#2967 The Valley S2E18 Part 1: When The S**T Hits The Fanet

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Speaker 1 Hello, and welcome to Watch What Crapins, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker.
That's Ronnie Carom.

Speaker 1 And today

Speaker 1 we are celebrating the final episode of Jax being on Bravo until he's uncanceled again. But for right now, it seems pretty good.
Seems like this is the one. This is it.
This is it. Being steady, eh?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Hey, Ronnie, how's it going? I'm good.
How are you doing?

Speaker 1 I'm doing really well.

Speaker 1 I'm sad that the valley's over. It was really so stunning this season.
Great, great work. And

Speaker 1 I think I would have to categorize myself as quite happy. Also, I'm quite happy because tomorrow, of course, we are going to have our Miami recap.
And we already saw the Miami episode.

Speaker 1 I've got to say, it was so good. I was laughing so hard through so much of it.
I cannot wait to recap it. But then, in case people didn't hear, Miami is actually moving to Thursday nights.

Speaker 1 So we have a little bit of a traffic jam with our recaps because we just do with our scheduling and we also have nothing on Mondays.

Speaker 1 So so what we're going to do is orange counties are going to be on friday and then miami recaps will be on monday mornings that we finally have something on monday mornings again so that is the programming update on that front

Speaker 1 super bizarre they i mean they're not going to have anything on wednesday tuesday

Speaker 1 or

Speaker 1 what the hell they don't have no they have wait oh yeah

Speaker 1 no monday is below deck tuesday is mcb right but then next tuesday

Speaker 1 no monday is mcb and Below Deck. Tuesday, I don't think there's anything on there.
Tuesday, they're going to show Love Island, which is bizarre. They're going to show last season of Love Island.

Speaker 1 They're starting it from the beginning, it looks like. And then Wednesday.

Speaker 1 Maybe they'll do more Love Island? I don't know. Then Thursday, I actually, believe it or not, I'm actually okay with them moving Miami to Thursday.

Speaker 1 And the reason why is they're putting it behind Orange County.

Speaker 1 So they're now going to have an Orange County lead-in, which I think is, that's that's nice because it means to me that Bravo is trying to get more viewers on Miami.

Speaker 1 I think they were just trying to have Miami anchor a whole night. And for whatever reason,

Speaker 1 I can't explain many people's actions in 2025.

Speaker 1 So I can't explain why people aren't watching Miami. I think people are watching it.
Like the chatter is going up and up and up and up. I think it's getting to that.

Speaker 1 It's approaching where it needs to be. But for people who are here listening to our valley recap and have never watched Miami, I mean, you are so missing out.

Speaker 1 I finished watching the episode and I was like, this is really like the perfect show. Like there are some times I watch Miami.

Speaker 1 I actually think it may even be better than Salt Lake City because it is just so good.

Speaker 1 So that's my plea for everyone to watch Miami because it's, you just don't want to miss out. That's me.
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Speaker 1 Guess what? We don't know either because we haven't even discussed it. I don't know either.
Yeah, we haven't discussed it. I have no idea.
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Whatever it is.

Speaker 1 I watched Alien Earth last night. Pretty special.
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Speaker 1 That would actually be kind of a funny thing to recap, even though it does look scary. I'm actually okay with it.

Speaker 1 Tamra gets sent down to Earth on a crashed alien ship. Tamra.

Speaker 1 Yeah, seriously. It's terrible.
The original xenomorphs.

Speaker 1 That's my opinion.

Speaker 1 All those aliens, all those xenomorphs are like little Tamras running around eating cats and Tom Scarrow. They are.

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Speaker 1 I only saw the first alien. I've actually never seen any of the others, including Aliens, which I've been meaning to watch for, I don't know, about 20 years.
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Wouldn't that be funny if we just recapped the original Alien? Sure, we should. I'm down.

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Speaker 1 just asked every five minutes like people did in the movie theater.

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Speaking of aliens, let's talk about this cast of the valley. So

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 1 I'm so excited for you, Ronnie. I am so, so thrilled because I feel like today

Speaker 1 You're really going to have a fun time.

Speaker 1 This is going to be, yes.

Speaker 1 the the fire hose will open and i cannot wait to hear your rage i feel i was watching the episode last night i was like ronnie is going to be furious

Speaker 1 really i mean i just watched and kept going oh shut up i mean i feel like the same amount that i always do but i feel very peaceful and calm today and rage free so let's see

Speaker 1 what happens

Speaker 1 all right well here we are part three of this reunion a really strong reunion and also one of the few times i will say all three parts were deserved i I felt like it was, it was crammed full of good stuff.

Speaker 1 And where we left off was this fight with Danny and Jason being like, you're a clown, dude. You're like a clown.
You're a clown. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? How could you call me a clown?

Speaker 1 You know how many times I tried out for that role. You know what? I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Why do you have to bring up my trauma trying to audition for itch? It's just not nice.

Speaker 1 Daniel spent months hiding under the grate on our street trying to get method to get that role and he still didn't get it. But you know what, Daniel?

Speaker 1 don't let them steal your peace don't let them steal your peace daniel you don't even know how many red balloons i inflated okay i was getting into the role

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 janet's like you know what i'm actually glad i you know i've talked about it a lot because it's happened multiple times ever since multiple times the sexual assault has happened we don't have evidence nor we have stories we don't even have fake stories about how it happened but i'm just gonna say to everyone it happened multiple times since and andy who i mean we all suspect has grabbed plenty of butts in his day and told people, get daddy a drink.

Speaker 1 Okay. Like, let's just,

Speaker 1 let's just get that out there. Okay.

Speaker 1 I think we all know that this happens on a regular basis. Andy is just perplexed by this whole line of questioning, even though it's his.

Speaker 1 But, you know, he's very like, wait, so you're saying he's touched other women's butts? Like, why do I care about this?

Speaker 1 I mean, he just has this look on his face, like, is this what we've gone to on this show?

Speaker 1 And Janet's like well he's been inappropriate and made other women feel uncomfortable multiple times since as recently as the super bowl

Speaker 1 first of all isn't the super bowl national women feeling uncomfortable day i mean

Speaker 1 i think men have been making women feel uncomfortable on the super bowl since the dawn of the super bowl i've never been to one where i haven't been uncomfortable for every woman in the room okay

Speaker 1 yeah um Second, prove it. And by the way, I know I'm minimizing by making jokes about what Danny did.
It's just that it's talked about ad nauseum. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 So yes, Danny still sucks for grabbing someone's butt and doing all of that stuff, but Janet is just taking it to this level that's ridiculous. Prove it.

Speaker 1 Where are these multiple times, Janet? Who are these people? Name them. Name them.
And name them. Here's the, here's, here's the thing.

Speaker 1 I actually don't, I don't doubt that Danny has gotten drunk and then 30 and made people be like, given people the creeps, you know?

Speaker 1 I don't either. I think we both, we both, we both believe that.

Speaker 1 I think that the problem is that Janet is, you know, she's doubling down, I think, because she doesn't really want to pull, she doesn't want to take anything back.

Speaker 1 So she's kind of doubling down and now making herself a crusader on this topic. That she's, I'm not sure she's qualified to be the advocate in this moment.

Speaker 1 Like, because she doesn't, she's not bringing like facts to be like, hey, listen, I've got to say, on this occasion, this happened, this occasion this happened, this occasion this happened.

Speaker 1 And she's not bringing, I don't know, she's not bringing enough. So it just is coming out as kind of like

Speaker 1 sort of general quat, like accusations, which I just think is like a little harmful. Like, I think it's, and, and I think that she's doing it really,

Speaker 1 and I,

Speaker 1 there's something about the sanctimoniousness of it, not the sanctimoniousness of it, but it's like the, she is putting herself in this crusader position.

Speaker 1 It almost feels like to retroactively um sure up her position sure up the fact that she was over the top in yelling sexual assault on that boat i think yeah and i think that the reason the reason it's so effective is because the argument that she's using is designed to make you uncomfortable it's designed to make you unable to argue with it because she's using she's taking the old victim cloak right and she's using that's

Speaker 1 serious you can't argue with the victim cloak right so she's taking that and she's using that as a weapon against someone, but none of it is her.

Speaker 1 None of it is her victimhood. So when it comes to Jasmine, okay, we get the Jasmine thing.
Jasmine has every right. to stand up and actually Janet has a right to say something about it too, frankly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I think that Janet

Speaker 1 did that. So

Speaker 1 you know why? But she's taking these terms. Right.
She's taking these terms. She's taking terms like, he's made women feel uncomfortable.
Well, we all know what that means. She's taking turns like

Speaker 1 sexuals. She's taking these big terms and she's using them as weapons because you can't argue with those terms.

Speaker 1 Because if you argue them, then people are saying, why are you standing up for someone who would make women feel like that or do that to women? It's not standing up for Danny.

Speaker 1 Danny's a pig for doing that. But Janice's a pig for taking all of these things to fight with somebody just because she doesn't like them when she doesn't believe any of this shit.

Speaker 1 And you can't go around accusing people of like sexual assault when you have no proof. And I'm not talking about the Jasmine thing.
I'm talking about this.

Speaker 1 You've made made inappropriate, you've made women feel uncomfortable. Well, who is it? So then we find out, because these.

Speaker 1 Well, it's, I mean, it's a little fraught because I think when it comes to discussions, and this is where it all becomes like this ball of yarn, because when it comes to discussions of like, oh, you have no proof, a lot of times there is never proof in these incidents.

Speaker 1 So it's like, sort of, it always comes down to what he said, she said. And this is why actually a lot of guys get away with it because there's never any proof.

Speaker 1 But I think that what we're, we're kind of, I do think we're agreeing on this, which is that it seems like on that boat, she blurted out sexual assault which like technically maybe that may technically okay it fits under there but realistically we understand that the word those that phrase is loaded with a lot more meaning than just the legal definition and she she took it too far by saying that and instead of sort of saying i did take it too far i that like that was bad she's now doubling down and actually saying that now she's going to be like an advocate for this sort of stuff, which is hard to argue against because like who would say like fuck you for being an advocate advocate against sexual assault.

Speaker 1 Like no one's going to say that, but she's also, like you said, victim cloaking herself by doing so. Well, and she's

Speaker 1 just to your point where she's saying where victims are often met with the argument, there's no proof and you have no proof. That's what she's counting on.
But she's not a victim.

Speaker 1 She's not the victim. So also it's like saying you don't have proof of what you're accusing people of doing.
These other people have not accused him. You are accusing him with no proof.

Speaker 1 So that's the difference.

Speaker 1 But she's taking this terminology that if you argue with it in any way, you're just a pig misogynist who's standing up for someone who did something shitty, which I'm not doing.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying people are accusing us necessarily. I'm saying that that's the arguing that she uses.
And that's why she's a dangerous person. She's a gross fucking person.

Speaker 1 And to say, like, you've done this multiple times, who are they? You have to name them now. And to say the Super Bowl, okay, great.
So then Nia is telling her, that's a lie, Janet.

Speaker 1 You're so good at lying and you're making it sound like he's going out and grabbing women when he drinks. And she goes, well, until the behavior stops, I don't feel bad about talking about it.

Speaker 1 And And there's a couple people on this stage that know about it. Okay, then who? Let's find out who.
Yes, Janet. She's doing enough to, she's doing enough.

Speaker 1 Like, it's almost like she's just, she like, maybe we don't need proof, but maybe we need to hear, like, what are you talking about? What has brought you to this place? Like, what have you heard?

Speaker 1 Because it's like, you can't just like go halfway and say, I heard things, and then you don't follow up with any details. Maybe it's not that we need proof.
We maybe need details.

Speaker 1 Well, it's not because no one said proof. I mean, I guess I said prove it, but I'm saying name the people.
Name them. Like if you're

Speaker 1 going to make it,

Speaker 1 but you can say like this happened on this, you know, what I heard from someone is that Danny did X, Y, and Z to them. And then I also, this person said Danny did the X, Y, and Z.

Speaker 1 But if you're just like, I heard things, I think that's very harmful. It's like either you don't say it

Speaker 1 or you say it and you come in with sort of like, this is something that real that happened. And we should all as a cast be concerned.
But the sort of half and half thing is like not great.

Speaker 1 Well, exactly. And from what we know from the show, from what we've seen her say, she said, you went to a fan event.
You were at a fan event and you were grabbing people's butts or doing whatever.

Speaker 1 You were doing all this stuff to fans, right? And you were making the fans really uncomfortable. Well, who did you hear that from? Brittany.
Well, Brittany, did she say that? Well, I didn't, I didn't,

Speaker 1 I didn't see that. Jason said it.
And then Jason, did you see it? No, I never said that.

Speaker 1 So that's what we know so far. So this is where Janet stands.
This is the ice that Janet is standing on.

Speaker 1 And it's making me crazy that the only people calling her out are the people that are being kind of attacked with it. And they really have no leg to stand on because Danny did do that with Jasmine.

Speaker 1 So it's like, he's, he's got, so that's why, that's why I have to make it very clear. I'm not standing up for Danny.
Like, fuck Danny. Okay.
This isn't about Danny.

Speaker 1 This is about her taking something that's very serious to a lot of people and minimizing it for her own shallow gains. And it's really frustrating to watch.
So now they do it again.

Speaker 1 So Nia calls her out for being a liar. They said, who told you this? What, who are you talking about? Who are these couple of people you're talking about? So Janet says, well, Michelle.

Speaker 1 And Michelle says, um, okay. So Brittany, well, you said that you felt uncomfortable on your birthday around Danny.
Okay, shocker. This came from Brittany again.
So.

Speaker 1 But now this is interesting because Brittany starts giggling very uncomfortably. And she's like, well, you know, Danny did get pretty drunk.
And

Speaker 1 you were like, follow me around for a little bit. But like, I mean, you didn't like Mike.

Speaker 1 And you didn't touch me nor nothing but like his personality just was very much changed and like he's being very flirtatious and i don't really know how to explain it but he wasn't that same guy as he was on halloween and i was like

Speaker 1 I low-key thought this was like a little upsetting because she seemed so uneasy about this. I think she just didn't want to be lumped into all of Janet's bullshit.

Speaker 1 But she basically was saying again, like, he was getting flirty with me. And like, she wasn't going to bring it up.
And she's like,

Speaker 1 yeah, he was flirty with me. I mean, like, Danny clearly is not a good drunk.
I'm sorry. He's not.
But then, you know, Janet, yeah, it's not that he's a good drunk.

Speaker 1 It's that Britney said something like, Danny was wasted. Danny was wasted.
And I don't know if he was like, I don't know what that deals. Whatever she told Janet, Janet took it to say, he's made

Speaker 1 women uncomfortable multiple times since until his behavior stops, his sexual assault behavior stops. It's like, just, it's just so, it's just frustrating to watch it.
You know,

Speaker 1 she makes me crazy. She makes me fucking crazy.

Speaker 1 So Nia's like, I think it's that's important to specify because the way that Chad talked about it, he's like, well, you said he grabbed people. And Jason's like, no, I didn't say he grabbed people.

Speaker 1 It's like, yeah, you did. You said the same thing.
It's like, well, he's gone. He's done things other times.
And it just, it wasn't Jasmine and Melissa. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 So, so Andy's like, Danny, Jasmine said in Santa Barbara that she knows you have a drinking problem. Do you think you have a drinking problem? He's like,

Speaker 1 Angie, Andy, and Angie, Angie.

Speaker 1 I don't, I mean, me having a drinking problem.

Speaker 1 That's ridiculous. And Jasmine's like, well, the only reason I know you have one is because of what you did.
And, you know, I felt like there had to be some kind of issue or something with alcohol.

Speaker 1 And then Jason's like, do you think you have a drinking problem? Do you think you have a drink?

Speaker 1 I'm like, even if he did have a drinking problem, why on earth is he going to have like a, like a come to Jesus moment with you, Jason, after you and Janet have just come so hard for him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think at this point it's pretty clear he has a drinking problem. And I actually agree with Jason when he says we all have a drinking problem.
It's the most honest.

Speaker 1 I think he was trying to trick Danny into saying something, but

Speaker 1 he kind of spoke for everybody because Jason gets drunk and acts like an idiot and yells at women all the time on this show. We've seen it multiple times.
So he's not really off scot-free either.

Speaker 1 That was my favorite thing when he said that. I think we all have a drinking problem and how upset so many people got.
Like, what? Especially

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Speaker 1 Quince.com/slash crap inspiration. So he's like, Do you think you have a drinking problem? Donnie's like, oh, well, I haven't had a drink in a few weeks, which is a problem.

Speaker 1 I can say that. That's been rough.
And Jason's like, well, everybody on this stage has issues with alcohol, to be honest with you. And they're like, what? And Jax goes, huh?

Speaker 1 Jax is the most shocked. He's like, well, why am I the only one getting shit?

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 yeah, and Kristen's all offended, like he said. And he goes, and the fact that you won't admit that you have any issues with it.
So Danny's like, okay, so do you have a drinking problem?

Speaker 1 And he's like, well, it's a battle for me, you know, because if I'm going to choose to drink, it's something that every time I have to think about it.

Speaker 1 But seriously, you can't say everyone on this stage has a problem with alcohol. What about Nia? Don't say something bad about Nia.
That's just like a bold-ass statement to make about everybody.

Speaker 1 So Jason's like, well, I mean, I guess I've never hung out with Andy.

Speaker 1 And they all laugh. It's like, you know, I just, I don't want to get all worked up.
Like, I know I think they'll like, like, make this a thing because like, you know, they're good people.

Speaker 1 Like Danny and Nia are are good people despite the fact that he's oh yeah they're good people when they're sober they're good people when they're sober

Speaker 1 like they have a beautiful family they have a big it's like but you just call me a clown clowns aren't beautiful how could you say such a thing uh and jesse's like yeah you should apologize for calling him a clown I really like Jesse gaping.

Speaker 1 And he's like, no, he's a clown. I mean, look at the guy.
So Jason can't really make up his mind what he's trying to do today.

Speaker 1 You know, he's a flip-flopper, and so Danny's like, Well, you're just name-calling now, clown. You call me a clown? It's not worse than calling somebody daddy.
I mean, really?

Speaker 1 So, Jason's like, Okay, you're right, you're right, I shouldn't have called you a clown. That was immature.

Speaker 1 Uh, so Brittany's like, Wait, wait, I can say none of us think that you're like a bad person. I just think it was these certain incidences that you acted just out of your character.

Speaker 1 That's all, that's all.

Speaker 1 All right, I'm bored. Rumors about Jason ditching his wedding band was one ring toss game that Janet refused to play.

Speaker 1 Janet loves Dave and Busters. What a personality.
What a personality.

Speaker 1 Jasmine, Jason thinks you made up the ring rumor. How did you feel accused of this by someone you were such pals with?

Speaker 1 So Jasmine's like, I was just hurt that the fact that you thought I would really like go out of my way to make up a rumor like about you like taking off your ring.

Speaker 1 Like, first of all, that's the worst whack rumor I've ever heard in my life. Like, are you kidding me? Like, that is so whack.
Like, on the scale of zero to whack, that is the most whack.

Speaker 1 It's whack times five. I mean, give me more respect.
If there was a mole, he would be whacked right now. I'm telling you that.
He would win at David Buster's because that was whack, whack.

Speaker 1 That was, that was whack. If I were released a one-hit wonder song, no one believes that.
So, like, obviously, it's a whack rumor.

Speaker 1 It was very whack. It was 100% whack.
Return of the whack.

Speaker 1 So, Kristen's like, Whack and the

Speaker 1 What'd you say? Whacking the beanstalk. That was like whacking the beanstalk.
Like, throw your magic beans on the ground,

Speaker 1 climb up a fucking rope. Because I was whack.

Speaker 1 I want my baby whack, baby, whack, baby, whack, baby, whack.

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Speaker 1 It's too soon.

Speaker 1 So Kristen's like, yeah, I could do way better than that.

Speaker 1 So Jasmine's like, yeah, maybe it was my fault for speaking on it when I was in frustration with Janet, but like i didn't make that shit up and i didn't lie okay i didn't lie so okay well weeks after it was put to bed you know janet you went to get ring tattoos to debunk a rumor that you said you didn't care about i love that andy hates janet

Speaker 1 the way i'm just going through my cards of your uh quote unquote storyline and you were over something for three weeks and then got ring tattoos uh

Speaker 1 well

Speaker 1 funny story it really it was not necessarily to debunk. It was like, once this is out, it just feels like a can of worms that you just can't put it back.

Speaker 1 I was like, you can literally put worms back into a can. Yeah, worms go back in cans.
Worms are like, they get in there. It's the toothpaste that you have to have.

Speaker 1 You can't put worms in a toothpaste tub. You can't do that.
You can't do that. You know, and I've been telling Jason, Jason has never had a tattooed before this.
And I wanted him to get one.

Speaker 1 And I felt like kind of it was a fun excuse to like make light of it because like we make fun of ourselves in situations.

Speaker 1 We're very relatable people that america should love and i've always kind of wanted a wedding band tattoo because that always works out well for people and i thought it was cool and so we just had a day of it that's all i wish they had showed us a clip of this scene because i love her rewriting this into oh yeah you know it was just a fun excuse to you know make light of it just have fun just a fun scene me and chasing getting it was hilarious jason you're sure you're getting this tattoo this means so much to me because i'm like so insecure about people

Speaker 1 like replay the scene. This was not a fun light scene, Janet.

Speaker 1 So Zach, you said it was comical that Janet and Jason laughed off the ring broomer at the shark party. God, I love that sentence.
But later made a big deal of it. Why do you think they did that?

Speaker 1 He's like, I mean, they were like, oh, I guess that's our storyline.

Speaker 1 So that's what they did. I mean, no storyline about espresso pods for them.
I have a really great espresso pod holder, by the way. It's going to be featured heavily in season three.

Speaker 1 Well, at first, I'm like laughing it off because I know this is not true, but it also made me realize our friendship is not getting to a better place.

Speaker 1 So, like, that's not going to help us get to a peaceful place this summer. And I was like, bummed about that.

Speaker 1 And also, it was a joke, and that like Jason and I have like a pretty calm, boring marriage that, you know, and in that sense. So, like, I really don't know why America hates us.

Speaker 1 I mean, we're just two boring people, just doing boring things, you know, accusing people of sexual assault and playing games and, you know, trying to avoid that low-hanging hood in our kitchen.

Speaker 1 That's it, really. Just simple people.

Speaker 1 The truest thing Janet has ever said on this show is Jason and I have a pretty calm, boring marriage.

Speaker 1 So Kristen's like, oh, now you're relevant. Now you're relevant.
You did it, Janet. And how is she relevant by the

Speaker 1 ring tattoos? I don't understand that logic.

Speaker 1 Well, you know, Kristen, do you owe Kristen an apology for making you relevant?

Speaker 1 Good, Kristen. Janet's like, no, I mean, this is out there publicly.
People are going to be questioning his character. You have to own up to that.
You have to own up to that. I mean, even the

Speaker 1 drug-addicted sex assaulter next to you probably agrees with that.

Speaker 1 Reputation is very, very important.

Speaker 1 People don't care. The only people who perpetuated it all summer long was you two.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 yeah, Luke's like, yeah, no one talked about this. I mean, I don't mean this in an asshole way, but it's literally you're not important for fans to care that much about.
Okay.

Speaker 1 But after the shark party, when you both laughed and I looked right at you and I said, I was just being an asshole. You hurt my friends.
I came after you. I said that to your face.

Speaker 1 Jason, you can roll your eyes. I'm being honest.
Cook on. Yeah, because Jason's activated over there.
Everything, Jason is so pissed off at this point.

Speaker 1 He's just rolling his eyes and like grabbing Janet's hand and then ungrabbing her hand, ungrabbing it, and then grabbing it and ungrabbing it and just like shifting around on the couch because they're losing this so so bad.

Speaker 1 And I love the, you're not important enough to care. It's like a very stasi, you know, a very Lisa to stasi lie.
I'm like, you're not important enough to hate.

Speaker 1 So Jason's like, oh, we hurt your friends. What are you talking about? We hurt your friends.
And Danny's like, what are you talking about? You forgot the whole storyline. Come on.

Speaker 1 He goes, oh, yeah, we're not going to get into that. Well, you're asking.
That's what she's talking about. So Janet is like, oh, of course the ass scrapper's laughing.
Of course he is.

Speaker 1 Of course he is. That's what ass grabbing people do.

Speaker 1 of course they laugh they're just laughers laughing and laughing and laughing i told you to your face i was just trying to be a bitch i mean come on and so jason's like why are we not allowed to be mad about you being a bitch which is a fair point so kristen's like it's not that you're not allowed to be mad but you guys would not shut the up about it the whole summer Yeah, I mean, their point is nobody cared about the ring thing.

Speaker 1 It was like a stupid thing Kristen said when she was mad. And the only reason it became a thing is because Janet made it into a storyline.

Speaker 1 Because at first Janet just laughed it off like well everyone knows that's not true Kristen was which was actually a very smart move and it deflated Kristen's whole thing I mean even we even us watching the show we're like yeah that was lame by Kristen because they they had like a three-week thing where they're like Kristen is gonna say this thing and she finally said it and we're like

Speaker 1 that's stupid you know and Janet laughed it off and it was like well played you know that was a well played uh she got out of me which is rare to get something out of me from for Janet but she got that out of me and then she just decided well i guess we need something to do let's be pissed off about this thing and they just have egg on their face Yeah, well, Jason's saying that actually, really who he was more upset with was Jasmine over the whole thing because, you know, her being the source, that, you know, they had a great relationship.

Speaker 1 So that's why they got mad because it was Jasmine. And Kristen's like, but you guys say, make sure you don't shut up though.
She goes, well, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I mean, I know, but we weren't going after you like during the whole season. We weren't going after you.
And she's like, oh, I watched the show, Jason. I watched it.
He's like, He's like, So did I.

Speaker 1 Kristen's like, You call me a liar. You said my reputation and shit like that.
I do not have a reputation of making things up or being a liar. I'm like, Well, Kristen, I mean,

Speaker 1 I don't know so much about that one. I think your whole first season was about lying about fucking Jacks.
Like, your whole, your whole beginning of this show is about you lying.

Speaker 1 So, do you remember why you were fired from being a girl? Remember, a girl who was like, You gotta have faith, faith, faith. Oh, you've got to have faith, faith, faith.

Speaker 1 I love Sanctimonious Kristen. Like, I love that.
She's like, I am known for being truthful. I am known for finding shit out.

Speaker 1 She's like a passion of

Speaker 1 the truth.

Speaker 1 Well, Kristen is Detective Doty.

Speaker 1 You know, I guess that would be, that's what she's referring to is like her reputation as Detective Doty and like bringing Miami girl in town, you know, shit like that.

Speaker 1 I like, I like, but also, yeah never mind that's just you know kristen i just i love how she annoyed she is in this episode so she's like yeah i have a reputation for uncovering the truth and not exaggerating everyone knows that i never exaggerate everyone from from the most random person in the middle of nebraska to all the people at the g4 summit they all know i do not exaggerate unborn babies no

Speaker 1 if you asked nine out of ten bunny rabbits they would tell you i'm not known for exaggerating.

Speaker 1 I was watching Alien Earth and all those xenomorphs arrived and they said, guess what? We're here to find Kristen Doty because we hear she does not exaggerate.

Speaker 1 So Andy is skeptical. Andy's like, oh, is that your reputation?

Speaker 1 She's like, yes, uncovering the truth. And inserting myself in places that are none of my business.
Not being a liar, not exaggerating, not my reputation.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, jasmine at the beach you screamed at janet saying she was a shit ass friend she's a vibe killer and she gives karen energy what did janet do that made you so mad other than being a shit ass friend being a vibe killer and giving karen energy i mean you just listed three pretty good ones yeah

Speaker 1 yeah that feels how many more do i need

Speaker 1 she's like um well i wanted to talk to jason and as i'm talking to jason janet is just spitting at me. She's like, you're a snake.
You're a liar. You're whack.

Speaker 1 And Jason's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That didn't happen.
And she, you know, she goes, snake, you go, snake. You said snake.
It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1 Just like, um, if they had that footage, they should roll it because I do not remember saying that. No, you did.
You said, you're a whack snake.

Speaker 1 And Janet, you were just like crossing your arms in this whack way. And you were just like, snake, liar, whack, whack, snake, whack, liar.

Speaker 1 And you were just standing there and you were like this, snake, liar, snake, snake, liar. Yeah.
You were like, you know what?

Speaker 1 If you were chips, I would order some wac-a mole because that's how whack of a snake you are. Okay?

Speaker 1 you said it janet i remember and when she said that i was like no she didn't i mean jasmine is notoriously terrible at this and she's also a horrible flip-flopper like jasmine not janet jasmine jasmine's story changes all the time she flip-flops on people constantly she's anti one person to janet and then totally going and acting like she's been on that person's side the whole time.

Speaker 1 I mean, Jasmine, she's bad at this game and she's full of shit too, or she just remembers things completely wrong.

Speaker 1 But yeah, even

Speaker 1 this part, I have to stick up for Janet because, wow, this is not true.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, Janet was interrupting and getting in the way, but she was not the one saying snake. It was actually Jason.
And they should.

Speaker 1 The answer should have been, I'm trying to talk to my friend, Jason, and you kept interjecting with your little Karen.

Speaker 1 And I'm not trying to talk to you. And I lost my temper at you.
That's what happened. But instead, she's like, and you sat there and crossed your arms and called me a snake over and over.

Speaker 1 It's like, no. Oh, it didn't.
Yes. Don't make me stand up for Janet.
That's the worst thing you could have done, Jasmine. Now I'm just disappointed.

Speaker 1 So we see the flashback. You're giving Karen energy.
And

Speaker 1 Jasmine's like, anyway, you wouldn't let me speak in that moment. And I was just like, let me speak to Jason.
Explain to him the situation, this wax situation.

Speaker 1 All right, Jason, were you surprised to see Jasmine get upset like that? And he's like, I mean, I think my face in that scene showed I was shocked by that. Remember how I cried?

Speaker 1 that was really great right do you feel like uh by the way jasmine do you feel like you were manipulated at all this is uh lawyer jason about to make a very good point and she's like um

Speaker 1 manipulated was like yeah did you feel manipulated by somebody she's she probably feels manipulated right now you're literally trying to manipulate her right now to saying she feels manipulated sir

Speaker 1 She's like, um, and Zach's, by who? Me? Is it me? Did I do the manipulation? And Luke is like, shh, Kristen, just wait your turn. Be quiet.
like, did you just tell me to shush? I told you.

Speaker 1 That was so funny.

Speaker 1 Just stop it, babe. Stop it.

Speaker 1 So Jasmine's like, I don't think I was manipulated. Are you sure? Are you sure you didn't feel manipulated, Jason? Okay.
I don't know a lot about Jason, except I hate him on this show.

Speaker 1 And B, he's probably a terrible lawyer because he's just, he's so ham-fisted with this. This is, this is hard to watch.
She's like, no, I haven't been manipulated. Nope.

Speaker 1 Show me on the doll where you're manipulated.

Speaker 1 Andy's like, you're saying Kristen, Kristen Doty over there manipulated someone? Jason's like, I watched the show.

Speaker 1 You know, it looked to me like Kristen doesn't like Janet. So she's talking to people and she's taking people.
She's talking to people and saying, this is Janet. This is Janet.
This is Janet.

Speaker 1 And Janet was the scapegoat for everyone. I mean, look, you can't even accuse someone of sexual assault anymore.
I mean, this is scapegoat behavior right now.

Speaker 1 And Kristen's like, what show did you watch? Dennis's like, I know. Well, you watched as your husband.
That's the show she watched. Okay.

Speaker 1 And Kristen's like, I swear to God, what the fuck were you watching? Yeah, what were you watching? Janet is literally behind everything on this season.

Speaker 1 The only reason people talked about Janet is because she was spreading shit all season. And actually, for the first portion of the season, Janet was fairly out of harm's way.

Speaker 1 I mean, she entered the season with a beef with Zach, with a beef with Kristen. She settled things with Zach and didn't quite settle things with Kristen.

Speaker 1 And it really went sour for her when

Speaker 1 at that one dinner at Brittany's house where Janet said to Nia, hey,

Speaker 1 if you're having, if Danny is seeing babies on the ceiling, I have someone that you could talk to about that. And then all of a sudden, like World War III broke out.

Speaker 1 But I don't think that Kristen was manipulating. I think Kristen was just reacting to what she felt was an unfair characterization of Danny.
Whether it was or not, that's a whole other issue.

Speaker 1 And who cares? But like, you know, I don't think that Kristen was, I don't think Kristen has manipulation in her. She may try, but I think everyone would see it coming 10 miles away.

Speaker 1 Like she'd be like, hey. Yeah, she's not.
You know what I heard? I know what I heard. You should hate Janet.
Okay, start.

Speaker 1 Like, that would be her manipulation. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 Andy asks Jasmine where her relationship with Janet stands. So she's like, oh, listen, look, you know, I've been friends with her like for so long, like me and Janet, like we're so tight.

Speaker 1 Like we've been friends forever, you know, and it's like with siblings, you know, we're like family because like, you know, when you fight with your family, like how it's like whack. So we do that.

Speaker 1 But like, you know, like, it's what we do. Like, I fight with Zach all the fucking time.

Speaker 1 But like, you know, I was, there was, it was never like a, I hate Janet kind of thing, you know, like that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 It was just like, you're a bitch and you're a Karen, you know, like that's different. But like, there's like layers of stuff because like, you know, like our friendship hasn't been the same.

Speaker 1 Like we just don't talk, you know, like, and it hurts, but like, I mean, I don't hate you. I don't, like, I mean, but like, there's like love there, you know, like, Melissa made a good point.

Speaker 1 She was like, You guys are crying, and like, I was crying in my house, and she was crying in her house.

Speaker 1 And Melissa was like, Oh my God, that means you love each other because you're both crying, you know. So, like, maybe that's good.

Speaker 1 Is that love really? When you're in a friendship where you've both made each other cry multiple times and you're sitting in your ball pit,

Speaker 1 I don't think so. Sitting in your home baby ball pit.
I don't know if that's a friendship.

Speaker 1 Maybe evidence of like a brain injury after bunking that low-hanging hood in your kitchen. So Kristen's like, well, there is love, but there's also shit talking, Jasmine.

Speaker 1 Come on, we have a group talk where you talk, where you shit talk. You do it.
She's like, no, I get that. I get that.
And, you know, I get upset with her.

Speaker 1 And there's things that we need to talk about, like, you know, all the whack stuff she's done. And Kristen's like, so, like, you have to be fair about that.
Still be angry at her. Stop being nice.

Speaker 1 It is kind of funny. Here she is again.
Jasmine refusing to say what she's saying in the group chat to Janet's face.

Speaker 1 She lost, she got pissed off at the beach and she called her the Karen and all of that. But other than that, she won't stand up to her.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, because maybe she is trying to salvage it and maybe she doesn't want to rehash that because maybe the things that she wrote, she was angry about, or maybe Jasmine herself is two-faced.

Speaker 1 And it is

Speaker 1 my

Speaker 1 opinion.

Speaker 1 It could be all of the above, quite frankly, especially when you're in the middle of the day. I mean, at least say it out loud.

Speaker 1 If Kristen's literally telling you on the stage, I mean, you say this and that about Janet, just be honest. And she's like, oh, no, no, but, you know, like, ultimately, I love her.
Well, what was it?

Speaker 1 What are you saying, flip-flopper? Take a step. Well, to be fair, all these people are terrible friends to each other.
I mean, let's not forget this is an outgrowth of Vanderprompros. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 The lazy Susan of Awfulness, where they all were duplicitous about each other and they all got into savage, vicious fights, and then they become friends again, like the next season. True.

Speaker 1 And I'm calling them out each individually as their turn comes up. And now it's Jasmine's turn.

Speaker 1 And right now it's Jasmine's turn to be called a fucking flip-flopper.

Speaker 1 Take a stand. That's flip-floppa.

Speaker 1 Here comes one right now.

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Speaker 1 Jasmine's like, it was just like a, it was just a buildup of whack things. That's all.
And Kristen's like, but you said, Janet, stop acting like herself. She's like, yes.

Speaker 1 So Jason's like, no, don't say that. That's not true.
And she goes, well, and I let a lot of whack things brush under the whack rug.

Speaker 1 I mean, I had the whackest rug of all time, and I still was able to fit more whack things under it because I was brushing so hard with a very whack brush. I'd like to add.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Jasmine's like, I mean, I should have talked to you, but like, I didn't talk to you because, you know, at the time, I just felt like, what's the point? You know, because I had to group chat. So

Speaker 1 Naddy's like, okay, well, who here thinks Janet is a Karen? And I swear to you, everyone in my house raised their hand. I mean, it was just me and Bueller, but still, that was, that was.
How did

Speaker 1 no one raised their hand. I was shocked.
And Chris is like, well, she said Karen energy. She didn't say she is a Karen because as we all know, her name is Janet.

Speaker 1 So you really can't call someone a Karen if they're not really named Karen, right? Is that

Speaker 1 janet's like um go ahead raise your hand i'm on the i'm on hold with the police right now i'm on hold with the police i like to call the manager this reunion okay i do not like the way i like the way i'm being treated yeah so jasmine says i didn't call her it karen it was just it was just the energy she was giving and i think like it was a lot more of like just like exhausted of you like the whole like zach stuff and like the kristen and like just hearing things and it just maybe you maybe like it would have like maybe come back to you and been like hey this is how I feel.

Speaker 1 And I didn't. And, like, I just, I don't know.
I don't even know what I'm really saying. I think I'm just at this point taking random phrases and mashing them together into like a little monologue.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Well, it's clear that you all care about each other. Clear to who? I'm not really sure, but it's on my cards.
So that's what I'm saying. And he says when he wants to move on.

Speaker 1 He's like, let me put a bow on this. You guys are nowhere close to resolution, but I'm going to.
force, I'm going to sort of announce a resolution. You guys care about each other.

Speaker 1 Okay, I'm bored moving on. Janice's like, yeah, I mean, I don't hate you guys.

Speaker 1 Hold on, let me, let me try to cry. Let me get some Jack's tears.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't hate you guys because, like, you're the friends that would come over in like sweatpants and like play games and cook.

Speaker 1 Like, you guys would watch me microwave corn tortillas with cheese and cream while we played Monopoly all the time, you know? And I really miss you guys.

Speaker 1 I really miss you saying, is this supposed to be a chip? Because it's soggy. And then me having to explain to you

Speaker 1 what it really was

Speaker 1 yeah and the relationships it's just it's not like how it used to be it's just more like before it was like crack and now it's like whack and like let's just keep that real like a hundred like you know like maybe like one day i don't know i i don't know jason's like i would hope so and i think we all feel that way so you know and he's like okay back to drug addiction okay uh after a 30-day stint in whatever we're calling it probably a mcdonald's drive-through jax left the um mental health treatment facility with a Big Mac and a large Coke Zero and seemed intent on picking up right where he left off, holding a 99 cent supersized French fry.

Speaker 1 Okay, Matt Jax, the night before you returned home, some of your friends rebranded your bar Brit's bar. You were upset, right? Well, I mean, like, it's not England, so.

Speaker 1 I mean, who wouldn't be upset? I mean, we're in America. I understand why they did it.
But, like, taking my signs and throwing in the garbage was a little much, you know? I'm like, yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, it's a little much throwing a coffee table at your wife and bar stools too, et cetera. And then throwing a picture of her and her dad out in the trash.

Speaker 1 And Nia's like, ah, it's a different situation. It's like, but that wasn't my party or your or your party.
It's like, no, it was Brit's bar.

Speaker 1 And it was whenever me and Jasmine went to talk to Schwartz. And I was telling them everything you had just done.
It wasn't Brit's bar I meant decide. Jack's like, but

Speaker 1 I wasn't there for that. No, you weren't there for any of it.

Speaker 1 Speak to Jax. He's like, Yeah, I don't remember.
I wasn't there. I missed that day.
Yeah, Jax, you were in rehab, dummy.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 Jax is like, Yeah, you know, like, it was just like, it was like really hurtful. It was just like, it was just really hurtful, you know.

Speaker 1 Poor Jax.

Speaker 1 Why are we hurting Jax?

Speaker 1 Andy's like, Jax, you know, they were just trying to prop her up. That's what cocaine is for, Andy.

Speaker 1 No, it's fine. I understand.
I understand. It was all very positive, Jax.
It was very, very positive. And it's like, I understand it was so hurtful.
It was very hurtful.

Speaker 1 Kristen's like, the bar never got to be about her. And she worked so hard.
And she put money into it. More than you.
I put more money into it than you. That's for sure.

Speaker 1 You know what? Even when you were in rehab, I was keeping that place afloat. So Andy's like, Zach,

Speaker 1 you're still here, right?

Speaker 1 Are you allowed into Jax's bar? And Jax is, no.

Speaker 1 And Zach's like, um, it's really funny that Jax has such this animosity towards just me and can forgive everybody else. But, like, what I want to say is, I used to be the biggest Jax apologist.

Speaker 1 I was there every single time when, like, she was broken down, Brittany was broken down, and I had to pick her up.

Speaker 1 And when he would break down and I would hold him while he cried, and for him to turn so hard on her and me just out of nowhere is like so rude.

Speaker 1 I need a painting in my home of Zach cradling Jax as he cries. Jeez.

Speaker 1 I need that video.

Speaker 1 And Jax is like, I mean, it's the stuff you say on social media, you know?

Speaker 1 Like, what do you, what do you do about it?

Speaker 1 What am I supposed to do? And then we see a screenshot of Zach's post. Runnle me thus.
How's it possible you come out of rehab a worse person than when you went in? That was a good one.

Speaker 1 That was a good one, you guys.

Speaker 1 Again, Jax is more upset about a stupid tweet than he is about his own behavior, it seems like.

Speaker 1 So Zach is like, um, okay, yeah, like the things I say in social media, excuse me, are literally not even remotely close to what I would say about you, like right now to your face if Auntie ever asked me a question, which he doesn't.

Speaker 1 Zach.

Speaker 1 Zach's like, I could have been worse, like I am to your face. So that's like being nice on social media.
I can't believe you won't talk to me. Jack's like, I don't care.
You're nobody to me.

Speaker 1 You're nobody. It's like, well, actually, I miss our friendship.

Speaker 1 I just want you to be a better person. It's like, I don't really care what you want.

Speaker 1 And you, and you want to prove that you don't have this control issue, that you can make it better, then work on it with people that are in our, that are, that are, that are in our life, in her life.

Speaker 1 Okay. He's like, no, I agree.
I agree. I agree.
It's like, no. Jax hates Zach.
Mainly, I do believe some of it is, or a large part of it it, is because Zach is gay. I will say that.

Speaker 1 I pick up so much homophobic, like the dismissiveness to Zach, I think, is to me, I'm getting homophobic vibes. I really do.

Speaker 1 And not that Zach is like a saint over there, but

Speaker 1 Jax treats Zach differently than everyone else. So I am like, fuck Jax on a whole nother level.
It's just amazing how many levels that we can say fuck Jax about. So Andy is like...

Speaker 1 Well, Zach's also standing up. And I'm not even saying that's wrong.
I mean, obviously, you know, I think I would agree with that.

Speaker 1 but jax is all you've got zach standing up for brittany all the time so that's enough you know jacks is like fuck that guy yeah but with other people who stand up for britney he jax pretend like at least pretends to be like no no i get it i get it no she does everything in the world no no i was bad i was a bad bad bad husband like you're right you had to defend her because she was in a terrible place he comes up all his bullshit by the one zach he's like i don't care about you you're no one to me there's just kind of like this like high maybe i'm projecting onto it but i i definitely get like high school bully like beaten down on the gay kid.

Speaker 1 So Andy is like, hey, is Frank Dramon allowed in your bar? And they're like, ha ha. Jack's like, who?

Speaker 1 And Zach's like, have you even seen any of the episodes?

Speaker 1 Did you know? Did you know we talked about it on the show? We talked about it on the show. Yeah, he don't even watch the show.

Speaker 1 He doesn't got it. He doesn't watch it.

Speaker 1 He doesn't got it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we've all seen the show. Well, he hadn't, he's the only person here who hadn't watched the show, so he doesn't know what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 And he's like, oh, oh, my burner account? Yeah, is that what you mean? Yeah, that. And Andy's like, who's Frank Dremond?

Speaker 1 And he's like, Frank Dreman from The Naked Gun. And he's like, okay, and who is Frank Dreman? And Jax is like, it's my burner account.
And by the way, this drove me nuts.

Speaker 1 I was really glad that Seth Rogen called this out. Although I think we called it out too.
And especially, I'm sure all of America called it out now because The Naked Gun is literally back in theaters.

Speaker 1 But it's Frank Drebin, you idiot. You didn't even get your burner name right.
I love the game. Frank Drebbin.
He's like, you've never even seen the naked gun. Come on, bro.

Speaker 1 Have you seen the naked gun, Jax?

Speaker 1 I hate that. Naked gun is one of my favorite movies of all time.
And I hate that Jax is even putting his paws on it in a Finsta account. Yeah.
Well,

Speaker 1 listen to some of these tweets. Legend.
Jax is on the show. What man wouldn't feel that way about himself? He's a legend.

Speaker 1 That was hilarious. And then you DM'd me on accident from the account, so it was like proof that it was yours.
I mean, you are so dumb.

Speaker 1 Janet's like, I mean, come on. Don't you know if you have a burner? Like, you just look, right? And he's like, are you still commenting as Frank Dremon? It's like, nah, nah.

Speaker 1 I haven't used that account. I mean, but it's Dremon.
Well, it's Dreman. You know, it's Leslie Nielsen with naked gun.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 Andy's like, oh my God.

Speaker 1 Janet's like, don't butcher his burner name.

Speaker 1 So they're just shitting on him. Okay, Jax.
And Janet makes a comment. Janet makes a comment.
She's like, well, come on, Jax. You should know if it's your burner account, you just read.

Speaker 1 You don't comment. Mm-hmm.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Wait, no, isn't a burner account the point that you comment with it? Because you can't comment under your real name. Yeah, she's saying if you don't want to get caught, you just read.

Speaker 1 So then

Speaker 1 we see a flashback of his eBay listings of selling Britney's Jenny Craig bags, which is so sad. And

Speaker 1 it's sadder than it seemed. And Jax is like, well, you know, I sell a bunch of stuff on eBay.
You know, I sell a bunch of stuff.

Speaker 1 I mean, you can see for the bunion of my toe, like, I work very hard at it in that picture because you see the Jenny Craig bag and then his bunion next to it.

Speaker 1 His, the telltale bunion. It could have been Ashley Darby.
So

Speaker 1 Andy is like, all right, Kristen, Jax decided to come to to Benji's welcome home party, even though he wasn't invited.

Speaker 1 Yeah, pulled a doty, right? Everyone knows. All right, show up places uninvited.
Everyone knows this. So Andy's like, well, you had a conversation with Zach where you said it was your show.

Speaker 1 And we see that amazing scene where Jack says it's my show. And Zach is like, not for the last 30 days.
It wasn't, bitch.

Speaker 1 I mean, wasn't telling Lisa Vanderpump that Vanderpump Rules was your show in season eight kind of the beginning of the end for you. He's like, Yeah, probably whatever.

Speaker 1 So we see that. And then Andy's like, okay, raise your hand if Jax has referred to this show as his show.
And they're all raising their hands.

Speaker 1 And it's like, yeah, we're just all lucky to be here, really.

Speaker 1 We are all, we are, we're just, we're just, we're just lucky. Well, it's true.
I mean, none of this would have happened if I didn't start this up. And Andy's like, is this Jax show, everybody?

Speaker 1 And everyone's like, no.

Speaker 1 I'm like, hey, hey, hey, he he was gone for 30 days and nobody missed him. And Danny's like, well, you shed you fired everyone from season one because you didn't like the edit.

Speaker 1 And then they just, they're just all laughing in Jax's face. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So then historically speaking, it's very difficult to surprise Kristen Dodie. So how'd you do it, guys? I mean, when did you know, Luke, that Kristen was the one?

Speaker 1 And he's like, well, it was a road trip. And like, we had 5,000 miles in the car with dogs.
And it was like hellish.

Speaker 1 And like, you know, we were great, you know, like we agreed on the same books on tape from the cracker barrel that we just ended up, you know, leaving at 7-Elevens all over the country and ended up getting charged $75 each.

Speaker 1 God,

Speaker 1 really expensive for a book on tape. Did you know most cars don't come with tape recorders or tape players anymore? That was pretty disappointing.
God, I really wanted to know.

Speaker 1 Next Danielle Steele had to say.

Speaker 1 All right, and you had not watched Vanderbilt Rules, right? It's like, no, I mean, for the podcast, we recapped season one. And other than that,

Speaker 1 no. Yeah, they were already together at that point.

Speaker 1 And thanks for the color commentary, Brittany. Kristen's like, yeah, he was like, I can't do this anymore.

Speaker 1 And Andy's like, yeah, I bet. Because we all saw you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I bet.

Speaker 1 I like that Luke is a typical husband of a Bravo watcher. He's like, okay, yeah, sure, I'll watch Vanderpump Rules.
And no, I will not watch any of this anymore. I'm done.

Speaker 1 Okay, do you want to get a fucking divorce?

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