#2932 RHOM S7E6 Part 2: Narcs and Recreation w/ Amy Phillips

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Speaker 2 Okay, so

Speaker 2 Daniel, is he saying goodbye now? Okay, good. He leaves.
Daniel says his goodbyes.

Speaker 2 And Lisa comes out of the bathroom. And Gertie tells us, as I'm having my issues with Julia, all I want is to have someone say, you know what?

Speaker 2 I have empathy and let me help you make it right with the other. Which, by the way, that would have been a good role for Daniel to play.

Speaker 2 Someone saying, I have empathy and let me help you make it right.

Speaker 2 I mean, it seems like

Speaker 2 only there were like a self-help guru here. Like a mediator that could actually, you know, help them direct them.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Somebody specializes in interpersonal relationships. God, too bad they didn't have one.

Speaker 2 But Gurdy decides that, you know what?

Speaker 2 If no, just because no one did that for her doesn't mean that, that like she wants to still pay it forward. So if no one does it for her, she can do it for someone else.

Speaker 2 So she decides she's going to mediate between Larsa and Lisa.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 she gathers them. She gathers the two of them and she brings them over to like,

Speaker 2 she brings them over to like a little bench. A lot of bench actually.
So many benches in this garden. Yeah.

Speaker 2 The metaphor.

Speaker 2 Not every bench has a back.

Speaker 2 So you have to learn to hold your back up straight without any help.

Speaker 2 That's why Alexia is in a large throne with golden wings on it because she doesn't know how to stand on her own.

Speaker 2 It's important for me that you're sitting on a metaphor because what we want to do with this narcissistic behavior is bench it. So we're going to take it and we're going to bench it.

Speaker 2 It's the name of my, it's the name of my next book called Don't Let Benches Affect You. Stupid.

Speaker 2 Help me pick the color of the bench.

Speaker 2 So they sit down. And he's like, okay, just the two of you.
Just the two of you. Okay, listen to each other.
Listen. Listen to each other.
Okay, have a talk. Communicate.
Okay.

Speaker 2 I will be be right over here. I'm going to watch you talk.
Okay, Lasa, would you like to start talking? Lasa, please start and please, please say, please say what you need to say to Lisa.

Speaker 2 I was trying not to fight with you today. I know you, and I have, and I just wanted to talk.
I, I, this has been going on since another season, which I think we only have

Speaker 2 here

Speaker 2 in Miami, but I feel like it's happened since even four summers ago. And I feel like

Speaker 2 I've been. No, no, no, no, okay, okay, okay you know what i need to moderate i need to moderate i'm sorry i'm going i'm coming in i'm a mediator okay all right all right

Speaker 2 okay you sit there you said lisa you see you keep sitting there okay all right and i'm gonna sit right over here okay now continue um

Speaker 2 larsa i have been a good friend to you lately he's been a good friend okay good friend well i um i have been a good friend to you in the past and a good friend back

Speaker 2 in the past yep yep yep and and and gertie we don't we don't need you to

Speaker 2 meditate.

Speaker 2 You do. You do.
You know, I'm going to meditate.

Speaker 2 No, you need to. Okay, say the thing about

Speaker 2 Gurdy.

Speaker 2 They need to be alone. Say something about Jodie.
Jody, you need to be alone. Is that what you want for me?

Speaker 2 Okay, you know what? This isn't really working. Okay.

Speaker 2 The fact that

Speaker 2 the two of them were talking and Gertie kept on jumping in, I was dying. I was cracking up in this scene.

Speaker 2 It was one of the the best scenes i've ever seen it really was and she was far enough away like a ref would be you know like yeah a baseball ref like behind you know home plate or what it was just so good

Speaker 2 she was like talking back to the screen it was like she was at the movies and she was talking back and they finally were like oh okay we're just let's just go meet at a restaurant we can't do this with gurdy here yeah yeah it's not going to be fixed today yeah it's not going to be fixed it will we'll figure it out but not today not today no no

Speaker 2 so uh then now this whole party is officially over and now we see some stuff going on around around town um adriana is um

Speaker 2 she has a textbook out and she's talking to her dog about personality

Speaker 2 disorders

Speaker 2 is she is she studying it's i know it's the dsm5

Speaker 2 It's like the official book, the official, official, official book for that all therapists, counselors, psychologists, psychiatrists, everybody, it's the Bible or dictionary, if you will, of what every single mental health condition and

Speaker 2 beyond means and is, and it gets legitimized in this book. And that's why it's five, because there have been five versions.
This is the fifth version. So they update it as things get, you know,

Speaker 2 you know, how you change things from, I don't know.

Speaker 2 So, for example,

Speaker 2 what was the

Speaker 2 Munchausen by proxy? Okay. That's, that is no longer called that.
That's called fictitious disorder. So,

Speaker 2 yeah, so because Munchausen was like the person that discovered what this is, so they named it after that person. It's just such a weird name.

Speaker 2 So, they're, they're calling it what it is instead of after that person. So, they go in and they change it in this book.
And, and correct me if I'm wrong, but that's how I understand it to be.

Speaker 2 It's like the go-to. Wow.
So, I wonder: is Adriana, is she studying to be a therapist? Is that something that we learned somewhere along the way? That I like, it sounds vaguely familiar.

Speaker 2 It does, but I'm, I know, I'm confused too.

Speaker 2 I'm confused also, uh, and also concerned for her future clients. So, uh,

Speaker 2 let's be honest, could you imagine your therapist is Adriana DeMora?

Speaker 2 What's about me?

Speaker 2 Let me ask you a question.

Speaker 2 Uh, have you heard hit song Miami's on on

Speaker 2 Fire?

Speaker 2 Well, remember when she did ketamine last year? She is on this journey of therapy. So maybe she just has it for her own sake.
And she is very scholarly. Like she,

Speaker 2 she has a few degrees. She speaks a lot of languages.

Speaker 2 I think you go, does she have a degree from this, this could be totally wrong, but does she have a degree from like Harvard or something like that? Or like University of Paris or I don't know. Yeah,

Speaker 2 she does have degrees, art degrees, and she's very intelligent. Yeah.

Speaker 2 She is. She has.
She's like very studied.

Speaker 2 So this makes sense.

Speaker 2 Lisa is getting some, like her butt electrocuted. So it's like, yeah, this is the equivalent of 20,000 squats.
She's like, I'm in.

Speaker 2 Wow. And then we just see her butt just

Speaker 2 bobbling. Undilating.
Bobbling. Bubbling and bobbling.
Kiki takes her daughter to dance class.

Speaker 2 And now we arrive at Julia's house and a social worker named Connie shows up and Connie's doing a check-in to make sure that the new kids are okay, etc.

Speaker 2 And so Julia's, you know,

Speaker 2 being very nice to this lady and she's saying, like, I just cannot stop smiling because Martina is spoiling the boys so much.

Speaker 2 They have this incredibly cute relationship and Martina is good at everything. Of course, you will be a great mom.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 it's another, it's another scene of them talking about their growing family, which feels a little cringe in the wake of Martinez's tweet earlier this week about how surrogacy is wrong. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And you saw that tweet.

Speaker 2 She said, surrogacy is wrong. Sometimes we can't have it all.
I'm like, you're literally sitting through a two-year storyline about your adoption process.

Speaker 2 Like, sometimes you can have it all, by the way. I would like to say.

Speaker 2 It was, it was very insensitive and close-minded, you know, just having blinders on of not recognizing what's really happening in the world and

Speaker 2 other people. Like, yeah, it's just a.
It's also just like, it's like, what a random hill to die on. Like, why? Why are you coming for surrogacy?

Speaker 2 You know, if it helps people like achieve the dreams of their family and helps someone else actually earn like a paycheck, like, why not? I know. You know, I was pretty shocked by that.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was gross.

Speaker 2 So Julia's just going on and she basically is having this whole scene where she talks about how

Speaker 2 that her kids

Speaker 2 came over or her family came over and then the kids were very trepidacious and she recognized that. I appreciated her talking about that.
Yeah. I wonder, like, I'm just curious.

Speaker 2 I wonder if like, is the like is the approach to protect the kids until they feel more comfortable around strangers or is it like exposure therapy to be like, no, like you're going to have to get used to people coming by?

Speaker 2 I'm very curious of what the actual, what seems to be the better approach for something like that, because there's a part of me that feels like, oh, don't like, like, don't start like sheltering the kids away from strangers too much because then they may like not socialize properly.

Speaker 2 I don't know. That's a good point.
I don't know. I don't know what the right, you know, but then those kids have gone through trauma of having gone to different households and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 And there is some desire to have normalcy. So it was interesting, I thought, about I think it's smart to pull back at first.

Speaker 2 If she noticed that that was the reaction, I think it's smart to be overly cautious, at least for a while, and then start

Speaker 2 they are new in the house.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Wow. And make it, make life like safe and,

Speaker 2 you know, calm for them. Yeah.
Get that foundation.

Speaker 2 Yes, exactly. Sing, just sing some opera to them.

Speaker 2 Just calm their nerves. So much.

Speaker 2 So much opera.

Speaker 2 Just calm those nerves with some sweet tunes.

Speaker 2 Now we go over to Stephanie. She's having a dinner with her husband, Masood, and her parents, Nellie and Joe Biden.

Speaker 2 I was like, God,

Speaker 2 Nelly and Joe Biden.

Speaker 2 You're so funny.

Speaker 2 I was like, what? Joe Biden has a secret family here in Miami? Hilarious. I did not see that.

Speaker 2 That's really funny.

Speaker 2 He looks just like Joe Biden. Yeah, I didn't even think about it, but you're so right when he smiled.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 It was 100% Joe Joe Biden. So, um,

Speaker 2 Stephanie is like, anything that has to do with my parents worries me. I mean, if they have a migraine, I worry.
If a hurricane's coming, I'm devastated.

Speaker 2 I installed their nest and ring cameras in their house, and I haven't even told them I could see them in their house. Is that weird? I think I might be criminal.
I mean, it's not criminal, right?

Speaker 2 It's your parents. What if they fall? I want to know.

Speaker 2 I was like, Um, Jax, is that you?

Speaker 2 The spirit of Jax lives on, yeah.

Speaker 2 Um, so she is really attached to her parents, and

Speaker 2 her dad is only about

Speaker 2 like a year or two.

Speaker 2 They're not that,

Speaker 2 I think. Right? Two years.
Yeah, just two years.

Speaker 2 65. That was

Speaker 2 shocking. That's really close.
I mean, I understand May, December relationships, it happens that way, but absolutely. That's really close.

Speaker 2 It just, yeah, it really took us to the reality of what that must have been like for her dad or her mom even. Just, hello, nice to meet you.
But they're such such a match.

Speaker 2 That's what's wild about it: they really do. She's an old soul.
She loves to work and they just

Speaker 2 work together.

Speaker 2 He loves doing TikTok dances. So he's a young soul.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 yeah, they are just a wacky, wacky duo. I want him to show up like with a skateboard, be like, at a boombox, be like, hey, what's going on? I'm a young soul.
Yeah, bandana.

Speaker 2 Young Masud.

Speaker 2 Young Masud.

Speaker 2 DJ Young Masood.

Speaker 2 DJ Young Masood.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 Stephanie is talking about business because she loves business. She goes, you know, I feel like a lot of what I am as a businesswoman comes from my dad.
It really does.

Speaker 2 I mean, I was literally raised like a boy. Okay.
You know, like, learn to ride a bike. Don't cry.
You can do it. You're not quitting.
Keep going. It was like that.

Speaker 2 And he told me the weak people will never survive. And then the dad is like, yes, it's a saying of mine.
Always have a knife in your mouth and move forward.

Speaker 2 My dad always says that. I love how he has these sayings.
It's so good. It's so much better than those sayings in the mirror.
It's just a great. Just they're threatening.

Speaker 2 Always have a knife in your mouth. Yeah.
They're borderline threatening, but they make you a stronger person.

Speaker 2 I don't. Can I just say this? Hot take.
I don't want a knife in my mouth. That feels dangerous and scary.
What if I trip?

Speaker 2 I don't know. I'm just sorry.

Speaker 2 That's not safe.

Speaker 2 That's not safe.

Speaker 2 You should leave your knife in a holster or some sort of sheath.

Speaker 2 And leave it at home.

Speaker 2 If I saw Stella with a knife in her mouth, I would say, young lady, you are coming back to Orange County right this moment.

Speaker 2 You leave that rave right now, young lady.

Speaker 2 I can see you on FaceTime and that knife is not in a sheath. She shoes a sheath.

Speaker 2 Have you been out after 2 a.m. dancing with a knife in your mouth? Young lady, you are leaving Paris right this moment.

Speaker 2 Godmom.

Speaker 2 Can't even have a knife anymore. If you have

Speaker 2 a sheathless knife in your mouth, you'll die. You'll die.
You'll die.

Speaker 2 Someone will die. Someone will die.
Earl the Pearl. I saw him holding a butter knife and I said, don't put that in your mouth unless you've got a sheath for it.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 He said, why are you always coming down on me?

Speaker 2 I'm, he said, I'm trying to be a pirate, and I was playing games. I was playing sex games.
I said, I don't like that. It's too dangerous.

Speaker 2 It's too dangerous. Maybe if you ate some more vegetables, I would trust you with that knife.
But until I see you using that knife on a carrot, I just don't know.

Speaker 2 Errol the Pearl, the original pirate.

Speaker 2 The original pirate.

Speaker 2 He was the first ever.

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Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 Stephanie starts talking about her

Speaker 2 siblings and basically

Speaker 2 they they're not talking and the siblings aren't talking to the parents either and that they're like oh god they're so sensitive no one talks to the like oh my god and so stephanie's saying she wants to make it better and she is planning to make it better but i don't think it's gonna get i don't think it's gonna get better i think this is gonna be one of those classic situations where it's gonna be like um

Speaker 2 well you keep talking about us on your tv show and you're and you're just making it seem like you're the hero and that's going to make them like her even less. I agree, Ben.

Speaker 2 And then the dad getting in there.

Speaker 2 You're welcome.

Speaker 2 And then the dad getting in there and being like,

Speaker 2 you know, because Stephanie said they're very sensitive. And he's like, a lot.

Speaker 2 Oh, wow. Oh, God.
Sensitive. I was like, oh, not even a toothpick in their teeth.
Right.

Speaker 2 Let alone a knife. Let alone.
Yeah. And I just thought, don't, don't, don't do this.
And the best thing that happened was the mom was like, please don't. I'm going to cry.
You know, because

Speaker 2 this was starting to be dangerous for her making up with them on this show, which I know she would like to do.

Speaker 2 So our only hope is if the sisters are thirsty enough for fame that they'll be willing to make up on television. One can only dream.

Speaker 2 It's.

Speaker 2 There's not a great track record with these kind of things, but

Speaker 2 yeah. But yeah, the dad going on TV and being like, oh God, they're so sensitive.
It's not going to be very helpful. From a different planet, he said.

Speaker 2 Like, oh my God.

Speaker 2 I forgot. You're from a different, they're like aliens and not like the, not cute, sexy aliens.
They're like Elf. It's like, I've got two daughters and they both look like ELF.

Speaker 2 Who wants that?

Speaker 2 Bad. It's really bad.

Speaker 2 Dad, stop it.

Speaker 2 So now we go to Gertie and Russell, and they go to couples therapy. And it's just a very nice scene where

Speaker 2 they talk about,

Speaker 2 you know, the trauma of cancer. And Gertie is saying how she really wants

Speaker 2 to,

Speaker 2 like, she wants Russell to be in a couple with Russell again, and not that he has to be the caretaker as much anymore.

Speaker 2 This was such a lovely scene, and I got a little misty-eyed, I'm not going to lie, as she talked about like the struggles and how she, there was a point where she was

Speaker 2 saying that she

Speaker 2 was like, I don't care what happens. Maybe if it's my time to go, it's my time to go.
And then he was like, no, I need you.

Speaker 2 And I was like, that kind of like, that kind of got me a little bit there. Me too, Ben.

Speaker 2 Because I mean, this is the part of like, when you struggle with cancer, a lot of the times you don't see the rebuilding portion when you survive.

Speaker 2 and you're you're con you may be continuing treatment, but you don't really get to hear about the trauma with your partner during that time.

Speaker 2 And it was so touching to hear Russell say, Well, no, when I look at you, I don't, it's not like I feel like a caretaker. When I look at you, when I look at you, I'm in awe.
I, I'm so proud of you.

Speaker 2 I can't believe you're so strong. And

Speaker 2 we got to see Gertie hear that for the first time in this therapy session. And she was so

Speaker 2 emotional. It was amazing.
I got like chills when he said, you know, you always say, I'm traumatized. I'm not traumatized.
I'm amazed. I'm proud of you.
I was like, oh,

Speaker 2 I was like, that was, that kind of took my breath away a little bit. Like, that was just such a beautiful and wonderful thing to say.

Speaker 2 I mean, like, season after season, Russell really shows up to be like a great husband on this show. The greatest husband, one of the greatest husbands, I think we've ever seen.

Speaker 2 Yeah, because how many husbands have we seen or boyfriends on various other Bravo shows where like the wife is going through something, whether it's pregnancy or postpartum or something like that?

Speaker 2 And then the husband like steps out on her and it's like, well, I just wasn't getting the attention. Yada, yada, yada.

Speaker 2 You know, we just are reading the gossip about Sheena and Brock, how he cheated on her when she was pregnant. And he was like, I just felt like I didn't deserve to be another fool.

Speaker 2 Again, there's always some bullshit excuse.

Speaker 2 But then it's like nice to see someone like Russell who's like, I'm just going to stand by my wife's side and be like the best husband I possibly can be to her. Unbelievable.
It's great.

Speaker 2 Unprecedented, really.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's so great.

Speaker 2 And then Gertie talks about um her abandonment issues that she has and she talks about how she was basically dropped off in miami and like the rest of her family got to live in france and so she kind of felt like left out and that may be like the root of of like a lot of her reactions to things yeah that that is traumatizing i mean yeah wow it's wild and then we got to see her react to russell in that moment for the first time.

Speaker 2 And then in the confessional, she had another epiphany. She's like, maybe that happened to me.
I'm like, oh my gosh, she's really showing it all.

Speaker 2 She's, she's having like a triple header of epiphanies because she was like, she's like, I mean, I mean, you don't understand what it's like to be dropped off at a cousin's house and then you don't see your parents for another, you don't see your father for three more months.

Speaker 2 And you're just wondering, when's he going to come back to get me? Wait a second. Maybe this is why I act the way I do.
I never thought about that before. I know.

Speaker 2 And it's funny because she doesn't even need a therapist to come to her own conclusions because she's talking so much. She can direct herself into that discovery.

Speaker 2 She can do it all herself.

Speaker 2 So, um,

Speaker 2 she critified her therapy. So, now it's the main event with Lisa and Larsa are going to meet up to final, finally settle the score.

Speaker 2 Like, just like, let's move forward, get back to being the best friends that they are, you know.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 yeah, yeah, yeah. So, let's like sit down and like just talk.
Yeah, um,

Speaker 2 like, how long can it be before we like sit down? Like, honestly, like, right?

Speaker 2 Right. Well, so, like, I just feel like

Speaker 2 you weren't, um, I wasn't, well, I don't want to be here, but I'm here.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 um,

Speaker 2 I just really feel like you're not a good friend. So,

Speaker 2 wow. Wow.
Okay. Well, you know what? There's like a lot to dive into.
Okay. Um, because like, you know what, like there's a lot.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but like we've been having issues since the summer because I've never been thrown out of someone's house before. Like, yeah.
And I've never been sworn out like that at my house before. Okay.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 we see the flashbacks of like the first episode when they like fought, you know, and Lisa threw her out of the house, you know.

Speaker 2 And Lisa's like, you know what? You know, you know, Jodi, he got heated because of Marcus because it's a touchy subject. Marcus Jordan, very touchy subject for Jodi.

Speaker 2 Obviously, you know, Marcus is a very central person in Jodi's life.

Speaker 2 like you have to tread lightly. They're so tight.

Speaker 2 So tight. Bros.

Speaker 2 Bros before hose.

Speaker 2 You know, it's never truer than when you look at Marcus and Jodi. I know.
And Larsa's always like, he met him through me. He met him through me.
He met him through me. Is that true?

Speaker 2 Yeah, because Jodi, I mean, Larsa is the one who brought Marcus into the group. Right.
Okay. So they didn't actually know each other before the show.
No, Jodi fully latched on to Marcus.

Speaker 2 And I'm just, it's also like, really, can't you do better, Jodi?

Speaker 2 So Larsa is like, well, Jodi said to me, you're the one that had the paparazzi take the photo of Marcus in the south of France. And I said, me, what am I? The CIA.

Speaker 2 And that's what started it all. Well, the paparazzi guy told us, and he told that to Jodi, and Jodi told me, and then I told Jodi, and Jodi told, I told, so that's how it happened, Larsa.

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 2 What? Wait, you're full of shit

Speaker 2 I'm doing the foley I'm doing the sound effects on the soundtrack

Speaker 2 who said that that's you're such a larcissist who said you could even do the foley and the sound effects that should be split up amongst all of us as a cast and you didn't even talk to any of us about doing that and lenny oh i'm sorry jodi has a problem with that too why are you saying that why are you saying that i'm full of shit also why why why why you know why you know why because you're running low on friends, and I'm the only friend that literally took the time to meet you for lunch.

Speaker 2 Because, guess what? No one else is at this lunch but me. Cause I'm like, like, the only one that took the time.
Because, guess what?

Speaker 2 I picked up my watch and I was like, look, I'm taking my time because I'm taking the time because it's a watch. And I took it.
Stop. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 2 I'm not running low on friends. I'm running low on cocaine.
I mean, I mean, I mean, oh, AC.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 I'm running low.

Speaker 2 No, she gets some AC.

Speaker 2 You change, you change friends like,

Speaker 2 like you change

Speaker 2 underwear.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 one word at a time. Just choose that.
Here's what I do. Look around, find an object that's near you and then use that.
Okay. Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 So you,

Speaker 2 you flicker your friendships like that fake candle over there that is never going to go out like it should.

Speaker 2 You know what? You can't be in my sun because that's you're like that awning because you like, you can't be in my sun. Awning, awning face.

Speaker 2 See, it works.

Speaker 2 Just find an object. Okay, that was actually a good one, but I'm not an awning face, okay?

Speaker 2 You should worry about your window treatments inside of your house and not mine on the outside because your darkness

Speaker 2 and your drapes need to be

Speaker 2 trimmed.

Speaker 2 Well, I'm sorry that you don't like the window into my personality because it's a personality that has a lot of options, like a menu.

Speaker 2 And I'm going to order a crab cake from myself, my personality, and a Diet Coke, please. The waiter's like, You don't have to keep doing your bit while I'm taking your order.

Speaker 2 How How about you order? How about I order also to split the tuna tartare with you and your stupid games that you play?

Speaker 2 Please. Tuna tartare, something that's not cooked at all.
Like

Speaker 2 Lisa's personality. Ha raw, you're raw, but not not

Speaker 2 in a commendable way.

Speaker 2 Commendable.

Speaker 2 Not sure if you would say that. But yeah.

Speaker 2 Maybe. So go see Larsa.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I did like when you mentioned before when Larsa was like, you're a narcissist. She goes, you know what? I'm a narcissist.
You're a narcissist. I was like, okay, Lisa, that was pretty good.

Speaker 2 Lisa has had good ones. Last week when she called Stephanie a boss baby in her confessional, she had me.
I was like, nice.

Speaker 2 That was good. You know, she gets it right.
Like once, at least once an episode, she gets one in. She gets one.

Speaker 2 She does.

Speaker 2 So, so Lisa goes off to the bathroom and she calls alexia to cry and she's just like she's just going on she's like you know you know it's doing that lisa sobbing venting thing and um alexia is just alexia does not care alexia is clearly like getting her nails done and just giving her like generic support you know she's like oh yeah lisa oh my god i can't believe she said that to me and she calls me all these things she said there's red flags everyone hates you you have no friends yeah no yeah no that's terrible no that's not nice that's not nice

Speaker 2 that's not not true. That's so generic.
True.

Speaker 2 No, no. I want the poppy.
Poppy red. What?

Speaker 2 No, just, you're just popping red mad right now, Lisa. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 I'll do the paraffin, please. What? I mean,

Speaker 2 you are a par, you are, you are a parent and you are

Speaker 2 fantastic.

Speaker 2 Oh, oh, okay, Right. I am.
But hold on. I'm getting kicked out of the bathroom by a stranger.

Speaker 2 Because there's a lady in the stall. Lisa is, she is sobbing and she's going on and on and on.
And there's a lady in the stall.

Speaker 2 And you just see the camera just showing this woman's feet, just like, oh my God, I want to leave this bathroom stall. But there's a woman having a meltdown outside by the sink.

Speaker 2 I can't believe if my feet were filmed under a stall, I would feel so violated.

Speaker 2 It is kind of violating. Yeah.
And then they cut back to Larsa, and Larsa is just waiting. And Larsa is fine.
She's like, I don't care how long it takes. She is on her social media.

Speaker 2 She's like watching a Trump speech. That was amazing.
That we need more of that. I want to see what these housewives are looking at.

Speaker 2 She's like, oh, wow. But then she goes from like the Trump speech to like a makeup tutorial.
Yeah. Yeah.
Some sort of influencer. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Just passed the time.

Speaker 2 Just a day in the life of Larsa Pippen going from Trump to

Speaker 2 pick up tutorials. Fashion, whatever.

Speaker 2 So then Lisa is like,

Speaker 2 Lisa is like really,

Speaker 2 now she's moved from the bathroom and now she's just gone into the restaurant and she is top. She's like, and another thing.
I'm meeting Nehoda Piers. Everyone's piling up on me.
I just lost my dad.

Speaker 2 I mean, it's so horrible. You understand?

Speaker 2 And the host comes up to her and goes,

Speaker 2 Miss, excuse me. Hi.
You're being a little loud. Can you go outside please

Speaker 2 oh oh yeah oh you out okay okay uh-huh

Speaker 2 it happens to her

Speaker 2 she's used to it

Speaker 2 oh my god it was so amazing yeah she didn't even she didn't even get mad at the host she was like uh-huh uh-huh yeah i'm just heard it before right it just rolls right over yeah i know the drill i know the drill it's it's amazing to me because they go into these restaurants and when they have cameras they feel like they're infallible they can just do and say whatever they want in a public place.

Speaker 2 And they never think that they're going to be approached about

Speaker 2 shutting up or quieting down ever.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And it was like, I think this is the first time we ever saw someone on the history of the real housewives, we ever saw an employee say, you're being a little too loud.

Speaker 2 We're going to need you to step outside. Okay.
That's what I thought. That's what I thought.

Speaker 2 There's a very strange lady out there watching a makeup tutorial. Maybe you want to sit with her.
I don't know. Oh, that's your friend.
Great. Even better.

Speaker 2 Yes. See how quiet she's being?

Speaker 2 That's your example.

Speaker 2 They're going to give her and give Lisa one of those like iPads. It's like for kids.
It's like in the shape of like a frog. And be like, here, would you like this? Right.
And some crayons.

Speaker 2 And the menu, like a kid's menu. A maze.
Oh, God. Lisa will be stuck on that maze for a few hours.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Lenny used to do all the mazes.

Speaker 2 What's even the point? Why are you in the maze in the first place?

Speaker 2 So she comes back

Speaker 2 and she's like, you know, I don't even know what to say. Like, I'm really hurt.
Like, and I think that like maybe you wanted that. Maybe you wanted to hurt me.

Speaker 2 And Lars is like, am I trying to hurt you? Like, by trying to, by telling you to be a better friend, like, like, what have I done to you besides be there for you and X, Y, Z and this and that?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like, you always say that. You always say that.
You're always saying stuff like that.

Speaker 2 You can call me anytime. I always answer.
Okay.

Speaker 2 The moral of the story is that like I was like looking for you like to be like a better friend to me and this and that and XYZ and like that's where it all stemmed from because like I love you and I'm sorry I came to Jodi's party and called you a bitch even though you were totally being a bitch.

Speaker 2 I'm sorry you lost your dad and it felt like it wasn't there for you even though it was totally there for you. You're being such a bitch about it.

Speaker 2 Maybe I should have been like, I don't know, more there for you because you're such a bitch. You don't even realize it like that.

Speaker 2 But can you accept some responsibility in being a bitch?

Speaker 2 Um, yeah, I guess so. I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 2 I mean, I sort of, if I would have known all that stuff was happening and like, I would have known about your emotions, I like, I didn't know you had feelings and like emotions because you've never called me to tell me that and you've never told me about that you even had them or were given them by anyone.

Speaker 2 So, I'm sorry for that, that he didn't know you had emotions. And I, you know, I'm just like, when you have your feelings and you felt them, like, I just didn't think they were real.

Speaker 2 So it was like hard to understand you.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, I get it.

Speaker 2 So, um, I think we both just have to do a better job of communicating and like picking up the phone and then like putting the phone down again and then picking it up and then maybe put it down again.

Speaker 2 It's called a workout.

Speaker 2 Not everything.

Speaker 2 Our situation went too long. It's gone on forever.
Like,

Speaker 2 Yeah. I hate it.
I hate, I hate you. I mean, I don't like having conflicts.
So, I mean, like, I'm okay with this. And I got a really good storyline right now.

Speaker 2 So, I mean, it's probably about time we make up.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And so they, you know, they basically are like, we don't like conflict.
We don't need to do this anymore. And like, I miss you and I love you.
And so they hug.

Speaker 2 And the customary Larsa versus Lisa early season fight finds resolution at long last.

Speaker 2 And we'll see how long it lasts. but for right now they are smiling and happy and in a good place again

Speaker 2 it's beautiful that that julia came to celebrate that moment for them truly so that was it that was the end of this episode amy a joy as always i just have so much fun so much fun talking to you okay oh my god i do too i'm sorry you're i'm sorry

Speaker 2 i'm sorry too i'm sorry i'm sorry too okay thank you you do what i was talking to my my my best friend's slash daughter, Avery. And you know what she said?

Speaker 2 It doesn't matter what she said because she looks older than I do. Okay.
Avery looks old. I look young.
Okay. Sorry.

Speaker 2 Oh my God. She does probably say that verbatim.

Speaker 2 Well, for a while, she said, like, we look like we're sisters, but now she probably says, like, well, my daughter looks older than me. That's how good my skin routine is.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Somebody said to me the other day, I was shopping. Okay.

Speaker 2 I was getting ingredients for chicken a la uh florence. I can't remember the chicken she was making during COVID.
It was like, oh, damn. It was like this.
Chicken a la chicken mar-a-lago.

Speaker 2 That's what it was. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And someone said, you know what? You look younger than your daughter.
And I was like, what? Okay.

Speaker 2 All right. I'm going to say it.
I'm going to repeat it. That's what it is.

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