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Well, Elizabeth from Berkeley said, Drew, you seemed upset that Shami and Portia went out to eat with Ralph.

Is that hypocritical when Portia felt it was wrong for you to shoot with Dennis?

And Drew's like, well, I mean, you sat there and you kikied with with someone who is publicly humiliating me unless we're making stakes together who you have seen as behavior portia and i came to your birthday party when we filmed your spin-off remember i went to a birthday party i mean you had free food but i still went and so we see a clip of her going and she's like you know because i cried to you about how ralph left me and portia's like yeah but i thought it was fake so

that's why i thought it was okay to do this Portia was super, Portia and Shamia both were super shitty for doing this.

I mean, Ralph is

who's like stalking her.

You know, he had the hidden cameras, he had the cheating, he had the, all the shit that he's saying online, the coming for her mom.

He's doing really nasty shit to her.

And so, yeah, it would have been more equal if it was Drew bringing Simon on screen, not Dennis.

Well, Portia, Portia says, like, well, I can't keep up with you guys, the lies, and you, but you and him, like, all he's saying is, I don't know, like, you guys, you guys lie, which I think is fair, actually, because you cannot tell with the lies with Drew and Ralph.

But also, I think that this is the moment where Portia should go back to what she said in an earlier episode of the reunion when she said, Yeah, I was just being messy.

That's it.

I was just being messy because you were being messy and I wanted to take a swipe at you.

So I was being messy because that's the truth.

That's the real truth.

Like, yeah, you may not be able to keep up with the lies, but you also know that when you do that, you seed any sort of moral high ground you think you have about the whole Dennis and Drew thing.

So just stop trying to be like, Well, I was justified in doing that.

Just say you were being messy.

Yeah.

So Portia's like, Well, I'm just saying, I think you you guys are in cahoots when it comes to some of the drama you promote.

Which I think,

I mean, I don't know.

It seems like that when you're posting those Instagram videos.

So then Andy's like, well, Brooke from Lynn Heights says, Shamia, why did you set up Portia to meet with Ralph?

To get back a Drew?

You didn't like her calling you a lap dog, but that was lapdog behavior.

And Shamia's like, well, I mean, you know, it was, but, you know, has she called me a lapdog the whole season?

So, okay, well, let me act like a lap dog then.

You want to see a lap dog?

Okay.

So yeah, it was that.

It was.

I don't believe this.

That was a weird, but I did not like, for some reason, I really did not like this response from Shamia.

This seems like, like, you're going to call me a lap dog.

So fine, I'll be a lap dog.

No, you didn't do that like as some sort of strident owning of a criticism.

You did it because you were being, you were being a sincere lapdog.

You were not being lapdog.

You were not being an ironic lapdog in that moment.

You were being an actual lapdog.

Don't try to take ownership of it, ownership of it after the fact.

Like this was some empowerment moment for you.

It was not.

You were just being messy as Mel as Portia.

Yeah.

So Angela,

Shamia's like, yeah, you know, lapdog, lapdog.

So Angela's like, please don't talk about yourself like that.

And Shamiya's like, well, I mean, she keeps saying it, you know, and honestly, for me, I just, I'm feel like I'm being a loyal friend, like you were to her.

And Angela's like, no, but, you know, like,

she goes, no, but I'm too big to sit on anybody's lap.

So that's a difference.

So they all laugh.

And Kelly's like, well, I think we're all loyal friends.

Oh, right.

Okay.

All right.

You've been fighting for 13 hours now about shit that you did to each other.

And he says this, which I thought was funny.

He goes, Twitter said, Drew, this is the first time he just said just the whole platform.

The whole platform Twitter said, Drew, in a recent interview, you admitted to spending, sending flirty texts to Ty, her ex also said that you both spoke for an average of 3,000 minutes a month.

Is this the main reason why you're getting a divorce?

And Drew's like, well, I mean, we have remained, you know, just, you know, we have remained to say that we are friends.

And, but first of all, I think that if you do the math, 3,000 minutes or whatever is really not that much time.

Drew.

3,000 minutes is literally a lot of time.

Like three hour minutes, 3,000 minutes, how many hours is that?

That's what is that?

Five.

It's 50 hours.

You flounder.

Well, then, what are you giving me math?

No, I'm, I wasn't, it was a rhetorical.

It was

3,000 about a half.

Pat, you're so smart.

I mean, I already knew that.

I was just being silent because I was doing it on the calculator.

But yeah, 50 hours.

That's a lot in a month.

50 hours is a lot in a month.

And Phaedra, at first, I was really impressed because Phaedra goes, well, that's about 10 minutes a day.

And I was like, oh my God, look at Phaedra with the on-spot math.

But no, it's not.

If it's a month, it's 50 hours a month.

That's like talking for 90 minutes every day, basically.

A little bit more than that.

In a 31-day month, I'd like to add.

In a 30-day month, I mean, we're just, those stats are just skyrocketing through the money.

You guys can't do this.

You know what happens?

You're getting close to two hours at that point.

You're doing it.

But the point is, like, that's a lot.

Like, I hate talking on the phone.

I have some friends who are like, they're like, Ben, why don't you ever call?

And I'm like, well, first of all, the phone goes two ways, but also I don't want to encourage you to call me because I don't like talking on the phone.

I hate talking on the phone.

I just want to text and send little DMs.

But I have certain friends that I'll talk to.

And then I talk, I mean, I do talk on the phone quite a bit, but I can't do it with everybody.

You know why I don't think I like talking on the phone?

I think because what we do right here is like gabbing on the phone.

Like we're just sitting here gabbing like, and then she said,

I didn't like that.

And you're like, yeah, I liked it.

What?

But I didn't like it.

Well, I liked it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, I have to have meetings with my friends.

Not meet, you know, I have to have specified times where we talk on the phone because, yeah, today I'm not going to talk on the phone.

But, you know, on lighter days, I'll talk, I'll do my three hours with my bestie and stuff.

But yeah, I can't do it every day.

So Shamia is like, wow, I'm married and I don't even talk to my husband for 3,000 minutes.

And Drew's like, did we see a receipt on that?

I mean, people can throw things out, but does that always make it true?

And Andy's like, well, okay.

And then who is black?

And are you dating him?

She's like, he's a friend, a friend.

Now, like I said before he owns the number one hookah company in the country and i am here to give everybody a free hookah everybody gets a free hookah and he's like you know that makes it look like you're banging him because you are now promoting his thing she's like he has lots of friends

this is this is almost as bad of a flex as when kenya sort of dated the guy who had the rest like kill me crazy but i think we called it kill me crazy yes

kill me crazy opened in weo for all of six months and it closed.

Like literally, it did not last, I don't think, more than six months.

Well, they should have called it Kale Me by Your Name if they're going to open it in Weho, you know, like give it some game.

I know.

We need to have Misha on and do an episode about Kale Me Crazy in Weho.

Talk about the big flop

to just talk about like the life and times of a fast casual Kale restaurant.

But

so then Drew goes about and starts,

you know, he starts, she starts basically handing out hookah gifts to everyone.

She gets out everyone these tiny little hookahs, little baby hookahs or vapes, I should say.

And no one looks particularly impressed, you know?

Yeah.

Like this is the housewives where you give out things that have diamonds on them.

You don't give out things that you could find in like a store in Times Square.

Drew's like, I'm dating a paperclip here.

Everybody hears a paperclip.

Drew handing out vapes or like little pipes as if this is like the height of luxury on Bravo is so Drew Sedora.

I mean, this is why I really vacillate between being like, oh my God, I can't stand Drew, but also like, I like love, I think Drew is so, like, has become the perfect housewife because she's so delusional.

And she's so, she's so, she's so upwardly mobile and yet

very stagnant at the same time.

You know?

Yeah.

Okay.

Well, Masa Pussy from Cambridge says, Drew, if you were dating someone, why don't you just come clean in order to shut down rumors about you wanting the hot dog man?

And she's like, oh my god, Dennis is not my type.

I mean, if you know my type, I mean, look at Ralph.

I like flat-headed men, or I'm sorry, triangle-headed men with really good physiques.

And Portia's like,

yeah,

black's not all that either, baby.

I said, oh, now you're coming for my friend.

Now you're calling my hook a friend fat.

She's like, well, you're coming for my friend.

She's like, and he's like, well, if you were dating someone, would you bring them on the show?

Absolutely.

And when I have a boyfriend, I will be so happy to share who that boyfriend is.

And Portia's like, or a girlfriend.

She's like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

And Porsche's like, no, we know, honey, I know, come on.

So they start joking about like, oh, bring them out, bring them out, you know.

So Andy's like, oh, yeah.

So Drew's like, well, Porsche has been dating too, and I have receipts.

And she's dating a, like an African guy in Buckhead.

And Portia's like, oh, really?

Well, we all know I love my Africans.

That could be true.

So next we move on to

the guy.

The boys.

Here they come.

The guys are here.

Ralph.

Ralph.

Ralph comes in and he's like, says hi to Cynthia.

She's like, don't sit next.

Don't sit behind me.

I don't want to be in the shit show.

All right.

Welcome back.

Hey, guys.

Well, this hodgepodge reunion continues with a scattering of men.

We've got...

Dennis, the hot dog guy.

Ralph and Charles Oakley.

Cool.

So he's like, so, Dennis, you and Porsche are not even matching tonight.

Porsche's like, yeah, like I sent you a picture.

And Dennis, Dennis is wearing like a red plaid blazer.

I actually kind of like it, believe it or not.

I wasn't, I wanted to hate it, but I secretly liked it.

And then Andy doesn't like that Shamia's husband didn't come.

And she's like, he's staying at home with our children.

He's like, couldn't get a babysitter?

And she's like, oh, yeah, this isn't really his thing, Andy.

So

and then we go to Charles, who's the enforcer, but he's just here to support his wife.

Okay, guys?

Yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

Um, so, uh, Andy's like, all right, let me start with Dennis.

Can you clear this up?

Did you talk to Porsche about working with Drew?

And he's like, we had a small conversation, but you know, I talked to Ralph first because that's my brother.

So I'd assume that Drew would handle this, handle the woman's side.

You guys, you know, men can talk to women.

We are allowed to do these things.

You are allowed to tell the lady

that

is also

the mother of your child.

Like your business dealing.

You are allowed to do this.

The fact that he's like, yeah,

I talked to Ralph and I wanted Drew to tell Porsche.

I mean,

what sort of bullshit is this?

This classic dentist, I forgot how slippery he is, too, like a boiled hot dog himself.

Boys talk to boys and girls talk to girls.

And Force is calling him out.

She's like, oh, really?

Oh, really?

So

you didn't talk to Drew.

And he's like, Well, you know,

and she goes, So, you're saying that you asked me about it?

And he goes, Well, we talked about working together.

She goes, And you told me?

And he's like, Well, we didn't have an in-depth conversation because I felt like it was Drew's place to clear that up because you know, boobs, you know, only you have boobs, she has boobs.

So, Drew's like, But you told me you talked to Portia because I was expressing to you that I was trying to call Portia and have a conversation.

And you said we had a conversation, and she's good.

All right.

Well, Dennis, when you, when you confronted about, when confronted about mentioning that Drew wanted to sleep with you in exchange for music, which is the saddest indecent proposal of all time, sleeping with a hot dog guy to get a hit single, you kind of dodged up by owning, by saying that.

Like, did you tell Portia that Drew wanted to sleep with you?

And so Dennis is like, no, absolutely not.

I definitely did not.

So Portia's like, well, what was the text then, Dennis?

He's like, no, the text read, I'm trying to get some money and Drew wants to fuck me.

That's all I wrote.

So clearly, I don't know what you guys are hearing when I say that, but there was nothing about her wanting to have sex with me.

And she's like, the text said, I'm trying to get money.

I'm not trying to fuck.

That's what the text said, verbatim.

And

so Drew's like, yeah, but that for the record was not from me.

And she goes, okay, well, now he's denying it, which is just basically kind of what we knew this whole season.

They're fighting over something that's Dennis's fault, basically.

Yep.

Dennis just hoped he wouldn't get called by trying to get attention off of yet another housewife.

So he's like, well, you know, Ralph's my friend in real life.

So to insinuate a music, a relationship outside of music is just ridiculous.

And she's like, okay, well, then what you were responding to when you said, I don't want anybody.

And he's like, I don't even know if the text said that.

She's like, we just showed the texts.

So.

So Ralph's like, well, just exactly what Portia said.

You know, I didn't know exactly what the relationship relationship was, but to me, you know, it just became a little weird just because, you know, Drew had mentioned like that she was like, I don't know, like, she was like trying to holler at her.

So like, I don't know.

And Drew is like, no, I never did this.

And Ralph's like, I promise.

I promise in everything.

That's what it said.

I promise.

She was trying to do that.

Drew's like, no, you're not going to come on here and start lying.

He's like, no, no, no.

I'm being totally sincere.

I'm a good guy, everyone.

I'm Ralph, America's favorite, Ralph.

I'm not going to lie about it.

I would never lie.

I'm Ralph.

I never lie.

So she's like, well, then this has never been inappropriate.

I've i've never said that to you and he's like you never said that and she goes yeah so for you to say that out of your lying face i cannot wait to make pancakes with you later on camera and he's like i don't lie i don't lie that's that's one thing i'm not doing ralph you fucking lie all the time have you forgotten that you've been on camera for years lying now years sir

You come on, come on, Ralph.

You come on here and you got dressed up all in your white.

You got your fade clean.

You know, you want to come here for the cameras.

And every time you come here, I do the same thing.

You lie, and then you play victim.

It's not cute, bro.

And if you're don't, if you don't quiet up soon, I'm gonna have to sing a song to your face again.

Oh, God, I wish she did.

Basement,

you're in the basement with my heart.

So she's like, get on.

Oh, you're going to get all this smoke.

That's what you came here for.

And he's like, all right, every time.

Come on now.

I love when she goes, ta.

I want her to do that more.

Ta.

So, so Andy's like, Dennis, do you see yourself getting back together with Porsche?

All of zero people in America care about this.

And Dennis is like, I mean, you know, I really love Portia and she's back on the market.

So you never know.

And they're like, ha,

ha, ha.

I'm like, please, no more Dennis, please.

So what does he feel that he's friends with Gerald and that Shimi and Porsche have trouble?

And he's like, well, you know, I stay out of women's business, which is hilarious because he's literally starting.

women's business drama to get on TV all year.

But he's like, you know, Gerald has a penis, so I talk to him.

But I stay out of the women's business because they'll probably be friends tomorrow so i'm not getting into true yeah sort of true too so then what about the allegations that he took britt on a date and bought her a chain and also slid into kelly's dms and he's like okay well i heard what kelly said but she didn't say the other half but that's all good and she's what was the other half and he's like well uh you know brit was a long time ago before i was running around with portia and shamia's like no what was the other half and kelly's like yeah I'm still waiting.

And he goes, well, I'm a gentleman.

So that's all good.

She goes, oh, stop it.

Let's be clear.

We never did anything or talked on the phone.

You might have called once or twice.

And Angela's like, oh, that is talking on the phone.

And Andy's like, yeah, you said you never talked on the phone.

She goes, well, once or twice, I mean, like, he called me, like, are you outside?

No, I'm inside.

You know, stuff like that.

And Andy's like, what does that mean?

Yeah, it basically was like on a business level, they coordinated some things like, oh, I'm here.

So then why, oh, that's fine, but then why did you go on camera and act like he crawled into your DMs if like the extent of their relationship?

Yeah,

exactly.

Yeah, if the extent of your relationship was just coordinating like chafers or something, you know?

I mean, look, here's just another example of Kelly.

You know, you're up here, you're with Dennis, and you look like the untrustworthy one now.

And that's crazy.

That is extreme untrustworthiness.

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How do you feel about that are you joining her cause he's like no that's not even true it's not she's like really it's not true no it's not true at all okay there never was a woman but there was a woman and okay so she came to the house but she only came through the gate but she didn't come into the house but she came into the house i mean she came to the basement but she wasn't in the house she was outside but in the basement and upstairs too and i brought her around the kids but i never brought around the kids stop saying i'm a liar And Andy's like, so she was outside with Kelly.

That's pretty good.

And Ralph's like, no, no, no, it wasn't that.

You know, we're working on a fitness program.

You know, it was about fitness programs of stepfathers who adopt their stepsons.

So they call me daddy in the kitchen.

Yeah, it was just about that.

With the kindergarten.

Let me just say this.

Let me just say this.

If someone wants to twinkle something on the keys, okay, when these cameras are off, you know, you love me, Drew.

You know what I'm saying?

And you got this, you got this on-camera, off-camera thing, and that's really confusing me.

And at the end of the day, man, I love you.

And I'm not here to be your enemy.

I just want to make sure we raise beautiful kids on camera.

I just don't understand why every time I just try to be a good person and then Drew drags me out here to make me look like a liar or a bad person.

It's just me, Ralph, who only wants to be good.

Good to women, good to families.

Me, Ralph, the good one.

I'll make love to you like you want me to.

I'll be by your side.

I'll write you a manifesto.

Come on, Drew, take me back.

So, So, um, Shamia's like, well, we were mad at you before you came out.

And, um, and Andy's like, yeah, we saw you feeding Drew's steak.

And he's like, well, that's how we are when there's no cameras.

You know, that's how we are.

We're just happy.

You know, I got choo-choo steak into our mouth.

You know, I hashtag things, daddy.

That's just how it is.

Drew's like, I mean, those are great words and I appreciate it.

But like, you know, I would also love it if you could back up those words because like the energy that, you know, that I have because of the press tour that you've been on, that's where my energy is coming from because you've been tweeting things about my mom and my dad and even my cousin Michael Michael Jordan.

And like, I mean, there's not been an apology.

And Ralph's like, yeah, but you hugged me.

You hugged me, which shows that you're not really mad about the fact that I said your mom needs to keep her mouth shut.

And Andy's like, um, but do you want to maybe apologize?

Have you apologized?

Are you going to apologize?

He's like, no, I mean, I will.

I mean, I was there.

Look, I was there when they were in a place where they lost everything.

And I was like, I was there to pick up the pieces.

And

as I always told my children, when someone loses everything, you go onto Twitter and you say, shut your fucking mouth about you you complaining about me because I helped you that's what the that's what the noble thing is to do

and Cynthia's like well I would like to add Ralph be mindful of what you put on social media because it brings everybody else into it so just say that countertops hashtag call me countertops

she's really bringing some like big fortune cookie cookie energy be careful what you say because it may come around it cracks me up every time they cut to cynthia they're like cynthia please just sit there and nod your head and say wise things every once in a while.

She's like, okay, got it.

Got it.

I got it.

So Ralph is, Ralph is basically like, well, I used to have a beautiful relationship with Drew's mom and I want to get back to there.

And I will apologize.

I will.

Okay.

It was the easiest thing to, how about just don't say it in the first place?

So now we move to Charles.

So how does he think Angela did?

And he's like, you know, she did great.

She cried a couple of times, but just, you know, like I said, honey, you know, you jumped in the pool.

You got to know how to swim.

And he's like, okay, well, there, it looks like you hate your wife on TV.

So what's that about?

Do you look like you hate her fucking guts?

What's that about?

Yeah.

And he's like, well, you know, I'm her husband and I, you know, I give her back.

And, you know, I have her back through thick and thin, but I'm just like, not, I'm not someone who like really likes to show that shit, like, whatever, you know?

And so Andy's like, well, people didn't know you were married.

So what's up with that?

Are you hiding your wife?

And he's like, no, I don't hide my wife.

I i don't know i don't know who's married either i hear it all the time so you don't hide her but you don't tell anybody that you're married is that what you're saying and he's like well a lot of people they don't know me but they you know you know shamia i just met for the first time on the show but she said she was at uh dominique wedding and i was there and she goes shamia's like well i met you several times he goes where She goes, well, you might not know me.

I mean, obviously you're a legend, but, you know, you're at Neek's wedding.

And he goes, but you didn't meet me.

I was there, but that's not meeting me.

he kept saying this to everyone and I I love that his energy was like just like who are you people

he's like why are we why are you talking to me right now I'm just here because my wife asked me to I don't need this bullshit please stop trying to come for me because I can destroy all of you and I don't need any of you and I really don't care what you say about me I think it's annoying that he's like no you don't really know me so what you met me that doesn't mean you know me she said she met you She doesn't say she knows you.

Like, why are you acting like it's like, it's this huge thing to have met you before?

He's like, you've never met me.

How dare you?

Because he's probably dealt with like a lot of fakers who are like, oh, my God.

Like, you know, you meet someone once and they're like, oh, my God, I'm totally friends with Charles Oakley.

And he's like, I don't know you.

But in this case, what was actually funny is that he was actually wrong because they show pictures of him, like pictures of him and Shamia, like they at a wedding.

So they definitely did meet.

Or him and Gerald, right?

Yeah.

Well, no, there's both.

Well, I think Shamia was in one of the pictures, I think.

But either way, I did like, I just liked how flummoxed they were by him because it's like the, like they're trying to be like, well, we know each other.

And he's just like, we were in the, we were in a room together, but we didn't actually meet.

They like didn't know how to deal with it.

And they were all kind of like stumbling like, but, but, but, but, but we, but we know you.

He's like, no, I don't remember you.

So Angela was like, uh, Shamia's like, well, I met you at my party and I met your husband, you know, NBA at the game.

And I said, hey, but I never

said something like, I met you, but I don't know you or something like that.

She goes, but I wasn't digging at you.

And Anne's just like, well, I felt like it was a dig because you said all these years I knew Charles, I never knew he had a wife.

So I'm like, how could you know he's married if he doesn't know you?

And Shamiya's like, but I have met him.

And she goes, okay, but you don't know him.

And she's like, okay.

So Andy says, Charles, do you remember meeting Phaedra?

And he's like, no.

And so Phaedra, he's at, Phaedra's asked where they met.

And she's like, well, I mean, I've been in several rooms with him.

And he's like, okay.

So one of those rooms could have been a bathroom.

What do I know?

I don't know her.

I do not know this person.

She's like, not in the same bathroom.

So

Charles is like, I don't know.

I don't care.

So Pedro's like, well, I know Sheree very well.

And I remember when y'all were a couple at one point, which somehow I actually didn't know that, by the way.

And he's like, yeah.

He's like, okay, we were a couple.

That doesn't mean you know me, though.

I mean, me and Sheree were a couple.

And Pedro's like, I know you were a couple.

She goes, well, why do people say they know us personally?

Because I know Sheree.

She's like, what I'm saying is I have been in your presence on numerous occasions.

He's like, where?

With Sheree.

So it's like

the conversation whether I'm married or not.

Like, everyone here wants to know about me.

Well, what about you all?

I'm only husband here.

Where are y'all husbands at?

Where are y'all husbands?

That was great.

I mean, actually, it got away from the point, which was that like, okay, Phaedra may have met Charles or may have known about Charles, but she did go on camera acting like she goes way back with Charles and never and he never talks about having a wife.

And like they all kind of like spoke like they had more proximity to him than they really do.

And so that's why he's like, what's wrong with you people?

Well, I think a lot of what they're saying, because even Angela, when she, Angela and Charles, right now, when they talk about their marriage, which is coming up, but when they, I think everybody's saying like this, Charles is cheating and doing all sorts of stuff around town.

Like.

And then you meet Angela and she's like bragging that she's his wife or whatever.

And you're like, oh, Charles Oakley, like I've I've been around Charles Oakley and nobody, like if someone says, I've been around this person and you would never know they have a wife, that insinuates that that person's been like in the streets, right?

Which I think was the insinuation, which is what he's getting at.

He's like, so what is this conversation?

But no one's going to say because he's too famous, I think.

No one is going to just say, well, you've clearly been cheating on her over and over again for years, sir.

That's why we're saying it.

Like, what are you not understanding?

It's not about trying to pretend that we're your best friends.

We're saying Angela's acting like she has this happy marriage when her husband's blatantly cheating on her for all of these years in public, right?

Yeah, and like he's too famous, and he also clearly doesn't want to play any games, so they're like a little like they're sort of like don't know how to approach him, which is, I think, I think that's the articulation of why I was amused because they didn't like they know how to deal with what they didn't have the guts to do it, they had the guts to insinuate it, but when it came down to it, they're like, I'm saying nothing, okay, thank you.

But and you know what I thought was genuinely funny was when Charles was like, Where's where are all your husbands?

And Boris is like, I actually genuinely don't know where my husband is.

So then Andy asks about Sheree, and I guess they did it back in 2005, like a long time ago.

So it was pre-Charae, even on Bravo.

And Angel's like, and Sheree is not desperate and doesn't pretend like she's still with my husband, like other people.

And Andy's like, okay, well, you know, a lot of people talking about the outside baby.

Let's talk about outside babies.

And he's like, where else do you have babies?

I mean, if you had a baby and it stayed inside, it would never grow up.

And if it did grow up, it would kill the mother because you can't hold an adult in your stomach.

Yeah.

Well, you know what?

All this talk about babies.

Where's everyone's babies?

Like, okay, Charles.

So then he says,

he's just asking where things are.

That's what he's going to do from now on.

He says that Wendy Williams had a cook off for charity because this is Charles's thing.

He cooks.

He's like, wait, I can cook for 400 people.

I'm in.

So

then Angela, he sort of retreads the whole story, how Angela talked to Wendy, and then Wendy misinterpreted and brought it to her show and made it a whole big thing

and turned the whole story around.

And then Angela is saying like, you know, like, yeah, Charles has a side baby and the story's out there.

And by the way, Charles, tell them about the time Wendy invited you over for dinner.

And he's like, oh, yeah.

She's like, you want to come over, have some wine?

But she had a cat.

and I was allergic to cats.

So I couldn't go.

That's the story.

And Angela's like, wait, so if she had it, she didn't have a cat, you would have went.

And he's like, well, I'm, I drink wine.

So, and she's like, but you're saying you would have gone on a date.

And he goes, well, I would have had a glass of wine.

And is that a date?

Is that a date?

And he's like, um, I mean, I don't know.

And he's like, I said I would have a glass of wine.

And she goes, but that's a date.

He goes, okay, then whatever you want to call it.

She goes, oh, God.

Well, Angela, you brought up the story.

Why is she bringing up a story that she's, she's like, oh, tell him that good story.

And she's acting like she's never heard it before.

I think she, it keeps backfiring.

I think she wanted him to be like, yeah, she's coming after me.

Like, I had all these side babies, but then she's trying to date me.

But then it turns into like, well, I would have gone.

So then Andy asks about Mass Square Garden and they talk about how that, you know, he, Charles talks about how he was really frustrated with that.

And they say it was a strain on the relationship, but then they started therapy and it's been really helpful.

And he's just like really happy that Angela stayed strong with him and then Shamia

was interesting I thought because the way they phrased it she said okay he got kicked out of Madison Square Garden and this is a man with a gigantic ego and I think he started with all these other women you know there were all these other women because he needed to feed his ego basically so she's like so I was out of there which kind of goes back to lending the things that the other ladies were saying it lends it credence right so then Shamia tries to be funny and she's like, well, so just to be clear, you would take Wendy Williams for a glass of wine, not Wendy the therapist.

And they put this poor therapist up on screen.

Like, can you not make this lady the butt of a joke when she's here just trying to help these two people, like, you know, figure out their emotional states?

But I like that Charles didn't get it.

It's all about Wendy the Therapist.

I like that Charles didn't get it at all.

And he goes, no, they're two different people.

He really did not get it.

He gets upset.

Like, you think I'm going to Wendy Williams for fucking therapy?

Really?

He's like, but but wendy the therapist does have a cat in case you didn't see her photo in case it wasn't clear from her photo

um

so

basically they're talking about going to therapy and how much it helps and so andy's like okay before i let the guys go anyone else want to say or clear up anything else from the season and kelly's like well i would like to know what my ex-husband told you ralph

you know, getting on Ralph for apparently hanging out with this dude.

And he's like, well, I mean, you know, the circumstances of his divorce, you know, I mean, it was nothing else to share.

She's like,

I appreciate that.

I appreciate it.

What do you appreciate?

What did he say?

How could that response ever like engender appreciation?

She's like, and let me just tell you this.

I think it's amazing that you, Drew, that you still have a man and a husband that wants to take care of his children.

I don't have that.

Just a reminder that I don't have a man in my life.

I only have these bangles.

And that's it.

Okay.

So I'm the real victim here, everyone.

Anyone want to pay attention to me?

Yeah, Kelly's like, I may not have a lot in this reunion, but I do have the worst divorce of the season.

Can we cement that?

Thank you.

Yes.

Can we lock that in, please?

So Ralph

somehow makes it through a reunion by looking like the best guy up there.

So thanks a lot, ladies.

Ralph's a piece of crap.

Okay.

I thought Charles came off the best.

I thought Charles came off better than Ralph did.

Yeah, but I mean,

they're making Ralph seem like a fucking hero after all of this.

Charles, I just

perplexed.

It was weird that the women were kind of like

nice to Ralph.

They were like, what the fuck are you doing?

They all come from saying Ralph.

Yeah.

So, okay, bye, guys.

Get out of here.

So

now we're backstage and,

you know, just like some wacky backstage stuff.

Shamia passes Charles and she's, you know, we write.

And he goes, now I do.

Like, not amused.

And then we go back to the reunion and we're back.

And

yeah, I want to end by talking talking about your time i am

and drew is like well you know for me most definitely like the thing that made me happy being in a better place with portia because i think today we hurt each other but like and we found our way back to some apologies and some healing so i appreciate the accountability and the grace that we're extending to one another and if i ever were to write a manifesto it would be about my love for portia thank you very much america And Kelly's like, well, you know, we, this group of girls, I mean, we're just going through a journey.

And I really hope and pray for Shamia and P because, you know, I had a friendship like this with Britt.

And you were friends with Britt for five minutes.

Can we not?

Yeah.

She's like, I had the other main relationship in this show that went sour this season.

And as someone on the other side of it, I hope you two can make it because I'm still crushed by my best friend of all time, Britt, who I knew for three minutes.

Do as I say before film.

Don't do as I do.

Let me be an example to everyone here about divorce and friendship.

I died for your sins, everyone.

Yeah, Phaedra had the best two weeks ever.

She had the best trip she's ever had.

So they all cheer for that.

And then Angela's turn.

And Angela, you know, she really is grateful for her Fangelas.

And she just was grateful she got to shoot with her mom because that's a cool thing to always have.

And then Cynthia, Cynthia, give us some guidance, Cynthia.

And she's like, well, I just, I didn't know what I was expecting to come back, but it has been great nodding a lot.

And I want to say,

shout out to all the Fantheas, or should they call them Cynthian's,

Cynthia Ann Army Rise Up.

Thanks so much, everyone.

So Shamia is like, well, I was so open with my feelings.

And I hope that moving forward, you will all go to my Instagram to watch an apology video that has tinkly piano music on it.

And he's like, okay, Portia, you've got 20 minutes for your final monologue.

And she gets it.

I've had rough seasons on this show before, but none this transformative.

I mean, honestly, to be able to sit and watch yourself not be at your best.

And I don't blame anyone but me, but mainly Shamia too.

And honestly, I don't even blame myself.

I pretty much blame Shamia.

But I have to say, as a woman sitting up here with other divorcees, and I think arguably having the worst divorce of the season, we can all agree.

Sorry, Kelly.

I just have to say, thank God that I'm sitting here with my right mind.

And you know, to Shamia, I really hate the way the season went.

I hate.

that you got so swallowed up by fame that you became awful.

I continue to love you and your daycare stealing mother.

I continue to cheer for you.

Maybe not your mother's daycare, but I cheer for you.

So I put a button on that by saying I love everybody that are on on these couches except for Shamia.

Yeah, she goes, oh, and also I brought a fan so we can teach Andy to fan dance.

And so they do like a line dance with Andy and that's it.

And then Andy twerks, which yeah.

I don't know that anybody needed that, but wow, what a season.

Some real boots on the ground.

Yeah, this, yep, it's over.

It's over.

It's over, everybody.

We did it.

I think looking back now, we realize this actually could have just been one super size reunion.

One episode, one super size episode, and we could have been in and out.

But it's done.

And,

you know, I'm looking forward to next season.

I think that they put some good building blocks in there.

And I think we're going to, I think, I think we're just, you know,

it's a rebuilding season for

Atlanta.

It's like our favorite sports teams that sometimes you have a championship team and sometimes you just have a rebuilding season.

That's where we are.

Looking forward to seeing what happens next time around.

All right, everybody.

Thanks for being with us.

We'll talk to you next time.

Bye.

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