#2931 RHOM S7E6 Part 1: Narcs and Recreation w/ Amy Philips

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Speaker 2 Hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about.

Speaker 2 I'm Ben Mandelker, and joining me today, in place of Ronnie, please welcome back the one and only Amy Phillips from Drama Darling. Hi, Amy.
How are you? Hello, I'm great.

Speaker 2 It's so nice to see you again.

Speaker 2 Oh, it's great to have you here, especially because today we're doing Real Housewives of Miami, and you have a pink neon sign behind you, which feels very Miami.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you clearly, are you broadcasting from Miami Beach right now? South Beach Beach.

Speaker 2 I am. I'm in South Beach.
I just, I took Stephanie's private jet because I had some dogs to pick up. So I went ahead and she was able to pick me up in Santa Clarita.

Speaker 2 Mia

Speaker 2 and Danny and I. Danny.
Yeah. We left here.
Now we're in, you know, Miami and we're going to be remote this week. Great.

Speaker 2 I'm so happy to hear that.

Speaker 2 I'm so glad that you found a proper Miami-themed set for your Miami visit. Thank you.

Speaker 2 And I've got my shirt on as well. That's popping some, I feel like Miami colors, you know? You know, you're smart.
I'm also wearing stripes. We're both wearing stripes.
You are wearing Miami colors.

Speaker 2 I am wearing just a random, like, like, like navy and white sort of nautical look. It is nautical.
I love it. I love a nautical look.
Yeah, you're such a nice.

Speaker 2 I'm a naughty cow.

Speaker 2 Naughty cow.

Speaker 2 Fortunately, the cow doesn't really make sense part of it. This is actually, if you're looking at it, this is one of the first t-shirts I ever made for myself.
Wait, oh, that's one of your originals?

Speaker 2 Yeah, this is when I first started to sew. And you can tell because you can see this crazy white line that's around the collar.
Can't see it from here. Oh, I see it now.
Well, you're pointing it out.

Speaker 2 I mean, you're stretching the material.

Speaker 2 It looks so good. I was going to mention that the collar is such a great style.
I love the style of the collar. And you created that.

Speaker 2 Wow. Yeah.
Well, you know what? I like to think that when I'm not podcasting, I'm innovating fashion. So thank you for recognizing my hard work over here.
You're welcome. Please.

Speaker 2 And please, please tell the people in Miami. I just get really emotional when we talk about your work and like people's work and just like working and stuff, you know?

Speaker 2 It's yeah, you are like Stephanie Shojay

Speaker 2 who just loves work. Shojai Masaud, yes.

Speaker 2 I don't know. Is that how he says her last name? Shojayi.

Speaker 2 Well, no, you're right. I don't know.
His name is Massoud. I don't know how to pronounce her last name.
So I think you're right on that. Okay, let's call her Steph S.

Speaker 2 Steph S., I have to say, I have, since we recorded last week, I have had your Gina voice in my head. Exactly.

Speaker 2 And I have been laughing at intermittent times of you doing that like escalating Gina voice. It is my favorite.

Speaker 2 So I really recommend, in case you missed it, everyone go back and listen to the Orange County season premiere, Joseph Hear Amy's impersonation of Gina, which was so, so, so funny.

Speaker 2 And I apologize if it hurts your ears. And please, just, you know,

Speaker 2 I think I tailor it down a little bit towards the middle, just so as a respectable, you know, voice on not my podcast. So I just want to to make sure I'm not hurting your listeners' ears, darling.

Speaker 2 Listen, these are Krappens listeners. They've had to endure all my weird noises for years and years.

Speaker 2 I love your little name. Don't you worry.
You are in a safe space. I got so many followers.
I got like so many people. They're so nice.

Speaker 2 Like, I don't, I've, anytime I've been welcomed into the Krappens universe, everyone just really is embracing, very embracing. So thank you.
Well, you are welcome here.

Speaker 2 And in fact, everyone should go subscribe to Amy's podcast.

Speaker 2 Before we dive into this Miami recap, everyone go subscribe right now, Drama Darling, available on all platforms and follow Amy Phillips on all social media on Instagram.

Speaker 2 What's your handle on Instagram and Twitter or wherever you are? Yeah, at Meet Amy Phillips. You know, and I'm teetering.
I'm at like 98.8 and I'm teetering. So push me over the edge.

Speaker 2 Push me over the edge. And that's at Meet Amy Phillips.
And then, of course, Drama Darling Show is also on Instagram. Great.

Speaker 2 I am teetering.

Speaker 2 I'm teetering in general, like no matter what I do. Whatever the context I'm teetering.

Speaker 2 But I'm cheetering at 40,000. I'm just trying to hit 50K because I hear that you can get cool influencer things.

Speaker 2 At 50K, you can like

Speaker 2 make cool videos and stuff. Yeah, that's what I've heard.
Whoa. Okay.

Speaker 2 Yeah, because

Speaker 2 last summer I did like an influencing video for Quest Bars and it was so much fun. And I was like, I want to do more of these little videos because I just enjoyed making a video.

Speaker 2 And then I was told, yeah, you basically need more followers. So that's my way of saying, um, people follow me too.
Yeah. Let's stop teetering.
Let's get our teeth up and let's get some followers.

Speaker 2 Let's cross that line. Yours is an easier goal to hit than mine.
Mine, I'm actually asking for a solid 10k more people. You're just, you just need like 2K.
And then you're

Speaker 2 see. We'll see.
All right. Teats up, everybody.
Teets. No more teetering.
We want to stand in our truth on the other side of those numbers.

Speaker 2 So today we are talking Miami.

Speaker 2 We are not talking, we didn't, I'm not bringing it back for Orange County because Ronnie's going to be back for Orange County. He's finally making his grand return for the Orange County.

Speaker 2 It's next second episode.

Speaker 2 What do you think so far about the Miami season before we dive in? Oh, I mean, I love, I love Miami. I love it so much.
I, I absolutely love Stephanie. I am very much here for her.

Speaker 2 At first, I was like, okay, another

Speaker 2 kind of felt like Vicki Gondelson was like, another bitch I gotta like. And then also another bitch that's like keeps talking about her Birkins.

Speaker 2 I'm like, are we, are we still obsessed with Birkins as a rich person? Can we move on from that? You're so rich. Do something original.
Let's stop with the Birkins.

Speaker 2 Let's put them in your glass closets with locks and just move on. Get something different to talk about.
So I was really put off by her at the beginning about the Birkin.

Speaker 2 Also, you know, taking the private jet to go pick up the dogs. I was like, does Florida really need that much extra fuel spilled on their heads at the beach? But then

Speaker 2 probably not. But then she read Lisa in that Sprinter van for being late, like a school marm.

Speaker 2 And I,

Speaker 2 I am now full steam ahead with Stephanie. Yes.
We are not teetering on her. She's very marm forward.

Speaker 2 I loved it. Oh my God.
When she, when she just berated Lisa Lisa about being late, do you think your time is more important than mine? Do you think your time is better than alts?

Speaker 2 I thought that was so great. It was so wonderful.
And I was actually a little sad that in this episode, she kind of pulled back a little bit.

Speaker 2 She's like, you know, I was just, I was like, no, live in that. Stay, keep that, keep your foot on, on the pedal.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But, um, but you know, Lisa got plenty of, she, she, Stephanie didn't even need to do that because she got it from all angles this episode and it was hilarious.

Speaker 2 She even got it from a host from a restaurant, which is something we we rarely see. I know.
And a restaurant that was actually looked pretty empty,

Speaker 2 except for that later. We were holding a meditation retreat.
I know.

Speaker 2 Okay, so we're picking up in that sprinter van after Stephanie has just torn a new one into Lisa. By the way, I've not had coffee today.

Speaker 2 So who knows if I'm going to be able to like, I'm just, I'm just praying. Those stripes on your shirt are going to give you all the energy you need.
Okay.

Speaker 2 I know. Just lean into the stripes, nautical energy.
Okay. It's like, you know, stripes, stripes are the new crystal.
Okay. They're just going to give me healing energy.
Stripes are the new crystals.

Speaker 2 People could bring stripes to the reunion.

Speaker 2 Kyle's going to drop some on the floor. So then,

Speaker 2 so they are heading down. They had to this place called Villa Tuscana, which I guess guess maybe is an event space or whatever, has all these nice gardens and everything.

Speaker 2 And Daniel, the

Speaker 2 self-help expert, is there and he's wearing a little crown. And, you know, because it is, as one would expect, a Greek gods and goddesses anti-narcissism party.
And

Speaker 2 like 10 of those.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I just hit the streets the other day in anti-narcissism protest. It was really great.
A lot of thousands of people turned up. Oh, yeah.
Did you make a sign?

Speaker 2 Yeah, i put everyone had flags and they put them all in lisa's face or bucket

Speaker 2 we uh we

Speaker 2 everyone had uh i went to that protest as well anti-narcissism protest and yeah we did we then shoved all of our our signs into like a when we got rid of them we just put them in a big box that said lisa yes oxteen huge had her face on the signs

Speaker 2 i think we made an impact i think so i think we're making changes when jodi foster got up on that stage and spoke her truth i said yes

Speaker 2 Everyone here who has been affected by Lisa Hoxstein, raise your red flags. I don't know.
I think my Jodi Foster and Sheena impression are the same.

Speaker 2 I'm so glad because I didn't even know you had a Jodi Foster impersonation and you were just ready. You were like, here it comes.

Speaker 2 It is fun. It is fun when you get put on the spot and have to do

Speaker 2 a prominent actress impersonation. A makeshift prominent, yeah.
Yeah, like a Holly Hunter, like a Holly Hunters.

Speaker 2 Holly Hunters, I am speaking out today against narcissism and pro-Greek culture.

Speaker 2 We won't let these people destroy us. Down with all the narcs.

Speaker 2 It's incredible how these narcissists, they just try to take us down. And I did a movie with John Goodman.
I did 1800 movies with John Goodman. And

Speaker 2 he's an excellent narcissist.

Speaker 2 Which makes sense. That's why he got the role of King Ralph.

Speaker 2 And I am Stretchy Girl in that movie, Incredibles.

Speaker 2 You might remember me from my feature film, Broadcast News,

Speaker 2 which was where we were broadcasting news about narcissists. That's where I really was turned on about it.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And also I was in that movie where I was in the desert, and I think Nicholas Cage was in it.

Speaker 2 What was it called? Again, it was a huge hit, huge hit.

Speaker 2 Raising

Speaker 2 Raising Arizona, but the original title was Raising Narcissists.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and now they're going to actually do a reboot called Raising Larsacists.

Speaker 2 We're still waiting for the script.

Speaker 2 That's been in development hell

Speaker 2 because Larsa wrote it. Yeah,

Speaker 2 everyone's best friend, and she wrote it.

Speaker 2 I wrote, like, I like, wrote, like, a script like.

Speaker 2 I thought you guys would like to read it. Like

Speaker 2 Larsa. Larsa,

Speaker 2 Larissa pitching a Hollywood movie that's a somehow a sequel about Raising Arizona. I can see it.
I can too. She's going to get the platform.

Speaker 2 She's going to get the opportunities and she's going to come in and she's going to be like, so glad you're all here.

Speaker 2 And they're going to be huge, huge producers and they're going to be like, why are we here? Like, yeah, somehow she'll like get like the

Speaker 2 like Spielberg. She'll get Spielberg in the room.
She'll get Ron Howard. Howard, yeah.

Speaker 2 They're there. 100%.

Speaker 2 They're all there. A24 lining up.
It's like

Speaker 2 Sick Park meets

Speaker 2 raising Arizona.

Speaker 2 So like, it's a couple and they steal a dinosaur. Like,

Speaker 2 and,

Speaker 2 but it's, like, not their fault because, like, if you don't want the dinosaur stolen, like, why do you even have the dinosaur out there in the first place?

Speaker 2 You know how Larsa's voice changes from like she does like she has like her Kardashian voice, but then when she gets mad, her real voice comes out. Yeah.
That's my favorite part about her.

Speaker 2 You're so right. She does.
She like morphs into the real Larsa. Real Larsa comes out.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's scary.

Speaker 2 I just saw Sinners and

Speaker 2 that was a movie about vampires. And as many people know, because it's like a worldwide hit and I'm just acting like people have never seen it.
But it's a movie about vampires.

Speaker 2 and that's like Larsa's voice: she's sweet and seductive when she's asking to be let into the barn. But when you don't let her in, like, her real voice comes out.

Speaker 2 Sorry, everybody, that was shocking.

Speaker 2 Well, you need to go back in and do like a trigger warning for that.

Speaker 2 That was about pretty accurate. When Larsa gets mad,

Speaker 2 she's like, Lisa, I don't think you understand.

Speaker 2 Let me in. Like,

Speaker 2 so, um,

Speaker 2 anyway, they're arriving here. We've got Daniel, who is clearly

Speaker 2 someone that

Speaker 2 they should turn to for advice on

Speaker 2 narcissism because he's written like six koi expressions on a mirror. And so, I think that makes him very qualified to deal with these things, right? Koy expressions.

Speaker 2 Yes, and he may have written his blurbs on TikTok. We don't know.

Speaker 2 Yeah. We don't know, But yeah, he's definitely qualified.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 He's written such gems as

Speaker 2 never try to defend yourself against a narcissist because they already know you're right.

Speaker 2 Ooh, that's a good one.

Speaker 2 That's like so right. Like.

Speaker 2 That's like so right. Like.

Speaker 2 Or maybe like

Speaker 2 don't make a snack for a narcissist because they already were hungry and already ate.

Speaker 2 I'm like, yeah, that's true. That's a good one.

Speaker 2 That's a good one.

Speaker 2 That's a good one. That is very good.
That's a very good one.

Speaker 2 Damn it. Is that Gertie? That was Gurdy.
That was Gurdy co-signing.

Speaker 2 She was co-signing. Yes.
She's so fast. Boy, she went past those mirrors really quickly.
She can read as fast as she can talk.

Speaker 2 She really burned through that anti-narcissism content. She's like, okay, so nobody gets angry at a narcissist being accused of something they did.
That's absolutely true.

Speaker 2 Oh, no one never tried to defend yourselves again to narcissist. They already know what they're right.

Speaker 2 That's true too. Never give a banana to a narcissist because they might not need it.
That's true, too.

Speaker 2 I hate wasting a banana on a narcissist. Okay, which is the next mirror, please.

Speaker 2 Oh, my gosh. I've never heard your voice.
This is so funny.

Speaker 2 Damn, you were killing me last week with your Terry Dubro.

Speaker 2 The Terry DeBrow thing, I was like, to me, that's like not, this is so like inside the actor studio.

Speaker 2 I was like, but the Terry Dubro thing was like not even like an impersonation that I even thought was like a thing. And you were dying.

Speaker 2 And it was like tickling me so much because it's like, Terry DeBru. Just talked.
I don't even remember what I did.

Speaker 2 Good. I can't.
It's so good. I like, I've never heard anyone do a Terry DeBrux.
And it's like perfection.

Speaker 2 Okay. I'm sorry.
But anyway,

Speaker 2 I love the skill set for me. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like, what makes you qualified, Ben Mandelker, for this job? I can do a good Terry DeBrux impersonation. We're going to pitch a movie.

Speaker 2 And it's going to be starring Terry Dubrow, Larsa Pippen.

Speaker 2 We'll keep working with the casting, but then, you know, we've got to.

Speaker 2 I don't know if Heather's going to make it.

Speaker 2 Unfortunately, Heather has other obligations. She will be appearing on the reboot of Hot in Cleveland.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, they walk into this garden and there's mirrors everywhere, and they all have sort of like meme kind of anti-narcissism quotes on them, like sayings or phrases things that make you

Speaker 2 things that you would remember um what were those cards that people would send to those virtual cards that people would send to each other that were like very sassy it was like it was always like a it was an image of like a lady in the 50s and it was always something like my friend said where's the wine and i said well i just had lunch like that's what the old cards would say talking about now yeah that like older lady who like she always has a bunch of bags maybe or something she's like

Speaker 2 so i went to the store and got a lot of stuff so what you know it's just like those yeah you're right snarky and like we're find like as women we're coming into our own of like F you you know yeah it's like the source of all of Marisol's humor by the way also

Speaker 2 you are so right I truly cannot get enough frankly quite frankly not enough When Marisol sits down for her inside the actress studio, they're like, Marisol, where did you develop your sense of humor?

Speaker 2 Oh, honey, it was e-cards all the way.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 Oh, my mother used to send me e-cards when she didn't want to talk to me. So

Speaker 2 they're funny. I mean,

Speaker 2 you know, between going for e-cards and trying to get some D, I really learned how to get some comic skills.

Speaker 2 Sometimes I used to just open up the paper and just read Cathy cartoons.

Speaker 2 And chocolate. Chocolate, chocolate, chocolate.
Am I right?

Speaker 2 Ag,

Speaker 2 arg,

Speaker 2 Steve.

Speaker 2 Oh, man. I would love a Cathay reboot that was just Marisol.

Speaker 2 Oh, it was ACK. It's ACK, not Arg.
That's what it is. Yeah, but Marisol would say Arg.
Yes. Marisol would say Arg.
I was too in character. That's what it was.
You were a little bit,

Speaker 2 you went there. You went deep.

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Speaker 2 So, um, yeah, they're reading all they're walking around, they're looking at all these mirrors.

Speaker 2 And like, what did you notice was like the Johnny Depp, like written in blood one from the Amber Heard trials. He was like,

Speaker 2 We're done.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's a good one, Johnny Depp.

Speaker 2 No, but do you remember that from the trial? Holly, like, you wrote in blood? Yeah, he's sorry to take a strange person.

Speaker 2 Anyway, he made it into the Miami recap. Okay, sorry.
I would love it. No,

Speaker 2 not only did he make it.

Speaker 2 You don't have to apologize. We've already brought Jody Foster and Holly Hunter into this mix.

Speaker 2 Bring in all the A-list.

Speaker 2 Yes. Welcome.
So they all are, no one really is very impressed with these mirrors. They're like, oh, okay.
Interesting. That's, that's cool.
All right. By the way, Adriana is eyeing the...

Speaker 2 the self-help guy. I've already forgotten his name.
What was his name? Daniel. It's not George.
Daniel. Because he's hot.
So she's like, oh, I mean, the guy's hot.

Speaker 2 I mean, if it was, if I wasn't with Frenchie, I'd sure be going for Australian tonight. I mean, you're going to find me down under.

Speaker 2 I mean, I'd like to play that didery do.

Speaker 2 I'll

Speaker 2 put that Joey in my sack. You know, good day, mate.

Speaker 2 Put that shrimp on my Barbie.

Speaker 2 That's not a knife. This is a knife.

Speaker 2 I'll eat your dingo, baby.

Speaker 2 I don't know what that was, but okay.

Speaker 2 That would actually be very helpful because that dingo did a lot of damage. So, you know, you know, it's good that someone would eat the dingo in turn.
And then the dingo would learn. Revenge.

Speaker 2 Other dingos. Uh-huh.
Take note. Take note, dingos.
Read those mirrors, dingos.

Speaker 2 The original narcissist. Dingo.

Speaker 2 Dingo is so narcissistic.

Speaker 2 Narcissistic, babe.

Speaker 2 So, um, Alexia's saying that they like this party is not about Todd.

Speaker 2 Sorry, but

Speaker 2 yes.

Speaker 2 Todd. Remember that episode where she didn't know how to say Todd's name? She's like, Todd.

Speaker 2 Todd.

Speaker 2 Tod.

Speaker 2 Todd.

Speaker 2 Like, babe, it's called Todd. It's Todd.
Just say Todd. Todd.

Speaker 2 She's like,

Speaker 2 so, but she says this is actually to expose the narcissism. It's really for the other women because they're all a bunch of narcissists, which is

Speaker 2 very true, actually. It's like really right on the money with this group.
100%.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 then Daniel, he starts reading a quote. He's like, all right, everyone, who wants to, he wants to hear a quote about narcissism.
Goes like this. Goes like this.

Speaker 2 I like to tee up my narcissism, Kurtz, because you guys are all narcissists and probably not listening to me. A little something like this, hit it.

Speaker 2 I'll give you a beat.

Speaker 2 Thanks.

Speaker 2 Good people get tired of being good to ungrateful people. You've been cured.

Speaker 2 Drop the beat, drop the narcissism.

Speaker 2 Daniel.

Speaker 2 Yeah. He's so wise.
He's so wise. Good people get tired of being good to ungrateful people.
Wow. I mean, if this person understands the root of narcissism, like

Speaker 2 if he doesn't, then I don't know who would because this right here

Speaker 2 is a mastery of a concept. It truly is.
The words are blending together.

Speaker 2 I don't even know what it means anymore because they're all so generic that I'm like, he could say anything to any of these ladies and they'd be like, yeah, that's true. He's like,

Speaker 2 or narcissism is somebody who likes to give to charities and is selfless in everything they do. Wow, that's so true.
That's so true.

Speaker 2 Gotcha. Gotcha.

Speaker 2 Wow, that was like really wise. Like,

Speaker 2 so

Speaker 2 then,

Speaker 2 um, then they go. now it's another mirror that says the problem with being empathetic is that you feel sorry for the people that hurt you and Gertie's like, oh my God, that is so true.

Speaker 2 I mean, I absolutely feel that way. And the fact that this is a narcissist themed party says a lot because obviously I can't, it's because I think that's like, we have a lot amongst us.

Speaker 2 We have a lot of narcissists. Okay.
And then it cuts to Lisa. And she was the only one looking at these mirrors to look at herself.
And everyone else is reading the quotes off of them.

Speaker 2 And she's like checking out her hair in the mirror. And I was like,

Speaker 2 oh my god, I love this show. It's too good.
Like, you can't even write something this great. She genuinely was like,

Speaker 2 I thought I saw her with some Windex, like wiping off the saying so she could actually see herself better, you know.

Speaker 2 Just a chamois.

Speaker 2 I don't think she even realized there were words there. She just didn't see anything.
She just was looking at her reflection. Right.
She was like, Mulan.

Speaker 2 Mulan, yes. I love.
Yeah. Isn't that that? Isn't there a song? Isn't that a Christina Aguilera song? Like, what does my reflection say about me? or something like that.
Yeah. Yes.

Speaker 2 I know what you're saying. I'm picking up what you're laying down.
Thank you.

Speaker 2 It goes something like this.

Speaker 2 It goes, um,

Speaker 2 look in the pond and you see yourself in the colors of the wind. Wait, we're mixing up Disney movies.
It's Holly Hunting, Holly Hunter doing,

Speaker 2 doing Pocahontas.

Speaker 2 Have you ever seen the wolf cry to the blue corn moon? Which I have. I live in Montana now.

Speaker 2 I don't know if she does, but I feel like she probably does. 100%.

Speaker 2 Holly Hunter definitely lives in Hollywood in Wyoming. She's one of those, one of those, one of those celebrities.
It's like, yeah, I live in Jackson Hole now. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I just fly in when I got to do something for Hollywood. Just, you know.

Speaker 2 You know, every Thursday I have coffee with Frances McDorman down by by the general store because we're normal people. And then we fly to Hollywood to do Hollywood things.

Speaker 2 But we come back, we're normal people. And we say, we say things like this, hi, Jen, to the people who are walking by because we're just one of the folks.

Speaker 2 That's what we do. We just, you know, go out on our land because we have a lot of land there and we just like live off the land.
Sometimes we just set up a bonfire and just have some schmores.

Speaker 2 Yes, read poetry,

Speaker 2 sing songs by Steven Schwartz for Pocahontas, one of our favorites.

Speaker 2 Favorites. And when we get our call to come in to Hollywood, we just drop all that.
And the next thing I know, I'm in glam. And I'm Holly Hunter,

Speaker 2 the actress, the one that didn't say anything for

Speaker 2 what I got an Oscar for in that movie. I didn't say one word to the piano.

Speaker 2 It's a piano.

Speaker 2 Fun fact. I hate piano.

Speaker 2 Band for my ranch. Guitars only.

Speaker 2 And maybe an occasional mandolin.

Speaker 2 Just like Bruce Hornsby in the Range would sing Mandolin Rain. Great song.

Speaker 2 Great man. John Goodman loves that one.

Speaker 2 I once made love to Bruce Hornsby

Speaker 2 in the back of a Margaritaville

Speaker 2 when I was shooting.

Speaker 2 a shizzle reel for her my upcoming reality show called That's Holly.

Speaker 2 It was a shizzle reel and it was it's working its way around Hollywood. That shizzle reel.

Speaker 2 And turns out everyone thought it was Holly Madison. And so they gave it a go.
And then they saw it was me when I flew in from Montana. And they said, no, hard no.

Speaker 2 They replaced me with a younger actress named Tate Addison McRae or something like that. I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 Wow. Holly has a lot to say.

Speaker 2 Shut up. Shut up already.
Jesus.

Speaker 2 narcissist

Speaker 2 so um yeah lisa's looking at herself in the mirror completely missing all this stuff and then she's also um

Speaker 2 like she's found a flower swing and she's now just having a photo shoot like marisol's just taking photos of her while everyone is like reading stuff about narcissism lisa's on there like with a finger in her mouth smiling and being sexy and like with the flowers and she's like fully turning it into a uh a promotional shoot for her instagram Yeah.

Speaker 2 And also taking a page out of Lisa Vanderpump's book, you know, like, oh, watch where you're stepping because you might get an LVP cease and desist.

Speaker 2 Yeah, exactly. You know, please don't bring down Lisa's flower swing brand because she worked very hard for that.
Extremely. Andy,

Speaker 2 I was recently scrolling on Instagram and I saw Lisa, another Lisa on a flowers swing.

Speaker 2 Oh, God. Excuse him.

Speaker 2 Andy, you're supposed to fill in the gap when I go to the.

Speaker 2 You say something now.

Speaker 2 That's when you're supposed to apologize.

Speaker 2 That's my ellipses.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 another mirror says, you don't always have to tell your side of the story. Time will.
And Stephanie's like, oh, that's so me.

Speaker 2 That is 100% me, says the woman who has spent the past two episodes telling her side of the story on like every single thing extensively.

Speaker 2 She's like, you want to hear a story about how my parents met? This is my version of it. Like everything is like that with her.

Speaker 2 You're so right.

Speaker 2 It's like, is this a date line? We're like, why is, why do we keep going back to you? And why do you have to keep like telling your side? You're so right.

Speaker 2 Everything is like that. So, um, but Stephanie and Lisa have like a little bit of, like, this is where they kind of like make nice and everything.

Speaker 2 And Stephanie's being like all nice to her and Lisa's like, you know, like, wow, you, you, you really went in on me on the bus. Like, you know, now you don't want to talk.
Like, what's going on here?

Speaker 2 She's like, oh, God. Like, I'm sorry.
I just, like, I apologize. And like, I have no, I have no problem apologizing again.
I know. I just, it was nice.
It's, you know, it's like a weird,

Speaker 2 like, nothing is really.

Speaker 2 Like they, they bury the hatchets, but like, I think they just don't want to have tension between them. Yeah.
That's right. I think so.
I mean, mean, I think that Stephanie knows that she is new.

Speaker 2 So she does need to keep up appearance in terms of like being nice to all of the OGs. And Lisa, I've actually found that Lisa Hoxteen is pretty forgiving to people

Speaker 2 a lot, you know? I mean, like, obviously not with the Larsa and Lisa thing. It has, you know.

Speaker 2 aren't it's like an octopus you know it just keeps growing and more legs more legs but um i do feel like lisa if you come to Lisa with somewhat of an apology, even though it was totally Lisa's fault because she was like two hours away, right?

Speaker 2 But I do think that she does say like, okay, let's move on. Cause I don't think that she really truly wants that more,

Speaker 2 that many more issues with other people. Yeah.
She also like clearly has devastatingly low self-esteem. And so like, I think that she like, she's like happy to apologize.

Speaker 2 That way she can like be in good. Like, I don't think she likes when when people don't like her.
Right. They agree.

Speaker 2 I, so I think she's like happy to like, to, you know, she'll stand up for herself in her own little way.

Speaker 2 But it's, you know, she's usually going to cave at some point. But notably, I don't, did she actually apologize for being so late, or did she do that last episode?

Speaker 2 Because I don't think I see her apologizing. I didn't hear it.
I just heard her accept the apology from Stephanie.

Speaker 2 Accept the apology. But that being said, Lisa tells us, like, I definitely do not want to be late with Stephanie again because I don't want to hear that ever again.

Speaker 2 It's like, well, so it kind of worked. Oh, yeah.
Good point. That's right.
She said that in her confessional. So we'll see.
Time will see.

Speaker 2 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I think, so they all are sitting on a bench now. I guess, are they going to their benches now?

Speaker 2 Or they're just at like, sorry, this is a pre-bench before they get to the main bench area, right? Because there's a main bench area where Alexia has like a, has like a throne, I believe.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, that's right. It had wings.

Speaker 2 It had like, it was like an Egyptian tomb. It had an underground water system.
Like it had everything.

Speaker 2 It felt like, it felt like it was maybe a clue on like the latest like national treasure, you know, revamp.

Speaker 2 It's like Nicholas Cage was going to have to like go examine that throne to find out where the, the next part of the scavenger hunt is. Totally.

Speaker 2 There's a throne in Miami.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 excuse me, I have a flagrant burp that I was trying to suppress. So I burped everything.

Speaker 2 So flagrant. Flagrp.
Flagrant. Flagrant.
That's like flagrant nurses and burp.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 some of the women are sitting on a bench together. And Larsa is saying how she's been trying to communicate with Lisa and everything.

Speaker 2 They have to have a conversation. And

Speaker 2 so Julia's like, yes, I mean, like Gertie and I, we took time and we had dinner and we talked like two people who are like mature. And Gertie just starts talking completely over.

Speaker 2 Why don't you be Julia and I will be Gertie and we'll express how this conversation went. Noted.

Speaker 2 You start. You start as Julia.
Like Gertie and I, we took time and we had dinner and we talked like we had a dinner. We had a beautiful dinner.
Yes, we had a dinner.

Speaker 2 I mean, I would have liked our dinner to happen sooner, but that's okay. You know, it was, quite a process, it was your process.

Speaker 2 It wasn't my process. I like to, you know, nip things in the bud, but it was you.
It was how you decided that you wanted to do it, and that's fine.

Speaker 2 And you don't have to, you know, you can take a long time. I mean, you hurt me in the process, but it's okay.

Speaker 2 You know, and you know, I don't know if you even knew what you were apologizing for, but I knew what I got what I needed, and I know we can move forward.

Speaker 2 So, the most important part is that you know, you listened to me, and she listened to me, and that was what was good. Feelings,

Speaker 2 yes,

Speaker 2 yeah it's like a symphony really truly you know it's two-part harmony yeah it's like i'm the wind instruments and and you're percussion and and and and woods and

Speaker 2 i was i was some woodwinds i was woodwinds

Speaker 2 there was there was some bassoon happening oh definitely bassoon yeah for sure yeah there was some bassoon yeah uh gurdy just talks completely over julia Um, now, Julia is still the villain, don't get me wrong, but Julia's, Julia's trying to be like, you know, like you guys have to have a conversation.

Speaker 2 Like, the two of us just had a conversation, and and you know, that was really good. And Gertie is basically like, Yeah, we had a conversation.

Speaker 2 I mean, it took her forever to get to it, like, you know,

Speaker 2 even though she was the one who started it, like, took forever, but whatever, we talked about it, everything's good now. And Julia's getting so annoyed that, like, Gurdy's talking right over her.

Speaker 2 Honestly, I, I love Gertie so much, but my God, I could not handle the,

Speaker 2 I was appreciated the editors leaving in the over talk

Speaker 2 because I just felt it so hard. And it really, she just, she surpasses, I think, most housewives in terms of the over talking.

Speaker 2 I mean, it is so impressive, but she also over talks when she's just stating things and not yelling, you know?

Speaker 2 Whereas most housewives just like over talk because they're yelling, but she has the most,

Speaker 2 her perseverance and ability to push through the over talking is

Speaker 2 I've never seen the likes of it. It's it's impressive.
She just jumps right in and just goes and like doesn't stop. It's like when she starts talking, I don't think she even hears other people.

Speaker 2 I think that's the thing. I think that's the thing with like real flagrant over talkers like that.

Speaker 2 They don't even realize another person is talking because they are so tunnel vision on what they have to say. And she was going.
She was going.

Speaker 2 And Julia's sitting there with this look on her face, like,

Speaker 2 I'm trying to say something nice right now.

Speaker 2 I know. She couldn't.
I actually think it's a characteristic of ADHD, although we'll have to ask Adriana because she's already looking at the DMS5, which is nice.

Speaker 2 But I do think that that is something that can be,

Speaker 2 you know, a symptom of that condition is when you talk over people ADHD.

Speaker 2 Cause I was talking with my therapist, talking over my therapist. Sorry.

Speaker 2 And she said, You have ADHD, okay? ADHD is good. You have it.
No.

Speaker 2 I don't want to do this anymore. ADHD.
ADHD.

Speaker 2 She put all the red flags in my bucket during our virtual therapy session. And I was like, wait a minute.
What are all these? Seem healthy. Yeah.
Not seem like a healthy practice.

Speaker 2 In the chat is just like a bunch of red flags and buckets in my chat on Zoom with her.

Speaker 2 No, I did take like one of those tests, you know, like an ADHD kind of test type of thing. And there, I actually didn't qualify as somebody who has ADHD

Speaker 2 entirely. I think I have very small, very few traits of that.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 the biggest traits are like the over-talking somebody. I mean, that is a huge one, big.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 2 Is Is that that's that cuts across like genders and everything? Um, yeah. Wow.
That's very interesting. Well, I'll have to look into that.
I mean, I'm no therapist. Talk over.

Speaker 2 I'm like, do I have ADHD? No, no, no, you don't.

Speaker 2 I do.

Speaker 2 I mean, if I did, it's fine. It's fine.
There's nothing wrong with it.

Speaker 2 We're both like, we stopped talking.

Speaker 2 Like, we're like very, very concerned about talking over each other.

Speaker 2 And now, Amy, it is your turn to speak in a holly hunter voice i'm sorry you go ahead no sorry um obviously this podcasting aside in a regular uh conversation with someone you know do you let them talk are you talking over people all the time no of course not

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, given that there's, there's always going to be a little bit of overlap here and there with everyone, like, et cetera. And, uh, but that's really interesting.
I wonder.

Speaker 2 I wonder with Gertie. Um, so, but she, because she just fully just talks right over Julia.

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Speaker 2 Now it's time for them to play some Greek games. So they go to the other couch area, and this is where we see Adriana's throne, which makes no sense why she has this giant, giant throne.

Speaker 2 And it is noted by people, like, for instance, Adriana, that, like, isn't it funny that a party about narcissism, we have Alexia the host in a giant throne for no good reason?

Speaker 2 No good reason,

Speaker 2 right?

Speaker 2 Like, why is it like this? So, they're going to play one of these games, a fun game that is purportedly to help them address narcissism.

Speaker 2 Although, we don't really see what the game plan is on the therapeutic front, right? It's just like, let's pile on to people.

Speaker 2 Unbelievably

Speaker 2 reckless, and

Speaker 2 no structure and no healing and

Speaker 2 no direction and

Speaker 2 no actual resolution. No beginning, no middle, no end.

Speaker 2 Just like air your dirty laundry. Right.

Speaker 2 So everyone, Daniel hands out like a red flag to everyone and

Speaker 2 he's going to read a statement and then they're going to put a red flag in the vase of the person that they feel like it applies to the most, which I was was like, first of all, you had to get a lot of vases.

Speaker 2 This is a big ask. That's that's that's an impressive haul, all those vases, especially from Australia, like a long way, you know.

Speaker 2 He brought them brought them from home. So, this is my vase suitcase.
I put all my vases in here for the narcissist.

Speaker 2 This one's from Sydney. Sydney's also the name of my ex-boyfriend, who is quite the narcissist.

Speaker 2 Here,

Speaker 2 I always check my mirror bag because I can rip that in bubble wrap, but the vase bag, I always carry that on.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 okay, the first question is, or first statement is, the person who is constantly talking about themselves. So, Marisol,

Speaker 2 I think Marisol starts it because she goes, oh. That's easy.
And then she stands up and she walks so slowly over to the vases. It was kind of like amazing suspense.

Speaker 2 It was like, how is she going to start this off and she's like sorry monkey and then she drops the flag in lisa's vase

Speaker 2 and is like oh i thought there was titos in this vase oh okay

Speaker 2 are there cockies in these vases cockies

Speaker 2 that's well i'll tell you something i i also would talk about myself a lot if i were

Speaker 2 surrounded by such boring bitches got that one from an e-card too So it took me a moment to remember how it went.

Speaker 2 Steve had to remind me this morning because I told him I would say that joke.

Speaker 2 I would talk more if I could not be a friend of.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 basically everyone puts their puts their flags in Lisa's vase.

Speaker 2 Lisa's like, oh, great. Thanks.
Thanks a lot, everyone. And Marison goes, monkey by a landslide.

Speaker 2 She keeps it light.

Speaker 2 Just like laughing at Lisa's pain.

Speaker 2 So Daniel's like, all right, ladies, Lisa had an overwhelming number of six. Monkey for the win.
Monkey for the win. All right.

Speaker 2 I want to know how you feel about that, Lisa. The therapy is about to begin right now.
And she's like, well,

Speaker 2 maybe I tell my problem to the wrong people. I don't know.
Maybe that's my thing.

Speaker 2 Maybe I shouldn't be talking about myself to these girls. I don't know.

Speaker 2 I do love Lisan Defense. She does keep it pretty tight.
Like her comebacks aren't that bad. When she's cornered up, when she's like ganged up on in this situation, she does kind of fight for herself.

Speaker 2 I am pretty impressed. She keeps it nice.
She keeps it nice. She's much better than Larsa.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 She's much better than Larsa because when Larsa has to do a comeback, she just usually goes for the most basic. words and nouns that she can find and strings them together.

Speaker 2 And that works in its own weird way. It's like, if you're like, Larsa, why are you such a dumb bitch? Why are you such a can of beans?

Speaker 2 Like, what?

Speaker 2 You're a stupid can of beans.

Speaker 2 You can't even open the can with a can opener. That's because it's a defective can.

Speaker 2 It's one of those cans that you get at like the dollar store or grocery outlet because it's dented and you can't even open your own can. So can it?

Speaker 2 What? Yeah.

Speaker 2 So can it?

Speaker 2 Doesn't that twist at the end? Can can it?

Speaker 2 So Larsa's like, well, you're annoying people talking about yourself. Like, you feel like your problems are the biggest ones in the room.
Like,

Speaker 2 Lisa's like, well, I also feel like you blame me for not knowing your problems, but you also don't tell me your problems.

Speaker 2 That was actually shocking. I was like, she doesn't?

Speaker 2 I feel like Larsa is always advertising her issues, isn't she?

Speaker 2 I don't know. But then when she was like, well, you don't answer your phone.
I'm like, oh, that's that's actually a good point because Lisa doesn't. Maybe she doesn't.

Speaker 2 That is so rich. That is so rich that Lisa is like, well, I, well, you know, you're blaming me for like, you know, you never talk about your problems.

Speaker 2 Well, you don't answer the phone when I call you to talk about the problems. Well, I mean, I can't be expected to answer the phone.
Right.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 I'm too busy being two hours late to things.

Speaker 2 I got to hang out with Jodi.

Speaker 2 I I also

Speaker 2 like,

Speaker 2 Lisa goes, I also think you should tell the truth and stop saying lies. And Larsa goes, so you're the lie detector test?

Speaker 2 Doesn't even make sense. It doesn't.
I was like, did you see the Orange County trailer or something?

Speaker 2 Why that?

Speaker 2 Lisa Vanderpump in a blazer getting a polygraph done.

Speaker 2 That's right. And that, too.

Speaker 2 So Lisa goes. She's like, I have the receipts.
And Larsa goes, baby girl, I am the receipts.

Speaker 2 Okay. I kind of loved that.
I loved it too, but it truly made no sense. But I loved the, I love the, the, the, the spirit with

Speaker 2 how she said it. You know? Yeah.
She puts a little twist on it, a little sauce on it.

Speaker 2 And her, this is when her real voice was starting to come out. So she's going from like, baby girl, I am the receipt to you, baby girl, I am the receipt.
And you're like, oh, okay.

Speaker 2 Right. She really did get, she started to put a little salt on it, you know?

Speaker 2 And then Lisa, lisa's response to baby girl i am the receipt is is that your halloween costume this year

Speaker 2 so we're getting some dwindling returns on our comebacks now

Speaker 2 right because then larsa has another one too

Speaker 2 try

Speaker 2 go ahead and try to get a dress in your size

Speaker 2 That's much more classic, Larsa. Get a dress in your size, can of beans.

Speaker 2 I didn't hear that. Can you repeat that? Can you repeat that? Can you repeat that? Ignore.

Speaker 2 Ignore. Ignoring.
Ignoring. Ignore.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. You can ignore.
Ignore. Oh, yeah.
Ignore.

Speaker 2 Guess what? I don't get receipts because I like the environment. So you are actually killing whales, Larsa.
Ha.

Speaker 2 Digital receipts sent to my email, not printed.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 email.

Speaker 2 I don't have an email because

Speaker 2 I have Jodi and you don't have anyone. Oh, yeah.
Well, yeah, you got an inbox that just won't stop, right?

Speaker 2 Well, at least my box is in. Your box is out.

Speaker 2 I never said that. I never said that.

Speaker 2 Why?

Speaker 2 Where it goes, ladies i never said your box was in your box isn't in my box is in

Speaker 2 it would go that that place yeah

Speaker 2 um who is the person who is quickest to take offense um it's a little spread out this time we i think everyone kind of like votes for each other right

Speaker 2 um

Speaker 2 uh and stephanie stephanie picked lisa which um you know because they just had a fight etc

Speaker 2 And Daniel's like, all right, everyone. The one that was quick to take offense was Lisa.
She got the most with three. Lisa, are you offended by this? Because if you are, it sort of proves the point.

Speaker 2 She's like, oh,

Speaker 2 this is like a whack game with some whack people.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, quickest to take offense.

Speaker 2 Whack.

Speaker 2 Whack. That's a whack game.
Actually, it is a whack game. I'm not not going to lie.
She's right on that one. It is terrible.
It's terrible. She's right.

Speaker 2 I can't believe she stayed there as long as she did. I know.
I'm shocked. So Lisa's, Lisa has a little monologue where she's like, no, everybody, by the way, has narcissistic traits.

Speaker 2 For God's sake, Larsa has a Larsa light. Okay.
And we see Larsa at Fashion Week, like taking selfies with that like giant Klieg light that she has attached to her phone.

Speaker 2 Excellent edit. Excellent.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So then we have who takes the, who is,

Speaker 2 who has the

Speaker 2 lack of accountability, who has a lack of accountability. And,

Speaker 2 you know, it's just more pylon for Lisa, et cetera. But Adriana keeps on picking Marisol for these, which is fun.
It's like an attack, like the friend upstream for each other. Right.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, wow, I forgot they even had something because they're so not engaging at all on this series so far. It's just so, I was like, oh, right.

Speaker 2 They do not like each other. Yeah, Adriana hasn't gotten in trouble yet this season, which is shocking.
Normally she's in the thick of it by now. She's in the background.
Wow.

Speaker 2 Just, you know, flirting and talking sexy talk with every second she gets. Yeah, well, she's in love, I guess, with Frenchie.
It's taken away a lot of her energy, you know.

Speaker 2 It can happen. Just be careful.

Speaker 2 All right, everyone. Just understand that this is an exercise for everybody to grow and evolve, even though we haven't used any of these questions to try to find growth or evolution.

Speaker 2 Okay, it's not about attacking each other. Oh, excuse me, please.
Can I

Speaker 2 ask you a question?

Speaker 2 Yes, yes, yes, you may.

Speaker 2 If somebody tells you, swap it,

Speaker 2 she just starts an RO.

Speaker 2 That was a little bit more on tune than she can do. I just want to say

Speaker 2 right. All right, it's a beautiful note.
Okay, Thank you. I mean, I'm starting to talk like you.
Anyway,

Speaker 2 I lost my Julia. Okay, here it is.
Now,

Speaker 2 what is your recommendation on how to move forward with someone who you invite on cruise ship that takes this med at Captain Sandy?

Speaker 2 Well, did this person apologize? And are they in this garden with us right now?

Speaker 2 Yes, posh, kind of. And

Speaker 2 I'm looking at her right now.

Speaker 2 Are you looking at a statue right now or one of your castmates? I can't tell with your eyes right now. I'm having a hard time.
It's over there. If you follow my eyes, you can see

Speaker 2 past Alexia's golden chair.

Speaker 2 Listen, my little golden tiara is a little bit heavy. It's just sort of blinding me.
Could you just tell me who you're looking at right now?

Speaker 2 okay. I will sing it for you.
Okay. Okay.
That's acceptable.

Speaker 2 Gitty. Oh, all right.

Speaker 2 So, Gitty hurts you. Can you tell me how good he hits you?

Speaker 2 Getty hurt you. You can sing it.

Speaker 2 If you catch it, you can sing it, and

Speaker 2 I'll be able to heal you of your narcissistic attack. Yes.
Okay.

Speaker 2 My accent is really hard to do.

Speaker 2 No, this is important to my accent.

Speaker 2 Daniel.

Speaker 2 Would you like me to adopt a Russian accent so you feel more comfortable discussing your issues?

Speaker 2 Yes, yes.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 tell me about Gerdy.

Speaker 2 Did she hurt you? Yes. She hurt me.

Speaker 2 Okay, I would like to say that I just want to say that, like, sorry, this is after I was physically assaulted and there's been like a lot to discuss, so I I apologize. But I'm sorry, we're

Speaker 2 thank you very much, Daniel. But uh, there's there's a bit there's a bit much to discuss.
I mean, have you ever heard of a Captain Sandy? I didn't think so. Okay, that's the problem right there.

Speaker 2 Okay, until you can watch your Blow Deck Mediterranean, I don't want to hear you weighing in on our discussion yet. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 All right, so we heard from Hurdy Gertie and says she feels a certain way.

Speaker 2 And now, Julia, could you sing it, Julia?

Speaker 2 What is your reprise?

Speaker 2 Sorry, that is me doing warm-up. Let me, let me, uh,

Speaker 2 this is how I feel.

Speaker 2 Gerdy

Speaker 2 is the worst.

Speaker 2 I'm hearing pain in your aria. Lots of pain.
Lots and lots of pain. I'm also hearing

Speaker 2 Martina. I'm hearing hearing she's having a hard time too.
Yeah?

Speaker 2 Yes, because she found out that so many people are using surrogates and it is very offensive to her.

Speaker 2 All right, well, that's just wrong. I'm going to write it on the mirror over here.

Speaker 2 Surrogates coin in Australia and so it should be fine with Martina.

Speaker 2 Martina also said she always hated Australian open.

Speaker 2 So I guess that all makes sense now. Ouch.
ouch, that hurts. That hurts.
Yes, it does hurt. Can I tell you? I also have another problem with someone.
Can I tell you about my problem? Yes,

Speaker 2 it's with goat.

Speaker 2 God poop all goat.

Speaker 2 My goat poop all over my kitchen. Is my goat a narcissist?

Speaker 2 Your god? The god you cry to?

Speaker 2 God,

Speaker 2 goat, little goat with diaper.

Speaker 2 Little goat with diaper. Little goat, little goat, I worry goat is narcissists.
Oh, okay. I'm concerned.

Speaker 2 How do I save goats? Yeah, in Australia, we have dingoes and diapers. And yeah, they do.
They poop in the kitchen. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So what you got to do is

Speaker 2 you got to write in goat poop on mirrors so they can see what they did wrong. Oh,

Speaker 2 thank you so much. I think this will help.

Speaker 2 What is happening? Can we go?

Speaker 2 Can we move to the other cat bench? No, there's one more question. Okay, here we go.
Statement number four: who plays the victim? Who in this group likes to play the victim?

Speaker 2 And remember, if you get the most votes, you're not allowed to be the victim of this pileup.

Speaker 2 Because it's a trick.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. We're not going to move forward.

Speaker 2 This is getting worse and worse.

Speaker 2 I mean, there's only one can of beans in this group that I'm going to vote for. The dented one, if you know what I'm talking about, receipt coming through.

Speaker 2 Receipt.

Speaker 2 All right, guys.

Speaker 2 It's Lisa. Lisa, do you have anything to say about that?

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 I'm I'm really upset about this. Okay, can I just say something? Can I say something?

Speaker 2 You're, Larsa, you're mad about a photo my boyfriend took with your ex four months ago. That's what this is about.

Speaker 2 Um, I'm not mad at that. We were playing a game.
A game. It was duck, duck.
It's not a game. You're the narcissist, Larsa.
See what I did, everyone. I turned it.
She's the Larsa, the narcissist now.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Lisa, that's not cool. You guys have to move forward.
You guys have to move forward. I'm sorry.
You guys have to move forward. It's very important that you guys move forward.

Speaker 2 I don't want to hear anything more. You guys have to move forward.

Speaker 2 Please apologize already.

Speaker 2 Anything besides, I'm praying for you. Please say that you never texted anything.
Okay. Please.

Speaker 2 Yell at women. You need to say that your boyfriend shouldn't yell at women.
That's what I'm trying to tell you.

Speaker 2 I'm not used to men yelling at me. You have to say that you're not used to men yelling at you.

Speaker 2 so cheap and you had and just say that just remind people that jodi is very very cheap go ahead tell me i'm you know what i'm not lucky okay i'm just not lucky okay lisa

Speaker 2 She's not lucky. Okay, everyone, I want everyone to know she's just not lucky.
Okay, Daniel, are you watching this? Daniel, Daniel, she's not lucky. Daniel.

Speaker 2 She's not a lucky person.

Speaker 2 You know, when Britney Spears was singing, it wasn't about her. She's not lucky.

Speaker 2 It's getting very dark. Yes? Dark?

Speaker 2 He's dark.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 anyway, Larsa and Lisa are in a full-fledged fight, and Daniel cannot, he's trying to control it. He's like, negativity is in the ants' ladies.

Speaker 2 And they just, it's like, Daniel, you, you are, you're an accessory here. You, you've done your work, which is you got them to fight.
You just have to sit back. And he does.

Speaker 2 He then just starts to smile. And he's like, you know what? This is pretty cool.
Yeah. He embraces it.
He's like, I'm out of control.

Speaker 2 I need to let go of control and just let the housewives do what they do.

Speaker 2 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 so

Speaker 2 Larsa

Speaker 2 is saying,

Speaker 2 well, actually,

Speaker 2 sorry, there's the fight is still, so the fight is

Speaker 2 really rampaging on. And

Speaker 2 Lisa says

Speaker 2 something about Larsa's boobs. What is it? She says.

Speaker 2 This was so weird. So Lisa starts to kind of threaten Larsa about the things that she could say about her.

Speaker 2 And so

Speaker 2 Larsa's like, say it. Go ahead and say it, honey.

Speaker 2 Honey.

Speaker 2 Girl, girl, honey. Okay, girl, honey, baby.
Say it. And she's like,

Speaker 2 you told me that Marcus doesn't have it like that.

Speaker 2 You don't want your tits to be down to your knees before you guys get married. Okay.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Did I really say that?

Speaker 2 Yeah, you did. No, I didn't.
I didn't. I didn't.
And then, and then Stephanie and Julia are completely confused about what context this is in. And we have no idea as fans.
It makes zero sense.

Speaker 2 I don't know what she's talking about. Is she talking about plastic surgery? Is she talking about how Marcus doesn't want to be with her and she needs to keep herself high and tight?

Speaker 2 And that's Larsa's just like, um, my shit. I don't know what she says.
My shit is tight. My, I'm, I'm up and tight.
Tight and right. Right and tight is how I do.

Speaker 2 I'm tight. Everything's tight.
Maybe Lisa should stop worrying about my boobs and start worrying about how everyone in the group thinks she's a narcissist.

Speaker 2 Which is a fair point. It's a good point, man.

Speaker 2 Even Daniel's like, oh, you agree? It's actually a good point.

Speaker 2 It's an evergreen kind of statement. Maybe you should stop thinking about my boobs and about how everyone thinks you're a narcissist.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 Larsa's like, you know what I told you? Because now her voice is, you know what I told you? I said, I don't need a man. You know, you know what I told you.
I'm independent. Okay.

Speaker 2 You know what I told you? I'm teaching my kids to be independent. You know what I told you?

Speaker 2 I don't know what you're doing. You know what I told you? I know what I'm doing.
And you know what I told you? I'm done. And that's what I told you.
And then her voice comes back. It comes back down.

Speaker 2 And she will never leave a scene. She will get, she'll go full force.
She'll hit her crescendo. She'll come back down.
She's not leaving that pit, that symphony pit.

Speaker 2 She's not going to leave a scene ever. And good for her.
I think you'd say she stands on business.

Speaker 2 She She stands on business. Yeah, Stephanie actually stands on business because she loves business.
So Lisa,

Speaker 2 Lisa's like, I know what you're doing. You can throw it, but you can't take it.
Oh, yeah. Count the flags.
I'm good. I'm good.
I'm good.

Speaker 2 Count the flags.

Speaker 2 Count the flags. Larsa deserves some more flags.
I feel like everyone should have been able to give out two flags. Absolutely.
And that montage was a perfect

Speaker 2 reminder of why Larsa should have received more flags. The things that she's done in the past were great, you know, for the show and deserves awards such as red flags.
Yes. So Daniel has a new update.

Speaker 2 By an overwhelming score of 50,000 flags to zero, Lisa has won category five.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 who here picks Lisa? Alexia, did you pick Lee a flag for Lisa? Alexia, would you explain why you chose Lisa, please?

Speaker 2 You do, Alexia, because I like your Alexia.

Speaker 2 Okay, well, thank you so much.

Speaker 2 Thank you for saying that you like my Alexia because like I can relate to Lisa, you know, because I'm also going to a very difficult time in my life, but I choose not to play the victim. Okay.
So

Speaker 2 I just want to say,

Speaker 2 I don't play the victim. What I do do is I go out to dinner with a whole bunch of gay men and then I cry and scream in the restaurant and say, I want all the narcissists to die.

Speaker 2 But I don't play the victim.

Speaker 2 So, when you invited Lisa here today, did you want her to not be

Speaker 2 a victim because you feel like she's being a victim in her divorce and you're not being a victim in yours?

Speaker 2 That is absolutely correct. I am absolutely not being a victim, and that's the reason why I had this party, so that way you could understand the narcissism that I've had to deal with.

Speaker 2 Bethold, and it's been a very difficult time for me during this divorce. And now you understand what it's like to stand in the shoes of a star who's dealt with narcissism.

Speaker 2 But yes, I'm absolutely not the victim at all, Not at all.

Speaker 2 I agree. I co-sign.
Good point, Alexa. Alexia.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. Star.
This star says thank you to you. Thank you so much.
Star.

Speaker 2 And then Lisa, Alexia's chair. Thanks, everybody.
And then Lisa cries. And then she leaves as she, well, she says that Adriana is her safe space.
and starts to cry. Because Adriana's like, you guys,

Speaker 2 don't you realize, like, this is a pileup. Like, this is the only, like, do you guys not realize she lost her dad seven days ago? And I was like, well, that is a fair point.
It is.

Speaker 2 It is. They're so, they are savages on this show.
Truly. I'm surprised Larsa wasn't like, then what are you doing here? Why are you at this retreat?

Speaker 2 Why are you here reading mirrors when your dad just died? Why? Yeah. You should be in Toronto crying.
Yeah, you should be in Jodi's eyes, crying in his eyes, his two big eyes.

Speaker 2 You should be doing something sad. Why are you here?

Speaker 2 Do something sad.

Speaker 2 She's like, Larsa, you know, there's nothing to do that's sad in Miami. That's why we live here.
There's nothing sad in Miami.

Speaker 2 Everything is fun and wonderful here.

Speaker 2 And she's like, I was like literally playing the game. Like, and I was not the only one that felt like that.
Like, okay, because we all felt the same thing.

Speaker 2 Like, and she was like, well, when we actually tell the truth and how we feel, we get punished. How is this a fair? It is like getting pooped on by goat in the kitchen.

Speaker 2 And then,

Speaker 2 cut to the montage of Larsa.

Speaker 2 Lisa's like, I'm sorry, Larsa has done fucked up shit to all of you guys. And here's the montage to prove it.

Speaker 2 An extended montage of Lisa being heinous.

Speaker 2 I mean, Larsa is really heinous. She really, she really tops the charts with that one, you know?

Speaker 2 But that's why it really has to sting when everyone puts your flag in your vase when Larsa is there.

Speaker 2 Like anytime that Larsa is not getting a flag and you get one, you just know you've really, you should know you've messed up at that point. Yeah,

Speaker 2 that's, that should be your own little wake-up call.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So Lisa goes, she goes inside because it's also like a thunderstorm is happening now. So they're all going inside to a brightly lit room.

Speaker 2 And so lisa goes to cry uh she's like you know it's her standard thing she goes into a restroom she cries this won't be the last time it happens this episode

Speaker 2 and um you know maris is like well she got the flag at every single game i mean she's a big winner winner winner monkey dinner am i right

Speaker 2 oh god i need a khaki

Speaker 2 khaki

Speaker 2 um but yeah lisa's like i hate these people like i don't want to i don't want to be i just don't even really enjoy hanging out with this group i just don't want to be I don't want to be with these people.

Speaker 2 I will continue to film with them as long as they keep paying me, though. Absolutely.
Yes. Right.

Speaker 2 I thought that was one of the most honest statements I ever heard when she was like, I actually don't even like hanging out with this group. I was like, thank you for saying that.

Speaker 2 So we all could hear it. I hear you.
And so, but good on you for sticking with it.

Speaker 2 So, Daniel, after the Larsa montage, Daniel is like, all right, everyone, I just want to say thank you for participating tonight. I think the exercises will be positive in the end.
end.

Speaker 2 Yes, they were, you did a great job, Daniel. You know, your,

Speaker 2 your years of being a self-help expert really shone through in this moment where you really helped no one at all.

Speaker 2 Did he lose followers?

Speaker 2 Is that the question? That's, I want to that he gained, I'm sure he gained followers because he's like a hot guy and he's on TV and that's really well all out and editing.

Speaker 2 I guarantee I haven't I've actually not looked looked up his Instagram, but I'm sure he's one of those people that posts like a shirtless photo of himself. And then he has like a thirst trap.

Speaker 2 And then the caption is something like,

Speaker 2 don't give into narcissism because it will destroy you from the inside out.

Speaker 2 And it's like, you can't make fun of him for having a thirst trap because he put something serious about narcissism in the caption. Yeah, you're absolutely right.
He 100%

Speaker 2 has some glamour shots of him in that flowered swing, I would imagine. And it's like, you know, in and shirtless and just in just looking fantastic and just being like, swing through life,

Speaker 2 swing back at your narcissist.

Speaker 2 If you wait, let me workshop this. So it's you can get there.
Okay. You can get there.
So it's if you don't jump off the swing of a narcissistic relationship, you'll always be going back and forth.

Speaker 2 It may look like it's flowers, but it's not. That's too long.
I,

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 So I found his Instagram. He has 823,000 followers,

Speaker 2 which is crazy.

Speaker 2 Gosh.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 He has a book called Stop Letting Everything Affect You.

Speaker 2 It's said like that.

Speaker 2 I want you to read the audiobook, please. Stop letting everything affect you.
What is wrong with you? You just can't do this.

Speaker 2 he actually shockingly does

Speaker 2 so he doesn't he does not have any shirtless photos he has a lot of photos where he looks like he's being interviewed by diane sawyer and he's like a checkerboard so it's like him and then saying and then him then saying so he has things like the longer you go without something the more comfortable you are without it that goes for people too

Speaker 2 I'm trying to maintain the

Speaker 2 tone. Stay away from people who expect you to prioritize them, but don't think twice about putting you last.

Speaker 2 Dear Ben Mandelke,

Speaker 2 I heard your podcast and you're giving my brand the wrong narrative. That's not how I meant it to sound.
You're more like a khaki cartoon or those greeting cards. I'm more of a sexy,

Speaker 2 vulnerable, strong sound. Could you go, could you please, this is a cease and desist from reading my captions.

Speaker 2 You're ruining the tone of what I'm saying. Okay,

Speaker 2 it's supposed to say, A wrong partner will find you in peace and leave you in pieces.

Speaker 2 Spelled P-I-E-C-E-S. Get it? Because it's peace and then pieces.

Speaker 2 A right partner will find you in pieces and lead you to peace. So now we go from P-I-E-C-E to P-E-A-C-E.
Do you see what's going on there? Did you see what I did there? Get this.

Speaker 2 Did you see what I did there?

Speaker 2 I worked hard on it.

Speaker 2 Here's a really good

Speaker 2 saying.

Speaker 2 Hi, everyone. I need your help picking the cover for my new book.

Speaker 2 That was one. That was one of them.

Speaker 2 That reminds me of Craig. Remember when Craig caught over? He was like one of the only ones that gave us a say in his book cover.
I appreciated that. Remember that?

Speaker 2 His sewing down south or whatever his book was. I don't remember that, actually.
I'm sad.

Speaker 2 I would have definitely contributed it was during COVID, and he had like three or four different covers, and it was really fun to like weigh in. And he went with the one that everybody picked.

Speaker 2 What was the one that he was the name of his book? I don't know. I don't know.
That's what it's called. Stuck in the pillows.
Pillows of life. I don't know.
It was about pillows. Stuck in the pillows.

Speaker 2 Stuck in the pillows of life.

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