#2929 Next Gen NYC S1E7 part 1: Touched a Shore Spot with Danny Murphy

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Speaker 3 Hello, and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about.

Speaker 3 I am Ben Mandelker, and joining me today, while Ronnie is still out on his lovely vacation, it is the one, the only, the hilarious, the wonderful Danny Murphy from Page 6 and Virtual reality.

Speaker 3 Hi, Danny. How are you?

Speaker 5 Good. How are you? I'm so excited to be in the Krappens universe again.
You boys are the best, as always.

Speaker 3 Oh, my goodness. Well, we adore you, which is why we keep tapping you to come back.
Although I shouldn't say that, like, if you don't get tapped, you know, not like,

Speaker 3 but we just, we just, it just speaks to how much we adore you. Oh, my God.

Speaker 5 I also love it. Wait, is he on a culinary tour as well? What is his vacation energy, or is it secret?

Speaker 3 No, it's not a secret. Ronnie

Speaker 3 is getting his eyes done.

Speaker 5 LASIC or a plastic?

Speaker 3 You know how you can develop tissue under your brow, right? And so

Speaker 3 he got some of it just sort of like, sort of like cut away.

Speaker 5 I love this.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 3 So he's just been recovering, but also, but also a vacation because I took my week off. And so he's entitled to take a week off.

Speaker 3 So he's resting, but he's also, he's recovering, but he's also, you know, I think having some much, much needed RR.

Speaker 5 Good. Okay.
He deserves that. I'm excited to to see the eye debut, too.

Speaker 3 I know, me too. I'm so excited for him.
I also have some tissue that's like causing this eye to be like a little wonky, but

Speaker 5 do we say that for the insurance coverage? I'm like, mine is wonky too.

Speaker 3 I don't know. I'm too lazy to do anything about it.

Speaker 3 I'll be like this, like in like three years in the podcast. I'd be like, huh, today we're talking about Brooks Marks.

Speaker 5 Just like Lolan voiceover, like him on Next Gen.

Speaker 3 Yes, exactly.

Speaker 3 So speaking of which we are here to talk about next gen nyc i should also mention this is uh this recap is also available on video you can go to patreon.com slash watch what crappens and if you support on the video level uh watch crap is on demand level is what it's called uh you can watch us not just listen and i encourage everyone to look at danny's beautiful face i'm like your your skin is so clear like you are so refreshed i'm obsessed uh thank you thank you for that it's i have a really good camera i invested in a good camera so i would like to say it's my skin, but it's just the camera.

Speaker 5 Okay. The best of both worlds.
The best of both worlds.

Speaker 3 I will say it's, I will say that. I used to have terrible skin.
I used to have the worst skin because I had the, I had,

Speaker 3 basically my brother, when I was like 12, taught me how to like

Speaker 3 put on like anti-pimple stuff. Like he was like,

Speaker 3 he was like, okay, first you put on sea breeze, which I don't know if they even sell sea breeze, stringent.

Speaker 3 And then you put on clearosil, which it turns out, I don't know, I don't know, this is not what you're supposed to do for your skin.

Speaker 3 And I, of course, I was 12, so I was like, okay, I'll do what my brother says.

Speaker 3 And I continued with that skin. I did not question it until I was 30.
I just kept on doing it. I was like,

Speaker 5 oh, man, no, okay.

Speaker 3 I would just do it. And like, the thing is, like, you would strip away all the oils with the sea breeze, and then you add the clearosil, and it would just clog everything up.

Speaker 5 And it was, I just, you got dry breakouts all the time.

Speaker 3 Non-stop breakouts for all of high school, all of college, my entire 20s. I had terrible acne.

Speaker 3 And then one time I got pneumonia and I was like too sick to actually bother with a skincare regimen. And I emerged and I was like, wait a second.

Speaker 5 It looks great. Okay.
Pneumonia is the hack. All right.
Let me just always be pale and sick.

Speaker 3 And then I was like, wait a second, I'm never going to touch those things again.

Speaker 3 So, yes, that's a nice little story that has nothing to do with anything we're talking about today. Thanks for the three people who are left listening.

Speaker 5 Today, we're at the Dolce Gabbana event, yes.

Speaker 5 Yes.

Speaker 3 Yes, we are.

Speaker 3 They are at a Dolce Gabbana event.

Speaker 3 They will be leaving for it very soon. They haven't left just yet.
Soon. We're talking next gen, New York City.
What are your thoughts on this season?

Speaker 5 Tell me everything. No, I don't know.

Speaker 5 It kind of, I feel this first season is sort of like the same situation as the first season of The Valley. When the trailer came out, hated Hated it.
I was like, what are we doing here?

Speaker 5 First episode, I was like,

Speaker 5 what is

Speaker 5 what is happening? But I was like, okay, it's a lot of setup. So we need the setup.

Speaker 3 Very sizzle, really. That was very episode.

Speaker 5 Sizzling hot. Yes.
And then second onward, I don't know what switched in me or switched on the show. I can't stop watching it.
It's so good.

Speaker 5 I'm blown away and eating my words about not wanting the show to happen because all of them are crazy and monotone in the best way. Georgia should be on Gallery Girls in Another World.

Speaker 5 Like it really checks a lot of boxes. Yes.

Speaker 3 Yep.

Speaker 3 I actually, when I saw the trailer, I loved the trailer.

Speaker 3 I was really, I was on board. And then the first episode was, I thought, a bit shaky.

Speaker 3 And when I say sizzle reel, for people who don't know, sizzle reel, a lot of times when, the, when companies are like, they want to pitch like, hey, this should be a reality show, they kind of put together like a 20-minute, like, sort of semi-episode with like a lot of like introductions of like people and it has like a weird vibe and energy to it.

Speaker 3 And yeah, it's choppy. It has a weird flow.
So that's what I felt about the first episode. But I was like, but I still like it.
Like it took a while. It was like a lot of setup.
And then I sort of,

Speaker 3 you know, they ended with that, like the hand washing thing. And I was like, I think I may be hooked.
Right. I was, I felt, you know, I felt something with that.

Speaker 5 Because also the first time I met Georgia, I, the first thing I asked her, I was like, did you wash your hands?

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah. Did she?

Speaker 5 She said she has been doing it more on occasion. And now when she is in public restrooms, she makes sure to wash her hands in case people who watch the show were there.
So Bravo's changing lives.

Speaker 3 Public shaming works once in a while. It really does.

Speaker 5 Forever. Yes.

Speaker 3 This is a great use case for it. Yes.

Speaker 5 Not for Charlie, probably, but for Georgia, yes.

Speaker 3 Yes. I

Speaker 3 yeah, but I think the show's great. I

Speaker 3 my note is I think we actually need less of the parents. I think the show is better when it's just focused on the kids.

Speaker 5 And I feel like Brooks is using the parents a lot as a crutch because he seems very overwhelmed in the main character moment. And I love the Marks family.
They're very entertaining.

Speaker 5 But it seems he doesn't know how to fully

Speaker 5 get in the mix the way he wants to. So then he'll like film with the parents instead of like

Speaker 5 having a more dramatic sit-down moment with someone. And I don't need Seth Marks to have like to go through every alphabet of the LGBTQ plus community with random kids he doesn't know.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that was really cringy in a way that I didn't enjoy.

Speaker 3 I don't mind that like, I guess like, you know, we have like cameos from the parents that like once per season, but like it's really been like so much Seth.

Speaker 3 And someone made a very good point online that like during the Salt Lake City season, it was like every, every, anytime there was like a scene with Seth, he's like, I got to go. I got to go to work.

Speaker 3 I can't be here. I got to leave.
But somehow for this show, he's around nonstop.

Speaker 5 You're, you're right. That is really,

Speaker 5 he never is leaving. And I feel Brooksy actually doesn't, Brooks wants Meredith to film.
I don't know if he is asking Seth to show up.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I feel like it's just, it's, I wonder if maybe just, it just comes down to just too much Seth on this show.

Speaker 5 Too much Seth. With the golfing episode, the golfing scene with like Ava, Brooks, Damon, and Seth.
I was like, who, who, what, what's happening here?

Speaker 3 Yeah, why is there, it just, it's just, I think the issue why there's so much Seth is that he feels very on. It doesn't feel, he's like trying to like cultivate some sort of persona.

Speaker 5 I don't know if he's trying trying to segue into motivational speaking or whatever but the vibe is not right and it's not authentic and doesn't match anything else happening on the show because also because that's what i like to your point i'm like candy was in for a scene and like rehashing stuff with riley that's going on in the season so it seems to progress kim's all siak just eating cheese whiz for five minutes perfect fine perfect fine but um i don't know if if they kept on lingering around it could be too much and to your point too seth this guy wanted to like was saying like

Speaker 3 things about your daughter and you're having a sit-down thing to him because you feel he doesn't have a dad in his life mind you charlie's dad seems perfectly fine yes exactly i'm totally team amoir like i've i like i get it he worked hard and his son is a fuck up and he knows he probably like was not there enough for his son and he fucked up his son and he's tried to help and he he he's tried to do everything he's tried to throw money at it he can't do it it's too late uh and you know he's just not like but charlie is ultimately the one who's fucked up and he needs to get it get get it together all the crappens listeners right now retweet like give yourself a little pat on the back if your dad wasn't there enough as a kid and are you like charlie no so charlie there you go it gets to a thing where i feel like he's about to be 30.

Speaker 5 we gotta let the pat like you know you gotta look inward just to be a better person outward I'm not saying that he, that Anwar was a good dad, but like, you're right.

Speaker 3 You're 30. It's time to start fixing this because you're too rich to not have this fixed by now.

Speaker 5 Get a psychiatrist.

Speaker 3 Get something. get it get a psychiatrist a psychologist a therapist a life coach uh a copy of the secret just something artist way please yes

Speaker 3 anything

Speaker 3 all right let's let's dive into this week's episode so we're in the big um the cast trip we're at the jersey shore which is by the way also something that's really funny with this show which is that

Speaker 3 what i think about this show is it feels like Bravo took two concepts that they were working on and mashed them together.

Speaker 3 It kind of feels like Bravo had been like maybe toying with some sort of like

Speaker 3 wealthy kids of New York and then also kids of real housewives. And like, oh, wait, we can actually get them all to work together as like one big show.

Speaker 3 Because I feel like there's like a little bit of a culture clash happening on this show, right?

Speaker 5 That explains like why Gia's here.

Speaker 3 Yeah, because Gia does not make sense. No, like, I'm sorry.
She does not make sense on this show. This is a show about like kids in Manhattan being chic and like doing chic things.

Speaker 3 And like, then there's Gia off in New Jersey, an hour away. And like all they do is they have to schlep out to Jersey every few episodes and have to hang out with Gia.
With Gia.

Speaker 5 And because it's funny, when the show was first about to come out, I was like, how is Gia going to pretend to live in New York for this? Because that's what I thought she was going to be doing.

Speaker 3 No, she's just at her pool. She just doesn't.
She doesn't

Speaker 3 have a pool. Yeah.
She'll sometimes take an Uber. She won't even take an Uber and she drives, actually.
She drives.

Speaker 5 That's funny. And I'm like, I live in Jersey and take public transit to the city every day.
Yeah, you could do it if you want to.

Speaker 3 And it's just like, there's a big cultural divide there, too. You know, I mean, there's a reason why there's a real household in New York and New Jersey.
That's not really like those, it's two worlds.

Speaker 3 It is very two different worlds. And you could see that some of them, like Amira, and is it Amira or Amira? I think it's Amira, right?

Speaker 5 It's Amira because I always, I said Amira when I was interviewing Ava and Brooks and they didn't say anything.

Speaker 5 And then right when it wrapped, they were like, by the way, you said her name wrong the entire time. I was like, perfect.

Speaker 3 Thanks, Scott. Thank you.

Speaker 5 Thank you so much.

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 3 I didn't realize the question would become linked with trauma.

Speaker 5 Oh, is that always is.

Speaker 5 And it goes back to Anwar. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yes, Anwar. If only Anwar had been there longer for you.
But Amira, Charlie, Ava, they seem like anytime they have to go to New Jersey, they're like

Speaker 3 not about it. They're like, why are we not going to the Hamptons right now? Why, why do we have to go to the Jersey Shore?

Speaker 5 And that's what I am a little bit as a Jersey boy who's been to the Hamptons and the Jersey Shore all the time.

Speaker 5 Jersey Shore does beat the Hamptons there.

Speaker 3 Does it really?

Speaker 5 You're driving in the middle. You're driving so far out to the Hamptons to have no cell reception.
You're not even by the beach most of the time.

Speaker 5 I mean, maybe people with higher incomes than me are closer to the beach. It's like a mix of like

Speaker 5 grass and that and a bowl of pasta is $48.

Speaker 3 That is true.

Speaker 5 Yeah, which is a little too much.

Speaker 3 My dear friends Neil and Nate live in the Hamptons and I always love when I get to go visit them because it's very posh out there and it's so lovely, but it is a trek. It is quite the trek.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Also Nanila Trek.

Speaker 3 Is this shore trek? I feel like it's equal trek.

Speaker 5 It's equal trek. Well, she went to Ocean City, which is like you're passing all the good places.
Like they, if

Speaker 5 g, g, if I was booking this, we would have gone to Asbury Park, which is like the gay, fun town on the boardwalk, which they could have done, but they didn't do it.

Speaker 5 So they added an extra hour to their commute. And it just feels easier, maybe because I'm from Jersey.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 3 Well, either way, you can see that Amyra and Charlie, Ava, like they, they are just like,

Speaker 3 they're not, they just don't want to go to Jersey ever.

Speaker 5 No,

Speaker 5 they are like, this is repulsed. They're repulsed.

Speaker 3 They are repulsed.

Speaker 3 They're repulsed both by it being Jersey and by the fact that like, you know, Gia is a reality star because they also have like a, the snobbery.

Speaker 3 They don't seem to realize they're actually on a reality show. and so they have this snobbery about real, these reality star kids.

Speaker 5 Also, like Ava Dash saying she works for her money. I'm like, wait, what is happening here?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I'm not sure about that. Well, that kind of ties in, and we'll get into it at the end.
Like, the

Speaker 5 fight of who is privileged.

Speaker 3 Oh, my goodness. Okay, this is, we have to, I'm, I'm being a bad host.
I am not moving this long. I am just, I can't, I just sometimes, you know, I just want to.

Speaker 5 I just want to gab.

Speaker 3 I just want to gab, guys.

Speaker 3 Um, just turn the screen cap on, drive to the Jersey Shore, and by the time you get there, we'll be done. And I'll meet you.

Speaker 5 So, yeah.

Speaker 3 So, but we are at the Jersey Shore. They've just had, they've been fighting at dinner.
They're at this

Speaker 3 casino.

Speaker 3 Ocean Club, yes. Ocean Club.
Have you been to that hotel? I think that

Speaker 3 I've been on Bravo before.

Speaker 5 Yes, I have not been there, but it is the hotel that if a Bravo lebritis is going to Atlantic City for an appearance, they are going there.

Speaker 5 Okay. That is the spot.

Speaker 3 Well, they,

Speaker 3 they're having a fight because Ariana had said, like, Charlie, look at the camera for the selfie.

Speaker 3 selfie, and then Georgia was like, Oh my god, like, you're so fake because you don't like him, but now all of a sudden, you invite him to be in your selfie.

Speaker 3 And then, then she's like, Well, why are you whispering across the table? And then Riley jumped in, and Gia's like, Riley, why do you always have something to say? And Riley was like, Pause.

Speaker 3 It was a fight that barely made sense.

Speaker 5 It really did not. And I just, the only saving grace was Georgia's whisper shouting was hilarious.

Speaker 3 Yes, but it made no sense.

Speaker 5 And also, I was like, I was like, Why is this even just eat appetizers?

Speaker 5 Just

Speaker 5 eat appetizers and watch the magician find a card.

Speaker 3 Yes, exactly.

Speaker 3 By the way, one thing that I've been surprised about, Ronnie and I have both have been surprised that Riley has been really front and center on the show, but in all the publicity leading up to the show, you could barely find Riley at all.

Speaker 5 And it's funny, too, because she,

Speaker 5 her press tour was done a week before the show came out. And it was because she was going on like a pre-planned trip with her family.
And she was really quiet.

Speaker 5 And like, she was like, oh, it was a good time. Like, so I was kind of like, oh, is Riley really going to be in it? She's every storyline.

Speaker 3 She is. I, that she was barely in the trailer.
Yeah. She was, I was like, okay, they just threw her in because of the candy.

Speaker 3 I was like, wow, but, but like, she is actually completely very central to everything.

Speaker 5 Shows up. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 She really shows up. And then you have someone like Shai who appears like once in a blue moon.
And they put him, if you look at the poster, he is at the front center of the poster.

Speaker 3 And I'm like, why is he? I don't understand. The marketing is very confusing to me.
I don't understand why some people have like such prominent positions in the materials.

Speaker 5 Because that's where I was like, is he a friend? Is he like fully on the show? Because even himself, he's like, I have a day job, guys. I can't really do this.
He like works for an agent. Yeah.

Speaker 3 He probably worked for the agent that packaged this show.

Speaker 3 I'm like, I feel like Dylan was supposed to be like the friend.

Speaker 3 I feel like Dylan quit midway through. He got fed up with Charlie.
And then they're like, I guess let's put Shy in there instead.

Speaker 5 They're like, he's cute too. Okay, we'll try it.
You're like, have you ever done OnlyFans? Do you want to? Yeah.

Speaker 3 would you like to start an argument about privilege okay great

Speaker 3 so um this the fight just continues from last week it doesn't really it's it's sort of like a retread and we kind of like have we see um we see brooks having a thought bubble where he sees meredith and he's like you know he's like this she's like disengage bronx disengage

Speaker 3 and that's what he does and then we suddenly sort of like transport to the next morning and yes that was a little confusing to me because I was like, I had to rewind.

Speaker 5 I was like, did I miss a moment? And I'm like, oh, we're getting the recounting, the storytelling. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I thought that I was surprised that we didn't just start off in morning times, but that's fine.
I guess because they had said to be continuous, they have to like honor the to be continuous.

Speaker 3 They gave us like a few beats.

Speaker 5 Yeah, a few beats and a few like Brooks talking in VO versus on the show.

Speaker 3 Yeah, there were, I don't love when Bravo shows rely too much much on silly hijinks like that, like little like Chirons or like voiceovers, you know, like that.

Speaker 5 But because also I'm like, I know that's not what Brooks is really thinking now.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.
Because like that at all.

Speaker 5 No, I'm like, just have him have a confessional about why he's not talking.

Speaker 3 Yeah, precisely. So the next morning, people are waking up.
The seafood, the remnants of the seafood boil, I guess they just didn't throw them out.

Speaker 3 They just like left them in that pot and then they then and then they put the pot outside.

Speaker 5 Repulsive.

Speaker 5 Repulsive.

Speaker 3 Just a public service announcement. Throw away

Speaker 3 your shellfish.

Speaker 5 And also, because like the smell of that, why leaving it? And also, because I'm like, it's a rental house, guys. Like, don't be a dick.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And then there's that too.
Okay.

Speaker 3 So Amira and Brooks are talking and they're talking about sharks because Brooks has a shark tracker.

Speaker 5 This moment, I was like, Ben, what is, what is it? This is the moment I was like, what is happening? Is this sponsored? Because they didn't even say the app of the shark.

Speaker 3 I thought it was going to, I thought it was like a light sponsorship of this app because i'm like what is this i thought it was gonna be like when nbcu owned priv and they would have like the priv squad come to every reality show and give them like a terrible makeover yes no i prefer that i prefer that to just like hey are you watching sharks right now i'm like do you guys want to rehash what happened last night no okay perfect Yeah, I really like it could have very well have been like some sort of like corporate synergy with all the Jaws.

Speaker 3 We were talking the other day about like, there's all this like Jaws hype because the 50th anniversary of Jaws like oh this makes sense peacock is doing has a Jaws app and no this was just some sort of third-party shark app a shark name like Gowry.

Speaker 5 Yeah

Speaker 5 fine

Speaker 3 so then Brooks is Brooks texts Ava and he's you know like Ava's like oh so my fitting got pushed oh my god I'm still gonna try to make try try my best to make it but it's just like whatever she's one of those people that's like

Speaker 5 yeah we know her I was gonna say they're the people i and they think they're doing what is right in their mind but is the most annoying thing just say from the jump that you cannot go because this is worth this is worse than that in my yeah yeah yeah the whole like oh i'm gonna try to make it you're not gonna try to make it you're not gonna drive all the way down to the jersey shore and then go all the way up to the hamptons it's never gonna happen and also like is she even more than the hamptons She's not even gonna go to the Hamptons.

Speaker 3 I was getting, I was getting more and more angry. By the time the episode was done, I was like, I fucking hate Ava.

Speaker 5 And it seems like the season finale is going to be all about all eyes on her skipping that event or something like that. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
And also this podcast.

Speaker 5 It was, I thought it was like a fitting for Dolce Gabbana, but then Amira was like, no, it's like an event. It was just like a Hamptons Day.

Speaker 3 Would the, yeah, was, would the fitting be in the Hamptons or would it be in the city? That's what I mean.

Speaker 3 Wouldn't they normally like put it do it in the city and then bust them all out to the Hamptons?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5 Who's getting fit in like an open space in the Hamptons in 98-degree weather?

Speaker 3 Yeah, something does not add up at all.

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Speaker 3 so they're talking a little bit about like you know chloe had to go to a doctor's appointment and everything and we see that georgia is

Speaker 3 um inexplicably in um an enormous suite at the hotel yeah and she says that omar got it for her but i think it's like clear that like the hotel was like, well, like, we'll comp you dinner and everything, but we want to show off our rooms.

Speaker 3 So you have to like shoot at something in the room.

Speaker 5 Right? That's genius. Yes.

Speaker 3 There's no way that Omar, Omar, and Georgia are not paying for that room. Not my father.
I'm sorry. They cannot afford that room.

Speaker 5 He can afford one suit.

Speaker 3 He can only afford one suit. He is like in, he's, he is in some like low-rent Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross, like white,

Speaker 3 whiteboarded, like Bitcoin operation over there.

Speaker 5 Oh, because it's so funny when Georgia always makes fun of Charlie doing crypto. I'm like, isn't that what your boyfriend does?

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And she like somehow brands it as like a weird like disruptor, anti-capitalist,

Speaker 3 rebellious thing. I was like, no, this is the worst, the worst of capitalism.

Speaker 5 I was going to say, no, baby, it's past the point of no return. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Did you, did you even see the headlines about like the,

Speaker 3 did we find any re find out why Charlie was at the townhome, townhome of the Bitcoin

Speaker 3 situation?

Speaker 5 I hope there's a reunion so we can find out about that because I have to say that.

Speaker 3 I would love to hear that.

Speaker 3 Yeah. If he comes onto your show, please ask him.

Speaker 5 I don't know if he's, I don't know if Bravo's putting him on to do press, but

Speaker 3 Bravo's like, yeah, we have enough on our hands with Jax. I don't think we want to put Charlie out there just yet.

Speaker 3 But please promise that if he does come through your studio, you will ask, why were you at the scene of the crime?

Speaker 5 Yeah. What were you doing there, my love?

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 anyway, Georgia's there she's got this sweep because she just everyone was fighting and she just didn't want to go back to the house with anyone so she decided to stay at the hotel um because she's delicate like that and

Speaker 5 you know a chaotic little delicate girl and she had the worst the hangover of every dimension

Speaker 5 i'm like because you only mainline red wine Like you mainline bottom shelf red wine, girl.

Speaker 5 Like that's going to give you like, and that's because she's young, but she has to know that's not going to help you out in the long run.

Speaker 3 No, it's not. It definitely is not.
It also feels very like 2011. It's like very Cougar Town, you know.

Speaker 5 Oh, Penny Can. They all just do that with the sequel and boil.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Penny can.

Speaker 3 Oh, throwback. Okay.
So

Speaker 3 Hudson and Ariana are wondering whether or not Georgia is going to come back. And Ariana's like, I've replayed this conversation between me and Georgia like quite a bit.

Speaker 3 And maybe I came off as a mean girl. I'm like,

Speaker 3 I don't, I am not detecting any mean girl in this.

Speaker 5 No, I just was like, I think you were asking her. Remember, I was like, Hudson was raving, raising his voice at Georgia a little bit, which I would have been like, Ariana, tell him no.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 But Ariana was just like, what the fuck are you doing?

Speaker 3 Yeah, exactly. Ariana has to remember that she's the good, good Zolsiac.
She's the one that we root for out of that brood.

Speaker 5 She really is. I'm shocked by how much I love her.

Speaker 3 She's doing great. Yeah.
You know, she was back in the, in the OG, you know, in Atlanta, all the attention was on Brielle. And I was like, Ariana's the one to watch.

Speaker 3 And I got scared. I got scared that she wouldn't wind out, turn out well.
But like, she's great.

Speaker 5 She really is so adapted and adult and mature. And talk about Charlie, take notes on like not having your parents' ramifications make you an asshole.

Speaker 3 You know, that is like the perfect counter argument to anytime Charlie complains about his upbringing. It's like, you were not, you were not raised by Kim Zolziak.

Speaker 5 And Croy.

Speaker 3 And Croy

Speaker 3 and whatever other people came through that household. Okay.
Big Papa.

Speaker 5 Oh, please.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 5 The auditor.

Speaker 3 Everything. Everything.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 now we see Riley in bed. So Riley calls Georgia and Georgia's like, oh my God, I woke up.
No joke. Never had a worse headache in my entire life.

Speaker 3 It's like someone took an axe and slashed it across my head like the worst.

Speaker 3 And I was like, so that girl that says this every single weekend.

Speaker 5 Oh, because that's what, and I know it was a few hours ago. The same girl who says that is the same girl who brings her laptop out to text.

Speaker 5 Ma'am, what? No.

Speaker 5 Ma'am, how?

Speaker 3 Also, how do they? I feel like I would not be allowed to bring a laptop into a club.

Speaker 5 Oh, that's true.

Speaker 3 She must just have connections.

Speaker 5 I mean, Anadel V.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Party planner for everyone. Anna Delvy, only only list.
No other parties.

Speaker 3 I hope you get to go to one of George's party. I hope that like you get put on the lists.

Speaker 5 Please. I'm not going to bowl, but I'll go.

Speaker 3 It'll be like Diplo

Speaker 3 at like an H ⁇ H bagels.

Speaker 5 She's like, Diplo at Katz Deli. Who would think of that?

Speaker 1 Yet no one.

Speaker 5 For a reason.

Speaker 5 No one wants that.

Speaker 3 I don't want to party at Katz's Deli like that.

Speaker 5 No, I'm not going to the orgasm chair for that.

Speaker 3 I'm not going to have what she's having.

Speaker 3 She is really obsessed with Harry Met Sally. I didn't even put those two together, that that scene was at Katz's Deli.

Speaker 5 Yes.

Speaker 5 I don't know how. It's the one film she saw, and she's going to, the one film she saw before like.
2018 and it's going to be her film. Yes.

Speaker 3 Yeah. It's like a cool retro thing.
It's like how Gen Z loves like Kodak Advantix cameras. Oh, maybe.
You know?

Speaker 5 Truly, yes. Soon we're going to be doing like, like, it's going to be the printing press.
It's going to be back. George is going to have like a party where it's like, you make a newspaper.
Love.

Speaker 3 Guys, if you want to get into this club, you have to, you have to make a, you have to write a letter in cursive requesting attendance.

Speaker 5 You have to restart the Industrial Revolution and then let set sail.

Speaker 3 You have to have a bonnet and you need to have a spinning wheel.

Speaker 5 No, Georgia's apartment. I know she has both already.
Yes. A bonnet, a spinning wheel, and Charlie speakers.

Speaker 3 Uh-huh. 100%.

Speaker 3 Charlie speakers.

Speaker 3 So,

Speaker 3 yeah. So, Georgia is like, yeah, it's just

Speaker 3 last night was so much. I just had to remove myself.
It was like everything was happening all at once. And I was literally like, fucking Omar's mute over there.
Mr. Mute.

Speaker 3 She looked like we could burn there.

Speaker 5 Effortless drag. Effortless.

Speaker 5 Got him.

Speaker 3 Got him. Mr.
Mute.

Speaker 3 That's Omar. Which is funny because he's been so chatty all season.

Speaker 5 He has been popping up saying, like, I almost love you, right? Wasn't that a thing?

Speaker 3 Yeah, when he said, well, let's talk about the elephant in the room, and which was funny because there was no elephant in that room. But he was like, well, I guess what do we call a relationship?

Speaker 3 It was like a very, like, Love Island was airing at the same time. It was like, it was not, it was not competing.

Speaker 5 And then she's like, because she also the girl, not me looking for an elephant right now.

Speaker 5 The way I know, she does the robot and an Uber. Like, she just is always like

Speaker 3 all the time in her bonnet.

Speaker 3 So,

Speaker 3 yeah, Riley is basically like, basically says that Georgia has a backbone. And then

Speaker 3 Riley's also saying, like, wow, it's weird because all of a sudden everyone loves Charlie. And it's like, literally, like, the Twilight Zone.

Speaker 3 Ever forgot that Charlie said he would slap Georgia if she was a guy.

Speaker 3 Like, out of all the things that we're mad about with Charlie, like, especially something as stupid as getting a table at a club, like, that comment's not okay.

Speaker 3 Charlie, which is having a, he's really, he's really, you know, really throwing himself into the villain edit, I have to say.

Speaker 5 Oh, it's almost, it's like

Speaker 5 so flawlessly him, I have to assume, because who else would do this? No human with a developed anything would be like, oh, this is perfect for me to say.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he, um, you know, he gave us some microaggression this season. He's, he's given us now this like threat of violence.
Against a woman.

Speaker 3 Yeah, against a woman. General spoiledness, not paying, not making his poor friends actually like

Speaker 3 foot the bill for like thousands of dollars for things.

Speaker 5 The way they throw about money so casually on the show is that that does send me into hives, but I guess that it's fine for them.

Speaker 3 It is wild. Like I cannot even imagine at like 22 or 23 being like, okay, well, whatever.
We'll split the bottle thing and it'll be like 2,000 per person. I literally could not even imagine that.

Speaker 5 I didn't know, I didn't know how to say 3,500 as a 22-year-old. I didn't know that was a price or anything.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Bottle service was a very foreign concept to me.

Speaker 3 That was, and like, when I finally did bottle service for the first time, I think it was like $150 or $200 per person, but it was definitely not like $2,000.

Speaker 5 $2,000. And also, it's like the biggest scam at all.
Cause I'm like, then they give you like Tropicana orange juice next to it.

Speaker 3 And and I'm like who is this for oh hey this is one funny money he wants a night of screwdrivers

Speaker 3 that's basically what it is

Speaker 3 vodka tonics and screwdrivers enjoy everyone

Speaker 3 although one time I did get bottle service um in Vegas at like um

Speaker 3 what there's a club this is like 2000 and this had to be 2008 or nine it's a club at um at the wind that had like a waterfall it was like this big club with like a lake inside.

Speaker 3 And we got bottle service. They put us like right center, like right by the edge by the pond.
And everyone kept coming over to us. And like we were living the fantasy that's electric.

Speaker 3 It was exciting, especially in like 2008. Like, I just, I just felt like the coolest person in Vegas.

Speaker 5 You were in that moment, you were.

Speaker 3 I was. It was official.
I was. I was the Charlie.
I was the Charlie of Vegas.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's a great moment. So, Brooks.

Speaker 3 Meanwhile, Brooks is,

Speaker 3 he has his fly zapper.

Speaker 3 It's like this electric tennis racket thing. But here's what's driving me nuts.
He's trying to hit these flies, but he's swatting at them like he has a fly swatter, but you have a zapper.

Speaker 3 I feel like you don't hit the wall with the zapper, right?

Speaker 5 No, because you just, it's supposed to press and it hits, it fries them, because now you're frying the wall. The security deposit is not coming back on this.

Speaker 3 You're supposed to, I think, swat at the air and the fly goes through it and hits it, right?

Speaker 5 Yes, I think so. I also, I'm like, I don't know if I would purchase that because it just looks weird as hell.

Speaker 3 I just don't feel like it's gonna be effective. And I also feel like it's dangerous.
I feel like I would zap myself, to be honest.

Speaker 5 I would 2,000%. Yes.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So that was a...
We give failing marks on his fly zapping performances.

Speaker 3 So Gia is announcing that she's like, you know, the Jersey Shore. You know, you can do anything.
You make it what you want it to be. You can go tubing.

Speaker 3 You can go what, do what a sports, you can go crabbing. And versus like, crabbing, what's crabbing? It's like, you know, you get crabs.

Speaker 5 I do love GA. Like you can do anything here for activities.
And that's, that's stretching it.

Speaker 3 I'm like, I, I'm, I'm not going to lie. I might do crabbing, but like, I don't know if I want to do any of the other things that you mentioned.

Speaker 5 Oh my God. And also when they went, I'm like, so you just went on like, not even like a a fun boat you were just like stuck on a tube together

Speaker 3 and also catch me never at the thing that they did with the uh inflatables i mean yeah i i think catch me never at that entire little uh activity park that they went to no oh my god no no i'm in my bougie beach era where i want to like

Speaker 3 I want to like have an umbrella and I want to have a beer for contest cookbook to leaf through.

Speaker 5 Yes, you want to be relaxed because it's a beach.

Speaker 3 Yes. Yeah.
Yeah. I want to, I want to do, I like, I like, I like that kind of vibe.
Um, I'm not, I don't need to go tubing at the beach.

Speaker 5 God, no, with 15 people.

Speaker 3 With 15 people. Also, is do people crab at the Jersey Shore? I did not think of the Jersey Shore as a destination for crabbing.

Speaker 5 You literally can, you can go, you can go for like Frito-Lays. That's usually in the water when you're swimming there.
I'm like, you can crab for Doritos. Like, that's like,

Speaker 5 yeah.

Speaker 3 Does Gia know the difference between crabs and boots? Because she's like, I just imagine her with like a crab trap and like caught three crabs and she like brings up four boots or something.

Speaker 5 She's like, dinner's good tonight. Yeah.

Speaker 5 It's just in the same pot from outside.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So Riley is telling everyone that Georgia is staying at a hotel and

Speaker 3 she's going to be meeting Georgia at a cabana. She's like, does anyone want to come with me? Otherwise, it's just going to be me and Georgia.
And

Speaker 5 everyone's like, no.

Speaker 5 Yeah, not a good sell.

Speaker 3 We have free passes to some sort of generic activity park by the by the coast, so

Speaker 3 we're gonna be bouncing around. Yeah, we're gonna skip the cabana.

Speaker 3 So, uh, then Charlie comes downstairs, and uh, Ariana, they're just kind of like

Speaker 3 there's this moment where she says, Ariana's like, I was going out to the hammock last night, and I see Riley and Charlie eating cake, and then Riley's like, Oh, was that me?

Speaker 3 Was that me eating the cake?

Speaker 5 I was so confused at that. I'm like, did she like astro project outside of her body to be like, that was me?

Speaker 3 I saw a presence eating the cake.

Speaker 3 I didn't realize it was actually me.

Speaker 5 No, surely.

Speaker 3 So they look at like a video of it and everything. It's like, funny.
I'm like, delete it. And, you know, Charlie is never going to delete anything that was incriminating on anyone else.

Speaker 5 Ever.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 3 So he's saying, like, well, I know last night was pretty messy, but like, I was just kind of expecting to like gamble, but it was just me in the hot seat all night long.

Speaker 3 so we see flashbacks all that and and everything

Speaker 3 and uh we also there was a scene so well here's a here's a criticism i have of the show okay i feel like a lot of good stuff gets relegated to the flashbacks and i feel like i would like to see less less like wacky stuff with the parents and more of these flashbacks of their own scenes right yeah not as much criticism in this episode because it was all the kids no parents but i'm just saying in general that there was a scene where charlie and hudson um

Speaker 3 they had a confrontation yes Yes.

Speaker 5 About Ariana. And I was like, why was this summed up in a sentence when it probably went on for like 20 minutes?

Speaker 3 Yeah, because it was such a big thing. So Hudson's like, so by the way, Riley told me how you think Ariana's hot.
And Charlie's like, wait, Riley said that?

Speaker 3 I'm like, well, I think, I mean, I think she's attractive. I mean, it should be a compliment.
Didn't say it in any derogatory way. Anyway, it's all good, man.
It's all good.

Speaker 3 Like, that's Charlie's thing. He talks a big game, but then when confronted, he...
folds immediately.

Speaker 5 And then in the confessional, I feel like I could take Hudson in a fight. You think he's been in a fight before? Have either of you?

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Also, you could not take Hudson. I don't think Hudson's like, he's not like at Mr.
MMA here, but like.

Speaker 5 Also, he has a heavy-shaped Dior satchel bag. That could kill someone.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 He has very dry hair, and that could be very scratchy on your skin. It feels so dry.

Speaker 5 I know.

Speaker 3 I'm still trying to figure out what his, whose hair.

Speaker 3 Like, whose hair? I feel like there's a celebrity, and I'm trying to figure out what,

Speaker 3 who is his hair twin because it's out there oh yes oh my god is it grace coddington from vogue

Speaker 5 oh

Speaker 5 does he have grace coddington hair he has grace coding hair screen i feel that would i feel that would make him that's a compliment to him he would she's an icon it's literally that

Speaker 5 it literally is

Speaker 5 wow grace coddington hair

Speaker 3 wow

Speaker 3 um she's also 84 I cannot believe that. That's shocking.
Wow.

Speaker 5 Anna Taurus. Okay, go me.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Maybe she should be on this show. Where's her?

Speaker 5 Where's I would love?

Speaker 5 That's next gen. That's her thing.
She's like, I am the next gen.

Speaker 3 Maybe she just shows up pretending like she's like Gen Z. She just has like a Gen Z outfit on.

Speaker 5 It's like younger. It's Satan Foster and younger.
Hi, guys.

Speaker 1 I bowled before.

Speaker 3 We're Diplo.

Speaker 3 So anyway, they squash their beef or whatever.

Speaker 3 You know, it seems like everything is fine. But yeah, Charlie was like, yeah, he has to have some sort of ability to defend himself.
He's walking around with that much jewelry.

Speaker 3 Because I think that like all that Charlie really has is like this waspy sense of like old money tacky. Like I'm not tacky.
They're tacky, right?

Speaker 5 Which is so boring. I'm like, if you have money, please show it off so I can look at it.

Speaker 5 Yeah, exactly. You're hoping for it.
Someone with no money, I just like to see it. Yes.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Brooks serves pancakes. He's like, does anyone want a pancake? Does anyone mind if they're like a little extra rare?

Speaker 5 And Gia's like, we do, but it's your birthday. I'm like, what the fuck is going on here? I'm like,

Speaker 3 it's very on trend. I mean, the pancakes on Love Island really broke the internet.

Speaker 5 They really did. And I mean, Brooks could have a little cabby on Love Island.
That is true.

Speaker 3 And you know what? An undercooked pancake

Speaker 3 played a major role on

Speaker 5 Love Island. I mean, she would love Brooks.
Maybe they can couple up together. She can be in a

Speaker 5 smally with them.

Speaker 3 Huda and Brooks,

Speaker 3 that could be that would be an interesting watch.

Speaker 5 Yeah, and the boyfriend's name Cade or something? I don't really know.

Speaker 3 Which one?

Speaker 3 Brooks's boyfriend is oh, Cade, yeah.

Speaker 5 Cade, yes.

Speaker 3 Cade.

Speaker 5 For sure.

Speaker 3 I've never met a Cade. I feel like Cade is a name that's only used for like porn stars.

Speaker 5 Which, if so, compliments to all involved.

Speaker 3 Yes.

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Speaker 3 So, Georgia,

Speaker 3 Georgia's calling Omar, and she's like, are you ever going to travel with me and my friends again? Oh, my God. He's like, yeah, but there's stuff you guys have to work out.

Speaker 3 She's like, yeah, I understand why you didn't say anything at dinner. Mr.
Mute, did I tell you? I called you that.

Speaker 3 Anyway, I know like some people feel really strongly like your man should be standing up for you. Like maybe I think that because I said that earlier.
Hashtag Mr. Mute.

Speaker 3 We can't catch on, but it's like, well, you know, I can fight on my own. So like, I don't need you to speak for me.
I'm changing my story entirely right now.

Speaker 3 She's like, I think she's like fish. She's trying not to have a confrontation, but she's fishing for him to be like, I should have stood up for you, though.

Speaker 5 Oh, it's such a thing where, cause she was like, I don't think this, but everybody else does, Riley, because that's the only person she's talking to about it.

Speaker 5 This, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 3 He's like, I don't know.

Speaker 3 If I do have some thoughts, I'll write them on the whiteboards that cover our office and I'll let you know.

Speaker 5 I also, I'm like, and also, do you think him and Charlie are going to have a sit-down confrontation, girl?

Speaker 3 They are, apparently, based on the previews for next week.

Speaker 5 Who and what?

Speaker 5 They're going to go into bit. It's just crypto business.

Speaker 3 It'll be a crypto thing. He'll be like, Look, whatever feelings you have about me, whiteboard it.
Just whiteboard it. You want to whiteboard right now?

Speaker 5 Or like they verse each other in Mario Kart. Like, what is happening here?

Speaker 3 That would actually be very fun. I would watch that.

Speaker 3 I would be totally down for that. I would get into fights with people if it meant that we would have to resolve by playing Mario Kart.

Speaker 5 That's actually true. You know what? It probably would be much more peaceful for everybody.
And it will be a bit. Yes.
Yes.

Speaker 3 So, meanwhile, Ava is

Speaker 3 back at back in New York and

Speaker 3 she has a really interesting story to tell, which is that she saw a big cockroach and her maintenance man came in and was like, ooh, and she's like, I've never heard him say that.

Speaker 3 So safe to say, she's not the Dolchen Gamana fitting.

Speaker 3 She's not there.

Speaker 3 boring us with dull anecdotes of her of her time in the city.

Speaker 5 Which is kind of the through line.

Speaker 5 The through line from her. And also maybe taking over Slutty Vegan, one chain.

Speaker 3 Have you ever been to Slutty Vegan?

Speaker 5 I do. It's really good.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Is it?

Speaker 5 So that's when I saw it. I was like, okay, shout out to them.
But it is very good, like fascist, fast-ish vegan food.

Speaker 3 Okay. All right.
We'll allow that.

Speaker 3 So now people are getting into cars and they're going to be heading to like their various activities. So Riley arrives at the hotel with Georgia and

Speaker 3 George, Riley's like, So, you've just been in this room this whole time. She's like, I've literally been like watching TikToks on my phone.
It's like hilarious.

Speaker 3 I'm like on spinning wheel TikTok. Have you ever been on that? It's so good.

Speaker 3 I also do love. I'm curious about Loom TikTok, too.

Speaker 5 I love like Riley wasn't paying attention to her earlier because she asked again, Where's Omar?

Speaker 5 That's true.

Speaker 3 That's true. So

Speaker 3 Georgia said, the producer is like, where does Omar's money come from? And she's like, you know,

Speaker 3 I don't know exactly where his money comes from. I think he did like good crypto trades and investments in other crypto companies.
And I don't know.

Speaker 3 I think he has some Airbnb properties, stuff like that. I'm like, he's going to jail

Speaker 3 right now.

Speaker 5 And don't, if he does your business with a bowling alley, you're getting indicted.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you're going down with the ship. Yeah.
Okay. Just know this right now.
We all can see it we've seen these movies before

Speaker 3 boiler room wolf of wall street real hospital new jersey

Speaker 3 we've walked down the street wall street we walked down the street in new york we know who's going to jail who's not okay and war whatever if anwar did anything shady he he's he's not going to jail oh he's a smart boy yes he's smart he paid he paid people off your boy omar is jail jail time

Speaker 3 so um georgia says you know i see a softness in Riley and I can tell she has like a good heart.

Speaker 3 And I'm always going to feel like a little weird in the bathroom when I see her because I don't wash my hands. But I think we could have like a really, really good friendship.

Speaker 3 And like genuinely, I think she's like a really sweet girl,

Speaker 3 which is nice.

Speaker 3 But it's kind of funny that like, I don't see hardness in Riley.

Speaker 3 And I think the fact that, I think the fact that they say they see softness almost like a, surprisingly enough, is in and of itself kind of a microaggression.

Speaker 5 Oh, for sure. Because like whenever Riley's in a scene, she's just like silly and goofy.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Riley is no more like over it, quote unquote, over it than Gia is. Like they actually have a very similar demeanor.
And no one's ever like, oh, I see a softness in Gia.

Speaker 3 There's actually someone really nice down inside there.

Speaker 5 Yeah. And also, because, and

Speaker 5 unlike

Speaker 5 Riley, Gia doesn't even like wait to hear anything before she starts shouting or like

Speaker 5 because I'm like, Gia, how are you getting involved in every fight, but you don't like know any single person?

Speaker 3 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 You had to

Speaker 3 like, she's, I'm, I'm just, I'm so surprised that Gia would act this way, given that her mom is known for being so chill and thoughtful.

Speaker 5 Well, cool as a cucumber.

Speaker 3 Cool as a cucumber.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 they are, meanwhile, other people are like tubing and on a boat. And Brooks is like, has anyone ever seen a shark here? And like, Yeah, of course.
He's like, Oh my god,

Speaker 3 that's his most terrified voice.

Speaker 5 No, true. That's yeah, that's when he really is getting in his dramatic moment.
He's like, Oh my god. I wonder if, like, would he scream if he saw a shark? Like, can he scream?

Speaker 3 Well, we did see him kind of let out like a little gasp with the fly swatter because he was trying to swat a fly, and he kind of like tripped. He went,

Speaker 3 so I think that's what he would do. Okay, there we go.
That is good to know. I think he'd say, Oh my god, the shark,

Speaker 5 Gary.

Speaker 3 He would be really bad in a horror movie.

Speaker 5 Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 The dead body.

Speaker 5 But get him in Charknado.

Speaker 3 Absolutely. 100%.
Kim Richards, Brooks Marks, Sean William Williams.

Speaker 5 Yes.

Speaker 3 Let's just do. I'm just assuming Sean Williams.
Where is Sean Williams Scott, by the way?

Speaker 5 Ocean City? We don't know.

Speaker 3 He was like

Speaker 3 an A-list actor who just disappeared.

Speaker 5 That is true.

Speaker 3 Was it like a rehab situation?

Speaker 5 Kids.

Speaker 5 I'm like, pick your poison.

Speaker 3 We'll have to check in on him and Chris Klein sometime soon.

Speaker 3 Check in on our studs from the year 1999.

Speaker 3 Actually, I once went, okay, this is

Speaker 3 off topic. I once went to a book, like a book, my friend had like a book signing or a thing.

Speaker 3 She was reading from a book at a store, and Chris Klein was there there for some reason and he was sitting behind me and he spent the entire time talking to the person next to him about how he acts like how like his method and like how he approaches roles while at your i'm telling you while your friend was doing a book reading no no it was before she started reading her oh oh my god i was sorry sorry but the entire time i kept thinking like i am so privileged right now to be able to have this front row seat to chris klein talking about his acting methods that is beautiful just like presented without comment he was my speaker He was like,

Speaker 3 he was just like, I sometimes just like to really get into the role and really like to consider where they come from and think about the motivation. And I was like, oh my God, thank you.

Speaker 3 Thank you, Los Angeles gods, for placing this man right behind me.

Speaker 5 Your city pulls through when it does. Yes.

Speaker 5 It pulls through.

Speaker 4 LA strong.

Speaker 3 LA really comes through when it needs to be.

Speaker 3 When it needs to come through, it does.

Speaker 3 So, um,

Speaker 3 so George and Riley are talking to uh, well, they, they've ordered like some frozen drinks and George is like, I want to get, I want to go with La Mode, a la mode also.

Speaker 3 Let's get some a la mode cocktail. Okay.
Anyway, my only concern,

Speaker 3 did you notice?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I did notice that, and I was like, what the fuck does that mean? I was like, okay, here we are. All right.

Speaker 5 She always has a new word for everything.

Speaker 3 Yeah, let's go La Mode. La Mode.

Speaker 3 So my, she's saying, my only concern is I love Ariana and I respect her so much, which is her way of saying I don't respect her at all. I just, I don't want to be fighting with her.

Speaker 3 Like, I don't want to, I don't want to fight with a scary girl from the south. That's, that's like unpleasant for me.

Speaker 5 She's like, I'm going to fight with people downtown.

Speaker 5 This is scary.

Speaker 3 And, um, and she's like, what is, so like, what's the sentiment from like Ariana and Hudson and Amir and all them? Are they all just like talking about our huge feud and that big fight we had?

Speaker 3 And Riley's like, Yeah, they haven't, no, they haven't really been saying anything today. No one really cares.

Speaker 5 No one, no one knew you weren't there.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we all drove home, got to the house, partied at the house, went to sleep, woke up the next morning and realized you were not with us for any of that.

Speaker 5 Wow.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Um,

Speaker 3 Ariana, meanwhile, she's going through it because she's like, she's like, I was so fiery last night. And I just, I don't want people to ever feel attacked.

Speaker 3 And I feel like Georgia felt attacked from me last night. I'm like, you're thinking about this way too hard right now.

Speaker 5 Way too hard. I don't know if it was like anxiety or something, but yeah, it really got into her mind when I'm like, this is one of the nights.

Speaker 5 Cause we didn't see the rest of the dinner play out, but I'm like, you guys just said two sentences to each other.

Speaker 3 Exactly. But Amira, Amira uses this as a way to

Speaker 3 like soft launch her feud. So she's like, oh my God, I think you were like 100% valid in what you were saying and what you were feeling and how you were reacting to it.

Speaker 3 And I feel like part of it was maybe influenced by what I told you earlier remember because what happened was i got my burgers delivered you guys remember when i got my burgers delivered yeah it was so she said the she yeah i got my red robin and then she said i guess the ozempics weren't off i mean that is the most classless thing to comment on what someone is eating that is like basic etiquette number one that is something you learn in third fucking grade I was like,

Speaker 5 I don't know if I, that retained to me, but yes.

Speaker 3 I'm like, I don't know if that was like my number one etiquette lesson, but she does have a point. She has a point.

Speaker 3 Obviously, food sensitivities over there in that area. So be careful, Ariana.
I mean,

Speaker 5 Georgia.

Speaker 3 Georgia. But Amyra is basically like, yeah,

Speaker 3 whatever you're saying, Ariana, that was really nice, whatever you were saying. But I'm going to talk about my issues right now.

Speaker 3 I'm going to have a feud.

Speaker 5 But I also think Ariana is like.

Speaker 5 That is some of the reason why. Yes.
Yes. I remember you guys having a fight.
Go on, go on. But yeah, she really did pass the baton.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's one of my favorite things that reality stars do is when they like to pretend like they're they're listening to you to vent, but they're just waiting until they can actually surface their own issue and make it like the center of the scene.

Speaker 5 And I mean, we'll get into it. Amira did it flawlessly later on.

Speaker 3 Flawlessly. Actually, actually, she did it so clunkily that it became flawless.

Speaker 5 That's the thing. It was so direct in such a

Speaker 5 way that it was.

Speaker 3 It was a stretch. She pulls it in in such a stretch, but like the stretch was so beautiful that it, it in and of itself was perfect.
It was heaven.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So she's really on one.
She's like really upset about the food thing. She really goes off and off about it.
She's like, I mean, that's just something you don't say to anyone.

Speaker 3 Like that you don't need to say that to your friends. I just like grow up.

Speaker 3 I mean, she is honestly a little bit more upset about this than any of the microaggressions that happened earlier in the season. I'll be honest.

Speaker 5 That is true.

Speaker 5 Very, yeah. And I don't know if it was a thing because I feel like

Speaker 5 there was a few episodes she wasn't really there. So I don't know if she was like,

Speaker 5 yeah. And then I guess she's like, she's like, what have I done this season?

Speaker 1 Here we go.

Speaker 3 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 But also, like, I think when you're, when you're talking to a model and you

Speaker 3 find out what they're eating, good luck to you.

Speaker 5 I was going to say, because I'm like, I think baseline is hungry. Yeah.

Speaker 5 And also, Red Robin isn't in a city. So a point to Jersey.
Maybe she just was like, maybe she's a huge Red Robin fan and doesn't get it there. And she's like, okay, I'm in a place of ordering area.

Speaker 5 And who, does anyone blame her for being like, I'm good on the seafood boiled gia Judice made?

Speaker 3 Actually, I would trust that. I feel like the Judaices have cooking skills.

Speaker 3 Here's what I, what I took issue with last week that I mentioned. And you know what I have to say? I don't seem to remember a lot of people co-signing me.
And it has been noted.

Speaker 3 It has been noted, but I'm going to say it again.

Speaker 5 I can't wait.

Speaker 3 I thought it was strange that Amira waited all the way until those clams were being poured on the table to announce, I'm just going to order something because I don't like seafood.

Speaker 3 Those clams have been boiling for that's that stockpot has been going for at least 30 minutes. You've had a long time to call your Uber Eats.

Speaker 5 I was confused about that too, because I am someone, because I was thinking in my head, because I didn't know if Amira was a vegetarian. Or no, she's not, because she had a burger, but I was like,

Speaker 5 I can't have a fucking seafood boil. I would have been ordering food the second I walked in and smelled the lobster and everything like that.
So it is a very weird timing of that.

Speaker 5 And also, if I love the way I'm going to the grocery store,

Speaker 3 yeah. I, there was something.
Oh, yeah, because she remember she skipped the grocery store. That's her.

Speaker 5 There's something

Speaker 5 to a grocery store.

Speaker 3 She's like, I hate grocery stores. I hate going into them.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 I think that there she has some food. It seems like there's some food sensitivity.

Speaker 5 I was going to say, yeah.

Speaker 3 It's a food trigger. Food trigger.

Speaker 5 And I feel like, and thank God, because she has a man that stands by her.

Speaker 5 So we love Quiet Kevin, I think his name is. Well, it's Kevin, but

Speaker 3 not to be confused with Mr. Mute.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Kevin's actually there in the house, right? Yes, he's fully in the middle.

Speaker 3 He's white. He's like, he's there.
He's just, you don't really notice that he's there.

Speaker 5 He's the one finance guy, I think, who actually does finance and not crypto.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he does real finance.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 some of them are talking and Brooks is saying that he's like, honestly, I thought that when I was 25, I'd be like married and have like a kid.

Speaker 3 And I just feel like I have so many visions for myself turning 25. And I don't know if I'm going to be able to attain those things.
Isn't this surprising?

Speaker 3 Would you ever think that Brooks wants a child at 25?

Speaker 5 I was so shocked at that because I'm like, I thought his plan was to like gallivan around the world. And I'm like, you have a kid.

Speaker 5 And I know, I guess, like, cause I didn't know Seth and Meredith had the kids like in late 20s and everything like that.

Speaker 5 I'm like, Brooks, what part of you right now screams like settling with a child?

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's, it's just very surprising. I just thought he was gonna be a club kid.

Speaker 5 You know, because also I'm like next gen. I'm like, this is not really, you're about, you're, you're headlining a show that's not really

Speaker 5 having kids mode.

Speaker 5 And he's never, and we've seen him in Salt Lake City a lot. He's never talked about, he's never looked paternal.

Speaker 3 He's still often referred to as like a child. Like, like Meredith talks about him like, like he's a toddler.
Like Ron and I always joke that like Meredith is like, well, it's my toddler, Brooks.

Speaker 5 Like, don't be mean to him. He's two years old.
2,000%. Like he can't eat, like, he's flipping pancakes on well.
Like, I don't know if diapers is there, but I will.

Speaker 3 Let's work on the pancakes first. Pancakes first.

Speaker 5 And then, as Gia said,

Speaker 5 adopter sperm.

Speaker 3 Yeah, adopter sperm. And he's like, what? And Charlie's like, wait, oh, is the sperm thing like where you have like jizz in a cup and you mix it and you choose a random one?

Speaker 3 Like, cause that's dead ass how they do it, right? You guys are laughing, but that's how they do it

Speaker 3 you come in so you guys come in separate cups or like put your dicks in there you touch your lips the same but he's like really

Speaker 3 going to town on this

Speaker 5 discussion yeah i'm like we're diving a little too deep on gay men having babies yeah

Speaker 5 we may need him to to slow down on the seth marks uh parental sessions there but i did love too much off yeah i did love broox's conversation with gia gia's italian boyfriend from jersey and charlie yeah

Speaker 5 that's yeah exactly

Speaker 3 So now back at the

Speaker 3 boat docks,

Speaker 3 Riley and Georgia join everyone. And this is the moment that was in the trailers.
Riley drops her phone and it bounces off an inflatable thing and into the water.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 3 it's,

Speaker 3 I would be devastated.

Speaker 5 Oh, I, the party would be over.

Speaker 3 It would be over. It's done.
But the best part is they're all like, oh my God, wait, call the phone. call the phone.

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah, bro.

Speaker 5 It went to voicemail.

Speaker 5 Yeah, honey, you're sharking.

Speaker 3 It's in your shark belly. It's in the shark's belly.
Who is supposed to answer the phone? Is Jonah going to answer the phone in the shark's belly?

Speaker 5 This kid, mind you, just said he wanted to be a parent. Call a phone that's on under the sea.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 So he, and then I think

Speaker 3 Riley is like, I'll pay someone $1,000 if they'll go find it. So, of course, Charlie, who has no money to his name, because he's like, it's all either gone up his nose or out somewhere.

Speaker 3 He is, he dives in. He's like, well, $1,000, I'll take it.
And of course, he can't find it. And then Georgia goes in.

Speaker 3 And you know that Georgia probably didn't shower for three days after being in that jersey water.

Speaker 5 Three days?

Speaker 5 Generously. And also

Speaker 5 her arriving in a robe that she put back on after going to the football topless.

Speaker 3 What? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Why was she still in the hotel's robe?

Speaker 5 I'm like, oh my God, everything she's doing, it's like random entrances and stuff like that.

Speaker 5 That part really threw me for a loop.

Speaker 3 And no one even commented on the robe. I was like, is she still wearing the hotel robe?

Speaker 5 I think it was just a lot of people sighing and eye rolling. And then she puts on Charlie's white t-shirt.
And I'm like, that'll be see-through.

Speaker 5 Right.

Speaker 3 And then she just

Speaker 3 jumps in.

Speaker 3 So, of course, they don't find the phone because it's

Speaker 3 under ocean. It's it's like it's the ocean and the water.

Speaker 3 The water literally looks like the Manzo's old like BLK water. Like you cannot, you're not going to see anything through it.
Like this is where they get, this is where they source it from.

Speaker 5 I was going to say, that is just bottled up. That, yeah, that really is.

Speaker 5 This is, you know, you still see that

Speaker 3 BLK water around.

Speaker 5 And I'm like, has that been there for over a decade? Like, are they producing more?

Speaker 4 It's been around.

Speaker 3 Yes. You know, that's around, you know, Kyle Cook's original company, Bird Dogs or or Catbird or whatever it's called, Cat Dogs, that's around.

Speaker 5 I would love if like you, Kyle Cook is the inventor of the cartoon cat dog.

Speaker 5 He's like, no, it's still kicking. He's 75.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Those residuals investing into Loverboy.

Speaker 5 Uh-huh.

Speaker 3 Yeah. People don't realize I

Speaker 5 came up with cat dog.

Speaker 5 Why can I say like that's Kyle Cook's dream? Because he could come up with a cat dog. Yes.

Speaker 3 Because he does have cat dog energy. He really does.

Speaker 3 Like he and Amanda are kind of of cat dog together.

Speaker 5 Wait. Now I'm like, wait, now I'm like, cat dog is so cute.

Speaker 1 Wait.

Speaker 3 Next time you see them, next time they're in the studio. Oh my God.

Speaker 5 I'm going to be like, Ben, your friend Ben in LA,

Speaker 5 he says you guys are spitting images of cat dog.

Speaker 3 I don't know.

Speaker 3 Isn't it fun to think that they're like shooting right now?

Speaker 5 Like

Speaker 3 Summerhouse is in session right now.

Speaker 5 I love it. Oh, and I want to know who the new people are that they're saying.

Speaker 3 I want to know, too.

Speaker 3 losing page is a real hard one that's it's gonna be it it's gonna be a pivot i don't really yeah it's gonna be a pivot it's gonna be a pivot you know it's so sad can i say something that makes me so sad I was going through DMs last night and for Watch What Crappens, and I saw that we had a DM from a company back in April that was like, hey, just so you know, we're loosely associated with the summer house finale.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 we

Speaker 3 like, we basically they're like the ones that provided Carl with all those sandwiches. Remember when Carl showed up the sandwiches? They were like, we provided the sandwiches.

Speaker 3 And if you're interested in trying the sandwiches, we'll send you a sandwich platter.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 3 I missed the chance to have the Carl Radke sandwich platter.

Speaker 5 Okay, you did fuck up.

Speaker 3 That's a big fuck up.

Speaker 5 You guys have to be a little bit more on top of the DMs.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 you can't even respond to it anymore. It says your chance to respond is over.

Speaker 5 Oh, I didn't know. I didn't know Internet played that way.

Speaker 3 Well, no, because it was like in the promotional.

Speaker 3 I think it's like a, because it was like a business to business thing or something so like it was a water charlie okay business to business yes it was yeah it was b2b

Speaker 3 marketing yes i missed my chance at the carl red key sandwich platter

Speaker 3 yeah yeah it's it's really devastating really it's like it's as bad as losing your phone in the in the jersey

Speaker 5 but do you have a second sandwich

Speaker 3 I

Speaker 3 would like I would like that that took me a moment there to understand what you were saying there and I get it and I now applaud that

Speaker 3 Don't worry.

Speaker 3 Luckily, I have another sandwich hookup. Oh,

Speaker 5 okay.

Speaker 3 I'll just go to something about her.

Speaker 3 So yeah, wait, so does, I was confused about this. Did Riley just have a second phone on her?

Speaker 5 That's what I don't get. She did.
And she was like, but it wasn't the phone with a good service. I'm like, do you have two different providers?

Speaker 5 And I'm like, so then if that's the case, do they have the same storage and everything like that?

Speaker 5 It made no sense because I'm like, I don't think one's a business phone because your business is DJing.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we can't even talk about that.

Speaker 3 I'm so disappointed in Riley for that. Well, so it's exactly with candy.
I'm

Speaker 3 candy. Yeah, do anything.
Honestly, work at Cats' Deli during the Diplo concert. Like, just don't be, please don't be a DJ.

Speaker 5 Please don't be a DJ. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
It's just not it. It's not it.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 So they're all laughing because she somehow has

Speaker 3 this other phone.

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