mean as in solar panels? No, I meant souls, but it was an accident. Sorry.
Slip of the tongue. Well, life as in empty nester, well, you know what they say.
Life goes on, and so do we. Just how we do it is no mystery.
So, you know, it's like Giselle in full throttle. You know, it's like when I dropped off the twins I finally got home and I was legit sad for 28 hours but then Joe Isuzu came over from next door and then I had Dreyfus so life is empty nester not so bad one time they said go see the park so I went to the park and they said we met the You know, if it weren't for park overall and Sophia next door,
I'm not sure how I'd get through this empty nest phase of my life.
And he asks about the twins adjusting to college life.
And she's like, great, they had a first semester where they both got 4.0s on both sides.
And they cut to me just being like why didn't they attend you know that's what she was thinking maybe if they weren't sneaking boys into their room in the Dominican Republic then get tens so that's a little stupid and so believable too like you know that was a train of fun like that's good out of how many Andy I'm a 10 alright you're in another shame spiral so Andy's like so how's your relationship with Jamal these days and she's like good why oh because Shmookie from Shmookieville says Do you know that why Jamal these days. And she's like, good, why? I was like, oh, because Schmookie from Schmookieville says, do you know that why Jamal and his wife dressed up like characters in Wicked for their wedding? They did.
And I was like, what? And it turns out, I looked up the picture and I guess they didn't get permission to post the photos of Jamal and his wife, which made me really upset. Made me mad at Jamal, actually.
Let your photo be shown on this platform. But she was dressed in this big, pink, frilly Glinda dress, and he was in a green Alphaba blazer.
I kind of hate that they did it before us at the crappies. I know.
But we didn't know until right now. Oh, and she's wearing like a pant.
Wow, she made a choice. Let me just say, his new wife made quite a choice in this outfit.
It is, should I show it on here? Sure. Since we're on Crappens on demand.
This is a crap is on demand. I'm sorry for people on audio because we're basically stopping.
We're stopping any kind of momentum we might be getting by showing you this, but it's important. This is important.
This is important. I feel like it is.
Okay, so here it is. Do you see it? Yes.
So she's wearing a pants, a bell-bottoms, pants, pink. This is a huge, huge choice she's making.
She looks great, though, and I love her hair. She definitely looks like she went to that same designer who did the reunion dresses for three years there, all of Nini's dresses.
It was that one person. Everyone would come on looking like a figure skater, but this is a pantsuit version of it.
Yeah. So yeah, that's the outfit.
So there you go. I just look at her and I think, wow, I hope you're ready to get cheated on a lot.
I thought you were going to say, I hope you're happy now that you've chosen this. I hope you're happy.
I hope you're happy now. I hope you're happy how your husband's getting poo-tang from everybody in church.
I hope you're happy that he's impregnated a teenager. I hope you like free fills from Arizona.
Always fun. We thought we were going to have to wait for Wicked Part 2, but here it is.
We'll be busting out that song every month. They read some tweets from people who are like, Work, Alphaba! Come on, Alphaba and Glinda! Jamal Bryant looks like he's saying, Because I knew you, I've been changed for good in his wedding vows.
Wow, Jamal's basically at the end of a Target commercial. Andy, and then I didn't even clock this until I'm reading the notes right now.
Andy goes, so who was he, the goat? That's actually really funny. Like saying Jamal was the goat in Wicked.
That's one of the funniest things Andy Cohen has ever said. So Ashley was like, he was Elphaba.
Wait, he was Elphaba. What, is Jamal a big Wicked fan? No, he doesn't even know what Wicked is.
Well, he does now. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Oh, so Giselle's like, I don't know what possessed him to do that. And Andy asked what the girls thought.
They were horrified. Well, maybe because they only got a four in school.
Maybe they should spend more time studying than going to which school? So Giselle's like, well, he knows now. Yeah.
And they were embarrassed. And they went to the wedding.
The girls went to the wedding. And Andy asked what the girls think about the new stepmom as if anyone in the audience cares about this.
And they basically don't. Giselle is very polite and shady.
And she goes, well, they still don't know her. It would be great if there was a relationship.
But there just hasn't been one with my kids. Hashtag she's a bitch.
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Well, you both found some great guys this season. What's happening with your guy, Namsay? And Giselle says that they're stronger than ever.
And then she says, by the way, Namsay and Josh have become very good friends. That's great.
They hang out all the time. Oh, cool.
So, yeah. So, Beavis and Butterhair.
You're sending a spin-off here called Beavis and Namsay. Beavis and Namsay, right.
They're in a shame spiral, unfortunately. So, paused so is josh are josh and uh ashley still dating it's like yeah you know we've just lessened it you know cut back a little bit because we were just so hot and heavy so now we're just gonna chill so we don't have labels okay but from noms he's uh headed over he nomoms says that Josh is head over heels for Ashley.
And Andy's saying, well, Ashley also told me that he sent you off to New York. And Ashley's like, he did.
And she's like, with what? Sperm? With semen? And they're like, smile, bitch. So how does he feel about Wendy's nickname, Jack Harlow for beavis and she's like actually josh was actually very offended by some of the things that wendy has said about him oh for christ's sake he's gonna have to fucking toughen up in this group that's nothing yeah exactly don't start don't start banging one of the real housewives of potomac and expect it to go uncommented on and so wendy's like he's offended by being called jack hollow no but the fact that like you said didion was like a lateral move from michael and because she said that in her in her at one point during the season and she goes he'll be okay yeah he'll be fine he'll be fine yeah Ashley's really trying it here.
So Wendy's like, who cares? And Ashley says, oh, you have no remorse? He's a very good guy. And his friends have been texting him like, oh, I can't believe she said that about you.
And she goes, do you know how many things you've said about my husband? What have I said about your husband? Well, let's start with Ashley willfully bought a woman that she knew was a lie about my husband on the television oh please that was a low you're right that that was a low down dirty storyline but that was giselle and robin who did that and you're gonna completely let them off the hook now come on you know i was okay with wendy pulling this card because ashley was pulling a bullshit card with Josh being offended by Jack Harlow. She was, yeah.
I was like, you know what, Wendy?
Just pull whatever you want.
But I like that Wendy will just go back
into the history books and then make this,
just because she's friends with Giselle this season.
She's like, oh, really?
When you tried to make my best friend Giselle look bad
by bringing something up on camera?
You mean the blog that someone else wrote
that I didn't write?
You brought it up on national TV. Well, I thought Giselle had done it.
And she's like, no, I didn't. And we see it was actually Ashley who had shown up, but I mean, it was just a matter of time.
It's like semantics. Like it was going to be Giselle and Robin if it wasn't going to be Ashley.
Well, Giselle pulled her to tell her. She's like, you need to tell Wendy this.
So she's like, okay. Because wasn't this when Ashley was pregnant and she's like, well, I got to get in my car because I'm pregnant.
But before I go, Wendy, everybody says your husband's banging some girl on reality TV. Bye.
Yeah, it was something like that. Or she just had the baby or was about to have a baby or something.
So Giselle was like, well, it was Ashley, but I took the blame for it because it was fine. Wendy's like, well, I was mad at Ashley, too.
So don't sit here and woe is me. You talk about the father of my children, my husband, the owner and proprietor of Happy Eddie, which is available in all dispensaries nationwide.
So sit there and sit with it. The blogger didn't bring it up on a national platform.
And he's like, okay, moving on. I'm bored with this.
You're reaching. You're really reaching.
Moving on. You'll be fine.
You'll be fine. Moving on.
Josh is a great young man. Who says that? And my husband is amazing.
Yeah, I know, right? And my husband is amazing, and I'm still married to him. So good luck with you and Josh.
Oh, well, that's beautiful for you. I haven't said shit about Eddie.
I was like, okay, good luck with you and Josh. I haven't said shit about Eddie.
You brought rumors about mine. I haven't said shit about Eddie.
Wendy's like, well, you brought rumors about my husband. Well, is Eddie still a lawyer? Is he still practicing? Yes, he is.
Oh, he never said that. Yes, he is.
Is he? You see what I'm saying? Miserable. So is the big rumor that Eddie's not practicing anymore? Who cares? He's dealing happy Eddie now.
Yeah. Guilty of making you happy.
Happy Eddie. You're miserable.
Absolutely not. I'm happy as a clam and my clam was serviced.
Oh, yeah. No, you're not.
It clocked your ass. You tried it.
Clocked it clocked it all right all right all right all right we're done okay by the way so this season a former qvco's named stacy and a med spa owner named hold on what's her name again are we sure she's on the show she is wrestling um gave this cast a makeover. Let's watch the clips.
Can we fast forward's on the show? She is. Restylane gave this cast a makeover.
Let's watch the clips.
Can we fast forward Restylane's parts?
Because it's...
So we see both of their clips and everything.
All right.
Okay.
Well, Kay, what's the current status of you and Greg?
Asks no one.
Karen's like, well, me and Greg are still together.
Okay.
That's great.
Thanks for coming to the reunion. It's great to see you.
No, I'm an actual real housewife I'm not a friend of. Oh, okay.
All right, well, I guess talk some more about your relationship then. Well, we're still together.
And everyone's like, oh, how nice. Congratulations.
That guy's trash. And she's like, yeah, we actually seen some rings last week.
So, yeah, guys. Yeah, I've looked at rings.
So.
So he's taking you ring shopping?
Well, he Googled rings, and he showed me some.
And then he started playing Never Gonna Get It,
which is our song.
That's our song. So it's been super romantic.
Yeah.
We went looking for rings,
and I'm proud to say I'm the owner of a brand new doorbell. So thank you everyone.
Thank you. I do have a new ring.
But like in Vogue, we'll never break up. So that's...
So Andy's... Andy's like, well, she says that they actually separated it he's like oh you did sorry i'm just trying to muster some sort of energy for this segment yeah yeah we did and i actually went and like got a condo and then like i'm in the process of purchasing that and it's just been like really lonely it's like oh cool like that's that's great you got a condo that's very on brand for the Real Housewives condos.
She's like, oh, cool. Like, that's great.
You got a condo. That's very on brand for the
Real Housewives condos. Yeah.
She's like, yeah, you know,
premarital property, you know. He's like,
okay, so are you going to move back in with him?
And she goes, maybe after the rain.
Stop filming me
day and night. I mean, Jesus, he put it on the
inside of the door, Andy, so.
Yeah, he actually won't come over to my new
condo because he doesn't like being filmed, so like, the ring camera's actually more of a problem than we thought it would be. Well, at the end of the season, we got to understand a little bit more about why Greg doesn't say much on camera.
He doesn't like being filmed. Yeah.
And she's like, I'm sure that Greg is not the first husband. It does feel invasive and it was like a big transition from being like a friend to like a full time ass wife and that like level of expectation and honestly like last year when I got married alright so did any of those guys find the correct dressing room is anybody waiting alright we got it he doesn't like being filmed you know mole people just gotta mole people sometimes yeah we actually have a comment from a camera from cameraman that says kiana please let greg know that he may not like the camera but the camera likes him even less wow that was harsh wow well you know i know it hurts him when i say that thing because like you know he's like you know he like, I'm showing up.
But like, at the same time, he just feels like it's like negative, even though he was there showing up. I'm like, well, you, in life, you can't just show up.
Okay. You don't, I mean, yes, people say like, just showing up.
Yeah. Well, show up and also be like fun.
Yeah. I hate that saying like most 90% of life is showing up.
No, it's not.
Anyone can show up.
I mean, I don't like that, like the lowest standards for anybody.
But, you know, she's like, you know, his thing was he's just uncomfortable all the time.
And Andy's like, oh, please.
Robin was a cast member on this show for eight years.
And she did nothing but look uncomfortable.
It was fine for her.
Yeah, at least Juan Dixon. Juan Dixon hated it too, but at least he made a slight effort, you know? No, I meant Robin, but yeah, actually Juan is not.
I'm just saying Juan too. I'm yes-anding that.
I'm bringing Juan into this. I am so glad that Juan Dixon isn't here to comment on Greg.
Yeah, but he can still be, you know, but it's just I'm sorry to his credit. He showed up and he was uncomfortable on camera.
So, you know, we thought Robin wasn't coming back this season, but in a way she's here. So now, Stacey, people seem to think that your former significant other TJ had the opposite feeling about the cameras.
He loved the cameras. He actually called us and asked if we wanted to film his poop job.
So Wendy's like, I'm sorry, you said former? They're not together anymore? We are not anymore. No.
Well, I didn't know that. And Kieran's like, were they ever together? Well, as I've said consistently, TJ is one of the best people I know.
However, it was just a lot of pressure and there was also moments that I saw watching the show that were shocking. And on top of that, he did get an extra job on the pit.
So, you know, he's been busy. You know, I just couldn't date someone when all he would do was walk around going, Statt! Statt!
I mean, it's just very stressful, you guys.
He would say, listen, Stacey, we're putting on a stopwatch,
and the next 60 minutes of our lives is going to be like 60 minutes in the pit.
All right, it's a real-time show, and I'm going to be on it.
It was just a lot to deal with.
I woke up one night and thought, wow, TJ's finally on top of me, but he had a scalpelpel and we were just going to put in a stint. He's very method, Andy.
It got scary. Have you watched The Pit? People are, like, really into The Pit.
I almost want to watch it. No, I'm not watching that.
I mean, I liked ER when ER was on. But it was, at one point with ER, because ER was on, like, 97 seasons or something.
And at one one point I had to stop because I was like, why am I putting myself through this?
It's nothing but pain.
I can't.
And they're like, oh, wow, ER's back as the pit.
And now it's with your least favorite person from ER, but older.
And I was like, no.
Why don't I watch that?
How dare you insult my former employer?
How dare you? Noah Wiley? Yes. You worked for him? I worked at his company, yes.
Did I know that? I don't know. That's where TV Guasm started.
I had nothing to do in the afternoons. And so Joe Foss and I, Joe wanted to start a TV blog, and so I'll be writing my recaps there in the office.
Wow. I didn't know that for some reason.
Yeah, so that kind of makes this podcast pit adjacent. So be careful where your bread is buttered.
But I do hear the pit's good. Yeah, I hear it's good.
Everybody's loving the pit. I just, you know, don't know i don't that's depressing especially as you get older and the hospital is more of a possibility every day i just know what's depressing about a show called the pit i don't understand it's got such a positive name i had to go to the emergency room last year well i didn't have to my my parents made me because i had really high blood pressure it was like in a 200 something, it was like 240 over, I mean, it was really, really high.
And I only found out cause I went to the Botox place and I was getting weight loss medication. So they gave me a blood, whatever, they gave me a blood pressure test.
And they were like, no, Ronnie, you really need to go to the hospital. And I put it off, but I made the mistake of telling my dad this.
And I told him at 10 o'clock at night well who shows up at my door my parents like we're going to the fucking emergency room as they drove me no they shouldn't have in their state they should have sent an uber or something so they you can tell that they'd been playing cards or something i mean there is something that i'm not accusing them of drunk driving i'm just saying there's been more sober driving. And they sped me down there like Cruella DeVille is how they were driving.
And they got me to, it was one of those private emergency rooms or whatever. And it was, by this time, it was like 11, 1130 at night.
And the only people on staff there were the new people who didn't have any experience. And my mom was a terror in there.
She was like, where is everybody? Where's the fucking service? There's no one even in here. And so they take me back there and the guy's like, oh, we need to give you an IV of fluids or something.
And so he kept missing the vein. Granted, I don't work out, so I don't have veins.
So he's just like poking around and then blood started spurting out of my, he missed the vein, I guess. And my mom started yelling at him and he looked like he was about to cry.
I never want to go back to an emergency room again is the point. So no pit, I will help you.
And if you want to see really depressing drama, call my mom in the middle of late night canasta to take you to the emergency room and see how traumatized you are. I don't want to hear it about the pit.
What about a 24-hour real-time medical show that takes place in a med spa instead? That's where you found out about the high blood pressure. What about, it's called The Butte, and it all takes place at B-Lab and Laser.
And it's like, here's episode one. It's like, did you do Whirl today.
Not yet. I'm into it.
That I would watch.
Okay, so anyway, we see clips of TJ being kind of an asshole to Stacey, which he was doing right to her face, but somehow it only really bothered her when she saw it on TV. It's like, you know, when I saw it at a different angle, he just didn't look as handsome when he was yelling at me.
So I was very offended when I watched it back. To hear from Arabella and my family, it was hurtful, Andy.
It was hurtful. I still laugh every time she says Arabella.
She didn't even say it. We're saying it, but just Arabella.
It's just so great every time. It was hurt and and and it was hurtful for some people to say he was more interested in the trainer than me i said that i know you did i know and we see uh wendy's saying in a bravo fan fest i just love how everyone they are all paid they pay attention to every single word that everyone says at any little event so yeah because you know they're're you know people are you know how fans are and they're like texting them videos like did you hear what this bitch said about you you know because even if they don't watch the whole thing i'm sure they get the bits that are the most offensive you know and that was hurtful wendy because you're my friend and tj talks to eddie and you know they text you know that they're great great friends she's like um not really but anyway i'm sorry that i made you feel that way and as your friend i will receive that absolutely 1000 i'm not apologizing for what i said but i will receive what you said and think of me as a mailbox my behavior think think of me as a friendly mailbox.
Okay? I received it. I received it, much as I'm sure TJ hopes to receive more sessions from that trainer.
Well, could you put the little red metal flag up so I could get a response? No, there's nothing in the mailbox. You already have TJ.
You have enough red flags. So, when did you break up with TJ? He's like oh right around the holiday season handy merry christmas to me right right everybody right and everybody's kind of very sad yuletide moments we were going to be celebrating with non-alcoholic eggnog when all of a sudden tj got a call that he needed to sub him for a last minute big lots commercial to celebrate the holidays and honestly i'm not sure i can ever celebrate christmas in the same way it was devastating for me so and he's like wow you got broke up with him quick or you got a divorce too right wow that's crazy ashley that was quick right she already got a divorce look at you you, loser.
All right, everybody, point at Ashley and laugh.
All right, then, now point at Mia and laugh.
Great, great, great.
So, Giselle goes-
Point at this boy in a ball gag and laugh.
What are you doing on stage?
Go back to Karen's dressing room.
How is your daughter handling it?
And Karen goes, yeah, Arabella. I'm sorry, Kier'm sorry karen excuse me stacy you have the floor arabella thank you well she's well we're doing we're doing one week on one week off and i'm not gonna lie you guys i'm bored when arabella's not around i'm like who do i talk to who do i boss around i, a fern can only take so much punishment.
They are still, she is still best friends with TJ, she tells us. And Wendy's like, but wait, so nothing's changed because you were best friends with him before and you're best friends with him now, right? So whatever.
This is stupid, you know? So you all weren't having sex then? You're not having sex now. Whatever.
I'm your friend. I don't want you to forget that yeah and um stacy's like yeah thanks for wrapping it up wendy thanks all right can i ask a very personal question she's like yes all right did you do everything but have sex well i i didn't know it was going to be that question i'm like it's andy and he says he's asking a personal question like yeah you have to get your vagina ready well when I say you know we were intimate but what but sex no fingers did digits in the butt no blowies no suckies no lickies oh.
I think that Andy is actually filling out his menu for the dressing room action in the brick. So they're questioning her in like cunnilingus, anything down below the belt.
And Stacy goes, let's just say I wish him well. I wish him wellabella.
Wellabella. All right.
Well, moving on. Dinah from Man Off says, Stacy, were you just with TJ for a storyline and also to boost his acting career? Because that's what it looks like to me, a real Kenya Walter situation.
And we get a wonderful brief clip of Kenya and Walter back in season five of Atlanta. And Andy's like, yeah, but Walter wasn't as thirsty as TJ.
She goes, are these fans of the show? Who are these people? Did my mother get a comment through? They are fans. Well, I don't know what to say about that.
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Okay, well, I came to admiring and reading each other's fashions this season. The women of Potomac had each other's number, especially when that number is 613.
Let's have a look. So, it's a clip talking about, we just see everyone's crazy outfits, etc.
You know, specifically, you know, the Kieran's shoulder pads, Wendy's Michelin Man outfit, Stacy's wig, things like that. Giselle's foofy dress.
So we come back, and Andy's like, there's a big difference between Whitney and Annie. And now she says, okay, but it wasn't included, but the dress that Stacy stacy wore the finale i wore that dress like three months before which actually leads to a lot of drama which i wasn't prepared for i was not prepared for all of this that happened so we see a flashback to strut for strays where ashley and giselle are talking and ashley's like oh my god i wore that outfit that she's wearing and she shows her a picture and they crack up and she says shade.
I mean, you look good in it. You look good.
And Stacey goes, I know. Thank you.
Thank you. The fern said the same thing.
Well, so the dress was one that Vivian made. Yeah, she's like made it for me.
And Andy's like, and made it for you a few months earlier. And was she being shady on purpose by dressing you in that? And Stacey goes, it's a really difficult, difficult situation for me because I've known Vivian for years.
And we see them flashback to Vivian being dragged into this. And Stacey's like, and I just think it was quite obvious that she was being shady on purpose.
So this is from Vivian, everybody. She says, this is on Instagram, she says, thanks Giselle Bryant for asking who elevated who.
The delusion of it all. Stacey is quickly unraveling her fraudulent self before our eyes.
Stacey begged me to exclusively sponsor her event to elevate it. Her words.
And by the way, I introduced Stacey to the Real Housewives of Potomac group, and this is how she thanks me. S.M.H.
Lying Stacey begged me for that outfit. I originally custom made that outfit for Ashley for a casual collaborative event.
I offered Stacey another gown appropriate for her event. It was made out of dogs.
And she insisted, Ashley's outfit. So I even showed her a pic of Ashley in it.
And my staff was present at the time of the conversation. Hey, Stacy, you returned all the gowns smelling funky.
SMH. Everyone will soon get your true color.
Hashtag fake. Hashtag phony.
Hashtag fraud. Hashtag the lies.
P.S. Bravo, Andy.
I love how you call me Viv. Have me on next time.
Well, good for Vivian for standing up for herself. This whole thing, I think this whole thing made Stacey look bad in the best possible way.
It's like, aha, Stacey, we've known there's more than the good girl act that she's been talking about and you know we definitely got a peek into it with this diva meltdown over the dress so um andy's yeah andy's like so you're really not friends over that and wendy's like yeah she told me to fuck that bitch you talk like that stacy goes i would never say that did. I said, so how are you and Vivian? And you took a sip of your drink and you said, fuck that bitch.
That's what she said. She goes, well, you know, it's just, it's very difficult for me because I chose to elevate her and have her be the exclusive fashion designer for Strut for Strays.
I mean, do you know how many designers, Christian Siriano, you know, Louis Vuitton, were just left out in the cold, and he left out in the cold, all for Vivian. So you elevated Vivian.
Absolutely. Did you not hear that list of designers? And then Keanu's like, but did Vivian need elevation, though? I mean, well, I I mean look, it's not like Vivian is like a major force in Vogue or something like that, but well, she's a major force in Potomac she's a she's been on the cover of Mid-Atlantic Vogue, so, you know, I take it all back.
She may not be on W but but she's on the cover of the DMV. She's just on the cover.
She's on the cover of you, not W. So Stacey is like, she's like, by allowing her to do the things for the event, I was mortified that she would put me in an outfit that one of my colleagues had already worn.
Oh, so that you said fuck you bitch absolutely so andy says you think she did it deliberately and when he goes fuck that bitch that's what she said andy absolutely she's dead to me and it's over and i feel like they're like at this point all laughing and i'm i couldn't tell if stacy was even being serious because even stacy seems like she's laughing and kieran is like detroit 313 that's the stacy i shared a room with that's the real stacy um which is true by the way i feel like one thing we have not really clocked stacy for is that every now and then she does get a michigan accent that comes through which i think is so great because she tries to have a newscaster accent but every now and then she's like paging Mary Cleary. And I think it's great.
I love that little twinge of Michigan coming through. So they're all cracking up at her that she's finally being bitchy on the show.
And Andy's like, well, you are a real housewife. So have you had your face done yet? Please get it done.
I just need to ask about it. You look great, but I would love to ask about it next time.
Okay, great. So were the ladies too hard on you about your hair and in the finale they made that wig and she says that she was expecting a warmer reception because they have borderline hazed me all season it was so rough and they're like oh come on now have you not dished it so then we see flashbacks to stacy saying ashley is a beautiful woman from top to ankle and then ashley says um by the way so you can sit up there and be like oh you guys have been hazing me but bitch you've been dishing it too and then he goes okay well um you know i who be from diaper said ash when are you going to prioritize the health of your feet and address those Funyuns? And she's like, oh my God, everyone's so worried about my Bunyuns.
I mean, Karen's the one who's really worried, so I'm going to put her picture right by my Bunyuns. They're genetic Bunyuns.
She put some brain to Karen down there. These are Bunyuns I've had since I was 10.
these are like childhood bunions they have they went to school so then um uh andy's like all right all right all right can i get my own personal thing off my chest that blue michelin dire man suit oh god i have never in 18 years text a housewife about an outfit and we see that he texted wendy to say uh we need to discuss this dress professor so wendy wrote back oh my god i was so torn on this look i was given michelin man tees hot hot hot uh she's like when you texted me i you know i texted you back i owned it you know i knew i was looking like a tire and kiana you got a lot of attention for your cartoon super villain shoulders yeah all right well they're kind of giving uncle fester a little bit okay well pencil from sharpener says ashley you look amazing but the real question is do you own a full shirt it's either titties out or belly out what's And then she's like, yeah, well, they continue to be. I was like, okay, good.
Well, you make a hot guy, by the way. Hot guy.
And we see her dancing in drag. It's amazing to see how off-rhythm you are as a man, as well as a woman.
It's pretty impressive. It's pretty impressive that the gender swap didn't help at all.
It's like, yeah, it was wild. And she says her grandma was so proud of her.
And even Karen was like, oh, you're making me reconsider some things. Not vodka.
But. Most importantly, what did Uncle Lump think? What did Uncle Lump think?
Uncle Lump.
All right.
All right.
Well, Area from Rug asks, Wendy, I saw an Instagram post where you alluded to Ashley copying your confessional look with the pearls and red hair.
Ashley, did you rip off Wendy on purpose?
And then we see the side by side of these outfits. I don't think they're the same
outfit. They both had pearls on them.
They're similar.
And I'm glad he pointed out that they're all wearing
the same thing tonight, too.
They're wearing the same pearl thing tonight, too.
I don't know. I didn't think this was one
of them. But when he's like, oh, yeah, they peek
through my window at night, Andy. They peek through my
window. Okay, well, Heavenly
is a huge homo from Fulb
says, Mia, when you
I'm going to go. But when he's like, oh, yeah, they peek through my window at night, Andy.
They peek through my window. Okay, well, Heavenly is a Huge Homo from Fulb says, Mia, when you were married to Gordon, you were always wearing blazers.
And then you got with ink and you started wearing Fashion Nova and stirring up messy storylines. Did ink bring out a different side of you? And Mia's like, oh, sadly, the way I dress has absolutely nothing to do with the man i was actually working a cromer job okay and like then i sold my job to work with ashinoa and he's like so you sold your job no you did not sell your job ma'am you were doing pamphlets in a crack the back and your job was taken from you because you guys were allegedly taking money from the business and using it for shit that you shouldn't have been using it for.
Allegedly, allegedly. I didn't say any of this.
I read it all on the internet. It was a corporate job.
I used my BMA that I got from Harvard School of Business of schools. And I don't know what everyone is talking about.
It was a very high-powered, important working girl job. One day, I was doing dim sum.
Next day I was banging Harrison Ford and making a million dollar deals. I don't want to hear anything more about it.
So Giselle, you were so messy to buy the dress that Stacey forbid everybody from wearing at her event. What message were you trying to send her? Well, that I would spend a lot of money for tacky things.
But we've already seen your house. Well, still, it felt good.
Yeah. I was afraid people were saying I looked really good in this reunion, so I wanted to make sure that they knew that I still was capable of dressing very, very badly.
Yeah. I wanted them to stop making fun of the taste in my living room and start making fun of the taste on my body.
So so she basically uh yeah she just was like she bought it to be petty and then wendy says that giselle actually returned it right away um she was like yeah she was like you can have it like she just did it to get under his skin well i mean why not wear it for a good cause she's i did i went to the event da but did you donate to my charity? I did. I was sitting there and I donated.
I donated. I was sitting there as shit was shitting and I donated.
The shit was shitting. So we see the flashback to the dog poop fiasco at Strut for Strays, which I'm sure will have its own 30-minute segment at some point.
For now. for now okay well you all went blonde this season and who wears blonde best who is the true queen of the 613 well i think we all know who wears blonde the best it's cameron nah oh i was talking about you giselle oh oh thank you that's nice i mean i think that i don't i hate your guts and hope you die please stop disarming me so then uh they make fun of mia's hair uh as if it was the worst i don't i don't know what's wrong with me giselle no mia said something that was so funny because giselle goes well thank you it's very nice but i think that karen rocks the blonde hair and Amir goes, when said something that was so funny.
Because Giselle goes, well, thank you. It's very nice.
But I think that Karen rocks the blonde hair.
And Mia goes, when it's on all the way.
So Mia says, no more 613 for now.
And Stacey goes, but you took a risk.
And I applaud you for that.
She took a risk.
And I'm the only person applauding i feel like we're not gonna reward mia for taking a risk so giselle says andy so you know we had a whole discussion about our hair and all of us did together and we were just saying to help you because we've never seen your ears or your neck stacy yeah and says he goes well why do want to see my ears or my neck? Just to make sure you're a human and not an alien. I had never thought about never seeing Stacey's ears until she said it.
And then my mind started going through all of the shots of the season. I was like, I guess we have never seen her ears.
And she's like, well, I made a video of you. It's quite hilarious, Andy.
Arabebella loved it where i'm sitting in a makeup chair and i showed giselle my ears can we roll that roll that please i hate you you stupid i'm never giving you a dress again no that's the one of vivian can we just do the one of me in the makeup chair so they cut to that and she kind of lifts her hair up a little bit she's like look i have ears we did not see full ears in that what's going on with your ears why aren't you showing your spock ears show them let me tell you something those were those were snork ears okay she's from a different planet it's confirmed she's an alien it all makes sense now the way she acts stacy does act like an alien that has studied us and has come down to earth and has inhabited our forms and is doing a very close simulation of human but not quite nailing it she her eyes turn black she's got justin bieber and pope in her and the pope in her rolodex and she lives under the denver airport so the elevator lady yeah deb oh so then um yeah deb she was the best so stacy's like and i sent you that video and what did you say back i don't know what i said nothing you said nothing i showed you my ears and you said nothing um so then uh andy tells ashley, I do love your hair.
She goes, thank you.
Giselle says, he didn't say that to me.
He doesn't like mine.
He's like, no, sorry, Giselle.
I was talking to Ashley on that one.
All right, welcome back to the Real Housewives of Potomac Season 9 reunion.
We're joined by Jacqueline.
Wow, Jacqueline's looking a little different than when we saw her. What different Jacqueline whose baby are you impregnated with now he's like I'm expecting boobs are you expecting new boobs you know what congratulations with all due when are you due well I'm very excited I'm due in May wow and then Ashley's like, but did you notice, by the way, Jacqueline, did you notice where we are? And she's like, yeah, we're in Panama.
She's like, that's where we had our beautiful memory together. We should have a whole 30-minute segment about this.
And we see a flashback of them kissing briefly. And thankfully and shockingly, we did not dwell on their kiss for 30 minutes and five segments of this reunion.
It was like a one and done moment. And they just moved right on.
Yeah, I'm proud of production for recognizing their low points of the season and just trying to brush them under the rug, you know? So then Jacqueline's like, well, I can tell you this. The father has never been on Bravo or Graystar screen.
So let's put it out there now. It's another father,
everybody. And so, and he's like, oh,
well, that's good. We have
someone fresh, someone
fresh with a life to ruin,
basically. And Wendy's like, so
it's not peepee? It's not ink?
Who is it?
It's not ink. No.
His name is Dakota
and he lives in Salt Lake City.
Dakota from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives? Yes, yes. he has impregnated me.
So Ashley's like, was he at the premiere party? More to come. Stay tuned.
I guess if I get that champagne flute, you'll find out all about him. But until then, I'm going to use this leverage.
Oh, no, I'm still going to be a friend of. Okay, got it.
More to come. That's the last thing you need right now.
Okay. Okay.
Well, Mia, you've always led a complex life, but you gave the phrase love triangle a whole new shape. Let's take a look.
So we see Mia's package of lies and lies this season. Me and Inc are high school sweethearts.
Inc wants a paternity test for Jeremiah. And also, Gordon has mania.
You know, I really love Parks. Mania! Mania! So she starts to cry, of course.
It's not even that sentimental of a montage. And it's hard to re rewatch just because it's so blatantly manufactured for the cameras anyway well ink is not here today um he unfortunately thought got confused with the airlines and a roller coaster sign they thought he was not allowed on but that's okay we'll try to get him back next year um you recently announced that you've broken up what happened well you know it's very difficult when you're in a public relationship because people see it and then you think you could have done something different but i was married for 11 years oh and i'm a good mother and my kids are amazing.
Every day I work, even without crack the back, I walk around organizing brochures for people for free. All right.
Well, but your tagline is ink is permanent, which is so funny. And it's like, how could you break up? Yeah.
Well, you know, ink is my is my best friend and you know he is forever going to be part of my life but like do we need to be in an intimate relationship no i mean i can only have sex on a step stool so many times so andy's like well um well well camera from lens says the other i want to know the other lady's impression of ink, besides his height. So what were your impressions on the two of them as a couple? He's short, Andy.
Very, very short. I don't want to be long-winded, so I'll keep this short.
So Wendy tries it. She's like, he's a very kind, respectable gentleman.
But we can be honest, okay? You came on this show, and you brought in Outsider, and they don't know the backlash, right? So they got backlash, everyone calling him short, Apple Box, Tiny, etc. And, you know, the game that everybody was playing online where they said, let's toss ink back and forth.
You know, that sort of thing. So it's really hard because no one understands what this life is like until you're in an anti, you know, and then once it was shown to the world, he didn't like that.
And so, uh, Ashley was like, yeah, but he went a little bit hard with Gordon. It's not like he's just some victim.
Well, ink very much wanted to be on television. Uh,.
He wanted more camera time. I do not believe they broke up.
I think they're still together. And I think it's very clear that Mia is aware of being trashed on social media as it relates to throwing Inc.
in front of Gordon and the whole triangle and the disaster and the disgustingness of it all. So, yeah, they're still together.
Inc. lives in Atlanta.
Mia knows we're about to film again. So so Mia lives in Atlanta.
She doesn't even live in D.C.,
Maryland, or Virginia.
Yes.
So basically, they're still together,
but Mia's
just pretending they're not, so people will be nicer
on Twitter. So Mia's like,
why would you say that?
And Stacy goes, oh, she doesn't
live here?
I've never
heard of such a thing.
Thank you. And says, she doesn't live here.
I've never heard of such a thing.
Why?
I haven't moved at all.
Every interview you fly in for your interviews.
No, no.
I've been here.
That's a lie.
Well, I've heard people that are on the same plane as you.
You're in the back.
I do fly back and forth.
Yes.
Yes.
No, I didn't say you fly back. I said you're in the back i do fly back and forth yes yes no i didn't say you flew you fly back i say you're in the back of the plane i love that no i live here i have a condo here fine but if that's the lie you want to tell today it's not a lie it's facts i have a condo on one two three condo street so meet me there for coffee okay, where do your kids go to school? They're in private homeschool, Andy.
As opposed to public homeschool. I didn't even think of that.
I was like, wow, do they have to wear uniforms? They had to fill out an application. It was a very competitive process.
They had to beat out Tom Cruise's child to get into private homeschool.
So private homeschool,
they could do from anywhere in the world, correct?
She goes, and Jessica goes,
like Atlanta?
And she's like,
well, they have gone to Atlanta,
but they don't go back and forth every time.
Oh, okay.
So now every time insinuating
that you are constantly coming back and forth from Atlanta. Like, girl can you hear yourself she can't stop lying okay so as of october your thing was what do we think of ink and i gave my opinion about what i think of ink and now i'll be honest with you i feel as though you had this plan for you and ink that you orchestrated for the season and it backfired on you and i think you you saw that, you know, and it wasn't good for the brand and people weren't loving it.
And so you said,
let me drop ink and let me start posting pictures of Gordon again.
Yeah.
And,
uh,
she was like,
um,
hold on.
Let me just,
let me say in my defense,
she's in a shame spiral.
Give her some grace.
All right. She is getting divorced, though.
That's a lie.
Gordon and Inc.
They're all in on it.
There's no divorce.
And she says, but why?
Why would I do this?
What would be the reason?
And Andy says, yeah, for what benefit?
And Wendy goes, for this benefit.
Right here, the show.
The show.
And if you took that out, what would be left?
And Mia goes, Alain, i'm mia okay i just wanna be
there's a lot that i deal with you know there's gordon's mania and like wait a second we looked up the medical records. Corden has Beatlemania.
That's totally different.
Well, he loves the Beatles. What can I say? And that still is a type of maniac.
Well, Heavenly is worse from than we ever even knew. Said, did you tell your kids about the divorce for the first time on camera? Yes or no? She goes, um, so yeah, we had a con.
Well, what I wanted to do was go to therapy, but I just didn't get around to it. Oh, okay.
So you forgot to book a therapy appointment, so you told your kids on camera. Yeah.
And who was leading the charge on the paternity test? Was it you or was it Inc? It was Inc. He to know and okay so then what does jeremiah know about the conversations well the kids are not allowed on social media it's the first rule of private homeschool no phones whatsoever as a good parent and be i keep my kids off of social media so they don't know that i'm ruining their lives until later oh well you don't think he's going to find out like it's ridiculous if you think he's not going to find out i mean it's like well one thousand percent but right now he's nine i mean he doesn't even know english you know the education system in our private home schools is terrible these days in america so mia's like, you know, eventually I'm going to have to share with him because when he becomes a teenager in 15 years, it's going to be very scary.
Okay, well, you're going to have to explain that. It was a topic on this show.
1,000%. Anybody who thousand percents you is lying, apparently.
She says a thousand percent over and over. She says it's so many times.
Well, I mean, just like everything else we discuss is controversial. Okay? And I don't think this is something that I should have discussed in hindsight, because I do feel like I have to prepare for that.
You know, I'm a good mother. Alright, well, Cloudy with a chance of from Meatballs says, Mia, you talked about Karen needing to be real all season, but your stories about Gordon, Inc.
and the paternity were hard to follow. Don't you think it's hypocritical when you're not being transparent yourself i am being transparent i'm it's just a very wavering day by day thousand percent decisions am i being transparent yes am i jeffrey tambor's biggest fan yes but the situation here is very complex so kiana's like yeah but man these stories like stories don't add up because sometimes it sounds like you're crazy in all of us and then we were believing you and then we had to go out and see Gordon and we were believing you and then you said this baby and then you don't believe me and it's just like you're exploding over there, but you said you already knew this with the father of me.
Okay, well, I'm not can someone translate that for me? Yeah, here's a question. Was that Jeremiah talking? I barely understood that when he's like did didn't you conceive the child through ibf though she's like yes i did conceive him through ibf which was we all know stands for intervaginal ferocity it stands for the internet version of vanity fair which, which I was reading.
Internet Vanity Fair is where I conceived him. I got very horny reading a profile on Daniel Crank.
So last year, she said that she conceived through IU, not IUDs, because I've gotten to this last year. Do you remember? DUIs.
Do you? Don't take my storyline. IU, IURs or IUIs or something.
UNESCO, from a UNESCO, UN, UNICEF, thank you. Last year she said IUI or IU whatever it is.
And that is a different thing than IVF. That's where you put the, they basically, someone described it online as turkey-based string sperm.
It's called an IPO. It's called an initial pubic offering.
You offer up the sperm into the vagina and then the vagina has a baby. So, when is that? It's the IRS, Andy.
Wait, Texas impregnated you? No. It's intentional reality sperm.
It's to ZOA. All right.
All right, no one's buying this. goes but i did conceive through ivf but i could have been pregnant when i got the ivf so that's what happened and when he goes no that's not true want to know why it's not true because when you get ivf you have to take a pregnancy test she goes well in order for a positive pregnancy test you have to be four and a half weeks pregnant they're're like, no, they take a blood test and they can test your HCG immediately.
She's like, exactly. Your Herman Cock Groin, which is the procedure that I have.
As we all know, HCG stands for historically historically clogged garden glugger my HDTV levels were normal so they were able to do an IUD on my IVF it was okay Mia don't you just want to end this paternity stuff for your children? Do it. If Arabella wanted to, I would do it.
And she's like, 1,000%. I have, I have.
So we've done a professional private school test. Jeremiah is Gordon's child through IVF 1 ivf 1000 the results are in and jeremiah is half imf so congratulations so you can hear about it on cbs come burgling sycoph okay, great.
Well, Daddy from is probably been cheating this whole time says, Mia, you proclaim that you want to protect your children's innocence. How can you say that you want to protect them when you let adult conversations occur within their presence? Oh, for Christ's sake.
I don't know that that's a good question. I mean, what kind of adult conversations has Andy's kids heard? All right.
Well, just give me some grace. Well, you know, that has never happened until that day.
That was the first adult conversation, but we felt like after years of private homeschool that they were ready to interface with adults and they were getting along for an entire year and the two of them were like getting along. So I didn't think it was going to happen.
Yes, but Gordon told you he didn't want to film with Inc and he didn't know Inc was there when that scene happened. And then he when he gets there, he even says it.
He even says, I don't want to film with this dude. Well, that was when he was in mania.
So and we see a flashback of Gordon telling Inc, I told me I'm not filming with you when you and I are here together with the kids. I'm going to be very cordial, so have a good time without the kids.
I'm not interested. So then Giselle's like, he told you when the cameras are on he doesn't want to do that, but you thought it was good for the show.
You thought it was good for your little story. No, I think what I thought would be good is showing positive co-parenting, like showing that you can have a positive family home private school experience with a parent who has mania because that's what we've been doing for an entire year.
When I got divorced the first time, my ex-husband and Gordon are like really, really good friends. Mia, you were fucking ink before you even broke up with Gordon with your kids in the house.
I mean, come on, we've already gone over this. She's so frustrating and she can talk herself in circles.
And I like that they're not really letting her enter her whole thing. I was just trying to show a positive coping.
Yeah, we were consciously uncoupled like Gwyneth and Chris. So I just wanted to show everyone how it's done, you know? I thought, okay, why can't we do this again? All right, Jacqueline, you've been awfully quiet over there.
What's your reaction to this conversation happening on the show? It looks familiar. Okay, what does that mean? In terms of Gordon one moment being in one positive space, and then next moment he's in a negative space and i've seen gordon and ink get along and then there are other moments i'd see them like not get along so i feel like in this instance it was just like a bad situation that was caught it was unfortunate but the kids were there but i've told mia in the past i don't think she should mix you know ink and gordon and okay this is not as exciting as a response i It's open for you, so let's just move on from Jacqueline.
So your personal life seems to frustrate or annoy a lot of people, both your friends on the show and also the viewers.
Why do you think that is? Do you think you're just an annoying and frustrating person? Do you take it personally? Do you feel like you're a failure, Mia?
It's the lies, Andy, the lies. Well, I think whatever I'm going through, I'm open about it.
And
you know, it's my honesty, Andy.
You know, I mean, it is confusing.
I'm confused sometimes.
And so Kierna, who's talked more in this reunion
than we've heard her talk in two years,
is like, well, you know, it was just
toxic. And I can
see why Gordon was having several episodes.
Like, she's mania-shaming somebody. She's like, you're the cause of the mania.
Because Gordon is elderly, okay? And it's, I mean, it was basically giving elderly abuse that he kept doing this to Gordon. But he is the one that told the story.
And she's like yeah he did he did tell a story and so she protected him i did for years i allowed him to make me look like a liar which i'm not to make me look like i have my stories mixed up which as you heard very clearly when i got my icbm baby it was a very clear story because for a whole year they've been getting along and they've been co-parenting and the moment the cameras come on he then tries to make me look like a liar and he wanted to show up today to tell you guys to apologize to what he did to me because he knew damn well that's weird I don't believe that I don't believe it I don't believe it I don't believe it no I don't believe that and Jacqueline's like you don't believe he's bipolar I mean he's so bipolar i'm naming my next child mania i mean it's all that we've heard and uh mia's like i didn't want him to come on another apology tour so i told him just to stay home and giselle's like you sat here and said you regret the whole paternity thing and bringing it up you don't regret it because of your children and she's like she goes no you regret it because of twitter and if everybody was on board with it the world was on board with it you'd be fine with it and she goes well there are a lot of people on board with it i get so many dms from people who say after i went through icp bmi and had a baby and moved in with the guy. Everyone's just so unsupportive.
I'm a helpful person. Co-parents are everywhere thanking me.
One thousand percent. You don't understand how many people who've had difficulty conceiving and had to turn to IMDb to have a healthy pregnancy, how they've reached out to me to say, I went through the same thing.
So, you know what? People do like me. um so basically
as they've reached out to me to say, I went to the same thing. So, you know what? People do like me.
So, basically, Ashley's like, well, it seems like you had a motive to look at this whole thing as a production instead of being genuine. Oh, okay, Ashley.
I mean, Michael. How about say GNA? GNA.
GNA.
Yeah.
So Giselle's like, well, what it has to do with the journey of your child, that's just deplorable. We all know the only reason why you show children on the show is to show that they are going off to college for two seasons in a row.
I remember when we were in Miami and we were talking about the relationship with the group. and you said that we were like Destiny's Child,
but everyone's Michelle and you said that we were like Destiny's child,
but everyone's Michelle and you're Beyonce.
And they're like, what?
And Andy goes, wait a minute, who's Kelly?
You said that.
She said that.
And I was like, damn, at least I could be Kelly.
By the way, no shame in being Michelle.
Justice for Michelle. No shame.
Michelle, do you want to be on Real Housewives of Atlanta? And she's like, oh, totally. I love Michelle.
Personally. Personally.
We're friends. When he's like, okay, okay.
Then you guys can be Michelle. She can be Beyonce.
I'm Kelly, though. I'm Kelly.
And Mia goes, I ain't been drinking. She doesn't even deny it.
She's so beat down by this
point. She's like, I was drinking.
That's like the most honest
thing that she said all night.
Alright, well Trapper from
Keeper wants to know, Jacqueline, has Mia
always had an odd relationship with the truth?
Well,
Mia, for the most part with me,
she's very honest. I mean, has she
exaggerated about things? Yes. I don't know.
I don't think Mia always notices it, but I don't think she's a blatant liar. Just a habitual one.
Oh, thanks. Yeah, she's sharing that one.
She's told that to me. That's something that's common with us.
Yeah. Well, Poopy from Diaper says, Mia, if the conversations surrounding your child were bringing stress to your life, what made you think it was okay to bring up Giselle's daughters in even worse context? And then we see that your girls are sneaking boys in the house, and social media, you post like everything's perfect.
So she's like, you know, I didn't think it was okay, and that's actually why I apologized to her. And then you got to my face.
Then you, when she was a man, you jumped up from whatever you were sitting on. You got in my face and you tried to act like you were going to do something to me.
And we see unseen footage. I was like, wait, when she was a man? What? And then it was unseen footage from the night when Ashley was in drag, where Giselle was like, keep my children out of your mouth, Mia.
And then Mia got up and stood up and got in her face and, no, you keep my children out of your mouth. I haven't talked about your children.
Dang me. So then Giselle's like, you got in my face.
And Wendy's like, when was this? Did they show it? They're like, no, if it was at the end of the night, you weren't paying attention. And Giselle's like, they did not show it, but it happened.
My bodyguard was there. And he's like, well, you were saying I was a terrible mother.
And then Giselle goes, well, that's how you've acted this season. A terrible mother.
And I stand by that. No woman, no matter, no mother would put their children on a platform to discuss his paternity no mother would do that no mother i mean it's like and she gets up and runs off again i was like i thought it was great because like normally on these shows it's like you can never say that someone's a terrible mother like that's in fact when someone's being heinous and awful the one they say is, I will say that someone's a terrible mother.
Like, that's, in fact, when someone's being heinous and awful, the one thing they say is, I will say they're a great mother, but she's a fucking bitch, but she's a great mother. So for someone to say, actually, she's a terrible mother, I was like, kind of refreshing for someone to be honest.
Because, you know, half these women think that everyone else is a terrible mother on all these shows. And Giselle can always be the grossest, you know? And in some seasons, it's really infuriating when she's like on the wrong side.
But when she's on the right side of things, it's refreshing. Yeah, it is.
She's like, you're a terrible mother, terrible mother, and I stand by that. Yeah, and then when she walks off, Ashley goes, the truth hurts, I guess.
And Mia's like, no, my kids, you don't come for my kids. They're not coming for your kids.
I hate when people do that. When you criticize their parenting, they're like, do not come for my children.
They're not coming for your children. They're coming for you.
They're saying your kids are great and you're a terrible mother. Okay? Yes.
And Wendy's like, well, I don't do people doing shit and not being able to be accountable for this shit. Well, thank you, Wendy.
After all the shit she did, now you can get up and walk away.
Bitch, please.
So Keanu's like, you know, that's really unfortunate.
This is an environment where husbands and children should be off limits.
It's just like so, so sad.
Especially Greg's.
Greg should really be off limits.
And Andy's like, well, we're going to take a break.
We'll be right back.
I'm exhausted.
Let's go.
So they get up for a break and none of them can get out of their chairs, which is really funny. They have to help each other up.
And then we see Mia going back to her dressing room door. She's like, all right, please do my brush.
Please do my blush. So it looks like my head has been dipped in blush, but only only to my cheekbones.
Yeah. The straight line.
And she's crying. And then we hear, uh, Eddie's voice, uh, because he and Greg are catching up in the other dressing room.
And they had this moment, this moment, I'm sorry to interrupt, but like, this was so, this did not feel like an authentic moment. Cause Eddie goes, no, you know, we should, maybe we should help TJ see what's going on.
I was like, what, what is this weird community theater moment that they're having right now? But did you catch the day they kept cutting to the other people in the dressing room? I guess they were stylists or glam team or whatever. And they cut to a girl sitting in a chair behind them.
And was she wearing a silver hard hat? I don't know what the hell was going on, but I was dying laughing. Because sometimes we joke that doing glam on these shows is like a Home Depot worker has to come with a jackhammer.
Wax, wax, wax. And there was actually a girl in a hard hat, which I was cracking about.
So, yeah, this was very unnatural. But they're like, hello, Greg.
How wonderful to see see you i am happy eddie products available near you we should call tj tj is our good friend and greg's like yes we should call tj so they said they picked they call him they're like hey tj what's going on he's like oh well you know i had to get evacuated because of the fire a Working actor in LA. And Eddie's like, are you safe? TJ's like, yes, I'm very safe.
My home that's nowhere near the Pacific Palisades is safe. So TJ's like, all right, yeah.
He's like, yeah, so that's why I've been sort of trying to move stuff around, man. Yeah, man, yeah.
And Greg's like, okay, well, I'm glad you're okay. He's like, yeah.
And so Eddie's like, yeah, we're at the reunion. And TJ's like, yeah, I ain't going to that fake ass show with those fake ass people.
I miss you, old man. And so Eddie's like, wait, what? We got to lick her up next time you're in DC.
And then the screen fades to black. And then TJ's kind of blacked out.
Like, we don't see what's happening. They do a black and white thing where we don't really see what's happening.
And then Eddie goes, Oh, TJ, we had no idea, man. And he's like, Yeah, you should talk to that girl.
And Eddie goes, that was a lot. So then we cut back to the set.
And they're all, you know, still on break and stuff. And Wendy leaves her phone on the couch but here is a buzz so she gets it she goes oh shut the fuck up like what what wendy what wendy what is it wendy and she's just laughing because eddie has just sent her whatever tj said yeah i love john tj accusing the show of being fake with fake ass people i mean the show may be fake but like he is the fakest person of them all on the show and he's gonna eat wait and that's why he's mad because his fakery has been so blatantly exposed on a show that's already fake like if if that's if that if the one true thing that comes through is his fakery then yeah that sucks for So what do you think it's going to be? I don't know.
I don't know. Maybe it's going to be like a lie.
Maybe he's going to say that they did have sex and that she was like terrible in bed, you know? No, because they make it look like it's a huge thing against Stacey because she's confronted with it and she's like, that is a lie. So it looks like he's saying that he was hired or, you know, maybe the rumors are true that he was hired to be her boyfriend and she's just a big fat liar or something.
Those are the rumors online, but I have no idea what it could really be. Wow.
Well, we'll find out next week. I'm excited to see it.
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