#2963 Crappy Hour 8-11-25: Dorit Writes, Heather Reads, Gretchen Flails
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Well, hello.
I'm Ronnie, and that's Ben.
And welcome to to Crappy Hour.
How are you doing today, Ben?
I am great.
Thanks.
How are you doing?
Not great, Ben.
I had some terrible news this week having to do with Tonya Haddocks from Chimp Crazy.
She is going to jail for loving chimps.
So is it even worth going on?
I don't think so.
I can't even believe I'm doing this today.
I've been very upset.
I mean, if you can't abduct a chimp and hide it from the the authorities and lie in a courtroom, what can you do?
Right.
But I love her.
I don't care that she did anything wrong.
I still love Tanya.
I don't want her to go to jail.
The star of HBO's chimp crazy will spend almost four years in federal prison for lying about a chimp named Tonka.
Well,
yeah.
I mean, if that's
what, I mean, what can you do in life anymore, right?
Can you even cross the street without waiting for a light to blink anymore?
For fuck's sake.
So anyway,
this is our weekly or our bi-weekly, I guess, show about all things Bravo, but I had to slip that one in there right at the beginning because I'm really bummed and I don't like it.
Stay strong, Tanya.
Freeze.
Freeze Tanya.
Yeah, freeze Tanya.
You know what?
Don't even freeze her.
She would love that.
Yeah.
I would actually dismiss me on her ass and freeze her until we get laws that are more protective of people who care too much about chimps.
I mean, the woman's addicted to chimps, okay?
Give an addict a break.
I feel like I saw a picture of her, like in jail or a mugshot or something.
And, you know, she didn't have her wig anymore.
They just, she didn't have all her glam.
And I just, I was sad.
I don't like seeing that side of Tanya.
I want to see her sort of 7-Eleven version of Jennifer Coolidge.
So, yeah, it's, it's tough.
It's a tough time right now.
It really is.
The point you just brought up is totally valid and correct.
This is unfair that they're showing her without her glam, without her wigs, without her this, without her that.
They don't give anybody else that disrespect.
They let fucking Karen go to prison looking decent, I think.
I'm assuming.
I mean, you can't do this to her.
Everyone gets to go to prison looking decent, but Tanya is the one that they single out.
They say wig has to come off.
It's not right.
That's not fair.
I agree.
All right.
Well, that's Tanya.
Stay strong over there, Tanya.
If you're watching this from wherever, we love you.
Maybe someone will hide Tanya in the back of a truck and bring her to a motel and bring her to the basement of some place in Missouri.
Girl, you know that's why I'm going to jail.
They're going to find Tanya in my basement.
I'm going to be like, what?
You're the one here.
I don't know what you're talking about.
And then the big twist in episode three is you're going to find her in my basement.
I'm going to be like, Tanya, I brought you some chicken nuggets and some milky days.
Just bring her all the snacks, all the good stuff.
And then you could play games with her where you like run around from like around her cage back and forth.
Well, you know, I've been playing virtual reality games on this MetaQuest 3, which I know it's stupid.
Everybody's going to make fun of me.
I don't even care.
So I'm not going to play games with her, but I will keep her in the basement and she can just watch me do this.
It's a common thing that people do in West Hollywood, just for reference.
Can we give a shout out to Marissa, who is here in the chat?
She says, hello, Ronnie and Ben.
It's my 60th birthday.
Happy birthday, Marissa.
Yes, 60 years old.
Marissa, staying sexy.
Doing it.
Congratulations.
Happy birthday.
Happy birthday, babe.
That's amazing.
No one took your shellac for your face today.
No one did that to you.
So just remember how lucky you are today, Marissa.
You still get to look hot.
Yeah.
You know, this is a great segue into something that I feel like is a very important topic for today.
Speaking of
people not getting to look their best on a public platform, should we talk about Larsa Pippin, who had a picture, a still of her from a morning show go, I would not say viral, viral, but like for Larsa, it was was viral.
It was just her looking, she just looked puffed up, everything looked puffed up, more puffy than usual.
Now, I think for those of us who watch Real House House in Miami, this feels like harf of the course.
Um, we watch these women's faces adjust and sink in and puff up again in real time across the season.
But I think for a lot of people, they hadn't checked in with Larsa for a while and they're like, whoa, what happened with Larsa?
So she was getting a lot of shit about her face.
They were like, oh my God, what'd you do to your face?
What do you do to your face?
As if like all this time time it had been normal.
It's like, wait a second, Larsa.
Can we ask the real question?
What haven't you done to your face?
I mean, girl, staple, shellac, nail gun, you know, chainsaws, the sewing club, like you've done it.
Everything.
Gotta have a hobby.
Gotta have a hobby.
So Larsa has actually come out with a, she came out with a response.
And in the response, it's her face-tuned, but it's a video.
It's on her,
I think on her Instagram.
I'm going to try to play the audio through this so that way we get the full larseness of it all.
So hopefully you can hear it.
I'm going to press play.
Oh, put up the video too.
Could you?
Is it her Instagram?
Oh, yeah.
I think I can.
I think it's important because, you know, it's her face.
The story is about her face.
So I'm looking at it right now and it's.
It's her face.
I mean, I don't know.
I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
And by the way, this is not look shaming somebody.
This is like crazy craft shaming somebody this woman's crafting is her face that's what she likes to do you know some of us buy stupid video games like me to play some of them you know buy cars larsa buys shit for her face she's like the missed potato head of our of our time and that is her right
both on the outside and the inside okay so you can see here
Here we are on X.
You're a real potato on the inside.
She's a real potato.
She's a sprouted potato.
Okay, this is courtesy of Queens of Bravo, and I'm going to press play.
Hopefully you all hear it.
Okay, so
I feel like that photo went viral.
I'm wondering if someone made it look like that because this is what my face looks like, you guys.
I'm on TV, so you know what I look like.
I just shot my reunion a couple of days ago, so you'll see what I look like at my reunion.
I did have PRP.
I did have an allergic reaction to the PRP, which I didn't even know you can have.
So my face is a bit swollen, but it doesn't look like that.
So,
keep on hating, guys.
Okay, so
keep on hating, guys.
I love Larsa saying that her picture went viral, guys.
As you may know, I thought there was a picture of me that broke the internet.
Most popular picture just was trending everywhere.
Everyone couldn't stop talking about it.
Cover of Time magazine.
I feel like, I feel like, like it went viral, like, but I feel like it's my like face like okay so she said she had an allergic reaction to PRP
which is a treatment that uses a concentration of your own blood platelets to remote promote healing in various conditions so you're allergic to your own blood
you know
that's unfortunate
Well, like, you know, like, I didn't want to have to say this, but like, half my blood at this point is hard to even say what it is.
They say there's dolphin in it, like, raccoon, like,
uh, jellyfish, like.
I've had so many treatments, like, it's hard to know what animals in me, like.
Dolphin.
Um, look, I will, I will agree with what she's saying.
I'm very agreeable today.
I do like it.
I can agree with what she's saying.
Like, when she said, um, guys, this is my face.
That's her face.
I really don't know how that picture set anybody else off because that's what she looks like in the season premiere.
So I think maybe in the season premiere, she had just gotten a lot of stuff done.
And so it was still, you know, crazy looking.
And now it's, it's normal crazy looking.
I mean, it's always going to be crazy looking, you know?
It's like trying to make a bounce house not fun.
They're always fun.
Okay.
Bounce houses are fun.
But they are.
And you know what bounce houses?
You know what bounce houses are so good at?
Flying away during a tornado.
I swear, I just watched that this morning.
I was like, I'm going to go back on TikTok.
I'm never on TikTok.
First thing I see is like thunderstorms in Nebraska.
And it was like just lots of footage of bouncy houses, bouncy castles just flying through the sky.
It's like if you're a trampoline and you're a bouncy house, you know, there's one thing that's going to happen in your life.
You're going to get blown away.
Well, bless her heart.
You know, she, she has the right to do whatever the fuck she wants with her face.
So, you know, have fun.
Have fun making, being crazy.
I do remember.
Way back in the day in Miami, but someone in the comments is calling her mama Elsa.
And I remember back in the day when she was like, oh my God, Mama Elsa.
Remember she made those comments like, ooh, that's just so much plastic surgery.
I would never,
you know, that reminds me of when I was younger and I'd be like, oh my God, plastic surgery, Botox.
I would never.
Of course, I'm 25.
I'm going to say that.
You know, you don't need it when you're 25.
It's like when you're already hungry and someone's like, are you hungry?
And you're like, I'm not ordering food.
I don't need to ever eat again.
You do the next day.
You know, eventually you need it again.
So I don't know.
Be careful what you say, young people, because this is, this is what you could be or me with my bruised eyes.
You know, you end up somewhere.
Your eyes are looking fab.
I also want to say that
some people in the comments are saying that Dr.
Jen,
a.k.a.
Jen Armstrong, formerly of Orange County, said that you can't have an allergic reaction to PRP.
Now, I don't know where everyone saw it because I just tried to do some last-minute Googling here and it didn't make any headlines, but maybe she said it on her social media.
I love that Dr.
Jen weighed in and,
you know, said it on the video.
You mean Dr.
Jen?
You couldn't find evidence Dr.
Jen said it or what?
I just couldn't see where everyone was talking about that Dr.
Jen said you can't have an allergic reaction.
Oh, I thought Danny.
You couldn't find the Larsa.
I thought you meant you couldn't find Larsa saying it was an allergic reaction.
I was like, what's her name?
No, no, no.
I started thinking she just said it.
I said it like, I guess it's on.
What is with people who are possible narcissists who do this with their hair?
They grab their hair and they pull it.
It's something we've noticed a lot throughout the years.
And you know, who's bad at it?
Narcissists.
And I've I've noticed that
like Kim Zolsiak, Kim Zolsiak does it all the time.
She's double, like she's double crazy, pulling the hair, like milking the kids.
Well, she's got to pull one for one for Brielle and one for Adriana or Ariana.
One for every dollar I steal from Ariana.
The more you pull your hair, the more dollars come out of her account.
Pulling, pulling, pulling.
Oh, gosh.
Listen, if Marcus can't have a crazy face, then what are we even doing in this world?
You know, you go.
You go, Larsa.
You go off.
Okay.
Next, I think something that's been fun.
We'll move.
Well, first, I guess before we move to some Orange County stuff, have you heard this
Lindsey Hubbard is getting a spin-off?
I have not heard that, and I would love you to tell me about it.
Well, I'm trying to find articles, like real articles.
No offense, Bravo and Cocktails.
It's not like you're not real, but I mean, like, where's Diane Sawyer?
You know what I mean?
I almost always ask that when Lindsey Hubbard comes up.
Where's Diane Sawyer?
I'm not even saying you're not real, but you know, Bravo and Cocktails does do like blind items and, you know, gossip.
It's like someone coming to us for news.
You know, you don't do it.
So Lindsey Hubbard reveals co-parenting struggles with Turner, blah, blah, blah.
Okay.
But where's the spin-off part?
It says Lindsay Hubbard's just going to spin.
Lindsay Hubbard's going to a spin class.
Well, actually, all it says, it's a picture of Lindsay, and it says, Lindsey Hubbard's spin-off starts filming September 1st.
We'll share as I get more information.
And that's all I got.
But that's from Bravo and Cocktails.
So I don't know.
I would imagine it would need to be more people than just Lindsay, right?
Does Lindsay ever really need more people than just Lindsay?
I would love to see Bravo's first ever one woman show, just Lindsay doing things.
Yeah, I was thinking it might be like an AI clickbait article, but I found it in Bravo and Cocktail.
So who knows, you guys, because you know, those AI ones, they're like, Carrie Underwood told the view to shove it.
She's suing them for $50 million.
I believe everything.
You have to Google everything you read now because it's mostly just AI slop.
But maybe Lindsay can fight with AI slop.
I don't know.
But Lindsay does need other people.
AI slop is also what I casually called the summer house.
Can Lindsay spin off the her just calling up Bravo and Cocktails and be like, um, did you hear about Carrie Underwood suing the view for $50 million?
And then Bravo and Cocktails could be like, no, that's not happening, Lindsay.
How dare you?
You're really making me giggle, like a little high-pitched giggle, like a little Keith Billsbury Doughboy giggle over here.
Since you're talking about summer house,
I have another question.
Since you came with me to me with a question, I'm going to answer with a question of my own.
I saw a billboard the other day on Melrose Avenue, and I'm going to send it to my Mac from
my phone.
I would like to know
if this is Lexi Wood.
Okay.
I did like light research, but I was driving.
I didn't want to crash.
And I was like, I'm definitely not going to crash my car on account of Lexi Wood.
So here it comes.
Here comes the image.
Is this Lexi Wood?
Oh, gosh.
it's so little it says princess polly it's a a billboard
princess polly let's see it looks like her the lip i feel like this i mean you can see the lip list
the lip line five miles away so yeah i think it's her although she usually only covers the breast part she she always wears something that's kind of like a bikini top so i don't i mean is polly a a fashion brand or is it lipstick i i i i've never seen it or is it for people who just want to date a lot of people at one time?
Wait a second.
I am just looking at it right now and I'm like,
is that her sister making adjustments?
Oh my God.
How did her sister get up there?
She got up there with a big paintbrush to line her lips.
Wow.
And made a perfect circle.
Wow.
What's your sister doing?
Oh, yeah.
Wow, it's perfect.
Okay, so it is.
I can't do that.
That's so cool.
God, the magic of the video.
Tell me.
It was, I did it in the preview application, and I accidentally did like this thing where men are drawing on her face.
I was trying to do more of a pencil look, and it came out just as a weird circle, but that's okay.
We are, we are accepting.
Oh, anyway.
This is a good one.
Kensley, what is Kensley's name?
Kenley Collins was her name, right?
Kenley Collins.
Yes.
Did you read her stuff?
I just read this coming into this, so I didn't have time to write it down.
Kenley Collins went off.
Uh, this is from Dolphin Girl, who gave us this story.
Uh, thank you for the reminder.
So, Kenley Collins goes off on Andy Cohen on an Instagram post saying that he's worse than Harvey Weinstein.
And when he was on the set of Project Runway, he was always treating all the designers like twinks that he could use and running around and being like, Hey, Twink, which I don't know.
I don't know.
Andy, look, I will say the shocking thing in that is that Andy usually gets like hot stripper types, not really project running designer types.
So I don't know.
But the point is, Kenley is going off and saying, she's got a lot to share from
what, 20 years ago?
I mean, when was that?
How long has that show been on?
She was like season five, right?
It was a long time ago.
It was like OG run.
I'm not going to weigh in either way of whether she is telling the truth or not.
But it is a little surprising to me that when Bethany Frankl was doing the whole reality reckoning thing, that she didn't speak up at that at that moment.
You know, obviously, well, she does bring that up sometimes, she does bring that up.
And she said, Here, let me find the exact quotes.
Um, so blah, blah, blah.
Do you guys really think Harvey Weinstein was the worst one on set?
Andy Cohens was, Andy Cohen was.
Andy Cohen was disgusting, horrible, worst predator with the gays, hopping around the set like, hey, Twinks.
Hey, Twinks.
Hey, Twinks.
That's exactly what we often do.
Hey, Twinks.
I think I've said that before to people.
So
she referenced former Atlanta star Nene Leaks, who claimed that Cohen had created a hostile workplace.
And she, yeah, basically,
basically trying to lend credence to that.
So I don't know.
I don't know what's going on with her, why this is coming out now, but it'll be interesting to see what comes of that.
Yeah, that's
that's uh
that'll be interesting to see.
I'm sorry, because I got distracted because I was looking up Kenley Collins and an article from 2009 came up that said, Jail was really funny, cat attack runway finalist.
Kenley Collins, the cat throwing project runway contestant, needed to help her reach her potential as designer and human being.
Wait, what is the
Kenley Collins threw a cat?
I don't remember her throwing a cat.
And Bumble Bear tells us Kenley was in season five, 2008, so 17 years ago
dolphin says she was insufferable then she's still the same meanwhile she came back for all stars can't stand her I don't think
he would stand for that um but you know I don't know I don't know I would like to hear if he's done stuff like that I don't think going on set and saying he twinks is is sexual abuse but you know obviously I'm gonna hold off my opinion until I hear what she has to say Exactly.
And Marie makes a good point in the comments.
Harvey raped women.
Harvey raped people.
Yes.
Yes.
That's quite different than what anything that Andy Cohen has been accused of so far.
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Bumbleber says, my friend who worked on Top Chef said he was rude when he visited the set, but nothing predatory.
Um, which I think just tracks.
I mean, that's Andy, right?
He's rude on the reunions, right?
Right, right.
I don't know.
I thought he had a reputation for being nice to everybody.
He is nice, but he's, but the
the way he clocks people, one could say is rude.
That's what I meant.
He's not always going to be rosy.
And
I know you weren't contesting us,
but it's just funny.
So by the way, did you get a chance to see the new Project Runway yet?
Nope.
You said it said, so I didn't watch it.
Also, now that things are coming...
The more episodes, how many have there been?
Three?
Three.
I haven't watched the third yet.
It's just too much because now I have to sit down and watch it for like a whole day.
You know, it's too much project runway.
And it's one show every two months.
Yeah.
La Roach is very funny.
La Roche is super funny, but like, yeah.
I read controversy about it today that one of the contestants, the producers told this contestant to show up and drag.
And so he did show up and drag.
But then once he got there, they were like, oh, you're just letting your drag persona take over because your stuff is too much.
And they called one of his designs like a Volva.
Is it a volva a uvula some woman part could be both and then heidi said it looks like bottle opener and so he was all upset that he got tricked into doing drag only to be dragged down if you will wow so that kind of got me interested and then la roache supposedly said i'm mad that i even had to come here to look at that fashion you guys are wasting my time i could have been at lunch
Yeah, the vibe, it actually,
I would not, I'm not surprised that he would say that.
It does feel like the vibe is that they're kind of trying to be a little bit more like drag race on the show, where it's like joke, like, I don't know, it's like just trying to be jokey.
I don't know.
I just don't like it anymore.
Debbie Antine says everybody has a uvula.
Okay, well noted, you know, God, I'm learning a lot today.
Don't tell people high twinks.
And I have a uvula.
Yeah.
I'm writing that in my bed.
Charlie Brown is the Charlie Brown thing.
I have a uvula.
I would like to talk about something.
I think that'll own a t-shirt.
This is, I, I'm, I'm bringing, I have,
we all have a UV line.
I'm bringing up something here.
This is a minor story, but it's one that I have just been so fascinated with for the past like two months.
The ongoing tale of the crypto kidnappers in New York City.
So I guess New York Magazine came out with a big article about it, which I tried to read, but it was behind a paywall.
However, luckily,
the Everybody's Business But Mind podcast.
Love her.
yes kara yes love cara um she took a screenshot of the most important part of the article which is charlie's involvement from next gen new york city so um it's this very small part of the of the article but from well we i i can't i can even just read it out loud which is that the the guys the the the villains of the story the guys who who
For those of you don't know,
abducted this guy and tortured him because they wanted access to his Bitcoin account.
And this guy would not give it up.
And so they held him in this townhouse in New York City for like two or three weeks, torturing him.
And in the meantime, these assholes also were like throwing parties.
And so they had an assistant, this guy named Morgan O'Connor, who was a quote-unquote, a well-connected club rat and former model known for a striking look, white with waist-length dreadlocks.
And then
this guy, Morgan O'Connor, seemed to know every bottle girl in the city.
And he soon brought on Charlie Zakur, a handsome 30-year-old starring on Bravo's Real Housewives spin-off next gen.
And I'm sure that Charlie loves being referred to as someone on a real housewives spin-off.
So
we learned that they grew up together on the Manhattan Party Circuit.
They both dated Lindsay Lohan.
And what they basically, their job was to find young women to party with, to bring young women to this townhome for the parties with these abductors.
And so Charlie would like, he told a friend, they're going to drop stupid money, like life-changing amounts of money.
And I think we all know, we can totally imagine Charlie saying that.
And he goes, they're ready to spend.
And there was an unusual source to help stock the parties at 38 Prince, the Soho location of Brandy Melville on nearby Broadway.
And so basically the article then goes on to say that the clothing shop is known for employing attractive young women, many of them part-time models.
Zakor had dated several of them over the years and often brought them and their friends to clubs and after parties.
And sometimes he'd drop by the store just to hang out, leading one employee to ask herself, what's an unknown doing at brandy?
So that's the end of his involvement in the article.
But I just love that he was lingering in this store and all the young sales girls, the hot models were like, who is this old guy creeping out over here?
So that's.
So wait, Charlie was like creeping in the store trying to get girls to come to this crypto townhouse.
Yeah, for parties.
And he would go in there and creep out.
And they were like, who is this unknown?
And Kara actually writes a great,
like uncle?
Yeah.
That's why my nieces call me unknown.
Well, I'm just going to say that.
He's literally an uncle.
Yeah.
Kara says, obsessed with this New York City crypto torture story, more obsessed with Charlie from NextGen New York City, essentially recruiting teen employees from Brandy Melville to the house, only to be referred to as an unknown by them, being confused why he hung out in the store so often.
It's so good.
Oh, Charles.
So that's the update on that.
There's not much to say about it, but for those who wanted further texture on his whole involvement in that scandal,
that is the deal so far.
Well, you want to talk about a real unknown?
Yes.
Real unk.
Carl Radke has revealed.
Guys, hold yourselves.
Carl Radke has revealed.
to us weekly news my middle name is Carl we always for whatever reason, as a family, went by our middle names.
So, my brother even went by his middle name.
But on my ID and passport, my first name, wafer, it's William.
It's crazy, right?
It's an obscure name
that only people who live in a certain neighborhood of Pittsburgh would really get.
It's called title changer.
You know, it's like, it's a high-shame name.
So
it's William with a soft A.
Carl is wearing a sleeveless tennis sweater
with no shirt under it in this article, and he is gearing up for the official opening of Soft Bar and Cafe.
Could have called it Billy Carl.
Just
and I didn't get the space till January.
We didn't start building till March.
And
yeah, so guess what?
From the time I've signed it to the time we're be opening, soft circled,
August 27th is going to be a grand opening.
So wow, wow, August 27th, that's next week.
Two weeks.
Two weeks.
Yes.
What?
Two weeks.
Wow, that's almost perfectly aligned with Labor Day weekend, famously the season finale of Summerhouse.
By the way, she makes it.
By the way, I just want to say we have a great bot in the chat.
This is Gloria who says, My name is Gloria Pouchfonte.
I'm America's favorite gay aunt.
I'm here to remind you to clean your foreskin.
When was the last time you cleaned out your foreskin cheese?
It's a great question that she asks.
Thank you for being here, Gloria.
Gloria, if you get foreskin cheese, you've waited too long.
You know what I mean?
You need to be better.
You need to be a little bit more on top of it with your tips.
If there's already cheese, you missed something, Gloria.
You're late.
Wait, she says, I'm not a bot queen.
I'm a real gay lesbian.
Okay.
Very, very nice.
Right.
Thank you.
I don't know.
Does that make it better?
Either way, you'll get better at your foreskin checks because you're behind.
Yes.
So, yeah, that's the big big Carl news.
I know everybody was dying to hear it, so I had to share.
It's actually so funny because
I was walking to the gym today and I walked by a restaurant that I feel like is going to close very soon.
And I was like, I'm surprised this restaurant has stayed open for so long.
And I was like, oh, I bet when it closes, I wonder if they have...
A good guy clause.
I literally was like thinking, I was saying good guy claws to myself in Carl voice.
Oh, good guy claws.
Good guy claws.
Was it what restaurant was it?
It's a place called Mr.
T's.
And I really want to go there.
I still haven't been.
I'm contributing to T.
A.
S.
It's like Mr.
T, like, Mr.
T.
I think it's called Mr.
T.
It's like Mr.
T Apostrophe S.
It's like Mr.
T.
Oh, I thought it was like a cute Bobo place, like Mr.
T's.
I think it's called Mr.
T's.
Yeah, it's called Mr.
T.
Oh, I'm sorry.
It's just called Mr.
T.
Mr.
T.
Well, I think that that's kind of an awkward name for a place.
Maybe that's why they're closing.
I mean, shut up, fool.
From the 18, you know, Mr.
T.
He was very tough.
You're not always in a Mr.
T mood for lunch.
I heard that it's like a hotspot in Paris, but it's just sort of like empty in L.A.
And I heard that it's like Beyoncé's favorite restaurants.
They opened it up because I think Beyonce allegedly has an office across the street.
That's what the rumor is.
Word on the street is that that's why Mr.
T is there.
But is Beyonce there?
Because they did a a lot of work to try to get Beyonce.
As far as I can tell, I don't think Beyonce is going to be in there.
Yeah, I doubt it.
So
I will go support Mr.
T.
But I like that Beyonce's supportive of Mr.
T, like probably because she likes Mr.
T.
It just reminds her of, you know, her childhood.
Yeah.
So here's
somebody who
here's a Mrs.
T that I don't support.
Tamara Judge.
Okay, Tamara Judge's daughter, Sophia Barney, wants to be on Next Gen NYC.
No.
Okay.
You know what?
You're not alone.
Here's the thing.
You're not welcome here.
You know, there's one small issue, which is that as far as we can see, you're in Orange County.
And so, like, I know we made like an exception for Gia, but I don't know if we can, I don't know if we can make the umbrella of New York City go all the way to Orange County, unless she has moved to New York City, in which case we can reevaluate.
I think it's probably going to be a no, though, anyway.
Yeah, it's going to be a no.
Yeah, I mean, she seems nice and everything, but I don't want guest spots from tamara you know that's why i say no and also you're not the first person to write a song about a cannibal do you know how many cannibal songs we were sent after your episode and we were talking about songs about cannibals a lot okay yeah write bad dark songs write one about like foreskin checking you know like foreskin checking
before the cheese forms gloria There's a lot of people talking about Laura Brannigan in the comments.
I think because Gloria is here.
So people are referencing the song Gloria.
so maybe sophia could do a cool remix of a lower branigan song and then we can talk but i actually kind of i kind of want for next-gen new york city i kind of want the
the i kind of want a cast cut off i i don't want to bring in any more kids from the suburban shows i think i just want rich kids from new york city to be added on to the show so purely just like i just i just I don't know if I want someone from Orange County infiltrating the show.
It should really be people from the Upper East Side would make me happy or
the Upper West side.
I'll accept them too.
I think just leave it alone.
That's what I say.
Yeah.
It's good.
It's too late.
I don't want you all flying your kids in for screen tests.
It's already done.
It's already cast.
It's already done.
I think anybody else they cast, they should just cast people who are already in New York naturally.
Also, I have to say, I love this like gold rush that's happening with Bravo stars trying to whore out their children to get on to like next-gen New York City or like a rumored next-gen Los Angeles.
The way they are all adding to the rumor mill, because you know they're the ones like telling the reporters, oh, I heard that like my child is going to be in talks.
You know, Kyle Richards fully leaked.
Actually, Kyle, all the daughters on the Kyle side, they've all leaked it.
probably.
Oh, well, you know, Sophie, Sophia, or like Portia or Farah, they're all in talks about me in next-gen New York City.
You know, like Kyle is going to be coming in wearing a backpack.
Like, I heard that like I was in Toxic and next-gen New York City.
Like, stop it.
Everyone is rushing so hard to be on this show.
It is hilarious to me.
Yeah, guys, you didn't, everybody thought it was going to be trash.
You all dissed it.
I'm sure everybody wanting to be on the show is like, that show's going to fail.
And now it's successful.
And you all want a piece of the pie.
I'm sorry.
The pie is served.
It's already been served.
You don't get to be a piece of the pie.
You're not in the pie.
You're not in the pie.
It like, it like makes me feel like they're like the, the world is about to explode and there's a spaceship and there's limited like seating on the spaceship and they're all trying to get their kids on the spaceship to start a new civilization.
Like, take my child.
Please put it on next-gen New York City.
Yeah, that was a good movie.
Was that the end of the world?
Now had to all get their kids on the
rich.
Yeah, all the rich kids got on, or all the rich people got on there or whatever.
And then all the poor people were like, no.
But I think the rich people all died too.
Usually,
so let's see.
We did some Carl stuff.
I mean, I guess there's this Gretchen likes homophobic, transphobic posts.
I went off on that on the Real Housewives of Orange County.
You know what?
I I don't need to fill myself with rage today.
Gretchen, you still suck as much as you did this past weekend or this past last week in our recap.
Okay.
Shame on you.
So I'll just stop there.
If anyone wants to hear stuff about that, then go check out that recap because there's better stuff to talk about in Orange County.
Like Heather Dew, Heather DeBro, Heather Dubro.
We're going to have to create a jingle like an under-the-sea jingle for Clawhands arriving.
Heather Dubrow news.
A freak doe.
Afraid though.
A freak doe.
Alfredo.
Everything's better where it is wetter because you can tell Alfredo, wipe up the wetness.
So stupid.
Well, first in the news, Heather and Terry sold their mansion that they've been trying to sell on the Shah, and they sold it for $16 million.
They had originally
put it up for sale at $25 million.
So that's crazy.
That's a crazy low amount to be selling it.
But, you know, we all know they're full of shit anyway, and they would never would have gotten that.
So I don't know if they lost money, if they made money, but you know what?
This is why I trust the best realtors on the market.
Josh and Josh.
Heather Gibral, bringing people together.
I am Heather Gibral.
I am fun and relatable, and I am always very...
hilarious.
I am a happy person.
Ha ha.
And then we move on to Gina.
So Gina Kirschenheider.
Never get used to that.
Gina Kirschen Schneider.
Gina Kirchenschneider.
Kirschen Schneider.
I'm going to need, I just need her to have a stage name at this point.
I just need to.
Why is Carl changing his name from William, but you can't change it from Kirchen Schneider?
Kirschenheider.
Yeah, exactly.
Can we
change it to Carl?
Gina Williams.
Gina Carl.
Gina Carl Williams.
So Gina Kerscheniter confirms Heather DeBrow leaked Katie's custody info ahead of Orange County Reunion.
This was on Taste of Reality.
But I'm actually not reporting on that
reporting.
What I am reporting on is Heather DeBrow's response to that.
Okay, well, hold on.
So basically, what happened was Gina goes on, Watch What Happens Live.
And the question was, Gina,
isn't it a little bit hypocritical that you guys are mad at Katie and calling the bloggers when, you know,
when Emily researched Katie's, you know, what do you call it, custody battle and put that on the reunion.
Yes, it is hypocritical, Andy.
There's the real answer.
But Gina was like, no, because you know what?
Like a lot of people don't know this.
But it wasn't even actually Emily who did the research.
It was Debrow.
So she accused Heather of being the one to do the research on Katie Janella's children or lack thereof at the custody of
Alfredo, Alfred A.
Doe, my turn.
My turn.
Let's set the record straight.
First of all, I do not research anyone.
That is not my MO.
That stands for...
Well, I won't even say what it does, Gina.
I do not have time or interest to try to dig something up on other people.
I am a working actress who has many auditions to go to, Gina.
I don't have time to do this.
For the reunion last year, there was a lot of stories in the media circling about Katie, and some of us were sending them to each other because it was overwhelming and crazy.
And I did, in fact, send the article about Katie's custody to Emily.
I did nothing more than that, and I would never have brought this up at the reunion.
I actually went to Katie during the reunion.
I actually went up to her during the commercial break, and I said to her, this must have been a very difficult time for you.
I'm sorry you had to go through that.
I never would have brought this up.
You know, I never would have brought this up.
Kids and careers are off limits.
For all of you out there making Wendy Malik jokes, off limits.
Not really sure why Gina chose to include me in her response on the show or make it sound salacious, but it was not.
And I will not adjudicate this again.
No more adjudications.
No more discussions.
It's over.
Well, look, first of all, what Heather is saying is correct.
The stories about Katie and her custody and all that dirty mud that was slung was in the news before the reunion.
I'd read all that stuff before.
So that stuff was out.
The point is, You guys planned to bring it up and embarrass the woman.
And Emily for sure did.
And for sure that for Emily to be like, whoa, whatever, it was in the boss.
You brought that shit on national TV for millions of people.
And Gina, you sticking up for her makes you just as fucking gross.
And we all know Heather had something to do with it too, because she's passing the info along to her little minions before the reunion because she knows that they're going to carry her water.
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Here's my feeling on this.
I think, you know, Heather basically said, look, we were, we were texting, we were being messy.
I found, I did like, I did a Google search.
I found this link.
I sent it to the group.
I think like amongst a group of friends being messy about like someone, like I'm not out of the context of like a reunion, it's like, okay, they're sending links.
I, what I don't like is that Gina is actually trying to like abdicate any responsibility.
Like, oh, I didn't do anything.
It was Heather who did it.
It's like, so Gina to do that.
Like, Gina, like, Heather's like, yeah, I was messy.
I did it.
You know, I didn't have like an investigator.
I wasn't searching and I wasn't, you know, I didn't call a bow deedle, you know, but Gina's like, it was Heather.
And I just feel like this is what Gina always does.
She casts stones and then she hides away and then she turns on, she sells out her people.
She sells out friends.
She's being, she's having a keykey with some friends and being shady or worse.
And she still sells, she's always selling people out every single season, every single interaction.
Yeah, you know, people, there's always a discussion every season about Emily and Gina, right?
Because they suck.
And by the way, I saw something today that said Emily has been on.
Emily and Gina have been on OC longer than Dorinda was on Real Households of New York.
Let that sit in.
Isn't that crazy?
So anyway, there's always a discussion every season because the audience is like, get rid of these two idiots.
Why are these two boring idiots on tv why do we have to watch them every single season the show is tanking and you just keep them it's like you change everybody around them it makes no sense there's this discussion every season that they're on right and sometimes people are like why don't you like them just because they're not rich gina's not rich no it has nothing to do with her not being rich it does for me yes it does well for me i don't care about that because i don't think any of them are rich i think all of them are really gina poor but they pretend to be rich i think at least 90 of them are that poor i like the pretending that's I'm saying.
Well, that part doesn't bother me personally as much as this.
She's a bad friend.
Ultimately, this show is about friends.
Gina is a friend to nobody and Emily is a friend to nobody.
They're terrible people.
They're terrible humans.
They're terrible friends.
And that's it.
I don't want to watch that.
I mean, ultimately, the show, you know, the show's like bickering and stuff like that.
But I think what keeps it coming, what keeps me coming back is they're...
funny women who generally are good friends to each other.
It's the fights are usually like, you weren't a good friend to me because X, Y, Z.
Okay, well, how can I be a better friend?
That's ultimately what the show is, right?
At least to me.
So you guys suck.
You suck at your jobs.
You're not funny.
You're not fun and you're terrible friends.
Go away.
Here's the thing.
You can be a terrible friend
or you can be,
no, let me say it this way.
You can either be a good friend, but boring.
or entertaining, but a terrible friend.
But what you can't be is a terrible friend who's boring.
And that's what they are.
They're a terrible friend who's boring.
And I feel like every season we, at a certain point, we feel, we feel bad because I think like we actually,
in a weird way, I feel like we do sort of root for these people on a certain level.
Because we actually are all fans of these shows.
We like them.
We want them to work.
We want these shows to succeed.
And sometimes I get to a place where I'm like, you know, like, I shit on Gina so much, but she's actually like doing the work.
The story's moving forward because of her.
She's stirring the pot.
Emily's stirring the pot.
She's obnoxious, but she's doing the thing.
And I kind of like, you'll hear me do it on the podcast every single season.
And I sort of like eat my words a little bit and say, you know, I get them all so on shit.
But, you know, the truth is they're actually like, they're working for their money.
I do the whole thing.
But you know what?
I'm sick of doing the whole thing.
They're boring and they suck.
Yeah, they suck.
No excuses.
Get rid of them.
So tired of those two.
Big shocking news.
This has nothing to do with Gina.
Thank God.
But
Teresa Judice admits marriage with Louis Rullis hasn't been easy amid rumors about financial stress.
I don't even need to read that.
I don't even need to read that one.
My response to that is, duh, no shit, Teresa.
Okay, Teresa's the person you literally hold back at the crosswalk and say, don't, a bus is coming.
And she walks out and get hits by the bus.
Am I supposed to stop and pick you up?
No, stupid.
I tried to hold you back.
I'm busy.
I have to get to work.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No shit.
Your relationship with Louis.
nothing that Louis ever does is easy.
Why do you think he has five veins popping out of his forehead at all times?
Why do you think he looks like a tomato?
This is why, because everything is stressful.
Did you see the letter that
I think Gia or something?
Joe, Joe Judias was, I don't have any of this in front of me.
I just remember reading it this week.
Joe Judas was writing a letter to Trump or tweeting Trump or something, being like, hey, you know, it's time for another chance.
You know what?
Like, who cares?
Like, let me back.
Let me back kiss.
Like, I'm a good Republican.
You know, like, I'm a good Trumper, whatever.
Let me back.
And And so the family has been like kind of fighting on social media because that's the only place that Donald really pays attention to.
They know they'll get his attention there.
And so they're kind of begging him on socials to let Joe back.
And then today, Joe had a post, shirtless, which nobody needs that.
And it said, like, oh my God, what another day is like waking up in beautiful Italy.
Make up your mind.
What do you want?
What do you mean?
You need to be consistent in your social media begging, sir.
Also, like, why did it take you so long to realize this is what you're supposed to do?
When I, I think I said it or I was predicting it a long time ago that Joe Judice is going to appeal for a pardon, like in the first Trump term, because Teresa was on Apprentice.
She already had a relationship with Trump.
So I thought this was already going to happen.
I'm surprised it took him this long.
But, and I think he will get a pardon, by the way.
I think, I think it's going to work out for him.
I'm just going to say, because it seems like any reality star.
who's pledged allegiance can get pardoned at this point.
Yeah.
Well, speaking of parasites, Brandi Glanville has named her facial parasite.
God damn it, I can't read the site.
The site is cancer.
Every time I open it, it's what is this, page six?
Page six, do better.
I need a full page AT ⁇ T ad that I can't get past to read your fucking article.
You assholes.
Fucking page six.
Page six, you're better than this, right?
So she named her facial parasite Caroline after Caroline Manzo.
I really thought she did something hilarious there.
But then she topped herself by putting nair all over her face to catch the worm and to catch Caroline and burnt her face off.
Wasn't Terry DeBrow supposed to fix this?
Wasn't he like better?
Come into my office and I'll figure out how to deal with it.
Like, what happened to that?
What happened to the botched guys going to town here?
To this, I say, can Terry DeBrow fix himself before he starts working on anybody else?
It's like getting your car worked on by someone who drives a bike.
Okay.
It's ridiculous.
It's like getting hair advice from me.
Yeah, poor poor Brandy Glanville.
With, I saw the pictures, and she has burned herself, and her face is now orange.
I mean, this is really,
I don't really wish this on anyone, this parasite situation that she's going through, but it does feel like a, like we're watching like an allegory or we're watching, like there should be something that says, like, from the creators of the substance comes the parasite.
Like, this is, it feels like this is some sort of commentary on modern beauty, even though actually she got the parasite not from anything pertaining to beauty treatments.
It's just there's something about well no one knows where she got the parasite and uh no one knows what the hell's going on with her vicky said that she got the same parasite in thailand or whenever they shot that real
they shot it in thailand right she said she got that well no it was in thailand where did they shoot that girls trip that didn't air morocco
Okay, so then Vicki was...
Well, Vicki wasn't in Thailand.
I'm getting all my girls' trips mixed up.
Vicki said that she was there.
She was somewhere and she got a parasite too.
Anyway, I don't know.
Yeah.
I don't know.
But I feel bad for the parasite being stuck in Brampy's face.
I mean, God, couldn't you aim up?
I know.
You would think at this point.
But yeah, I guess that saga is still going on.
And I'm surprised no one can fix it yet.
But I guess that's the way it goes.
Another thing that I think is amusing, you know, we were just talking about
Teresa and
cast has been announced for the new season of Special Forces,
a show that no one I know actually ever watches.
I think it seems to exist solely for
casting notice, like casting headlines to be like, This is the cast.
And everyone's like, oh my God, what a funny cast.
And then, like, people, I think the only thing that ever came out of that show over three seasons was like JoJo Seba carrying Tom Sandoval.
But the new cast from Bravo, the people who are going to be on this, we've got Brittany Cartwright, Teresa Judice,
and even Marcel at least.
I don't know if there's any others on there.
Jussie Smollett.
Right.
I meant just from Bravo, but Jussie Smollett, that is a very funny casting.
That's a choice.
Oh, my goodness.
That's a choice.
Oh, Chanel.
Like, please cast somebody on this show that will make me look credible.
They're like, oh, we're having trouble.
Not going to get Teresa this time.
And they found him.
They finally found him.
Is Chanel?
oh never mind Chanel Iman not Chanel Ion I was like wait a second yeah so it looks like that's our bravo representation I can't even imagine Teresa in boot camp I'm sort of excited to see that that I thought we was making we was learning to make boots
no you can we rename this show I get a little triggered when you say camps okay
Okay, my favorite piece of news, and we'll end with this before we start talking to you guys,
is that Doreet Kimsley has a memoir on the way.
The real housewives of Beverly Hill star chronicled my story behind my curated image seen on screen in Unburdened, moving on, letting go, and putting it all on the tablet.
So she's written a book called Unburdened.
Please, please make us stop.
Doreen's so full of shit.
Ain't nothing in here is going to be true.
And I cannot wait to to make you read it for some podcast.
So you can tell me.
Oh, my goodness.
It's going to be the best book since Sheenochets.
It'll be so self-serving and hilarious.
It'll be like people I have hooked up with.
Boy, George, Prince Harry, Prince William, just to name a few.
Italy, in general, the language of Italia.
I've hooked up with both Air and Mez.
I hope every chapter is like
French.
Well, I've picked up my French accent because, you know, she's got so many accents because she's a child of the world.
So it would be fun to hear her like describe how she picked up each individual one.
Brings together a perfect, perfect, coil accent.
It will be a great book because it's going to be, first of all, largely fictional and it is going to be very globetropic.
You know, every chapter is going to be some fantastical story about how she was, was, you know, in, you know, like Hong Kong, abducted by a triad, and she was like ransomed.
And all she was trying to do was get to the factory where she was manufacturing Beverly Beach.
You know, like everything is going to be some amazing story.
I think it's going to...
It could get optioned and become a blockbuster movie.
I'm going to say
blockbuster.
There are pictures of her.
There are pictures of her walking with Hermes bags.
I don't know if she supplied these pictures, but I saw them all over Twitter last night.
And I didn't include them on on our document because I just didn't, I couldn't tell if these were pictures she had posted on her Instagram that people were ramming or not.
But it's her shopping with like two Hermes bags.
And it's like, you know, look at Darit having a big shopping day.
Look at all the stuff from Hermes that she's buying.
But then people zoomed in and you see that next to one of the Hermes bags is like some foot artifact.
So it was like copied and pasted, like the Hermes bag was copied and pasted.
So great.
So I didn't want, I was like, I don't want to put this all on Dorit just yet because I don't know the context of the larger picture.
But whoever did this picture did some great sloppy photo.
Funny, was that on Reddit?
Because I saw a Reddit post about somebody saying these are, these are fake, you know, or that she had been, they were bags that she had already used.
And you could tell because they were crinkled up at the bottom and stuff.
And she's, it's just like all her target stuff that she puts in Hermes bags.
Yeah, people were talking about that too.
But then someone zoomed in and you could see also that like it wasn't even like bags.
they weren't even real bags, I think.
I don't know.
I just well, I was, um, you know, I have a little dyslexia left over from being a kid.
And so sometimes letters will jumble themselves up to me.
And when I read the title of her book, I thought it said unearned.
And I read the whole article thinking it said unearned.
And I was like, finally, a book title that makes sense on this channel, you know?
But it didn't.
It said unburdened.
I think my dyslexia had it correct, honestly.
Yeah, there's something that's very, the, you know, what's funny is like calling your book unburdened.
What's so funny about it to me is there's nothing about the word unburdened that is fat shamey,
but there's something like burden implies connotes heaviness.
So, like, there's something about calling your book unburdened, which feels like a dig at PK being heavy.
I don't know.
Like, I feel like there's like a subtle thing there, right?
Did you pick up on that vibe, or is that just me?
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