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Hi, everyone.

Welcome back.

This is part two of a two-part recap.

If you're wondering where part one was, well, go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe so that way you always get your episodes.

But enough of that, let's get right back into the episode.

I do remember as a kid asking my parents if we could ever go to Meepos.

I was like, Can we go to Meepos?

And my mom was like, Where's that?

I was like, That's where Balky is from.

My mom was like,

Who?

She was like, Balky Barton.

Basically, you know, I think

my mom's Heather DeBrow, guys.

Let's just

face it.

I am not familiar.

Balky Bartakris.

Sounds poor.

No, we cannot.

Is he on TV land?

Getting back to this.

Katie said you told her that I roof feed you.

Okay.

And so Shannon's like, are you

kidding me?

She said that you, what?

Now we add Gretchen to the list.

Another person victimized by Katie.

She is saying that you make Gretchen's roof when we all know that Gretchen built her roof herself.

No, Shana, that's not what that means.

No, no.

But here's what I was going to say.

Tamara has heard from someone who has heard about this conversation

that Katie is relaying.

Is it possible?

in somewhere along the way that details were

blurred or relayed improperly or heard improperly.

Like, is it possible that Katie said to Kiki something like, oh yeah, Gretchen was telling me how Tamara tried to get her wasted, you know, so that way she'd like get blackout or something.

Yeah, and Tamra twists.

And then, like, and then someone says this,

sort of rephrases that and tells it to Tamra.

And then now it's at roofie level because that's what this all is about.

And Tamara is always, always claims, like, oh, well, you misheard, or it wasn't really like that.

When Tamara is the queen of taking a shred of something and spinning it out of control and making it sound like it was something else entirely, this is

every single time.

It's a Janet move.

It's a classic Bravo move.

She's like pulling a, well, I mean, I guess Janet took it from Tamara first.

So it's like a Tamra that Janet took, that Tamara's taking back now.

But yeah, it's a typical thing.

Like Gretchen probably talked about Naked Wasted and Tamara's like, oh, now she's accusing me of rooping her.

You know, it's like, no.

But, and we know that that's what it's about about because tamara tells us she's like 17 tamara and this is tamara's history you know she's like let me just rephrase this history let me reframe it because it was fucking horrible so let me just remind the audience what a not a big deal this was 17 years ago me and the girls would see our gretchen gretchen out wasted but then when we were together she was so prim and proper so i had a party and me and vicky were joking and we said let's get gretchen wasted naked wasted so we could see the real Gretchen.

That's what that meant.

This is naked meant, you know, not that she could get naked, but just, you know, because, you know, naked wasted like truth, naked truth.

So then, like, what a nice, wasn't it, was it nice of us to do that?

No, but that was it.

Nothing more than that.

No, that was not it.

You got Gretchen over there, applied her with shot after shot.

You didn't force her.

I mean, she did drink on her own, but you purposely got her as shit-faced as possible, then sent your fucking disgusting piece of shit son into the bathroom to try and like fuck her so that she would you would have evidence against her with her old man that she was dating at the time which could have led to sexual assaults and thank god gretchen was strong enough at that point to back that fucker off and it was all on microphone but you basically tried to get your son to kind of sexually assault gretchen in a bathroom you disgusting fucking pig so for you to bring that up now and act like everybody's being so dramatic all these years later when basically

not basically anything you're guilty you are guilty ma'am it's disgusting what's actually so funny to me and by the way we re we recently re-watched naked wasted because we recapped it um i like either actually a few years ago on our last tour like but two years ago we watched it and it was still like it was as wild as we remembered it like it holds up but um What's so funny is even if you just take Tamara, like just what she says here, just take out everything you just said.

Like let's just see, let's just take her defense right right here like oh we would see uh like gretchen out and about and she'd always be drunk and then she'd actually like act crimin proper around us on camera and we're like we want to show the real gretchen are people not allowed to get wasted at night at a bar and then if they show up for work on camera for the nation to be like i'm gonna try to like actually get my shit keep my shit together and actually try to like represent myself well.

It was like this defense that she's like, that's all we were doing.

I was like, you trying to expose like what you perceive as the real Gretchen is actually such a vicious, nasty thing that you're doing.

And you're being like, whatever, we're just trying to expose the truth.

Like, you're the liberator, like, you're the truth teller.

You're the one who has to champion authenticity.

This woman who's sitting here looking like she has a plastic pumpkin from Hot Spirit Halloween store taped to her face is going to talk about authentic people.

No, I'm not, I'm not going to take that.

Just

we don't have to go back to Naked Wasted.

So Gretchen's like, hell no, I didn't say that.

So she's like, I'm trying to comprehend this.

I mean, supposedly, Katie said this, but I have this weird feeling in the back of my mind.

I'm trying to consider the source that's telling you that she said this.

And I'm like, yes, Gretchen, duh.

Like, you're immediately going to sit down and believe Tamara.

I mean, I hope that not even you are that dumb, you know?

So she's like, yeah, I don't believe that.

And Shanna's like, okay, well, then ask her tonight.

And Tamara's like, well, I got told.

i got told by two people who are your people tamara once again

tamara tamara that's like you've been going and talking to bloggers a not only are you one of the bloggers part of the ecosystem of content creators bravo content creators that we're all part of but you talk to two other people like it's like how do you not see how like why is it like like katie's not allowed to like be a little messy on the side with content creators, but then like, but you are.

I just don't understand this.

Like, just, I just say, all of you just get messy and just have fun with it.

Yeah.

Stop with all this, like, sanctimonious, like, how could you?

You're like, how could you, how could you betray the circle in this way?

Kind of God.

Yeah, it's ridiculous.

So, Shannon's like, well, I mean, just put the recording aside.

Forget the recording for an.

I am limited over this.

I have something new now.

And how

dare you?

How long have you been holding on to that camera?

How long?

And she's like, four weeks.

Are you kidding me?

Are you kidding me?

You had to hold on to that terrible information that Katie said that.

Gretchen said, by the way, you've been holding on to this information, which is that...

What is Tamara upset about?

Is she upset about that Gretchen said it to Katie?

Is she upset that Katie said this to Kiki?

I don't understand what it is.

Yeah, I don't either, but this never came out.

So Kiki never said anything, and Katie never said anything.

The only reason this is coming out is because Tamra's bringing it out.

So, if Tamara's bringing it out, she's doing it on purpose.

So, why is she making Gretchen think that the rumor is that Gretchen was roofied?

But

how is that going to make Gretchen look bad?

It still only makes Tamara look bad.

Like, why is she bringing that shit out?

Because you know, there's people who are like, Well, did she roofie her?

You know, like, I don't really get Tamara's motivation in this, and I think Tamara is kind of losing her touch because she used to be very good at manipulating everybody and getting stuff out there but this isn't even a good one like well she's trying to get grudge into turn against katie she's trying to be like hey just so you know this person that you're standing up for that you said has never done anything to you she's going around telling people the media that that you are making claims about roofies but like it's even that's like

like it's just not the strongest like turn, like not loyalty shifting rumor.

Like you should be horrified to know that someone's saying that you're accusing me of roofing.

And I know you would never make an accusation like that.

So she's saying you would make an accusation that's way more exaggerated than what happened.

Like it's not even that strong to turn someone against someone.

It's confusing.

It is very confusing.

I can't even say it straight without having to like double check that I'm saying it right.

Yeah, it's confusing because like, what's the motivation?

So Katie, so I'm going to get you mad because Katie told a blogger something that you said in private.

But then that's like, well, wouldn't her first question be like, did I roofy you?

I don't know.

This whole thing is crazy.

And I don't like why Tamara's even bringing this up publicly because it only makes Tamra look bad because it brings back Naked Wasted, which I know that she thinks she can reframe that everybody's stupid.

And it's too long ago that no one's going to remember that she tried to have her son attack Gretchen or whatever happened there, which

That's not really far from the truth.

It was a pretty gross episode.

So she's, Tamara's just making herself look bad.

Like, how badly are you losing your touch here?

She's just, um, she's not being patient.

That's her problem because normally she's patient and she waits for Katie to slip up and say something about Gretchen.

And that's why she's anytime I think she's been nice to Katie, she's just been trying to get stuff that she can use against her.

And she just hasn't been able to get anything where she can say to Gretchen, hey, Katie said this about you.

So the best that she has is, Katie said that you said this thing about me, which is a gross exaggeration.

And now you should be mad that she she mischaracterized the way you

said that I treated you.

Well, it does make me strong enough.

But it does make me wonder because Gretchen did drink that night.

Like we saw, we just recapped it.

So she did have a lot of shots and stuff that night that they were feeding her.

But why would Tamara say she said I roofied you?

Because there's no way to go back and prove that Tamara didn't roofie Gretchen.

And if she did,

if Gretchen did say that Tamara roofied me, I would believe it because she was was completely out of it that night.

So why would Tamara put that in people's heads is what I'm saying?

There's no way to prove that Tamara didn't roofie the girl.

So it's just like a very sloppy thing for Tamra to put out there to the public.

Because if Gretchen said Tamara roofied me that night, I'd believe her.

But she also would have said it.

And she mentions this.

She's like, it's been 12 years.

I would have mentioned it by now.

She's like, I'm not above mentioning.

I'm, I'm Betty.

I will do this.

I responded to your daughter's Facebook thing.

Like, if, you know, if, I could have done this, if I could have accused you of roofing me, I would have.

Or is she trying to trick Gretchen into saying what you did that night wasn't that bad?

And it's no big deal.

I never would have said roofy because then that gets Tamara kind of off the hook for that night.

I just, I'm just trying to understand the motivation.

It's making me crazy.

No, I think, I don't think, I think the motivation, I think it's truly that some, I think, I believe that it was the comment started off like Tamara got me blackout and Katie says blackout, and I think blackout, something like blackout, or I couldn't remember anything, and Tamara did this to me, and then somehow it gets back to Tamara, and either Tamara hears Roofie or someone says Roofie, but like to me, it's like very obviously a game of telephone,

and

it's silly.

So

back in the voodoo parlor,

they all are sitting around a table where there's a, there's a, they're all doing arts and crafts, their voodoo, the voodoo things.

And Mary, the bloody Mary, is like, okay, everyone, pick up your doll.

And I'm going to do a group zap.

And then an individual waking.

Is that a part of voodoo?

Is that like...

Why are you asking me?

I don't fucking know.

We're going to get

everyone.

We're going to get Tamara's Evil Infinity Stone.

Bring these things to life.

Hold us still.

Hold us still.

And Katie's like, it's a him, actually.

She goes, okay, it's a boy.

I baptize you in the name of what's his name?

Matt.

Okay, basic.

I baptize this basic little baby.

Okay, hold it tight.

I'm gonna slap it.

Boo.

Aye, boo.

I eat.

Okay, okay, I eat.

That's kind of like I'm in hallelujah, but it's in voodoo.

Okay.

By the way, there is something called Zap's voodoo potato chips.

So maybe that's where she got it.

Okay, everyone, we're gonna have potato chips after this.

I'm in.

Okay.

I'm back.

I'm back.

Ooh, I like to be spanked.

This is fun.

Just stay away from the face.

I don't want to have another surgery.

And neither does my doll so mary's going around baptizing all the dolls everything's like i baptize you in the name of gina i feel ma'am i feel baptized and gina's like i'm so intrigued by voodoo like most people think it's like evil spirits and dog you know and then accustomed mary being like just remember to feed it on a regular basis add things to it everything you do add it with purpose it's your ancient and voodoo vision board which is really all she needed to start with is like tell these women that they'll be making a vision board and they would have been been all been on board from the beginning.

Yeah, oh my god, this is crazy.

My voodoo doll is already living in a tiny shoebox with 19 other voodoo dolls.

The box says cursive, and it says box.

I put a pin in my voodoo doll, and I felt bad about it.

But then, what was worse is that my voodoo doll said, I feel bad, I literally feel bad.

You put a pin in me.

Wow, did someone just poke me?

feel weird.

Okay, dress it for different occasions, put it away, put it to sleep, you know, those kinds of things.

Okay, well, let's not talk about putting myself to sleep.

So, Tamara's like, well, I don't want to go back with you on everything, Gretchen.

I just want to be friends with you.

It's me and you.

We're such good friends, right?

I mean, I wasn't in a good place at the time.

I'm so mad to Simon for crying out loud.

I mean, look at you.

You're so cute.

You're just so beautiful, Christian.

I'd love to be friends with you.

Maybe one day I can give you back your voice.

Your voice.

Your voice.

However, the things that Tamara's always been good at is like making you feel like there's hope for change for like moving forward.

And like, yes, in my soul, like my soul wants to believe is true because I want that for her and I.

I absolutely do.

Do, do.

Tamara's like, I've been caught at Tamara because I thought maybe you did tell her that.

And now, now that I know that you didn't say that I roofed you I 100% believe you God what a bitch Katie is we all hate her right I can tell by your reaction you hate her you love me you're part of us now

guys I literally can't

I can't be back in this shit again you guys I'm serious I can't be back and Gretchen like starts like

What are you doing back here, Gretchen?

You can't be in this shit again.

You came back to Real Housewives.

You've been clawing your way back into Real Housewives of Orange County since you left.

Don't start crying now.

You're finally in it.

Rejoice.

Well, Katie is insinuating that Tamara committed an eagle, an illegal act, and that is bad.

And that takes Katie's issues with everyone, every single one of us, to another level.

And I want to get to the bottom of this.

And by this, I mean this bag of beignets that I just picked up.

Should we pause for a snack?

No?

And I think everyone's going to want to get to the bottom of this.

So now everybody's getting ready for dinner.

And, you know, it's time to go on to the next fight scene.

That's the preamble.

So Jen is talking to Ryan.

And she's like, I'm going to bring this picture up tonight.

And she's not going to hide from it.

And

then in Heather's room, she's on the phone with.

Terry having a wacky scene about walking the Mardi Gras puppy parade.

And he's like, oh, you showed your boob for beads.

Just tell me.

Tell me you did.

She goes, oh my God, I wouldn't show my boobs.

Are they diamond beads?

I don't think so.

I'm not Wendy Malik taking off her top just so she could be in some TV show with Harrison Ford.

I'm not Daisy Fuentes.

Okay.

Wait for the diamond boobs.

Travis slutting it up so that way she can get an extra refill at Starbucks.

Captain Travis.

So in Shannon's room, Shannon's a mess as usual.

Her hair is all sticking up.

I think her goal tonight is to go from the mom and married with children.

I'm not really sure what Shannon's doing, but she's trying.

And I'll tell you what she's doing.

She is not rolling over and she is not going to come jumping back into her friendship with Tamara.

Hell to the no.

She will not jump back into that friendship.

So Tamara comes over and they key key.

Yeah.

Tamara's like, hey, girlfriend.

Hey, Bessie.

Pink promised all stuff.

This is so fun.

It's so fun.

Being back to Shannon.

My little best friend.

God, Mrs.

Sombus.

God, no one can drink with me like Shannon can.

Yeah, girl.

I think I just peed in my pants again because I'm so happy to see my best friend who I am not going to be friends with anymore.

Get on over here for a hug.

So Shannon's like, what's in your glass?

And Tammy goes, ah, it's just water.

And we see the water.

It's literally like the color of Pinot Grigio.

It's like, it's either Pinot Grigio or you are getting your water from a very dangerous source.

Well, I'm a little bit nervous, okay, Shirley, but tell you

the facts.

We best friends.

Can I brush your hair?

Can I brush your hair, Shirley?

I love you so much.

Okay, you know what?

You know, I'm just nervous for the day because I don't know exactly how to bring it up.

You know, it's just so deep.

It's so dark.

Talking about Rubies and stuff like that.

Shirley, Rufies are really good.

And Shannon's like, well, you know what?

I just want to remind the audience, I am not jumping back into a situation where where we are brushing each other's hair and braiding it.

But yes, Tamra, you can brush my hair since you did ask.

You know what?

Hearing what you said today, I am so livid about it.

And it took me about 45 minutes to actually parse it out and figure out what you were really saying.

But then once I did figure it out, I decided I was pretty much still livid about it.

And Tamara's like, yeah, because I feel like Shannon and I are back to a really good place.

It feels great to have her on my side.

It really does.

Like, I have your back, girl.

Yeah, it's like, it's so good being best friends again.

Okay, take care, Seth.

Get ready.

We're gonna be downstairs waiting for you, okay?

Don't forget your phone, and don't forget your underwear.

Shake the little hole, drunk bitch.

I said that in a friendly way.

Alcoholic best queen.

So glad we're back to being besties.

Oh, God.

Tamara trying to be nice.

Tamara is killing me.

It's so fucking funny to see it.

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So then the other ladies, everyone's like climbing into the car.

And Gina's like, oh my god, I can't go in the back today.

I feel like a sausage.

And Heather goes, you don't look like a sausage.

You look like a box that arrives from UPS.

You know, very square, long, wide, unflattering, bad color for you.

Does anybody have a blue light?

Just kidding.

What do you mean?

Okay, okay.

You know what?

You look great, Tina, whatever.

It's not about you today.

Okay, did.

So Shannon comes and she's in her own car.

She's like, well, did Tamara already leave her that we were best friends again?

I guess his sisterhood needs to take a little hike.

I don't know.

Oh my God, I still have a beignet on my knee.

How did I get a beignet on my knee?

This is delicious.

Oh, I just remembered.

It's because I had the driver pull over at the beignet stand and I bought three of them and I left one on my knee by accident.

I said, this will be a treat for later.

And guess what?

It's been about 45 seconds.

Back ounces later.

Now, Jen goes over to Gretchen's room.

It's like, oh my God, why are you not ready?

She's like, I'm not ready.

I needed to talk to you first.

I'm wearing a bathrobe.

It's a bathrobe of sadness.

I just haven't seen you since the whole voodoo thing.

And, you know, I...

And then back in the car, Gina's like, what did you do when you ran out of the voodoo?

Well, I had heart to heart with Gretchen.

My new best friend.

What a good person.

Yeah.

Oh, was it a good heart-to-heart?

Like, yeah, we talked about Katie and we talked about how shitty she is.

So yeah, it was a great heart to heart.

Oh, okay.

Oh, God.

You did not do that, Tamara.

You did not.

Flop hand, flop hand, flop hand.

So then back to Gretchen.

She's like, you know, Tamara, all of a sudden, she says to me, like, I heard, like, bloggers, like, that Katie told them that, like, I told Katie that Tamara roofied me the night of the naked wasted.

And I was like, wait, wait, wait, what?

And Jenna's like, wow, I don't know if I followed that, but Naked Wasted,

is that a brand?

I love their work.

No, no, no.

But I don't know even if I, how I feel about that.

So then we go back to the other car and Tamara saying oh Katie said that I roofied her and Heather's that she roofied her

what the literal fuck like what like was this about your like at Heather's party you were saying something about some story that she planted or something is it there and Tamara's like that was illegal

I don't trust Katie, but I think Tamara's an all-opportunity coin of girl.

So Tamara is like, am I to ask how that's going to bring it up tonight?

I'm like, yes, it will be you because you're the only one who seems to care about this right now.

Yeah, you're the one who brought it up in the first place, you dummy.

So Gina's like, well, I'm going to get Katie signed in the story because I don't know what to believe.

So then Katie comes over to Gretchen's hotel room and

she tells her and Katie's like, well, Gretchen says, yeah, you know, I got told Tamara by Tamara that you went to bloggers and you told them this crazy story that Tamara roofied me.

And she's like, No.

She goes, You never went to a blogger?

She's like, No.

And so Katie's like, Okay, so now this is coming together.

Tamara said to me, The quiet woman, I didn't want to bring it up, but you told something, something about me.

Tell something, something about me.

It's really bad, Katie.

And I had it from two people.

They said something to somebody about something about something, somebody, something somewhere sometime.

Katie's like, What did I say?

I'm not going to say it because it was really bad.

And I don't know, maybe, maybe if I just say it because it's so bad, maybe I'll roof you afterwards so you don't remember.

Ha!

Okay, so Heather is questioning if I'm planning stories with Kiki Monique.

And we see flashback to two weeks before when Heather's like, I heard you were asking Kiki to put out stories to hurt us.

And Katie's like, and I feel like this has all been a plan since they've the very beginning to make me look like a bad person.

Why is she doing this to me?

So Katie's like, well, I'm not going to just lie.

I didn't do that.

And I know you have your doubts right now, but hand to God, I didn't do it.

I mean, God, it's never ending with these people.

So Gretchen's like, well, when she said this, I was just like, wait, what?

But then I got back and I started talking to Slaytons.

And then like, that doesn't even sound like something Katie would do.

And Katie's like, well, I didn't do it.

So Gretchen's like, well, all of a sudden, I just felt like i'm getting bamboozled over here by somebody telling me that this is what happened so that i come i'm she's trying to get so i come at you and i freak out at you and i get pissed out off at you and this is by the way all feeling like the traitors which by the way announced that they will be doing this all civilian season coming up by the way by the way by the way by the way Boring.

So Gretchen, yeah, I love Gretchen slowly figuring things out.

It's like, I feel like maybe I got bamboozled.

Yeah, Gretchen, It's like beautiful mind numbers flying around her head, but they're like one plus one, plus one.

It just takes her forever.

You know, it's like, wait a minute, maybe she said it.

So I get mad at you,

but then I would be mad at you.

Wait a minute, I've got it.

Yes, yes, Gretchen.

She connected the dots.

All two of them.

So Gretchen is like, well, she's basically like, no, when you have have to deal with an individual that's willing to go and get the greatest lengths to destroy people, to harm people, to hurt people.

It's just hard to believe that person over the person that's never shown that to me in their life.

Huh?

So, Jen is like, Okay,

well, how much time do you need?

Because we've got to go to dinner.

And you know, if you're going to take 15 minutes, that's 15 more minutes I have to find this former fatty photo of mine.

It's really bothering me.

Have you guys seen this photo?

So, Heather is like joking about making Shannon some dating pictures for Raya.

And then we see a fake bio for Shannon.

Shannon, 61, interested in love, likes my dog Archie, the quiet woman, lemons, mine in a bowl, golden door, dislikes liars, bad teeth, plates, sound bowls, and houses that go too far into the street.

Men who don't like vegetables.

So

then Tarama's like, guess what Shannon had told them?

And Shannon's like, oh, she told you, Heather?

And Heather's like, oh, yeah, we heard.

We heard all about it.

So Tamara's like, so who's going to sit next to me?

So there's like a question because like everyone who's still arrived, still due to arrive at dinner hates Tamara.

So they're laughing about this.

By the way, Tamara is also.

blatantly trying to get Gina to fall into her trap, which I thought she would, which is that Tamara's not going to bring this up at dinner.

Tamara's going to sit there and all angry.

And then Gina's going to be like, you know what?

I feel bad because Katie, look at Tamara over there because like I found out that you've been telling people that Tamara's roofering everyone in county and that's just not nice yeah she's been doing it this whole time like guys am i gonna have to be the one to bring this up i'm gonna tell half this cast this stuff so at least there's a chance that one of you is gonna bring it up one of you is gonna bring it up right guys and no one does like she's starting to fail by the way she shows up to this dinner with possum eyes on a thousand they're completely black like completely blacked out and she's doing that little squint i mean she's just looking

tamara she is just like a hundred she's been marinating in Tamara juice on her way here.

She's like shown up ready to rumble.

So Shannon's like, well, can we talk about how Katie is late?

I'm just kidding.

I'm just kidding.

So then in the car, they're talking about Tamara being like.

so manipulative and you know she's so good at making you question yourself so then at the table um tamara's like wait a minute what if my plan doesn't work okay what else my what's plan b okay guys

i didn't consider this but what if gretchen did tell katie that i roofied her so let's all be prepared to get mad at gretchen if gretchen doesn't follow through by being mad at katie by being mad at gretchen for spreading the rumor that i roofied gretchen okay everybody got it

heather and gina are like she did it

so katie is so then they walk in and katie's like you know when you walk into a room and they're all talking about you it's awkward i'm like yeah welcome to this show so emily's like why were you guys so late it was me.

Because Gretchen is like, I was taking forever.

So it's awkward.

And, you know, they're making sort of small

talk and everything.

And like Tamara's saying, she has hiccups.

So Heather's like, can you scare her, please?

Here, here's a photo of Wendy.

You just show it in her face.

So Tamara's just like,

Little bubbles are coming out of her mouth.

And so she's like, Gretchen, you're not going to talk about the bestie?

Hey, Gretchen, you want to tell us that just meet me that Gilbert.

So they go talk privately.

And she's like, am I going to bring it up tonight?

Are you going to bring it up?

Do you not want me to bring it up?

Because it's just so nasty.

It's so mean.

Do you want to bring it up?

You want to use the smartphone?

I know.

I wrote out some cute cards for you if you needed just some prompts to help you along.

So Gretchen's like, uh, and Tamara's like, she's like, wait, did you talk to her about it?

What did you say?

She goes, well, she said that she didn't do it.

She goes, and do you believe that she said that?

She's like,

yeah.

And so then Katie comes out to the gets up because she knows they're talking about it.

So Shannon's like, wait, wait, wait, is Katie going?

Is she going to the bathroom?

Is she going to the radio shack to get another tape recorder to record me?

What is happening with Katie right now?

Is she going to the bathroom or the live room?

The live room.

Okay.

Now, did you guys hear about what's happening today?

A lot of shit.

Okay.

Do you know?

And Jen's like, I think I understand it.

There was a show on while I Love Lucy was airing something about being wasted while you're naked.

I'm really not sure.

I just, I'm too young to remember that far back.

Jen, how do you feel about this?

She's, well, you know, I've, I've had a lot of conversations with Gretchen, and if Gretchen felt like she was roofied, I think she would have heard of that.

You know, I think she would have said that.

So Gina's like, honestly, Jen, she would have loved to have brought this.

Like, she would have loved to have talked about being roofied.

So now out in the hall, now it's Katie, Tamara, and Gretchen.

And,

you know, Katie is denying that she talked to Kiki about this.

And Tamara's like, so, so, why did I get like two people reach out to me and tell me the same story?

Why, why, why?

And Tamara's like, like, I mean, she's like, you know, somebody, like, what Katie says, who was it?

And she's, someone who doesn't want to be named.

I cannot reveal my sources.

You're too good at a person.

I won't reveal my sources.

Deep in throat.

Welcome, deep in throat.

And Katie's like, um, well, it's not true.

And Gretchen says, I mean, I was really looking forward to moving, moving forward with you.

And I'm like, I still want to have a talk with you.

So we can either harp on this.

She goes, wait, are you saying I pulled this out of my ass, Gretchen?

She's like, no, I didn't say that's what happened.

I just asked, like, listen, she said she didn't do it.

She's like, okay, whatever.

And she just like storms off all pissed because it didn't work.

So she storms back to the table and she's like, plan B, Gretchen believes believes katie

get what get her everybody what's the what

it's a fucker we were best friends me and gretchen been best friends for years i just got betrayed by not getting accused of roofing her it's a betrayal how dare you not accuse me of roofing you

you know she was sad when i told gretchen she was saddy with me hey was this just an act with gretchen is she a liar all along is she a fake person is she the most fake person here on this cast because what she said is is illegal and a lie so now you have tamara and shannon both saying they did something illegal i mean they're both like on this crusade so now katie and gretchen return and shannon's like wow congratulations katie you ate the last beignet congratulations i guess none of us get dessert now Your excuses worked for one person.

Oh, Shannon, be quiet.

Like, have your own things to be mad at.

She is so out of, she is so out of order.

And I love, so, and I love Katie just being like, oh my god shannon whatever whatever yeah whatever you're not involved well i i i i'm angry my anger is involved i was voodooed by i was voodooed by i was i'm a victim of voodoo right now and you did the doll

katie's like yeah we got it shannon everybody knows you're angry i'm loving watching katie deal with shannon because shannon is just doing her indignant lady thing and katie is like

She left her sandwich.

Shut up.

Yeah.

Every single person, and this is when Shannon does that thing where she points, like, she points at everyone, like, like she's trying to do, like a magic spell on them really quickly.

Like, every single person at this table, why is my finger wand not working?

I'm working.

I'm whacking my finger wand.

Every single person at this table, except Jen, you have hurt.

And Jen is already hurt because there's a former fatty photo of her, so let's give her some space.

Okay, every single person has been hurt by you, Katie.

You.

Okay, well, I've owned it when I've done something wrong, Shannon.

Oh, oh, you've owned it.

Well, who wants to be around someone that hurts an entire table of people?

Including the table itself.

Look, look, look at this table.

It's crying.

Tears on my kneecaps.

And Katie just rolls her eyes.

She goes, oh my God, I didn't say it.

Oh, you stop lying.

I'm loving watching all of this blow up in Shannon's face, kind of with the audience, because Shannon is just like on a mission from the Lord in this, in these episodes.

She is so convinced that she's correct.

I almost think this thing with Katie is so over, her reaction to Katie is so over the top.

I almost feel like Shannon wants to be friends with Tamara again, but she doesn't want to deal with all the shit that people will give her.

So it's almost like she just needs something.

So, like, this is the opportunity to get mad at Katie.

And so that way it's like, it's like, okay, like, you can see, like, Tamara had my back all along.

We are good friends.

It's like, it's like, she's so over the top mad about this recording that happened when you're on a show that's recorded that, like, I feel like there's like an ulterior psychological motive going on.

Yeah, like she needs to make somebody worse than Tamara, you know, so that Tamara's not the bad one, so she can be friends with her guy.

I mean, yeah, I think you're right,

yeah, like, look, she's been sticking up for me.

That makes sense.

So, Heather's like, I love Shannon, but she can.

Oh, I'm sorry, what were we gonna say?

No, I was gonna say, like, because Shannon is screaming in the restaurant now.

The waiter comes by and she goes, I can't stand you.

I can't stand you.

I was like, What You're like, she's, she's making a scene.

Yeah, she's being, she's being pretty terrible this season, which is hilarious to me.

Don't necessarily change, but wow.

That's what she does.

She alternates back and forth.

So she's like, Katie, I'm going to say this is someone who just wet their pants 10 minutes ago.

You are known as the leak in this group.

And that is something in this group.

That is something.

From the bottom to the top, from the windows to the walls, to the sweat drops down, my balls.

So then Heather is like, It's too much.

It's too much.

And so Gretchen's like, Well, where's the proof that any of this happened?

I mean, hey, and I haven't seen anything.

So I'm just supposed to be like, oh, fuck you, and come after her.

That's what you want me to do.

And Heather's like, no, no, no, no, no.

I get that.

I get that.

And Gina's like, I think she's struggling because it's a friend.

I was like, wow, Gina, really picking up on the nuances of the situation.

She doesn't want to just say, oh, fuck you, Katie, because she doesn't know, you know, like I feel me

that's difficult that's difficult okay i agree point for gina point for gina everyone and also guys beyond all of this speculation i didn't do it so there's that as well gretchen's like yeah this person has done so much to me tamara i mean do you really think i'm just gonna believe this no channel's like there are multiple reputable reputable reporters barbara walters called from heaven she was maybe one of the people There are people who report things with reputations.

You don't know who they are.

Well, she said it was Barbara Walters called, and then she said, Hold on, I've got Cokie on the other line.

Wanted to make it a

three-way.

So it was Cokie and Barbara from ABC Heaven, and they were both reporting on this.

And they see everything reputable.

Reputable.

Jack shows up.

He's like, Where?

Where?

Not that Cokie Jacks.

Go away.

This is not your show.

Also, I can guarantee.

Oh, sorry.

No, no, you're not going to be able to.

I'll guarantee.

Sorry, I keep stepping on you.

I don't mean to.

I can guarantee you that there are not multiple reputable reporters reporting on Kiki Monique hearing gossip at lunch.

No, there's literally Tom Brokaw is not at lunch like, well, did you hear about Kiki Monique and what she heard from a lady from Orange County?

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So Gina is like, well, I don't know why Tammy would think that Gretchen would ever believe anything that came out of her mouth.

Like, has this ever historically gone well for these women in the past 12 years?

No.

So Jen is like, did you ever ask Kitty about it?

No.

No, because she didn't want it to be a thing.

When it wasn't the vacation yet.

I wanted to ask Gretchen, and today she was disgusted.

She was crying back when we were best friends.

Remember, Gretchen?

And she's like, I wasn't crying.

I was just like, I mean, I was like, what?

Jen was like, yeah, you were.

You were crying.

You were so upset about it.

You were so upset about it.

I was there for you.

I remember.

I started patting you on the back.

I've sewn up your wounds.

I was like, okay, see, Gretchen, we're best friends.

She's like, well, I mean, okay, I was emotional.

And Joan's like, okay, so let's just all have it out then.

Where's the picture, Tamara?

What?

Where are you my picture?

The former fatty photo, the thing that everyone's been talking about, the thing that's on top of everyone's minds.

Everyone wants to know, where is this photo?

And Tamara's like, that's not what tonight's scene is about, though, bitch.

But

it's, I need to see this photo.

We all want to have Katie come to the table, okay?

We want, we want Katie to come to the table.

And if everyone's been hurt, well, everyone's been hurt here by you as well.

Which I like that she mentioned that.

Like, okay, well, like, you guys are saying that Katie's hurt everyone, but like, Tamara, like, let's be real here.

Tamara's one who's really hurt people.

So like, what was the intent of the picture with me?

I've been asking, I've been asking, I've been hearing about it.

Where's the former fatty photo of me?

And I love that Tamara goes, I don't care about that.

Well,

it's not about what you care about.

You're not to care about.

Yeah.

You're the one.

She goes, I was just

retaliating because you keep telling me.

She goes, no, you were retaliating because I'm obsessed with you.

And so then you start showing pictures of me.

She's like, but I was like, you reached that to me in 2013 as a fan.

And you're like, hey, she goes, what are you talking about?

By the way, are we on something?

I mean, are you on Xanax?

Because Tamara does have black eyes and she is so furious that her plans aren't working.

She's doing a bad job.

And it's just not like Tamara.

And I think just as cast members on the TV show, they're like.

You're not even doing, you're always a horrible person, but you're not even being a horrible person while today.

Like, are you okay?

Like, you're fucked up.

What's wrong?

She's like, like, what are you talking about?

Are we on something?

I mean, Xanax or something?

You're not even making sense.

Just stay on track.

Okay.

We're supposed to be having a fight.

And Emily's like, you know what?

The issue is here.

It's the whole thing here.

What you're saying is that she's obsessed with you.

Like, to me, that's a deflection of what's real.

The real root issues between the two of you.

And Jen's like, yeah, what is the issue?

I don't know.

What is it?

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know first.

No, I don't know first.

No, I said it first.

No, I don't know.

I don't know until affinity.

What?

That's not allowed.

That's not fair.

Until Until Affinity, I don't know.

And now Emily and Gina just start laughing because this is making no sense.

And Tamara's like clearly fucked up, right?

So Tamara's like, well, I think it's been like a tip for tat ever the past two years, you know.

And Gretchen goes, okay, but where did it start?

That's none of your fucking business, Gretchen.

You're not my best friend no more.

She goes, okay then.

Yeah, you don't know what Gretchen's stupid Gretchen is.

I can't believe we were best friends for 10 years.

Stupid.

See, it just takes a little time and it always creeps right back out.

Unlike my former fatty photo, where is it?

But there's a nicer way to say that.

Tamara's like, yeah, but Gretzen doesn't know nothing.

So that's what I'm trying to say, Heather.

How much should that be when I'm saying Grets didn't know nothing?

Gretson doesn't know anything.

Okay, there.

Stupid.

She means it's stupid.

Gretson's stupid on her.

She knows a lot.

She knows a lot.

Thank you so much for pointing out that she knows a lot.

And Tamara's like, what?

What you told her?

And Kitty's like, what?

Tamara's like, what do you mean?

What?

Well, I'm asking Jen.

Fuck off.

She's like, I'm not.

I'm not going to fuck off.

You know what?

All right.

You know what?

Then Gina out of nowhere goes, all right, you know what, Tamara?

You're being rude and you're sloshed.

I'm sloshed?

Yeah, that is what's happening here.

Yeah.

And I'm not being, and Tam's like, you're being rude.

I'm not being fucking rude.

You're being fucking rude to everybody at this table, Tamara.

This is actually my table, and I don't appreciate that.

I was like, do you know how Travis and I work for this table?

Who?

Who?

Travis.

I don't understand.

Is that the waiter?

And Gina's like, it's too much.

I mean, it's too much.

Like, you got one eye open.

You got no idea what's going on.

Look when she did that.

You got one eye open because it cuts the tamer.

Tamra's like, do this.

You got no idea what's going on.

Like, don't comment the one sober person at the table.

Cause, like, I'm just too sober for this shit in general.

and it's not fun to be in the middle of all your bullshit Tamara and Heather goes for any of us which was the real stab because Heather is the one that's completely on Tamara's side all the time so that was a real stab and also for people to know about the fatty photo it must have been Heather telling everybody so Tamara is really getting her ass handed to her at this table yeah So Emily's like, Jen, what would you need?

You know, I say table it.

I don't think tonight is the night.

I do agree with a little bit of what gina's saying i don't know what's going on you don't seem like you're in your right mind to be totally transparent you don't and it's just amazing because they're all like you're wasted and tamara has just had a little scene where she declared she does not drink anymore and you won't see a drop of alcohol in her when she has conversations anymore and so now she's been busted like i mean this is i mean to

to really flop this hard in five hours yeah it's embarrassing i mean

she's just sitting there like, oh my God, what do I do now?

Plan A, Phil, Plan B, Phil, even Heather turned on me.

What do I do from here?

You will never see me again.

You know, she's getting that look in her eye.

So I'm always like, well, this is dumb.

Like, I don't even know where to go for here.

And Heather's like, Gretchen, you want to try my gumbo?

Yeah, yeah.

It's very good.

It's gumbo that sings Beyonce lyrics.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So those lyrics are so simple, even Wendy Mala could sing along.

So Gretchen is like, she's like, no, thank you.

She's like, does anyone want to try my yaya?

Look at me.

Television's Heather de Brough experiencing things like Yaya and Gumbo and Jambalaya Ya.

Oh, wait, I think I just realized Jambalaya is Yaya.

I'm learning.

No, I don't want nothing from you.

Heather de Brow.

She goes, why would you say that?

She goes, I don't want it.

I don't want it.

It says simple.

Keep your yaya away from me.

Hoo-ha.

I don't want nothing from you.

Shanna's like, well, I don't know how many drinks she had but she did walk into my room with something she claimed was water oh didn't look like water i just heard five hours ago that i'm never gonna see her wasted again so what is she doing this alcoholic i love that shannon it's like the tables are turning for shannon it's like oh my god it's already time that i get to turn the alcoholic storyline back on tamara

So then Tamara gets up from the table because she's been doing for the past like two minutes.

She's been sitting there like quiet, like,

I'm not going to talk.

I'm upset.

I'm going to cry on the inside.

So now she gets up and she leaves and it's basically like Bali 2.0.

So she goes out and Jen's like, this is bad.

This is not a good night.

Just kidding.

I'm laughing.

It's great.

So Gina's like, it's because she's

because I said she's sloshed.

I swear, if Gina says sloshed one more time, I'm revoking all the good things I said about her at the beginning of the episode.

I mean, Tamara walks off and they immediately all start like, oh my God, Tamra's fucked up.

Like, oh my God, what's going on?

So good.

So then Tamara goes to the elevator and a producer comes up and he's like, are you all right, Tamra?

She goes, I just want to go home.

I just want to go home.

I'm waiting for the elevator because there's a stairs and Teddy fell down this one time.

I could be traumatized.

And back at the table, Gretchen's like, yeah, when she screamed at me, like, man, I was like, I'm not touching this.

And she says, when she gets this psycho, you can see something in her eyes.

And that is the truth.

I mean, those eyes change.

Heather's are always black, but Tamaras change.

So Heather goes out to the hallway and she's like, Tamara, what is going on with you, honey?

Why are you talking to all these poor people out here?

Tamra's like, I just want to go home.

You can go home, but don't talk to the poor.

It's just not, it's beneath you.

You know, you're not helping yourself.

How am I not being myself right now?

I don't know, but I'm uncomfortable in this hallway with people in t-shirts and shorts and headpieces.

Who are these people?

Can we get away from them?

No, no, because what?

So I'm not fucking yelling and that's why I'm like, you guys are uncomfortable with it?

She's like, I don't want you to yell.

I just want you to come back to the table so we can gang up on Katie some more.

What is it?

Wait,

what do you think about me?

What do you want?

So she starts having a fit and she's, she's like, back at the table.

Jen's like, oh my God, Shannon, if it were you and you showed up like that, you would be like a drunk.

You'd be drunk.

Well, I gave her Gina's water.

I didn't really know what else to do.

I just wanted to keep her as drunk as possible so that way he could get off me for once.

So I just wanted to give her Gina's water so that way she could have something to drink so I could finish her martini.

I mean, waste not want not.

So then back in the hallway, Tamara's like, I just sat down with Gretchen where I told her everything.

And now all of a sudden, I'm the asshole.

I'm the asshole.

Thinking mad that someone's not accusing me of roofing them.

And Heather's like, well, you know, now I'm the asshole.

Just let me be, I'm not doing this.

I'm not doing this, Heather.

No.

No one's.

saying, I don't give a fuck, Eda.

No one's saying, honey, honey.

No one's saying you're an asshole.

I'm saying with Gretchen, she probably needs to take a step back,

okay?

Look, sit under, stand right here.

I'll let my hand flop onto your head as I say, take a step back.

Look, I'm doing a small slam dunk with my hand on your head.

Take a step back.

Do you feel relaxed now?

Take a step back.

So Tamara's yelling in the hallway, hallway and they can all hear her she's like i don't give a fuck this girl's contacted my daughter which is a lie she's called my husband gay which is a possibility hey and she's gone after me a million times

and i've been so fucking nice to her i'm so nice to gretch and everybody knows it Everybody knows it.

This shouldn't even cause the episode naked wasted.

This should have caught the episode someone at least brought you a sweater after wasted.

And that person was me, but I can't believe it, but somebody knew me.

you know when someone's husband's dying of cancer and you go on TV and you you accuse them of having an affair and say that this person called you in the middle of the night and then you torment them this with this rumor for years and years and years this is how you would pay me I've just been nice to you that's it

it's so hard being a good person so she runs out because the elevator's not coming and you know some producer is downstairs holding that elevator they're like do not let Tamra get in the elevator so she just goes down the stairs instead and keeps looking behind her like fucking camera if you're following me right okay come on come on guys

so inside they're like yeah that girl's crazy and drunk something's going on with her

and then downstairs tamara's alone in the restaurant she's she just turns to the camera and she's like do we have to call for me

They're like, we're not paying for you to leave the shoot that you're supposed to be part of, you know?

So Gina's like, Tamara just texted me.

Fuck off.

What?

What?

And then Gina's like, like and then and so then i wrote back to go to bed and then tamara says you're out of line and katie is like well let me see if i get one oh i didn't even get one that's too bad i was gonna tell kiki about it

nothing to forward to kiki could you send me a screenshot of the one that you got That would be great.

Well, she said, I'm out.

Gina crossed the line.

No one is authentic.

What did you do, Gina?

Well, I told her I was slushed,

not to tell me, fuck you.

Yeah, I've had it with Tamara.

I mean, you claim on on your working yourself but like you just said fuck you the wrong person

all right everyone as gretchen would say shut the fuck up gretchen what a line god i hope that makes it to the ads what a wonderful line

did did gretchen say is that a gretchen phrase shut the fuck up

i don't know but i love that she's like iconic now and heather's mine they have all turned on tamara and they're back at the table like yes we nailed camera tamara finally lifting gretchen up and gina and tamara's calling Eddie, be like, get from here, flat out of here.

I'm over.

I'm done.

So then Gina's like, oh my god, she put on an Instagram.

It was a long run.

When life gives you real problems, this real reality shit doesn't make sense.

Peace out.

I'm out.

Jen's like, she really posted that?

Wow.

She quit.

She quit.

Former fatty photo was bad enough.

Didn't she just quit the show?

Former fatty photo.

She used a really fat font.

That font used to be bigger, actually.

So, yeah, they're all like, she quit.

Oh, my God.

Whoa, whoa.

And Gretchen's like, yeah, I literally said in my head, she will probably try to quit the show now.

Because I think was Gretchen there in Bali when she did this also?

I don't remember.

No, maybe not.

I don't think Gretchen was on that season, but I think that was just totally a camera move where she gets caught and she runs like hell, you know?

And so Gina's like, I don't know what it is.

Like, I don't know if it was a cry for attention.

I just don't know.

And so Jen's like, well, once again, you know, Katie's in the line of fire.

And it's like, here's the grenade.

Hold it.

I'm just going to put it in the pin, pull the pin and walk away.

Explosion, huge explosion.

I'm in a wedding bikini.

Ryan has a boner.

He's taking out his AirPods.

I don't even know what's happening anymore.

Tamara's on the phone with Eddie in the car.

He's like, I'm out.

I don't need this.

Goodbye.

I'll see you when I get home.

Actually, I'm in big bear.

And that is the end.

To be continued, what will happen?

Well, I think we all know that Tamara comes back to shoot, but it was a real surprising

turn of events.

I mean, we knew that Tamara quit during the New Orleans trip.

We know that everyone, like she had some sort of meltdown, but what I was not expecting was that the entire cast was going to turn against her and like call her out.

Like that was actually pretty shocking and gratifying to watch.

Yeah, it was lovely.

It was lovely.

It was a lovely time enjoyed by all.

Nice job.

I mean, we got a full two-hour recap out of this.

That's crazy.

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