#2948 Crappy Hour 7/28/25: Jax’d Off with Guest Misha Brown

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Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 hello and welcome to Crappy Hour. I'm Ronnie.
That's Ben over there. Hello, Ben.

Speaker 2 Hi, Rondola. How are you?

Speaker 1 Good. How's everything going over there for you, babe?

Speaker 2 It's great. It's great.
It's another crappy hour. I'm excited.
How's everything going over for you?

Speaker 1 Good. We just did an Amazon Live and I gave myself a nice red light facial.
So I'm feeling very relaxed and

Speaker 1 at peace, at peace with the world. And you know what else really made me feel at peace? Jax is fired from everything.
So I'm feeling so good.

Speaker 1 I feel like the universe is finally starting to pay attention to our audience. Okay.

Speaker 2 To the audience.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But before we get into everything, we would like to introduce one of our friends, our pod friends, fantastic podcaster. You guys have heard his podcast, I'm sure, and you've at least heard us on it.

Speaker 1 If you have any kind of

Speaker 1 goodwill, his name is Misha Brown. He is from the Big Flop.
Hello, Misha. Hi, Bestie.
How are you?

Speaker 1 Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 3 Rolls have reversed this time.

Speaker 1 Pressure's out.

Speaker 1 You're on domain.

Speaker 1 You win the award.

Speaker 2 You win the award for literally the best camera we've ever had like a guest have on crap ends i've never had such a crystal clear beautifully lit guest so congratulations

Speaker 1 thank you so much

Speaker 1 yeah i know and you and ben look like you could be kind of next to each other on the same set i'm just somewhere random with sunlight

Speaker 1 you look great too ron yeah stop it in your nice naughty little places i'm like yeah skin cancer let's do this

Speaker 1 Misha, it's good to talk to you, babe. What are your, what would you say are your flops? You celebrate flops, the big flops.
So what would you say are your big flops for the summer so far?

Speaker 3 Oh, big flops for the summer.

Speaker 3 So listen,

Speaker 3 I caught a little bit of heat today, not going to lie, because today's episode of The Big Flop is on Katy Perry.

Speaker 3 And so some of her fandom came for me a little bit, being like, she just got a broke, she just got broken up with. And I was like, well, we did

Speaker 3 recorded it before that got announced, to be fair.

Speaker 1 That's very floppy. but like fine with making people who just got dumped she earned that

Speaker 1 she earned it perry she earned it yeah

Speaker 3 but honestly like i think the the biggest flop though is is like she cannot sell that tour

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 3 yeah live nation reached out to me they're like do you will you please come i was like i'm not traveling to another city to go see katy perry for free even sorry so yeah i think that's a pretty big flop um you know what was not a flop was um george santos going into prison I know.

Speaker 2 What a great, what a great anti-flop.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, he's a flop.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 What about you?

Speaker 3 What are your flops?

Speaker 1 I think that George Santos counts as a flop, don't you? I mean, he really tried it. Although he did come far for a flop.

Speaker 1 He was a flop who like really gained a following, you know?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And a lot of money on cameo.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a lot of money. He reversed Katie Perried.
You know,

Speaker 1 Perry is more of a flop because she's, you know, she was really famous and now she's coming down. And he's different because he was little and came up and is now going to jail.

Speaker 1 You know, so it's better. George Santos beats Katy Perry.
That's what I say.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I guess like flop for me, I guess, you know, I'll just like bandwagon and go for the Epstein files. Why not?

Speaker 1 Like there's a flop. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or are they? All the way around.

Speaker 2 No, no, I mean, they're not going to be able to do that.

Speaker 1 You mean like the non-release of the Epstein files? Man, I've been waiting for those things for years. Those things, they never come.
And

Speaker 1 I'm going to explain the files are not coming.

Speaker 3 Did you see today's little headlines that just after the DOJ goes and talks to Delaine Maxwell? She's like, wait,

Speaker 3 we should talk about overturning my conviction, actually.

Speaker 1 And then Trump is like, he's like,

Speaker 1 I mean, maybe I'll think about it.

Speaker 1 I did it for the Christies. Hey, why not? I can do it for you.

Speaker 2 She's like, I'm going to unflop myself. Look, Santos is in.
I should go one in, one out, right?

Speaker 1 That's how it works. that's how it works speaking of flops and the Christie's getting out of jail was that their name Chris the Christie

Speaker 1 Christleys the Christleys

Speaker 1 yeah yeah them getting out of jail did you read that the husband is it Chris Christley what's his name what's his name yeah I think he's like oh my wife coming out of jail that look was a turn off

Speaker 1 so that's what finally did it that's what did it for you huh oh Christley what a little ass he probably had a great time in jail let's just be probably

Speaker 1 his wife came out of jail looking hot by the way. I was like, yes.

Speaker 1 I mean, she looked like she could serve me lunch in the fifth grade, but also kick someone's ass, but also kind of hot, like ride a motorcycle. I was into it.
Okay. Good for her.

Speaker 1 What's her name, Dana?

Speaker 1 I don't know. They're not.
I don't follow them.

Speaker 2 Me either. I'm just going to

Speaker 2 say that.

Speaker 1 Dana, we'll just say it.

Speaker 2 Dana Christley. Hey, Dana.

Speaker 1 Hey, Dana. She gives me Christly energy.

Speaker 2 You know, it's not a flop because we were just talking backstage that you went to Backstreet Boys boys also

Speaker 2 a week or two before us but we just went and we had the best time that was reverse flop

Speaker 3 same loved it so much that was like i you know what i was anticipating i'm gonna be completely honest i was going strictly for the nostalgia factor but i thought it was gonna be a little cringy just based on how long it's been since we've performed and you know been a boy band together but i thought they were really great

Speaker 1 They did a great job.

Speaker 2 They were so good.

Speaker 1 They were really good. I love home massage in the seats because the seats seats vibrated so yeah

Speaker 3 you know what i loved about it too was like most of the audience was of a certain age and so most of us were sat

Speaker 1 and loved that i told ben that because i had went i'd gone to see beyonce the night before and there were only a couple of times we could take the anti sitting down break you know like i call it like the anties anti hour or whatever but man and backstreet boards we got to sit down for more than half of that show i loved it sat i was like my back my lower back is loving Just watch videos.

Speaker 2 Watch spaceships going through space. The desert appears.
Like the wave, big giant crashing waves over your head. Like, it was like being at the planetarium.

Speaker 2 We have an update, by the way, in the comments from C C S B S, who reminds us that the Christie's names are Todd and Julie.

Speaker 1 And Chris Christley is just our brain melding Chris Christie with Chris, with Todd Christie. We don't follow the thing anyone who is losing their mind.

Speaker 1 So sorry, Dana Flop. Whoever Dana Christley is out there feeling attacked.
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 Big flop is the three of us on our Christley night.

Speaker 1 It's us. I hope there's not some lunch lady named Dana Christley out there somewhere feeling extremely offended.

Speaker 3 Just like an avid Watch What Krappens fan.

Speaker 1 She's listening right now.

Speaker 3 Just like tears.

Speaker 2 Some lunch lady, they'll be like, hey, Dana, I heard that you were in jail and that you got a makeover.

Speaker 1 And that you looked great. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I heard that you looked great. All right.
Let's go into some broadband news. We have been, I have personally felt so unattacked by the world.

Speaker 1 You know, like, I feel like lately the world is just not going our way. There's just so much going wrong in it.

Speaker 3 What do you mean?

Speaker 1 I won't get specific. But I mean, the Christleys were let out.
You know what I mean? Things like that. Danny Christley, free again, free to

Speaker 1 abuse people at lunchtime. But things have not been going well.
But you know what? That bad luck turned. the second we finished the last crappy hour almost.
Jax was fired from the valley.

Speaker 1 I don't care what they say. He did not take time off for rehab because he's not going to rehab.
So if he took time off for rehab, he's not going to spend it wisely. I'll say that.
Jax is gone.

Speaker 1 Ding-dong. The Jax is dead.
What say you?

Speaker 3 You know what? I have such a love-hate relationship with Jax because, I mean,

Speaker 3 He is a whole mess, right?

Speaker 3 We can all agree that he is a whole mess, but he also really makes good TV. And I do love watching him.

Speaker 3 I think he's aware of who he is and he's, you know, he's playing that villain character pretty well.

Speaker 1 But, oh my God, here's how I think about it.

Speaker 3 I think that I would have loved to hate him if we were friends back in my party days. I just like grew up 14 years earlier than he did.
I realized it wasn't a cute look after a certain age.

Speaker 1 Who doesn't love a friend with Coke? Right?

Speaker 3 I would have loved to fight with him.

Speaker 3 But, you know, I think

Speaker 3 with this whole season, I was kind of riding the fence with him on how I felt about this journey because I'm someone who gave up drinking and I'm, you know, sober.

Speaker 3 And I was like, okay, you know, good for you that you're trying and you can see the steps and all of that.

Speaker 3 And I was just like, man, everything's coming at him from every different angle.

Speaker 3 And then I think when I watched him like just hone in on Danny, I was like, oh, wait, there's the little child boy who hasn't grown up yet.

Speaker 3 So we're just the same Jacks from 10 years ago. Nothing's really changed.
So

Speaker 3 yeah, I'm the same with you. I'm like, good,

Speaker 3 sometime away might be good for you.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I don't think it's even going to be, I don't think, I don't think he could be fixed at this point. I really don't.
I think that like, he has never learned his lesson.

Speaker 2 He's going to wind up finding an audience that's going to embrace him and he's going to lean into narratives of cancel culture. Yeah.
He's not saying anything anymore.

Speaker 2 And like, what happened to when like a woman supported a man?

Speaker 2 like he's gonna do that whole thing it's it's like it's so inevitable his entire um his entire rehab journey just just felt it like bs like i just i just never heard that you could be in frequent contact with with people in rehab i didn't know that was a thing believe it or not i actually used

Speaker 2 a weird corner of my career is that i used to write reviews for rehab facilities oh my gosh

Speaker 1 did you know this ronnie no i'm trying i'm like going back in my Rolodex of all the things we've told each other over the years. I do not remember that.
You don't even do anything.

Speaker 1 You don't have to explain drugs to

Speaker 2 I was like a rehab travel writer. I would basically go on the website.
I would call them up. I'd get information.
I would write blurbs that was like, this rehab offers these kind of services.

Speaker 2 You have to, you have no communication. They have, this is the food schedule.
This is what amenities they have. I was like,

Speaker 2 I would do this. And I don't seem to remember any of them that were like, you get full access to your phone all the time.
You know, none of them said that.

Speaker 3 I don't ever want to hear the phrase rage texting.

Speaker 3 Ken said that so many times, but he did. You saw the, you could see the little, like the little shots of her phone and he was going for it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And the whole like, I don't believe he went to rehab because he was taking calls.
You know, I think that that's a fair point.

Speaker 1 i don't believe he went to rehab because his his pupils never changed and he continued screaming and yelling and sweating all over every medicine

Speaker 1 so that's why i didn't

Speaker 3 she said his forehead is greasy his pores are greasy his hair is greasy

Speaker 2 that was my favorite part of the season where she's like i used to love him so much now this seems greasy he's just so greasy i know that was such a great epiphany for her to finally see the grease it's like she finally like it was everything was lifted the mask was was lifted and all she saw was grease.

Speaker 2 So much grease, what we've been seeing for all these years on TV.

Speaker 1 She's finally found a chicken wing she does not want. So

Speaker 1 Andy says, I'm very pleased with his decision. I think it's reading the room well.
And I think the most important thing is that I hope that he can work on his issues and comes up.

Speaker 1 And this comes up at the reunion. He comes up at every reunion, Andy.
It's every single reunion he's been like, I'm changing. I'm changing.
I'm so sorry, but I'm I'm changing. I'm working on this.

Speaker 2 The problem with Jax Taylor is that coming seems to be a constant problem for him. It gets him into trouble a lot.

Speaker 2 So when things do come up with him for sure, I, yeah, like, um, yeah, like, well, he's gonna, this is, I'm so proud of his. It's such a canned response from Andy to be like, oh, I'm so happy.

Speaker 2 I think he's gonna really work on himself. I'm happy this is like he's doing this.
It's like,

Speaker 2 I don't think Andy is actually sincerely happy. He just has to say that because he has to be, you know, friendly to all the Bravo stars.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 You know, I just think it's funny.

Speaker 3 For me, it's like you quit a reality show that you started because reality starts catching up with you. And

Speaker 3 I was looking at a lot of comments over this once, you know, we got our, we knew what we were going to be talking about today.

Speaker 3 And there are so many comments of people suggesting that he is faking this.

Speaker 3 And the only reason he's letting go of his name on the bar and stepping away from the show is so that Britney will have to pay him alimony.

Speaker 1 Yes, well, that's another thing. He wants to get alimony from Britney.
So, if he is showing no income, then that's one way to get it.

Speaker 3 What a trash reputation to have.

Speaker 1 He's going to do that way, though, because he's not making a ton of money from Jax's. He's that's a licensing deal.

Speaker 1 You know, I don't have his financials in front of me, but he doesn't actually own that place. It's like some little, have you been over there?

Speaker 1 I have not been over there because I have pride and taste.

Speaker 1 No offense if you've gone, but it's just a little back

Speaker 1 portion of Rocco's, a restaurant that's out there that they put a different sign on and let him sell some booze.

Speaker 1 So he maybe gets like a small percentage of that bar, but he's not making, he's not rolling a dough from that.

Speaker 2 In other words, well, and he may not be anymore because the news is that Jax Taylor is stepping away from his Los Angeles bar, Jax's Studio City.

Speaker 2 And you know what's so funny just looking at it written out, Jax's Studio City, it looks like he probably reads that as like, this is my version of studio city not like it's not like it's jax's located in studio city jax is studio city is like yeah this is my town i own this place yeah that's the way he probably thinks this is the heart of studio city

Speaker 2 this is my studio city uh but he has left it um he made the decision to terminate his partnership according to tmz you know saying it was a

Speaker 2 Yeah, he said it was a carefully considered and necessary step to prioritize his sobriety and mental health. You were fired from your own bar.
We all know it.

Speaker 2 And if you get fired from Jax's, that's just, that's just sad at that point. Because like Ronnie said, it's not even like a real bar.

Speaker 2 It's just like a backroom with some, you know, fake succulents and a beer tap.

Speaker 1 Crazy.

Speaker 3 You know what?

Speaker 3 I will say, I do jump on the bandwagon of like if Andy really meant his sentiments toward the situation, because I just always think about these people like these are not next-gen NYC cast members.

Speaker 3 These are people in their 40s. They're full grown adults.
And, you know, that's all well and fine for them to like act like this on national television for themselves.

Speaker 3 But they do have real children who did not make those choices, but do have to deal with those real life consequences of mommy and daddy choosing to be reality stars.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You know, true.
And I mean, look, I always feel for the kids, but I'm going to feel for Jax's kids no matter what's happening because they're fully.

Speaker 1 One thing that I really loved about the Jax news is I was thinking, well, we already got our good news about Jax Jax being fired. Is that my good news for the year?

Speaker 1 You know, because I was still in kind of a negative place.

Speaker 1 And then the season finale of the Valley was on last week and Jax was doing his whole attacking Danny, you know, coming for him and trying, you know, doing whatever he was doing to him. And

Speaker 1 Danny came out with his revelation, you know, Jax is fucking.

Speaker 1 all you know employees from his bar and i loved that danny who's really been coached by nia the whole season to just keep your peace danny let him steal your peace I love that he finally volleyed one back at Jax and it could have gotten him fired.

Speaker 1 I mean, he got fired right after that. Yeah.
So you could they can take a lot. Like they'll take a lot as long as it's famous.

Speaker 1 And we see the old guy, you know, who owns Rocco's or whatever hanging out with Jax now, like trying to be one of the group. We saw him on the season finale again.

Speaker 1 We saw him try to tell off the, you know, the group of friends, like, you guys went in and took over his bar last night and put, put Britt's name on it. Like we saw him like standing up for Jax.

Speaker 1 So we know that that guy would actually be standing up for Jax, but now it's come to attack Rocco's business because you can't have that. That's sexual harassment, sir.

Speaker 1 So I really like that Danny ended up kind of getting one over on Jax in the end. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Well, and I, it was his behavior towards Danny was.

Speaker 3 It came out of nowhere. It was just like he had his like sights set on him.
It was like, you know, a wolf stalking his prey. It was, it was bizarre to me.

Speaker 3 And I was just like, okay, even if all of the things you're saying are true, like, I just don't understand why we're spending so much energy on this

Speaker 2 it's a massive deflection he just massive deflection yeah he's like he knows he has messed up and he was just waiting to find someone else to drag down I mean it is truly like crabs in a bucket and he he he he heard that there was a talk about Danny and he's like I can go up to Danny make him look worse than me and then I won't be the worst guy here like that's what he's always done and it just did not work this time it really he just he couldn't he couldn't get the stink off of him.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It was beautiful that it happened on another season where he said, this is my show.
You're on my show. So that's who he got fired from.

Speaker 3 Oh, but Zach, too, this season was, that last episode was wild.

Speaker 1 Zach did a great job.

Speaker 2 Did a great job.

Speaker 1 Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 It was, that was, that was a chaotic finale. I loved it.

Speaker 1 It was really good.

Speaker 2 I like Loki. Low-key, my favorite part was when Zach just dropped his arm into two tuna tartars.
I don't know why. I think the

Speaker 2 slapstick moment of the night for me.

Speaker 1 I was like, this is a great finale. Yeah.
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Speaker 1 So news that shocked nobody but one person whose name is Kenya Moore is that Kenya Moore confirms she's not returning to Real Housewives of Atlanta. What are all thoughts?

Speaker 3 I saw that.

Speaker 3 I mean,

Speaker 3 there's so many things, right? Okay, listen. So we, there's the dirty photo scandal, which, you know, people are saying there's a lot to do with that, her, you know, leaking those photos.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 But I think the biggest bombshell that I has me at the end, because Atlanta is one of my favorite

Speaker 3 cities in this, in this universe. And her saying that there's going to be two new cast members and that there would be well-known people, like names, has me on the edge of my seat.

Speaker 1 Do you like who she mentioned? Let me see who she said. Did she say?

Speaker 1 Well, she hinted, and then people are guessing.

Speaker 3 Okay. I didn't see any guesses.

Speaker 1 I did see them, and I don't have them here. So I'll shut up for a minute and research while you guys talk about it.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 I agree. I think that, like,

Speaker 2 I think that if she is to come back to Atlanta, it's just too soon after that scandal, especially since Brit is... threatening to sue Bravo.

Speaker 2 I think they keep their distance a little bit for, you know, until that blows over. I think they will have her back, though, because the audience was firmly anti-Brit.

Speaker 2 And so, Bravo's usually going to follow what the audience is saying, especially if their show is struggling a little bit. So, maybe they'll try to retool with some new people.

Speaker 2 But if they bring on two new people, I wonder who's out. Well, Brit is out, I guess Brit and Kenya, but Kenya was a friend of.
So, so Brit is definitely out.

Speaker 2 And I wonder if they'll drop anyone else or just expand or

Speaker 1 keeping everybody. I think they're keeping everybody.
And then the rumors are that, let's see here, Kay, Michelle, and Pinky Cole set to join.

Speaker 2 Oh, Kay Michelle.

Speaker 1 Kay Michelle. Okay.
That's those are the rumors.

Speaker 1 So we'll see, buddy.

Speaker 1 So, you know,

Speaker 1 Kenya's doing a fun job just kind of making her own confessionals on YouTube. She seems to be

Speaker 1 kind of a fun idea. Yeah.
To just like, well, just shit. I'll just pretend I'm on the show and do my own confessionals.
We should do that, Ben. We should have our own confessionals.

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Speaker 3 confessionals.

Speaker 2 When Kenya said that, I really felt like, what are you talking about? You're my best girlfriend.

Speaker 1 Like, what is this girl? When I saw her walk into that salon, I thought, oh no, poster boards, Kenya.

Speaker 3 Oh, you guys, it would be really good. I am, I'm on board for this.
I support it.

Speaker 2 Just bespoke fanfic confessionals on the bottom shows.

Speaker 1 Not bespoke.

Speaker 1 My hairy moobs coming out of a ball.

Speaker 1 So, um, real, this is a, this one sounds fun to me. I love the headline.

Speaker 1 Real Housewives of Potomac alum Candace Dillard Bassett unfollows Real Housewife of Atlanta, Porsche Williams, after filming the Traitors. Dun dun dun.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 How do you feel about this?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Let us know.
Okay.

Speaker 3 What do you think? So now this has me very excited because I love the Traitors. I was almost cast on season one, actually, before they went,

Speaker 3 before they went mostly famous people.

Speaker 3 In the early rounds of auditioning and casting, they were, it was just going to be regular people. And what do you need to be?

Speaker 1 What do you need to do to be considered famous? You've got like a zillion followers.

Speaker 3 Well, this was years ago. So I've grown a lot since then.
But yeah, they were interested in me because I know what that's like. Some sort of.

Speaker 1 Good for you. Yeah.

Speaker 3 But

Speaker 3 I've been in love with the show ever since.

Speaker 3 And so no, because Laurie, right, these two girls, like they have, these two women, they have a lot of history with each other, back to Bravo's chat room and Real Housewives Ultimate Girl Trip and everything.

Speaker 3 So for them to have that

Speaker 3 history of drama, then going into a reality show where there is murder and backstabbing and you're lying right to each other's faces, it's like, what kind of, okay, what, what caused, you know, the official act of the unfollow?

Speaker 3 You know, very

Speaker 3 exciting stuff.

Speaker 1 do you guys think it's something that's like murder-based like where one of them had to betray the other one or do you think it's just like personality stuff I'm gonna go with just personality stuff I'll bet it doesn't even have to do with like plot

Speaker 2 I think it's gonna be a mix of both to be honest I mean personally I didn't I thought they already I didn't even know they were on good terms because my memory of the ultimate girls trip that they did on peacock a few years ago Candace and Portia had beef back then and they were like not getting along So when it's like, oh, Candace unfollowed Portia, I was like, I thought they already didn't like each other in the first place, but maybe they had mended or something along the way.

Speaker 3 I think when I was looking, when I saw the headline and I read into it that, you know, they had kind of lost touch, I think one of them said. We've kind of like, I don't know, yeah, just

Speaker 3 slowly parted ways, but I don't know if the unfollowing, you know, it was like they still followed each other on Instagram or whatever, but something happened.

Speaker 2 But this is also Candace.

Speaker 2 And like, honestly, it may be just as simple that candace was you know i'm was up for was was in the line of fire and everyone voted for candace and portia voted for candace like everyone else and then candace comes home and is like the fact that she would vote for me when we are sisters and we were both on the real housewives that just bothered me because she built an entire like rivalry against robin uh robin

Speaker 2 on potomac up from

Speaker 2 very similar you know like i can't believe you would say that thing it was like so tenuous so you know she's good for a tenuous feud.

Speaker 3 Well, and I think that's that, that's, that's the housewives franchise because they, it's every season of the traders. They're just like, but wait, we're the housewives.
And there's no other series.

Speaker 3 It's like, they're like, other people are like, we know each other. We've met each other.
So Alliance, the other ones are like, we're housewives.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's it. The interesting.
Well, they have to on that show because they get kicked off first every time. You know,

Speaker 1 yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So good.

Speaker 2 Jealous of their fan base.

Speaker 2 By the way, Amisha, Amisha, before you go, I just want to, I feel like we forgot to mention, we did not even pour a little

Speaker 2 drink out for

Speaker 2 one of the biggest flops, which is the Aaron and Michelle relationship from the Valley, because Aaron and Michelle have broken up. Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 I know we all thought they were going to be a forever couple.

Speaker 1 Smother unfollow there. Yeah.
Yeah. Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 I know we thought they were going to last forever. Michelle and Aaron, but they are Splitsville.
They ended their, their relationship was announced to be deceased.

Speaker 1 I cannot believe it.

Speaker 1 I can't believe it.

Speaker 1 Do you think those crazy kids were going to last forever, Misha? I don't think any of these people are going to last together.

Speaker 1 No. Listen,

Speaker 3 the only thing, the only aspect of their lives that I'm jealous of, like I watch these reality shows and I see that like literally every time they get together, it's over food.

Speaker 3 And I'm just like, that could be me.

Speaker 1 I could get on board with that aspect of being a reality TV star because they are just, they're at brunch or there's just little snacks on the table they're having you know cocktails i'd have a mocktail sounds fabulous but then the rest of it is just so such garbage well i mean i agree with you except when you really think about it because i used to think that too like i have like eating issues like i just always want to eat like i go up and down 200 pounds within a year like not i'm not even lying multiple times my heart will pop soon but um i always thought that too i was like i want to be on these shows because all you do is eat but they never eat because you look crazy when you eat.

Speaker 1 So you're basically going to all these great places and being served free food, and then you can't eat the food. So it's actually kind of like the seventh circle of hell.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I don't know.
There'd probably be memes of me just like shoveling

Speaker 3 shrimp in my mouth.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I would not care. Yeah, it's free food.
It could be me.

Speaker 1 I love it. Well, thanks so much for being here, Misha.
You can follow Misha on Instagram at yourbesty, Misha. Also, follow the big flop.
What else? Is there anything else we should

Speaker 3 um well i mean it's it's a while away but my debut book uh be your own bestie is comes out february of 2026.

Speaker 1 oh no

Speaker 1 i love it congratulations that's awesome thank you well let us know so we can plug it yeah when it comes out yeah misha it's been great talking to you i always love chatting with you all right we'll see you thanks for coming all right bye bye

Speaker 1 All right, everybody, we will be staying here for a bit and then taking your calls towards the end of our hour here. So, Ben, what else would you like to discuss today on Crepey Hour?

Speaker 2 Well, we've been talking about some heavy stuff. You know, we're talking about like addiction and rehab, talking about scandals with pictures from Kenya Moore and everything.

Speaker 2 And I just wanted to, as long as we're talking about serious shit, let's talk about, if we're going to talk about serious shit, we're going to talk about serious shit.

Speaker 2 So, the thing that we must address, of course is that bethany frankel is maybe not going to go to the hamptons that much this summer hey oh whoa oh my god

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 2 yeah um

Speaker 2 i went on to my phone recently like a few hours ago and bet there was a video from bethany and she was like guys

Speaker 2 guys uh normally at this time i'm in the hamptons i'm not in the hamptons right now because you know what something's a little off something a little off over there and i've been telling people it's not off it's not it's not it's not the same and i said you know what i'm not gonna go to the hamptons Normally, I'm always in the Hamptons.

Speaker 2 I'm always in the Hamptons. Always there.
You know,

Speaker 2 it's a town full of fishermen. It's like people.
It's like young people. But you could not get me close.
The congestion is terrible. So I'm staying closer to New York.

Speaker 2 For three minutes. She explains with the urgency that it's the night before an election and you have to vote.
Otherwise, the country is going to go to hell.

Speaker 2 And she's given with that sort of intensity. She's like, and that's why I'm not going to be the Hamptons.
I go down to Florida. Florida.
You know what?

Speaker 2 It's 10 degrees hotter, but I go to Florida instead, but I'm not going to Hamptons.

Speaker 1 She's trying to make Florida happen because she got a place in Florida. And so now everything is horrible except for Florida.

Speaker 1 She's going to really try and make it look like Florida is now where everybody goes. It's not Bethany.

Speaker 1 I mean, people do go to Florida, but people who enjoy the Hamptons are not necessarily going to automatically like Florida. Florida's hot as hell, girl.
No, okay. Hamptons.
I say Hampton.

Speaker 1 I say stick with the Hamptons. I saw a little Bethany thing earlier where they were like, millionaire Bethany Frankl slams idiots for going and spending $7 a day on coffee.

Speaker 1 He's like, what are you stupid? I eat coffee.

Speaker 1 What are you spending? $7? Like, what are you, dumb? What are you, Morami?

Speaker 1 Hamptons whalers? Like, who does that?

Speaker 2 I don't even understand. I don't understand what this is all about.
I mean, in Florida, the coffee is amazing. I just want to point that out.
The coffee in the Hamptons, kind of off. It's off.

Speaker 2 I don't think they even have coffee there anymore. Just dirt.
Just dirt with water.

Speaker 1 Bethany Frankl still making headlines over stupid shit every day.

Speaker 2 Well, technically, I just want to say that for the record, there was no headline about this. This is

Speaker 2 a Ben mental headline. I just saw the video and was like, this lady is still, she's making announcements.

Speaker 2 God bless her. God bless Bethany Frankl.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So let's see here. What else do we have in here? Well, there's this Aaron and Denise Singh.
I wasn't here. I'm sure you talked about it.

Speaker 1 This Aaron and Denise Singh, a lot of people are asking us to talk about it. It's really rough to talk about because there's nothing I'm going to say except a rageful fuck you to Aaron Pfipers.

Speaker 1 I don't care what Denise did. He can try and go do any interview he wants and do any TMZ article that he wants and accuse Denise.
One of them today is he accuses Denise of Viking and addiction.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no shit, Aaron. Do you think we don't realize? We've been watching this show.

Speaker 1 Okay, we've seen her with her, whatever she's addicted to, most likely that or Zanni bars or whatever the hell else she's going on. Nobody's necessarily surprised by that.
And guess what else?

Speaker 1 It's not a reason to fucking beat your wife, you asshole. Fuck off.
I don't want to hear anything more from Aaron. So I don't really want to give that any attention until he goes to prison.

Speaker 1 Because fuck that guy. And also his whole like, oh, like she says she's supporting my family.
My family takes care of her dogs. My family does all this stuff.
They're unpaid.

Speaker 1 They don't even have hot water in the house. Maybe they should get fucking jobs, Aaron.
They're living in her condo that she paid for.

Speaker 1 She's not, now she has to pay their bills too because they watch her dogs. Fuck off.
Does not give you a right to abuse your wife.

Speaker 1 So mostly I'm going to avoid that because this is all you're going to get from me.

Speaker 1 Great. She's rage.

Speaker 2 And so in other news, in other news, so the Sheena book has been really, you know,

Speaker 2 making its rounds on the circuits here.

Speaker 1 So as did Sheena on the Hollywood circuit.

Speaker 1 On the Hollywood circuit.

Speaker 1 This book is making as many rounds as Sheena's made. It's impressive.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, you know, I did try. I did date a lot of people like Shane West,

Speaker 2 Shane West, and the guy, Shane West three times, and also

Speaker 2 Shamar Moore,

Speaker 2 the guy from Access Hollywood, the camera guy from Access Hollywood, just to name a few.

Speaker 1 Went through a lot of them. Yeah.
So let's go through some bombshells from Sheena's book. What we need to know.

Speaker 1 This is a People magazine, and I like that they've started doing the Daily Mail thing where they're like, people are too stupid to read. So let's just say in bullet points at the top.

Speaker 1 I love a bullet point. So what you need to know, Sheena Shay's new memoir,

Speaker 1 she has some big book bombshells. Okay.
She opens up about how she discovered how she had an OCD to finding out about Eddie Cibrion and Leanne Rhimes' affair.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to tell my truth or my story, Shays, tells people. So let's see.
What have the biggest bombshells been?

Speaker 1 You read it.

Speaker 2 I read it. I mean, I read this thing.
And if you guys want to hear a really in-depth discussion about this, go check out Glamorous Trash, where Chelsea Devontes and I break it all down.

Speaker 2 And we, you know, last week, last crappy hour, we talked about the Brock cheating thing with Kiki.

Speaker 2 But now people are getting learning more and more things about what's happened with like with Sheena. One of the things is

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 2 there's

Speaker 2 a lot of talk about Jesse Metcalfe because she talked about how she was dating Jesse Metcalf and that

Speaker 2 she wasn't drinking in support of him and things like that. And Jesse Metcalf

Speaker 2 basically was like, I don't know why she keeps talking about me.

Speaker 1 It's like

Speaker 1 two episodes of Desperate Housewives.

Speaker 1 Why does anybody think that that's a giant score, Jesse Metcalfe? He's like the sweaty gardener from Desperate House. Like he was on two episodes.

Speaker 1 Why are we, I don't understand how that's a big bombshell.

Speaker 2 But one of the other bombshells is that

Speaker 1 she

Speaker 2 in a book, when she talks about joining Vanderpump Rules, she basically is like, I was working in Villa Blanca and Lisa was like, I need you to work.

Speaker 2 Like, like, darling, I need you to come work at this party tonight. And then Brandy's there.
And Lisa came over.

Speaker 1 It's like, oh, I didn't know she'd be here. Oh, goodness.
Here, have it, have some water and get off.

Speaker 2 Don't work here anymore. And so Sheena thought like, oh my God, it was this honest mistake.

Speaker 2 But then like the big twist at the end of the book is that it's confirmed that Lisa Vanderpump did know that Sheena, Sheena and Brandy's past and that Lisa used Sheena to launch Vanderpump Rules.

Speaker 1 Well, of course she knew. And how did she know? Because Sheena told her.
Like we really think, listen, you really think that Sheena didn't know that Vanderpump knew and set this whole thing up?

Speaker 1 Of course she did. Sheena looked so fucking excited.
That was Sheena's breakout moment in TV. That was one of the most exciting things to ever happen to Sheena.
It made her a whole life.

Speaker 1 It gave her a whole career. For Sheena to act like, I was so, I'm still so fucking wise that she hurt me.
Really? Cause you did 10 years on her show and kissed her ass until recently for book sales.

Speaker 1 I am buying that from you, Sheena. Biting the hand that feeds you.
And I loved Vanderpump's response. She's like, I don't give a fuck.
How about that?

Speaker 1 I don't care what that idiot has to to say. I'm not giving her any air.
Okay. I've just started another fire, allegedly, in my new Las Vegas hotel for insurance money.
Just kidding, just kidding.

Speaker 1 Don't sue me. But

Speaker 1 yeah, she's, I love that her answer is now like, fuck off. And then Peter was like, well, you know, I don't even like any of the people from Vendor Pump Rules anymore

Speaker 1 because they all bite the hands that feed them. And Lisa made them all famous, which I agree with Peter.
But then Sheena posted receipts saying, oh, really?

Speaker 1 Well, it looks like Peter's mad now that I won't come on his podcast.

Speaker 1 Because she posts receipts of him being really nice and asking if she would have somebody come on a podcast network or something.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Did you see the teaser for the new Vanderpump Rules season?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 2 Well, it wasn't much. It was just like...
It's like, you know, this sort of the spectral sounds. And it was like, the faces are all different, but the rules are the same.

Speaker 1 Vanderpump Rules coming soon. That's all it was.

Speaker 2 But, you know,

Speaker 2 they're getting ready, you know, getting ready to spice it up. Although, I have to say, if you say

Speaker 2 the faces are all new, but the rules are the same, that could just mean the cast is coming back because it's always new faces every season. Let's be honest.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. It's Bravo.
You better have a new face. You're not coming back for another season.

Speaker 1 Another bombshell from Sheena's book. And listen, I have to say, I really like Sheena.

Speaker 1 I loved her on Vanderpump Rules. We were always Team Sheena.

Speaker 1 I mean, even when Sheena was damn wrong, I feel like we're always on team sheena sheena's getting on my damn nerves with this whole publicity tour about her book everything i'm reading about it is annoying me there's not one thing that's come out that's not annoying me the brock stuff annoyed and she's the one who got cheated on so i'm not saying she's annoying but that whole brock thing and like i didn't talk about it because i really want to protect my child so i wanted to wait for she was able to read because reading about it would really like be more intellectual for her.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 you're trying to protect her. You just put it in a book to sell books.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 So that whole Brock thing, I think, is kind of hypocritical to hold that and then accuse everybody else on the show of hiding things or not showing enough for TV and not giving enough of her life when she literally hit a huge thing to not villainize her husband, who's already been accused of sexual assault and all of that and lost, you know, custody after abandoning his children.

Speaker 1 So, you know, she's, it's a little much for bombshells from the book, but this one I thought was hilarious. Shay realized she might have OCD due to her fixation on Instagram followers.

Speaker 1 You don't have OCD, you have narcissism, girl.

Speaker 1 You have NPD, not OCD. Maybe you have both.

Speaker 2 Well, she also had another bombshell. So this is on Reddit.

Speaker 2 Bye-bye, Hello Drama reports. that Sheena says the season nine finale of hashtag pump rules was scripted in us weekly.

Speaker 2 The cast has been vocal about the show not being scripted, but you write about another moment in season nine that was also orchestrated, a confrontation with Lala Kent about you and Brock getting engaged during James and Rachel's engagement weekend.

Speaker 2 Oh yeah, I can tell about this. This is from the book.
Yeah, so basically,

Speaker 2 Sheena, we all remember that Sheena and Brock got engaged

Speaker 1 during the...

Speaker 2 party for James and Raquel, which was, of course, everyone was mad at them for that.

Speaker 2 And so basically all the girls were like, you know what we can do we can start a fight to kind of like distract away from it. So, she knows, like, yeah, we absolutely scripted that finale.

Speaker 2 Like, Lala pulled Ariana and Katie aside, and we're like, Okay, we're not going to show up and do our job, but like, we're going to, we're not, we're going to show up and do our job, but we're not going to tell production that we're going to fake a fight because production won't know we did that until this comes out.

Speaker 2 And so, basically, like they faked a moment, and she just says it was a one-off. And the only time they ever faked anything

Speaker 2 because they wanted to save their jobs and get another season. So, they were just being martyrs, martyrs, guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 she's basically like Jesus.

Speaker 1 That's ridiculous. And also, it's just bad.

Speaker 1 It's just bad reality stardom because it's like Rose Sheena and you're trying so hard to get on the valley and you're having problems with credibility and this is not going to help Sheena.

Speaker 1 So when she began another bombshell, when she began dating Brock, she was questioning her sexuality with a female friend. Oh no, possible bisexuality.
Like, what are you?

Speaker 1 A reality, a 50 year old reality star on like real housewives where they're like oh my god a bisexual

Speaker 2 she had like met this girl and they become like really good friends and then they had like made out and then their whole thing was that they would like they would go out and then they'd like make out and stuff like that but then when she started dating brock they like made out she was like she told this whole story about like

Speaker 2 And and then like, like my friend, I forget the girl's name. Let's just call her Casey.
I'm saying that because I don't know. I think I saw a Casey somewhere on screen.

Speaker 2 So she's like, so Casey and I like went to Vegas and like it was there to celebrate her for her birthday, but I'd like left my sweater behind.

Speaker 2 And so like Brock, he totally like drove out to Vegas with my sweater just so that he could give me my sweater. And then like I made out with like Casey and then he was like really bothered by that.

Speaker 1 And he was like, don't make out with girls in front of me.

Speaker 2 And like, I never even thought like, oh my God, like that like. it could be bothersome.
And so like, she basically says that she stopped.

Speaker 2 Like, she always thought of Casey as like her friend that she would go to parties with and they would make out.

Speaker 2 But like she realized that like now that she really likes a guy, it's actually insulting to the guy. And she had to tell Casey that they had to have boundaries.

Speaker 2 And then she and Casey, their friendship just kind of fizzled out after that. It was really tragic.
It was a sad story.

Speaker 1 That is, that is huge. And it's, you know what else? It's also a huge bombshell.
So I'm glad she shared that. Another bombshell.

Speaker 1 Andy Cohen allegedly handed Shay a fake court filing from Rachel slash Raquel during the Vanderpump rules.

Speaker 1 People are still calling her Rachel, but I think she went back to Raquel, didn't she?

Speaker 1 Did she she's a very confusing person i thought so but anyway andy cohen allegedly handed her a fake court filing from uh rachel during the vanderpump rules reunion the

Speaker 1 i guess there was one filed but they didn't have it so andy just gave her a prop and tricked her everybody's just tricking sheena guys at all times poor sheena

Speaker 2 The way that they're able to do such easy prop work around Sheena.

Speaker 1 It was a CBS receipt, Sheena. Like you said, all you had to do was look at it.

Speaker 1 She's like, okay, let me read this. Ah, it's like 10 feet long.
Wow.

Speaker 2 I can't believe they bought all these supplies before the court case.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this Taylor says Sheena gives the Kiss Girls to get attention vibes. And I 100% agree with that.
I was saying, oh, my God, I was almost like gay one time.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Michelle says, and well, yeah, Andy's not a process server. So

Speaker 1 chances are he didn't have that when you didn't have it, Gina. Ding dong.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's a silly book. I'm not going to lie.
It's a very, very silly read, but it's also hilarious because it's like, oh, just imagine just sitting with 200 pages of Sheena voice.

Speaker 2 Everything is like, and oh, and here's like a really funny story. Oh, so in the book, she has, she has one moment.
She's talking, you know, she has the first few chapters are about like growing up.

Speaker 2 And she's like, yeah, and I like would get bullied in school because I was like really smart.

Speaker 2 I just wanted to fit in and I wanted to do my makeup like all the other other girls, but they'd make fun of me because I wasn't doing the makeup right and put me into a locker and all that.

Speaker 2 And then I went to college and I did really well in college and I had so much fun in college. I did really good.
I was really good at college, but I wanted to be an actress.

Speaker 2 And then all of a sudden she has a chapter. She goes, wait, guys, hold on.
Before I go any further, let me tell you the craziest story.

Speaker 2 So this one time I was like, I wanted to be a waitress for Hooters. So I went in for the interview and the guy was like, okay, here, like, put on the uniform.
in this trailer. So I put it on.

Speaker 2 Turns out he had a hidden camera and he had actually secretly videotaped all of us Hooter waitresses while we were changing. And there was a class action lawsuit.

Speaker 2 And then they said, then Gloria Allred, yes, Vlog Gloria Allred contacted me and was like, would you speak on behalf of the victims? And I was like, oh my God, because I was so good at testifying.

Speaker 1 They wanted me to speak for all the girls.

Speaker 2 And I really was like, this is like my moment. So like I spoke for all the girls and then he went away to jail.
And hopefully it will never happen again. But anyway, isn't that a crazy story?

Speaker 2 And you're like, what the hell is this chapter that just fell in the middle of Sheena's like? And then here I got ice cream and was covina.

Speaker 1 And I I love that. She's like, I learned how to do makeup.

Speaker 2 And her takeaway was like, I've always wanted to be a performer. I've always wanted to be in front of a camera.
And look, I got to be the one who spoke on behalf of the class action lawsuit.

Speaker 2 Not like, whoa, look at this creepy guy.

Speaker 2 I mean, she does say this guy's a creep, you know, but like, like, her takeaway is not like more introspective than like, wow, it turns out I really do have a natural talent, just like people always told me as a little girl.

Speaker 2 It was amazing.

Speaker 1 And also, I like that she's name-dropping Gloria already. Like, she can't stop name-dropping, even when she's yes, the Gloria already.
I would like

Speaker 1 the best, I would like the best speaker for the victims.

Speaker 2 She name-drops throughout the entire book. At one point, she's like, So, at this one time, I went to a bar with my friend Stacey, and then it goes like hyphen.

Speaker 2 She was the bartender on the hills, and so we went to this club,

Speaker 2 and we had so much fun.

Speaker 2 Thank you, thank you for

Speaker 2 filling in that very important detail that this like tertiary character in a mid to late season of the hills, you went to a club with.

Speaker 1 That's tertiary.

Speaker 1 But good for her, you know, good for her for having a book because I honestly never saw that one coming, and I'll never see it unfolding either.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 good for her.

Speaker 1 So now is the time where we turn the show over to you, dear audience. For everybody just listening on audio, this is it for you.
We're done. But we will be back in a couple of weeks.
So join us then.

Speaker 1 Everybody else, thank you so much for being here. We'll take your calls rest of the night.
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Let's go into the woods with Guy Tubbs. It's our queen.
It's Queen Laifa.

Speaker 2 Nobody holds a candle to Jamie Kendall. Hail the Cork Master, the Master of the Cork, Jennifer Corcoran.
We got our wish. It's Jen Plish.

Speaker 6 She's not harsh. She's Jill Hirsch.

Speaker 2 Knock, knock, knocking on Katie Mannock's door. My favorite Murdoch, Karen McMurdo.
We love him madly. It's Kyle Pod Shadley.
In the study with a candlestick, it's Leslie Peacock.

Speaker 2 We're ride or die for Lisa Ryder-Baron. She's a whiz, it's Liz Sarthe.
Always killing it, it's Lola Alkalani.

Speaker 1 The incredible edible Matthew Sisters. She eases our woes, it's Melissa St.
Rose. There's a chance of meatballs, it's Rebecca Cloud.

Speaker 2 She's the Queen Bee, it's Sarah Lemke.

Speaker 1 We cannot tell a lie, it's Sarah Telefson.

Speaker 2 Shannon, out of a cannon, Anthony. Please don't stop.
It's Solian Pop. Let's take off with Tem Laplain.

Speaker 1 It's always a good time when you're wasting time with Bravo. She ain't no shrinking Violet Koutar.

Speaker 2 We love you guys.

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Speaker 2 Picture this.

Speaker 4 You're standing on the beach when you notice something strange. The horizon doesn't look right.
At first, all you can see is a thin white line stretching as far as your eyes can see.

Speaker 4 Then, the line starts to rise. But it's not the horizon at all.

Speaker 1 It's a wave, a 30-foot wall of water.

Speaker 4 And it's racing straight toward you. On the day after Christmas in 2004, a 9.1 magnitude earthquake hit off the coast of Indonesia, triggering a devastating tsunami.

Speaker 4 It struck Thailand without warning. No alarms, no cell phone alerts, no evacuation.

Speaker 4 In this season of Against the Odds, experience one of the deadliest natural disasters in history through the perspectives of those who did everything they could to survive.

Speaker 4 Follow Against the Odds on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes of Against the Odds Tsunami in Thailand early and ad-free right now on Wondery Plus.