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Well, hello, everybody, and welcome to Watch What Clappens?

I'm Ronnie, and that is little Benuni Tunes Mandelker over there.

Hi, Ben.

How are you?

I'm great.

Thanks.

How are you doing?

Good, hon.

Welcome to your life.

Thank you so much.

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So there's that.

And then what's the other thing?

I think that's it for now, right?

Sure.

Sure.

I don't remember.

You know what?

Like, I don't remember.

We watched two housewives shows last night, and they were both amazing.

So it's just, I'm just astounded that I have any functionality left because I feel like I was flattened by them because they were so fun.

They were so good.

They were both so good.

And the SLC trailer.

Okay, but before we start, I have some personal stuff I need to talk about.

So I am in Los Angeles right now.

This is my front door in Texas.

Okay, it's my Texas friend.

Got it.

Some guy showed up today, rang the doorbell.

So of course I got the thing.

Can I tell you this guy is adorable?

I didn't get his face.

That's probably good.

You're not supposed to show random people's faces, right?

Okay, so we don't get his face.

Trust me, he's hot.

I was like, What is this person doing at my door?

I'm assuming selling something because he's wearing like a shirt with brands on it.

But then he like picked something up at the door and walked off.

And I was like, What did he pick up?

Like, did I have a package?

Is he stealing a package?

So now I'm showing you it's a bowl on a plate on a tray.

Do you see this?

It's a bowl on a plate on a tray, and it looks like cheesecake.

Is it cheesecake?

But now that I look at it, I can't believe I'm calling this person.

It's food, it's food.

And I'm looking, and but now I'm saying he's hot.

But now that I'm looking, I'm wondering if it's the neighbor's son who's now a teenager.

And I'm calling somebody hot.

I'm so sorry if I sound like a pedo.

I'm not a pedo, but now that I've made it this big, I'm like, uh, maybe that's the neighbor's son.

But maybe the neighbor dropped off cheesecake for you to be like, hey, Ronnie, we made cheesecake.

Do you want to have a piece?

And then you never answered the doors, they went and retrieved it.

Oh, well, that makes this all much less exciting.

I thought a hot person showed up at my door with cheesecake.

Now it's just the neighbor's son making me taste his dad's.

Get the fuck off my doorstep.

I'm on GLP1s.

What are you thinking?

What kind of neighbor are you?

Send over a hot person in a thong with that.

How dare you?

I'm going to have those.

I'm calling the H-O-A.

H-O-A-T-O-G-O.

Well, I'm actually really glad I brought this up with you because I was going to spend the whole day like, oh my God, someone's in love with me.

Some hottie just showed up with cheesecake.

Fucking neighbors.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, it's always very exciting when there's like a hot delivery person.

There once was like a postmate who was so hot.

I like took a picture.

I was like, Dom, look at this person who came and delivered a burrito today.

And

I have it somewhere.

I have the screenshot somewhere.

I wish I

I don't know maybe it's in the ring archive somewhere because he was like hot and he knew he was like in a tank top and he like smiled at the ring cam and I was like you know what you're doing yeah

he's like hey possibly the house of Steven Spielberg I'm available for acting

that's right

like Steven Spielberg who now lives in a townhouse um

so um anyway the point is whatever it was that you were supposed to add to the intro I don't remember what it was I just received my coffee from Starbucks because my French press broke this morning.

And by it broke, I dropped it.

So I'm like, I'm, I'm ramping up with the coffee right now.

I have to say, this episode of Orange County was so good.

It was so good.

Even Gina had a good moment.

Was it just last week where I was ranting about how every single season I say, I'm like, I'm like, oh, can we be just cared of Gina?

And then she does something good.

And I say, you know what?

She's earned her keep.

I'm refusing to do that this time.

But good God, she was really good last night.

I was

earned her keep because it's years and years and years.

She has not earned her keep, but she's not earned the keep.

She's earned some, she's earned my respect for at least an episode because, yeah, last week on Crappy Hour, I think we both went completely off on Gina and Emily.

And

now, you know, look at, look at Gina.

I was very impressed.

Look at Gina.

You know, you have to give credit where credit is due.

Does she make me crazy?

Sure.

Will I say it every day still?

Sure.

but give credit where it's due she is due credit very nicely done gina i'm proud of you keep that energy keep the energy she really she really um it was like a diphthong

and keep the energy you know what i mean

She, she, I feel like we've never really seen the side of her where she basically was like, she came in authoritatively and was like, you are not allowed to do this at my table, which may explain because last night I definitely had a dream where I was at a party and there was a terrible gay there and he was being so mean to me.

But I was like, I don't care about this guy.

I'm just gonna.

And I was sitting at a table with a bunch of people and they're like, you just have to get to know him.

And I told him off in front of the entire table.

I forget what I said.

It was such a good, it was also such a good tell-off.

I was like, I became Gina in my dream.

And I was like, you know what?

Go fuck yourself.

I mean, it was more than that because that's very basic.

But it was so good.

And I wonder, did Gina incept me?

Should I be alarmed?

I'm over here like, was the terrible gay me?

The dream.

No, no.

Because I dress like I got told off by somebody at a dinner party.

So I think I might have intercepted him.

No, this is like a...

Like, Ben, just you'll get used to him.

You'll get used to him.

I do a podcast with him every day for 13 years.

I'm used to him.

No, this guy was like

a floppy gay with like a scarf and was just like giving me evil eyes, was just being so mean to me.

And then I was like, you think that you did it?

I can't even do it in real life.

I don't even know.

A floppy gay with the scarf.

It was terrible.

And I told him off.

I was like, This is my table.

You came in here with your one eye clothes and you're sloshed.

You are being ruled.

You're being ruled right now, Tamra.

Okay, swashed.

And I also have to say, okay,

listen, we talked about it.

Gretchen Rossi, bad tweets, bad social media.

I am compartmentalizing.

I'm telling you this all right now.

I'm compartmentalizing.

You can come at me however you want.

Gretchen was fucking great this episode.

Okay.

She can come at me.

I don't care.

Cause, guess what?

Gretchen's the one whose tweets we found.

We all know a half, three quarters of the real housewives are not aligned.

I will say they're not aligned with me politically.

Okay.

And I cannot go on a witch hunt every single time.

Okay, I've just accepted it and I'm moving on.

Gretchen was fucking great this episode, and she had a moment, which we're going to get to, and you know, the moment that it is, that when she said that one thing, I was watching, I literally went like this, whoa!

Yeah,

well, listen, I've always said, Gretchen, if you come for Tamara as hard as you come for a trans and gay rights, you're going to do well, you know, and she did, she did,

she did.

Also, there's a difference between disagreeing with someone politically and being pissed that someone is liking the hateful shit that she's liking.

So, you know, I can disagree with people politically, but that's like, that's a little different.

You know, fucking.

I was just being, I was saying it politely to be like, you know, these people, so many of them have liked and supported

causes that

are in cross purposes to like

the rights that I support, that people I believe yes have.

So

I'm accepting that, but I'm also like,

though I'm still embracing my entertainment, I'm embracing my stories.

And I'm and

listen, even people we don't like do well.

And I think it's important to be able to, when we do this show, to be able to say, even our favorites are wrong sometimes, and even our villains are right sometimes.

And this time, our villains were right.

I mean, I was like, yes, Matt Go, you go, girls.

So

Matgo, girl.

You Matt Go, girl.

So here we go.

We start at dinner, at the end of dinner in New Orleans, the dinner where Heather got coffee book cockake by Joe the Waiter, and there was some ghost.

That was such a fun dinner, wasn't it, ladies?

That was very, very fun.

I was like, that was so fun.

Sounds like it's a thumb, bourbon.

Listen, can I drink this street?

Can I drink the street?

She's just up against the wall, just trying to drink the wall.

So they're walking down Bourbon Street, which you know Heather hates because the truth is, I think anyone over a certain age, maybe I'm going to say 24, hates Bourbon Street.

And especially if you are like a fancy schmancy person like heather debrow you are not into bourbon street she's doing her like poor person

fun down for everything i held pizza on the street once a new york persona she's like oh look at this it's a hurricane it's a beverage in a tall glass this is hilarious and you get to keep the glass as a souvenir and when you go home you can beat your maid with it

fun

fun

i was traumatized on Bourbon Street when we were in New Orleans.

We were there at like three in the morning.

Oh, yeah.

People were so wasted, including us.

We had been walking around and parading all day and we were with a group of friends.

And

we went to this place.

It was packed full of people.

I mean, it really was biblical.

Howards.

Howards.

It was just like biblical Sodom and Gomorrah.

I mean, I don't know.

It was like demons with drawing, you know, crazy demons everywhere is what I was seeing.

And this one guy was standing.

He was like, obviously cracked out of his mind, kind of dancing.

And he was like, I miss my mom.

Like he came right up to me and went, I miss my mom.

And just

drunkenly, I was like, call her, you know,

and he like came for me with his eyes satanic, like raging at me.

He was like,

like a demon from hell.

And I barely got away.

I was traumatized.

I mean, and then they tried not to see at our party.

And then I let them have it.

I pulled a gena.

I was like, you will not be rude to my party.

And then they sat us and everyone was like, Jesus, you were so nice 15 minutes ago.

I was like, the crazy crazy did something to me.

That, that, um, that guy who like went demonic on you, he was actually on the news a few months ago.

Um, he was like, I just saw Heather Dubreau on Bourbon Street, and I am traumatized.

Heather actually scared everybody scary off Bourbon Street.

It's safe now, guys.

It's totally safe for Ronnie.

Yeah.

No, we went to that.

We went to that restaurant, and I remember there was someone at our table who made a scene.

Do you remember that?

Me?

No, it was a girl.

They did not have a certain

like, they didn't have like a shrimp, a shrimp, and she

was so mean to the waiter.

Oh, really?

And there were drunk people.

Yes, it was something like that.

And there were drunk people everywhere.

It was chaotic.

It was so wild.

That was such a crazy night.

Yeah, I was like, it wasn't your friend.

It wasn't your friend, by the way.

It was someone else entirely.

Oh, no, that friend is Robin is that girl.

She's so chill.

She would never.

She was great.

I loved her.

She was really.

It wasn't her.

There was just some other person at our table.

I don't know how she had that.

We ended up with all these people because it was a parade day, and Robin knows, she lives there, so she knows all these people.

She was taking us from house to house.

Remember, we were going like a house party along the parade route.

So we got to go into all these cool New Orleans places looking over the parade route.

We met all these crazy New Orleans places.

We got such a busy night.

Yeah, it was, and so we ended up with this big ragtag group at the end.

We had no idea who anybody was.

It was wandering the streets.

That was basically like doing Heather de Brux before Heather DeBrux was doing Heather de Breaux.

So

Heather is like just pretending like she's not absolutely repulsed by everything going on on the streets.

And it's just like total chaos everywhere.

And then like some people wind up on a balcony.

So we have Emily, Gina, and Tamara and Katie are on a balcony.

And this is like one of these things where we're seeing them do having activities, but this is also a previously on the Real Housewives thing.

So, there's like lots of flashbacks interspersed with their chatter.

Yes, so Gina's like, so how are you feeling about Shannon?

Because I feel like it's good.

It's good, me.

And Tamara's like, well,

and then we see flashbacks of, you know, all this stuff.

Like, how could Shannon throw away our friendship?

And Shannon being like, just because I hugged Tamra doesn't negate all of the attacks and all this good stuff.

And then we see the attacks, like

Tamara calling Shannon an alcoholic and a drunk and a stupid person.

And then we go back to the present and Emily's like, they're not good.

They're just coexisting.

And

Katie's saying how like, oh, well, Shannon just hates me now.

So it's taking it off of you, Tamara.

She's like, yeah.

She does hate you.

And then we see a flashback to the party where Shannon goes, how dare you record me?

That girl is worse than Alexis Bellino.

She is worse than the Earl of Pearl, and he doesn't even eat vegetables.

Worse than Tamara Judge.

Well, we are done.

We are done.

Well, one thing I know about Shannon, she gets upset about something that she'll hold on to it forever, forever, forever.

That's also because you tend to get in her ear and restoke the fires of her rage every single time.

I love that Tamara's like, oh my God, she got mad about one little thing and she's still mad.

You chased her around calling her a stupid drunk all season.

You never let up all season.

She's like, what?

What happened to you?

Why are you mad at that?

Tamara, who like ridiculed

Shannon to her face and called her an alcoholic a million times is now like, ugh, whatever.

And then meanwhile, it's like, Katie, you like had an interaction with a blogger,

which by the way, I found out about by interacting with other bloggers.

How dare you?

Like, that's the thing that actually bothers her the most.

Yeah.

I just heard from some sources

who talk a lot on the internet.

Yeah, your sources are totally bloggers for sure.

So yeah, Emily's like, well, I don't like her dictating Jen's relationship with you, that's for sure, because

Katie shouldn't have any say in that.

Tamara's like, yeah, I don't like that.

No, she's not dictating Jen's relationship with anybody.

Jen hates Tamara because Tamara is horrible to Jen and always has been and is currently passing around fatty photos, fatty photos, fatty photos.

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And then we see a flashback of Shannon, a Jen saying, well, Shannon told me you better not roll on me.

And I said, well, I mean, why would I ever do that?

I can just walk over you instead.

And she said, no, I mean, that's a metaphor.

And I said, I'm not following.

So then

we go back to present.

And Gina's like, you know what?

With Gretchen, at least, like, she seems, like, reasonable and like she wants to, like, move forward with you, champ.

And we see.

like a flashback of Gretchen saying that she's been praying about it and she's been asking God to change her heart on the subject.

And And God said, new number who does.

Yeah.

If you were really praying and God was really listening right now, God would say, why are you wearing a bow in your head?

You're 50.

Take the bow out of your head.

Okay, baby Jane, take it out of your head.

You look like a baby trying to be Jackie Onassis and baby Jane at the same time.

Stop it.

Change.

God's like,

if I wanted to have you have a change of heart about Tamara, I would have done it many years ago.

I made you come back on this show for a reason.

Like, God's like, I got something to do on Thursdays at eight o'clock, so get to it.

God does not lead people to it to go on real housewives.

He just doesn't.

I'm sorry.

Did you say God does not need people to go on real housewives?

He does not lead people.

God's not like, you know, here's how you're going to fulfill my plan.

Go on to television with bows.

That'll stop everything bad in the world, you know?

No.

No, God does not, although don't tell Whitney Rose that.

Because you know who'd made the real housewives?

The Lord did.

I can't.

So Gina's like, yeah, she's reasonable.

And yeah, Gretchen prayed.

So then we see flashbacks between Tamara and Gretchen fighting.

And Emily's like, well, you're working on yourself, Tamara.

You're going to therapy.

I mean, just prove for people that you can be different.

That's all you really need.

Oh, my God.

Look what I've got in my purse.

Oh, beignee.

This is hilarious, America.

So now we're in the hotel, and Gina, there's a train going by.

Gina's like, hi.

She's waving to the train,

which I don't know.

I feel like there's a metaphor in there somewhere.

It's like Gina just like waving at some inanimate object and barreling beyond her.

Gina's like, guys, I heard about a puppy parade.

It's basically something we should get involved in because it's like a parade that's full of dogs that Doreen had returned to a kill shelter.

Yeah, it's a puppy parade.

And then we, there's someone named Robin on the phone, or Barkus.

The organization is called Barkus,

which reminds me a lot of the Worcus Twins.

It's like, imagine a Worcus parade.

It's just like we're both called.

Carl, Carl, Carl, Carl, Carl, Carl.

But they're dogs.

It's all the dogs.

Carl, Carl, Carl.

So this lady's like, we're not just a puppy parade.

We're one of the biggest dog parades on earth.

I'm like, okay, Robin, you need to.

Okay, Rob.

Okay.

Relax, Robin.

Okay, sorry to

she needs a little bit of a hobby here.

We're not just a puppy parade.

We're a lifestyle.

We are not only just a puppy parade, not even just a dog parade.

We are the biggest parade in America.

Okay, Robin, you just need to settle down here.

Okay.

Robin's really into that puppy parade.

And Emily's like, well, I have three dogs.

I should be in a puppy parade.

We want to do it.

And Robin's like, we would love to have you welcome the biggest parade in the world with really no

criteria to reach to be in the parade.

Just call us on a random parade day and join us.

Yeah.

So then Jen, Gina, and Gretchen and Heather get on a trolley and they're just loving it.

And Heather's like, so where are we going?

Also, does anyone know, does this trolley have another level up maybe with bar service?

Just wanted to know.

No.

Okay.

Is there service on this trolley?

Because mama could choose a little drink.

We're going to go to the French market and then there's a dwarf parade.

And so Gina decided that today is the day that she wants to have some fun because, you know, every other day in vacation, you plan to be utter hell.

And so

she's strategically chosen to have my very mentally tough friend emily take one for the team and go with the troublemakers

i'm gonna have like a little fun at lunch and i'll see you again of bitches good luck

so the troublemakers are katie tamara and shannon um uh also known as the people that are the most entertaining on the show i'd like to add and then um well maybe not

the ratings to the other trolley

yeah exactly so then they are in a car and they're talking about, I guess, last night.

And Tam's like,

Shannon, any bruises from falling off the cock?

And we see that last night they were riding a mechanical bull and it was, the bull was called a cock, which doesn't really make sense because cocks are roosters, but maybe it was a mechanical rooster that she fell off of.

I don't know, but they're very excited to say cock a bunch of times.

I've looked up bullcock and it says bull penis walking canes

so i don't know if that's something you can buy guys i tried bull's penis so you don't have to oh actually that's on real house hose in miami i think they actually do that um bull penis canes so there's a cane that's shaped like a bull penis that you could buy

so that's something so i'd like to thank shannon for bringing that to my life um but yeah shannon falls off and then we see katie alone in a car which i feel like is going to be the rest of katie season uh talking to matt on the phone.

And she's like, so I just had it out with Shannon.

Like, I mean, we're supposed to go to Cafe Dumont, and Shannon walked in, and she's like, I'm not going if she's going.

And so we see this happen.

And Shannon's like, I'm not comfortable right now.

And I will not be around you.

And I'm not going if Katie's going.

I don't care if they're donuts.

I'll go somewhere.

Wait, donut, you're right.

Okay, Katie, you're going somewhere else.

Okay, you're not coming with the donut.

Okay, I would like to take a vote on whether or not Katie should come with with us.

If all in favor say Ben Yay and all against say Ben Nay.

Okay, Ben Yay is winned.

Katie, you're out.

So I love that, like, God forbid that Shannon like eats a small fried square of bread with powdered sugar in the presence of Katie.

She's like, I do not feel comfortable whatsoever because she may record me with powdered sugar all over my face and that would be mortifying.

So Katie's like, whatever.

I don't need to get this beignet here.

Yeah, she's like, I wasn't going to eat that anyway so so you've got shannon who refuses to talk to katie for recording her

but shannon's totally fine with hanging out with tamara who told every blogger on earth about shannon being an alcoholic and then got a let and then threatened um pictures from alexis's bellino's phone against

i mean i don't know shannon's shannon's priorities are a little odd i have to say

so katie's basically telling Matt, like, whatever, I'm going to go with the other group of girls.

And she's like, and Katie even says basically what you just said.

She goes, I mean, you've been around Alexis, who is suing you with her boyfriend for $75,000.

And I can't eat a goddamn beignet with you.

Give me a break.

So then we go back to the trolley and Jen's asking Gretchen, everyone, how they felt about last night.

And Gina's like, you know, it was so good to have a night where it was like fun.

But like, you know, like, I spent a lot of time hearing your frustrations, Jen, like, and now your frustrations and everything, Gretchen.

And like, are we ever going to address any of those things, you know?

Yeah, cuz Gina is going to make sure while she's saying she wants to have the fun bus for the day, she's also like, but you're still going to fight with Tamara later, right?

Okay, we've all got that.

We're that's still on the agenda, right?

And Heather says, well, you know, Tamara said, you know, were you not in the room when she said she really wanted to talk to you?

I mean, Tamara is trying.

Tamara is a good person now.

Oh, just,

I know Tamara's been terrible.

I know, but underneath it all, she's a good, good toaster.

And then we see a flashback to Emily saying they need to have a sit-down and Tamara saying, okay.

And that's, that's, that's all it was.

Yeah.

For Tamara being a good person now.

Tamra can't wait to make up with you.

Everything is water under the bridge.

12 years ago, she said, I cannot wait to make up with Gretchen.

And then the flashback, do you want to meet up with Gretchen?

Yeah.

Yeah.

But you know,

you have to be friends with her now because she's in a very emotional state because of Toddy.

Okay.

Who's that?

Toddy?

I'm not.

Toddy, her little friend that she does the radio cast thing with on the YouTube.

You mean Teddy?

Teddy Mellencamp?

I don't know who you're talking about.

She's a lady.

I think she hurt her ankle or something.

Tamara's very upset about it.

Something about trying to go up some stairs.

I don't know.

I don't know who this woman is, but I did get her address and I sent her a bowl and I said, here, you can send this to Nobu and see what it feels like to be a wealthy person.

Enjoy.

I don't know who she is.

Sounds poor.

Can Tamra catch a break?

guys

so Gina's like well I mean it seems like a good opportunity to make some progress

So Gretchen's like, oh, I'm trying to be optimistic about a possible reconciliation with Tamara.

But the Bible is very clear because there's a commandment to forgive.

So basically, this is a biblical moment I'm going to have with Tamara.

Oh, God, you were so phony with your fucking Bible every two seconds.

Give me a break.

You married Slade, first of all.

Who was terrible?

And speaking of people being right, you know, terrible people being right, Tamara wasn't really completely wrong about you and Slade.

So

I don't want to really hear about all of that when you have that history with Slade and his son, ma'am.

Keep it to yourself.

So the trolley arrives at the French market, and Heather's like, ooh, should we get a drink?

Look, there's maids everywhere to bring us something.

It's like, those are people shopping at the market.

I'm not sure I understand.

People voluntarily go and just shop for the groceries for their employees, employers.

I was hoping that this is where I could purchase some French people.

They're very, very good at setting out cutlery.

So, Gina wants to get a strawberry smoothie, and Heather's like, ooh, with no booze.

So, a virgin strawberry smoothie.

And also, two almond breezes, Garcon.

We are some wacky ladies, are we not?

I love being young, hip, and very carefree.

Yeah, I feel like it would be sacrilegious not to eat a beignet anymore.

Then, so we're gonna do me.

So they order some beignets and then Gina is,

Gina says, I could not be happier that Tamara's not here to catch me in my petty photo.

I'll just take all the beignets you got back there.

So then we go to Tamara and she's walking with Shannon and Emily and Tamara's like, whoa, right there, right there.

That's where Teddy and I sat right at that table.

I know.

This is like four weeks ago.

So she's like, oh my God,

last time I was at Cafe Dumand, it was probably four weeks ago.

I was here with Bronwyn and Teddy.

Which I did not realize about that Bronwyn was also in the mix in these trauma flashbacks.

She's like, which Bronwyn was it?

It was, I think it was

Bronwyn Burke or Bronwyn Wyndham or whatever Bronwyn's name is these days.

I think it was her.

Look at that.

Look at Bronwyn.

Never forget, she was always an ardent Tamra defender.

We saw it with our eyes.

So

Tamra is saying that they, right there, they were eating beignets.

And then after that, that's when Teddy found out about her cancer.

So it's a bittersweet feeling for her because it's like the last sort of moment of innocence, I guess you could say.

So Tamara orders some beignets and,

you know, she's, then they go off and they eat the, she and, well, now she, Emily, and uh, and Shannon go off to eat their beignets on like a bench.

So that means that Emily gets to be wacky.

She's like, oh my God, I've got sugar all over me.

Isn't this crazy?

And she's like shaking and like, oh,

sugar.

I'm really dumb.

So, wait, they all just went to Cafe Du Monde?

Why'd they all have to go separate?

No.

The French market people went and got beignets at the French market.

Oh, come on.

Keep your food separate.

Like, if you're going to go to separate places, get separate things because it confuses me in my head.

Yeah, because it's like a lot of beignets.

Just a lot of beignets.

A lot of beignets.

I feel bad because we could have all gone as a group to beignets and we don't feel bad.

So I'm like,

look at me.

Now I'm covered in sugar.

She shakes and like Pig Pen, just like dusts of sugar come off of her.

And Tamara's just looking at her like, disgusting.

It's snowing over here.

So then with Shannon,

say it again.

It says like Jax's bedroom.

Yeah, it's like Allie Sheety shaking off her head in Breakfast Club and all the dandruff falls off.

It's the snow in the picture.

So Shannon's like, I mean, what am I going to do with Katie?

What am I going to do?

And Emily says, you know, just being different.

But she irritates me.

And they all laugh at her.

And then, meanwhile, with the other girl,

the other girls, Heather's like, do you think you and Torkis will get married, Gina?

Travis?

Who?

My boyfriend, Travis?

Don't know him.

Do you think you'll marry that poor hairy person that you're living with in squalor?

I don't know.

I mean, everyone keeps asking me that.

I just like, don't know.

I'm like, do people keep asking you that?

Do they?

Anyway, do you need to get married?

I might, I mean.

And Heather's like, is it important to the kids?

Because

if it's not important, would they be interested in, I don't know, a role in the Dubrow estate?

I don't know, washing silverware or doorknobs?

Do they have to be available for your wedding?

What about you, Jenina?

And Jen's like, I feel like kind of like you.

Like, I just, I don't know if I, if I would have to be married again, but I, I think it's more for the kids and for Ryan, just because he wants to jerk off to me in a wedding bikini.

So that's something I

do.

Whose kids would this be for?

My kids.

You have children?

Yeah.

Like, when you say that, do you mean like doggy children or like house plants?

Oh, I've got like six children.

I'm not sure I follow.

You have children?

Yeah.

How did you afford that?

That's crazy.

So Jen is going through her thing.

Like, oh, my God, what if I get married and it doesn't work out?

I mean, oh, God, thank God I'm married to someone completely stable, like a fuckboy.

who's next door lives next door to Jack Tripper and

seems certainly ready to settle down.

What could go wrong?

Yeah.

So Gina, so then Katie shows up and Gina's like, what?

Where did you come from?

She's like, damn it.

I don't want Katie here.

And Katie's like, well, I was supposed to go eat Beniets at Cafe Du Monde.

And then Shannon said, I'm not going if she's going.

And I feel safe around her.

I don't feel safe around her.

So I was like, well, I don't need to go.

It's okay.

You guys can go.

And it's, by the way, Ronnie, reading this back, I was like, you know, it was sort of surprising to me because it felt like at the end of this episode, it felt like everyone turned against Tamra.

And it was sort of surprising to me because it seemed like all season, everyone was very pro-Katie.

I'm sorry, anti-Katie and pro-Tamara.

And it's been frustrating.

I was surprised that there was this pivot.

And I'm realizing, oh, here's why there was the pivot because Tamara essentially indirectly like did not stop.

They're blaming Tamara for having Katie come over to ruin their side of the trip.

Like, wait a second.

We're not supposed to have Katie.

This is Tamara's fault.

Tamara could have shut this down if if she did it.

Down with Tamara.

Well, they also made the mistake of sent of, you know, Tamara made the mistake of sending Katie over to the, letting Katie go over to the enemy side where she could, you know, cavort with them before dinner and like lay the groundwork of how terrible Tamara is, which no one really needs to lay that groundwork because Tamara is terrible.

But also, Tamara just showing up wasted and Tamara get caught, getting caught yet again in some bullshit that everybody knows is just Tamara bullshit did not help her.

You know, Tamara really got herself fucked over in this.

She really, it was amazing.

So Katie is there and Heather goes, so they all just got up and left you by yourself.

Are we allowed to do that?

We can do that.

I've spent three seasons and I could have done this to Gina all this time.

Let's do it right now.

Okay.

Let's try it.

When my authentic praline arrives, just have them send it to the hotel.

I'm leaving right now.

But this is ridiculous.

I mean, Shannon has the right to be pissed, but Shannon's coexisting in this trip with Tamra.

Tamra, the worst person on the planet.

So what is she thinking?

And Shannon is telling us, oh, really?

Really?

There is no comparison between that one and this one.

Come on.

I mean, can't you just coexist with Kitty for the sake of the trip?

I mean, that is.

Nope.

Nope.

Nope.

Nope.

That is not going to happen, America.

So now it's time to shop.

Let's go shopping.

One group goes shopping, and Emily is still on the bench talking to the girls.

And she talks about how she saw Jen the other day.

And we went horseback riding.

And she told me that you, Shannon, keep telling her, don't roll on me.

Don't roll on me.

Like, roll on Tamara.

And Shannon's like,

roll on me.

Roll on.

Hey, don't roll on me.

Don't roll.

Roll on me.

Roll.

I was merely quoting my favorite singer, Steve Winwood.

Roll with it, baby.

Badoop, badoop.

Right?

Anyone?

No?

So, Shannon's like...

I was saying, don't take the roll from me.

Do not take the last roll.

That is my role.

I was merely saying, I have some Rolos, and please don't take them.

Okay, they're a lovely snack.

Wait a minute, like you're trying to get people to turn on me.

Is that what she's saying?

And Shannon's like, well, I would never say something like that.

Well, she meant don't fuck me over and go make up with Tamara is what she meant.

Oh, wait, Shannon, see, never said that.

And Shanna's like, oh, I, well, I've, I've talked to her about my relationship with you and what happened between us last year.

I don't think I will ever forget.

I will never, ever forget that thing that happened that time.

I don't remember it right now, but it was horrible.

And it was luck for me.

I was at a very low point.

I had just been assaulted by a house.

A house.

How dare you?

How dare you?

I will never forget what you did to me, Tamara.

Never for the rest of the days that I'm alive.

I will never forget, which is why I am 100% on your side today.

So, Tamara's life.

I was at a very low point.

And two of you at one time called me a drunk.

You're suddenly bothering me, Shannon.

Well, you were two that day.

It's like, well, I can totally understand how you feel that way.

And that's why I don't really drink that much anymore myself.

And Tamara says, yeah, here comes Tamara's storyline.

i've learned that alcohol is not really good for me it's really it's alcohol is very difficult when you're on the spectrum and having one drink okay but if i go past that that's when it gets nasty and dirty and i say things that i don't mean and my goal is to have conversations with people with no alcohol in me bitch

She goes, you won't see me wasted ever, ever.

You're never going to see me wasted again, everybody.

That's it.

Me, Tamara Bonnie, sober kind of person in new orleans the best place to go sober suddenly and shannon's like well you know i did have a good time last night getting fucked up with you she's like well can't you let it go shannon we have a 10-year friendship a 10-year friendship

and we know what tamara's doing this is what tamara does every time she's rallying the troops to come stick it to somebody you know she suddenly starts coming up to people like why aren't we friends i just don't understand it we've always been such good friends okay now go start Katie on fire.

Here's a match.

You know, I, I, I just, I, I, I, I, Tama, I, I, I, I, I, I just, I, I, I, I, I, I just, I just, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I just can't jump back in.

I cannot jump back in, Tamara.

I can't do it.

But she does immediately because Shannon's a wuss and she does it every damn year.

Like, right at that moment, she jumps back in and she says, I don't like fighting, but I'm not going to roll over either or roll on it as Jen C says.

Right.

Will not be hurt by you again I get baiting my hair yes I do such lovely hair

I love you everything

too I love you I miss you so

much

good men

you want her

mentioning everything

I know it's so obvious I'm hopeful that Tamara's apology is authentic and we're not screaming at each other we're coexisting And

let's just sit with that.

Also, when I was sitting with that, I accidentally sat on my beignet.

So does anyone have an extra one?

I'm just curious.

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So the other girls are shopping around and Katie's like, that's what we need.

Look, there's sage.

And Heather's like, um,

a child holding sage.

All right, put the child in the back trunk of the Uber.

You know what?

They're easier to train when their brains are still stretchy.

Oh my God, sage.

Finally, I can put my maid in this.

What?

Oh, you said sage.

I thought you said cage.

Never mind.

And Gina's like, oh my God, it's a snow globe.

I can get it for my daughter.

Who buys a snow globe on vacation like who especially with a real housewife suitcase packed full of shit you can't just put snow globes full of water in suitcases are they even allowing that now like why can't i bring toothpaste onto a goddamn plane but you can carry around a snow globe full of what looks like drugs i feel like a snow globe is a double infraction it's a triple infraction it looks like drugs uh there's i'm sure more than 2.5 ounces of liquid and on top of that you could crack that open and become sharp glass and a weapon so down with snow snow globes on a plane.

Um, so then, um, we see a flashback of Gina telling Gretchen and Jen about Tamara talking about a former fatty photo.

So, it's fatty photo time, guys.

And Jen's like, oh my god, this was driving me nuts in the trolley.

I just felt like, you know, Heather's trying to stand up for Tamara and like trying to defuse this situation.

And we see a flashback and Jen saying, Well, if someone came up to me and called me a single white female, she didn't call you a single white female to me.

Anyway, that movie starred Bridget Fonda, who was thin and gorgeous.

Can't we just take the gifts where they come?

And then

we see a flash, like Heather's like, she never said to me that you're a single white female.

And then we get a flashback within the flashback.

You know what?

I call her.

I call her a single white female.

She seems like a single white female to me, bitch.

Well, whatever the picture is, I guarantee you that was a time in my life where I was home raising my family and I was not focused on myself.

I wasn't focused on what I wore.

I wasn't focused on a fucking gym.

So she should probably take a playbook out of mine and take a note out of my playbook was what I meant and fucking raise her family.

This whole like dumbing it down to make it seem like it wasn't that bad as bullshit.

And I can't actually wait to see this picture.

I cannot wait to see this picture.

This fatty, fatty photo.

Give me a fatty photo.

I will live it.

I will be on the cover of Good Housekeeping.

fatty photo all you want i'm not ashamed of anything show me as a size four i dare you damra

so what so what i was three pounds heavier at one point in my life wearing a flouncy dress i don't care put me on walrus fancy i'm proud of it like it's such that they keep showing the photo first of all i love how she is actually like it this photo is plaguing her because i think she think there must be some

there's something she is like, she's trying to act like she's owning it, but she's also, I think, embarrassed.

And she, I think she has this in her imagination, some photo where she's like a balloon or something like that.

And they keep showing the photo and she looks completely normal.

And it's just so funny.

Oh, she's like, I can't, like, she's bringing it up to every, she's like obsessed now.

Like, everywhere she goes, she's like, sir, have you seen my former fatty photo?

Ma'am, have you seen my former fatty photo?

I need to see this thing.

I need to find it.

Yeah, it's ridiculous.

She's like, well, I hope she doesn't show the clip that she's been showing.

This is Leonardo to Caprio when Jen was raising him terribly.

Look at everything she put into.

It's like, that's what eating Gilbert grape.

Could we please not

add into the conversation?

So now Tamara, Emily, and Shannon are in a car talking about going on to a parade,

the doggy parade, and the other car,

the other women are riding along and Heather's like, oh my God, Gina, you are shedding all over me.

Oh my God, sorry, it's my coat.

No, your poorness.

I feel it shedding on me and I'm very uncomfortable.

I feel the chill of coupons next to me.

Can somebody get me a sweater?

I'm starting to be able to smell things like penny savers.

I need to get out of this car.

Well, it means a lot to me to be part of the Barkas Parade, which brings awareness to adopting dogs.

Dogs that don't eat french fries because they're terrified of them.

I feel like having a dog around helps me feel normal.

They're therapy.

I can't imagine life without dogs, which is why I've got a hot dog in my purse, everybody.

I do think the dog feels.

Emily's like, having a dog around me makes me feel normal.

The dogs are like, get me out of this health house.

So everybody talks about how they love dogs.

And then we get to rescuing.

And Shannon's like, well, I think that it's great that our group can go out and support rescuing animals I wouldn't do it but people do apparently so do you you ain't used dogs

I mean, if we didn't have, if we didn't have rescues, if we didn't believe in rescues, Gina and Emily wouldn't be here.

So

then we find out that Gina actually has two non-rescues.

She's like, sorry, you know, I think that adopting animals is great.

I do, and I fully support it.

I just have like two very fancy doodles.

I'm like, what are you going to do?

I can't save everybody.

You've literally saved nobody actually.

Just save something.

Something.

And what's the point of paying for a bunch of people?

Save something.

Yeah.

And what's the point of like buying two dogs that are so expensive just to like sharpie on them like doodle on the side of their fur?

Why buy such expensive dogs just to put them in a stupid house?

Put them in the bro's mansion no that that that argument had made had no logic i thought i was going somewhere with they did rescue a condo

uh

well i did buy some cleanup items from marshalls does that count as rescuing

i rescued archie from the four seasons so

um Speaking of which,

would anyone mind if I added four seasonings to my beignet right now?

I am just starving.

So, uh,

I got my coffee.

So, uh,

so now they're marching in this parade, which looks actually really fun.

And, um, Emily's like, hi, everybody.

Thanks for coming out to support Barcas.

All of us have rescue dogs except for Gina.

Here's photos of mine.

I just was like waiting for someone to throw an egg at her, like, boo, get off the stage.

We want to watch the parade.

Yeah.

And how did she just call to be part of this parade, but now she's like speaking for the whole parade, you know?

And she's like, yo, look, everybody, it's two of mine.

And Robin's like, and how important are they in your life?

She's like, more important than my husband.

Shane falls asleep on the couch the majority of the time.

Togo sleeps in the bed next to me.

It's also a sandwich, Jane.

And we spoon.

I mean, my dogs are my soulmates.

Well, this was fun.

And by fun, I mean, why are we doing free things on the street, Gina?

Is there anything else to do?

You know, it's like, guys, I wanted to have a really fun day, so I found a restaurant that's going to let us pass out flyers with discounts on them,

guys.

We're going to go see the voodoo queen, Bloody Mary.

Oh, well, about time we got a cocktail around here.

No, that's the name, Bloody Mary.

So they go to the Zoom Inn, another Ronnie Carom classic total.

It's like, welcome.

I am Bloody Mary.

Welcome to my voodoo shop.

May the spirits will come and say hello.

And if you turn around, there's a voodoo tobacco.

This lady is terrifying.

Is Bruce Valange playing this lady?

She's like the mom from Hairspray.

It was like Bruce Valange meets like Race Hunter Fire.

So it was

whatever her name was again.

I forgot.

But

she was, but she was like very animated.

Like she clearly has a shtick that she does where she tries to like scare people, but also be like funny and fun.

So, okay, all right, we teach you how to feed the dolls and we tell them what to do and who they are.

But everything that you do to the doll, do it with intention.

It could be the man or woman that you're trying to lure into your life.

Like Travis?

Who?

Who is this Travis person that people keep talking about?

You dress them, we bless them.

Well, I feel like Shannon's exhausted all other options of getting a man, so why not try voodoo?

Oh, please, you met your man, your man on GChat.

I know.

The least romantic of all the messaging services.

You weren't even dating your man, and your man was like, Well, we're both single.

I guess we should get married.

And you said, okay.

Like, that's you have the least romantic story out of anybody on Housewives.

Please save it.

At least Shannon's out there trying.

Yeah.

So Mary's like, no, everyone, voodoo was not to harm each other, okay?

But try to get what you want out of it.

Sabin's not evil.

She goes, humans are evil.

I'm in a bigger era.

Okay, everyone, go in the courtyard.

I love how she's like, voodoo's not evil.

You all are the problem.

We are the problem.

The dolls are scared of you.

The dolls asked me to put a couple of pins in you, okay?

Oh,

hello.

Television actress has a question for Bloody Mary.

Yeah, we need it.

Do you have any voodoo dolls that have a resemblance of Wendy Malik?

Is that a silly question?

Because she does sort of look like a voodoo doll on her own.

Do you know what I'm saying?

I'm so sorry, man, but we're not allowed to make voodoo dolls actually working in high-quality networks at the moment.

Damn it.

The woman's really pressing my buttons.

Wait, is this true?

Wendy Malik is working on a prestige program right now?

What sort of stuff?

That's with Harrison Ford.

With Harrison Ford, Eileen.

She's winning.

Wendy

to the opposite of a voodoo doll.

Someone get Eric Sultz on the phone.

We need to do prestige together.

You want to look like Wendy Malachi, and they need a few more pricks in Yanni.

Get over here.

Terry, Terry, call the agents.

Tell them we need to find any A-list actor over a certain age to be in some TV show on some program, preferably on the HG network.

Do this right now, Terry.

Let them know that I know Josh Flagg.

Years ago, when we first started doing live shows, people would bring us like gifts and stuff.

And we got, I got a gift.

I don't know what you got that year.

She gave you something too, but she gave me a, I don't remember, but she gave me a voodoo doll of Tamara.

It's a Tamra voodoo doll.

And it even came with like little pins.

It's like this little doll that had Tamra's face printed on it.

I still have that in my closet.

And I have it in my closet in Texas because I don't want to leave it out because it just seems seems so weird like who would keep a voodoo doll of tamer it's just bizarre but i had to keep it i couldn't get rid of it so it's back that's the difference this is the difference between like like the like the the ronnie people and the ben people because like you get voodoo dolls and people are like ben i i made you um something that you could like put on your sewing machine

it's like here's something to keep your fabric aligned and for you it's like voodoo doll for tamera

i love it It's one of the best things I ever got.

I'm keeping it.

It's great.

I'm going to be buried with it.

And that's no shade, obviously, to our listeners.

I just think it's really funny.

Like,

what comes down the way for both of us?

So then we go to Shannon, Gretchen, and Tamara.

And

Mary's like,

so

are you onlookers and not participants?

Is that it?

Okay.

There's no such thing as an observer.

And that goes for all of you.

So once you're an observer, you're an observer participant.

Okay.

So you're part of this.

So you can pretend you're not part of this, but you're part of this.

Okay.

Lady with the ribbon in your hair.

I'm looking at you.

Okay.

I'm looking at you, pencil with eyes.

And Gretchen's like, I'm okay.

Well, then I'm going to leave.

And she says she's leaving because it's spooky, but we know she's leaving because she thinks it's satanic.

Yeah.

She's like, voodoo.

I don't like voodoo.

Okay, sure.

So I also think it's funny that this lady is like the ambassador for voodoo.

Like, isn't like voodoo, like, born out of like Africa and like Haiti.

And you have this, like, this old white lady be like, let me tell you about voodoo.

It's sort of a funny, funny

ambassador.

So Tamara is, but listen, I love Bloody Mary.

She can be on the show any episode that I want, any episode, any day, I should say.

So Tamara's like, if I don't have enough problems right now, I don't need any bad spirits.

I'm like, you are the bad spirit.

You are the voodoo spirit.

You are the pin.

You're the one.

Yes.

You're the one that's infusing all those dolls.

You're like the fucking spirit stone.

What does he collect on the what are the stones?

The infinite, you're like an infinity stone of evil.

Like you're going to bring all of these things to life, you know.

Well, what is a voodoo doll going to do?

I saw the Brady Bunch.

So I don't know what that means.

Was there a voodoo episode of the Brady Bunch?

There must have been.

My first exposure to Voodoo, I think, was like Indiana Jones and the Temple of Dune.

Dune.

Doom.

Temple of Dune.

Temple of Dune.

He's like, we're going to find the spice, guys.

And wasn't there like a kid who like a young prince in there or some who was doing voodoo on people?

And people were like, ah.

And I was like, I love it.

I want to do that to all my enemies as a child.

I was like, such.

Wouldn't it be so easy?

Yeah, just to torture people with a little doll.

But she's reframing voodoo as like a goal setting thing.

She's like, here's what voodoo is: positive affirmations.

No, that's not what voodoo is.

Like, you need to steal someone's hair, glue it on something, stick them with a pin, and then watch them have a headache.

You know, that's what voodoo is.

That's what I've learned from movies.

I didn't know voodoo was like, oh, wow, you get a doll and you tell it that you hope it gets a man.

You know, you know, I don't know how you do the voodoo that you do, but what a man.

So,

Gina is like, so they walk out.

Basically, Shannon, Tamra, and Gretchen walk out, which is funny.

And Gina's like, that's an interesting throttle to walk out.

And she's not wrong.

It is sort of hilarious.

These like legacy members of the show, legacy blondes

are exiting stage left because they don't.

Tamra's like people who love Jesus.

Come outside.

Jesus left and staggered.

We're not going to have any positives.

Not going to have any positive.

I wouldn't say that I love Jesus, but I do believe that there is a beignet vendor out there.

So I will join you.

I figured as long as we're having positive affirmations, I'm giving this doll a donut.

Look, it worked.

Shadow just voodooed herself to have a donut.

Well, everyone, it's not my fault I had the donut.

Unfortunately, the doll made me do it.

So

does the doll want another donut?

I guess so.

The doll can't control herself.

Have another donut, doll.

Please don't take a photo of that doll.

A fatty photo of a voodoo doll.

So Gina's like, what do you think that's talking about?

Well, I mean, I'll tell you, earlier today, Shannon and Tamara basically made up.

And I just sat between them.

I mean, they're going to be, they're not going to be best friends and braid each other's hair and spend the night in each other's room, but it was a step forward.

And Jen's like, well, listen, I want Shannon to do whatever she needs to do with Tamara, but Shannon, who's rolling on who now?

Who's rolling on who now, Shannon?

It's true.

So Gina's like, all right, well, one person made up with Tamara.

That's pretty good.

So then Tamara, the other, the trio, are outside.

And Tamara's like, are they making voodoo dolls about us?

Would that be funny?

And Shannon's like, well, unfortunately, I do think that they are because I am feeling very compelled to go over to this Benjamin vendor again.

It's not my fault.

I swear to God, they're doing voodoo on me, quite literally.

They're going to be possessed.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Jen's voodoo doll was like, oh, let's make make it look like tamara and jen's saying yeah well if tamara was to be making a voodoo doll of me it would be like my hair's longer yeah i'll use hair since it's fine jen's ugly yeah i'll use a past extension chin's fat yeah and i'm gonna do fearless videos so i can be like tamara

tamara's even mad about like the voodoo dolls copying her so

shannon's like so what happened when katie went over to your side at the fringe French market?

Tell me everything.

Spill the deets, girlfriend.

And Fretchen's like, oh, when she came up and out with us, um, well, she just said that, like, you said that she's a criminal and that you don't want to be anywhere.

What?

What?

I never said the word criminal.

I said she does illegal things and should be in jail because that is in her nature and that is her station in life as someone who does illegal things.

I never said she was a criminal.

I just said she should be taken care of by the criminal jort,

the criminal court justice system.

And the criminal courts.

Criminal Jordan.

Also, the jorts are criminal.

Jorts are criminal.

We know that that was some voodoo.

Whoever made those was under the spell of voodoo.

Jorts.

Well, I said you committed an illegal act.

And I have said my peace with you.

And there's not one fucking word that you can say to me that will change my mind.

She recorded me.

And that is against the law.

And Gretchen goes.

Oh, we're back to that.

Well, I like Katie.

And, you know, but listen, in fairness, Shannon, you got a DUI and that's illegal too.

And she's like, oh, my God.

Oh, she just shut Shannon up right without.

That came so out of left field to me.

I was not expecting Gretchen just to just do that.

And it was so good.

I mean, because Shannon, like, could you want to be friends with people who commit legal acts?

Well, you committed a DY, which is way worse.

She could have killed someone.

She literally shut Shannon up.

I mean, Shannon was just like, it was,

I went, oh,

oh,

oh, shit, shots are fired.

I mean, that's the first person I ever agreed with Gretchen on.

And so Gretchen's like, well, what do you think of the situation, Tamara?

She's like, well, I think maybe you give her another chance and she fucks up again, you know?

Okay, well, says the girl who where she just went and tried to get a story reported about you, she had a meeting with a woman.

A woman?

Can you believe it?

Of all the genders to meet with, she met with a woman.

So Gretchen is like, who's that?

And Tamara's like, Kiki Monique.

I don't even want to say it, because it's so disgusting.

Oh, God, that she met with Kiki Monique.

So then Tamara's like, I was worried about this story before we started filming.

Somebody in the press reached out to me to let me know that Katie had lunch with a blogger.

Can you believe it?

That I had to hear from a blogger that Katie has been meeting with bloggers.

Awful.

Just awful.

Her name is Kiki Monkey and she said some pretty horrific things about me.

Okay, fine, but did Kiki Monique repeat the things that she said?

No.

So why are you dragging her into it?

I mean, Kiki Monique's always been like, she's always been so nice to people, I think.

Right.

I mean, of course, we're friends with her.

We like Kiki Monique, you know?

So, I mean, maybe I'm not being

like fair or whatever, but I've never heard her say anything evil.

I've always thought she was was very nice.

Kiki is great.

We don't have to be fair.

We're not the New York Times.

We're not like, we're not like reporting on the news.

We can be biased, but also I just can't take seriously a situation where you're mad at someone for talking to bloggers.

And the way you found out is because you talked to two separate bloggers about it.

So Tamara's like, she's like, well, I told you, Katie said that you told her that I roofied you.

You know, I had to rewind that three times so I could follow it.

Okay.

Tamara found out from someone who heard that Katie told Kiki that Gretchen told Katie, that Tamara roofied Gretchen.

I was like, oh, let me, let me process this.

I'm like, I'm reading Thomas Pynchon right now.

This is like so labyrinthine.

But like, so here's already Bronson Pincho.

You are ridiculous.

You are really smart.

You are ridiculous.

Come on.

Don't be ridiculous.

Don't be ridiculous.

Not you are.

That's like the Shannon version.

You are ridiculous.

That's a classic Bronze Bingo.

Don't make me get all Balky on you.

I will do it.

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