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Hello and welcome to Watch What Crap Ins, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about.

I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today, in place of Ronnie, please welcome back the one and only Amy Phillips from Drama Darling.

Hi, Amy.

How are you?

Hello.

I'm great.

It's so nice to see you again.

Oh, it's great to have you here, especially because today we're doing Real Housewives of Miami, and you have a pink neon sign behind you, which feels very Miami it is set yeah you you clearly are you broadcasting from Miami right now South Beach

I am I'm in South Beach I just I took Stephanie's private jet um because I had some dogs to pick up So I went ahead and she was able to pick me up in Santa Clarita.

Mia

and Danny and I.

Yeah, we left here.

Now we're in, you know, Miami and we're going to be remote this week.

Great.

I'm so happy to hear that.

I'm so glad that you found a proper Miami-themed set for your Miami visit.

Thank you.

And I've got my shirt on as well that's popping some, I feel like Miami colors, you know?

You know, you're smart.

I'm also wearing stripes.

We're both wearing stripes.

You are wearing Miami colors.

I am wearing just a random, like, like, like navy and white sort of nautical look.

It is nautical.

I love it.

I love a nautical look.

Yeah, you're such a naughty.

I'm a naughty cow.

Naughty cow.

Yeah, the cow meant.

Unfortunately, the cow doesn't really make sense part of it.

This is actually, if you're looking at it, this is one of the first t-shirts I ever made for myself.

Wait, oh, that's your originals?

Yeah, this is when I first started to sew.

And you can tell because you can see this crazy white line that's around the collar.

Can't be from here.

Oh, I see it.

Well, you're pointing it out.

I mean, you're stretching the material.

It looks so good.

I was going to mention that the collar is such a great style.

I love the style of the collar and you created that.

Wow.

Yeah.

Well, you know what?

I like to think that when I'm not podcasting, I'm innovating fashion.

So thank you for recognizing my hard work over here.

You're welcome.

Please.

And please, please tell the people in Miami.

I just get really emotional when we talk about your work and like people's work and just like working and stuff, you know?

It's, yeah, you are like Stephanie Shojai,

who just loves work.

Shoujay Masaud, yes.

I don't know, is that how you say her last name?

Shojayi.

Shojay Madai.

Well, no, you're right.

I don't know.

His name is Masoud.

I don't know how to pronounce her last name, so I think you're right on that.

Okay, we'll call her Steph S.

Steph S.

I have to say, I have...

Since we recorded last week, I have had your Gina voice in my head.

And I have been laughing at intermittent times of you doing that like escalating Gina voice.

It is my favorite.

So I really recommend, in case you missed it, everyone go back and listen to the Orange County season premiere just to hear Amy's impersonation of Gina, which was so, so, so funny.

And I apologize if it hurts your ears.

And please just, you know, it, it, I, I think I tailor it down a little bit towards the middle, just so as a respectable, you know, uh, voice on not my podcast.

So I just want to make sure I'm not hurting your listeners' ears, Sterling.

Listen, these are Krappens listeners.

They've had to endure all my weird noises for years and years.

I love your listeners.

Don't you worry.

You are in a safe space.

I got so many followers.

I got like so many people.

They're so nice.

Like, I don't, I've, anytime I've been welcomed into the Krappens universe, everyone just really is embracing, very embracing.

So thank you.

Well, you are welcome here.

And in fact, everyone should go subscribe to Amy's podcast.

Before we dive into this Miami recap, everyone go subscribe right now, Drama Darling, available on all platforms and follow Amy Phillips on all social media, on Instagram.

What's your handle on Instagram and Twitter or wherever you are?

Yeah, at meet Amy Phillips, you know, and I'm teetering.

I'm at like 98.8 and I'm teetering.

So push me over the edge.

Push me over the edge.

And that's at meetamy Phillips.

And then, of course, Drama Darling Show is also on Instagram.

Great.

I am teetering.

I'm teetering in general, like no matter what I do, whatever the context I'm teetering.

But I'm teetering at 40,000.

I'm just trying to hit 50K because I hear that you can get cool influencer things that when at 50k you can like

make cool videos and stuff yeah that's what i've heard oh okay yeah

yeah because because last summer i did um like an influencing video for quest bars and it was so much fun and i was like i want to do more of these little videos because i just enjoyed making a video and then i was told yeah you basically need more followers so that's my way of saying um people follow me too yeah let's stop teetering let's get our teeth up and let's get some followers

Let's cross that line.

Yours is an easier goal to hit than mine.

Mine, I'm actually asking for a solid 10K more people.

You're just, you just need like 2K and then you're.

We'll see.

All right.

Teats up, everybody.

Teats.

No more teetering.

We want to stand in our truth on the other side of those numbers.

So today we are talking Miami.

We are not talking,

I'm not bringing you back for Orange County because Ronnie's going to be back for Orange County.

He's finally making his grand return for the Orange County next second episode.

What do you think so far about the Miami season before we dive in?

Oh, I mean, I love, I love Miami.

I love it so much.

I, I absolutely love Stephanie.

I am very much here for her.

At first, I was like, okay, another

kind of felt like Vicki Gondolson was like, another bitch I got to like.

And then also another bitch that's like, keeps talking about her Birkins.

I'm like, are we, are we still obsessed with Birkins as a rich person?

Can we move on from that?

You're so rich.

Do something original.

Let's stop with the Birkins.

Let's put them in your glass closets with locks and just move on.

Get something different to talk about.

So I was really put off by her at the beginning about the Birkin.

Also, you know, taking the private shed to go pick up the dogs.

I was like, does Florida really need that much extra fuel spilled on their heads at the beach?

But then,

probably not.

But then she read Lisa in that Sprinter van for being late, like a school marm.

And I, I am now full steam ahead with Stephanie.

Yes.

We are not teetering on her.

She's very marm forward.

And I loved it.

Oh my God.

When she, when she just berated Lisa about being late, do you think your time is more important than mine?

Do you think your time is better than alts?

I thought that was so great.

It was so wonderful.

And I was actually actually a little sad that in this episode, she kind of pulled back a little bit.

She's like, you know, I've just, I was like, no, live in that.

Stay, keep that, keep your foot on the pedal.

Yeah.

But, um, but you know, Lisa got plenty of

she

Stephanie didn't even need to do that because she got it from all angles this episode, and it was hilarious.

She even got it from a host from a restaurant, which is something we rarely see.

I know, and a restaurant that was actually looked pretty empty,

except for that later.

We were holding a meditation retreat I know

okay so um we're picking up in that sprinter van um after Stephanie has just torn a new one into Lisa by the way I've not had coffee today so who knows if I'm even gonna be able to

like I'm just I'm just praying those stripes right on your shirt are gonna give you all the energy you need okay

I know.

Just lean into the stripes, nautical energy.

Okay, it's like, you know, stripes, stripes are the new crystal.

Okay.

They're just going to give me healing energy.

Stripes are the new crystals.

People are going to bring stripes to the reunion.

Kazan drops him on the floor.

So then,

so they are heading down.

They had to this place called Villa Tuscana.

which I guess maybe is an event space or whatever has all these nice gardens and everything.

And Daniel, the

self-help expert, is there and he's wearing a little crown.

And, you know, because it is, as one would expect, a Greek gods and goddesses anti-narcissism party.

And

like 10 of those.

Yeah, I just hit the streets the other day in anti-narcissism protest.

It was really great.

A lot of thousands of people turned up.

Oh, yeah.

Did you make a sign?

Yeah, I put everyone had flags and they put them all in Lisa's face or bucket.

We

everyone had, I went to that protest as well, anti-narcissism protest.

And yeah, we did, we then shoved all of our signs into like a, when we got rid of them, we just put them in a big box that said Lisa Hoxteen.

Huge.

Cut her face on the signs.

I think we made an impact.

I think so.

I think we're making changes.

When Jodi Foster got up on that stage and spoke her truth, I said yes.

Everyone here who has been affected by Lisa Hoxtein, raise your red flags.

I don't know.

I think my Jodi Foster and Sheena impression are the same.

I'm so glad because I didn't even know you had a Jodi Foster impersonation and you were just ready.

You were like, here it comes.

It is fun.

It is fun when you get put on the spot and have to do

a prominent actress impersonation.

A makeshift prominent, yeah.

Yeah, like a Holly Hunter, like a Holly Hunters.

Holly Hunters.

I am speaking out today against narcissism and pro-Greek culture.

We won't let these people destroy us.

Down with all the narcs.

It's incredible how these narcissists, they just try to take us down.

And I did a movie with John Goodman.

I did 1,800 movies with John Goodman.

And

he's an excellent narcissist.

Which makes sense.

That's why he got the role of King Ralph.

And I am Stretchy Girl in in that movie, Incredibles.

You might remember me from my feature film, Broadcast News,

which was where we were broadcasting news about narcissists.

That's where I really was turned on about it.

Yeah.

And also I was in that movie where I was in the desert, and I think Nicholas Cage was in it.

What was it called?

Again, it was a huge hit, huge hit.

I believe it was called Raging Arizona, but original title was Raising Narcissists.

Yeah, and now they're going to actually do a reboot called Raising Larsacists.

We're still waiting for the script.

It's been in development hell

because Larsa wrote it.

Yeah.

She's everyone's best friend, and she wrote it.

I wrote right, I like, wrote, like, a script, like.

I thought you guys would like to read it, like.

Larsa.

Larsa.

Larsa pitching a Hollywood movie that's a somehow a sequel about Raising Arizona.

I can see it.

I can too.

She's gonna get the platform.

She's gonna get the opportunities and she's gonna come in and she's gonna be like, so glad you're all here.

And they're gonna be huge, huge producers, and they're gonna be like, Why are we here?

Like, yeah, somehow she'll like get

like the

like Spielberg.

She'll get Spielberg in the room, she'll get Ron Howard.

Howard, yeah,

they're there.

They're all there.

A24 lining up.

It's like

Sick Park meets

Raising Arizona.

So, like, it's a couple and they steal a dinosaur.

Like,

and,

but it's, like, not their fault because, like, if you don't want the dinosaur stolen, like, why do you even have the dinosaur out there in the first place?

You know how Larsa's voice changes from, like, she does, like, she has like her Kardashian voice, but then when she gets mad, her real voice comes out.

Yeah.

That's my favorite part about her.

You're so right, she does.

She like morphs into the real Larsa.

Real Larsa comes out.

Yeah, it's scary.

Um, uh, I just saw Sinners, and um, that was a movie about vampires.

And, um, as many people know, because it's like a worldwide hit, and I'm just acting like people have never seen it.

But it's a movie about vampires, and that's like Larsa's voice is like she's sweet and seductive when she's asking to be let into the barn, but when you don't let her in, like, her real voice comes out.

Sorry, everybody, that was shocking.

Wait, you need to go back in and do like a trigger warning for that.

That was about pretty accurate.

When Larsa gets mad, she's like, Lisa, I don't think you understand.

Let me in.

Like,

so, um,

anyway, they're arriving here.

We've got Daniel, who is clearly

someone that they should turn to for advice on narcissism, because he's written like six koi expressions on a mirror.

And so I think that makes him very qualified to deal with these things, right?

Koy expressions.

Yes.

And he may have written his blurbs on TikTok.

We don't know.

Yeah.

We don't know.

But yeah, he's definitely qualified.

Yeah, he's written such gems as,

never try to defend yourself against a narcissist because they already know you're right.

Ooh, that's a good one.

That's like so right, like.

That's like so right, like.

Or maybe, like,

don't make a snack for a narcissist because they already were hungry and already ate.

Oh, my God.

That's true.

That's a good one.

That's a good one.

That's a good one.

That's very good.

That's a very good one.

Is that Gertie?

That was Gurdy.

That was Gurdy co-signing.

She was co-signing.

Yes.

She's so fast.

Boy, she went past those mirrors really quickly.

She can read as fast as she can talk.

She really burned through that anti-narcissism content.

She's like, okay, so nobody gets angry at the narcissist being accused of something they did.

That's absolutely true.

Oh, no one never tried to defend yourselves again to narcissists.

They already know what they're right.

That's true too.

Never give a banana to a narcissist because they might not need it.

That's true too.

I hate wasting a banana on a narcissist.

Okay, which is the next mirror, please?

Oh my gosh, I've never heard you first.

This is so funny.

Damn, you were killing me last week with your Terry Dubrow.

And now

the Terry Dubro thing, I was like, to me, that's like not, this is so like inside the actor studio.

I was like, but the Terry Dubrow thing was like, not even like an impersonation that I even thought was like a thing.

And you were dying.

And it was like tickling me so much because it's like, Terry DeBru, just talked.

I don't even remember what I did.

Good.

I can't.

it's so good i like i've never heard anyone do a terry de breaux and it's like perfect then okay i'm sorry but anyway

i love the skill set for me yeah like what makes you qualified ben mantleker for this job i can do a good terry de bro impersonation we're gonna pitch a movie

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She will be appearing on the reboot of Hotten Cleveland.

Okay.

Back to V Land.

So, yeah, they walk into this garden and there's mirrors everywhere and they all have sort of like meme kind of anti-narcissism quotes on them, like sayings or phrases, things that make you

things that you would remember.

What were those cards that people would send to each, those virtual cards that people would send to each other that were like very sassy?

It was like, it was always like a, it was an image of like a lady in the 50s.

And it was always something like, my friend said, where's the wine?

And I said, well, I just had lunch.

Like, that's what the old card would say.

Talking about now.

Yeah.

That like older lady who like, she always has a bunch of bags maybe or something.

She's like,

so I went to the store and got a lot of stuff.

So what?

You know, it's just like those.

Yeah, you're right.

Snarky.

And like, we're like, as women, we're coming into our own of like F you, you know?

Yeah.

It's like the source of all of Marisol's humor, by the way.

Also, you are so right.

I truly cannot get enough.

Quite frankly, not enough.

When Marisol sits down for her inside the actress studio, they're like, Marisol, where did you develop your sense of humor?

Oh, honey, it was e-cards all the way.

Right.

Oh, my mother used to send me e-cards when she didn't want to talk to me.

So

they're funny.

I mean,

you know, between going for e-cards and trying to get some D, I really learned how to get some comic skills.

Sometimes I used to just open up the paper and just read Cathy cartoons.

Chocolate.

Chocolate, chocolate, chocolate.

Am I right?

Ag.

Arg.

Steve.

Oh, man.

I would love a Cathay reboot that was just Marisol.

Oh, it was ACK.

It's ACK, not ARG.

That's what it is.

But Marisol would say ARG.

Yes.

Marisol would say ARG.

I was too in character.

That's what it was.

You were a little bit,

you went there.

You went deep.

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So, yeah, they're reading all they're walking around.

They're looking at all these mirrors.

And

like, what did you notice was like the Johnny Depp, like, written in blood one from the Amber Heard trials.

He was like,

we're done.

Oh, that's a good one, Johnny Depp.

No, but do you remember that from the trial?

How like you wrote in blood?

Yeah, he's

a

anyway.

He made it into the Miami recap.

Okay, sorry.

I would love it.

No,

not only did he make it.

You don't have to apologize.

We've already brought Jodie Foster and Holly Hunter into this mix.

Bring in all the A-lists.

Yes.

Welcome.

So they all are, no one really is very impressed with these mirrors.

They're like, oh, okay, interesting.

That's that's cool.

All right.

By the way, Adriana is eyeing the

self-help guy.

I've already forgotten his name.

What was his name?

I wasn't Daniel.

George, Daniel.

Because he's hot.

So she's like, oh, I mean, the guy's hot.

I mean,

if I wasn't with Frenchie, I'd sure be going for Australian tonight.

I mean, you're going to find me down under.

I mean, I'd like to play that didgiridoo.

I'll

put that Joey in my sack.

You know, good day, mate.

Put that shrimp on my Barbie.

That's not a knife.

This is a knife.

I'll eat your dingo, baby.

I don't know what that was, but okay.

That would actually be very helpful because that dingo did a lot of damage.

So, you know, it's good that someone would eat the dingo in turn.

And then the dingo would learn.

Revenge.

Other dingos.

Uh-huh.

Take note.

Take note, dingoes.

Read those mirrors, dingos.

The original narcissist.

Dingo.

Dingos.

Dingoes, so narcissistic.

Narcissistic, there.

Yeah.

So, um, Alexia's saying that they, like, this party is not about Todd.

Sorry, buddy.

Yes.

Todd.

Remember that episode where she didn't know how to say Todd's name?

She's like, Tod.

Tod.

Tod.

Tod.

It's like, babe, it's called Todd.

It's Todd.

Just say Todd.

She's like,

so, but she says this is actually to expose the narcissism.

It's really for the other women because they're all a bunch of narcissists, which is

very true, actually.

It's like really right on the money.

Yes.

Group.

100%.

So

then Daniel, he starts reading a quote.

He's like, all right, everyone who wants to, he wants to hear a quote about narcissism.

He goes like this.

He goes like this.

I like to tee up my narcissism quotes because you guys are all narcissists and probably aren't listening to me.

A little something like this.

Hit it.

I'll give you a beat.

All right, thanks.

Good people get tired of being good to ungrateful people.

You've been cured.

Drop the beat.

Drop the narcissism.

Daniel.

Yeah.

He's so wise.

He's so wise.

Good people get tired of being good to ungrateful people.

Wow.

I mean, if this person understands the root of narcissism, like.

If he doesn't, then I don't know who would because this right here.

He's a mastery of a concept.

It truly is.

The words are blending together.

I don't even know what it means anymore because they're all so generic.

But I'm like, he could say anything to any of these ladies, and they'd be like, Yeah, that's true.

He's like,

Oh, narcissism is somebody who likes to give to charities and is selfless in everything they do.

Wow, that's so true.

That's so true.

Gotcha.

Gotcha.

Wow, that was like really wise.

Like,

so

then,

um, then they go.

Now it's another mirror that says, The problem with being empathetic is that you feel sorry for the people that hurt you.

And Gertie's like, oh my God, that is so true.

Okay.

I mean,

I absolutely feel that way.

And the fact that this is a narcissist-themed party says a lot because, obviously, I can't.

It's because I think that's like, we have a lot amongst us.

We have a lot of narcissists.

Okay.

And then it cuts to Lisa.

And she was the only one looking at these mirrors to look at herself.

And everyone else is reading the quotes off of them.

And she's like checking out her hair in the mirror.

And I was like,

oh my God, I love this show.

It's too good.

Like you can't even write something this great.

She genuinely was like, I thought I saw her with some Windex like wiping off the saying so she could actually see herself better, you know?

Just a chamois.

I don't think she even realized there were words there.

She just didn't see anything.

She just was looking at her reflection.

Right.

She's like, Mulan.

Mulan, yes.

I love.

Yeah.

Isn't that that?

Isn't there a song?

Isn't that a Christina Aguilera song?

Like, what does my reflection say about me?

Or something like that.

Yeah.

Yes.

I know what you're saying.

I'm picking up what you're laying down.

Thank you.

It goes something like this.

It goes,

you look in the pond and you see yourself in the colors of the wind.

Wait, we're mixing up Disney movies.

It's

Holly Hunter doing

Pocahontas.

Have you ever seen the wolf cry to the blue corn moon?

Because I have.

I live in Montana now.

I don't know if she does, but I feel like she probably does.

100%.

Hollyhunter definitely lives in Hollywood in Wyoming.

She's one of those, one of those, one of those celebrities.

It's like, yeah, I live in Jackson Hole now.

Yeah.

I just fly in when I got to do something for Hollywood and just you know

you know every Thursday I have a coffee with Frances McDorman down by the general store because we're normal people and then we fly to Hollywood to do Hollywood things but we come back we're normal people and we say we say things like this hi Jan to the people who are walking by because we're just one of the folks

That's what we do.

We just, you know, go out on our land because we have a lot of land there and we just like live off the land.

Sometimes we just set up a bonfire and just have some schmores.

Yes, read poetry,

sing songs by Stephen Schwartz for Pocahontas, one of our favorites.

Favorites.

And

when we get our call to come in to Hollywood, we just drop all that.

And the next thing I know, I'm in glam and I'm Holly Hunter, the

actress, the one that didn't say anything for

what I got an Oscar for in that movie.

I didn't say one word to the piano.

It's a piano.

Fun fact: I hate piano.

Band for my ranch.

Guitars only.

And maybe an occasional mandolin.

Just like Bruce Hornsby and the Range would sing Mandolin Rain.

Great song.

Great man.

John Goodman loves that one.

I once made love to Bruce Hornsby

in the back of a margaritaville.

When I was shooting

a shizzle wheel for her, my upcoming reality show called That's Holly.

It was a shizzle reel, and it was, it's working its way around Hollywood.

That shizzle reel.

And turns out everyone thought it was Holly Madison.

And so they gave it a go.

And then they saw it was me when I flew in from Montana.

And they know, hard no.

They replaced me with a younger actress named Tate Addison McRae or something like that.

I'm not sure.

Wow.

Holly has a lot to say.

A lot.

Shut up.

Shut up already.

Jesus.

Narcissist.

So, yeah, Lisa's looking at herself in the mirror, completely missing all the stuff.

And then she's also

like...

She's found a flower swing and she's now just having a photo shoot.

Like Marisol's just taking photos of her while everyone is like reading stuff about narcissism.

Lisa's on there like with a finger in her mouth, smiling and being sexy and like with the flowers.

And she's like fully turning it into a

promotional shoot for her Instagram.

Yeah.

And also taking a page out of Lisa Vanderpump's book, you know, like, oh, watch where you're stepping because you might get an LVP cease and desist.

Yeah, exactly.

You know, please don't bring down Lisa's flower swing brand because she worked very hard for that.

Extremely.

Andy,

I was recently scrolling on Instagram and I saw Lisa, another Lisa, on a flowered swing.

Oh, God.

Andy, you're supposed to fill in the gap when I go to the...

You say something now.

That's when you're supposed to apologize.

That's my ellipses.

So

another mirror says, you don't always have to tell your side of the story.

Time will.

And Stephanie's like, oh, that's so me.

That is 100% me, says the woman who has spent the past two episodes telling her side of the story

every single thing extensively.

She's like, you want to hear a story about how my parents met?

This is my version of it.

Like everything is like that with her.

You're so right.

It's like, is this a date line?

Why is, why do we keep going back to you?

And why do you have to keep like telling your side?

You're so right.

Everything is like that so um but stephanie and lisa have like a little bit of like this is where they kind of like make nice and everything and stephanie's being like all nice to her and lisa's like you know like wow you you really went in on me on the bus like you know now you don't want to talk like what's going on here she's like oh god like i'm sorry i just like i apologize and like i have no power i have no problem apologizing again i know i just it was nice you know it's like a weird

like nothing was really

like they they bury the hatchets but like i think they just don't want to have tension between them yeah that's right i think so i mean i think that stephanie knows that she is new so she does need to keep up appearance in terms of like being nice to all of the the ogs and lisa i've actually found that lisa hoxteen is pretty forgiving to people

A lot, you know, I mean, like, obviously not with the Larsa and Lisa thing.

It has, you know, aren't, it's like an octopus, you know, it just keeps growing and more legs, more legs.

But I do feel like Lisa, if you come to Lisa with somewhat of an apology, even though it was totally Lisa's fault, because she was like two hours late, right?

But I do think that she does say, like, okay, let's move on.

Cause I don't think that she really truly wants that more,

that many more issues with other people.

Yeah.

She also like clearly has devastatingly low self-esteem.

And so like, I think that she like, she's like happy to apologize that way, she can like

be in good.

Like, I don't think she likes when people don't like her, right?

I agree.

I, so, I think she's like happy to like, to, you know, she'll stand up for herself in her own little way, but um, it's you know, she's usually going to cave at some point.

Uh, but notably, I don't, did she actually apologize for being so late, or did she do that last episode?

Because I don't think I see her apologizing

at all.

I just heard her accept the apology from from Stephanie.

Accepted the apology.

But that being said, Lisa tells us, like, I definitely do not want to be late with Stephanie again because I don't want to hear that ever again.

It's like, well, so it kind of worked.

Oh, yeah, good point.

That's right.

She said that in her confessional.

So we'll see.

Time will

be it.

Yeah, exactly.

So

I think, so they all are sitting on a bench now.

I guess, are they going to their benches now?

Or they're just at like, sorry, this is a pre-bench before they get to the main bench area, right?

Because there's a main bench area where Alexia has like a, has like a throne, I believe.

Oh, yeah, that's right.

It had

wings.

It had like, it was like an Egyptian tomb.

It had an underground water system.

Like it had everything.

It felt like.

It felt like it was maybe a clue on like the latest like national treasure, you know, revamp.

It's like Nicholas Cage was gonna have to like go examine that throne to find out where the the next part of the scavenger hunt is totally

there's a throne in miami

so um

excuse me i have a flagrant burp that i was trying to suppress so i burped it flagrant

so flagrant burp flagrant flagrant that's like flagrant nurses and burp so

no so so some of the women are sitting on a bench together and larsa is saying how she's been trying to communicate with Lisa and everything.

They have to have a conversation.

And

so Julia's like, yes, I mean, like Gurdy and I, we took time and we had dinner and we talked like two people who are like mature.

And Gurdy just starts talking completely over.

Why don't you be Julia and I will be Gertie and we'll express how this conversation went.

Noted.

Okay.

You start.

You start as Julia.

Like Gertie and I, we took time and we had dinner and we talked.

We had a dinner.

We had a beautiful dinner.

Yes, we had a dinner.

I mean, I would have liked that dinner to happen sooner, but that's okay.

You know, you had a process.

It was your process.

It wasn't my process.

I like to, you know, nip things in the bud, but it was you.

It was how you decided that you wanted to do it.

And that's fine.

And you don't have to,

you know, you can take a long time.

I mean, you hurt me in the process, but it's okay.

You know, and you know, I don't know if you even knew what you were apologizing for, but I knew what I got what I needed, and I knew we could move forward.

So the most important part is that, you know, you listened to me and she listened to me, and that was what was good.

My feelings,

yes,

yeah, it's like a symphony, really, truly, you know, it's two-part harmony, yeah.

It's like I'm the wind instruments, and and you're percussion, and and and and woods.

And

I was

some woodwinds, I was

there was there was some bassoon happening.

oh definitely bassoon yeah for sure yeah there was some bassoon yeah uh gurdy just talks completely over julia um now julia is still the villain don't get me wrong but julia's julia's trying to be like you know like you guys have to have a conversation like the two of us just had a conversation and and you know that was really good and gurdy is basically like yeah we had a conversation i mean it took her forever to get to it like you know

even though she was the one who started it like took forever but whatever we talked about it everything's good now and julia's getting so annoyed that like Gertie's talking right over her.

Honestly, I, I love Gertie so much, but my God, I could not handle it.

I was appreciated the editors leaving in the over talk

because I just felt it so hard.

And it really, she just, she surpasses, I think, most housewives in terms of the over talking.

I mean, it is so impressive, but she also over talks when she's just stating things and not not yelling, you know, whereas most housewives just like over talk because they're yelling.

But she has the most, her perseverance and ability to push through the over talking is on, I've never seen the likes of it.

It's, it's impressive.

She just jumps right in and just goes and like doesn't stop.

It's like when she starts talking, I don't think she even hears other people.

I think that's the thing.

I think that's the thing with like real flagrant over talkers like that.

They don't even realize another person is talking because they are so tunnel vision on what they have to say.

And she was going.

She was going.

And like Julia is sitting there with this look on her face like,

I'm trying to say something nice right now.

I know.

She couldn't.

I actually think it's a characteristic.

of ADHD, although we'll have to ask Adriana because she's already looking at the DMS5, which is nice.

But I do think that

is something that can be

uh you know a symptom of that condition is when you talk over people adhd

um because i was talking with my therapist talking over my therapist sorry and uh she said you have adhd okay adhd is good

no

i don't want to do this anymore adhd adh

she put all the red flags in my bucket during our virtual therapy session and i was like wait a minute what are all these seem healthy Yeah.

Not seem like a healthy practice.

In the chat is just like a bunch of red flags and buckets in my chat on Zoom with her.

No, um, I did take like one of those tests, you know, like an ADHD kind of test type of thing.

And there, I actually didn't qualify as somebody who has ADHD

entirely.

I think I have very small, very few traits of that, but

the biggest traits are like the over-talking somebody.

I mean, that is a huge one, big.

Wow.

Uh, is that that's that cuts across like genders and everything?

Um,

yeah, wow, that's very interesting.

Well, I'll have to look into that.

I mean, I'm no therapist.

Talk over.

I'm like, do I have ADHD?

No, no, no, you don't.

I do.

I don't.

I mean, if I did, it's fine.

It's fine.

There's nothing wrong with it.

We're both like, um, we stop talking.

We're like, we're like very, very concerned about talking over each other.

And now, Amy, it is your turn to speak in a Holly Hunter voice.

I'm sorry.

You go ahead.

No, sorry.

Obviously, this podcasting aside in a regular conversation with someone, you know, do you let them talk?

Are you talking over people all the time?

No, of course not.

Yeah.

I mean, given that there's, there's always going to be a little bit of overlap here and there with everyone, like, et cetera.

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Now it's time for them to play some Greek games.

So they go to the other couch area.

And this is where we see Adriana's throne, which makes no sense why she has this giant, giant throne.

And it is noted by people, like, for instance, Adriana, that, like, isn't it funny that a party about narcissism, we have Alexia the host in a giant throne for no good reason.

Like, no good reason.

Right.

Like, why is it like this?

So they're going to play one of these games, a fun game that is purportedly to help them address narcissism.

Although we don't really see what the game plan is on the therapeutic front, right?

It's just like, let's pile on to people.

Unbelievably

reckless and

no structure and no healing and

no direction

and

no actual resolution.

No beginning, no middle, no end.

Just like air your dirty laundry.

Right.

So everyone, Daniel hands out like a red flag to everyone and

he's going to read a statement, and then they're going to put a red flag in the vase of the person that they feel like it applies to the most.

Which I was like, first of all, you had to get a lot of vases.

This is a big ass.

That's an impressive haul, all those vases.

Especially from Australia, like a long way, you know.

He

brought them from home.

So this is my vase suitcase.

I put all my vases in here for the narcissist.

This one's from Sydney.

Sydney's also the name of my ex-boyfriend who is quite the narcissist

here i i always check my mirror bag because i can rip that in bubble rap but the vase bag i always carry that on

so um

okay the first question is or first statement is the person who is constantly talking about themselves.

So Marisol,

I think Marisol starts it because she goes, oh, that's easy.

And then she stands up and she walks so slowly over to the vases.

It was kind of like amazing suspense.

It was like, how is she going to start this off?

And she's like, sorry, monkey.

And then she drops the flag in Lisa's vase.

And it's like, oh, I thought there was Tito's in this vase.

Oh, okay.

Are there cockies in these vases?

Cockies.

That's, well, I'll tell you you something.

I also would talk about myself a lot if I were

surrounded by such boring bitches.

Got that one from an e-card, too.

So it took me a moment to remember how it went.

Steve had to remind me this morning because I told him I would say that joke.

I would talk more if I could not be a friend of.

So

basically everyone

puts their flags in Lisa's vase.

It's like, oh, great.

Thanks.

Thanks a lot, everyone.

Marison goes, monkey by a landslide.

She keeps it light.

Just like laughing at Lisa's pain.

So Daniel's like, all right, ladies, Lisa had an overwhelming number of six.

Monkey for the win.

Monkey for the win.

All right.

I want to know how you feel about that, Lisa.

The therapy is about to begin right now.

And she's like, well,

maybe I tell my problem to the wrong people.

I don't know.

Maybe that's my thing.

Maybe I shouldn't be talking about myself to these girls.

I don't know.

I do love Lisan Defense.

She does keep it pretty tight.

Like her comebacks aren't that bad.

When she's cornered up, when she's like ganged up on in this situation, she does kind of fight for herself.

I am pretty impressed.

She keeps it nice.

She keeps it nice.

She's much better than

nice.

She's much better than Larsa because when Larsa has to do a comeback, she just usually goes for the most basic words and nouns that she can find and strings them together.

And that works in its own weird way.

It's like, if you're like, Larsa, why are you such a dumb bitch?

Why are you such a can of beans?

And you're like, what?

You're a stupid can of beans.

You can't even open the can with a can opener.

That's because it's a defective can.

It's one of those cans that you get at like the dollar store or grocery outlet because it's dented and you can't even open your own can so can it what yeah

so can it

that was a nice twist at the end can it

um so larsa's like well you're annoying people talking about yourself like you feel like your problems are the biggest ones in the room like

Lisa's like, well, I also feel like you blame me for not knowing your problems, but you also don't tell me your problems.

That was actually shocking.

I was like, she doesn't?

I feel like Larsa is always advertising her issues, isn't she?

I don't know.

But then when she was like, well, you don't answer your phone.

I'm like, oh,

that's actually a good point because Lisa doesn't.

Maybe she doesn't.

That is so rich.

That is so rich that Lisa is like, well, I, well, you know, you're blaming me for it.

Like, you don't, you never talk about your problems.

Well, you don't answer the phone when I call you to talk about the problems.

Well, I mean, I can't be expected to answer the phone.

Right, right.

I'm too busy being two hours late to things.

I got to hang out with Jodi.

I also

like

Lisa goes, I also think you should tell the truth and stop saying lies.

And Larsa goes, So you're the lie detector test?

Doesn't even make sense.

Doesn't.

I was like, Did you see the Orange County trailer or something?

Why that?

Lisa Vanderpump in a blazer getting a polygraph done.

That's right.

And that too.

So Lisa goes, she's like, I have the receipts.

Marcia goes, baby girl, I am the receipts.

Okay, I kind of loved that.

I loved it too, but it truly made no sense.

But

I love

the spirit with

how she said it.

Yeah, she puts a little twist on it, a little sass on it.

And this is when her real voice was starting to come out.

So she's going from like, baby girl, I am the receipts.

Baby girl, I am the receipt.

And you're like, oh, okay.

Right.

She really did get, she started to put a little salt on it, you know?

And then Lisa, Lisa's response to baby girl, I am the receipt is, is that your Halloween costume this year?

So we're getting some dwindling returns on our comebacks now.

Right.

Because then Larsa has another one too.

Try.

Go ahead and try to get a dress in your size.

That's much more classic, Larsa.

Get a dress in your size, can of beans.

I didn't hear that.

Can you repeat that?

Can you repeat that?

Can you repeat that?

Ignore.

Ignore.

Ignoring.

Ignoring.

Ignore.

Oh, yeah, you can ignore.

Ignore.

Oh, yeah.

Ignore.

Guess what?

I don't get receipts because I like the environment.

So you are actually killing whales, Larsa.

Digital receipts sent to my email, not printed.

Well,

email, I don't have an email because I have Jodi and you don't have anyone.

Oh, yeah.

Well, yeah, you got an inbox that just won't stop, right?

My

well, at least my box is in.

Your box is out.

I never said that.

I never said that.

Lighties.

Where it goes, ladies.

I never said your box was in.

Your box isn't in.

My box is in.

It would go that place.

Yeah.

Who is the person who is quickest to take offense?

It's a little spread out.

This time, I think everyone kind of like votes for each other, right?

Um, uh, and Stephanie, Stephanie picked Lisa, which, um, you know, because they just had a fight, etc.

And Daniel is like, all right, everyone, the one that was quick to take offense was Lisa.

She got the most with three.

Lisa, are you offended by this?

Because if you are, it's what proves the point.

She's like, oh,

this is like a whack game with some whack people.

So, yeah, quickest to take offense.

Whack.

Whack.

That's a whack game.

Actually, it is a whack game.

I'm not going to lie.

She's right on that one.

It is terrible.

It's terrible.

She's right.

I can't believe she stayed there as long as she did.

I know.

I'm shocked.

So Lisa's, Lisa has a little monologue where she's like, no, everybody, by the way, has narcissistic traits.

For God's sake, Larsa has a Larsa light.

Okay.

And we see Larsa at Fashion Week, like taking selfies

with that, like giant Kleague light that she has attached to her phone.

Excellent edit.

Excellent.

Yeah.

So then we have

who takes the, who is,

who has the lack of accountability, who has a lack of accountability.

And,

you know, it's just more pylon for Lisa, et cetera.

But Adriana keeps on picking Marisol for these, which is fun.

It's like an attack, like the friend up to each other.

Right.

And I'm like, wow, I forgot they even had something because they're so not engaging at all on this series so far.

It's just so, I was like, oh, right.

They do not like each other.

Yeah.

Adriana hasn't gotten in trouble yet this season, which is shocking.

Normally she's in the thick of it by now.

She's in the background.

Wow.

Just, you know, flirting and talking sexy talk with every second she gets.

Yeah, well, she's in love, I guess, with Frenchie.

It's taken away a lot of her energy, you know.

It can happen.

Just be careful.

All right, everyone.

Just understand that this is an exercise for everybody to grow and evolve, even though we haven't used any of these questions to try to find growth or evolution.

Okay?

It's not about attacking each other.

Excuse me, please.

Can I

ask you a question?

Yes, yes, yes, you may.

If somebody tells you,

she just starts an RO.

That was a little bit more on tune than she can do.

I just want to say it's a beautiful note.

Right.

All right.

It's a beautiful note.

Okay.

Thank you.

I mean, I'm starting to talk like you.

Anyway,

I lost my Julia.

Okay, here it is.

Now,

what is your recommendation on how to move forward with someone who you invite on cruise ship that takes this med at Captain Sandy?

Well, did this person apologize, and are they in this garden with us right now?

Uh, yes, pass kind of, and uh, I'm looking at her right now.

Uh, are you looking at a statue right now, or one of your castmates?

I can't tell with your eyes right now.

I'm having a hard time.

It's over there.

If you follow my eyes, you can see

past Alexia's golden

chair.

Listen, my little golden tiara is a little bit heavy, it's just sort of blinding me.

Can you just tell me who you're looking at right now?

Hannah, okay, I will sing it for you, okay?

Okay, that's acceptable.

Getty, oh, all right, so Gertie hurts you.

Can you tell me how good he hurts you?

Getty hurt you.

You can sing it if you care.

If you care to, you can sing it, it and

I'll be able to heal you of your narcissistic attack.

Yes, okay.

My accent is really hard to do.

No, that's important to my accent.

Would you like me to adopt a Russian accent so you feel more comfortable discussing your issues?

Right?

Yes, yes.

So,

tell me about Gerdy.

Oh, but did she hurt you?

Yes, she

okay, I would like to say that I just want to say that, like, sorry, um, this is after I was physically assaulted, and there's been like a lot of disc to discuss, so I apologize, but I'm sorry, we're

thank you very much, Daniel.

But uh, there's there's a there's a bit much discussion.

I mean, have you ever heard of a Captain Sandy?

I didn't think so.

Okay, that's the problem right there.

Okay, until you can watch your Blow Deck Mediterranean, I don't want to hear you weighing in on our discussion yet.

Thank you so much.

All right, so we heard from Hurdy Gertie and says she feels a certain way.

And now, Julia, could you sing it, Julia?

What is your reprise?

Sorry, that is me doing warm-up.

Let me, let me,

this is how I feel.

Gertie

is the worst.

I'm hearing pain in your aria.

Lots of pain.

Lots and lots of pain.

I'm also hearing

Martina.

I'm hearing she's having a hard time too.

Yeah?

Yes, because she found out that so many people are using surrogates and it is very offensive to her.

All right, well, that's just wrong.

I'm going to write it on the mirror over here.

Surrogates is coin in Australia, and so it should be fine with Martina.

Martina also said she always hated Australian open, so I guess that all makes sense now.

Ouch, ouch, that hurts.

That hurts.

Yes, it does hurt.

Can I tell you I also have another problem with someone?

Can I tell you about my problem?

Yeah, my problem.

It's with goat.

God poop all goat.

My goat poop all over my kitchen.

Is my goat a narcissist?

Your God?

The god you pray to?

God,

God.

Little God with diaper.

Little God with diaper.

Little god, little goat, I worry god is narcissists.

Oh, okay.

I'm concerned.

How do I save goats?

Yeah, in Australia, we have dingoes and diapers.

And yeah, they do.

They poop in the kitchen.

Yeah.

yeah so what you gotta do is you gotta you gotta write in goat poop on mirrors so they can see what they did wrong

oh thank you so much i think this will help

what is happening can we go can we can we move to the other account bench now there's one more question okay here we go statement number four who plays the victim who in this group likes to play the victim And remember, if you get the most votes, you're not allowed to be the victim of this pileup

because it's a trick.

Oh my God.

We're not going to move forward.

This is getting worse and worse.

I mean, there's only one can of beans in this group that I'm going to vote for.

The dented one, if you know what I'm talking about, receipt coming through.

Receipt.

All right, guys.

It's uh, Lisa.

Lisa, do you have anything to say about that?

Well,

you know,

I'm really upset about this.

Okay, can I just say something?

Can I say something?

Larsa, you're mad about a photo my boyfriend took with your ex four months ago.

That's what this is about.

I'm not mad at that.

We were playing a game.

A game.

It was duck, duck.

It's not a game.

You're the narcissist, Larsa.

See what I did, everyone?

I turned it.

She's the Larsa, the narcissist now.

Okay.

Lisa, that's not cool.

You guys have to move forward.

You guys have to move forward.

I'm sorry.

You guys have to move forward.

It's very important that you guys move forward.

I don't want to hear anything more.

You guys have to move forward.

Please apologize already.

Anything

I'm praying for.

Please say that you never texted anything.

Okay.

Please.

You need to say that your boyfriend shouldn't yell at women.

That's what I'm trying to tell you.

I'm not used to men yelling at me.

You have to say that you're not used to men yelling at you.

He's so cheap.

And you had, and just say that, just remind people that Jodi is very, very cheap.

Go ahead.

Tell me.

I'm, you know what?

I'm not lucky.

Okay.

I'm just not lucky.

Okay, Lisa.

He's just repeating every

she's not lucky.

Okay, everyone, I want everyone to know she's just not lucky.

Okay, Daniel, are you watching this?

Daniel, Daniel, she's not lucky.

She's not a lucky person.

You know, when Britney Spears was singing, it wasn't about her.

She's not lucky.

Is getting very dark?

Is dark?

He's dark.

So

anyway, Larsa and Lisa are in a full-fledged fight, and Daniel cannot, he's trying to control it.

He's like, negativity is in the ants' ladies.

And they just, it's like, Daniel,

you're an accessory here.

You, you've done your work, which is you got them to fight.

You just have to sit back.

And he does.

He then just starts to smile.

And he's like, you know what?

This is pretty cool.

Yeah, he embraces it.

He's like, I'm out of control.

I need to let go of control and just let the housewives do what they do.

yeah, exactly.

Um, so

so,

uh, Larsa

is saying, um,

well, actually,

sorry, there's, there's, the fight is still, so the fight is

really rampaging on, and um,

Lisa says

something about Larsa's boobs.

What is it?

She says,

this was so weird.

So, um, Lisa starts to kind of threaten Larsa about the things that she could say about her.

And so

Larsa's like, say it.

Go ahead and say it, honey.

Honey,

girl, girl, honey.

Okay, girl, honey, baby.

Say it.

And she's like, say it.

You told me that Marcus doesn't have it like that.

You don't want your tits to be down to your knees before you guys get married.

Okay, yeah.

Did I really say that?

Yeah, you did.

No, I didn't.

I didn't.

I didn't.

And then, and then Stephanie and Julia are completely confused about what context this is in.

And we have no idea as fans.

It makes zero sense.

I don't know what she's talking about.

Is she talking about plastic surgery?

Is she talking about how Marcus doesn't want to be with her and she needs to keep herself high and tight?

And that's Lars is just like,

um, my shit.

I don't know what she says.

My shit is tight.

My, I'm, I'm up and tight.

Tight and right.

Right and tight is how I I do.

I'm tight.

Everything's tight.

Maybe Lisa should stop worrying about my boobs and start worrying about how everyone in the group thinks she's a narcissist.

Which is a fair point.

It's a good point, man.

Even Daniel's like, oh, you agree?

It's actually a good point.

It's an evergreen kind of statement.

Maybe you should stop thinking about my boobs and about how everyone thinks you're a narcissist, you know?

Yeah.

So

Lars is like, you know what I told you?

Because now her voice is, you know what I told you?

I said, I don't need a man.

You know, I don't know what I told you.

I'm independent.

Okay.

You know what I told you?

I'm teaching my kids to be independent.

You know what I told you?

I don't know what you're doing.

You know what I told you?

I know what I'm doing.

And you know what I told you?

I'm done.

And that's what I told you.

And then her voice comes back.

It comes back down.

And she will never leave a scene.

She will get, she'll go full force.

She'll hit her crescendo.

She'll come back down.

She's not leaving that pit, that symphony pit.

She's not going to leave a scene ever.

And good for her.

Miss kids say she stands on business.

She stands on business.

Yeah.

Stephanie actually stands on business because she loves business.

So Lisa.

Lisa's like, I know what you're doing.

You can throw it, but you can't take it.

Oh, yeah.

Count the flags.

I'm good.

I'm good.

I'm good.

Count the flags.

Count the flags.

Larsa deserves some more flags.

I feel like everyone should have been able to give out two flags.

Absolutely.

And that montage was a perfect reminder of why Larsa should have received more flags.

The things that she's done in the past were great, you know, for the show and deserves awards such as red flags.

Yes.

So Daniel has a new update.

By an overwhelming score of 50,000 flags to zero, Lisa has won category five.

so uh so who here picks lisa alexia did you pick leo flag for lisa alexia would you explain why you chose lisa please

you do alexia because i like your alexia

okay well thank you so much thank you for saying that you like my alexia because like i can relate to lisa you know because i'm also going to a very difficult time in my life uh but i choose not to play the victim Okay.

So

I just want to say,

I don't play the victim.

What I do do is I go out to dinner with a whole bunch of gay men and then I cry and scream in the restaurant and say, I want all the narcissists to die.

But I don't play the victim.

So when you invited Lisa here today, did you want her not

be a victim?

Because you feel like she's being a victim in her divorce and you're not being a victim in yours?

That is absolutely correct.

I am absolutely not being a victim.

And that's the reason why I had this party, so that way you could understand the narcissism that I've had to deal with, but told.

And it's been a very difficult time for me during this divorce.

And now you understand what it's like to stand in the shoes of a star who's dealt with narcissism.

But yes, I'm absolutely not the victim at all.

Not at all.

I agree.

I co-sign.

Good point, Alexa.

Alexia.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Star.

This star says thank you to you.

Thank you so much.

Star.

And then Lisa, Alexia's chair.

Thanks, everybody.

And then Lisa cries.

And then she leaves as she, well she says that adriana is her safe space and and starts to cry because adriana's like you guys

don't you realize like this is a pileup like this is the only like do you guys not realize she lost her dad seven days ago and i was like well that is a fair point it is

it is they're so they are savages on this show truly i'm surprised larsa wasn't like then what are you doing here why are you at this retreat why are you here reading mirrors when your dad just died?

Why?

Yeah, you should be in Toronto crying.

Yeah, you should be in Jodi's eyes, crying in his eyes, his two big eyes.

You should be doing something sad.

Why are you here?

Do something sad.

She's like, Larsa, you know there's nothing to do that's sad in Miami.

That's why we live here.

There's nothing sad in Miami.

Everything is fun and wonderful here.

And she's like, I was like literally playing the game.

And I was not the only one that felt like that.

Like, okay, because we all felt the same thing.

Like, and he was like, well, when we actually tell the truth and how we feel, we get punished.

How is this a fair?

It is like getting pooped on by goat in kitchen.

And then

cut to the montage of Larsa.

Lisa's like, I'm sorry, Larsa has done fucked up shit to all of you guys.

And here's the montage to prove it.

An extended montage of Lisa being heinous.

I mean, Larsa is really heinous.

She really, she really tops the charts with that one, you know.

But that's why it really has to sting when everyone puts your flag in your vase when Larsa is there.

Like anytime that Larsa is not getting a flag and you get one, you just know you've really, you should know you've messed up at that point.

Yeah,

that's, that should be your own little wake-up call.

Yeah,

so Lisa goes, she goes inside because it's also like a thunderstorm is happening now, so they're all going inside to a brightly lit room.

And so, Lisa goes to cry.

Uh, she's like, you know, it's her standard thing, she goes into a restroom, she cries.

This won't be the last time it happens this episode,

and um, you know, Marisa's like, Well, she got the flag at every single game.

I mean, she's a big winner, winner, winner, monkey dinner.

Am I right?

Oh, God, I need a khaki,

khaki.

But yeah, Lisa's like, I fucking hate these people.

Like, I don't want to, I don't want to be, I just don't even really enjoy hanging out with this group.

I just don't want to be, I don't want to be with these people.

I will continue to film with them as long as they keep paying me, though.

Absolutely.

Yes.

Right.

I thought that was one of the most honest statements I ever heard when she was like, I actually don't even like hanging out with this group.

I was like, thank you for saying that.

So we all could hear it.

I hear you.

And so, but good on you for sticking with it.

So, Daniel, after the Larsa montage, Daniel is like, all right, everyone, I just want to say thank you for participating tonight.

I think the exercises will be positive in the end.

Yes, they were, you did a great job, Daniel.

You know, your

years of being a self-help expert really shone through in this moment where you really helped no one at all.

Did he lose followers?

Is that the question?

That's, I want to ask.

He I'm sure he gained followers because he's like a hot guy and he's on TV and that's really well all out.

And editing.

I guarantee, I haven't, I've actually not looked up his Instagram, but I'm sure he's one of those people that posts like a shirtless photo of himself.

And then he has like a thirst trap.

And then the caption is something like.

Don't give in to narcissism because it will destroy you from the inside out.

And it's like, you can't make fun of him for having a thirst trap because he put something serious about narcissism in in the caption.

Yeah, you're absolutely right.

He 100%

has some glamour shots of him in that flowered swing, I would imagine.

And he's like, you know, and shirtless and just in, just looking fantastic and just being like, swing through life,

swing back at your narcissists.

If you wait, let me workshop this.

You can get there.

Okay.

You can get there.

So it's if you don't jump off the swing of a narcissistic relationship, you'll always be going back and forth.

It may look like it's flowers, but it's not.

That's too long.

I

don't know.

So I found his Instagram.

He has 823,000 followers,

which is crazy.

Gosh.

Yeah.

He has a book called Stop Letting Everything Affect You.

It said like that.

I want you to read the the audiobook, please.

Stop letting everyone, everything affect you.

What is wrong with you?

You just can't do this.

He actually shockingly does.

So he doesn't, he does not have any shirtless photos.

He has a lot of photos where he looks like he's being interviewed by Diane Sawyer and he's like a checkerboard.

So it's like him and then saying, and then him, then saying.

So he has things like, the longer you go without something, the more comfortable you are without it.

That goes for people too.

I'm trying to maintain the

tone.

Stay away from people who expect you to prioritize them, but don't think twice about putting you last.

Dear Ben Mandelke,

I heard your podcast

and you're giving my brand the wrong narrative.

That's not how I meant it to sound.

You're more like a campy cartoon or those greeting cards.

I'm more of a sexy,

vulnerable, strong sound.

Could you go, could you please, this is a cease and desist from reading my captions.

You're ruining the tone of what I'm saying.

Okay.

It's supposed to say, a wrong partner will find you in peace and leave you in pieces.

Spelled P-I-E-C-E-S.

Get it?

Because it's peace and then pieces.

A right partner will find you in pieces and lead you to piece.

So now we go from P-R-E-C-E to P-E-A-C-E.

Do you see what's going on there?

I don't know.

Did you see what I did there?

Did you see what I did there?

I worked hard on it.

Here's a really good

saying.

Hi, everyone.

I need your help picking the cover for my new book.

That was one.

That was one of them.

That reminds me of Craig.

Remember when Craig caught over?

He was like one of the only ones that gave us a say in his book cover.

I appreciated that.

Remember that?

His sewing down south or whatever his book was.

I don't remember that, actually.

I'm sad.

I would have definitely contributed it.

It was during COVID, and he had like three or four different covers, and it was really fun to like weigh in.

And he went with the one that everybody picked.

What was the one that he, what was the name of his book?

I don't know.

I don't know.

That's what it's called.

Stuck in the pillows, pillows of life.

I don't know.

It was about pillows.

Stuck in the pillows.

Stuck in the pillows of life.

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