#2936 RHOA S16E19 Part 2: Junebug Don’t You Lose My Number

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So Andy's like, all right, Judy from Judy Town says, Shamia, do you think Portia gave Phaedra a pass too early?

Speaker 1 Considering that she sat back while Phaedra tried to make you look like community property.

Speaker 1 So whoever this person was,

Speaker 1 they are definitely a producer on the show, right? Because I'm guarantee with everything that happened with Candy and Phaedra and that whole season and everything, no one is thinking like, oh.

Speaker 1 How Shamia was done dirty by that. Who is remembering that at all? Like that was such a random like, thing.

Speaker 1 Actually, I should say, I remember it as a random thing. Maybe it wasn't as random as I remember it, but I don't remember it being a very central part of that storyline.

Speaker 1 I don't really remember any Shamia thing from the past being that big of a deal, except for the Carmen and Candy, you know, scene that we see later. I remember that pretty clearly.

Speaker 1 But most Shamia storylines, I don't remember. I do remember the wedding one, but that's kind of the only one that I remember.

Speaker 1 I honestly didn't remember the Carmen scene, to be honest. But that says more about me than it does about actually the show.
I just don't remember anything anymore.

Speaker 1 Well, flashback to 2017 when Phaedra is accusing everyone of sleeping with Shamia's husband or Shamia sleeping with everybody or something. So Andy's like, did you ever resolve it? I mean, God, 2017,

Speaker 1 that was like yesterday. Am I right?

Speaker 1 So Shamia is like, well, I've never sat down with them. And Portia's like, yeah, but we talked about it because I'm your best friend.
So we resolved it. And Phaedra's like, well, let's clear it up.

Speaker 1 You know, it was hurtful to me when I heard you kept bringing it up in interviews because we're on a good page. And Shamia is like, well, now we are.

Speaker 1 And she goes, well, I decided to come back to the show and we had this conversation. Do you remember? And Shamiya is like, yes, I remember.

Speaker 1 But what I'm saying is you dismissed it and you said me and Candy were going through something. And they're like, you never addressed me and the things that were said about me.

Speaker 1 So Phaedra was like, well, so why didn't you address it? I mean, we were having a private conversation. We could have talked about it.

Speaker 1 And Shamia's like, well, you know what, we never had a conversation that you put these things out there. And so then Andy's like, are you upset about it?

Speaker 1 Shamia's like, no, no, I mean, I'm totally not upset at all. And I was like, you're clearly upset because this happened years ago and you're still talking about it.

Speaker 1 And you're still obviously, we can see your face. You're upset, you know? You're like, you brought it up at the Pampered event with Portia.
So they're like, just

Speaker 1 what Shamia is getting into trouble for here, and I think it's valid, is that Shamia acts like everything's fine. And then she goes on interviews and disses everybody.
And they're like, what the hell?

Speaker 1 Like, I thought we were fine. And she's like, well, I had the right to talk about that.

Speaker 1 It's like, yeah, but if you want to make that a storyline to make it a storyline on the show like why are you saving it for the breakfast club every time you know yeah and then when we confront you about it you're like no things are fine everything's fine yeah well because she's always gonna say i was trying to like preserve the peace in the group but then she's uh harboring all these feelings and they just come bubbling out i wouldn't know wouldn't know anything about that so uh portia is basically like they basically like you have to like address this finally and shamia's like well i'm gonna dumb down like the shit y'all said because of my it's my way of coping and like it's my way of laughing it off and like that's a problem you have to like let it out let it out so they finally like vaidra apologizes and she's you know and they basically like let's just move forward and it seems like she kind of gets

Speaker 1 she says well i'm sorry but just well you can't apologize with a butt she's like okay

Speaker 1 are we done now she's like is this are you accepting my apologies or are you not she's like yes i will accept your apology this time.

Speaker 1 We're moving forward. And when we're asked about it, I'll say she apologized and we move past it.
And Cynthia's just like, another one,

Speaker 1 another one.

Speaker 1 Where's the wear?

Speaker 1 So they now break for lunch. So some of the guys come in.
Ralph shows up. Yeah, Ralph.
I mean, Ralph's so thirsty for, I mean, like.

Speaker 1 So thirsty. He's getting divorced from Drew.
He is relegated to the basement, but he's not going to show up before the cameras. You know,

Speaker 1 He cannot resist. And Dennis is there.
He's there in his skin-tight shirt. So

Speaker 1 there's a big question. And this is probably a rhetorical question because I don't expect you to have the answer.
But so that clip of Phaedra was Phaedra saying, and you're sleeping with everybody.

Speaker 1 You're like, you're like fucking around all over town and everybody knows it. That was what that clip was, basically.

Speaker 1 And then Britt's clip that they showed was Britt telling her, and you're sleeping around all the time and you're married. You're married, Shamia.
So why are these accusations eight years apart?

Speaker 1 Was that just Britt jumping on something that was said on the past that she's trying to like harpoon? Yes, 100%.

Speaker 1 Or is that something real? Like is Shamia in some kind of open relationship that people keep hinting at, but we're never talking about?

Speaker 1 No, I don't know, but I'm just never going to give Britt any sort of credibility to having a rumor that has anything based in fact. I think Britt did her research.

Speaker 1 She watched her seasons and she like took notes on like what ammo she's going to use when she needs it.

Speaker 1 honestly although to be fair like she probably didn't even do that she probably was just like this is an easy thing for me to say and so i'm going to say it i'm never going to give britt any sort of credibility for having anything close to accurate in anything she says okay

Speaker 1 so um shamia talks to gerald you sent her flowers you know which to me is always a sign of cheating so um that's why i'm asking I think that's why I'm asking.

Speaker 1 And Shamia is like, well, you know, I'm just off my game. And, you know, everybody's everybody's talking over me.
I haven't, I haven't had a chance to say a thing. Yes, you have.

Speaker 1 And every time you do, you're like, but what about me and Portia?

Speaker 1 So you've said a lot. It hasn't been that interesting, but I don't know that you're going to blame everybody else, but she is.

Speaker 1 And so she's like, but when I get out there now, I'm going to finally have a voice. You watch, Gerald.
You just watch. And he's like, okay, well, that's great.

Speaker 1 Great. Love to see it.
So Charles is there. Dennis is there.

Speaker 1 You know, Portia's like, do you have any bombs? He's like, I have no bombs. just a lot of hot dogs, actually.
Okay. And then Shamia is still going off.

Speaker 1 She's telling Kelly, she's like, the gloves are off. I'm not going to let people talk over me.
You're going to hear from me at long last.

Speaker 1 Why is she so surprised that she's being talked over?

Speaker 1 Like, this is not, I feel like this is not her first reunion by any means. But she's like, no, I'm going to say what I need to say because people need to hear about the details about me and Portia.

Speaker 1 i'm like i don't think yeah i think both of us actually don't really care that much

Speaker 1 you do say i think you're said has been your say has been said multiple times and i think it's been said in this reunion i didn't feel like she didn't talk i just felt like it you know i feel like she feels that it's she feels the energy of the room it's like she's sitting in the first seat she should have a lot more going on than she does and she just doesn't and so she's like here we go act two i'm bringing it this time i'm bringing it in act two spoiler alert yeah that doesn't happen it doesn't really happen so um andy we come back we're back okay this season wow it's a long monologue but uh i want to read britt's instagram story today

Speaker 1 as everyone is now aware i am traumatized and i'm suing fucking bravo fuck you guys i'm not going to read it bye

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 um, so Shamia's like, I mean, it's mind-blowing.

Speaker 1 I'm speaking that all this happened and then end up it like not being her but i kind of feel like maybe she already knew that and just played into it because that same night after the event happened we went out and she seemed very happy you know she didn't seem distraught i'm not saying that it's okay but yeah she came back to the group like she was devastated it definitely was very different so she's saying that

Speaker 1 after like she hung out with everyone that night and she was just like

Speaker 1 normal

Speaker 1 Right, which doesn't necessarily mean anything.

Speaker 1 She still may have like, I'll give her credit that she may have needed to process or once it started to become news It became more humiliating if she thought it was just like one thing that was like small and then became like a net thing that got all over the gossip rags fine but i also like

Speaker 1 everyone's read seems to be like yeah she was really trying to play it up so it's hard because you never really want to like blame someone who's the victim of what kenya was trying to do because what kenya was trying to do was really really terrible but brit has also shown herself to be terrible but then again there's the whole perfect victim thing like you don't have to be perfect to still be a victim so i don't know I mean, Britt's still garbage no matter what.

Speaker 1 It's not really helping Shamia that

Speaker 1 she and Candy both were, you know, in trouble for liking a pro Diddy being like a pro Diddy is free now. Thank God, Diddy's free.
And they were like, oh, yes, you know. And they supported that.

Speaker 1 So it's not really helping Shamia much in this. I mean, Shamia, obviously, this was filmed before that post, I think, but it's a time where Shamia might be quiet.

Speaker 1 I didn't realize Shamia also did that. I was surprised that Candy did it.
I was like shocked. But,

Speaker 1 you know. So, Andy.

Speaker 1 Great look.

Speaker 1 So, Brits, Britt was on Watch What Happens live saying Kenya had something against her from the beginning.

Speaker 1 And then we see a clip of the original, the initial party where she met Kenya and Kenya was questioning her rings, which I still don't think was a big deal.

Speaker 1 And don't think Kenya mentioned that I was going to say that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 At worst, it was light shade. Kenya offenses that was not even on the radar for me.

Speaker 1 But Britt's like a perpetual, like, how could you be doing that to me? Really? You didn't even hug me? So, basically,

Speaker 1 Brit's like, Brit's saying that Kenya was coming after me all season long. And everyone's like, Yeah, we didn't really feel that way.

Speaker 1 Like, if you asked, like, like, there was, there was never any indication. And if you asked Kenya, Kenya would have been like, I wasn't coming after her.

Speaker 1 They're all like, yeah, Britt really concocted this, like, in her head a bit. And

Speaker 1 Angela says, you know, that's why I wrote the question at the bank, because I don't think Kenny had any clue that Britt felt this way.

Speaker 1 So that's why it was supposed to be an opportunity for Kenny to explain how she felt. And yeah, it kind of went left.
Oopsies.

Speaker 1 Well, the part I left out when I just shortened that the Instagram thing was Britt claiming that the pictures that were shown on the show weren't even of her.

Speaker 1 So that's kind of what they're talking about. They're like, how is it not even her? I mean, the whole thing is so confusing.

Speaker 1 I'm confused. I still don't understand that whole thing.
So anyway, let's just ignore that and go to how do you like them from apples on Twitter.

Speaker 1 Said, Cynthia, why in hell do you have so much grace and understanding for Brit and zero for Kenya? And I like Cynthia's answer here.

Speaker 1 She's like, that's not true, first of all, but what Kenya did was wrong. I'm not standing up for that.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm sorry, but I'm not going to go publicly stand up for someone who just showed a woman's like porn pictures to the public and made sure to do it in front of all the news outlets and all that shit.

Speaker 1 That was low, and I'm not going to do that. Sorry.
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 And Portia's saying, what I like that, like, you know, Portia explains also a little bit more about it and

Speaker 1 saying how, like, you know, Kenya's a loose Kenyan, but that doesn't really excuse any of it. Right.
But basically, they get to a place where they're like, you know what?

Speaker 1 Like, we're, Porsche's like, I was pissed. I wasn't sad.
I was pissed that she did this.

Speaker 1 And, you know, I really like that she said that because it's basically like Kenya not only like messed up her, like messed up what she was doing with the show and everything.

Speaker 1 And it was, it was wrong what Kenya did, but she also kind of like messed up the show. Like the show kind of like stumbled after that.
And this is supposed to be like their comeback show.

Speaker 1 And a lot of it was like a lot of, a lot of focus was on Portia and how she was coming back. And like she kind of like, Portia took a lot of blame for people who were like, oh, Portia's a flop.

Speaker 1 Portia's a flop. And maybe she was.
And I don't think she was really a flop, but she wasn't like,

Speaker 1 she didn't save the show.

Speaker 1 But again, as I've said, like, umpteen times, I think it's because the show, the show started the season with great energy, but I think it couldn't find its bearings after this whole scandal.

Speaker 1 So, you know, I think she had every right to be pissed.

Speaker 1 Kenya really messed things up for a lot of people, like an entire production staff. An entire economy.
An entire economy. People's jobs.

Speaker 1 Andy's like, you know, well, I will say this. There was an investigation surrounding the threat that Britt made relating to the gun.
And there was also one relating to what Kenya did.

Speaker 1 And Shamia's like, well, I mean, that's not even our fight. Okay, Shamia, I know you're trying to have a voice, but not now.

Speaker 1 I want to hear this investigation because we never get to the bottom of this. And he's kind of cut off and then never comes back to it.
And I want to know what the investigation found.

Speaker 1 You need to tell me because I hear about these Bravo investigations all the time. They could have a new law and order based on Bravo investigations at this point.

Speaker 1 There's so many goddamn episodes worthy. So tell me what happened.
But he's cut off. I'm like, goddamn.

Speaker 1 Well, because,

Speaker 1 well, no, because

Speaker 1 cut off because Portia said that like what had happened was that Kenya Moore had received incriminating photos of Brit or information, I'm sorry, information about Brit's past.

Speaker 1 And then so then Kenya went and looked and was able to find all these photos. So Shamia's like, yeah, yeah, wait, can we go back to that? Which cast member gave you that information?

Speaker 1 And Portia's like, well, Drew sent her the information.

Speaker 1 And Drew's like, what?

Speaker 1 What? I never heard that, that I was the one. What? I don't like my nibs.

Speaker 1 Drew, you literally, we saw you have dinner with Britt and Britt said she did webcam and you said, did you ever like give up the kitty or whatever it was that she said? You're the one who knew.

Speaker 1 You knew, Drew. Yeah, did you sell the kitty? Drew's such a liar.
And for her to, it's hilarious because I don't know why, but Drew just makes me laugh. Like, I don't even care that she's lying.

Speaker 1 I was cracking up because she's like, what?

Speaker 1 Me? I've never even heard that. Really, all the blogs have been lit all season saying that Drew got the picture.
She got some pictures from Ming Li, who used to also date whoever.

Speaker 1 I said it earlier in the season. I forgot.
They used to have the same boyfriend, the same boyfriend a long time ago. So Ming Li got all these pictures off his phone or something.

Speaker 1 And Ming Li was the one who sent them to Drew and Drew shared them. So that's been a huge piece of gossip in all the blogs.
So for Drew to be like, what? I never heard that. I was the one.

Speaker 1 Oh, you liar, please. So Porsche's like, yeah, you said it to me.
And she goes, no, she said publicly publicly and to me that she got it from a private investigator. A private investigator.

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Speaker 1 so yeah they basically portion just going on and on about it and she says that she spoke to kenya that night and kenya was like very remorseful and she says i was pissed at kenya kenya feels terrible for what she did etc and cynthia said cynthia's like and you know it's just really sad because uh that's pretty much the last time i even talked to kenya She just stopped taking my calls.

Speaker 1 But why are you chasing after Kenya's friendship? She's done you dirty so many times, Cynthia. Move on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm kind of glad that she she has because I feel like the old Cynthia would keep calling her until it worked out and try and make her sign some kind of friendship contract or some shit.

Speaker 1 So it was kind of nice to see her just be sad that it's over, you know? Yeah. And she's like, well, I'm the only one that she doesn't speak to.

Speaker 1 And all the years that I've been a housewife of Atlanta, sweet 16, not that sweet. Not that sweet.

Speaker 1 And I just, I'm left with one question.

Speaker 1 Who's the who? Where's the where?

Speaker 1 And why is the why?

Speaker 1 What's the what?

Speaker 1 So, um, Andy's like, all right, well, welcome back to the Real Arts of Atlanta reunion.

Speaker 1 This season, we finally got to know the artist, formerly known as Porcha's friend, Shamia Morton, no relation to the salt.

Speaker 1 Shamia, you gave us a glimpse of the good, the bad, and the wealthy, and had a voice of your own, even if some people thought that voice sounded a lot like Drew. Watch this,

Speaker 1 yeah. So, we get Shamia's segment, which is a lot of money,

Speaker 1 the singing thing she did for her friends,

Speaker 1 the surrogate and the kid. So that's what we see.
So

Speaker 1 Andy is like, okay, so we got in a fight about donations with Brit,

Speaker 1 but that was resolved. Do you find it strange that she went from that really nice speech at the villa telling you that you were faking to telling you that you were faking?

Speaker 1 Because basically, in the villa, Britt did that whole like, you are my best friend. You are my horse.

Speaker 1 and I am here for you. And then the next day, she's like, Oh, really? You, your kid wasn't probably wasn't even really sick.
You were doing shots in Miami.

Speaker 1 And like, when they showed the clip, because she actually picked up a shot glass, he goes, You were doing a shots, shots,

Speaker 1 shottings in Miami.

Speaker 1 She's a very literal person. She's like, I need to have a prop to explain exactly what I'm talking about while I diss someone.
The character of season 16.

Speaker 1 So, Shamia is like, I mean, I have been able to handle infidelity rumors, a fractured friendship with Portia,

Speaker 1 having too good of a voice for the record industry to acknowledge, but I do not play about my kids. I wish that I were fabricating or creating a story.
I am so blessed to have my daughter today.

Speaker 1 So to hear somebody say that really pissed me off. It's like, okay, Shamia.

Speaker 1 So she, of course, does an enormous monologue about. That was only halfway through the monologue.
And busy, yada, yada, yada. She was annoying.

Speaker 1 you know her kids

Speaker 1 to help with her hearing which is good and you know because that kid's so cute her kids are so cute so she got her kids

Speaker 1 help and the first surrogate didn't pan out uh the first pregnancy didn't pan out and so they are trying a new surrogate and sorry martina

Speaker 1 sorry martina you're just gonna have to deal

Speaker 1 martina novrotilova she's like Another surrogate being used. It's a travesty.
Oh, God. Fucking Martina now.
Don't even get me started on that lady's tweets. So

Speaker 1 Andy's like, okay, Mem from Fist wants to know why you're always commenting and comparing yourself to Drew's singing and acting abilities. Drew was a household name triple threat.
Okay.

Speaker 1 She can sing, she can dance, and she can lie about purses. So

Speaker 1 go on.

Speaker 1 And she's like, yeah, and I just want to say congratulations, Drew. I'm just so...

Speaker 1 amazed with you. I mean, she is a triple threat.
And I'm not comparing my music to Drew's music. I mean, it's like comparing hot dogs to Grammy's.
Okay.

Speaker 1 But Drew was calling me a lap dog, so I shaded her. Okay, but I never shaded her voice or her ability to hit notes like she did me in the last clip.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Drew's like, for the record, I am no longer a triple threat. I'm a double threat because I lost one of my threats with drop-out with Drew.
Okay, available now.

Speaker 1 So Drew is like, well, you know, you went on the radio and said I was a liar for saying I speak five different languages. And Shmia's like, well, that's, that's what I said.

Speaker 1 Drew's like, well, clearly I wasn't lying because I can speak five different languages. If you sense that I'm coming up with a classic Juicadora prop coming up soon, it's about to happen.

Speaker 1 And Shamia's like,

Speaker 1 why I don't... Well, we had a conversation at Britt's event where

Speaker 1 you said yourself that your team made a mistake with the title of the song. Yeah, well, the song is called Affirmations.
Yeah, because it's from a book. Look, I got you a book.

Speaker 1 It's called The Five Love Languages. You were supposed to ask me what languages I speak and you never asked me.
So I'm just going to bring out the book anyway. Okay, here it is.

Speaker 1 Five love languages, my book. Five love languages.

Speaker 1 Does anyone see this?

Speaker 1 Did I hear this? But I actually really like this because

Speaker 1 it was like a part of it. It was something that Shamia didn't even get.
Like she tried to make this big deal.

Speaker 1 Like, she doesn't know five languages, that idiot, when she was referring to the five love languages. I thought that was kind of funny.
Like, I know five love languages.

Speaker 1 Because that is a big thing right now. Like, on, even on Love Island, we see it where people are like, my, my love language is acts of service.
So, really?

Speaker 1 Because my love language is like touching and kind words. Oh, wow.
Well, I'm an acts of service person. I'm sorry.
I don't think we're going to work out. How dare you?

Speaker 1 My love language is like physical touch. And, you know, if

Speaker 1 my tire doesn't fit your wheel, drive a different car, you know?

Speaker 1 So Drew is like.

Speaker 1 So Drew basically was talking. You speak your

Speaker 1 something else

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 drew is uh yeah so the five languages that she's fluent in are the love languages which i also don't think is true because she's getting a divorce

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 you could have made at least one of those languages work i mean come on maybe she's just non-lingual that's just non-lingual

Speaker 1 So Drew's like, Shamia, girl, you just love to make stuff up because you shaded and called me a liar.

Speaker 1 I mean, Drew. Come on, Drew.
Drew, come on now. Drew.

Speaker 1 Come on.

Speaker 1 What did you think of Drew saying you sing off-key? And Shamia's like, well, you know, she said she's never had a hard time hitting notes.

Speaker 1 Well, she had a hard time planning a showcase because it never happened.

Speaker 1 Unlike mine. I'm like, oh my God, this is so embarrassing.
And another thing. And another thing.
That Judith Lieber bag that you said you had, it wasn't Judith Lieber. It was a Judith Light original.

Speaker 1 And guess what? Her shit don't sell. So take it back, Drew.
And behind me,

Speaker 1 because I've seen it on Amazon. So

Speaker 1 she pulls out. She's brought in a prop bag.
It's like a big prop moment, this segment. So she brings out a prop bag and it's got the same bag, but it's from China and it was only $130.

Speaker 1 And Drew's like, I'll post a receipt. And she goes, oh, really? Really? Why don't you post it in your five languages? You fucking liar.
So then Drew posted the receipt.

Speaker 1 So she actually did buy the bag from Bergdwarfs according to her receipt. So this is like two things in a row that Shamia's kind of failed on.
And it's very Shamia.

Speaker 1 You know, the love language is followed by the purse. It's just very Shamia.
And it's very cringy. Cause like, I don't, I know that I rag on Shamia a lot, but it's not that I hate Shamia.

Speaker 1 I just, I'm cringed. I think she's just trying too hard.
She just needs to be.

Speaker 1 When did she post the receipt? Did she show the receipt?

Speaker 1 She posted it. Oh, she didn't have a screenshot.
Oh, oh, it's oh, on Instagram. Yeah, she didn't bring it to the reunion, but she posted it on Insta.
You think it's a lie?

Speaker 1 I don't believe anything Drew does. I'm sorry.
I thought you meant that she showed it at the reunion. I was like, I don't remember that.
No, she posted it online. It was $5,796 plus tax, $347.70.

Speaker 1 And so that came came to $6,142.70.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 That's it. I wonder when she returned it.
Because

Speaker 1 she posted it with her song.

Speaker 1 I got five on it, love languages, featuring Big Quad by Drew Sedora. I got five on it.

Speaker 1 Did she really call it I Got Five on It Love Languages? No.

Speaker 1 From the Love Languages.

Speaker 1 Drew, Drew, Drew, Drew. Drew, true, true, true.
Okay, so Andy is like

Speaker 1 a bag. Thank God it's plastic.
I can wipe it off. Thank God it's plastic.
I got Ralph on it.

Speaker 1 I got Ralph on it.

Speaker 1 So anyway.

Speaker 1 I'll take that.

Speaker 1 So, Portia, do you think Britt was being malicious, informing you about Shamia showing your text messages? And do you believe her? I mean, do you think Britt was being malicious?

Speaker 1 Is there any answer to that other than yes? So Portia's like, well, do I think she's being malicious?

Speaker 1 Yes, because she was upset because she felt like she was being thrown out and had been out of an alliance. But like two other things that she was really saying felt really familiar.

Speaker 1 So the text messages were like my actual text messages. So yeah, some of it was definitely true.
And so Andy's like, all right, well, Kelly, you were present at the time.

Speaker 1 Britt said Shamia showed you the text. Do you remember that? And of course, Kelly, she of the great memory is like, you know, I don't.

Speaker 1 You know, we definitely hung out that night, but I'm damn sure I didn't see any text messages from Shamia,

Speaker 1 just as I'm sure I never compared my relationship to Angela's.

Speaker 1 And surely this doesn't look like I'm just lying because we're in an alliance, which we've already admitted to. So I'm just going to stick with this.

Speaker 1 But I like Portia's answer because she's like, well, yeah, it was malicious that Britt showed me those texts, but they were true. They were the texts that I had sent.
So

Speaker 1 she wasn't lying either. So Shamia is like, well, you know, the tea that she was trying to bring back

Speaker 1 doesn't even matter because I had already said that to your face, right? I mean, did me and Portia celebrate me getting a peach? My answer was no, because she'd been going through some stuff.

Speaker 1 Andrew's like, oh my God, you're just lying today. You're lying.

Speaker 1 You told me that Angela, you told me and Angela the same thing, that Portia did not celebrate you and you were very upset.

Speaker 1 Wait, so how is that?

Speaker 1 jamia literally just said this is what i this is what britt brought back to portia that that portia and i did not celebrate me getting a peach and i was upset because like she was going i guess actually she was saying it was a simple no because she'd been going through some stuff and drew saying the lie is that no you were the lie is that you were it was a simple no you were actually upset about it right

Speaker 1 She was like, no. Well, I said when I got my peach, we did not get a chance to celebrate it because, again, the same story.

Speaker 1 And Drew's like, well, you never said to me, that to me and Angela, though, you said you were hurt because she didn't celebrate. I was like, this is so,

Speaker 1 this is, this is so threading the needle of like a relevance to anything at this moment. Like, I'm not even sure if it's even more.

Speaker 1 Well, it's just another, I think it's just another example of Shamia acting one way and then acting another way to your face.

Speaker 1 Like she's telling the girls, I mean, Portia, what kind of friend is Portia? She doesn't even celebrate me when I get a peach. I mean, is she even really my friend? Like, doesn't she care?

Speaker 1 It's a big deal for me. And Portia doesn't even care.
And she's really saying, no, no, I was just saying you couldn't unfortunately celebrate because you're going through a lot, Portia.

Speaker 1 And I totally understand.

Speaker 1 If that was the case, then I do think that Shamia should just be more honest about those moments. Because like, I mean,

Speaker 1 but like, it's also, it's so, this is such a small thing to like grill, like, to grill

Speaker 1 over.

Speaker 1 to grill anyone over, whether it's Shamia, whether it's like their friend, like to, as, this is such a small piece of evidence to destroy a friendship over, you know? All right.

Speaker 1 Well, let's get to the moment we're all not waiting for some more shamia and portia so we see a big clip package of their friendship and their problems and their arguing and then uh what's the current status of your friendship today does it have new boobs does it

Speaker 1 tell me about the new boobs your friendship got

Speaker 1 and they just pause no one will answer they're they're like who's gonna answer so portia finally answers first and she says there isn't there isn't a status of our relationship there's no communication.

Speaker 1 And she says she could have gotten over everything, but it's the recent smear campaign that she didn't like and the lies that were told in recent interviews.

Speaker 1 She went on Candy's show and said that Portia didn't congratulate her. And

Speaker 1 Candy finally had to say, well, did she call you? And you said, well, yeah, she called. And then you went onto the breakfast club and said that you only had one wedding.

Speaker 1 And Shamia says, I did only have one wedding. Well, Porsche says that's a lie, which we all know that's a lie because she had one wedding in Africa and one wedding, one local wedding.

Speaker 1 Isn't that already established that's hard to understand like why Shamia lies about stupid little things like that like it's been established on the show that you had a local one hasn't it well what's also what's also shitty is that like

Speaker 1 Shamia has these little lies you know to try to save face these little lies like well I didn't say that I didn't say I was upset I didn't say but I mean if you really look at the actions like Portia has been way worse to Shamia like like Portia is getting off scot-free because we're all focused on these stupid little lies that Shamia said.

Speaker 1 And Portia is the one who didn't go to the wedding. Portia is the one who didn't congratulate Shamia.
Portia is the one who shaded Shamia for her singing.

Speaker 1 Like, Portia's been, like, honestly, a shitty friend to Shamia, but we're all focused on, like, the fact that Shamia is not being, like, emotionally honest with herself by saying, like, well, no, I acted this way.

Speaker 1 But then it turns out she was talking like a little bit of shit, which was honestly justified shit. And we do wish, I wish.

Speaker 1 that Shamia would have just been honest to be like, yeah, I did talk shit because I was upset, but because now she's getting tripped up.

Speaker 1 Like, Portia is able to change this whole narrative into, well, look at what I have to deal with.

Speaker 1 Someone who's not being honest when Portia's like, you fully skipped out on your best friend's wedding. You skipped out on all these things.
You didn't even congratulate her.

Speaker 1 You should have, when she had a big party, you should have showed up late and tried to steal the spotlight when she was getting her big car at the first episode of the season. So like Portia's been,

Speaker 1 I agree with you that Shamia could just say, listen, I did say that because I got a peach and you don't even care. Like, hello, you never, you never,

Speaker 1 we never go out. we never do anything.
You just send me a little text. Like, what the fuck is that? I think she would be more right to do that.
I think you're right. Yeah,

Speaker 1 100%

Speaker 1 and all these little lies, too. It's not just Shamia, Porsche's whole, like, well, I couldn't go to your wedding because you know that I can't fly because I had medical issues.

Speaker 1 And then, and then she's like, Coming up later this season, you said that you didn't go because we were having problems. So, which is it? And I didn't even know that until that moment.
Right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, but what happens is that it winds up being like, being a false equivalency where, like, Porsche's, you know, infractions are sort of like just as bad as Shamia's.

Speaker 1 And if you really look at them, they are 100% not.

Speaker 1 But I just wish that Shamia did not allow Portia to have that sort of leeway because Portia should be held accountable for being a shitty friend to Shamia at times. Like the wedding thing is shitty.

Speaker 1 Like a bunch of the things are shitty. And like I love Portia, but she sometimes needs to have her feet held to the fire a little bit more.
Yeah. So then

Speaker 1 Portia basically is everything we just said you know they start talking about the weddings they go through all of that stuff

Speaker 1 and um

Speaker 1 it's just a lot of hurt and i mean we've seen it all season it's kind of the same thing so i'm trying to read through to figure out where it ends but it goes on for a long time

Speaker 1 it's the climax of the episode essentially right and so then but then it eventually starts to pivot into talk about this alliance again

Speaker 1 So, you know, Portia is like, no, we had a beautiful friendship and I like, I love you, Shamia.

Speaker 1 So for me to now see that you decide to form an alliance with two girls, the very two girls, and she's like, I tried to include you in the alliance. And she's like, no, you didn't.

Speaker 1 She's like, yes, I did. She's like, that's not true.
She's like, but meanwhile, Portia is the one who says she doesn't want to be an alliance in the first place.

Speaker 1 But she's like, but then, you know, you know, to talk, but I'm trying to sabotage you. She's like, okay, I'm going to be heard today.
I like Porsche saying she's going to be heard today.

Speaker 1 Like, she's not heard ever. She's the one who gets all the attention and all the microphones.
Yeah. So then they start doing the, no, I'm going to talk.
No, I'm going to talk. No, I'm going to talk.

Speaker 1 And they argue about the alliance and stuff. And then Andy's like, hold on, hold on, hold, hold.

Speaker 1 Now, Shamia, this is the part where I pretend that I don't spend my entire life trying to get women to fight on TV. I really want women to make up, guys.
That's why we're here. So, Shamia.

Speaker 1 You told me you'd be willing to put in the effort if Portia makes the first move. And I saw that she did a birthday post for you.
And she goes, yeah, that was sweet.

Speaker 1 And I texted her back because now a text suffices, by the way. So So she's like,

Speaker 1 yeah, well, but then she continued her smear campaign right after that. She's like, no, I didn't.
And you're the one that made a post about my mom.

Speaker 1 You said that I, that my mom did something egregious to your mom. And Porsche goes, she absolutely did.
And she goes, why are you even speaking about my mom? And she goes, oh, really?

Speaker 1 You know she did. You know what your mom did.
And that's the end. So now we've finally gotten to something interesting, which is the daycare fight.

Speaker 1 It's the fight over the daycare center and i hope they get into it because that was interesting it was all off camera i don't even remember what i mean some mom fights

Speaker 1 i don't even remember what that daycare center drama was all about mom and shimita

Speaker 1 moms both own daycare they both run daycare centers okay so they're like competing daycare center ladies and

Speaker 1 uh Portia's mom was one of the moms was having financial trouble and she was like, please, whatever happens, if they take my daycare, don't let my, you know, don't, don't let it get taken away or used against me me or don't let, don't let it be turned into another daycare center or something.

Speaker 1 Don't let it fall into the wrong hands. Yeah, something like that.
And then the daycare center did get taken away and then the other mom took it. She bought it.
And so now it's a daycare.

Speaker 1 It's like, how dare you? You took my corner in the daycare market.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but have a better daycare.

Speaker 1 I mean, I guess. Like chart, I don't know, you know,

Speaker 1 I don't know how do you say that to somebody, though? Because I feel like daycare, that's like, I feel like you have to be a good person to have a daycare. Well, maybe there's more to the story.

Speaker 1 Somebody manage a daycare better, lady. You know, maybe there was some corporate sabotage.
I don't know. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm very excited about that. Well, and I love a generational backstory.

Speaker 1 There were also the rumors about, so there were the rumors that Shamia's mom

Speaker 1 somehow got the daycare. when the other mom was in financial straits.

Speaker 1 And then when Kim Zolsiak's house was being foreclosed on, there was the rumor that Shamia's husband was the one who bought it for like rock bottom prices.

Speaker 1 So I like, and I don't know if that one was even true.

Speaker 1 I think that it wasn't, but I like just the rumors about Shamia are so much more interesting than what we're getting is, I guess, what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Because that daycare fight is the best thing that happened on the show and it was all offline.

Speaker 1 Maybe it was like Walmart.

Speaker 1 You know, like Walmart would like come into a community and have like rock bottom prices and then drive out all the business and then Walmart would be the all on in town and prices go up.

Speaker 1 So maybe that's what Shamia's mom did with her daycare center. Driving off the mom and Walmart and pops.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like Walmart, driving off the mom and pops. Except they weren't even driving off the mom and pops because the mom and pops drove off and left their kids at the daycare.
So

Speaker 1 we'll have to see how that all pans out next week,

Speaker 1 which is good because my Wi-Fi is failing in this hotel at this moment. So in the meantime, the Barbara Star Sand list.
All right, everybody. Thanks so much for being here.

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