#2971 RHOC S19E06 Part 2: New OLA, Old Tricks

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Speaker 2 Hi, everyone. Welcome back.
This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, well, go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe so that way, you always get your episodes.

Speaker 2 But enough of that, let's get right back into the episode. I do remember as a kid asking my parents if we could ever go to Meepos.
I was like, Can we go to Meepos? And my mom was like, Where's that?

Speaker 2 I was like, That's where Balky is from. My mom was like,

Speaker 1 Who?

Speaker 1 I was like,

Speaker 2 Balky Bartakus. Basically, you know, I think

Speaker 2 my mom's Heather DeBrow, guys. Let's just

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Speaker 2 Balky Bartakus.

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Speaker 2 no we cannot is he on tv land um

Speaker 1 getting back to this katie said he told her that i roof feed you okay and so shannon's like are you

Speaker 1 kidding me

Speaker 1 she said that you what now we add gretchen to the list another person victimized by katie

Speaker 2 She is saying that you make Gretchen's roof when we all know that Gretchen built her roof herself. No, Shannon, that's not what that means.
No, no. But here's what I was going to say.
Tamara has heard

Speaker 2 from someone who has heard about this conversation that Katie is relaying. Is it possible in somewhere along the way that details were

Speaker 2 blurred or relayed improperly or heard improperly?

Speaker 2 Like, is it possible that Katie said to Kiki something like, oh yeah, Gretchen was telling me me how Tamara tried to get her waisted, you know, so that way she'd like get blackout or something.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and Tamara twists. And then like, and then someone says this,

Speaker 2 sort of rephrases that and tells it to Tamara and then now it's at roofie level because that's what this all is about.

Speaker 2 And Tamara is always, always claims like, oh, well, you misheard or it wasn't really like that.

Speaker 2 When Tamara is the queen of taking a shred of something and spinning it out of control and making it sound like it was something else entirely. This is

Speaker 2 every single time.

Speaker 1 It's a Janet move. It's a classic Bravo move.
She's like pulling a, well, I mean, I guess Janet took it from Tamra first. So it's like a Tamra that Janet took, that Tamra's taking back now.

Speaker 1 But yeah, it's a typical thing. Like Gretchen probably talked about Naked Wasted, and Tamara's like, oh, now she's accusing me of roofing her.
You know, it's like, no.

Speaker 1 But, and we know that that's what it's about because Tamara tells us. She's like, 17.
Tamara, and this is Tamra's history. You know, she's like, let me just rephrase this history.

Speaker 1 Let me reframe it because it was fucking horrible. So let me just remind the audience what not a big deal this was.
17 years ago, me and the girls would see our Gretchen out wasted.

Speaker 1 But then when we were together, she was so prim and proper. So I had a party, and me and Vicki were joking.
And we said, let's get Gretchen wasted, naked wasted, so we could see the real Gretchen.

Speaker 1 That's what that meant. This is what naked meant.
You know, not that she could get naked, but just, you know. Because, you know, naked wasted like truth, naked truth.

Speaker 1 so then like what a nice wasn't it was it nice of us to do that no but that was it nothing more than that no that was not it you got gretchen over there applied her with shot after shot you didn't force her i mean she did drink on her own but you purposely got her as shit-faced as possible then sent your fucking disgusting piece of shit son into the bathroom to try and like fuck her so that she would you would have evidence against her with her old man that she was dating at the time, which could have led to sexual assaults.

Speaker 1 And thank God, Gretchen was strong enough at that point to back that fucker off. And it was all on microphone.

Speaker 1 But you basically tried to get your son to kind of sexually assault Gretchen in a bathroom. You disgusting fucking pig.

Speaker 1 So for you to bring that up now and act like everybody's being so dramatic all these years later when basically

Speaker 1 Not basically anything. You're guilty.
You are guilty, man. You're disgusting.

Speaker 2 What's actually so funny to me? And by the way, we recently re-watched Naked Wasted because we recapped it

Speaker 2 like either, actually a few years ago on our last tour, but two years ago we watched it and it was still like, it was as wild as we remembered it. Like it holds up.
But

Speaker 2 what's so funny is even if you just take Tamara, like just what she says here, just take out everything you just said. Like let's just see, let's just take her defense right here.

Speaker 2 Like, oh, we would see like Gretchen out and about and she'd always be drunk. And then she'd actually like act prim and proper around us on camera.

Speaker 2 And we're like, we want to show the real gretchen are people not allowed to get wasted at night at a bar and then if they show up for work on camera for the nation to be like i'm gonna try to like actually get my shit keep my shit together and actually try to like represent myself well it was like this defense that she's like that's all we were doing i was like you trying to expose like what you perceive as the real gretchen is actually such a vicious nasty thing that you're doing and you're being like whatever we're just trying to expose the truth.

Speaker 2 Like, you're the liberator. Like, you're the truth teller.
You're the one who has to champion authenticity.

Speaker 2 This woman who's sitting here looking like she has a plastic pumpkin from Spirit Halloween store taped to her face is going to talk about authentic people. No, I'm not, I'm not going to take that.

Speaker 1 Just close.

Speaker 2 We don't have to go back to Naked Wasted.

Speaker 1 So Gretchen's like, hell no, I didn't say that. So she's like, I'm trying to comprehend this.
I mean, supposedly Katie said this, but I have this weird feeling in the back of my mind.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to consider the source that's telling you that she said this. And I'm like, yes, Gretchen, duh.
Like, you're immediately going to sit down and believe Tamara.

Speaker 1 I mean, I hope that not even you are that dumb, you know? So she's like, yeah, I don't believe that. And Shanna is like, okay, well, then ask her tonight.
And Tamara's like, well, I got told.

Speaker 1 I got told by two people. Who are your people, Tamara?

Speaker 2 Once again,

Speaker 1 Tamara.

Speaker 2 Tamara that's like, you've been going and talking to bloggers.

Speaker 2 A, not only are you one of the bloggers, part of the ecosystem of content creators, Bravo content creators that we're all part of, but you talk to two other people.

Speaker 2 Like, it's like, how do you not see how, like, why is it like, like, Katie's not allowed to like. be a little messy on the side with content creators, but then, like, but you are.

Speaker 2 I just don't understand this. Like, just, I just say all of you just get messy and just have fun with it.
Yeah. Stop with all this, like, sanctimonious, like, how could could you?

Speaker 2 You're like, how could you, how could you betray the circle in this way?

Speaker 1 Kind of God.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's ridiculous. So Shannon's like, well, I mean, just put the recording aside.
Forget the recording for an. I am limited over this.
I have something new now. And how

Speaker 1 dare you?

Speaker 1 How long have you been holding on to that tamer? How long? And she's like, four weeks.

Speaker 2 Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 Are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 You had to hold on to that terrible information that Katie said that Gretchen said. By the way, you've been holding on to this information, which is that

Speaker 2 what is Tamara upset about? Is she upset about that Gretchen said it to Katie? Is she upset that Katie said this to Kiki? I don't understand what it is.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't either, but this never came out. So Kiki never said anything and Katie never said anything.
The only reason this is coming out is because Tamara's bringing it out.

Speaker 1 So if Tamara's bringing it out, she's doing it on purpose. So why is she making Gretchen think that the rumor is that Gretchen was roofied?

Speaker 1 How is that going to make Gretchen look bad? It still only makes Tamara look bad. Like, why is she bringing that shit out? Because, you know, there's people who are like, well, did she roofie her?

Speaker 1 You know, like, I don't really get Tamara's motivation in this. And I think Tamara is kind of losing her touch because she used to be very good at manipulating everybody and getting stuff out there.

Speaker 1 But this isn't even a good one.

Speaker 2 Like, well, she's trying to get Gretchen to turn against Katie.

Speaker 2 She's trying to be like, hey, just so you know, this person that you're standing up for that you said has never done anything to you, she's going around telling people the media that

Speaker 2 you are making claims about roofies. But like, even that's like,

Speaker 2 like, it's just not the strongest like turn, like

Speaker 2 loyalty shifting rumor. Like, you should be horrified to know that someone's saying that you're accusing me of roofing.
And I know you would never make an accusation like that.

Speaker 2 So she's saying you would make an accusation that's way more exaggerated than what happened. Like, it's not even that that strong to turn someone against someone um it's confusing

Speaker 2 it is very confusing yeah i can't even say it straight without having to like double check that i'm saying it right yeah so

Speaker 1 like what's the motivation so katie so i'm gonna get you mad because katie told a blogger something that you said in private but then that's like well did wouldn't her first question be like did i roofy you

Speaker 1 i don't know this whole thing is crazy and i don't know why tamara even bringing this up publicly because it only makes Tamra look bad because it brings back Naked Wasted, which I know that she thinks she can reframe, then that everybody's stupid.

Speaker 1 And it's too long ago that no one's going to remember that she tried to have her son attack Gretchen or whatever happened there, which

Speaker 1 that's not really far from the truth. It was a pretty gross episode.
So she's, Tamara's just making herself look bad. Like, how badly are you losing your touch here?

Speaker 2 She's just, she's not being patient.

Speaker 2 That's her problem because normally she's patient and she waits for for Katie to slip up and say something about Gretchen and that's why she's anytime I think she's been nice to Katie she's just been trying to get stuff that she can use against her and she just hasn't been able to get anything where she can say to Gretchen hey Katie said this about you so the best that she has is Katie said that you said this thing about me which is a gross exaggeration and now you should be mad that she mischaracterized the way you used said that I treated you.

Speaker 2 Well, it does make me not strong enough.

Speaker 1 But it does make me wonder because Gretchen did drink that night like we saw we just recapped it so she did have a lot of shots and stuff that night that they were feeding her but why would tamara say she said i roofied you because there's no way to go back and prove that tamara didn't roofie gretchen and if she did

Speaker 1 if she if gretchen did say that tamara roofied me i would believe it because she was completely out of it that night. So why would Tamara put that in people's heads is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 There's no way to prove that Tamara didn't roofie the girl. So it's just like a very sloppy thing for Tamara to put out there to the public.

Speaker 1 Because if Gretchen said Tamara roofied me that night, I believe her.

Speaker 2 But she also would have said it, and she mentions this. She's like, it's been 12 years.
I would have mentioned it by now. She's like, I'm not above mentioning.
I'm Betty. I will do this.

Speaker 2 I responded to your daughter's Facebook thing. Like, if, you know, if I could have done this, if I could have accused you of roofing me, I would have.

Speaker 1 Or is she trying to trick Gretchen into saying what you did that night wasn't that bad? And that's no big deal.

Speaker 1 I never would have said Roofy because then that gets Tamara kind of off the hook for that night. I just, I'm just trying to understand the motivation for what's making me crazy.

Speaker 2 No, I think, I don't think, I think the motivation, I think it's truly that some, I think, I believe that it was the comment started off like Tamara got me blackout and Katie says blackout and black, the word, I think blackout, something like blackout, or I couldn't remember anything and Tamara did this to me.

Speaker 2 And then somehow it gets back to Tamara. And either Tamara hears Roofy or someone someone says Roofy.
But like to me, it's like very obviously a game of telephone.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 it's silly. So

Speaker 2 back in the voodoo parlor,

Speaker 2 they all are sitting around a table.

Speaker 2 They're all doing arts and crafts. They're voodoo.
The voodoo things. And Mary, the Bloody Mary, is like, okay, everyone, pick up your doll.
And I'm going to do a group zap.

Speaker 2 And then an individual waking. Is Zap a part of Voodoo? Is that like...
Why are you asking me?

Speaker 1 I don't fucking know.

Speaker 2 We're gonna get

Speaker 2 everyone.

Speaker 1 We're gonna get Tamara's evil infinity stone who brings these things to life.

Speaker 1 Hold us still. Hold us still.
And Katie's like, it's a him, actually. She goes, okay, it's a boy.
I baptize you in the name of what's his name? Matt. Okay, basic.

Speaker 1 I baptize this basic little baby. Okay, hold it tight.
I'm going to slap it. Boo.
Aye, boo. Aye, popo.
I eat popo. Okay.
Okay, I eat.

Speaker 1 That's kind of like a men. Hallelujah, but it's in voodoo.
Okay.

Speaker 2 By the way, there is something called Zap's voodoo potato chips. So maybe that's where she got it.
Okay, everyone, we're going to have potato chips after this.

Speaker 1 I'm in. Okay.
I'm back. I'm back.

Speaker 2 Ooh, I like to be spanked. This is fun.
Just stay away from the face. I don't want to have another surgery.
And neither does my doll. So Mary's going around baptizing all the dolls and everything.

Speaker 2 Saying, I baptize you in the name of Gina. I feel ma'am.
I I feel baptized. And Gina's like, I'm so intrigued by voodoo.
Like, most people think it's like evil spirits and dog, you know?

Speaker 2 And then a customary being like, just remember to feed it on a regular basis, add things to it. Everything you do, add it with purpose.

Speaker 2 It's your ancient and voodoo vision board, which is really all she needed to start with. Is like, tell these women that they'll be making a vision board.

Speaker 2 And they would have been all been on board from the beginning.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh my God, this is crazy.
My voodoo doll is already living in a tiny shoebox with 19 other voodoo dolls.

Speaker 1 The box has cursive and it says box.

Speaker 2 I put a pin in my voodoo doll and I felt bad about it. But then what was worse is that my voodoo doll said, I feel bad.
I literally feel bad.

Speaker 1 You put a pin in me.

Speaker 2 Ow, did someone just poke me?

Speaker 1 I feel bad.

Speaker 1 Okay, dress it for different occasions, put it away, put it to sleep. You know, those kinds of things.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, let's not talk about putting myself to sleep.

Speaker 1 So, Tamara's like, well, I don't want to go back with you on everything, Gretchen. I just want to be friends with you.
It's me and you. We're such good friends, right?

Speaker 1 I mean, I wasn't in a good place at the time. I'm so made to Simon for crying out loud.
I mean, look at you. You're so cute.
You're just so beautiful, Gretchen. I'd love to be friends with you.

Speaker 1 Maybe one day I can give you back your voice, your voice, your voice.

Speaker 1 However,

Speaker 2 the things that Tamara's always been good at is like making you feel like there's hope for change for like moving forward.

Speaker 2 And like, yes, in my soul, like my soul wants to believe it's true because I want that for her and I. I absolutely do, do, do.

Speaker 2 Tamara's like, I've been caught to tell it because I thought maybe you did tell her that. And now, now that I know that you didn't say that I roofed you, I 100% believe you.

Speaker 2 God, what a bitch Katie is. We all hate her, right? I can tell by your reaction.
You hate her. You love me.
You're part of us now.

Speaker 1 Guys, I learned can't.

Speaker 1 I can't be back in this shit again, you guys. I'm serious.
I can't be back. And Gretchen like starts like...

Speaker 1 What are you doing back here, Gretchen? You can't be in this shit again. You came back to Real House.
You've been clawing your way back into Real House Webs of Orange County since you left.

Speaker 1 Don't start crying now. You're finally in it.
Rejoice.

Speaker 2 Well, Katie is insinuating that Tamara committed an eagle, an illegal act, and that is bad. And that takes Katie's issues with everyone, every single one of us, to another level.

Speaker 2 And I want to get to the bottom of this. And by this, I mean this bag of beignets that I just picked up.
Should we pause for a snack? No.

Speaker 2 And I think everyone's going to want to get to the bottom of this.

Speaker 1 So now everybody's getting ready for dinner and, you know, it's time to go on to the next fight scene. That's the preamble.
So Jen is talking to Ryan.

Speaker 1 And she's like, I'm gonna bring this picture up tonight and she's not gonna hide from it and um then in heather's room she's on the phone with terry having a wacky scene um about walking the mardi gras puppy parade and he's like oh you showed your boob for beads just tell me tell me you did she goes oh my god i wouldn't show my boobs are they diamond beads i don't think so

Speaker 2 I'm not Wendy Malik taking off her top just so she could be in some TV show with Harrison Ford.

Speaker 1 I'm not Daisy Fuentes.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Wait for the diamond to.

Speaker 2 Daisy Travis slutting it up so that way she can get an extra refill at Starbucks.

Speaker 1 Captain Travis.

Speaker 1 So in Shannon's room, Shannon's a mess as usual. Her hair is all sticking up.
I think her goal tonight is to go from the mom and married with children.

Speaker 1 I'm not really sure what Shannon's doing, but she's trying.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you what she's doing.

Speaker 2 She is not rolling over and she is not going to come jumping back into her friendship with Tamara. Hell to the no.
She will not jump back into that friendship. So Tamara comes over and they key key.

Speaker 1 And Tamara's like, hey, girlfriend, hey, Bessie. Pink promise all stuff.
This is so fun. So fun.
Being back to Shannon, my little best friend. Come, Mrs.
Somebuds.

Speaker 1 Cause no one can drink with me like Shannon can.

Speaker 1 Yeah, girl.

Speaker 2 I think I just peed in my pants again because I'm so happy to see my best friend who I am not going to be friends with anymore. Get on over here for a hug.

Speaker 2 So Shannon's like, what's in your glass? And Tamara goes, it's just water. And we see the water.
It's literally like the color of Pinot Grigio.

Speaker 2 It's like, it's either Pinot Grigio or you are getting your water from a very dangerous source.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm a little bit nervous, okay, Shirley, but tell you.

Speaker 1 Can't check all the facts. We're best friends.
Can I press your hair? Can I press your hair, Shannon? I love you so much. Okay, you know what?

Speaker 1 You know, I'm just nervous for the day because I don't know exactly how to bring it up. You know, it's just so deep.
It's so dark. Talking about Rufies and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 Definitely Rufies are really good.

Speaker 2 And Shana's like, well, you know what? I just want to remind the audience, I am not jumping back into a situation where we are brushing each other's hair and braiding it.

Speaker 2 But yes, Tamra, you can brush my hair, since you did ask.

Speaker 2 You know what? Hearing what you said today, I am so livid about it. And it took me about 45 minutes to actually parse it out and figure out what you were really saying.

Speaker 2 But then once I did figure it out, I decided I was pretty much still livid about it. And Tamara's like, yeah, because I feel like Shannon and I are back to a really good place.

Speaker 2 It feels great to have her on my side. It really does.
Like, I have your back, girl.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she's like, it's so good being best friends again. Okay, take care of yourself.
Get ready. We're going to be downstairs waiting for you, okay?

Speaker 1 Then don't forget your phone and don't forget your underwear. Shannon Pedro, little drunk bitch.
I said that in a friendly way.

Speaker 1 Alcoholic spin.

Speaker 1 So glad we're about to be busies.

Speaker 1 Oh, God. Tamara trying to be nice.
Tamara is killing me. It's so fucking funny to see it.
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Speaker 2 So then the other ladies, everyone's like climbing into the car. And Gina's like, oh my God, I can't go in the back today.
I feel like a sausage. And Heather goes, you don't look like a sausage.

Speaker 2 You look like a box that arrives from UPS.

Speaker 2 You know, very square, long, wide, unflattering, bad color for you.

Speaker 1 Does anybody have a blue blue light?

Speaker 1 Just kidding.

Speaker 1 What do you mean? Okay, okay. You know what? You look great, Tina, whatever.
It's not about you today.

Speaker 1 Okay, did

Speaker 1 so. Shannon comes and she's in her own car.
She's like, well, did Tamara already leave her that we were best friends again? I guess his sisterhood needs to take a little hike. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Oh my God, I still have a beignet on my knee. How did I get a beignet on my knee?

Speaker 1 This is delicious.

Speaker 2 Oh, I just remembered. It's because I had the driver pull over at the beignet stand and I bought three of them and I left one on my knee by accident.
I said, this will be a treat for later.

Speaker 2 And guess what? It's been about 45 seconds. That counts as later.

Speaker 1 Now, Jen goes over to Gretchen's room. It's like, oh, my God, why are you not ready? She's like, I'm not ready.
I needed to talk to you first. I'm wearing a bathrobe.
It's a bathrobe of sadness.

Speaker 1 I just haven't seen you since the whole voodoo thing. And, you know, I.

Speaker 1 And then back in the car, Gina's like, what did you do when you ran out of the voodoo?

Speaker 2 Well, I tired with Gretchen.

Speaker 1 Many best friend, but a good person.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Oh, was it a good heart-to-heart? Like, yeah, we talked about Katie and we talked about how shitty she is.
So yeah, it was a great heart to heart.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 Oh, God. You did not do that, Tamara.
You did not.

Speaker 2 Flop hand, flop hand, flop hand. So then back to Gretchen.

Speaker 2 She's like, you know, Tamara, all of a sudden she says to me, like, I heard like bloggers, like, that Katie told them that, like, I told Katie that Tamara roofed me the night of the naked wasted.

Speaker 2 And I was like, wait, wait, wait, what? And Jenna's like, wow, I don't know if I followed that, but Naked Wasted, is that a, is that a brand? I love their work. No, no, no.

Speaker 2 But I don't know even if I, how I feel about that.

Speaker 2 So then we go back to the other car on Tamara saying, oh, Katie said that I roofied her.

Speaker 1 And had this

Speaker 1 roofied her.

Speaker 1 What the literal fuck? Like, what, like, was this about your, like, at Heather's party, you were saying something about some story that she planted or something? Is it there?

Speaker 1 And Tamara's like, that was Ilika.

Speaker 2 I don't trust Katie, but I think Tamara's an all-opportunity coin of girl. So Tamara's like, am I to ask how that's going to bring it up tonight?

Speaker 2 I'm like, yes, it will be you because you're the only one who seems to care about this right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're the one who brought it up in the first place, you dummy. So So Gina's like, well, I'm going to have Katie signing the story because like, I don't know what to believe.

Speaker 1 So then Katie comes over to Gretchen's hotel room and

Speaker 1 she tells her and Katie's like, well, Gretchen says, yeah, you know, I got told Tamara by Tamara that you went to bloggers and you told them this crazy story that Tamara roofied me.

Speaker 1 And she's like, no. She goes, you never went to a blogger? She's like, No.

Speaker 1 And so Katie's like, okay, so now this is coming together.

Speaker 1 Tamara said to me, the quiet woman, I didn't want to bring it up but you told something something about me told something something about me it's really bad katie and i had it from two people they said something to somebody about something about something somebody something somewhere sometime

Speaker 2 Katie's like, what did I say? I'm not going to say it because it was really bad. And I don't know.
Maybe, maybe if I just say it because it's so bad, maybe I'll roof for you afterwards.

Speaker 2 You don't remember. Ha! Bye.

Speaker 1 Okay, so Heather is questioning if I'm planning planning stories with Kiki Monique.

Speaker 1 And we see flashback to two weeks before when Heather's like, I heard you were asking Ikiki to put out stories to hurt us.

Speaker 2 And Katie's like, and I feel like this has all been a plan since they've the very beginning to make me look like a bad person. Why is she doing this to me?

Speaker 1 So Katie's like, well, I'm not going to just lie. I didn't do that.
And I know you have your doubts right now, but hand to God, I didn't do it. I mean, God.
It's never ending with these people.

Speaker 2 So, Gretchen's like, Well, when she said this, I was just like, Wait, what? But then I got back and I started talking to Slayton, and then like, that doesn't even sound like something Katie would do.

Speaker 2 And Katie's like, Well, I didn't do it. So, Katie, Gretchen's like, Well, all of a sudden, I just felt like I'm getting bamboozled over here by somebody telling me that this is what happened.

Speaker 2 So, that I come, I'm she's trying to get so I come at you and I freak out at you and I get pissed out off at you.

Speaker 2 And this is, by the way, all feeling like the traitors, which by the way, announced that they will be doing this all civilian season coming up, by the way. By the way, by the way, by the way.

Speaker 1 Boring.

Speaker 1 So, Gretchen, yeah, I love Gretchen slowly figuring things out. It's like, I feel like maybe I got bamboozled.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Gretchen. It's like beautiful mind numbers flying around her head, but they're like one plus one.
Plus one. It just takes her forever.
You know, it's like, wait a minute. Maybe she said it.

Speaker 1 So I get mad at you

Speaker 1 but then i would be mad at you

Speaker 1 wait a minute i've got it

Speaker 1 yes yes gretchen she connected the dots

Speaker 2 all two of them so gretchen is like well she's basically like no one you have to deal with an individual that's willing to go and get the greatest lengths to destroy people to harm people to hurt people it's just hard to believe that person over the person that's never shown that to me in their life huh so jen is like okay,

Speaker 2 well, how much time do you need? Because we've got to go to dinner. And, you know, if you're going to take 15 minutes, that's 15 more minutes I have to find this former fatty photo of mine.

Speaker 2 It's really bothering me. Have you guys seen this photo?

Speaker 1 So Heather is like joking about making Shannon some dating pictures for Raya.

Speaker 1 And then we see a fake bio for Shannon.

Speaker 1 Shannon, 61, interested in love, likes my dog Archie, the quiet woman, lemons, mine in a bowl, golden door, dislikes liars, bad teeth, plates, sound bowls, and houses that go too far into the street.

Speaker 2 Men who don't like vegetables. So, um,

Speaker 2 so then Tamara's like, guess what, Shannon? I told them. And Shannon's like, oh, she, she told you, Heather? And Heather's like, oh, yeah, we heard.
We heard all about it.

Speaker 2 So Tamara's like, so who's going to sit next to me? So there's like a question because like everyone who's still arrived, still due to arrive at dinner hates Tamara. So they're laughing about this.

Speaker 2 By the way, way, Tamara is also blatantly trying to get Gina to fall into her trap, which I thought she would, which is that Tamara's not going to bring this up at dinner.

Speaker 2 Tamara's going to sit there and all angry. And then Gina's be like, you know what? I feel bad because, Katie, look at Tamara.

Speaker 2 Lydia, because, like, I found out that you've been telling people that Tamara's roofering everyone in Orange County, and that's just not nice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she's been doing it this whole time. Like, guys, am I going to have to be the one to bring this up? I'm going to tell half this cast this stuff.

Speaker 1 So at least there's a chance that one of you is going to bring it up. One of you is going to bring it up, right, guys? And no one does.
So like she's starting to fail.

Speaker 1 By the way, she shows up to this dinner with possum eyes on a thousand. They're completely black, like completely blacked out.
And she's doing that little squint. I mean, she's just looking.

Speaker 1 Tamara, she is just like a hundred. She's been marinating in Tamara juice on her way here.
She's like shown up ready to rumble. So Shannon's like, well, can we talk about how Katie is late?

Speaker 1 I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
So then in the car, car, they're talking about Tamara being like so manipulative. And, you know, she's so good at making you question yourself.

Speaker 1 So then at the table,

Speaker 1 Tamara's like, wait a minute. What if my plan doesn't work? Okay, what else is my, what's plan B? Okay, guys.

Speaker 1 I didn't consider this, but what if Gretchen did tell Katie that I roofied her?

Speaker 1 So let's all be prepared to get mad at Gretchen if Gretchen doesn't follow through by being mad at Katie, by being mad at Gretchen for spreading the rumor that I roofied Gretchen.

Speaker 1 Okay, everybody got it.

Speaker 2 Heather and Gina are like, she did it.

Speaker 2 So Katie is, so then they walk in and Katie's like, you know, when you walk into a room and they're all talking about you, it's awkward. I'm like, yeah, welcome to this show.

Speaker 2 So Emily's like, why were you guys so late?

Speaker 2 It was me. Because Gretchen is like, I was thinking forever.
So it's awkward. And, you know, they're making sort of small

Speaker 2 talk and everything. And like Tamara's saying, she has hiccups.
So Heather's like, can you scare her, please? here here's a photo of Wendy just show it in her face

Speaker 1 so Tamara's just like

Speaker 1 little bubbles are coming out of her mouth and so she's like

Speaker 1 so they go talk privately and say so am I gonna bring it up tonight are you gonna bring it up do you do you not want me to bring it up because it's just so nasty so mean

Speaker 2 i want to you want to bring it up you want to use the smartphone i know i wrote out some cute cards for you if you needed just some prompts to help you along so gretchen's like uh and tamara's like she's like wait did you talk to her about it what did you say she goes well she said that she didn't do it she goes and do you believe that she said that she's like

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And so then Katie comes out to gets up because she knows they're talking about it. So Shannon's like, wait, wait, is Katie going? Is she going to the bathroom?

Speaker 2 Is she going to the radio shack to get another tape recorder to record me? What is happening with Katie right now?

Speaker 1 Is she going to the bathroom or the live room?

Speaker 1 Okay. Now, did you guys hear about what's happening today? A lot of shit.
Okay. Do you know? And Jen's like, I think I understand it.

Speaker 1 There was a show on while I Love Lucy was airing something about being wasted while you're naked. I'm really not sure.
I just, I'm too young to remember that far back.

Speaker 2 Jen, how do you feel about this? She goes, well, you know, I've I've had a lot of conversations with Gretchen, and if Gretchen felt like she was roofied, I think she would have heard of that.

Speaker 2 You know, I think she would have said that. So Gina's like, honestly, Jen, she would have loved to have brought this.
Like, she would have loved to have talked about being roofied.

Speaker 2 So now out in the hall, now it's Katie, Tamara, and Gretchen. And,

Speaker 2 you know, Katie is denying that she talked to Kiki about this. And Tamara's like, so, so why did I get like two people reach out to me and tell me the same story? Why? Why? Why?

Speaker 2 And Tamara's like, like, I mean, she's like, you know, somebody, like, what, Katie says, who was it? And she's, someone who doesn't want to be named. I cannot reveal my sources.

Speaker 1 I'm too good at a person.

Speaker 1 I won't reveal my sources. Deep in throat.

Speaker 1 Deep in throat. And Katie's like, well, it's not true.
And Gretchen says, I mean, I was really looking forward to moving, moving forward with you. And like, I still want to have a talk with you.

Speaker 1 So we can either harp on this. because wait are you saying I pulled this out of my ass Gretchen? She's like no I didn't say that's what happened.
I just asked like listen she said she didn't do it.

Speaker 1 She's like, okay, whatever. And she just like storms off while pissed because it didn't work.
So she storms back to the table and she's like, plan B, Gretchen believes Katie.

Speaker 1 Get her. What? Get her, everybody.
What? So what the? You surf her. We were best friends.
Me and Gretchen have been best friends for years. I just got betrayed by not getting accused of roofing her.

Speaker 1 It's a betrayal. How dare you not accuse me of roofing you?

Speaker 2 You know, she was sad when I told Gretchen she was saddy with me. Hey, was this just an act with Gretchen? Is she a liar all along? Is she a fake person? Is she the most fake person here at this cast?

Speaker 2 Because what she said is illegal and a lie. So now you have Tamra and Shannon both saying they did something illegal.
I mean, they're both like on this crusade.

Speaker 2 So now Katie and Gretchen return, and Shannon's like, well,

Speaker 2 congratulations katie you ate the last beignet congratulations i guess none of us get dessert now your excuses worked for one person oh shannon be quiet like have your own things to be mad she is so out of she is so out of order and i love so and i love katie just being like oh my god shannon whatever whatever yeah whatever you're not involved well i i i i'm angry my anger is involved i was voodooed by i was voodooed by i was i i'm a victim of voodoo right now and you did the

Speaker 1 Katie's like yeah we got it Shannon everybody knows you're angry I'm loving watching Katie deal with Shannon because Shannon is just doing her indignant lady thing and Katie is like

Speaker 1 she loved her sandwich shut up yeah every

Speaker 2 every single person and this is when Shannon does that thing where she points like she points at everyone like like she's trying to do like a magic spell on them really quickly like every single person at this table why is my finger wand not working i'm working i'm whacking my finger wand every single person at this table except jen you have hurt and jen is already hurt because there's a former fatty photo of her so let's give her some space okay every single person has been hurt by you katie you okay well i've owned it when i've done something wrong shannon oh oh you've owned it well who wants to be around someone that hurts an entire table of people

Speaker 2 including the table itself look look look at this table It's crying. I am tears on my kneecaps.

Speaker 1 And Katie just rolls her eyes. She goes, oh my God, I didn't say it.
Oh, you stop lying.

Speaker 1 I'm loving watching all of this blow up in Shannon's face, kind of with the audience, because Shannon is just like on a mission from the Lord in this, in these episodes.

Speaker 1 She is so convinced that she's correct.

Speaker 2 I almost think this thing with Katie is so over, her reaction to Katie is so over the top.

Speaker 2 I almost feel like Shannon wants to be friends with Tamara again, but she doesn't want to deal with all the shit that people will give her.

Speaker 2 So it's almost like she just needs something so like this is the opportunity to get mad at katie and so that way it's like it's like okay like you can see like tamara had my back all along we are good friends it's like it's like she's so over the top mad about this recording that happened when you're on a show that's recorded that like i feel like there's like an ulterior psychological motive going on yeah like she needs to make somebody worse than tamara You know, so that Tamara's not the bad one.

Speaker 1 So she can be friends with her guy. I mean, yeah, I think you're right.

Speaker 1 yeah like look she's been sticking up for me that makes sense so heather's like i love shannon but she can oh sorry what were we gonna say i was gonna say like because shannon is screaming in the restaurant now the waiter comes by and she goes i can't stand you i can't stand you i was like what you like she's she's making a scene Yeah, she's being, she's being pretty terrible this season, which is hilarious to me.

Speaker 1 Don't necessarily change, but wow.

Speaker 2 That's what she does. She alternates back and forth.

Speaker 1 So she's like, Katie, I'm going to say this is someone who just wet their pants 10 minutes ago. You are known as the leak in this group.
And that is something in this group. That is something.

Speaker 2 From the bottom to the top, from the windows to the walls, to the sweat drops down, my balls. So then Heather is like, it's too much.
It's too much.

Speaker 2 And so Gretchen's like, well, where's the proof that any of this happened? I mean, hey, and I haven't seen anything. So I'm just supposed to be like, oh, fuck you and come after her.

Speaker 2 That's what you want me to do. And Hedda's like, no, no, no, no, no.
I get that. I get that.
And Gina's like, I think she's struggling because it's a friend.

Speaker 2 I was like, wow, Gina, really picking up on the nuances of the situation.

Speaker 1 She doesn't want to just say, oh, fuck you, Katie, because she doesn't know, you know. Like, I feel me.

Speaker 2 That's difficult. That's difficult.
Okay, I agree. Point for Gina.
Point for Gina, everyone.

Speaker 1 And also, guys, beyond all of this speculation, I didn't do it. So there's that as well.
Gretchen's like, yeah, this person has done so much shit to me, Tamra.

Speaker 1 I mean, do you really think I'm just going to believe this shit? No. Shanna's like, there are multiple reputable, reputable reporters.
Barbara Walters called from heaven.

Speaker 1 She was maybe one of the people. There are people who report things with reputations.
You don't know who they are. Give me scared.

Speaker 2 Well, she said it was Barbara Walters called. And then she said, hold on.
I've got Cokie on the other line. Wanted to make it a three-way.

Speaker 2 three-way so it was cokey and barbara from abc heaven and they were both reporting on this and they see everything reputable reputable jack shows up he's like where where not that cokey jacks go away this is not your show

Speaker 1 also i can guarantee oh sorry no no you'll guarantee after you sorry i keep stepping on you i don't mean to um i can guarantee you that there are not multiple reputable reporters reporting on kikimoni kiring gossip at lunch No,

Speaker 1 there's literally Tom Brokaw is not at lunch like, well, did you hear about Kiki Monique and what she heard from a lady from Orange County?

Speaker 2 Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2 So Gina is like, oh, I don't know why Tamma would think that Gretchen would ever believe anything that came out of her mouth.

Speaker 2 Like, has this ever historically gone well for these women in the past 12 years no so jen is like did you ever ask kitty about it no no because she didn't want it to be a thing

Speaker 1 when it wasn't the vacation yet i wanted to ask gretchen and today she was disgusted she was crying back when we were best friends remember gretchen and she's like i wasn't crying i was just like i mean i was like what jen was like yeah you were you were crying you were so upset about it you were so upset about it i was there for you i remember i started patting you on the back i've sewn up your wounds i like a few secrets and we're best friends she's like well I mean okay I was emotional and John's like okay so let's just I'll have it out then um where's the picture Tamara it's what read my picture

Speaker 2 the former fatty photo the thing that everyone's been talking about the thing that's on top of everyone's minds everyone wants to know where is this photo and Tamara's like That's not what tonight's scene is about, though, bitch.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 2 it's, I need to see this photo. We all want to have Katie come to the table, okay?

Speaker 2 We want, we want Katie to come to the table, and if everyone's been hurt, well, everyone's been hurt here by you as well.

Speaker 2 Which I like that she mentioned that, like, okay, well, like, you guys are saying that Katie's hurt everyone, but like, Tamara, like, let's be real here. Tamara's one who's really hurt people.

Speaker 2 So, like, what was the intent of the picture with me? I've been asking, I've been asking, I've been hearing about it. Where's the former fatty photo of me?

Speaker 1 I love that Tamara goes,

Speaker 1 I don't care about that.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 it's not about what you care about. You don't have to care about it.
Yeah. You're the one.

Speaker 1 She goes, I was just

Speaker 1 retaliating because you keep telling me. She goes, no, you were retaliating because I'm obsessed with you.
And so then you start showing pictures of me.

Speaker 1 And she's like, but I was like, you reached out to me in 2013 as a fan. And you're like, hey.
She goes, what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 By the way, are we on something? I mean, are you on Xanax? Because Tamara does have black eyes and she is so furious that her plans aren't working. She's doing a bad job.

Speaker 1 And it's just not like Tamara. And I I think it just, as cast members on the TV show, they're like,

Speaker 1 you're not even doing, you're always a horrible person, but you're not even being a horrible person well today. Like, are you okay?

Speaker 1 Like, you're fucked up. What's wrong?

Speaker 2 She's like, like, what are you talking about? Are we on something? I mean, Xanax or something. You're not even making sense.
Just stay on track. Okay.
We're supposed to be having a fight.

Speaker 2 And Emily's like, you know what? The issue is here. It's the whole thing here.
What you're saying is that she's obsessed with you. Like, to me, that's a deflection of what's real.

Speaker 2 The real root issues between the two of you and jen's like yeah what is the issue i don't know what is it i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know first no i don't know first no i said it first no i don't know i don't know until affinity what not you that's not allowed that's not fair until affinity i don't know

Speaker 1 And now Emily and Gina just start laughing because this is making no sense. And Tamara's like, clearly fucked up, right?

Speaker 1 So Tamara's like, well, I think it's been like a tit for tat over the past two years, you know. And Gretchen goes, okay, but where did it start? That's none of your fucking business, Gretchen.

Speaker 1 You're not my best friend no more. She goes, Okay then.
Yeah, you don't know nothing, Gretchen. Stupid Gretchen has.
I can't believe we were best friends for 10 years.

Speaker 2 Stupid. See, it just takes a little time and it always creeps right back out.
Unlike my former fatty photo, where is it?

Speaker 1 But there's a nicer way to say that. Samara's like, yeah, but Gretson doesn't know nothing.
So that's what I'm trying to say, Heather.

Speaker 1 How nice should that be when I'm saying Gretchen know nothing? Okay. Gretson doesn't know anything.
Okay, there. Stupid.
She knows it's stupid. Grayson's stupid on her face.

Speaker 2 She knows a lot. She knows a lot.
Thank you so much for pointing out that she knows a lot. And Tamara's like, what? What you told her? And Kitty's like, what? Tamara's like, what do you mean? What?

Speaker 2 Well, I'm asking Jen.

Speaker 1 Fuck off.

Speaker 1 She's like, I'm not.

Speaker 2 I'm not going to fuck off. You know what? All right.
You know what? Then Gina out of nowhere goes, all right, you know what, Tamara? You're being rude and you're sloshed. I'm sloshed?

Speaker 2 Yeah, that is what's happening here. Yeah.
And I'm not being, and Tamara's like, you're being rude. I'm not being fucking rude.
You're being fucking rude to everybody at this table, Tamra.

Speaker 2 This is actually my table and I don't appreciate that.

Speaker 1 I was like, do you know how Travis and I work for this table?

Speaker 1 Who?

Speaker 1 Who?

Speaker 2 Travis. I don't understand.

Speaker 2 Is that the waiter?

Speaker 1 And Gina's like, it's too much. I mean, it's too much.
Like, you got one eye open. You got no idea what's going on.
Look when she did that. You got one eye open because it comes to Tamara.

Speaker 1 Tamara's like, you're that.

Speaker 1 You're this.

Speaker 1 You got no idea what's going on. Like, don't comment the one sober person at the table.
Cause like, I'm just too sober for this shit in general.

Speaker 1 And let's say, it's not fun to be in the middle of all your bullshit, Tamara.

Speaker 1 And Heather goes, for any of us, which was the real stab because Heather is the one that's completely on Tamara's side all the time. So that was a real stab.

Speaker 1 And also for people to know about the fatty photo, it must have been Heather telling everybody. So Tamara is really getting her ass handed to her at this table.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So Emily's like, Jen, what would you need? No, I say table it.
I don't think tonight is the night. I do agree with a little bit of what Gina's saying.
I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 2 You don't seem like you're in your right mind to be totally transparent. You don't.
And it's just amazing because they're all like, you're wasted.

Speaker 2 And Tamara has just had a little scene where she declared she does not drink anymore. And you won't see a drop of alcohol in her when she has conversations anymore.
And so now she's been busted.

Speaker 2 Like, I mean, this is, I mean, to

Speaker 2 really flop this hard in five hours.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's embarrassing.
I mean, Tammy. Even

Speaker 1 though she's just sitting there like, oh my God, what do I do now? Plan A, Phil, Plan B, Phil. Even Heather turned on me.
What do I do from here? You will never see me again.

Speaker 1 You know, she's getting that look in her eye. Somebody's like, well, this is dumb.
Like, I don't even know where to go for here. And Heather's like, like, Gretchen, you want to try my gumbo? Yay, ya.

Speaker 1 It's very good. It's gumbo that sings Beyonce lyrics.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 So those lyrics are so simple, even Wendy Malik could sing along. So Gretchen is like, she's like, no, thank you.
She's like, does anyone want to try my ya-ya? Look at me.

Speaker 2 Television's Heather DeBrough experiencing things like Ya Ya and Gumbo and Jambalaya Yaya Ya. Oh, wait, I think I just realized.
Jambalaya is Yahya. I'm learning.

Speaker 1 No, I don't want nothing from you. Heavenly bro.
She goes, why would you say that? She's like, I don't want it. I don't want it.
It's that simple. Keep your Yaya away from me.

Speaker 1 I don't want nothing from you. And Shannon's like, well, I don't know how many drinks she had, but she did walk into my room with something she claimed was water.
Oh, didn't look like water.

Speaker 1 I just heard five hours ago that I'm never going to see her wasted again. So what is she doing, this alcoholic? I love that Shanna is like the tables are turning for Shannon.

Speaker 1 It's like, oh my God, it's already time that I get to turn the alcoholic storyline back on Tamara.

Speaker 2 So then Tamra gets up from the table because she's been doing for the past like two minutes. She's been sitting there like quiet, like,

Speaker 2 I'm not going to talk. I'm upset.
I'm going to cry on the inside. So now she gets up and she leaves.
And it's basically like Bali 2.0. So she goes out and Jen's like, this is bad.

Speaker 2 This is not a good night. Just kidding.
I'm laughing. It's great.
So Gina's like, it's because she's

Speaker 2 because I said she's sloshed.

Speaker 2 I swear, if Gina says sloshed one more time, I'm revoking all the good things I said about her at the beginning of the episode.

Speaker 1 I mean, Tamara walks off and they immediately all start like, oh my God, Tamara's fucked up. Like, oh, my God, what's going on?

Speaker 1 So good. So then Tamara goes to the elevator and a producer comes up and he's like, are you all right, Tamara? She goes, I just want to go home.
I just want to go home.

Speaker 1 I'm waiting for the elevator because there's a stairs and Teddy fell down those one time. I can't be traumatized.

Speaker 1 And back at the table, Gretchen's like, yeah, when she screamed at me, like, man, I was like, I'm not touching this. And she says, when she gets this psycho, you can see something in her eyes.

Speaker 1 And that is the truth.

Speaker 1 I mean, those eyes change. Heather's are always black, but Tamara's change.

Speaker 2 So Heather goes out to the hallway and she's like, Tamara, what is going on with you, honey? Why are you talking to all these poor people out here? Tamara's like, I just want to go home.

Speaker 2 You can go home, but don't talk to the poor. It's just not, it's beneath you.
You know, you're not helping yourself. How am I not being myself right now?

Speaker 2 I don't know, but I'm uncomfortable in this hallway with people in t-shirts and shorts and headpieces. Who are these people? Can we get away from them? No, no, because what?

Speaker 2 So I'm not fucking yelling, and that's why I'm like, you guys are uncomfortable with it? She's like, I don't want you to yell.

Speaker 2 I just want you to come back to the table so we can gang up on Katie some more.

Speaker 1 What is it? What do you want to say?

Speaker 1 What do you think about me? What do you want to say?

Speaker 1 So she starts having a fit and she's she's like back at the table. Jen's like, oh my god, Shannon, if it were you and you showed up like that, you would be like a drunk.
You'd be a drunk.

Speaker 2 Well, I gave her Gina's water.

Speaker 2 I didn't really know what else to do. I just wanted to keep her as drunk as possible so that way he could get off me for once.

Speaker 1 So I just wanted to give her Gina's water so that way she could have something to drink so I could finish her martini. I mean, waste not want not.

Speaker 1 So then back in the hallway, Tamara's like, I just sat down with Gretchen where I told her everything, and now all of a sudden, I'm the asshole, I'm the asshole, for getting mad that someone's not accusing me of roofing them.

Speaker 1 And Heather's like, well, you know. Well, now I'm the asshole.
Just let me be, I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this, Heather.
No.

Speaker 1 No one's saying, I don't give a fuck, Heather.

Speaker 2 No one's saying, honey, honey, no one's saying you're an asshole. I'm saying with Gretchen, she probably needs to take a step back, okay? Look, sit under, stand right here.

Speaker 2 I'll let my my hand flop onto your head as I say, take a step back. Look, I'm doing a small slam dunk with my hand on your head.
Take a step back. Do you feel relaxed now? Take a step back.

Speaker 1 So Tamara's yelling in the hallway and they can all hear her. She's like, I don't give a fuck.
This girl's contacted my daughter. Which is a lie.
She's called my husband, gay. Which is a possibility.

Speaker 1 And she's gone after me a million times.

Speaker 1 And I've been so fucking nice to her. I'm so nice to Gretchen.
Everybody knows it. Everybody knows it.
This shouldn't have been called the episode Make It Wasted.

Speaker 1 This should have caused the episode Someone At Least Brought You Sweater After Wasted. And that person was me, bitch.
I can't believe it, but somebody knew me.

Speaker 2 You know, when someone's husband's dying of cancer and you go on TV and you...

Speaker 2 You accuse them of having an affair and say that this person called you in the middle of the night and then you torment them this with this rumor for years and years and years, this is how you would pay me?

Speaker 2 I've just been nice to you. That's it.

Speaker 1 nice

Speaker 1 it's so hard i've been a good person so she runs out because the elevator's not coming and you know some producer is downstairs holding that elevator they're like do not let tamara get in the elevator so she just goes down the stairs instead and keeps looking behind her like fucking cameras you're following me right okay come on come on guys

Speaker 1 so inside they're like yeah that girl's crazy and drunk something's going on with her

Speaker 1 And then downstairs, Tamara's alone in the restaurant. She just turns to the camera and she's like, do we have a car for for me? Michael, let's come Uber.

Speaker 2 They're like, we're not paying for you to leave the shoot that you're supposed to be part of, you know? So Gina's like, Tamara, just texting me, fuck off.

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 2 And then Gina's like, and then, and so then I wrote back to go to bed. And then Tamara says, you were out of line.
And Katie is like, well, let me see if I get one. Oh, I didn't even.
get one.

Speaker 2 That's too bad. I was going to tell Kiki about it.

Speaker 1 Nothing to forward to Kiki. Could you send me a screenshot of the one that you got? That would be great.

Speaker 1 Well, she said, I'm out. Gina crossed the line.
No one is authentic. What did you do, Gina? Just, well, I told her I was slushed and not to tell, not to tell me, fuck you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I've had it with Tamara. I mean, you claim on your working yourself, but like you just said, fuck you, the wrong person.

Speaker 1 All right, everyone. As Gretchen would say, shut the fuck up.
Gretchen, what a line. God, I hope that makes it to the ads.
What a wonderful line.

Speaker 2 Did Gretchen say, is that a Gretchen phrase shut the up

Speaker 2 i love that she's like iconic now and heather's mine they have all turned on tamara and they're back at the table like yes we nailed camera tamara finally lifting gretchen up and gina and tamara's calling eddy be like get it from your flat out of here i'm over i'm done So then Gina's like, oh my God, she put on an Instagram.

Speaker 2 It was a long run. When life gives you real problems, this real reality shit doesn't make sense.
Peace out. I'm out.
Jen's like, she really posted that?

Speaker 1 Wow. She quit.

Speaker 2 She quit.

Speaker 2 Former fatty photo was bad enough.

Speaker 1 She just quit the show. Former fatty photo.
She used really fat font.

Speaker 2 That font used to be bigger, actually.

Speaker 2 So yeah, they're all like, she quit. Oh, my God.
Whoa, whoa. And Gretchen's like, yeah, I literally said in my head, she will probably try to quit the show now.

Speaker 2 Because I think was Gretchen there in Bali when she did this also? I don't remember. No, maybe not.

Speaker 1 I don't know if Gretchen was on that season, but I think that was just totally a Tamara move where she gets caught and she runs like hell, you know. And so Gina's like, I don't know what it is.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't know if it was a cry for attention. I just don't know.
And so Jen's like, well, once again, you know, Katie's in the line of fire. And it's like, here's the grenade.
Hold it.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to put in the pit, pull the pin and walk away. Explosion, huge explosion.
I'm in a wedding bikini. Ryan has a boner.
He's taking out his AirPods.

Speaker 1 I don't even know what's happening anymore. Tamara's on the phone with Eddie in the car.
She's like, I'm out. I don't need this.

Speaker 1 goodbye i'll see you when i get home actually i'm a big bear god damn it

Speaker 1 god damn it

Speaker 2 and that is the end to be continued what will happen well i think we all know that tamara comes back to shoot but it was a real surprising turn of turn of events i mean we knew that tamara quit during the new orleans trip we know that everyone like she had some sort of meltdown but what i was not expecting was that the entire cast was going to turn against her and like call her out like that was actually pretty shocking and gratifying to watch.

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