#2933 RHOC S19E02 Part 1: Hot Pot, Meet Kettle

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Speaker 2 Well, hello, and welcome to Watch What Crappens! I'm Ronnie, and that's Ben over there. Hello, Ben.

Speaker 2 Hello, welcome back, my sweet Rondola. How are you?

Speaker 2 It's so good to see your little face it's been so horrible spending a whole week speaking to people other than you

Speaker 2 can you see my face through those angie k sunglasses i can yes i can see your face i've got so much light on flaring in my face but yeah i'm in angie's sun and angie k sunglasses that a listener gave us because i got my eyes my eyelids cut off i had my eyelids ripped off and when i tell you the doctor who did it was the hottest fucking guy i think he messed up one of my eyes and i still could not stare it.

Speaker 2 And then I went to like the checkup thing where they look at your eye and he was staring into my eyes while we talked and I was like, I'm in love.

Speaker 2 And then I was telling my sister and she's like, I think he was staring into your eyes because he's an eye doctor. And I was like, oh yeah, yeah.
So

Speaker 2 is he hotter than you with that sexy mustache you're rocking right now?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I've got a mustache.

Speaker 2 You know, change it up a little bit. Why not? You're going to have some ladies in the audience and some men as well.
They're going to be, they are going to be killing things, Ronnie.

Speaker 2 I'm telling you, this is a very sexy look you've got going on cool sunglasses mustache it's like you went you got your eyes it was like it's like uh urkel's uh other like twin came by wasn't

Speaker 2 raquel

Speaker 2 remember like steve urkels just got back

Speaker 2 putting me in the urkel pen can i have a minute

Speaker 2 but yeah it was it was really fun my first little dip into real house-sized plastic surgery surgery, you know, now I have a whole list of shit.

Speaker 2 Although it hurt a couple of things, it hurt more than I thought. Like the recovery hurt more than I thought.
And the other thing was it didn't really do as much as I thought.

Speaker 2 I really thought that I was going to come out looking like a different person. And I look the same.
I mean, I'm not showing you right now because I'm all bruised up, but I'm, I look exactly the same.

Speaker 2 But I mean, I don't know. It was an experience, I guess.
I think you'll probably notice some differences once it heals up and maybe some swelling goes down.

Speaker 2 You're going to notice like some subtleties because even the smallest like millimeter of change on someone's face everyone you can just notice you just see it you know think about all the times when you you're so used to seeing yourself in the mirror and then when you see yourself um like with proper like through a camera i mean admittedly that's a big difference but like it shouldn't be that different really but it's like i look like a monster you know i'm like

Speaker 2 wait is this how people see me i'm used to my mirror version so like a few millimeters can change everything so i think once that swelling goes down and everything um you know you we might see some, some, some slight changes there.

Speaker 2 Well, who knows? I hope it's not like when you're walking on the street and you pass a glass building, you know, like a reflective building, and then you see yourself and you're like, oh my God.

Speaker 2 I know. You know, you're like horrified by yourself.
I hope it's not like that. Like I wake up one day and that happened.
But anyway, thanks to everybody who came and filled in.

Speaker 2 You guys did such a good job. You know, we're really lucky.
doing what we do. A, that we get to do what we do and just sit here and laugh with each other all day.
You know, that's so great.

Speaker 2 And I really do, when I was away for a week, I, because we have time off before this too, for the holiday.

Speaker 2 And so I've really become so much more appreciative of this gig, but also the friends that we've met along the way, you know, and the people that we can ask to come pitch hit and

Speaker 2 just like that. And they show up and they do such a good job.
I mean, everybody was great. And I've been reading the, you know, the comments.
to everybody about everybody who showed up.

Speaker 2 And, you know, we're really lucky to have that. So thank you, everybody.
Yeah. Thank you to our audience for being like a chill audience that like

Speaker 2 is like does did not like make our lives hell by being like, How could you do this? Everyone was very chill. And I want to give a shout out.

Speaker 2 I'm gonna give it, I'm gonna give a shout out to all our guests right now: Hunter Harris, Diallo Riddle, Amy Phillips, Diamond Cooper, Andrew Puglisi, Eric Williams, Ash and Elena from Morbid, um, Dylan, Dylan Hafer, Danny Murphy, um,

Speaker 2 and I think that was it actually, and Kiki Monique for Crappy Hour. So

Speaker 2 why am I sound like I'm giving an Academy Award? Thank you, acceptance speech.

Speaker 2 But I really do like it. I don't know why it feels like it, but it does, you know.

Speaker 2 It was cool that all these people really like like dropped, kind of dropped everything and like joined us and helped out. So I really appreciate that.
Yeah. Thanks, team.

Speaker 2 And go listen to all their respective podcasts and follow them on social media because they're all really great people.

Speaker 2 And I know we tend to wander around in recaps anyway and, you know, tell little stories and hear and this and that.

Speaker 2 This one's probably going to meander forever i've missed so much i can't believe how much i have to say oh my gosh i have to say your surgery came at a at a at a unique time because you missed the premiere of orange county the finale of love island the premiere of well i don't know if it really counts we did but the the the love island beyond the villa we didn't really even talk about that um but it was like it was sort of hilarious i was like oh no i feel like ronnie's gonna like miss so many like big exciting things but the good news is that like the orange county premiere was great, but this episode that we're about to recap, I think, is even better.

Speaker 2 The Return of Gretchen, I mean, this episode was, this was a good one. Yeah, this was a good one.
All right, let's jump into it.

Speaker 2 Let's get into it. Here we are, Real Housewives of Orange County, season 19, episode 2: Old Faces, New Places.
I cannot believe the housewives let them get away with a title called Old Faces. I know.

Speaker 2 That's a especially.

Speaker 2 It's a real shocker.

Speaker 2 but they did. They got away with it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, because this is the big Gretchen Returns episode. So you got, you got a milestone in.
You didn't miss this milestone.

Speaker 2 This is a big, they think this is probably the most important milestone of the week. I mean, yeah, love island finale, whatever.

Speaker 2 Look, how about this? Why don't we give you, we'll do a quick bonus round with you, flash, flash judgments or snap judgments or you just bonus round,

Speaker 2 you answer this. Okay.
Thoughts on the OC premiere?

Speaker 2 Decent, but too many old storylines. They need to come up with something fresh.
And Tamara, nice try on the Tamara 18.0, but you're still a fucking monster. Possum on a trash can.

Speaker 2 Thoughts on Love Island Finale?

Speaker 2 Love the Huda breakup scene when he wouldn't carry her across the water. I died.
I watched it 30 times. And Ace still sucks.
I don't care what anybody fucking says.

Speaker 2 Thoughts on Stephanie snapping at Lisa and also the Lisa narcissism. I mean, the Alexia narcissism party that was also Greek God themed.

Speaker 2 Stephanie's a fucking pip squeak monster who's fucking some old man for his money. I don't care how many different ways she tries to word it, and I can't wait to make fun of her.

Speaker 2 She's humorless, so that might be a problem.

Speaker 2 But I do like her outfits.

Speaker 2 Narcissism party on brand. Loved it.

Speaker 2 Jax has, quote-unquote, quit the valley.

Speaker 2 Good. Fuck you, Jax.
You fucking abusive piece of shit. I hope they send you on a fucking spaceship with Aaron Pfipers into the sun.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's the news that I just read literally two minutes right before this. Aaron Pfipers, what a piece of shit.
What

Speaker 2 a fucking monster. So, yeah, Jack and that guy send them into the sun.
And also, I don't care what anybody says. Janet still sucks.

Speaker 2 I don't care about her whole redemption thing this week of, oh, poor Janet. I have to look at comments that are like, why is your husband with you? You're such a monster.

Speaker 2 And it's all because Kristen did it to me. Kristen's so mean to me.
She's such a bully. Fuck off, Janet.
We hate you because you're you. Okay.

Speaker 2 I don't need anybody on the internet to tell me you suck you suck

Speaker 2 um georgia's plan for opening a club on next-gen new york city

Speaker 2 bowling my mother ronda called this back in the day when we owned skylanes bowling alley you know she was the first person in el paso to come up with midnight bowl and she insisted it would be an amazing club and now all these years later georgia's gonna do it

Speaker 2 galena kills the chickens in the chicken coop or tries to

Speaker 2 Galena's a fucking national hero. I love her.
I hope she runs for president.

Speaker 2 If we can vote this rapist and all this other ass whole that this guy's done in here with his missing epstein files and all this we can have galena bring galena in to kill the chickens that deserve it like fucking to whatever

Speaker 2 to whatever happened on below deck which is probably not much

Speaker 2 um below deck was good i'm really sad that i missed that awful guest dawn because dawn like hey

Speaker 2 hey rainbow you're with me rainbow all the strip club owners i kind of i was kind of sad that i missed that one i'll be honest

Speaker 2 atlanta Reunion.

Speaker 2 They're trying. I can't believe they're doing three hours with nothing, but they did a pretty good job.
Shamia, you're only proving why your basic ass does not deserve that chair or that spot.

Speaker 2 I mean, boring.

Speaker 2 Nice girl. Boring as hell, though.

Speaker 2 Beyond the villa.

Speaker 2 Amazing. At first, I wasn't sure because they barely wear mics.
The recording is terrible. All you hear is echoing.
But then they started fighting about spray tans and glam, and then I was back in.

Speaker 2 And also shout shout out to them spending half the episode driving up and down Santa Monica Boulevard.

Speaker 2 Kings Court, which is the hottest of the three.

Speaker 2 Kings Court, I couldn't take. I'm sure it's good, but I just went through Love Island.
I can't take another dating. So I made it halfway through.

Speaker 2 I don't believe any of those men have trouble getting dates. I

Speaker 2 do believe they have trouble keeping them because they're douchebags. And that includes you, Tyson.
I don't believe Tyson's not a douchebag.

Speaker 2 And just because he cried in the middle of the episode about how traumatized he was, you know what? You were probably traumatized because you're a douchebag. You're a model.

Speaker 2 I don't believe that you're not a douchebag tyson okay but good luck with your show king

Speaker 2 time's up while you got it in just in time wow i'm so impressed we did it

Speaker 2 thank you god that was that was a whole week of pent up it's like joey gorga not being able to you know pull his pud for a while release the poison wow it just goes to show

Speaker 2 so basically the fact that we spend about um you know 20 hours a week talking about like these shows we could also just do do it in about three minutes. Great.
Great to know. Great to know.

Speaker 2 We could just show up once a week for three minutes.

Speaker 2 All right. So last week on Orange County, we had Shannon of all people bringing people to a golden door for hippie stuff so they could restart.

Speaker 2 Shannon, you just yelled at your entire cast of Love Hotel to the point where the host went on a tirade against, a coked out tirade against you online.

Speaker 2 And a year after you crashed into your house and melted down about 10 times over Earl to Pearl. I don't know that you're the one to be hosting this event, but I love you for doing it anyway.

Speaker 2 Yes, we definitely appreciate it. Um,

Speaker 2 so we left off with them there, and now where we pick up, they are, um, they're going to basically walk into one of those like meditation reflective labyrinths that they actually did in Miraval as well, or some of them did.

Speaker 2 I remember Gino did them, the labyrinth, she's like, I feel bad because I'm lost in the labyrinth.

Speaker 2 I feel bad.

Speaker 2 is that an i feel bad rinse because i feel bad

Speaker 2 i feel bad because i can't find david bowie in the labyrinth was a labyrinth on that one just like drawn lines in the sand i don't even think it was like walls or anything it was just like like that was a much more from the back of a cereal box onto the sand I think when people do these things, it's usually just like a, it's concentric circles.

Speaker 2 I'm not even sure if it's really a labyrinth. I think you just go around in circles until you sort of get to the center, but it's called a labyrinth.
I don't know. I haven't actually been part of it.

Speaker 2 I haven't done one, but I do know that usually people cry by the time they get to the end of the labyrinth. So

Speaker 2 I've seen what happens in labyrinths and movies. Nothing ever good happens in a labyrinth.
I literally nothing because, like,

Speaker 2 that's why cities are grids. Because why would we have a labyrinth? I am looking forward to when they inevitably do this on

Speaker 2 the Valley, and then Janet does it and cries, and we can name the episode Fans Labyrinth.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 by the way, I have to say,

Speaker 2 I can hear the collective

Speaker 2 sigh of relief for you being back because I don't think people were very happy with the

Speaker 2 not tearing Janet to shreds element while you were gone.

Speaker 2 Like, the still talking negatively about her, but not like she's a fucking piece of shit, rotten hell, die, die under a carpet that's being run over by a truck.

Speaker 2 Like, if there wasn't that energy, and people i can tell people were like this is not right bring ronnie back so i was like please let's bring the bully back well

Speaker 2 she's janet's

Speaker 2 look she's fucking she is horrible like she is horrible but i i enjoy her horribleness but a lot of people are not people are like no she's horrible and she's not fun to watch yeah she's like satanic she's like satanic secretary you know because she's not fun like satan is at least like fun and creative i mean at least in movies and stuff, the way he kills people and like tricks them and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 So I shouldn't call her Satan because Satan's more fun. But, you know, just like that evil head secretary who never lets you have more than one of the candies because they're for guests.

Speaker 2 She's like one of those, you know? Yes. Or like who like looks at your lunch and then tells everybody what you ate, even though you're supposed to be on a diet.

Speaker 2 Yeah. By the way, I finally saw Sinners.
I've mentioned it on like about three podcasts this week. I just want to let you know I did finally see it.

Speaker 2 Just when you mentioned the devil, I thought of, you know, Janet

Speaker 2 and sinners. How did you like Janet's musical number?

Speaker 2 When she was on that banjo

Speaker 2 seducing Haley Seinfeld, I was like, Janet's doing great. Honestly, like, she may be the devil, but she has a beautiful voice.
Might be worth it.

Speaker 2 Let her in.

Speaker 2 So, yeah. So, anyway, they're doing this labyrinth thing.
And as they're doing it, we're hearing,

Speaker 2 we're hearing like flashbacks to last week because it's kind of like they're doing the labyrinth, but we're also recapping. And

Speaker 2 we hear, we hear like, I want to start over. And like, that girl wasn't tagging me on social media.
I have never called her ever.

Speaker 2 And Katie doing her thing of like, I, I want to exonerate myself, but I don't have any service here. I'm terribly sorry.
Unfortunately, yes, too bad. Can't exonerate myself.
I don't have service.

Speaker 2 If you had any receipts in there, you would have them screenshotted just like the rest of us do, Katie. Now, here's the thing.
We all know Katie's a compulsive liar. You know, Katie's lied.

Speaker 2 She lies a lot, but I'm still on Team Katie.

Speaker 2 katie these these women are terrible and i know that katie was lying but you all deserved it and i don't know how emily can get off saying like oh dare you bring my child into this oh by the way i have a piece of chicken in my purse i'm wacky like emily you know you're you're saying don't bring your children into it but you're bringing your child's eating disorder into it i'm using that for a storyline and you brought her custody into it at the reunion which was really down low of you that was so mean what katie did to her was nothing compared to what she did to katie i wish katie would just have the stones to be like, fuck you.

Speaker 2 What you did was way worse and you owe me an apology, hatchet face, but you have lovely hair.

Speaker 2 Yeah. By the way, I have no objections to Emily bringing her son's eating disorder on screen because I think it's actually very compelling and interesting.
And I applaud her for it.

Speaker 2 But like, I do think, though, you know, sometimes like if you're going to like... If you are going to center your child in your storyline,

Speaker 2 you know, it's just, it feels like you can't call the shots necessarily on that sort of stuff.

Speaker 2 Like, if you, if you want your child to stay out of harm's way, you really just shouldn't have them really be addressed on the show at all in the first place.

Speaker 2 It doesn't mean like, oh, well, she brought on herself, but I'm just saying there is like an element of hypocrisy in this as well. And I also agree 100% that I think, yeah, Katie is lying.

Speaker 2 She's fibbing, but they all do. I mean, hello, look at Tamara.
Look at Tamara, who like, didn't she call the feds on Ryan last year or like, or like looking at her? Or she said she did. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Calling up a private investigator or like, or try or working with Shannon to do that. Like, they all do wretched, wretched things.

Speaker 2 And I think they're just fully deflecting on their own bad behavior because they know that Katie is weak and she's a newbie and that, and that Katie is sloppy.

Speaker 2 She's a sloppy liar and she's caught in all her lies. So they know they've got fresh blood.
And so they're just going after her. But also, what she did is

Speaker 2 baby potatoes. Those were baby potatoes.
That was what Katie did. She told some blogger about a story that your nanny retold about your kids saying that you didn't like Heather Dubrow.
Oh, no.

Speaker 2 You know, like, oh, no.

Speaker 2 I mean, what you did in retaliation was so much fucking worse. And Katie's not even playing on like a master manipulation level.

Speaker 2 She's just like, my kid, my kid really did hear the other kids saying that Emily doesn't like Heather Dubrow. Like, really? You're going to rip the woman apart for that? That's what she did.

Speaker 2 That's her sin. I mean, they're crazy.
So, and then meanwhile, you've got Tamara running around. like still doing her thing of like, oh, you bought my child.

Speaker 2 I can't believe you brought my child into it, which we find out is a lie again, another tamara lie and she's bringing her child into it her child's been begging her to stop bringing her up on tv and tamara's still doing it so all of you complaining about bringing children into it when you're the ones bringing your children into it constantly quiet down over there quiet down i'm so glad to have this show back and i'll tell you one thing i think gretchen came back and she came back strong I'm going to say this right now.

Speaker 2 I think Gretchen came back very strongly. I think we were all kind of expecting Gretchen to be kind of a waste of space because she just sort of has become this like spectral

Speaker 2 like Instagram presence with like a face-tuned face, like a smudge. She's like a smudge.

Speaker 2 She's like that painting that that lady did in that church who tried to fix Jesus' face and turned him into a smudge. That's basically what Gretchen has turned into.
So we sort of imagine that clouds.

Speaker 2 Have you ever seen those clouds where people are like, Jesus, he came back. He's coming out of the clouds.
And it's just kind of a smudge of a cloud with like the sun shining through it.

Speaker 2 That's what, that's what she is. She's, yeah.
yeah. Like, and I think that Gretchen came back with her first season energy because she went her, Gretchen's first season was her best.

Speaker 2 She was really, really so good. And then I think that, like, as Slade got his claws into her, that she did sort of become more and more generic and less interesting.

Speaker 2 Um, and they even said that on the show when they had one of those behind the seasons specials. They said that she really started to produce herself and protect herself.

Speaker 2 And I think that she's now like, she's been in timeout for a long time. She doesn't care anymore.
I think she's also older and wiser. And she just came back and she's like, I have Tamara's number.

Speaker 2 I am not fooled by any of this bullshit the way people like, I don't know, Gina and Emily are. And I'm not going to, I'm, I am not going to let off.

Speaker 2 And I thought it was refreshing and I thought she was strident and like a great, it was a great debut for Gretchen coming back after all these years.

Speaker 2 Does her face remind me of a marshmallow in a microwave? Yes.

Speaker 2 But I loved her coming back with that personality. I was cracking up the whole time.
And you know who else she has on her side now? Jesus. She's got

Speaker 2 her full.

Speaker 2 She has Fox News here. She's come back with her full on, like, this is my Trump era.
I'm going to say Jesus every other sentence and I'm just going to go for it.

Speaker 2 I'm going to make everybody pray at every meal. I mean, you've never met a more self-righteous person than a person like that.

Speaker 2 And I don't mean a Christian. I mean the self-righteous, like overly judgmental, like overly showy religious people.
Okay. I grew up with them.
I still have them around my life.

Speaker 2 And let me tell you, the one that's talking about Jesus the most is the one cheating on their taxes or trying to run homeless people down in crosswalks.

Speaker 2 Always. Or both.

Speaker 2 Or fucking their secretary or whatever else, you know? Everything. So I loved it.
When she started bringing Jesus into fights, I was like, yes.

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Speaker 2 I love this era of crazy Gretchen.

Speaker 2 I think Gretchen was great. And in fact, I felt like, you know, Slade, Slade really has made my skin crawl for so many years, but

Speaker 2 I felt like she was like, I feel like every time in the past where Slade and Gretchen appeared on screen, he always does so much tap dancing and like, look at me, camera, that she also would get lost in those scenes.

Speaker 2 And I think that she actually, she outshone Slade. Like at long last, Slade was just a little, he had as much energy and as much attention as Ryan and Matt in the scene that he was in.

Speaker 2 And that was like very wonderful for me because Slade is, he's too much. He just tries too much.
And maybe he's just exhausted and he's realized that he just, you know, like he's given up maybe.

Speaker 2 But I felt like the dynamic between them was better for me as a viewer. And she was great.
And

Speaker 2 well, he's got like that aging beach boy hair now where he like poofs it up really big. He's got like big hair.
And so I like that.

Speaker 2 And I think the reason his attitude is slightly changed is because for the first time ever, Gretchen and Slade have an army. It's not just them.

Speaker 2 It used to be them coming for Tamara and standing up to Tamra, but now they've got all these, all these ancillary characters who everybody kind of rode off, like Jen Pedrante.

Speaker 2 No one paid her any mind. They just thought, let's just abuse this blonde idiot, you know? And then they've got this Katie girl who they think they could just abuse.

Speaker 2 And I think that Gretchen's like, listen, bring me a couple of B levels and we'll take this shit over. You know, I'm not going to stand for Tamra's bullshit.
And guess Jesus won't either. Tamra.

Speaker 2 It feels, if this feels like some sort of young adult novel or whatever, or maybe like a Game of Thrones thing where it's like they had to resurrect their messianic leader of some sort to go against the big bad.

Speaker 2 And they were like, they like did their ritual and they resurrected Gretchen. They brought her back.
And now she's like like their undead hero that's going to go after the undead villain of Tamara.

Speaker 2 And it's going to be a rape clash. And Tamara knows what's coming because she started the season off with her.
Oh, I can't believe it. Everybody's so mean to me.

Speaker 2 I'm going to stay with me now because I got autisticness. And I'm going to do something.
It's like, shut up. I mean, it's just so, it's so textbook Tamara.

Speaker 2 It just fucking cracks me after that's what she came in with. And it's already crumbled by episode two.
It's already. Yeah.

Speaker 2 No, this season's already just like firing on all cylinders because there's so many, like, inter there's so many interesting um relationships happening because you have Tamara and Shannon are still just trying to like they're just trying to take swipe swipes with each other, they're trying to gain some sort of like upper hand with each other, and then they just use everyone else as pawns.

Speaker 2 And then Heather's somewhere in the mix. I don't know where Heather, where Heather stays in this, but like those two, Tamara and Shannon are like the central like underpinning relationship.

Speaker 2 And anything that Tamara does against Katie is ultimately

Speaker 2 just in service of unraveling Shannon in some way. And that's what we see on this episode as well.
Yeah. So

Speaker 2 anyway, they all set some bullshit intentions on how they want to be better about things, which they don't do at all. And then after all,

Speaker 2 that's never going to happen. No intention on any Housewife show during any one of these like Foofy New Age resorts has ever come true.
No. Not even,

Speaker 2 maybe Gina's did when she went to Bali and felt the wind. And now I don't want to live in fear anymore

Speaker 2 now i'm not scared by the way gina's accent now you've got 10 accents like what is gina even doing like she she's like the brittany of this show where brittany's just like doing her accent more and more she's to the point i don't even know what accent gina's got anymore it's not even long island anymore like she says her a's like e's she's like yeah well it was really scary

Speaker 2 Why are you talking like that? Are you from Minnesota and Long Island? Like, what are you mixing together now?

Speaker 2 Gina is looking more and more like she's in some TNT TV show about the mob. I swear to God.

Speaker 2 Not even like, not even HBO, not even, not even just TMT. Not even

Speaker 2 because I just watched Mobland on my break and it was so good. And I'm like, yeah, Gina wouldn't even make that.
No, she's not on a streamer. No, no.

Speaker 2 She's not on Primal Plus. She's on TMT.
Yeah. So then Emily is like, what is the only positive things in my life?

Speaker 2 And Shanna's like, well, I choose to continue on the healthiest path possible right after this Milky Way. I will take a moment.

Speaker 2 Well, I mean, it might not be the healthiest path, but it is a path. And it's called the Milky Way.
And I choose the Milky Way. I choose that way.

Speaker 2 My way or the Milky Way.

Speaker 2 Jen is like, I am strong. And Katie's like, I am bringing health and positivity.
It's like, nope, none of this is happening.

Speaker 2 So now, after their Golden Door experience comes to a close, we see Shannon driving. She's heading to LAX to pick up Sophie.
So she's talking to her on the phone. And she's like,

Speaker 2 Sophie, how was the flight? Oh, crap. I went the wrong way.
Looks like I'm going the wrong way on the highway. Whoops.
Sorry about that, everyone. I'm talking to my daughter.
She's having a rough day.

Speaker 2 That's it. I can't unset Earl the Pearl's house in Georgia off of my maps.
I can't reset it.

Speaker 2 And then we get to Jen, and she's working out in her backyard, which is a step up from the parking lot she's usually working out in. So that's good.
Yes.

Speaker 2 And, you know, shanna's having her wacky like well i can't find the airport

Speaker 2 where do i go

Speaker 2 i'm wacky i'm driving around lax i'll tell you what's lax the signage around here

Speaker 2 um

Speaker 2 so then we see gina uh at home with her kid and her kid's like mommy the dog poop but at least it's not diarrhea this time she goes yeah you know what we're sitting a really low bar we're sitting a really low bar and then we go back to now Sophie has gotten into Shannon's car because this is like it's punctuated all these things are happening while Shannon's literally picking up Sophie and so Sophie gets in and Shannon's like oh hello look at you um nice to see you we're now where do I go oh fact oh now oh my god I'm driving into the ocean oh Sophie help us all

Speaker 2 she's on the tarmac yeah she's like herbie fully loaded she's under she's under the southwest flame like wait wait a minute

Speaker 2 this overpass is moving

Speaker 2 mother are you just parked on a wing well i well i guess we're getting a flea fright free flight to somewhere

Speaker 2 where in the world is matt lauer except it's shannon we don't talk about matt lauer anymore okay i have no idea how i got lost and how i have some of these delicious dijon mustard twisty pretzels thank you southwest boarding group see kiss my cracker

Speaker 2 excuse me Excuse me, there. You were there in the airplane.
Do you happen to have a Biscoff cookie you can pass through the window over to our car? Sorry, ma'am. This is Southwest.

Speaker 2 We don't do that shit here. You can have some dry ass ginger snaps.

Speaker 2 It tastes like chemicals. Also, if we open up the window, the whole plane goes down.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 It's already on the turn back, but whatever.

Speaker 2 I thought this was my front yard. Oh, okay.
We won't have any biscuits.

Speaker 2 How about this? How about we have some biscuits as in turn on your good attitude? What happened to the customer is always right.

Speaker 2 So then we go over to Omali at Shape Shop

Speaker 2 who opened a place called the Shape Shop. Fuck off.

Speaker 2 That sounds like such a Gina place. Oh my God, I'm going to go buy a Trapezoid.
It's like, no, you don't buy shapes there.

Speaker 2 You guys want to go work at a Shape Shop? We can go to Shake Shack after the Shape Shop.

Speaker 2 Shape Shop. Shape Shop, Shake Shack.
Shake Shop Shape Shop.

Speaker 2 Do you guys want to go to Chop Stop or Shake Shack after the Shape Shop?

Speaker 2 Do you guys know?

Speaker 2 Do you want to go to Shop and Shop afterwards?

Speaker 2 So we go over to Shape Shop, which is basically a place with these big roller things with like,

Speaker 2 I don't know, bumps on them. And then supposedly they roll all over you.
And then they're, they confuse your fat. Are they confusing your fat? What are they doing?

Speaker 2 I think it's supposed to be that that stuff is supposed to like dissolve your fascia. That's like the thing.
It looks like it's, you know what that place is like? It's like, have you ever seen

Speaker 2 a documentary like how things are made?

Speaker 2 And you ever see like a factory and you see a conveyor belt and have you ever said to yourself you know what I want to do I want to put my leg at the end of that conveyor belt and see how that feels that's what the shape shop is it's like get all the fun of of of cuddling up on a conveyor belt without having to go to a factory

Speaker 2 well i don't really have money now to go to a shape shop because i spent it all on my eye but i will tell you i do live on a very steep incline with asphalt so i'm just going to start rolling down that every morning i mean if that's all you need is some bumps to like undo your fat, I'll do it.

Speaker 2 But then how does your fat know what to do once it's been dislodged from the I just don't understand?

Speaker 2 I don't believe it's true.

Speaker 2 Otherwise,

Speaker 2 everybody would be thin. Everyone would be.
Well,

Speaker 2 they walk in, and the girl who works there is like, oh my, they're like, what is this? She goes, it's a full-body lymphatic drainage massage. I'm like, okay.

Speaker 2 What happened to the good old days of just shopping at Zen Sations? You know,

Speaker 2 like, does anybody really need to be in the room while I'm getting a full-body lymphatic drainage massage?

Speaker 2 Am I, am I massaging the lymphatic drainage? It's like, oh, look at this, what just drained out of you. Let's touch it and massage it.

Speaker 2 Could you imagine going to that with me? I don't even know. It was like 20-year-old dominoes seeping out of my port.
I don't even know what the fuck would come out of me. Toxic waste.

Speaker 2 Nobody needs to be around when that's happening. Yeah.
I don't, listen, I've had some Reese sticks. I don't know why.
I don't want to see what they look like. Oh, I had Reese's.
I had Reese's minis.

Speaker 2 Oh, they were so good.

Speaker 2 What a delight. So, and we was like, oh, they got all the Gobi Bears out.
Oh, wacky.

Speaker 2 So they do all this stuff. They're like rubbing up on these like rolling pins, bumpy rolling pins.
And then they go to a different room where they do like.

Speaker 2 infrared light therapy and stuff and they get like their legs wrapped up in those things and stuff and you're just like to be honest i thought we were going to be doing this kind of stuff at the golden door so kudos to you tamra because i see that you're really trying with shannon by the way first of all

Speaker 2 save your yelp reviews for when you actually pay to go to that place next time because you got to go there for free so no complaints gina from the golden door and also

Speaker 2 you got to go on a labyrinth okay just it just just say thank you next time okay it's the first time golden door The first time someone's ever been put into a labyrinth and the labyrinth was the one that was confused.

Speaker 2 It was like the labyrinth Yelp reviews like, what the fuck was that? Were hair extensions? Was it tape? What was that? And what was that accent? Where's that person even from?

Speaker 2 Don't ever let that person back in. They're like, the golden door has shut down.
The labyrinth has shut itself down.

Speaker 2 The labyrinth went to like a labyrinth cocktail party and told the other labyrinth guys. I'm thinking about just being a straight line.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 It's like, I've always heard that expression about... It's going to become a freeway.
Fuck you.

Speaker 2 You know, I always heard that expression about living the straight and going the straight and narrow, but I didn't really realize how it applied to me until Gina.

Speaker 2 So also, while we're at this line, Gina, kudos to you, Tamra, because I see that you're really trying. What have you seen Tamara do that's an effort at all? Tamara has done nothing.

Speaker 2 Tamara did nothing but torture Shannon the entire year last year. And this year she's like, I don't even understand why Shannon is so mad at me.

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 2 This is.

Speaker 2 This is classic Gina. Start of the season, turning on your allies.
Because last season, Gina was on Shannon's side. Shannon had a DUI last season, and Gina was like, I'm going to stand by you.

Speaker 2 I'm realizing you're in a lot of pain. I've been there too.
They were sitting on the same sofa together at the reunion. There is everything.
And now Gina's like, you know what?

Speaker 2 The way you stood up to Shannon, I see you're like really trying without a wall.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you're really trying to figure it out.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you know, and you're not letting people activate you the way that you were last year. You're so different now.
Gina doing that thing where she has nothing.

Speaker 2 So she's just going to come start shit with everybody else, which I kind of support. So Gina's like, do you believe that Katie didn't talk to the blogger? And Emily's like, fuck that, she did.

Speaker 2 Oh, you know what? I didn't like Shannon standing up for Katie. I mean, what the hell? We're not allowed to bully people anymore.
We're changing the whole show.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Time's like, yeah, she was trying to make it seem like a gang up, but all it was was all of us just ganging up on her.
It's not a gang up. Right, Batch?

Speaker 2 And And Gina's like, yeah, it wasn't a gang up. I mean, you were hurting everybody.
And now we want to address it with you. And you want to sit there and victimize yourself.

Speaker 2 Says Gina, who's always, first of all, this is exactly what she said about Jen last year. She's like, oh, so you can't bet your rats are going to victimize yourself.
And who did she hurt?

Speaker 2 Who did Katie hurt? She's like,

Speaker 2 she hurt all of us. She literally, like, all she did was she just told the nanny, oh, yeah, there's this podcast you can talk to.
Like, who the fuck cares?

Speaker 2 And you're bringing more attention to it now on your show. No one listened.

Speaker 2 Tell me who listened to a nanny on a random podcast, even if it's not a random podcast. I don't remember what podcast it was, but tell me who really even remembered.

Speaker 2 You're bringing more attention. It's a good podcast.
I think. I mean, I think she has like a big thing, you know.
Oh, you're right. It was Bravo Babe.

Speaker 2 I didn't mean to shade Bravo Babe, but I meant like, it's a good job. But I meant just like

Speaker 2 bringing attention to it. It doesn't seem like it's this private entity that nobody can get a hold of.
You know how you can get a hold of Julia Roberts?

Speaker 2 Go on to fucking Instagram and be like, hey, bitch, I didn't like you. I'm pretty woman.
And she'll write you back, go fuck yourself. I know.
Also, thirsty. It's just kidding.

Speaker 2 But they're acting like, oh my God, how did you get the number to this blocker? You go on to fucking Instagram. How do you, how else do you think Nikki Minaj is telling Sizza off right now?

Speaker 2 That's exactly what I was going to say. She doesn't have her home number.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I was like, this is just like Nicki Minaj and Sizza.

Speaker 2 But I, um, I,

Speaker 2 you can tell I've been spending a lot of time scrolling through news on on I'm like, you've been at home. So, you know,

Speaker 2 but like thirsty ancillary hangers on,

Speaker 2 thirsty people are always, they know where the outlets are. Like, honestly, she could have never spoken to Katie and she would have found her way to someone like Bravo Babe.

Speaker 2 And I'm not saying like someone like, I mean, like, just anyone, any podcast that's going to talk about this sort of stuff.

Speaker 2 But also, but like, okay, so this nanny, first of all, no one really cares about what the nanny has to say.

Speaker 2 We might, maybe we would have repeated a few lines like, oh, we heard this from a nanny on Crappy Hour.

Speaker 2 We would have talked about it and laughed, but no one would have like really cared and emily's acting like the nanny spread news that like changed america and it's like no like maybe we heard it maybe we laughed maybe oh whatever but by the way we didn't need a nanny to tell us that you probably talked about heather debris in front of your kids because we all know that you did and we don't even blame you for it we actually support you for doing that yeah heather is an asshole and whatever you said in front of your kids heather probably deserved it okay i don't know why we're all acting like oh my god someone said heather de bro's an asshole heather de DeBrux is an asshole.

Speaker 2 We all fucking know Heather DeBrow's an asshole. Heather DeBruau's know Heather DeBrux an asshole.
She does.

Speaker 2 So then, okay, so anyway, I'm going back to my original point, which is like Gina saying she had all of us. Like, who did she?

Speaker 2 Okay, so she, so a nanny went on and talked that, uh, said that Emily has like talked shit about Heather in front of her kids. The other point was that

Speaker 2 someone said that Tamara.

Speaker 2 Someone alleged that Tamara

Speaker 2 was

Speaker 2 coming up with like fake accounts to talk shit about people people or whatever. And then Tamara,

Speaker 2 which she does too. Every housewife does that, you know, they do.
Janet's not the only one out there with 40, you know, fake accounts, yeah.

Speaker 2 But either way, the point is, so like the other issue there was that Katie called whoever was who was like being attacked by Tamara over this situation and like was conciliatory to this person and not conciliatory, but like was was

Speaker 2 consoled them or something like that. Or had a kind conversation.
Started leaking with that word. I was like, uh-oh, that word's too big.
I don't want to adjudicate this point.

Speaker 2 But, uh, but like, okay, so there was that, like, is that really the biggest crime against humanity? It's like shady, and you could be like, Katie, please don't do that.

Speaker 2 Don't get involved in my mess or whatever. Okay, so that's two people.
How did this become? She's hurt everyone. First of all, I don't see how anyone is hurt by any of these situations.

Speaker 2 Maybe they were annoyed. Maybe it was a nuisance, but who was actually hurt? I don't know.
And as far as if people are hurt, so far I count two people and you were a cast of like seven. So

Speaker 2 you guys went on national TV and supported Emily going up there and saying, you got your, you're a bad mother and your kids were taken away from you because you're crazy.

Speaker 2 You're insane and unstable and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That is the worst thing anybody can do to another mother.

Speaker 2 And I cannot believe you all are sitting up here defending that fucking taco in her purse carrying motherfucker over here. I can't believe it.
I can't believe.

Speaker 2 Well, I can't believe it because it's Gina and she's spineless, but still. No one hurt you, Gina.

Speaker 2 Especially, you know, it's so Gina doesn't like, Gina does not like that Katie is victimizing herself, says Gina, who's always like, I can't believe that like Jen wasn't paying a rent.

Speaker 2 You know how that made me look bad as a real estate agent? Like a queen of victimization is Gina.

Speaker 2 So now we go to Shannon and Katie meeting on a bench. And

Speaker 2 Shannon's like, oh, I'm sorry. I just hit you on the chin.
I didn't mean to. I can't really really feel my face.
I got laser and I have to wear a hat.

Speaker 2 I got laser and I was on my face and I got a facial and I got a massage and I got Botox. I mean, Shannon is barely moving.

Speaker 2 I just had to treat myself because after everything with Earl de Pearl, I was like, I deserve a facial and a laser.

Speaker 2 And I got an air filter and oil change.

Speaker 2 I've switched out my kidney and I've got one eyeball that's electric.

Speaker 2 Runs on watch books. Wiggie, wiggy, wiggy, woog.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you can do it. It's electric is what the song always said.
I didn't realize that you really could do it.

Speaker 2 So Shannon's like, I, it's, you know, it's not fun to have things sag.

Speaker 2 I mean, so if there's a laser that can snap it up, I am going to do it as long as it's perfectly an organic laser and not made with any toxins.

Speaker 2 But so, you know, it's just back up because down below, nope. Nope.
I'm not opening. I'm not.
That is not up for business or open for business until I'm in a relationship.

Speaker 2 So Earl of Earl, you can just wait on that

Speaker 2 So, Katie's like, Thank you so much for standing up for me and telling the girls to stop bullying me the other day. She's like, Oh, I just, I get it.
You know, you feel this exhaustion.

Speaker 2 It's just so hard. You know, there's so many people coming after you, and there's just so many people.
And I just, someone needed to help you.

Speaker 2 Someone like me, Shannon Bedor, the most giving person and most understanding person in the world. Shannon Bedor.
Don't ever forget that, especially by the end of this episode.

Speaker 2 I, um,

Speaker 2 I, I, I, I, I, I, I just want, I, I want, when you get ganged up on, I don't like that, but this is also my way of saying, when I get ganged up on, which will probably happen very soon, you better be there for me, bitch.

Speaker 2 It would be nice if you made an effort towards me next time.

Speaker 2 That's all I'm saying. Okay.

Speaker 2 And Katie is like, well, that's a trauma response because I was married to a psycho. And, you know, if I ever fought back with him, it became worse.

Speaker 2 And Shannon's just like, ah-ha, ah-ha, ah, ah, ah-ha. Oh, my God.
I wonder if I plugged in my left eye. Why does it use lightning cables instead of USB-C? I just don't understand the technology.

Speaker 2 Well, I just, you know, Stephanie, I just think that there were, that you're calculated or you plan what you're going to say.

Speaker 2 My name's Katie.

Speaker 2 I'm pretty sure Stephanie. And you're new this season.
No, I was here for a whole season prior.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 No need to gaslight me. I already had enough of that from John Jansen.

Speaker 2 Stop ganging up on me. Where's my friend Katie They helped me.

Speaker 2 Well, I wish I were smart enough to play chess. I mean, I can barely even play checkers.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 well, I

Speaker 2 can't.

Speaker 2 I thought we were here to play chess, actually. Are we not playing chess today? Please do not play chubby checker.
I cannot. It's traumatizing to me.
Now, if you want to trigger me, God.

Speaker 2 Or fats domino. I won't stand for that either.
I'll tell you who played checkers is my ex-husband, David Bedor, because he would often go down to the beach and he would check her out, all the sluts.

Speaker 2 Checkers. David Bedor, who only gave a

Speaker 2 cashier at the grocery store, the checker. Attention on my birthday.
Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 Sorry, that took me a little while to get it.

Speaker 2 By the way, this conversation is working. I'm just getting a little bit of an appetite.
Does anyone actually have any chest pie since we're talking about it? No?

Speaker 2 It was Fats Domino's favorite. No, I have not read his biography.

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Speaker 2 So then we go to the other girls and Tamara's like, she's guilty. Guilty on that account.
Katie's guilty. Send her to prison.

Speaker 2 And so,

Speaker 2 Katie, then we go back to Katie and Katie's like, I've apologized a hundred times. I'm sorry if I handled it incorrectly.
I mean, what else am I supposed to do?

Speaker 2 Okay, well, you know, you're saying things like, sorry if, not sorry that.

Speaker 2 So, you know, you need to say sorry that I, not sorry if I, because no one likes a sorry if I.

Speaker 2 No one likes. I forgot what we were talking about.
Please do not talk about trauma again.

Speaker 2 Katie's like, well, I mean, so, okay.

Speaker 2 I, you know, here, let me try it from the top then. Here's the thing, Shannon.
You're about to say, but. No, okay.
I am regretful of everything I did, but

Speaker 2 why would I go?

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 How about this? I am regretful of that. However, however, however.
And the however carries across the wind, across the ocean. An animatronic mannequin starts coming to life.
It's like,

Speaker 2 Jesus Christ and the power of Jesus Christ, please raise leaves.

Speaker 2 Leaves are swirling.

Speaker 2 Slate gets out of bed. You see him dusting off a mannequin, and suddenly the mannequin's head pops up and it's scratching.
How am I?

Speaker 2 Hi, I've been summoned.

Speaker 2 So basically, Shannon's like,

Speaker 2 just stop saying, but, just apologize.

Speaker 2 And Tamara, and she's like, you know, it's important for me to have compassion for Katie right now because I've been in her situation with multiple people coming at me multiple times.

Speaker 2 And maybe I just wish that when it happened to me, someone had come to me and said, I know how it feels. It would have been nice for someone to have stood up for me one of the million times.

Speaker 2 And also, I really don't have a choice because

Speaker 2 Tamara still hates me, and Heather still does what Tamara says, and Emily and Gina are still following whatever those two idiots do. So I basically need a friend.
All right, Jennifer, we're friends.

Speaker 2 We're officially friends.

Speaker 2 So then we go back.

Speaker 2 So then we go back to Tamara, who Tamara at one point was like, here's the thing with Katie Kitty Betch. She's a silent assassin.
I'm like,

Speaker 2 we have to stop saying silent assassin. Have you heard of many loud assassins?

Speaker 2 Assassins are not known for like walking with a boom box like,

Speaker 2 hey, everyone, I'm going to come kill someone right now. I think the silence would imply.

Speaker 2 Extremely accomplished assassin. It's like you're complimenting her.
you know

Speaker 2 so tamara's like so are you guys gonna go to the cats and kitty patty I mean, yeah, I mean, you got to prove yourself to yourself that you're not going to let her get to you. Like, that's

Speaker 2 what happened to the Bali and the wind and whatever. Like, aren't you supposed to be on a spiritual journey, Gina?

Speaker 2 Like, shouldn't you be going to be like, we had this coffee, we settled things at the coffee, allegedly.

Speaker 2 So you should be going, hoping to turn over a new leaf, not to prove to yourself that you could like hang out with Katie and not get mad.

Speaker 2 Because by the way, you're going to get mad because that's who you are, Gina. Well, and I also love that they're just like, wow, Katie, diabolical Katie, inviting everybody to hot pot.
What a bitch.

Speaker 2 They're just upset. It's not Javier's.
They like, don't, they really have no idea what to do with hot pot. They're like so confused.
They don't.

Speaker 2 And Katie's like, guys, I'm giving you all chances to make your culturally inappropriate boomer jokes. And I'm not even getting points for this.

Speaker 2 Hot pocket.

Speaker 2 I have one of those.

Speaker 2 Here's what drives me nuts. First of all, hot pot is not a foreign concept in terms of like, it's not a hard thing to conceptualize.

Speaker 2 It's not also saying pot is hot pot is not a hard thing to say or remember. So the more they are like, hot pocket, am I right? The more they're just like really showing their asshole.

Speaker 2 Like it's just like, it's like, look at that silly concept over there. Hot pot.
Hot pot sounds like a hot pocket. Am I right? Yeah.

Speaker 2 So Emily's like, wow, can you imagine the things she's done that we don't even know about? Can you imagine? Emily's still getting herself all worked up over there.

Speaker 2 So then Tamara goes, Okay, everybody, here's the thing: last year, Katie was filming Shannon having a full-blown meltdown at our gallery shop, and they were sharing the dressing room.

Speaker 2 And then, okay, let me explain to you, audience: a gallery shoot is what we do at the end of the season. That's where we take our pictures and some of some of the airbrushes does and stuff.

Speaker 2 And then Shannon was being a terrible person.

Speaker 2 And then Katie got it all on film and then she sent it to Alexis Bellino. You heard her here first, Mitch.

Speaker 2 Man, you know, Tamara is so outraged.

Speaker 2 Hey, remember when we were on tour, when we recapped the Ireland episode and Heather DeBruau secretly filmed Kelly Dodd having a meltdown and they all laughed about it? Ugh.

Speaker 2 Anyway, oh, yeah, so it's totally, this is terrible what Katie did. I totally agree.

Speaker 2 And Tamara, you're just jealous you weren't holding the phone. Yeah.
Because they're also always trying to prove that Shannon's a monster, which at this point, I believe.

Speaker 2 I mean, how many accounts do we need of Shannon just losing her shit backstage and telling everybody off and acting like a diva? I mean, we've had them filmed.

Speaker 2 My favorite was when she was in Mexico and

Speaker 2 she was trying to run away and take off her mic. And they're like, Shannon, no, you have to stay.
It's like, not damn you. She's like screaming at the whole, the whole cast and crew and everybody.

Speaker 2 I mean, we know that she's a monster, but you know, Tamra, I would think that you'd be more loving of that videotape because it just gave you evidence.

Speaker 2 Here's the thing. I don't think any of us are really questioning like a lot of the veracity of these allegations that everyone's saying.

Speaker 2 It's more like

Speaker 2 making us care because I think at this point we've accepted Shannon is a mess. She becomes very activated.
She loses her mind. She's a diva.
We accept Katie is messy. She's clunky with her mess too.

Speaker 2 She leaves a paper trail that's like easily traceable. She's not good with it.
She's talked to bloggers, quote-unquote bloggers.

Speaker 2 We get it all. But like, you have to actually make us want to feel like those are bad things.

Speaker 2 We just accept them. We're like, okay, that's fine.

Speaker 2 It's just who they are. Okay.
Yeah. That's kind of why we love you guys.
Like you can't, you can't try. It's like you're mad at Superman for flying, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 2 I am a little mad at Superman for flying, though.

Speaker 2 Like walk with the rest of us. Yeah, it's kind of unfair.
Like you're already hot. Isn't that your superpower? You already get everything.

Speaker 2 You're like a hot, like, you're a hot white man who's like well worked out. Like you don't even have to diet diet or exercise, whatever.

Speaker 2 And you can fly. Fuck off.
I need ugly people to be able to. I think we're like, we need to run fast.
We need to get away faster.

Speaker 2 I think we all agree, with the exception of Georgia from next-gen New York City, that Superman is very privileged.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 she's like, Superman has worked for everything that he's gone through.

Speaker 2 So, Katie,

Speaker 2 Shannon's really into bowling, you guys.

Speaker 2 So basically, Katie, like that. They're saying, yeah, like Shannon comes in crazy and whatnot.
And no one, no one in the audience is surprised.

Speaker 2 So Tamara goes, Shannon was pissed off that Alexis was there the same time she was. And Shannon started screaming and cussing.

Speaker 2 And Katie was on her phone with her husband and she hung up without saying anything and pressed record and showed it to Alexis.

Speaker 2 And Gina's like, oh,

Speaker 2 she showed it to Alexis.

Speaker 2 Oh my God.

Speaker 2 So Katie tells her version. She goes, yeah, Shannon comes in like holding her phone with 600 bags of her hair of hair or 600 bags and her hair up here.

Speaker 2 It's all out and she's half asleep and she's like screaming into the phone because that's what Shannon does all the time. So you know what?

Speaker 2 You know, I know, I love Shannon and I love Shannon's emotional breakdowns, but Shannon's a fucking monster.

Speaker 2 And at some point, someone at your job is going to be making fun of you and taking videos of you acting crazy. I mean, there's a whole subculture, you know, devoted to Karen videos.

Speaker 2 And I watch them all. I love them.
So if you're going to act like that, then be prepared to get videotaped, Shannon. That's my favorite thing is when someone is a total nightmare.

Speaker 2 No matter what the context is, but they're a nightmare. And then they're horrified that someone would film them.
Like there is a line that was crossed.

Speaker 2 No, you crossed the line when you started treating people like garbage.

Speaker 2 Shannon, I love you, but I'm not going to take the Karen side, okay because in those videos whenever there's like someone i was just watching a really good one what's wrong what's wrong no no i was gonna say

Speaker 2 i love shannon i'm not gonna take the karen side however

Speaker 2 i'm not gonna stand for this karen behavior if it's not gonna be put on the tv show like well that is true

Speaker 2 but i was watching a really good karen video the other day and there were actually a few comments that were like this isn't cool to tape people like this you know in public it's it's i don't we need to all stop taping each other and that's absolutely ridiculous that someone is taping.

Speaker 2 That's unfair to this lady. Like, she's allowed to have a bad day.
No, this lady was not just having a bad day. She was abusing workers at a place, you know, whatever.
We've all seen these videos.

Speaker 2 And I'm not going to take that side. And even for you, Shannon, if you're acting like that and somebody is sitting there, they have the right to videotape your ass.
That's it.

Speaker 2 Don't act like a jackass if you don't want it on the internet. Okay.

Speaker 2 And that lady was named Nicole Kidman. There, we said it.
So

Speaker 2 what

Speaker 2 was it? I don't know Spanish. I don't know Spanish.
All right, this is an Australian accent.

Speaker 2 Hello, I've been sitting here for five hours, and no one's even brought me a prosthetic nose yet.

Speaker 2 So, uh, Tamara's like, Yeah, Shannon was just pissed off because Alexis, like, you know, Alexis could use that video against her. And June's like, oh my God, active lawsuit?

Speaker 2 Like, that was an active lawsuit. She got a haunted legally.
She got a Honda.

Speaker 2 John and Alexis were making accusations that they had videos of Shannon displaying behavior that was not the best.

Speaker 2 So the last thing you want is someone videotaping you and sending it to the person you're in lawsuit with.

Speaker 2 I mean, God forbid there's any sort of video evidence of Shannon being irrational or acting a bit deranged.

Speaker 2 Thank goodness there's no footage of that whatsoever. And thank God there's not a treasure trove of it going back, I don't know, 10 or 11 years.
God, that would be terrible.

Speaker 2 Be terrible if this is the first. They finally found the footage from Katie's phone.
Finally, found the footage of Shannon Medora. Secret footage of Shannon acting like a fucking nutcase.

Speaker 2 So Tamara pulls her, like, oh my God, what's Shannon gonna do once she finds this information out that I've been sitting on until we were filming again?

Speaker 2 Is it something that I need to tell her? It's a good person. I've been going to therapy, you guys.
77 toothpicks, 77 toothpicks.

Speaker 2 So Emily's like, no, don't bring it up because it's gonna, the content of the videos can get bogged down by saying that you're trying to

Speaker 2 divide so-and-so. So don't bring it up whatsoever.
And you know, Gina's like, got it.

Speaker 2 I bring it up on behalf of Tamara, and then I catch all the shit. And then I wonder in the midway through the season why Tamara always gets away with things.
Got it.

Speaker 2 Glory.

Speaker 2 So she's like, you know, I just feel bad because, like, I'm the one who brought Katie to the group. and now she's acting like this and always feel bad.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So Gina, she just feels so embarrassed.
Gina, this was this was already last season. You can't play this card for two seasons in a row.
Gina, Katie's not the newbie anymore.

Speaker 2 You can't like, you can't use this as the excuse for why you're going to go after this girl anymore. Like that was all of last year's bullshit.
New storyline, please, from you. Thank you.

Speaker 2 So then we go to Shannon's house and she's going to have a wacky scene with Sophie, who's back from New York City.

Speaker 2 So Sophie's going through the fridge and she's like, mom, why does it smell like this? Did someone die? Oh, what? Did someone die? No, only

Speaker 2 the

Speaker 2 embers of my relationship with John Jameson.

Speaker 2 Oh, God. Thanks you, Alexis Bellino.

Speaker 2 Give me that pineapple juice. I can smell it.
Is it the pineapple juice? Is it? Teresa Jude. I said it was do something to my hoo-ha.

Speaker 2 She's like, oh my God, you were supposed to drink this before December 2024. I'm on Osimpic.

Speaker 2 I can't tell time anymore. I don't need to.
I'm quiet. I'm trying to lose weight.
Oh, well, you. And did you notice this is such a

Speaker 2 mother-daughter thing that she does. She goes, I'm just trying to lose weight, Sophie.
Oh, by the way, you've lost weight, Sophie.

Speaker 2 She gives us like a really tight smile. Mothers who are constantly telling you to lose weight.
And then the second you do, they're like, oh, wow.

Speaker 2 Thank you for trying to compete with me by losing weight. Good luck with that.
I'm bigger, I'm stronger. I'll always win.

Speaker 2 I brought you into this world and I'll take you out. Losing five pounds without my permission.

Speaker 2 Well, I guess that's what you get because I guess now you're a New Yorker. You're a fancy you're a New Yorker, right?

Speaker 2 No, mom, you have to be there for 10 years before you're a New Yorker. Oh, thank God there's still hope.

Speaker 2 So we find out that Sophie has graduated and she works in sports and she works out every day and she eats healthy in case you couldn't tell from her healthy living.

Speaker 2 But she also broke up with her boyfriend, which I'm so happy about because I was really nervous that she was just going to settle down after college and live like a boring life, you know, somewhere.

Speaker 2 Well, Sophie was looking like the one that she was going to get real religious, go settle down on a farm somewhere, just start popping out kids immediately, right?

Speaker 2 Like, I think that was the fear, at least for me. I was like, Why aren't Sophie? And she did, but she went to New York City instead.

Speaker 2 I mean, like, all her, all her kids have fled Orange County and gone to

Speaker 2 liberal centers.

Speaker 2 I don't know if Shadow knows what to do.

Speaker 2 Wow,

Speaker 2 I don't know how I feel about this. Okay.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 Sophie's new hobbies include

Speaker 2 paying a lot of taxes,

Speaker 2 voting for insane things, and

Speaker 2 I don't even know. I don't even know what they do in New York.
I'm Flummex. I'm Flummox.
That's inside of me. Well, Sophie's choice.
I guess she made it.

Speaker 2 I guess she had to choose between two things that she loves. And I guess I wasn't part of that equation.
Oh, she chose between a city of liberal idiots and her mother. And the liberal idiots won.

Speaker 2 Wow,

Speaker 2 I thought Sophie's choice was supposed to be hard. And you were supposed to

Speaker 2 not choose the thing that you hated, but that's fine. You did hate that at one point, didn't you?

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 Shannon talks about how she hasn't gone on a date in a year. I guess she's not including any of Love Island or Love Hotel because she went off the text.
I got a text.

Speaker 2 People don't realize that I actually had a relationship with a young man named Nicholas, and they called us Nicholas Shannon. And people were really obsessed with us.

Speaker 2 I only dated him because I thought he was Captain Sandy. So that was awkward.

Speaker 2 He made me many pancakes,

Speaker 2 which of course I could not eat because

Speaker 2 too many carbs. But I appreciated the sentiment and I just would throw them down at the beach and hope it would hit a slat.
I'm not sure if they did. But anyway, I loved being on Love Island.

Speaker 2 Then I went to the locale.

Speaker 2 Hoping they'd hit a slat, but they did.

Speaker 2 Okay, so she's like, I have made myself very, very vulnerable. I even had an anniversary drink for myself to celebrate how strong i became one year after my dui so

Speaker 2 that's nice that's still the weirdest shit that's happened this year shannon toasting herself for her dui a year before it's so weird

Speaker 2 and um you know uh love hotel is coming out so you know i've made a lot of male friends so if i have an event to go to i've asked a few of them will you go with me and um they all said sorry i live in maryland but i said well that's just a small detail.

Speaker 2 If you really liked me, you would come out here. And then they said, no.
And so what I did was I painted a little rock and I named it Ace.

Speaker 2 And now I pretend like I'm in a relationship with someone and we're in a relationship called Chalice. So it's fun.
It's fun.

Speaker 2 So her kids are like, oh, what does that mean, mom? Like, you're dating a mailman now?

Speaker 2 Well, got to work. So then we go to Shane sitting in a car and he's picking up Emily.

Speaker 2 And Emily's like, oh my God, Shane, at least you didn't drive away this time when I was trying to get in, like you usually do.

Speaker 2 That is so shame.

Speaker 2 Like, whoops, press the gas. Oh, okay.
Just walk up a little more, honey. I'm just like, ah, just kidding.
Just hit the gas again. Shane.

Speaker 2 Listen, you can't spell snarcasm without car.

Speaker 2 Am I right?

Speaker 2 So she's like, sarcasm.

Speaker 2 It's like, oh my God, it's so hot in here. I can't believe it.
It might be the burrito you're wearing as a purse. Well, that too, but geez, how do I make this thing work?

Speaker 2 It's like, honey, it's an air event. They've worked the same for 50 years.

Speaker 2 Are you sure about that? Can I put a taco in it?

Speaker 2 You know, look,

Speaker 2 this guy's still an asshole. Okay.
I don't care what anybody says. He's still an asshole.
But I kind of get his point. I mean, Emily is just too much.

Speaker 2 It's like, oh my God, I didn't even make the air work. I don't need the air work in here.
I can't even get these things open.

Speaker 2 I know. It's a bit much.
Oh, I have an update, which is that on the last Orange County episode, I said something like, I thought Kelly Dodd had said,

Speaker 2 like, I look funny, more like funny looking. And Kelly Dodd never said that.
That was Princess's Long Island.

Speaker 2 And I just conflated Kelly Dodd saying that because it just seems like something Kelly Dodd would say, but it was actually a quote from Princess Log Love Island.

Speaker 2 Princess Long Island. I'm actually shocked that Kelly Dodd didn't say that because I would guess that in a trivia that I would attribute that to Kelly Dodd.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you're funny. Funny looking.

Speaker 2 That makes sense.

Speaker 2 She called me funny looking.

Speaker 2 So Emily

Speaker 2 starts talking about Luke and she's saying that Luke has really declined over the past week because they went to the movies and then he took out the like the phone flashlight and was inspecting every fry before he ate it.

Speaker 2 And then he didn't want to go to school and he was being like really, really difficult. And she had to like get him dressed and she had to do everything.

Speaker 2 And she's just saying like, you know, it's a struggle. And as a mother, the decline really breaks my heart.

Speaker 2 And Shane's like, well, I don't know why you keep saying as a mother, I'm a parent too, you know? She's like, yeah, but like, it's easy for you to say it because it's an isolated man. He'll be fine.

Speaker 2 So she's like,

Speaker 2 fine, then as a as a goblin, how do you feel?

Speaker 2 He's just saying,

Speaker 2 as as a king of snorkeling how do you feel about it

Speaker 2 and basically he's like you know my approach is i just want to make him feel like all of this is normal and he's not like standing out or being weird in any kind of way you know and then she just doesn't work like that you know and you know i'm not here to like mom shame someone and tell someone what they can and how to deal with it i don't know i mean i would imagine that's what she's describing sounds like it would freak me out as a parent too you know you're throwing all these hurdles and i don't know the best way to to deal with it.

Speaker 2 So I'm not going to judge what she's doing. I don't love that eating disorder stuff, bringing it up on TV because that kid's got to go to school.

Speaker 2 Like these people, you know, it's like you're just giving kids ammunition.

Speaker 2 And I don't know, I don't know where the line is, like what you're allowed to bring up with your kids and what you're not allowed to bring up, but it seems like something like eating disordered stuff should be something that the kids should be able to bring up in their own time if they want to.

Speaker 2 I don't know that that's. It just makes me uncomfortable with Emily doing that.
I don't like it. But of course, I don't really like Emily either.
So this just adds kind of on.

Speaker 2 I think it's a fair point. It's a fair point.

Speaker 2 Like for me, I was responding to the idea that there are probably other parents out there that probably are taking great comfort in seeing a similar story on TV.

Speaker 2 But I also think for the child, yeah, they do have to go to school. And like, like children are terrible and they're horrible.
And they often have terrible parents.

Speaker 2 And so their parents will probably be like, well, you know, he has a, he has a, he has a RFID. And then the kids are going to go.
taunt him. I don't know.
I don't know what's right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm just like, it's already feeling weird. You know, so to like put this out there and put this on TV, it just feels gross to me.

Speaker 2 So, I mean, I kind of get where Shane's coming from as the dad, where he's like, well, like, if you're, if your kid is going through this extreme emotional stuff, maybe the best thing to do is not to overreact in front of the kid constantly.

Speaker 2 Like, maybe, but again, I'm not a parent, so I don't really know, but it's making me feel a little queasy with Emily's choice.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So now we go to Jen's house and Kitty and Matt come over and Kitty says, last year Matt was really hesitant to get to know Ryan because of, you know, all the allegations surrounding the FBI and just seems so salacious.

Speaker 2 But now having gotten to know Ryan, there's really nothing to hate about him except, you know, maybe his fashion. That's really rough.
Even to be aware of that.

Speaker 2 I mean, you know, now basically what we know about Ryan is that he knows how to get away with crimes. And that made Matt much more comfortable.
So

Speaker 2 Jen's telling everyone about how they're sitting sitting outside and she's like saying how everyone piled on Katie at the golden door.

Speaker 2 And Matt's like, I mean, who are these people that think they can just sit on a moral tower of judgment?

Speaker 2 Let's roll the clip again of Matt steering clear of Ryan because of the association with the criminal door. I think that was too soon to the clip we just saw of you, Matt.
Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Let's create some separation. Listen, I totally support him trying to steer clear of Ryan.
I'd be like, look, this guy's involved in some, yeah, there's like an organized criminal over here.

Speaker 2 I'm going to

Speaker 2 stay clear. I'm a public person on a very important golf channel, so I don't want to be in the in the mix with this.

Speaker 2 I support that 100%, but it is funny because he was sort of morally indignant, and now he's like, Who are all these morally indignant people?

Speaker 2 Yeah, so then we go to Tamara's house, and she's getting renovations done. We had it, we had a problem with the think overflowing.

Speaker 2 I'm not sure what the hell happened in that house, but it doesn't look like an overflowing sink. I mean, what the hell? The whole place is being excavated, it's like a housewife second season.

Speaker 2 Like, do my whole thing, do everything. I don't want to do Lynn Curtain's face.

Speaker 2 So I was like, I'm stepping on Lynn's nose right now. So Heather comes over.
She's like, oh, are you doing construction again?

Speaker 2 She says that in this judgy way, as if we didn't just sit and watch Heather just like tear a mansion down to its studs almost for fun and now is planning on abandoning it. Oh, really?

Speaker 2 Construction again. How interesting.
Is Drake next door? Are you trying to show up for him? No, that's just me. I see.

Speaker 2 Drake. So they go sit up in Tamara's bedroom

Speaker 2 to

Speaker 2 Kiki. Oh, and Heather also reminds us that she's super cool, Heather, now.
I've brought onion rings.

Speaker 2 Do you remember when people were upset because I wouldn't let Terry eat onion rings at his own barbecue? Well, here they are. Onion rings.
They're my thing now.

Speaker 2 Champs and onion rings. Isn't this hilarious, America? I'm like, Heather, you need a new prop.
Those are from like your first go-around on Orange County. Like just at this point, I don't care.

Speaker 2 Just find an object, do Mad Libs, find an object, and talk about it a lot, and make that your new thing because the onion rings and the shamps has been played out.

Speaker 2 She tries so hard to be iconic every season, and it cracks me up.

Speaker 2 She's like, Oh, and you know, now I have shamps, but I can't leave it on, I can't leave a ring here because do you remember last year I spilled espresso martinis? Hold on,

Speaker 2 do you remember when I broke the World Wide Web? That's what they call it.

Speaker 2 The Information Super Highway cracked in half after I spilled that martini.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, because they go up to Tamara's room because Heather's like, No, let's eat dirty. We don't need a plate.
Ha ha ha ha. I am cool.
I am down with the people.

Speaker 2 So there's a coaster that's there that says, Don't stay in my table dish bag. Oh my God, that is so funny.
I love how sincere I am right now saying that this coaster is funny.

Speaker 2 This is a very funny coaster.

Speaker 2 Heather hates it.

Speaker 1 Tacky piece of shit.

Speaker 2 So she goes, that's a lot in your mouth. And Tamara's like, that's a lot in your mouth.
Yeah, that's what she said.

Speaker 2 Anyways,

Speaker 2 I hung out with Gretchen the other day. Oh, God.

Speaker 2 And then here we go, a flashback of Heather and Gretchen hugging and Heather saying, oh my God, we match. Oh my God, I have the same dress.
I die.

Speaker 2 And I just want to remind you that you did not get that role on Hotton Cleveland. That was me.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Or was it Malibu Country? Either way, you are not booked and blessed. Look at us.
We have the same looking dress, except the double C's on mine don't wash off.

Speaker 2 Oh, we were just laughing, me and Gretchen, about, you know, stuff we used to do. You know, all that stuff I used to do with Gretchen.
Do you remember? I don't either. Did it involve onion rings?

Speaker 2 All those things we used to do. For instance, I would go and hang out with Reba McIntyre on her hit show

Speaker 2 from Malibu Country while Gretchen would sit there and listen to me and wait and say things like, oh, Aunt Heather, tell me another story about that superstar Reba McIntyre that I did not get to work with because I did not land that role.

Speaker 2 Wow, we knew each other at one time when she tried to steal my career. And then it had been, what, 12, 14 years? I don't know, something like that.
And since then, we've

Speaker 2 kept in touch.

Speaker 2 Way to sell it, Heather.

Speaker 2 We have seen each other socially. For instance, when I have run into her as she is buying things at Goodwill and I am donating things.
So it's been really wonderful seeing her again.

Speaker 2 You know that she'll come get things out of your car. You don't need to take it out yourself.
Just open the trunk and she'll get it out herself

Speaker 2 she apparently um has been serving the country as part of the salvation army so i'm so proud of her

Speaker 2 i always thought she would be good in the army because she basically blends into anything she's just two eyes you could just put her up against a wall

Speaker 2 She looks like a forest owl. And I mean that in the

Speaker 2 kindest way. Barn owl specifically.
And so Tamara's like, does she even have a nose? She goes, yeah, she has a nose. Because on Instagram, it looks like

Speaker 2 her nose is blurred. And then

Speaker 2 we see pictures of Gretchen on Instagram. And those pictures are hilarious.
I mean, she does take off her entire nose. She even does it for her daughter.

Speaker 2 Her daughter is just like a little marshmallow with curly hair on top. She really needs to lay off the face tune.

Speaker 2 If there's anything she takes away from coming back in the public eye, it's lay off the face tune. It's too much.

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