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Speaker 1 I'm Ben Mandelker, and joining me today is the glorious and beautiful Ronnie Carole. Hi.
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Speaker 1 Gretchen Rossi, like super Fox News hair day because she really took it to the next level. She is like ready to take over Fox Friends with that hair.
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Speaker 1 God bless that white, platinum, white anchor lady hair that she's got. Today we are talking Orange County.

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Speaker 1 You know, it's fitting that Gretchen showed up in her extreme Fox News hair because she is finally getting some pushback for her social media posting this week.

Speaker 1 Have you been reading any of the Gretchen news?

Speaker 1 Shockingly, I have a dick. What a dick.
What happened now? What did our, I was just about to say, I'm really enjoying Gretchen this season.

Speaker 1 I was just about to do a whole thing of like, you know what, I'm really happy that Gretchen's back. I think she's doing a great job.
But now what? Before. Well, that's why I'm opening with this.

Speaker 1 So you don't fall into too deep of a hole. Because I watched

Speaker 1 Ben's going to come in and fangirl over this chick. Well, one of them is...
She and Jen Pedrante made some like video doing Asian voices and making squinty eyes and stuff. Katie Janella went on,

Speaker 1 Katie Janella went on virtual reality with the boys and was talking about that not being cool.

Speaker 1 And then right after that, someone finally went through Gretchen's social media, which, you know, I've mentioned a couple of times is horrifying i was not glad she was coming back at all because listen i know that there are people from all over the political spectrum here i'm not here to get into like trumpy this trumpy that you know not that i've never been guilty of that but um

Speaker 1 you know it's not only that it's not only a political thing like she's got transphobic she's just a transphobic homo homose

Speaker 1 homosex homosexual, homophobic racist. Someone from Orange County is, someone from Orange Orange County has these qualities.

Speaker 1 Yes, but at least, you know, as they always say to us, keep it in your bedroom. I don't need to hear it.
Like, if that's your thought, then you do that at home. I don't need to hear this shit.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't need you. So here's some screenshots that she's been liking.
This was compiled, I believe, by Bambi4183 over on the Insta. But here's just an example.

Speaker 1 When you open the door to homosexuality, you open the door to pedophilia. You'll never win by normalizing perversion.
That's a Gretchen likes.

Speaker 1 Gretchen?

Speaker 1 Gretchen Rossi? Yes. Gretchen

Speaker 1 is. She didn't write these.
She's liking these. Then another one says,

Speaker 1 sin is a slippery slope. If you think it's bad now, give it a couple of years.
If you want to save the kids, start by calling homosexuality what it is.

Speaker 1 And then this

Speaker 1 mixed with her racist ass post that she actually made. Fuck off, Gretchen.
Like, seriously, go back to the fucking rock you crawled crawled under. What a horrible, horrible, disgusting human being.

Speaker 1 And also keep kicking Tamara's ass while you're here. I mean, if you're going to be here, keep doing what you're doing, but also fuck off.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Gretchen, who

Speaker 1 probably

Speaker 1 has like several gay men on her team, you know,

Speaker 1 forming that. Megan Kelly tribute on her head is like still going to like all these these homophobic things.
That's just I mean, I'm always, I'm always so shocked when homophobes go on to Bravo.

Speaker 1 I'm like, do you know, like,

Speaker 1 like, it's either like you are biting the hand that feeds you or you're selling out your own views, you know, just to get some money. So either way, you're a shitty person.

Speaker 1 I mean, what, I guess, well, also

Speaker 1 going off on quote unquote perversion. So I guess, you know, the only kind of perversion you like is young chicks selling themselves to old rich men.
Like, that's okay with you. Fuck off, Gretchen.

Speaker 1 Get off your fucking, your, your fucking toadstool, okay? Sick of hearing you.

Speaker 1 Keep kicking Tamara's ass. You're doing great.

Speaker 1 So we open with,

Speaker 1 yeah, start this Friday with a nice, strong conversation. I was like, okay, great.
Here we,

Speaker 1 here we go. Here we go.
We're going to have a...

Speaker 1 Fun episode. So we start with Gina.

Speaker 1 Listen, you can say fuck off to somebody and still have a fun episode. But, you know, I felt like it was an episode.
No, she needs to fuck off.

Speaker 1 I don't want to wait. She needs to fuck all the way off.

Speaker 1 Yeah. She needs to fuck all the way off.
There's no room for like that sort of hateful language and

Speaker 1 thought process, I think, in 2025 in general. And if you are liking those posts, you can fuck off too.
How about that? So Gina is saying,

Speaker 1 oh my God,

Speaker 1 can you put Clean Latifah in the garage? She's asking

Speaker 1 Trevor, Travis, whatever his name is, to do this because she's getting ready for a big party and she has a roomba that she's named Queen Latifah.

Speaker 1 And she's like, that's not the vibe that I'm going for.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're not the vibe I'm going for. I'm really going for more of a like, you know, cardboard box type, like the furniture is some chairs.
You know what I'm saying? Get Queen Latifah out of here.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So then Shannon's in glam getting ready. And she's like, well, I will be regifting a candle that Earl de Pearl gave me.
Apparently, it is the scent of a lake, which I

Speaker 1 am still refusing to let into my life. So I'm going to give Gina a lake, a lake candle.
And apparently it will automatically extinguish itself if a hurricane is coming for it.

Speaker 1 It's got an adorable name. It is called You Didn't Comfort Me When a Hurricane Was Ravaging My Home.

Speaker 1 Gina's gonna love this.

Speaker 1 It smells like not vegetables.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 then Ryan, we go over to Jen's house and Ryan's coming down, hobbling down the staircase because his knee and everything. And he's showing Jen a dress.
And then we see Gretchen and Glam.

Speaker 1 She's like, oh, well, my friend is going to be there, Tamara.

Speaker 1 And Slay's like, are you talking about Captain Evil? Gosh, I don't know why his stand-up career never really took off. Because he is crazy, isn't it?

Speaker 1 God, how is he not still a hilarious DJ on the radio? How?

Speaker 1 So back to Gina. She's like, oh my God, it looks so good in here.
Oh, ding-dong, ding-dong, ding-dong. That's definitely Emily because she likes ding-dongs a lot.
We're like hilarious like that.

Speaker 1 We're like little seen Apple of ding-dongs.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 Emily waxing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because she is like hitting, she's doing that thing where she's like ding-donging a lot because like that's Emily's humor is that like her joke style is that she acts like a

Speaker 1 six-year-old, right? Like she has, she has food dangling out of her mouth. She has to draw a bell lots of times.
Like, isn't this funny? Regressive, regressive.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, she's there. And people start showing up.
And everyone's just so impressed that Gina has more than 300 square feet now. They're like, oh, wow.
Look at all this.

Speaker 1 You have an open concept, but not because it was forced that way.

Speaker 1 There's like, it's actually, it's an open concept that's not just four walls. It's not like a Monica open concept.

Speaker 1 It's like you actually have multiple rooms where you could have had walls and you don't have walls, as opposed to all the furniture in just one small room.

Speaker 1 As opposed to a studio apartment. It's like, wow, what an open concept.
And it's not a park.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 This is, I love that this house is like the opposite of a Gretchen. It's an open concept.

Speaker 1 So the Gretchen comes, like, oh my my God, Gina, the house is so pretty. And they take a tour, which, you know, is two rooms.
And so we see the kids' rooms and stuff.

Speaker 1 And then there's a container in the laundry room that says, check your pockets.

Speaker 1 Like, just, you know, there was a time when we would clock Gina for her decor. And I think that when she lived in her small home, she didn't have room for her decor.

Speaker 1 And now that she's in a larger house again, the decor is back. I mean, the little like, check your pocket.

Speaker 1 She loves some word art. That's Gina's thing.
It's always been a thing. Kitchen, buy a place.

Speaker 1 She's acting like she's.

Speaker 1 I want to make Gina some word art. We should make some merch that just says in merch art font.
I feel so bad.

Speaker 1 I feel bad. I feel bad.
She would, she would make a great TSA agent, like, check your pockets. She puts it up there.
It just has like a sign up that says, security.

Speaker 1 Welcome.

Speaker 1 Live, laugh, screening. This is a visual interpretation of how much she's grown.
And yes, I'm referring to the check your pockets sign.

Speaker 1 She really deserves this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know what. Check your pockets before you leave the house and make sure you haven't been pickpocketed by one of these poor children.

Speaker 1 Really hungry here.

Speaker 1 When I, this is how much she's growing. This is a visual interpretation of how much she's grown.
And then I wrote, and how much work she's put into her beach.

Speaker 1 I'm pretty sure that was a typo on my part. What did I mean by how much work she's put into her beach?

Speaker 1 The idea of Gina even having anything close to her private beach is hilarious. I don't know what that's all about.
So Gina.

Speaker 1 I'm like, I'm telling you, she made a bunch of food because she caters all my parties. She's the one who did the bull party.
Do you guys remember that?

Speaker 1 It's the one that I catered from inside my house while you guys were on a boom because I wasn't feeling good.

Speaker 1 Of course, I remember that party because that's when they went on a tiny little boat and Heather came up the stairs and reached what was clearly there was no more to the boat.

Speaker 1 And she goes, is there another?

Speaker 1 Is there another floor?

Speaker 1 Is there another floor to this yacht? I mean, look up, Heather. There's no more Urana Gina yacht.

Speaker 1 There's one floor and one floor only. So did Jen get to go meet Tamara? And Jen did have lunch with Tamara.
It started with a whole I'm obsessed with her things, just oh god.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm like a single white female. Um, and I've taken photos of her to go to the doctor to look like her.
That's what she's saying.

Speaker 1 And Gina's like, Oh, actually, Heather told me Tamara pulled out her phone and she pulled out like this formal fatty photo of Jen. And by the way, a fatty photo-that's what we're saying today.

Speaker 1 Everybody's got to say, We're casting a

Speaker 1 fan photo like 20 times today. Okay, it was like a fatty photo

Speaker 1 2024,

Speaker 1 Emily, I can't, you know, when I had to wear this size, it just reminded me that I just am different than everyone else. That's really hard.
2025. Fanny photo.

Speaker 1 There's a fatty photo. Oh my God.

Speaker 1 Look at Fanny. Look at the fatty photo.
Oh my gosh. She's like a fatty photo, bitch.
Why would she show my fatty photo?

Speaker 1 What's Tamara's point? What is her point? This is ridiculous.

Speaker 1 How do you cry about this low po, you're you're point in, this low point you're in, and you're going to therapy, and you're still finding time to find a fatty photo of me? I mean, it's a fatty photo.

Speaker 1 I have a question. Was the photo a picture of a fat you or was the photo itself fat? Was it like thick stalk? It's like, no, Gina, that's not the point.

Speaker 1 I have lots of fat photos of Tara would like them.

Speaker 1 Actually, I post them. I don't care.

Speaker 1 Oh, oh, Emily doesn't care. Really? Because last year you had a season-long breakdown because somebody gave you jeans that not as small as everyone else's jeans.

Speaker 1 Someone gave you the size of jeans that you wear and you literally had a breakdown about it all season. But now everyone's just supposed to be calm about it because your buddy Tamara did it.

Speaker 1 You fucking hypocrite, Emily. Oh my God.

Speaker 1 Ding-dong, ding-dong, ding-dong. Hello.
I am here. It's television's Heather DeBrux, and I have arrived with a housewarming gift.
I hear there's talk about fatty photos.

Speaker 1 So to celebrate, I have brought you an ice cream machine. And by me saying I brought you an ice cream machine, I have brought Alfredo here.
Alfredo, bring in the ice cream machine. Thank you.

Speaker 1 You can just put it on one of the poor stools here. Put it somewhere a fat person can find it.

Speaker 1 If we've also brought a ring light, so that way you can take your fatty photo with the thing that's making you a fatty photo, the ice cream machine. Enjoy!

Speaker 1 I was just in Paris for two days, which made me think of ice cream. They love it there.
Somehow they don't gain any weight. Isn't that amazing? Sorry, Jen.
Is it too soon?

Speaker 1 Do you know about the fatty photo? Why are we talking about the fatty photo?

Speaker 1 There is no one on this cast who is going to use that ice cream machine. Not a single one.

Speaker 1 Well, first of all, the only one who would would be Gina, but she, well, she just, her problem is that she won't understand how to work it. She'll be putting like

Speaker 1 masking tape and stay posting or something. She's like, canned Ragu in there and shit.
Whatever she finds in the check your pockets bin.

Speaker 1 Guys, my ragu ice cream didn't work out i feel bad i broke the ice cream machine

Speaker 1 so uh tamara is then tamara arrives

Speaker 1 and she is you know obviously very sad uh because she's like you know the situation with teddy and she's like after my fat with jen my obsession anxiety is heightened i'm expecting someone to come after me at every given moment i checked once i've checked twice And all my former fatty photos are still safe.

Speaker 1 But I don't know what's going to happen next. Who's going to reveal my fatty photos?

Speaker 1 I'm terrified coming to this party. Everybody's just so mean to me.
It's so rough going in places where people might confront me about things I said about them.

Speaker 1 Terrible, terrible life I'm leading. So Gretchen's like, we don't have to say hi to her, do we? Like, this is so awkward.

Speaker 1 And so

Speaker 1 she's a gay person, just ignore her. So Gretchen's.

Speaker 1 Can we just treat her like a trans person and eradicate her? That would be great.

Speaker 1 I love Gretchen being anti-trans when she is the one who is transitioned the most on TV from

Speaker 1 a human face to

Speaker 1 basically an ink spot. I mean, that lady.

Speaker 1 She's detransitioned. Maybe that's why she wants everybody to detransition.
It doesn't mean erasing your nose, Tam, or Gretchen.

Speaker 1 Gretchen is the one who knows the most about what it's like to transition because she's the one who has actually erased everything on her face.

Speaker 1 Am I being problematic right now? I can't tell.

Speaker 1 I'm just trying to diss Gretchen, okay? I'm just trying to diss her, guys. I think it got out of hand.
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Speaker 1 So she's like, I don't want to say hi. So all the women gather on the sofa and it is really awkward because Tamara, you know, Tamara brings in this energy that's like,

Speaker 1 you're the one who fucks with everybody. And now you're going to come in here and try and get pity off somebody else's cancer.
This is so fucking Tamara.

Speaker 1 It's like, okay, I don't have my own cancer storyline. So I'm going to steal someone else's from a different show because I've been an asshole all season.
Like, okay, Tamara.

Speaker 1 Also, congratulations on your sudden onset social anxiety, which has never existed until this scene.

Speaker 1 Oh my God, it's such sunshine anxiety, which is, of course, why I went on a very calming show like the Traders.

Speaker 1 So Gretchen is like, Okay, well, Gina, what's your favorite part of the house? And she's like, Well, it's really nice to have a pantry. That's where, like, dreams come true.

Speaker 1 That's what I always say to Alfredo. I say, go into the pantry.
Your dreams will come true in there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the pantry and also like I did all my drawers.

Speaker 1 And she goes, Oh, wait, you say draws, not drawers?

Speaker 1 Is that you? Typical ice cream lover. I told you it would be the perfect place to drop that thing.

Speaker 1 I love how hyper-regional your New York accent is, unlike mine, which I've erased thanks to the Syracuse College School of Performing Arts.

Speaker 1 We had accent training, something that unfortunately Wendy Malik never did. I think we all remember when she tried to play an Italian nursemaid in that feature film called Italian Nursemaids.

Speaker 1 It was a terrible film. I don't know.
Did anyone see it?

Speaker 1 Fairy on the nose.

Speaker 1 Very on the nose. Which is, which is what the Gina's ragu sauce is currently on her nose after she tried to put it in my ice cream machine.
I'm going to stop talking now.

Speaker 1 Gina, what's your favorite? Oh, you know, sorry, I already did that. So Shannon comes and she's like, Papa, Gina, I brought you my tagline in a bowl.
There's lemons in a bowl. There's soap.

Speaker 1 You're welcome. So this is so nice, Gina.
Wow. So this is the entryway to the, this is the house.
Oh, well,

Speaker 1 this is, it is. There are walls here.
So that's good.

Speaker 1 Wow. Room for a sofa and a dining room table.
Wow. This is, you've really come up in the world.
Very, very, very nice. Does this dining room table transition into a bunk bed or where the kids sleep?

Speaker 1 They have rooms. Oh,

Speaker 1 oh,

Speaker 1 oh, oh. I think I'm gonna like it here.
Doodle, doodle. What am I gonna manage? Am I in a mansion?

Speaker 1 What is this? The lullaby of Broadway. I mean, luxury everywhere.
So Gina's like, I'm like really underwhelmed by Shannon's response. Oh, it's nice.
All she has to say is it's nice. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's all she's going to say because last time she ever said anything about your house, you started a feud with her for an entire season. I can't believe Shannon was so mean about my house

Speaker 1 Remember that?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 So, and she's going to do it again because this is how she yeah. And then when you walked into my house, all you said was it was nice.

Speaker 1 Like, you didn't even congratulate me on like everything I accomplished. Again, the house.

Speaker 1 Because it's nothing more than that, Gina. It's just a perfectly nice standard house.
That's it. It's nice.
It's a very nice. It's a nice house.
I mean, we give her shit.

Speaker 1 It's a nice house, but that's all you get. Okay.
It's a very nice house. Not Bravo.
We see much nicer houses.

Speaker 1 It's a house who prepared. So Tamara can't eat today.

Speaker 1 I can't eat today, guys. I'm just thinking about Teddy's tumor news.
So we talk about Teddy's cancer and stuff. And she says that they were in New Orleans two weeks ago going to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 And Teddy fell down the stairs. And they were like marble stairs.
They were marble stairs. And

Speaker 1 finally, Teddy was feeling better. I don't know why that

Speaker 1 pay attention, but

Speaker 1 she's like, I just want to get it upstairs.

Speaker 1 to. Which meant it was worse for me.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 downstairs. There were marble stairs.
And there were marbles on the stairs. Which we thought that's why she fell down.
But that's not why.

Speaker 1 So she's, Tamara was sad because, is sad because Teddy was finally feeling like herself. And now she's got to go into treatment.
Okay, now I'm going to say this. This is where I got annoyed.

Speaker 1 Well, one of the many different places, and I'm in a constant state of being annoyed.

Speaker 1 But, you know, we've obviously over the years given Teddy so much shit like endless shit but one thing that i i think that we probably both would believe would be that like i'm sure teddy hates that tamara's going on the show and acting more dramatic than teddy herself is acting because teddy's whole vibe is like i got cancer hi i'm teddy i got cancer i'm moving on like that's been her vibe i think which i think is actually really cool but i feel like

Speaker 1 tamara

Speaker 1 except when she goes on our podcast and lists all the people who haven't reached out enough but go ahead. But yeah, for the most part, why not? You know what? Actually, I'm going to say, why not?

Speaker 1 That's when you have the right for sure. You have the right.
You have to get petty about who's been texting you. Play that card.

Speaker 1 But Tam, like, look, I'm not going to take away that it's like a motion. It's distressing.
One of your best friends has cancer and has tumors. Of course.
Of course. That's so distressing.

Speaker 1 But there's kind of a feeling of like, Teddy's being strong right now. Like, how about you be strong with her rather than like,

Speaker 1 because because she's kind of, I think, painting Teddy as

Speaker 1 in a way that I don't think Teddy seems to be wanting to be painted at the moment. So it kind of rubbed me the wrong way that Tamara was, as you said,

Speaker 1 it felt more like Tamara was squeezing this out for pity as opposed to truly honoring the vibe that Teddy.

Speaker 1 It gets sad. And if you bring that up with your friends and you're like, you know, my best friend has...
got cancer and it's horrible and everything she's going through it's bumming me out.

Speaker 1 And of course, people are going to be, that's understandable. And of course, your friends are going to support you.
It's just that Tamara is doing this because she knows she's in trouble.

Speaker 1 And this is always, she always finds something to bring up. Yeah.
It's like she's trying to use the victim cloak and it's not even hers. It's somebody else's, you know?

Speaker 1 And it's just gross. It's annoying.
So

Speaker 1 she's using someone else's victim cloak and that person themselves doesn't seem to even be using it, you know? Right.

Speaker 1 So it's like, yeah, she busted her in the chair and Tamara picked it right up and put it on. Like, I'll wear that.
You're not going to use it. I'll use it.

Speaker 1 It's like someone rented a car and then Tamara went and took the car and started driving it like it was her own. It's like, no, it's not your car to drive.
And it's not even my car to drive.

Speaker 1 What are you doing?

Speaker 1 So Jen and Shannon are outside with, I don't know who. And Gina's like, oh, by the way, I'm Gina.
So I'm here to really start some shit. She's, oh, no.

Speaker 1 Jen's like, Gina says that she thinks there's a fat photo going around. And Emily's like, oh, well, you're the one who knows.
I mean, apparently Tamara had photos of Jen before, right, Heather?

Speaker 1 And Heather's like, oh, it was one. It was one.
It was one. One.
One photo.

Speaker 1 One photo. We crushed it with the photo.

Speaker 1 It was disgusting. It was some fat lady.
So we put it in the ice cream machine and hoped it would go away forever.

Speaker 1 We put it under the ice cream spout and just let Alfredo pour all the fatty things all over it.

Speaker 1 Fun fact: Alfredo went and made an ice cream out of Alfredo sauce. It was so meta.

Speaker 1 We said the fatty lady in the photo would probably call it a milkshake.

Speaker 1 We decided this year for Halloween, we're going to put up the picture of the fat lady on the window and scare all the children.

Speaker 1 What was the point of the photo? To show that there was a fatty photo. That was the point.
There was a fat person. It's in the name of the photo.
It's a fatty photo.

Speaker 1 To show there are very scary photos in the world.

Speaker 1 To explain that you need different style of lenses for different styles of people.

Speaker 1 Fisheye,

Speaker 1 wide lens,

Speaker 1 cinema, demonstration,

Speaker 1 the difference between

Speaker 1 it was to demonstrate the difference between poor people, fat, and rich people, skinny. That's it.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't get the point of it. And she is, well, you know what? She said, look at this photo.
She looks so different.

Speaker 1 And I said, she looks cute and I made it a all caps and elongated cute to make it sound fatter

Speaker 1 it's like when you see a fat baby you say oh so cute because you know they're we they will naturally lose that fat so you

Speaker 1 find that process cute yeah so she showed you my fatty photo to be kind no no no it was more like you want to be her meaning in case nobody understands what that meant she meant like you were coming to the gym and you wanted to do a fitness thing with her and you spell it out from another person's view and you can kind of see what she's and she's like, wait a minute, wait, Heather, Heather, what?

Speaker 1 Heather, Heather.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no. Look, it's not my fight.
It's not my fight. I'm just telling you what she said.
But you're about to tell me that you could see it from her perspective.

Speaker 1 Not her perspective, from one's perspective, which is obscured by the fat person in the photo.

Speaker 1 You know, all I'm saying is there's two sides to everything, and sometimes they're both on one person, which creates a fatty photo.

Speaker 1 I'm going to have so many nightmares tonight. So

Speaker 1 Jen says, you know, she's like, you know, no, Heather's always going to go bad for Tamara because she's scared of her. That's the problem.
Look, there's two sides to everything.

Speaker 1 You, no, you, Heather, you were bamboozled.

Speaker 1 I'm not familiar. I don't understand that.
Jen's just so funny indignant to me. It's a cracking the air.
She's like, Heather, you have been bamboozled. She's like, nope, not my fight.

Speaker 1 But you were about to say you could see it. Well, okay, okay, fine.
And Shanna's like, well, I don't think Tamara does anything innocently. And Heather supporting Tamara right now is just hurting her.

Speaker 1 And that is my opinion. Did you get it? That's a jump friend.

Speaker 1 It's a big thing, the taglines for me today. So.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I did that bit with Earl, and he just stared at me and told me that his former stepson still hasn't visited. And I thought, well, you're really taking the wind out of my sails.

Speaker 1 And he said, don't talk about wind because there's a hurricane coming to my house. I said, I can't really seem to do anything right.
And he said, you really can't. And

Speaker 1 it's been tough. It's been tough.
But we went on another date after that.

Speaker 1 And Jim says again, Heather, you are bamboozled. That is...
fucked up. You don't do that to another woman.
Well, do you can if they're fatty. I'm just

Speaker 1 hey, hey, so what do you guys think? They're just like, you guys think they're just talking shit about me out there? Huh? What do you think? Because one group is inside, one group's outside.

Speaker 1 And Gina's like, well, every group that you're not in is talking shit about you. That's why when we're not in one group, I feel me.

Speaker 1 So back to Heather. She's like, so you are upset.
I didn't say that's fucked up. Well, I don't think it was presented that way.
I think I was very non-committal about the whole thing. Non-committal.

Speaker 1 You know, we are not going to adjudicate adjudicate whether or not I was committal about the fatty photo, the horrifying fatty photo. So Jen goes, but you know her undertone.

Speaker 1 The presentation doesn't matter. Okay, I like Jen, but is she taking up for me when Katie says something? Does she step in?

Speaker 1 When Drake doesn't come over after my sixth invitation, does she stick up for me? Does she advocate for me with Drake and the basketball player? What's his name? Bon Bon? I don't think so, homie.

Speaker 1 And not only do I not know, I don't care. And she does it with that frown teeth thing she does.
She's like, I don't care.

Speaker 1 That's exactly why I'm bringing it up. Yeah.
So Katie, Gretchen, Gene, and Tamara are inside. And Katie's like, did you ever talk to Jen?

Speaker 1 And Tamara's like, well, I went to lunch with her and it went left so fast. She started calling me names.
She's calling me

Speaker 1 the humble names. She goes, well, didn't you call her single white female? She goes, well, yeah, because she asked me and I said, you're obsessed.

Speaker 1 You're reaching out to people who don't like me to build relationships with them and gretchen goes like who she goes uh like you

Speaker 1 well she needed consoling i mean you literally went out and told people the fbi rated ryan

Speaker 1 and i apologize for that i mean what's the big deal what happened to the times that you could just accuse someone of being rated by the fbi bitch yeah it was a simple sorry that's all that required come on and gretchen's like i feel like you're not really ever learning your lesson.

Speaker 1 Like, you didn't because you did the same thing to Ryan and you do it all the time. You keep doing the same things over and over.
So, come on, Gretchen.

Speaker 1 I don't want to keep on going over the same old stuff forever. Like, you attacked me for 12 years, Gretchen.
I've had just so attacked. I'm so attacked.
Started it.

Speaker 1 Who started it?

Speaker 1 That would you, Tamara. She's been on defense for 12 years.
She hasn't been attacking for 12 years. She's been on defense.

Speaker 1 Don't make me defend Gretchen on the same episode where we were pointing out that she's a transphobe homophobe okay do this to me it's like it's like a fight of the asshole it's like two assholes just going at each other so gretchen's like you are actually delusional

Speaker 1 and she gets up and walks off and she's like i'm gonna excuse myself delusional literally delusional So she goes outside to sit by the other one. She makes a big scene.

Speaker 1 She's like, can I sit by you guys? Because I don't want to sit by someone. Delusional.
Did you just learn the word delusional? You're really holding tight to that one.

Speaker 1 Well, did you apologize for that Facebook comment? Because you should show that you're the bigger person.

Speaker 1 That's what I always do, which is why I really showed I was the bigger person with Katie earlier this season, right? And America remembers that moment.

Speaker 1 So she's like, well, I always have to be the bigger person and I'm over. Can we stop talking about this photo? It's disturbing enough that we have to look at it.

Speaker 1 We already have a bigger person in the room, and that's Jen. Jen, do you have anything to say?

Speaker 1 Jen, would you like to apologize to us for being fat in our presence? It was a long time ago. The memory of it hurts.

Speaker 1 I just got an extended seat belt for the memory of you. Okay.

Speaker 1 Jen, when we leave this party, we're going to ask you to leave from that exit instead. That is the fat person exit.
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 And Gretchen's like, you can't reason with someone whack that in the head. I want to stoop to her level.
That's what I want to do.

Speaker 1 Well, I hope all the gay and trans people in the world feel the same way right now.

Speaker 1 So they all go inside. I'm like, you guys want to see my ass?

Speaker 1 Not really.

Speaker 1 Luann just passes by. Not really.

Speaker 1 She's like over the fence like Wilson. Not really.

Speaker 1 Luann, you're supposed to be hiding your face.

Speaker 1 What, a cabaret star supposed to hide her face behind the fence? I don't think so. Be cool.

Speaker 1 So Gina has gifts for everybody. So she hands them all gifts and they're like, don't open them yet.
I got to do a thing.

Speaker 1 So, she goes upstairs and hangs out a window, and she's wearing like a New Orleans, you know, costume, like a bunch of beads, and she's got a little horn. She's blowing a little horn.

Speaker 1 It's like, Ladies, you know, I'm no screen to the magic, and I've had a magic experience for myself on the show since we're all talking about old clips today.

Speaker 1 So, I think you guys are in need of voodoo help yourselves. I planned a trip to NOLA, and like they like to say in New Orleans, don't forget to check your pockets.

Speaker 1 So she throws beads and Tamara's like, ha,

Speaker 1 ha,

Speaker 1 ha.

Speaker 1 So she's Tamara goes off with, she goes inside because New Orleans, it's too much for her. It's too much.
What's in Mihana?

Speaker 1 It's okay. It's okay.
But all this talk about

Speaker 1 former fatty photos. I'm going to the city of Fat Tuesday.
It's too much. It's too much for me right now.
Guys, don't you understand?

Speaker 1 The last time Tamara was in NOLA was when teddy fell down the stairs they were marble marble stairs

Speaker 1 oh my god that's right i'm in my old house i used to fall down the ladder to the second floor all the time oh god

Speaker 1 so tamara's like i'm just telling myself she'll make it she'll make it and gretchen's like wow she's really good at playing the victim huh

Speaker 1 Gretchen not giving an inch. She's like, no.
Yeah. I will not accept your friend has cancer card.
No, it is not accepted. Sorry.
She's not the hero we want, but she's the hero we have.

Speaker 1 To quote Batman. So Tamra and Sophia at home.
So Sophia is looking at her Spotify stats and she got a thousand monthly listeners, which is cool.

Speaker 1 And she wrote a song about a girl who met a guy online who ends up being cannibal. The song is called Cannibal.
The song is called The Love Life of Erica Jane. So congratulations.

Speaker 1 Oh my God, she's gossiping. She's doing everything herself.
I mean, look at this. Her face, the girl who writes a song about a girl falling in love with a cannibal.
I won.

Speaker 1 Wasn't there a song about that? We are cannibals.

Speaker 1 Anyway,

Speaker 1 it doesn't ring a bell, but I'm sure there is.

Speaker 1 I love that she's got a stolen cannibal song. She's like, she's just like taking really macabre ideas, but they've already been bad.

Speaker 1 Everything's been done at this point.

Speaker 1 I'm going to write a song about this hotel in California where everybody goes to die.

Speaker 1 Tamara's like, could you make me a song?

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 1 I think The Bitch is Back. That's not a new song.

Speaker 1 But so Jay's like, no, you can't even sing.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to write you a song. We've already made you a song, and it's called Hey Betch.
And there will be no better Tamra song ever written than Hey Betch. So

Speaker 1 it will be playing at the end of this episode. Thank you.
Hey Betch. Hey, Betch.
Hey, Betch.

Speaker 1 So then we go to Katie and son being boring. I mean, they're boring.
She's like, my son plays the piano. I don't care.
And also, he makes his own songs and they're not about cannibals. What a nerd.

Speaker 1 You know, I love when the housewives, when the producers are like, let's add some thematic parallels in an episode.

Speaker 1 You have Sophia making songs on Spotify, and then you have Bandon making songs, not on Spotify. Loser, loser.
Way to not get ahead in the business. Congratulations.

Speaker 1 Good luck making songs by yourself that go nowhere without Spotify. Dumbass.

Speaker 1 Hey, listen to your song on nobody heard it. If I

Speaker 1 wow, please welcome four-time never had a Grammy Never Will. Loser.
Bandon.

Speaker 1 Just Josh and

Speaker 1 a little baby. So then we go to Emily and her family, and she's like slopped some ground beef into a pan and is pushing it around.
And

Speaker 1 so her son's like, what is that? And she goes, ground beef. I just got it out of my purse.
You want to try it? And he's like, no, it looks weird. And then he runs off.

Speaker 1 She's like, oh my God, he's got an eating disorder. You think his ground beef looks weird? Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 So she makes it another, another scene.

Speaker 1 To be fair, that may be most people's reactions to Emily's pan of ground beef that she's working on. They did not look appetizing.

Speaker 1 I can't imagine any kid walking in and seeing that in a pan and being like, delicious, mom. Put it on a plate, right?

Speaker 1 It's like raw beef. Yes.
Can I have a piece of that half-cooked ground beef?

Speaker 1 It looked horrible. It's like, I can't believe he doesn't want to eat it, Shane.
We need to do something. Emily,

Speaker 1 you're writing a little hard on this storyline. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So Emily does, Emily has a conversation with Shane and, you know, they're talking about how they're going to, they're going to find out where he is on the spectrum soon.

Speaker 1 So then we have Jen and Ryan at the gym and they're working on their workout plan because they're going to get married. Are we going to see their wedding on this season?

Speaker 1 I feel like they're queuing it up, but there was no indication, I feel like, anywhere that there's going to be a wedding.

Speaker 1 It doesn't feel like the cheapest Bravo wedding ever because they're just going to be on a beach. So done.
Yeah. Done.

Speaker 1 So they're working out.

Speaker 1 And Jen is saying that like a lot of women struggle with confidence and body image so hearing hearing that Tamara's showing up a fatty photo of me is just gross. I mean, how old are you?

Speaker 1 I can't believe she's throwing a fatty fatty photo, big blubbery fatty photo of me.

Speaker 1 Like, why are people, why do they keep saying fatty photo? They're saying fatty so much. I know it was cracking me up.
So, Brian's like, oh, sorry.

Speaker 1 And by the way, I think we should also point out, like, A, it's, it's just a photo. Like, she's like a little heavier in the photo, but like, they make it sound like she is in Gilbert Grape.

Speaker 1 And also, even if she wear, like, who cares? But like,

Speaker 1 they are, they really are acting like these are old problematic tweets that are going to get her canceled.

Speaker 1 A la Gretchen. And it's.
Well, Tamra was doing it to be mean. Like, she, I don't even like it.
Look at this. She used to be fat.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's, Tamara is so disgusting, but the way that everyone's acting, you're right. And that's why we're laughing so much about it.
Cause like a fatty photo, you see the picture.

Speaker 1 It's like, what, you had a kid a month ago? Like, what are you talking about? Jen has a perfect Barbie body. Like nobody,

Speaker 1 only in Orange County would people be scandalized by somebody being a different weight at a different time. You know, it's so stupid.

Speaker 1 But also just the way that they're kind of like so insensitive about it. Like they're, they're horrified about it.
But they're just the way they keep saying like, look at this fatty photo.

Speaker 1 I can't believe she's showing a fatty photo. Did you hear there's a fatty photo going around? And there's just like the way they keep saying fatty is like, it's just, it's so mean.

Speaker 1 And they just keep saying it over and over again in this, with like clutching their pearls. It just, it's, it's, it's why this show is so hilarious to watch.

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Speaker 1 So now they're talking about the kids' situation, and Ryan's like, Yeah, you know, I'm just having a problem with your ex. I mean, it's problematic.
This guy, it's been over a year.

Speaker 1 You know, the kids live with us. You've got a lump sum in your divorce degree.
He hasn't paid a dollar towards. He doesn't pay them anything.

Speaker 1 And then we see Jeff Lewis show, the biggest shitstir on this show these days. He's on his show and he's like, So you got $500 in your divorce?

Speaker 1 And she's like, Well, it's $200, but no, I have not received any of that okay well you get 6,000 a month in whatever and she's like well unfortunately he has not been able to make those payments so

Speaker 1 he did give me a bag of peppermint patties and says that this exonerates him from all obligations and I did agree until Ryan said this is not the same thing as $200,000 and I said you're right you're absolutely right so we gave him back the peppermint patties

Speaker 1 then tamara cheered for me somewhere. I just felt Tamara cheering for me.

Speaker 1 And she's like, you know, I just worry this situation is going to be a drag for Ryan. You know, I just don't want it to be a drag because then he'll want fun and then he'll leave me.

Speaker 1 What am I going to do? And so she's like, you know, at least we're communicating.

Speaker 1 And thank you for telling me how much it's bothering you because to get the attention of my last husband, I mean, the only time I could even get his attention was to get naked.

Speaker 1 And then suddenly the laptop would close and the AirPods would come out. And he's like,

Speaker 1 well, I definitely need to get some more air pods yes

Speaker 1 so then we go to gina at shannon's and she's like oh my god look i brought i bought pizza it's gina's pizza

Speaker 1 asked me to borrow 20

Speaker 1 i just can't fit

Speaker 1 the poor pizza yeah

Speaker 1 this pizza is styled so poorly

Speaker 1 um so you brought me a pizza and the box says pizza that is so you

Speaker 1 Wow. So you

Speaker 1 how funny. Because I remember walking down the streets of New York City eating pizza with hands and being a normal person.
And did I ever get a box of Gina's pizza? I don't think so.

Speaker 1 Why do pizza boxes always say pizza? It's like you're the most obvious box in the world. Like no one is going to think a pizza box is anything else.

Speaker 1 The only thing shaped like a pizza box is a pizza box.

Speaker 1 You don't save yourself the font. You know, it's like, oh my God, did someone deliver me a frisbee? I finally got a frisbee.
That's a pizza.

Speaker 1 I really need to write pizza on that so I don't get my hopes up. I just ate a frisbee.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 Gina is marveling at all of Shannon's plates. Wow.
I've never seen so many plates in my life. It's like so many plates and they're all made of metal.

Speaker 1 I love that Gina is shocked by someone having different kinds of plates for different things. She's like, wow, none of those are paper.
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 I feel bad for people plates.

Speaker 1 So she asks Shannon how she's feeling. It's like, well, I'm alone and I

Speaker 1 love it.

Speaker 1 It's just so crazy how much fun I'm having being all alone with none of my kids here to talk to me, no husband to talk to, nobody around trying to kiss me or make me feel good about myself.

Speaker 1 I'm just so

Speaker 1 happy.

Speaker 1 You know what I love about being alone is you just get to sit at home and think about how you went to some hotel once and man after man after man came through that door and still couldn't find love.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 oh, I'm happy. I'm a very happy person at home alone.
Home alone. Sometimes I just go up to the bathroom and put after spray on my cheeks and go, wow.
It's like Kenny McAllister.

Speaker 1 I mean, home alone kid was miserable. Look at his childhood and he's even got a marriage.
So I'm so happy. So happy for him.

Speaker 1 Sometimes I put all my jewelry out on a table and hope maybe two burglars will come by and visit, but

Speaker 1 nope.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't even make any crazy traps for them or anything. I just, I would be the crazy trap.

Speaker 1 You won, you won me. Steal me, take me away.

Speaker 1 I did dangle myself from a rope and hope that a burglar would walk in so I'd come swing at their face like a pan can and just make out, but didn't really, no one ever opened that door so i just dangled there for a whole afternoon yeah

Speaker 1 so gina's like okay well how are you feeling and well you got a bench of men i don't know why you're upset she's like oh well i've got adam and phil they want to hang out with me but they don't want to get intimate with me so

Speaker 1 yeah i wasn't really listening can you believe shan can you believe that there's a form of fat photo of jen

Speaker 1 form a fatty photo it's like oh well there's a hypocrisy there she can dish it out but she cannot take it

Speaker 1 so gina's like yeah she's not growing she's mean and so now we talk about gina and she's like well you know like we're both working and that's good but like we haven't seen travis's son for three weeks and his ex stops sending him to school and i know it's because i said you know it's a response to us moving in together so like i have like i feel bad about that but like i don't know what to do like what is enough enough here

Speaker 1 well i don't like to use the whole bottle oh i i thought you were talking about the hairspray that you've been using. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 That's

Speaker 1 you're talking about your

Speaker 1 this lady. Oh, yeah.
It's very difficult. Yeah, it's like difficult to think that your choices are like either live apart and be happy or live together and pay a price with clean

Speaker 1 or just live alone and have some poor person bringing you boxes that say pizza.

Speaker 1 So Gina's like, yeah, but I'm like not giving it up to someone who wants to take it. You know what I'm saying? I don't know what you're saying, actually.
Do you think marriage will help?

Speaker 1 Do you guys want to get married? Because I would love to watch another divorce season for you. Well, I don't know.
Like, she just wants to mess it up. It's not bad.
It's not cool. I feel bad.

Speaker 1 So she doesn't know if she can handle this the rest of her life. And she's definitely not having more children.
And this does sound like hell. Oh my gosh.
Imagine. Oh, terrible.

Speaker 1 And the prize you get at the end of the day is Travis. I mean, no offense.
And could you imagine this lady is not sending the kid to school? We were just talking about this. What was it?

Speaker 1 Unschooling? Unschooling. Yes, unschooling your children.
It's a thing. It's a thing that people do now.
So Gina is

Speaker 1 packing with meatball. I do like meatball.
She's like, meatball, did you fall?

Speaker 1 And then Meatball is like, I did. Thank you for announcing that to

Speaker 1 America.

Speaker 1 It was a silent but deadly but you just made it loud and deadly and then Ryan is Ryan and Jen are packing and Jen's like what is Mardi Gras by the way it's just an excuse to get drunk and show boobs and then Ryan's like can I come

Speaker 1 so then

Speaker 1 yeah it's where you know Mardi Gras happens you know you've heard of Fat Tuesday how dare you Ryan how dare you bring that up right now why would you have the time why would you say that I hear there's photos so I hear Tamara showing a photo of Mardi Gras around just not right so then we go to Shane and Emily being wacky.

Speaker 1 And he's like, I went to New Orleans once. We went into a voodoo shop.
Pretty creepy.

Speaker 1 I love Shane, this little Mormon kid going into a voodoo shop. Just still horrifies to this day.

Speaker 1 I know. Emily's like, there are people in this group who are possessed.
We can do an exorcism.

Speaker 1 And thankfully we leave that scene. And then we go to Shannon and she's talking to her daughter.

Speaker 1 And she's like, well, okay, I don't want any, I don't want to risk any negative voodoo shit coming inside me.

Speaker 1 The daughter's like, oh, mom. What? I just don't want anything coming inside me.
I don't,

Speaker 1 here's what I don't want. I don't want like a big explosion of who knows what.
I don't want a big creamy voodoo moment that's going to come right inside me. Mom, you just please stop.

Speaker 1 Can we leave this FaceTime now?

Speaker 1 So it's airport time.

Speaker 1 So they're going and they have to do separate flights because it's not easy getting all of these bitches with a non-stop non-stop flight with first cleanups like it's hard it's like hard to get to bro to fly commercial period and heather did look disgusted this entire trip

Speaker 1 she just

Speaker 1 you know she had like a pack like like six inches tall of like wet wipes she's like hold on one second let me just wipe this down like ma'am uh don't worry we we cleaned down all the make sure this is covet free no germs no it's not germs.

Speaker 1 It's just poor oils, poor people oils. Let's just wipe those all off.
Thank you. And they also call it first class, but it's like, it's one of the planes.
It doesn't have true first class.

Speaker 1 It has the just like slightly bigger seats, but that's it. You're still like rammed in there.
And I love that for Heather. Yeah, because it's not a transcon, a pure transcon flight.

Speaker 1 So since it's only going from like LAX to New Orleans, only going halfway across the country, they don't get like the pods that you would if you're going from like New York to

Speaker 1 but even the even the normal first class like even without all that you know the normal one has like the big wide seats like with a thing in the middle and all that they didn't even have that they just had those like sad ones where you you're like oh my god I found first class for cheap and then you get on there and you're like oh this is not first class it's like comfort plus but don't forget Gina booked the tickets I feel be booked they're lucky they weren't sitting on those spirit airline like bicycle seats and shit that they're making you do now they're on Gina's Pizza Airlines so um they arrived I feel bad.

Speaker 1 Heather is. IFB Airlines.
I feel bad.

Speaker 1 Heather's like trying to do a bit. She's like, oh my goodness, I love it.
I love it. I love the Poor People Airlines.
Do you guys have, what are they called? Pretzels? I would love one of those.

Speaker 1 Thank you so much. So one group gets all the plane.
Meanwhile, the other group is in, Shannon is in a spank store in the airport. And she's like, I have to go to the spank store.

Speaker 1 I wear spanks every day. I'm seeing if they have new stuff.

Speaker 1 So then Gina is talking about

Speaker 1 beads. Oh, she's like, oh my God, they've got beads at the store.
And she goes, oh, yeah, you flash them for beads. And if you come home with beads, I know what you're doing.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 No, it was rhetorical. What am I doing? It means you flash your boobs.
Oh.

Speaker 1 Anyway, we're staying in the same room, everyone, because we're like, we're like Bert and Ernie, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're like Bert and Ernie, but I'm like more like, I'm more like Bert because I'm like more linear. I'm like the linear one.
I'm like, I don't think that's the right use of linear, but sure.

Speaker 1 Also, you're calling her fat. Yes.
What the fuck? That's so what is with this show? It's like, I'm the one, you know, linear one. And I'm always like, yeah, I'm the fat, the fat orange one.

Speaker 1 So then, um, now it's tell that I want.

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 1 No, I was, I was saying, I wouldn't want to be called the orange one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the fat orange one.

Speaker 1 So, I mean, you're powerful. At least you're powerful.
You've got a lot of power for a couple of years. So then I don't know what you're talking about.
I adjust it's like, it's not my favorite color.

Speaker 1 So we go down.

Speaker 1 We go to the hotel. The Gretchen, Katie, Gina, and Emily are the ones that get to New Orleans.
And so they walk around. They go to the water and they see stuff in the water.

Speaker 1 And Katie's like, is that an alligator? And Gina's like, oh my my God, alligators live here? Oh my God, what's this river? So Katie doesn't know. So she looks up the river.

Speaker 1 And Gina's like, none of them know.

Speaker 1 Gina calls the river the bayou. She thinks the bayou is just

Speaker 1 the name of a river in America. It's the bayou.
It's not even the bayou river. This is just what the bayou is.
They're on literally the most famous river in the entire country.

Speaker 1 One of the most famous rivers in the entire world. What is this? What river is this anyway? And by the way, when you go down, I'm like on one all of a sudden.

Speaker 1 When you go down to New Orleans, there are like signs everywhere that's like, Mississippi River, Mississippi River, come board the Mississippi River Queen. Like, well, we know what is this place?

Speaker 1 I'm confused. I like that they go up and ask a local.
They're like, what river is that? And he goes, it's just a river.

Speaker 1 He gets an X. And then Katie's like, no, no, it's a river, but it's called something, you guys.
Let me look it up.

Speaker 1 So she, I don't know what she does, but she still doesn't get it and the producer tells her it's the mississippi she goes well i don't i don't know about geography god

Speaker 1 i

Speaker 1 you know what you don't have to know about geography but at least be able to use google maps please although actually in defense in defense Google Maps drives me nuts because how many times do you like look to see what the name of a street is and the name is not there and you have to like scroll all the way up the street because they decided to put the label elsewhere and the label does not dynamically move down to where you're looking at that moment.

Speaker 1 That actually actually drives me nuts. But it does not take away from the fact that they still should have known that that was the Mississippi River.
Yeah, you're still dummies.

Speaker 1 You're dumb, dumb people. On the plane,

Speaker 1 Heather is doing that standing up thing where she's talking to her friend standing up because this is what you should be able to do on private jets. So this is how the other half lives, normal people.

Speaker 1 Okay. I hate when people stand in the aisle to talk to their friends.
I don't know why. It drives me nuts.
They're always lingering over someone.

Speaker 1 They always have their hand on someone else's else's seat. Someone's probably trying to sleep nearby.
And they're having a conversation, always dangling over.

Speaker 1 And when Heather does it, she really dangles over. She really gets that Coraline's mother dangle going, you know.
And it's just, it's too much.

Speaker 1 So, um, Shanna's being super wacky, and she's like, I'm putting stuff on my lips, and you want some? And Heather goes, Oh, you want me to put nipple cream on my lips? Oh, it's nipple cream.

Speaker 1 Oh, God.

Speaker 1 I'm good.

Speaker 1 You know, when you live alone, you know, you just sort of forget. You forget what cream is for what.
Am I right? God, so many creams. Mother, please just stop talking.

Speaker 1 So Emily's like, oh, you know, I went horseback riding with Jen the other day, and she said that Shannon told her not to roll on her.

Speaker 1 And Tara's like, well, I wouldn't either, especially with that photo going around. And Emily's like, well, Shannon likes to have an ally.
So

Speaker 1 they're acting like they don't stop. Burton, Ernie.
Like, who's fucking talking? Look what happened the second Gina tried to hang out with anyone else.

Speaker 1 You're like, oh my God, I can't believe you're leaving me for Heather DeBro.

Speaker 1 Enjoy your life with Heather DeBro.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to sit here and eat this fried chicken in my purse.

Speaker 1 If we have to sit through another season of Emily and Gina complaining to each other that they don't have each other's backs, like, please. Yeah.
So Emily's like, why is it, why is the opposite?

Speaker 1 I keep telling everyone to do. And Gina's like, well, we want everyone to get along.

Speaker 1 That's what we famously like that's why every time every year when people tune in to see us they say let's watch gina emily and how they make sure that everyone gets along yeah but they're also the couple that starts the most on the show i mean tamara does obviously but they spread tamara's you know they're the age of spreading like gina's gina started this whole katie you know thing the fatty photo things i mean they're starting they start it so gina's like um yeah we want everyone to get along and like gretchen you like we get you got problems with timer

Speaker 1 and i'm like we'll work our way up to that that's a big one that's a big one and so gretchen's like yeah you guys you know what i'm praying about it a lot i really am i'm just asking jesus to like change my heart but she has to take accountability and document somewhere that she won't try to get a penis later because it's really important for the children of this country.

Speaker 1 And I'm all about forgiveness, but the Bible doesn't require you to reconcile with people who are trying to harm you. And that is called wizardom.

Speaker 1 Like, really? She did say wizardom, right? I rewound it five times and laughed and said stupid

Speaker 1 wizard. She said wizardom.
Dumb hooker ass Gretchen.

Speaker 1 Oh my God, Gretchen. Well, first of all, stop praying to God to find like some sort of forgiveness in your heart for Tamara.
God created,

Speaker 1 God, God, God, not.

Speaker 1 Tamara's the devil. I don't think God wants you to be forgiving to to the devil.
God created the devil, too. Have you watched the nature show? Take a look at what God's created.

Speaker 1 Have you seen a lion eat a deer?

Speaker 1 God's also got other things to deal with, not like trying to help you reconcile or coexist with Tamra.

Speaker 1 So Gretchen's like, what's it going to take for that woman to stop spreading the lies?

Speaker 1 So now the other plane lands

Speaker 1 and Jen has a lot of luggage, but Tamara helps her, which just goes to show that there's hope. And Jen says, you know, when Tamara is kind, it feels like she's like my girlfriend again.

Speaker 1 But like something in my brain says, be careful, because the other shoe will drop. No, well, because your foot's too fat.
Form a fatty hat. It's going to be stuck on there for years.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Stop dropping shoes and start trying to drop some weight, bitch.

Speaker 1 So Shen's like, well, my suitcase is wet. What is it raining? Is this sweat? What is this? Sweat? And someone's like, it's sweat.
She goes, oh, that is disgusting.

Speaker 1 It's just so wet. Everything is just so wet.
It's just,

Speaker 1 I just can't, it's, that's, you know, it's very exciting, but it's the, I'm so excited about this trip that look, my, my case got wet.

Speaker 1 Mother, I swear to God, if you do not stop talking on this episode, I am going to come down there and put some duck poop on your mouth. I had so much fun in New Orleans.

Speaker 1 The first thing I did, I was like, wow, this place is great. I'm wet.
What is it can be? What is a whistle?

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 we are, Heather's in a room. Champagne.
Oh, look, look. I got myself champagne.
That is so nice of me to give that to myself. Oh, I love it.

Speaker 1 I just loved Heather walking around this tiny, dingy, dark room, looking like trying to look like she was okay with it. It was so funny.
She's like,

Speaker 1 look, I can walk from the bed all the way to the other end of the room. By just taking one step.

Speaker 1 And there's champagne. I'm sure it's a delicious brand as well wow

Speaker 1 yeah they were in a four seasons but i think heather is like yes but we stay at the five seasons so

Speaker 1 this is a bit down market for us it looked down market for heather that room for sure it did um yeah so then shannon has a wacky trying to get her suitcase open moment And Katie goes over to Jen's room and Tamara comes to Tamara's room.

Speaker 1 Gina comes to Tamra's room. And Gina's like, I'm around to my room.

Speaker 1 I just wanted to come by your room and see. How are you dealing with everything? I'm dealing better, but some meeting.
Everybody's so mean to you, Tamara. Poor thing.
I am a poor thing.

Speaker 1 Let's give her. Get your hand off me, bitch.
Why are you trying to be me? I am you. No, you're not taking my streets.

Speaker 1 Oh my God. I just walked in on Tamara having a one-woman show was scary.

Speaker 1 How are you doing, Tamara? She's like, I'm nervous. I have hashtag social anxiety.
And I have to have dinner with all these people. So then Katie is saying, talking to Jen,

Speaker 1 and she's like, you know, they brought up the pics of you again. You know, the fatty pics, the super, super fatty, fatty, fatty photos.
And, you know, I just said it's unfair.

Speaker 1 And, you know, to say that she's moving on. And then you bring out the fatty photos.
Like, why would they just bring out Blubbert 3.0 photos?

Speaker 1 And Jen's like, well, you know what we should do? Why don't we sit her down and just just say, Tamara, your apologies do not work anymore. They just don't work.
And so we go back to Gina.

Speaker 1 She's like, yeah, let's have a good night tonight because that goes spiral into more good nights. And she's like, oh my God, you made me feel so much better.
Wow. Wow.

Speaker 1 How sad is it that I'm in a season where my only refuge is Gina?

Speaker 1 And that is sad. That's a sad place to be.
So then we are in a car. Now it's a little bit later and they're in a car, I guess, going to dinner or wherever they're going, lunch maybe.

Speaker 1 And Heather and Katie and Jen and Gretchen are in the car. And Jen is like, well, we went on a riverboat today.
It was fun and peaceful. Oh, and now we're here.

Speaker 1 Went from one disgusting mode of transportation to another. Great trip, everyone.

Speaker 1 So then in Shannon's van, Emily's like, hi, Shannon. And she lifts up her skirt and she's like, oh, I'm going to have a look at your vagina the whole night.

Speaker 1 And Shannon just lifts her skirt all the way up and they blur out her vadge. And she's like, Well, I guess I just put some nipple cream on here accidentally.
So

Speaker 1 this is why you always have to stop by the spank store in the airport because now I didn't get my spanks. And look, look what you see.
Blur. So now they arrive at the restaurant.

Speaker 1 And when they get there, the host is like, okay, everyone, I'm going to show you your table, but we're going to pass the ghost's table first.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 The ghost. Oh, is that Gina Keogh? No, she's still alive.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 It is the lady who, is it the lady who designed the swimsuits? No,

Speaker 1 it's not her either. Oh, is it is it the is it

Speaker 1 not what was her name again? I wanted to say Vicki, but it's not Vicki. Um, Peggy, Peggy one and two.
Is it a double ghost of both Peggies?

Speaker 1 Hey, that reminds me, Noble in House. That reminds me.
Um, where has Vicki been? She's not a friend of this season. Wasn't she here last year?

Speaker 1 She was here last year. Did we not see her? Remember last year when she arrived in the middle of the trip, she went

Speaker 1 in the door.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we haven't seen any Vicky. No Victoria so far.
Nope. No Vicky so far.
Okay, so not that I'm complaining, but so then we get,

Speaker 1 they're trying to guess who the ghost is. So then Shannon's like, well, I have heard ghosts having parties in my house at night.
I hope they're having fun.

Speaker 1 Once I was upset in my kitchen, sitting there alone, thinking how happy I am. and a ghost just sat there and stared at me and ate chips very slowly.

Speaker 1 Who are you going to call? Anyone, really. Anyone.

Speaker 1 Janet Busters.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 the host, she has a very sad experience with that song.

Speaker 1 When there's something strange. in the neighborhood.
Who are you going to call?

Speaker 1 Many people, because they don't answer the phones anymore for me. It doesn't matter who I'd call, they won't answer.

Speaker 1 So the host interest.

Speaker 1 The ghost table, and it's Pierre. And Pierre was a resident owner in the 1700s.
It was his grand estate. So I'm sure it was a very pleasant place.

Speaker 1 Like, just think of what was going on in the 1700s in this place. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 You know who would love it? Thomas Ravenel. So

Speaker 1 I have some repression soup. Sounds delicious.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
So then Heather's like, oh, wouldn't it be fun to hunt Chateau Soup Dubrux? See if they took my etched window down. See if they have round time.

Speaker 1 See if they ever let Richard Marks out of the basement. Oh, it would be so hilarious.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So Joe will be right with you. And Gina's like, wait a minute, is Joe with us? Or is he like a ghost too? Because like, I don't know if I want like a waiter that's a ghost.

Speaker 1 Because like, that would mean that the waiter is probably like invisible, right? Like, how's he gonna carry a dream?

Speaker 1 I'm like, hilarious.

Speaker 1 I have a question about the turtle soup. Is that actual turtle? Or is this like how when we say Wendy Malik has a career?

Speaker 1 Technically, yes, I guess it's a career, but we all know it's not really a career.

Speaker 1 And Tamara's like, you're not eating a turtle. Come on.
And she's like, I'll try the turtle soup because like I like to try things where we are. And also, I get turtles sometimes in my backyard.

Speaker 1 And you never know when you're going to need to feed the kids.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 wow. Gretchen, you look like you're the detective emoji because you're wearing a fedora.

Speaker 1 And Tamara's like, oh, God, another Gretchen costume. You know, she went on she-in and searched rich detective.
And for 15 bucks, this is what she got. Ha, Bern.
Hashtag burn.

Speaker 1 So, do you have to travel from Skylar? Because one thing I try, I regret is not traveling more without the children. Okay.
By the way, who is with your children, Jen?

Speaker 1 And she's like, well, Ryan, I mean, they're supposed to be with Will, but that's not really working out. She's like, how do, how do him and Ryan interact?

Speaker 1 And she says, well, they usually don't, but they did today because Ryan had the kids and he

Speaker 1 went up to the ex and he said, how could you do this? Pay your child support.

Speaker 1 And Will said he does the best he can you know he pays the driver's insurance and you know he said he's on the loan for harrison school he's one of 10 people um but yeah so that was his defense

Speaker 1 and jen tells us that like will is very controlling and like by ryan like confronting Will, Will is probably going to retaliate by blocking her and make life hard, etc.

Speaker 1 So Emily's like, well, if he's, if he's in order to pay support, he has to pay it. God damn it.
And Katie's like, I just feel bad for Ryan.

Speaker 1 Matt has been in the same spot you know and she talks about custody issues and everything and gina's like you know it's hard to sit back and be the person to do nothing like because travis's ex was contacting my child and my ex-husband and i haven't seen his stepson in a month and he's like not at school outrageous that we're letting this poor woman talk so much at the dinner this is you're only allowed to have five minutes gina Emily's like, I'm a lawyer.

Speaker 1 You should be in front of a judge.

Speaker 1 So Heather, one of the waiters comes behind Heather and spills a drink on her.

Speaker 1 And I died. I mean, this trip is hell for Heather.
Heather is hating every second of this fucking trip. But did she stand up into the waiter's drink?

Speaker 1 It looks like she was standing and that's why she got spilled on, right? Or was she watching it? She was because he got spilled on.

Speaker 1 I watched it several times because what you first see is that the waiter is putting down like an espresso martini and then it like knocks over, but then Heather stands up after that and then winds up wiping her back.

Speaker 1 I think what happens is he had a tray of espresso martinis.

Speaker 1 And as he was leaning forward to put down one, the tray tilted and they fell on Heather's back, which startled him, which is why the front one on the table, he shook it because he's like, oh shit.

Speaker 1 So all we do know. There's lots of spilling.

Speaker 1 I think that I think the spill we saw was actually the secondary spill and that there was a main spill that happened on Heather's back, which is sad that we didn't get to see the full view of it, but great knowing that

Speaker 1 a service person spilled a cocktail down Heather DeBreaux's back. Oh my God.
That person is. And no one ever ever seen Joe again.

Speaker 1 Fed to the alligators in the Mississippi River, which turned out to be just logs. I'm sorry.
Can we have him replaced with an Alfredo? Thank you.

Speaker 1 Well, at least if they're going to spill on me, at least they spilled with my own glassware that I sent ahead of me.

Speaker 1 I tried to bring Alfredo, but he got lost in the luggage.

Speaker 1 So it sounds like, oh, my God, for all of the people for the ghost to spill on i mean that cost more money than my whole month's rent before i got evicted i mean

Speaker 1 that that happened

Speaker 1 how could you get evicted when i'm the realtor

Speaker 1 so emily is like okay well tamara you and gretchen really need to have a sit down and she's like yeah i'd rather talk to jen

Speaker 1 Okay, all right, go in chronological order, but like not tonight, because tonight we're going to have fun. All right.
So the food comes.

Speaker 1 They like the turtle soup because turtle soup's good i had it once like 10 years ago i enjoyed it it's fine and then just in case anyone wanted a an express culinary review on turtle soup that's my

Speaker 1 thought flash review by man flash review i like turtle soup all right so shannon uh

Speaker 1 turtle soup not so bad moving on they start talking about um shannon getting a missed call from adam and jen's like okay shannon if you could create a man on a vision board what would you put well first of all,

Speaker 1 a man.

Speaker 1 Any man. Really? I don't care.
A man with vision? I don't even care. Really?

Speaker 1 Whoever you want.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know if you guys know this, but earlier this evening, Slimer came to my room and I thought, honestly, I would date him. A little messy, but gives me something to do.
Clean up after him.

Speaker 1 Oh, I've got one. Would you date a short guy?

Speaker 1 Hello? That was very personal.

Speaker 1 It wasn't. It wasn't.
Terry's worn lifts for years.

Speaker 1 Oh, God, he's got lifts. They're from China.
And his shoes are high and very highly priced. So he probably won't be getting any more anytime soon.

Speaker 1 Okay, Shannon, you have a bevy of men, okay? A bevy. Well, they, well,

Speaker 1 they don't want to be intimate. They're just friends.
They're friends. And most of them are ghosts at this point.
It's been an issue.

Speaker 1 It's very hard to make out with someone when they have no corporal presence. Someone's like, well, I can't even imagine being single.

Speaker 1 The only thing that's worse than a fatty photo is a single photo. Am I right, everyone? I mean, you have to give blowjobs and get on top again.
I don't do that.

Speaker 1 I like it from behind so I can watch TV. I like watching my 600-pound live on getting banged.
If I could add snacks, I would, because I'm wacky.

Speaker 1 Well, how about you, Debro?

Speaker 1 bro how about me what are you gonna wait on this i'm sorry i'm just thinking about the many sternly worded letters i'm gonna be writing to the management of this restaurant for having an espresso martine trickling down my back for the rest of this evening okay continue on without me i'm just thinking 600 pounds how many gens was that

Speaker 1 i mean that's that's like two maids right there

Speaker 1 So Emily, so Gina's like, oh, I know she likes being on time.

Speaker 1 And Emily says, okay, yo, she's probably like, oh, yeah, Terry, tell me about your stock portfolio. Oh, oh, yeah, talk about stocks.

Speaker 1 Terem's like, I haven't did yet.

Speaker 1 I never,

Speaker 1 ever made a sex video, ever. Have you? And just want everyone to know that if you have made a sex video, you do not count as an actress.
Just want to see some ground rules right away.

Speaker 1 I mean, I don't know if you would count this one where I just got basically espresso martini bukhied by Joe.

Speaker 1 And Shannon goes, well, I'm sure Katie has sex videos because she records. That's what she does.

Speaker 1 Katie's like, you're right. She goes, well, it's something for her to talk about, Bonnie rape.
But my favorite position is on the side because so I could go to bed. I'll show you.

Speaker 1 Let's get down on the floor. So she's gets on the floor and she's like emulating having sex on the floor of a nice restaurant

Speaker 1 where I was like, oh, if only

Speaker 1 that careless waiter could come back and spill an entire tray on her. Yeah.
So Joe, the waiter, is upset. He looks very upset that they're fucking on the floor.

Speaker 1 And Jen's like, well, you know, that my vagina, it doesn't work. Jen's like, oh my God, your vagina is broken.
And Shamara's like, yeah.

Speaker 1 The holes closed up, right? With the laser thing. What'd you do to it? And she goes, it was pelvic floor surgery.

Speaker 1 it's it's literally right now it's just the tip just the tip goes in there it's like that

Speaker 1 she's ryan's the scenes kitty's like her mouth must be tired

Speaker 1 guys i'm having so much fun but like some of us have our differences but like i'm happy that you're all here and we're having the best time ever friendship friendship friendship

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 24 hours later, you are the leak. Stop lying.
I cannot stand you. You are the worst person in the world.
You were spreading round fatty pictures. None of this is your business, bitch.

Speaker 1 You're rude and you're sloshed.

Speaker 1 She's losing her mind. I'm out of here.
I'm out of here. Poor person.
Poor person. Yeah.
And Gina says, oh my God, you guys, Tamara, just quit the show.

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