#2935 RHOA S16E19 Part 1: Junebug Don’t You Lose My Number

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Speaker 1 Well, hello, and welcome to Watch What Crappens? I'm Ronnie, and that's Ben over there. Hi, Ben.

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Speaker 1 And apparently I swell and bruise more than most, I found out.

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Speaker 1 Are you a

Speaker 1 bruiser?

Speaker 1 Yeah, sure am. I'm a sweller and a blues.
Well, technically, I have

Speaker 1 what's called light hemophilia. So

Speaker 1 there I'm like, I am bruising and I'm swelling like mad. But

Speaker 1 that's homophilia.

Speaker 1 Think about that.

Speaker 1 When I had my wisdom teeth taken out when i was 18 that's when this was discovered uh because uh my face swole up and i looked like jay leno i went to school and everyone called me jay leno in fact so uh hmm something's going on here

Speaker 1 jay leno i think a modern term would be a real housewife at a reunion because That's that. You know, you get, you swell up right before the reunion.
You go get all your injections and

Speaker 1 all your dids done. So that's what's happened.
It's episode two, reunion, episode two of Real housewives of Atlanta. Ooh, what will happen? Will Shamia and Porsche fight about stupid shit? Probably.

Speaker 1 Will Angela pull things out of a folder? Probably.

Speaker 1 I don't know how to do it. This episode I thought was much better than the first.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I thought this was much better than the first episode.
You were very fortunate to

Speaker 1 not have to recap the first episode because the first episode, they were like treading water. They didn't have Brit.

Speaker 1 They were just trying, like, half the episode was Andy just being like, hey, how are you doing today? Like, there was nothing to talk about.

Speaker 1 But this time, this episode, I felt like we got into some other, again, stupid shit, but at least there was stuff to get into, you know?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Why is Shamia dressed with a shoe tongue on her? I know.

Speaker 1 That's such a good point.

Speaker 1 Dr. Scholz.

Speaker 1 Yes. Or like a

Speaker 1 sticking up from the bottom of the frame. It's like sticking up.
It just keeps on intruding.

Speaker 1 It's supposed to be, I think, like maybe a flower petal or a peacock feather, but it's like popping up through the bottom of the frame and it's just like wiggling every time she gets mad it's very distracting

Speaker 1 it's just a shoe tongue it's a shoe tongue and then she they have that whole segment like shamia's so rich she's rich rich look at sterling hall look at the chandeliers look at your look at your shoe tongue hanging off your dress you are too rich to be dressed like that why

Speaker 1 yeah i know i know well there's a lot of questionable looks i mean phaedra's earrings really still continue to uh well phaedra looks puzzle me yeah she looks like two door knockers she's got two door knockers as earrings.

Speaker 1 And yeah, she looks crazy. But you know what? We'll say, Phaedra did a great job.
I mean, I think she comes in here and she filmed 10 days, I think I heard, like a little over. 10 days, only 10 days.

Speaker 1 And she said it on the

Speaker 1 reunion. Oh, she said, she did say it?

Speaker 1 She did mention

Speaker 1 inside sources are watching the TV show. I'm like, my inside sources have told me it was the TV show she told me.

Speaker 1 Well, no, I mean, there was Inside Sources for a while, but then she sort of said it on last week's episode. But yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 she was only in for 10 10 uh episodes but she has taken over the reunion part of that is because we don't have brit but um the other part is like phaedra's a pro you know she she's like in the mix all of a sudden right right after only just 10 days of shooting my question is why did they add more days of shooting Why did they extend the shooting

Speaker 1 schedule to accommodate things like that? This season cannot handle more days of shooting. They barely made it through the season they had.
They needed

Speaker 1 nine less episodes, I think, on this season. That would have helped this season.

Speaker 1 We don't need more shooting. Okay, we need better shooting, better shooting.

Speaker 1 So here we are: Real Housewives of Atlanta.

Speaker 1 We are starting with Angela accusing Phaedra of being behind the Marcus Sitch. Oh my God.

Speaker 1 First of all, that guy is too thirsty to believe. I can't believe anybody is giving that guy any credence.

Speaker 1 Why isn't that good? I mean, this guy's full of shit.

Speaker 1 100%.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 Angela really going after Phaedra.

Speaker 1 I mean, I think that Angela's just trying to secure a storyline for the next season, right? She's like, I'll go after one of the big dogs.

Speaker 1 But Andy's like, Angela, why were you certain it was Phaedra that sent this man to the group? And she's like, well, Phaedra just wanted to secure a spot. And Phaedra's like, um,

Speaker 1 you don't remember. Bravo came to me and begged me to be on this show.
I'm not trying to secure my spot. Like, I am secure.

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 And they give them like a couple year contracts, the big ones, you know, they're like, Okay, we're gonna guarantee that you're gonna be on here at least two years, we won't make you look too stupid.

Speaker 1 So, I think that's

Speaker 1 Phaedra's a hot commodity after the traders. Like, people have been people want Phaedra, she's in commercials.
Okay, no one else on this cast is in commercials, so yeah, I think she'll take her.

Speaker 1 Please address her as such.

Speaker 1 Have some respect.

Speaker 1 So, she's like,

Speaker 1 yeah, Andy agrees. He's like, yeah, it's kind of secure.
NBC Uni spent a lot of money on Phaedra. Okay.

Speaker 1 And Angela's like, well, and Portia, what I found alarming about Porsche is that she's so eager to believe Phaedra when Phaedra is a known liar.

Speaker 1 And Phaedra carried all this candy stuff and made Portia come out with it on TV. Portia should know about Angela.
We got to forget.

Speaker 1 I mean, you don't have to forget or forgive really anything, especially that candy situation.

Speaker 1 But it was so long ago and so much happens on these shows that that's like, I felt like that was told in old newsreel footage at this point. Like, are we watching Steamboat Willie?

Speaker 1 Why are you bringing that up? It's too, you're not even involved in that, Angela. My God, you were like 50 when that happened.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I actually liked her bringing that up because it needed to be addressed in some form. It just sort of was brushed under the rug.

Speaker 1 It's like, there was a big deal that happened between these two. So we should, we should talk about that at some point.
By the way, the air conditioner just came on right next to the microphone.

Speaker 1 Can you hear it?

Speaker 1 Is it disruptive disruptive to everyone's ears out there in podcast land or is it okay i don't know i don't hear it but i think the sound of air conditioning in the summer like reading what's going on across the country i think that people are probably glad to hear the sound of air conditioning you know there's a lot of hot i have to say to this right now

Speaker 1 it's an it's an immersive podcast because now we get to know what it sounds like to be like right up against angela's face while her fan is blowing it's like it's like the air conditioner new we're talking about angela's like oh you need to be cool down right now

Speaker 1 i think we get to know what it sounds like inside Andy's head right now.

Speaker 1 Because that's what Andy's face looks like. Andy looks like they just dragged him out of the bed and just handed him some cards.
He's like, no, please, not another one. Please.

Speaker 1 Don't do this to me.

Speaker 1 So many reunions.

Speaker 1 So Angela is basically like, yeah, you know, like,

Speaker 1 why are you so quick to believe her when she like threw you under the bus or the bridge? I think she says threw you under the bridge at one point, or was that another reunion?

Speaker 1 It's hard to remember at this point. No, Jack said under the bridge on the valley.
There's a lot of metaphors that go around on Bravo. So Portia's like, well, I mean, I think I said that.

Speaker 1 Like, I was thinking, everybody's thinking this whole thing is so silly, but like, nothing about the guy and like what he says was looking real.

Speaker 1 So, like, the junior, the Jeebo, whoever he said, and just like, Junebug, Junebug, Junebug was just to protect his sister. I'm like, well, so much for that.

Speaker 1 I was cracking out because then you hear someone just go, June bug,

Speaker 1 June bug.

Speaker 1 I think. I mean,

Speaker 1 I started cracking up Junebug.

Speaker 1 So, um,

Speaker 1 yeah, so they're talking about Junebug now. And Angela's like, but the issue is real.
Like, why is everybody saying this issue is real? Maybe the name's stupid, but the issue is real.

Speaker 1 And Portia's like, please, that man is lying, you know, and she's like, Where's the lie? Where's the lie, Phage? Where's the lie? He lied multiple times. First,

Speaker 1 First he said it was someone who brought him. Then he said it was somebody else.
Then you guys went and talked. You and Drew showed up to talk to him.
And then he changed his story.

Speaker 1 I mean, the guy changes the story. He's not a reliable witness, man.
Okay.

Speaker 1 He is not. This is.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the whole thing, the fact that he sort of just like showed up. Yeah, no, it's weird.
No. So Phaedra's like, he doesn't know me.

Speaker 1 And he's just like, yeah, but he knows your brother and he knows your sister. Phaedra's like, well, just because someone knows my brother or sister, but he doesn't know anyone else.

Speaker 1 It's like, but I don't know everyone my brother knows. So Shamia's like, well, I look through your face.

Speaker 1 You have to be your Facebook friends.

Speaker 1 Have you been?

Speaker 1 Ever look through your family's Facebook friends? If I were ever confronted with who my family is friends with on Facebook, I would have been canceled 90 years ago.

Speaker 1 You can't hold who people are Facebook friends with of your siblings against you, are you? Is that allowed in the court of law? No.

Speaker 1 I also think like who you're Facebook friends with, it doesn't even matter anymore. First of all, who cares about Facebook these days? I went on to Facebook the other day.

Speaker 1 I saw like three updates from friends and they were just, they weren't even like close friends. It was like the random people who were like, everyone,

Speaker 1 I found the most beautiful caterpillar in my driveway today. And you're like, I don't even know who you are while you're updating about this.
And then the rest was just like suggested posts.

Speaker 1 It was like, here's a suggested post from the New York Jets. Here's one about a movie theater that was built in 1903 in Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 Here's one from like everything is like, like, I don't even know what the algorithm is doing anymore. I love your algorithm because it's like somewhat intelligent.
Mine is so stupid.

Speaker 1 It's all Love Island. It's like, here's the real reason Huda knows how to twerk, you know? And then it's a lot of, I get that stuff too.
It's a lot of AI stories that are just made up.

Speaker 1 And then here's what Lala said about the valley. For years, I have struggled in a war, a war of conscience.
And now I'm like, Lala would never speak like this. You guys are just making shit up now.

Speaker 1 Or they'll be like, the little dolphin that saved the girl from a dinosaur, and it's it's a dolphin coming out of the ocean with a baby while a dinosaur is swimming out.

Speaker 1 I'm like, this is just, this is all AI craziness. I don't even know how anybody is on there, except I'm on there all the time, because I really like AI news.

Speaker 1 I mean, a dinosaur saving a baby, a dolphin saving a baby from a dinosaur. Actually, you know what? We should bring Facebook back, make it more popular again.
Yay, AI.

Speaker 1 I have to say, I just went onto my Facebook to see if I could pull up something random, but I've actually, I was so mad that I went and I like closed all the things.

Speaker 1 And now my algorithm, I think I feel like I, I think I scared the algorithm straight for a moment. So right now it is actually serving me updates from friends.

Speaker 1 But again, the only people who are updating on Facebook are the people who are updating really lame stuff. Let's be honest.
So if you watch one post, and yet I go on it all day.

Speaker 1 Like I watched one food post because, you know, they, they do like

Speaker 1 catchy food posts on there where they're like, we made a wedding cake out of potato chips. See how it happened.
So I'll watch that.

Speaker 1 And now everything, it's like, I put pasta on my table and poured boiling water on it and then put some Doritos and pasta sauce. It's a delicious meal for my family.

Speaker 1 I'm shocked at what these trad wives are feeding their families. And I'm finding out on these Facebook posts, they're horrifying.
They're horrifying. Yeah.
Talk about children who suggest

Speaker 1 those kids, those kids have no hope. Okay, anyway, Facebook.
Facebook, good or bad. Discuss

Speaker 1 the point is, I mean, also, let's not forget, Facebook is the same platform that suggests like

Speaker 1 David Geffen to us and like Laura Dern. And like, honestly, at this point, there are people on my Facebook I don't even know.
Like,

Speaker 1 I'm not even gonna talk about like my brother who I don't know about my brother's friends. I don't even know about my friends on Facebook.
There are people who are giving updates about like

Speaker 1 this, just in had a wonderful brunch. I'm like, who are you? Why are my friends with you? How did you become my Facebook friend? Yeah, I just stopped accepting people.
Yeah, yeah. So, Angela

Speaker 1 accuses,

Speaker 1 yeah, weak defense. So, Angela accuses

Speaker 1 just weak fence. It's a weak fence.
I hope it's a weak fence.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 Angela is, uh, Angela's accusing Phaedra of being a self-producer. Angela, you've literally followed this restaurant man around, taken him to dinner, compiled evidence, brought him on camera.

Speaker 1 You are producing, man. This is what producing is.
And I'm not saying that Phaedra is not self-producing.

Speaker 1 I think they all do, as we find from their confession last week that they've been planning this

Speaker 1 alliance of the girls. That's what the fight is about today.
This alliance and who's included. You're all self-producing.
It's just you're getting caught and

Speaker 1 you're kind of bad at it. She's, she's in, and I'm sorry, I'm talking so much, but she's like, this season is what's happening to Katie.

Speaker 1 Katie's in her second season on Real Housewife of Orange County, and she's trying to play the game where she's like, they're doing this.

Speaker 1 So I'm going to go to these bloggers and I'm going to do this and I'm going to go to war. But they're taking it like way too far and too seriously.

Speaker 1 I think to be a good housewife, you have to have a little underhandedness and not get caught all the time in the producing. Don't you?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I think also the alliances are bad because the audience, the audiences can pick up on it because the alliances mean that you're going to have inauthentic interactions because you're actually serving an ulterior motive.

Speaker 1 And we can always pick up on it versus the people who are just themselves. I mean, is it a coincidence that Angela is like the breakout star of the season and she wasn't in the alliance?

Speaker 1 Think about that. She just has to like navigate what the hell is like coming at her.

Speaker 1 And she's just like living in like what her emotional truth is versus, you know, maybe whatever like newbie alliance that they had, or even if alliance is too formal of a word, the point was that they were talking on the phone and saying we got to stick together or anything like that.

Speaker 1 I think anytime you have those conversations, you're getting away from being authentic on these shows. And we as an audience are more sophisticated than these idiot reality stars realize.

Speaker 1 And we pick up on everything and we sense everything. And we can tell when something's not working.
And we may not even know, be able to always say why it's not working, but we know.

Speaker 1 And I will say almost always, it's going to be because they are trying to control the narrative, self-produce, or do alliances. And that being said, I mean, Pedra is like the queen of self-producing.

Speaker 1 And so it was kind of fun to see Angela accuse her of that, but it's not like any of this stuff with Marcus is really reeks of authenticity itself.

Speaker 1 But when she's like, Angela's like, yeah, you are a self-producer, just like you say you know Charles, right? And Pedra's like, well, I said I've hung out with Charles on numerous occasions.

Speaker 1 She's like, you have? She's like, yeah, I mean, 10 years ago. She's like, oh, really? You've met him before? She's like, I have met Charles before.
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Speaker 1 So then we get into the who's room fight, which is my favorite. Like, what room did you know Charles in? Well, I'm the Charles and Myrons.
Well, people in my room don't know you.

Speaker 1 Well, people in my room don't know you. Well, we're in different rooms.
Oh, yeah. Well, what room are you in? Well, I'm in the library.
Well, I'm in the study. Well, I hate studies.
I couldn't tell.

Speaker 1 Well, really, a library is a study, not my kind of study. Your people aren't in my study.
I mean, it becomes like a fight about rooms, which I really liked.

Speaker 1 Um, but as far as the Phaedra manipulating things, I like when they get caught when they're really doing it.

Speaker 1 You know, like they could have caught Vanderpump on so many things, and they ended up catching her on something so flimsy and stupid. And I feel like that's what she's trying to do with Phaedra.

Speaker 1 Like, there's better things to catch Phaedra on, like, lie and wait, lie and wait.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So yeah, they, they get into the spat because Angela's like, my husband doesn't know who you are. And Pedro's like, well, I don't know who you are.
And she's like, well, I'm in the rooms.

Speaker 1 I'm in the rooms that you want to be in. She's like, well, I'm in all the rooms I need to be in.
And they have the room fight, as you mentioned. The room fight.
And this goes on.

Speaker 1 By the way, Charles barely knows who you are, Angela. Charles doesn't know anybody.

Speaker 1 That's true, too.

Speaker 1 Charles doesn't know you anyway. Charles is not the kind to walk into the grocery store and know the name of the guy behind the meat counter.
You know what I mean? He's like, just stopped.

Speaker 1 Everybody, just stop fucking talking to me. Yeah.
He's like, all I know is I've been cooking like 45 corns in the cobs and some Brussels sprouts. And this lady keeps hanging around.

Speaker 1 She says we're married. I don't know if it's true.
I just got to keep cooking my corn. He literally did, though.
He literally did.

Speaker 1 Did you see that interview where they were like, so tell us about your relationship with Angela?

Speaker 1 He's like, well, we were in Vegas and I think someone slipped something into my drink or something because the next day we were getting married. I don't know how the hell that happened.

Speaker 1 what do you say about that

Speaker 1 this is a real romantic story

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 so yeah they get into the fight of charles doesn't even know you and phedra's like well i don't i didn't even say i know him well i just like i know the i've been around him and she's like oh so you're breaking into rooms now she's like

Speaker 1 i'm a robber because Because you don't have tickets to the rooms.

Speaker 1 So she's like, you're a liar. You're not a robber.
You're a liar. That's what you are.
You're a liar. Phaedra's like, okay, but you know what? Can I, Andy, can I use your phone?

Speaker 1 He's like, all right, hold on. Let me just erase this grinder app right here.
And here you go. Okay.
So Phaedra's like, okay, I'm going to call my brother. So she calls her brother.
And she's like,

Speaker 1 she's like, okay, Jacques, it's Phaedra. We're at the reunion.
You're being recorded. You're on speaker phone.
So don't say anything wild. You know the drill.
We always said this day would come.

Speaker 1 So you follow, just follow along. Okay.
It has come up about the whole person who accused Angela's husband of having an affair.

Speaker 1 She says the the reason I know him in Vreetion is because you went to school with some woman named Kim Bleep.

Speaker 1 Do you know Kim Bleep?

Speaker 1 I'm sorry, but I'm finally on speakerphone on national television. I'm going to get a little Phil Collins in there.

Speaker 1 Against all odds with you,

Speaker 1 him.

Speaker 1 If I was that brother, I would have taken my moment. Why isn't he karaoke?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I would have 100%.
And against all odds, what a great choice. Yeah, and I.
Take a look at me.

Speaker 1 Take a look at me.

Speaker 1 Why aren't we talking to the brother? The phone call should be to Junebug. You have one call available.
Why are we not calling Junebug?

Speaker 1 Why are we not calling Marcus at least? You know? Oh, man. I would love the idea of doing a Phil Collins, a Phil Collins audition at the reunion.

Speaker 1 You know what I would do when it's time to hang up with me? I go, Phaedra, Phaedra, don't lose my number.

Speaker 1 I'd do all the hits. I would cram them all in.
I would like.

Speaker 1 I don't even know enough Phil Collins, but I think if I ever had a chance like that on speakerphone, I would do something like

Speaker 1 something like this problematic now, but you've never really thought about it. Like this song.
Get out of my dreams and into my car.

Speaker 1 That song's so fucking creepy. Why do they even still play that on the radio? That is human trafficking.
See something, say something.

Speaker 1 You know what? I really am sad that when they previewed next week's reunion episode, they didn't have Jacques on screen going, One more night, give me just one more night,

Speaker 1 one

Speaker 1 more night, I can't wait forever.

Speaker 1 Beautiful song, so beautiful. I'll go through all the hits.
I'll come up with a pun for every single one of those Phil Collins songs.

Speaker 1 If you think I don't have serious hits, dot dot dot live, you are sadly mistaken. It's a great album.

Speaker 1 Oh, i know you do i know that's your ring that's your ring oh i love that album the phil collins phil collins live i mean hello this is the dream those electric drums

Speaker 1 okay so jacques is being

Speaker 1 kathy michele singing them

Speaker 1 so uh jacques is being grilled and phedra's like she said that your friends on facebook was someone named kim fuck fuckface

Speaker 1 i don't know it It was a bleep. So I can only assume it was Kim Fuckface.
I want to know who Kim is. He's like, I don't know Kim Fuckface.
And she's like, oh, well, really? Oh, you know him on Face.

Speaker 1 You know her on Facebook. It's Kim Fuckface.
It's like, I don't know Kim Fuckface.

Speaker 1 And he's like, I've never even heard of a Kim Fuckface. And so Andy's like, he's like, I'm friends with you.
Are they saying they're Facebook friends? Andy, go back to bed. Just go back to bed, Andy.

Speaker 1 Yes, they're saying they're Facebook friends. Did you not? Did you not catch our 20 minutes of Facebook discussions?

Speaker 1 Jacques is is like, I don't know. I'm from Facebook friends with a million and one people.
There's one gay guy on here named Ben Mandelger who keeps posting about food.

Speaker 1 I mean, I don't know who this guy is. If I have to hear about one more fucking Wordle

Speaker 1 from this Molly Baz loving queen.

Speaker 1 You know, stop playing Wordle, by the way. Wow.
Once I hit the highs, because I found that once I finally hit my like.

Speaker 1 Like got on the first one finally by using my same word for like two and a half or three years. I don't know.
I just felt like the joy was gone. I just am not motivated to play Wordle anymore.

Speaker 1 I climbed my peak. You heard it here first.
The day finally, the day Ben finally agreed with me.

Speaker 1 Wordle, joyless.

Speaker 1 You know, when I think about Wordle, I think,

Speaker 1 you have no right

Speaker 1 to ask me how I feel.

Speaker 1 You have no right

Speaker 1 to treat me so kind.

Speaker 1 Separate lives, me and Wordle.

Speaker 1 Well, she said you're Facebook friends, and that she's from Athens. He's like, Well, I'm Facebook friends with so many fuck faces, I don't even know who's in that family anymore.

Speaker 1 But you went to high school together. He's like, I don't know, Kim.
Fuck face. And she's like, Goodbye, Jacques.
Click.

Speaker 1 Case closed. So Angel's like, it's okay.
It's your brother. I mean, he's just going to say, he's going to back you up.

Speaker 1 Just like you sent someone up to me to say,

Speaker 1 I'm bleep. Who has the hands? And everyone's like what

Speaker 1 is this jewel was it was it leanne lockins

Speaker 1 yeah it was lean lockin

Speaker 1 i'm just here to deliver a message i have hands

Speaker 1 and i know how to use them even if they are just hands so

Speaker 1 pedra deliver that message hi uh phedra sent me she just wanted me to let you know i have hands Okay, I have them.

Speaker 1 They have hands.

Speaker 1 So Phaedra's like, I was sending you someone a task rabbit to help you out build your chair he said he's got hands he was a threat and he's like what does that mean the hands and angels like oh yeah well we were at the hawks game and a young lady who was with phaedra walked up to me and said hi i'm cockface i'm the one with hands

Speaker 1 But as it turns out, this person did have enormous hands that everyone was looking at. I was like, well, you know,

Speaker 1 she's like, no, honestly, if you want a photo, I'm down. i'm totally not

Speaker 1 or maybe she's just selling foam fingers i'm ronnie i'm the one with the hands look at look at these hands they're huge they're huge imagine if it's just like a vendor who's useless

Speaker 1 it was just a vendor who's like hey i'm face i've got the i got the hands you said you wanted a foam finger i got i got a bunch here you want some you want a hand

Speaker 1 So Angela explains, that's a threat, I guess, like throwing hands or whatever. So Phaedra is like, you wait.
So now you're trying to say that I had someone named Cockface come to threaten you?

Speaker 1 And Drew's like, that's a threat. That's a threat, you guys.
It's a threat. And she's like, okay, but then if you thought I was threatening you, then why wouldn't you mention that?

Speaker 1 And she goes, why would I? Angela,

Speaker 1 you have a folder of Facebook posts behind you. Of course you would mention it if somebody threatened you.
Right.

Speaker 1 Well, maybe she was thinking I'm not going to mention it because I was threatened.

Speaker 1 But then she mentioned it anyway. So then Pedra's like, you know, like, why would you do that?

Speaker 1 And Angela's like, I don't move like that phedra check the people in your circle and he's like okay so so cocksucker said i got hands to her that's what hands to her hands on her hands for her what's going on with the hands here and paid was like i mean i've never heard of this before ever like well yeah i don't know if i believe phaedra either to be honest

Speaker 1 yeah i don't i don't believe any of i don't believe any of this because it all sounds too crazy to me because if you're at a game okay you're like okay there's my friend over there she's a real bitch okay i'm gonna go over there hi i'm friends with phaedra i have hands what the fuck is what kind of friends do you have you know that's a terrible friend that didn't threaten anybody i would go over there and say you ever want to eat popcorn in this stadium again you watch your mouth against my friend i know the hot dog steamer here and i'll have you cut off in a fucking heartbeat ma'am do you understand me do you ever want a big gulp full of dr pepper again then you better rethink how you talk to my friend hot dog steamer that's right david david fuckface.

Speaker 1 Come over here. He's related to Kim.
You ever heard of him? Come here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, hot dog. Don't give one to this lady.
Or a husband.

Speaker 1 Those hands may have an invisible touch. Phil Collins.

Speaker 1 So Andy is, I mean, what if the hands were just like one of her allies and the traitors? What if it was just Kate Chastain?

Speaker 1 Hi, I'm Kate. I've got got hands and you're stupid there

Speaker 1 you just got got you got hit by my hand my hand is my wit

Speaker 1 uh so andy's like so drew you were at the interrogation do you believe that phaedra did it and she's like well i mean marcus seemed pretty scared andy he seemed very scared he did not seem scared that man was tap dancing around auditioning how did the man seem scared when he showed up at a sur le table event what was the event what was it it was a

Speaker 1 It was a waffle battle between Charles and Kelly

Speaker 1 at a Williams Sonoma. At a Williams Sonoma, right.
So it was a Williams Sonoma.

Speaker 1 He broke through security or whatever at this William Sonoma to come be on camera. And then when he didn't get his chance, turned a whole toast into it.
So this man was not scared. Can we stop?

Speaker 1 He was not scared. He was only scared after Charles walked up to him and was like, get the fuck out of my event.
And Angel's like, no, no, no, I got to shoot a scene with him. No, he gets to stay.

Speaker 1 So then he was like, he was like rattled and they had to like coax him out with like a juice box or something.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 Drew was like,

Speaker 1 yeah, I don't know where he came from, but, you know, she has hands. So, you know, I don't know.
And Phaedra's very scary. And, you know, they reach very far her hands.

Speaker 1 And he's like, okay, well, Cynthia.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you can move your mouth today. It seems a bit frozen, but do you think Phaedra was behind this?

Speaker 1 And Cynthia's like, well, first of all, I think Cynthia just had like fresh Botox or something because that like she she seemed pained to open up her mouth and she's like well i think if if angela set this up it would be the biggest heist of all time because i still don't know who actually did it i mean i was just trying to make sense like what is the why who is the when where is the how well you just said everything she was just trying to figure out so who knows where to the who who to the why Why do the where?

Speaker 1 Which which? Why to the where? Which which? Quizness.

Speaker 1 So Porsche's like, we need a motive. That's all we need.
I need motive.

Speaker 1 And Cynthia's like, well, I thought her spot was secure. So, and Phaedra's like, it is very secure.

Speaker 1 This is all just crazy. So, what did Kelly think? Who does Kelly think did it? I think that Kelly looks as guilty as anybody because Kelty, Kelty, sorry, Kelty from Kelly.
It was Kelty.

Speaker 1 It's her friend Kelty. Lady World.
Oh, my God. She was trying to draw publicity for Lady World.
The girl gang did it. The girl gang.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 Kelly, I think Kelly probably has more of a motive because it was her event it was her party she controlled the guest list and she had an alliance with the other girls angela wasn't in that alliance so

Speaker 1 why isn't anybody questioning kelly i think kelly gets away with a lot more than she should that's that's all i'm saying i think kelly i think kelly is a little shadier than people are giving her credit for she probably is i think there are three

Speaker 1 suspects here. I think Phaedra, I think the most incriminating thing about Phaedra is that she knew exactly who this person was and knew exactly how to send Angela to him.

Speaker 1 But then again, production probably just told her. Then you have Kelly.
It was Kelly's event, Kelly's guest list. How did he get in? So Kelly looks really bad.

Speaker 1 And then there's also, Kelly says she thought it was Brit. And, you know, well, Britt isn't there to defend herself, which actually is an easy...
target, an easy, easy fall girl for Kelly.

Speaker 1 But Britt is also the most vindictive of this entire bunch. So maybe it was Britt.

Speaker 1 But, because I don't know what the motive would be for Kelly to go after Angela.

Speaker 1 Kelly and Angela don't really have much beef They don't even seem to interact very much Britt and Angela have more of a beef though And I don't know if Shamia Shamia's got other fish to fry I mean boring

Speaker 1 boring fish that sometimes sing

Speaker 1 boring boring bass fish like bass singing singing bass fish on walls in cabins and dad cabins across America But I think people this is this is obvious this is all obvious obfuscation.

Speaker 1 Sorry The real thing we should be wondering, listen, did you see the waiter on the TikTok? The waiter at Marcus's restaurant? First of all, I don't suggest you watch it.

Speaker 1 It's probably the longest TikTok I've ever watched. It was not, he needs brevity.
Waiter,

Speaker 1 order this waiter some brevity. Okay.
Not that I really wanted to talk about it. Too courses of this is longer than the TikTok.

Speaker 1 But he got on there and he's like, let me tell you the real tea on what went down. I was like, could you speak faster? Because I'm exhausted already.
So basically, he said he was the waiter.

Speaker 1 What's his buns did come in there with some beautiful woman, have lunch. Marcus made a big deal and started making calls.
Okay, that was the long and the short of it. So Marcus did it.

Speaker 1 And also, this is

Speaker 1 getting away from the fact that Charles did show up at a restaurant with some beautiful woman. So if that's the fight, then have that be the fight.

Speaker 1 And I think Charles is allowed probably to show up at restaurants with beautiful women. Maybe it was his daughter.
Maybe it was his sister. Maybe it was his agent.

Speaker 1 Fuck face. I mean, who the fuck knows? You know, but Angela's made this now.
So they're all fighting. And it's this big mystery.
So people aren't worried about her husband.

Speaker 1 So is the person who's guilty really Angela? I mean, let's think about this who has the most

Speaker 1 pain here

Speaker 1 Maybe Charles sent Marcus. Maybe Charles is like, I'm gonna send Marcus.
It'll drive a wedge and I can finally leave this lady. It's driving me nuts who claims that she's my wife.
Maybe, yeah.

Speaker 1 So Kelly's like, maybe it was Cynthia Cynthia all along. Oh, that would be good if it was Cynthia.
She's like Kaiser Soze.

Speaker 1 She like leaves the reunion with a limp and then all of a sudden like 10 feet away, she starts walking again, but then she she starts limping again because she's like actually that really hurt

Speaker 1 And Angela's like well you think it's Britt but Britt said it was you because she said to check the person that wrote the guest list and Kelly was like well It's definitely not me and so Phaedra says well obviously there was a master list Which made me think it was Phaedra again because who says that there was a master list like maybe we were all going off different lists, but there was one master list.

Speaker 1 One list to rule them all. So Angel's like, so you met somebody, put him there, though.
That's what you're saying. Somebody put him there.
She's like, stop putting words in my mouth.

Speaker 1 She's like, but you told me, you're the one who told me all the information about him.

Speaker 1 She goes, what information did I give to you aside from his name, his email, his social media, his address, and his place of work? I don't even know this person.

Speaker 1 But I actually loved it because she goes, you gave me his name. And she goes, he introduced himself, Angela.
Like,

Speaker 1 he literally came to the table and said, I'm Marcus from Chili's. Okay.
She's like, well, then you knew where he worked and his name. She's like, he offered me an awesome blossom, Angela.

Speaker 1 And he's like, all right, I want to move on because I'm bored with this. And I got a threatening message from someone who said they have hands and it was not on my grinder.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So I don't think we're going to solve this. I'm owned by someone with a huge penis named Junebug.
So

Speaker 1 at least I got something out of this.

Speaker 1 So where do you stand with the ladies in the group, Angela? And she's like, well, I feel like there's still more issues that need to be ironed out, but I feel like we can move forward as a group.

Speaker 1 It's like, all right, great. Kelly's like, Can I say something?

Speaker 1 When you made that comment of, you know, me wishing bad on your marriage, I think you said it on the after-show.

Speaker 1 And then we see Angela, you know, talking on the after-show, saying, like, at the Bailey queue, that Kelly gave her a whole dissertation about how she and Charles are about to get a divorce and have a side, and he has a side baby.

Speaker 1 And, and, you know, and then, and Angela said, you're going to end, or you're going to end up like me. And I pray for you.
I'm like, bitch. Or I guess Kelly said that to Angela.

Speaker 1 And Drew was like, who says that? So now back to the president. Kelly's like, I never said that.
And I just want you to know I never compared my marriage or your marriage to my marriage.

Speaker 1 I never, ever, ever did that. And there's honestly not even any footage that could even refute my point, which is a very solid point.

Speaker 1 Cut to

Speaker 1 this moment that resonated with Angela. I just want to tell you, Angela, I have been you.
I've been in your position, and I pray that you don't get to the position that I am an

Speaker 1 like literally comparing herself. Literally says everything she denies she ever said.
And she's like, you gave a whole speech from everyone at the Bailey queue.

Speaker 1 And Kelly's like, well, I mean, so let me say this. If I said that, you know, because I don't recall saying it.
She's like, you. Said it.
And I'm surprised no one backed her up.

Speaker 1 Like, they were all there. She goes, well, it was in no way, shape, or form to disrespect your marriage.
So if I said it, I apologize.

Speaker 1 It was only meant to show you that you have a very flimsy relationship with your husband, but not in a disrespectful way. That's all.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's kind of what, that's kind of Kelly's MO. She says things and she's like, what? No, I didn't.
I never said that. And if I said it, I didn't mean it like that.

Speaker 1 I was just trying to have fun. Like when I said, Porsche, why'd you steal that man's husband? I was like, oh, isn't this fine? That's fine.
I was trying to be your friend.

Speaker 1 I was trying to be your friend, person.

Speaker 1 And she's like, no, you definitely said it. Well, I don't know.
I could have been grilling hot dogs. Maybe I was attracted.
And it's like, all right.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 I'm going to have to get a hundred hot dogs on Cynthia's enormous sectional that nobody could escape that entire baby.

Speaker 1 I can't stand those Cynthia parties. You know it's humid in there.
You can just tell it's humid in her house. And people are like, why is it so humid in here?

Speaker 1 She goes, well, you know, the air conditioner's on Fritz. I bet she always has her air conditioner on Fritz.
I'm telling you this right now. Really? I love that house.
That's like my

Speaker 1 lake house. It's a nice house, but it's always too cramped for the parties.
She always invites too many people for that house.

Speaker 1 They all have to cram onto that sectional, and then there's always too many people in the kitchen. You can just tell.
It's just one of those houses.

Speaker 1 Those are also when those open concept layouts don't really pay off when you're having a party because then it's like the kitchen staff standing around staring at everybody fighting.

Speaker 1 And it's just weird. Exactly.

Speaker 1 It's a beautiful house. I'm just saying that every time she has a party, there's so many people there.
And you just know it's a little bit more humid than you want.

Speaker 1 You never quite have the seating that you want. You have to eat food off of like a paper plate that's balanced on your knees, and things are falling.

Speaker 1 And there's probably some dog licking at you, licking your calves.

Speaker 1 So then Andy is like, Okay, well, flat from Bush says, Angela, you are a gorgeous woman. Well, goddamn, you're old.
Why are you saying you're 43, you fucking liar? God, Angela is old, older than time.

Speaker 1 Angela, you are older than the word a minute. You are so old, Angela.
Oh my god, Methuselah. Hey, someone come get Methuselah cane

Speaker 1 uh no i'm not old here hold on let me get my birth certificate i just i made a copy of it with some carbon paper hold on one second so she uh she's the only birth certificate of me of those feet those are some big feet those baby feet took up the entire birth certificate those are the biggest baby feet did you just get this birth certificate are those your adult feet those are huge

Speaker 1 is that stand i feel like i don't have feet on my birth certificate.

Speaker 1 I don't remember there being feet on mine. I do.
Complete with little webbed toes, like a little half duck. Oh, little chubby duck.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so I think those are adult feet. She's like, my name is Angela, and I have feet.
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Speaker 1 All right. Well, guess what? And who wants to know Angela's middle name? And Kelly goes, Renee.
He's like, no,

Speaker 1 it's Dion. And everyone's like, okay.

Speaker 1 I think we're all expecting something crazy. Like,

Speaker 1 I don't know, Butros Butchoscali or something. It's like, Dion.
I'm like, okay, cool. So he's like,

Speaker 1 so then he reveals she was born in 1981.

Speaker 1 And he's like, Phaedra, you called Angela the oldest looking young woman you've ever seen.

Speaker 1 Would you care to comment? Have you seen Jessica Beale?

Speaker 1 And Phaedra's like, well, I'd like to clarify that. That was after the whole allegations thing that I said that.
And she's like, oh, really? Well, you came in the game looking old too.

Speaker 1 So if I look 53, you look 63. And Phaedra's like,

Speaker 1 okay, well, I guess I deserve that. Okay, add it up.
Do the math. Whatever.

Speaker 1 So she's like, whatever it is, just add 10, honey. So Angela, okay, Angela, Shamia really shaded your nose.
She called it retro. She said it was a nose from the 90s.

Speaker 1 And Shamia's like, yeah, I definitely was being shady.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 we see a flashback to her calling it like a Latoya nose. And Andy's like, what year was it from, by the way? And just like, oh, it's from 2017 because Charles got...

Speaker 1 What is this question? When was your nose job? Do we have a...

Speaker 1 It wouldn't be a reunion if Andy wasn't asking them about when parts of their bodies were inserted.

Speaker 1 When did you get those boobs? Love your boobs. When'd you go?

Speaker 1 What iOS is your nose running right now? Did you get the new model? No, it's 2017. You're due for an upgrade.

Speaker 1 How many cameras does your BBL have?

Speaker 1 Tell me the truth. But I love that marking it like, oh, it's from 2017.
I remember because Charles got it. So must have been in the Charles years.

Speaker 1 And so he's like, okay, well, Trini from Dad says, Angela, have you ever checked with your doctor lately that your hotness is not only because of your physical appearance, but you are in perimenopause?

Speaker 1 How come we call it perimenopause instead of pre-menopause?

Speaker 1 When did that happen?

Speaker 1 Do you know the answer to that? Because all my friends are in perim, and I'm like, well, who's in pre? Is that a different thing? Is that like a different stage?

Speaker 1 I wonder how Perry Gillipin feels about it. So Angela is like...

Speaker 1 It's like the menopause where you start solving things. You're like, hey, wait a minute, who drank milk out of the carton?

Speaker 1 Are there any more famous Perries after Perry Mason and Perry Men

Speaker 1 Perry Yilpin? Wait, there's a Perry. Isn't there a singer?

Speaker 1 Isn't there an old standard singer, Perry Como?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Perry Como.
And that's it. That's all the Perry is.
Those three copies over. Commodore Perry.

Speaker 1 Perry Ellis.

Speaker 1 So she's like, yes, I'm paramenopausal. And Phaedra's like,

Speaker 1 I see you all.

Speaker 1 Oh, think twas. Just another day for you and me and Perimenopause dice.

Speaker 1 Sorry. I had to get that out.
So they're all

Speaker 1 talking about their perimenopause. And Angela's like, oh, well, it can start at 36, you know.
And now I'm starting a fan line, and it's called Fangie. So everyone's like,

Speaker 1 everyone applauds. I was like, yay, Fangy, I see what you did there.
That was good. Thank God.
You found a way to enter the small fan market.

Speaker 1 Thank God.

Speaker 1 It's a really tough one to get into.

Speaker 1 She's like, I was actually quite happy to meet someone with hands because that's exactly where my fan fits.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 yeah, she's going to be a real pioneer. I look forward to her on Shark Tank.

Speaker 1 Fans are a a two billion dollar industry

Speaker 1 so now there's talking about the rental properties and she's like what rental properties i had to walk away so i guess they sold them at a loss because i don't know what walk away

Speaker 1 when you own all these properties you can't just walk away did you give them to the bank did you sell them at a loss like what was i need answers i'm i'm in this for the hgtv of it all i really loved angela for having all those houses she couldn't afford and being so honest about it i really wanted to see that work.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I really like that she didn't try to fake it with us and try to say, well, we just signed a deal because that's what Drew would have done.

Speaker 1 She would have been like, well, I'm happy to announce that Ralph and I have decided to take the houses off the market because we like them so much, we've decided to keep them.

Speaker 1 That's what she would say. And then the next day it'd be like, foreclosed.
But Angela's like, yeah, no, these houses. They suck and they suck the life out of me.

Speaker 1 And so funny because she opened the season with like, her whole thing was like, i'm in real estate and i know what i'm doing and i got my money by doing real estate and i'm on top of it and she ended the season being like i've got four houses i can't sell in there in foreclosure i'm done with it well it was a season where not a ton happened but for angela it was like a speed season because multiple seasons were crammed in here i mean she's got the husband who visibly hates her i mean it usually takes a few years for that to gestate you know but that's that's here already she had the real estate career that's already down the tubes she's already in the like, you hired people to come after me.

Speaker 1 And she's already saying things like, well, we'll continue this next season. We have things to discuss still in my 10th season.
I'm like, how many seasons have you been on here?

Speaker 1 You lived a lot of life for a one-season housewife. She's like the Kimberly Akimbo of housewives.
So Angela is like,

Speaker 1 on top of that.

Speaker 1 For those of you who don't know, that musical is about a little girl who ages very rapidly.

Speaker 1 maybe i should say the jack jack

Speaker 1 that's funny because it's actually true because that's her thing everybody's like how in the world are you 43 she's bringing her birth certificate i still

Speaker 1 mean

Speaker 1 well it's not even like a criticism i'm way older than that i just don't it seems like you're clearly lying about your age like van der pump it's i'm sorry i'm bringing vanderpump up again but she's another one where it's like what like it's clearly not true where she's like i'm the same age as brandy glanville you're like wait a minute i'm the same age as portia kyle's daughter like

Speaker 1 ma'am you know

Speaker 1 so um

Speaker 1 uh but angela does reveal that she lost her mom which i did not know about which is super sad and uh she she says that she came on

Speaker 1 and she had so much promise too she was so funny and shady yeah she was really good and i know that she had like a complicated relationship with her mother too so i'm i'm hoping that like she was able to find some sort of closure because she said that she wanted to come onto the platform, basically the show, with her mom.

Speaker 1 And she wanted her mom to be able to share her story because her mom had a bipolar disorder. And so, um, you know, she was just, she misses her mom and it's really sad.

Speaker 1 And everyone really supports her. Sandy's like, all right.
Well, big hands from Westchester, New York said, Angela, do you feel like Drew had your back the way you had hers?

Speaker 1 There's only one right answer. And the answer is no, because at the bare cue, she left you hanging hanging while you were battling all the girls and was singing all the spirituals in her confessional.

Speaker 1 And he cuts a drew and be like,

Speaker 1 So Angel's like, No, I did not feel badly, badly singing spiritual.

Speaker 1 When they showed that clip, I was like, Oh, hold on, surely they'll play that again when they show Drew dissing Shamia singing, but they didn't. Which

Speaker 1 I think production likes Drew.

Speaker 1 They, they, maybe,

Speaker 1 maybe.

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 1 because it could

Speaker 1 I haven't, I don't have a hot take on that. I'm like, does production like Drew or does production not like Drew?

Speaker 1 She gives them a lot of stuff to work with. So I think they might like her for that.
So Angela

Speaker 1 into it. She's not into Drew.
She's like, Drew didn't have my back. And Drew's like, yes, I did.
I even tried to get Marcus to do whatever for you. And I was there.
I was there with you.

Speaker 1 And she's like, until the end.

Speaker 1 And she's like, true, but you guys are accusing me of leaving, you know, during that Marcus confrontation. But I was trying to find Marcus to come back and have the confrontation.

Speaker 1 That's why I'm laughed.

Speaker 1 No, the point, I think that Angela was saying that,

Speaker 1 and we have to go back and look at the tape, but she's, Angela's saying that once they brought Marcus to the group, that Drew disappeared. And like, when Marcus was saying it was Phaedra, that like...

Speaker 1 Angela was the one who had to stand there and be like, see, see everyone? He said it was Phaedra and like Drew was nowhere to be found to be like, yeah, I was there. This is what he said.

Speaker 1 And he seemed totally, he seemed scared. And it seemed like very true.
Everything he said, it all backs it all like

Speaker 1 Drew left Angela hanging on this whole thing completely. Even in the last segment, even earlier in this segment, when Angela was saying all the stuff, Drew could have been like, We were both there.

Speaker 1 We looked at the text messages. We heard like he was telling Drew was silent.
She let Angela just die on this hill.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 so, um, Cynthia's, I guess, Angela, you know, you rode for Drew, and she didn't ride for you. There was a who's to the where.
That's my question. What is the whiz?

Speaker 1 Whiz is the what? Who is the who?

Speaker 1 Do you understand me? Like, not really. Drew's like, I do not.

Speaker 1 Drew's like, well, we're building a genuine friendship. And it felt like I didn't have your back, which, by the way, you're building.

Speaker 1 Oh, so now you're not even, you don't even have the genuine friendship. You're just building it now.
Because when she came on to the season, it was that you guys did have a genuine friendship.

Speaker 1 And Angela was like right out of the gate defending Drew with people she didn't even know out of loyalty to Drew. And now Drew is suddenly saying that they're building a genuine friendship.

Speaker 1 And she goes, and if you felt like I didn't have your back, I apologize.

Speaker 1 You know, I couldn't show up for you in the capacity in which I would love to because, well, I'll be honest, I left something downstairs in the basement and Ralph would not open up that door.

Speaker 1 And I just was delayed. I was literally, I couldn't show up literally because I didn't have my car keys to show up.

Speaker 1 So then Shamia is like, well, can I just say that I don't want you to think that this is me defending Portia again?

Speaker 1 But why is it okay for you to excuse away not supporting Angela because of what you're going through? But when it came down to me and Portia, you guys picked it apart and talked about how lopsided.

Speaker 1 Shamia, Shamia, this is nothing to do with that. I'd like to do that.
This is nothing to do with that.

Speaker 1 It made me crazy because it's not like that. It's not the same thing.
And I don't want to talk about your relationship with Portia anymore. It's so boring.

Speaker 1 Why are you trying to get back to that? That's a different thing. That's a family having fun.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's fair. I don't really care too much about Shamia and Portia terribly.

Speaker 1 And she is, she did just wedge something in but i do love when people um force drew to confront her own hypocrisy and basically she's saying you know when portia didn't have the energy like like you made it seem like i was in like like i was in this uh lopsided friendship because i was always defending portia and she didn't defend me and you like you were trying to like stir something up like look how bad it is but when you're in a lopsided friendship with angela you're just like well you know i'm going through a lot so that's how it was and i just liked I liked Shamia just using this to put Drew on the defense because Drew is full of so much shit.

Speaker 1 And I just, I don't like it when she just says her bullshit and just thinks she can get away with it.

Speaker 1 So I was like, I'm happy for Shamia to step in right now, even if it is extremely self-serving and she's trying to pivot away into her, into her conversation. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So Drew's like, oh, God, please, no one was trying to pick it apart. She's like, yes, yes, yes, it did.
And then the questions came.

Speaker 1 And she's like, oh, God, now you're going to open a can of worms, Shamia. You don't want to open this can of worms.
And she's like, oh, really? Well, then I'll own my part.

Speaker 1 She goes, well, what part are you going to own? And then she's like, you be quiet. There was definitely questions.
And Drew's like, girl, don't lie in my face. I'm not going to let you lie in my face.

Speaker 1 Right after this commercial break, I'm going to, I'm going to expose all the lies that you've told me. And Shamia's like, oh, really? Then expose the lies.

Speaker 1 And she goes, I'm going to right after this Phaedra Doritos commercial. So we do that.
And then we come back. And she's like, so there.
Okay, let's move on. I was like, where were the lies?

Speaker 1 What was this? You had a full commercial break. I got no lies.

Speaker 1 No, no lies. I felt very

Speaker 1 by that whole segment. And he's like, all right, let's talk about something else.
Phaedra, why did you choose to come to this reunion and skip that on marriage and medicine?

Speaker 1 And Pedra's like, well, I had no.

Speaker 1 They didn't want me there. And you have to remember, I was...
Coming off the high of Traders, a much more popular show. And I'm only going to go to reunions of highly rated Bravo shows at the moment.

Speaker 1 Although, actually, Marriage Medicine is very highly rated. But I think she was like, I want to be able to do it.
I beat this one, I think. I think Marriage Minister is.

Speaker 1 Is it really beating this one though?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. I think it's higher rated than Mitchell.
People really love Dr. Simone giving group therapy on a Caribbean beach.
Sisters.

Speaker 1 We are sisters. This is a sisterhood.

Speaker 1 I mean, gotta love it. Same storyline every single season.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 that show makes me laugh.

Speaker 1 It's funny. This season was especially good with Quad's new man going after dr gregory on the beach yak

Speaker 1 i like that dr gregory tried to do a push-up competition with an actual ex-nfl and dr gregory song that he wrote i'm a man

Speaker 1 i'm a man

Speaker 1 which let's not forget scott's original song that he started the season with it was a lot of

Speaker 1 it actually was a pretty funny season The point is, Phaedra's like, I did not like, they didn't want me. I didn't like them.
They tried to be messy with me.

Speaker 1 And if I'm going to be messy, I better be doing it on a Real House-wise franchise. So that's why I am here.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So then we move into a silly segment about Kelly's nicknames from Porsche,

Speaker 1 Strawberry Shortcake and a Garden Gnome and Tinkerbell and all that good stuff. And Kelly's like, well, I'm a fabulous garden gnome.
The most fashionable garden gnome. So I guess it worked out for me.

Speaker 1 And he's like, all right, well, Phaedra, you took kind of a big sister role after rooming with Britt and Grenada. Why did you feel like she needed that?

Speaker 1 Pedro's like, well, I saw that she was self-sabotaging on the trip. And so I saw that she was kind of, you know, making enemies.
And the producer said, someone's got to talk to her.

Speaker 1 So could you do it? I was like, okay, sure.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 you're in a restaurant and you look at that poster of a person choking and somebody coming behind to help. There isn't a face on that choking person.
You save whoever it is. She was choking.

Speaker 1 And I helped her. I squeezed until a tiny piece of meatball flew out of her mouth, Andy.
You're welcome, Britt. Wherever you are, you're welcome.

Speaker 1 They are literally acting like Phaedra was the therapist in Goodwill Hunting. It's like all it was was a conversation in a car where she's like, Um, if you want respect, you got to show respect.

Speaker 1 If you want people to like invite you to places, you got to invite them first to your place.

Speaker 1 You remember, you're the newbie here, and these people have all been around for a long time, so don't act so entitled. Like, it was such a

Speaker 1 quick, pretty basic, you know, you know, piece of advice. And they're like, it was basically, it was basically like, stand and deliver.

Speaker 1 But Edward James almost just stood up and he was like, here's what you need, kids. Charcuterie.

Speaker 1 Charcuterie.

Speaker 1 He was like that Michelle Pipeline. Oscar.

Speaker 1 So, um, uh,

Speaker 1 yeah, so Portia's like, yeah, because like Nini off camera gave me that advice, but like, that was the first time I saw that advice on camera, you know, to help somebody not crash out, you know, who's who's clearly crashing out.

Speaker 1 I'm like, did that stop Britt from crashing out? Because or Porsche, pretty

Speaker 1 sure

Speaker 1 Porsche had been fired for literally beating people up on this show. I think I think that advice didn't really work for either one of you.

Speaker 1 I'm not sure Atlanta is the show where we've seen people hold back from crashing out. It's just not really part of the show's DNA.
So, uh, Kelly.

Speaker 1 So they're basically talking about trying to help Brit, and then Shami is like, well, but she had everything to say ill about you and I defended you and here you are trying to help her and you're coming for me and she said as soon as Phaedra comes at you sideways I'm gonna give it to her ass because I'm always on the phone with her and in the public seat and I said well Phaedra and I are in a good place and whatever happened between me and Phaedra happened years ago so I don't need you to so I saved you from Brit and meanwhile you're saving Brit from everybody else so I just don't get it

Speaker 1 at which point all of the viewing audience was like what happened with Phaedra and Shamia? Do they have something happened? So Phaedra's like, well, at the end of the day, you get nothing for nothing.

Speaker 1 And you will have experiences with everybody in this group, but what I've seen is a lot of people making strong conclusions about people based on one experience.

Speaker 1 You know, so you make up a rumor about a sex dungeon and accuse other people of, I don't know, drugging other people and having sex. Just one experience.
Don't make these big accusations.

Speaker 1 And Angel's like, is that directed towards me? And she's like, well, it could be. Yeah, that too.
Could be that too.

Speaker 1 Pedro's like, you know, what I'm saying is we did have a bad experience, but even after all that, when I reached out to you and when I heard your mama was dying, I hope you know that was real when I reached out to you.

Speaker 1 And Angel's like, well, I hope it was. And she's like, well, no, it was.
Look, we'll be petty. We'll be shady and that's fine.
But like, life is too short.

Speaker 1 to lose a friendship over absolutely nothing because you're going to hear you're here today gone tomorrow especially if you mess with the cock face with the hands if you know what i'm saying yeah you're here today you're gone tomorrow.

Speaker 1 And when you are gone, I hope your family calls Phaedra and Phaedra funeral parlor to bury you for good. With no one, no one can send you off as gloriously as me.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 Precisely. Ground, I'd just like to say, charcuterie, go forth.

Speaker 1 Go forth.

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