#2776 RHOBH S1417 Part One: Bird Brained Carnies

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Speaker 1 Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast for all the crap we love to talk about on Ye Ol Bravs. I'm Ronnie.
That's Ben over there. Hi, Bian.

Speaker 1 Hi, Ronnie. How are you? Good.
How you doing?

Speaker 1 I am fabulous. You know, here we are, midweek, season finale, Beverly Hills.
Very exciting times.

Speaker 1 It really is, you guys um a lot of beverly hills stuff to talk about today we are on tour we're in the thick of it right now the mountain gisteria tour this weekend we are gonna be in washington dc whoa and then followed by that we're gonna be at the philadelphia fillmore okay in philadelphia and in washington we're gonna be doing um southern charm no summer house yes and no no washington southern no what washington is southern charm washington is southern charm and then in philadelphia we're doing Summerhouse, okay?

Speaker 1 You know what? And the following week, we're going to be other places. We're going to be in Boston, Detroit, Chicago.
Chicago sold out. Sorry, okay? You know what?

Speaker 1 You should have got your tickets earlier because it's sold out.

Speaker 1 But then after, we're going to go to Emo's in Austin and the Dallas Texas Theater in Dallas and Las Vegas, which is going to be super, super fun. So get your tickets.
Over at Washington.

Speaker 1 I didn't realize we're going to the Dallas Theater or the Texas Theater because as I, you know, I love to trumpet this that that that when Watcher Krappens went to the Texas theater in Dallas back in I don't know 2019 or so we broke the record for the most cocktails served in one night at that theater and it's the same theater where what's the space was arrested the guy who assassinated JFK

Speaker 1 so uh there's two notches of history in that theater one is that they arrested the assassin of JFK there and two is that watch of crap-ins sold most drinks ever in one night there. So

Speaker 1 big hits. Come be part of history again.
Big history. Let's repeat history.
Come buy a lot of alcohol, but let's not find any murderers. Hopefully.
No murderers welcome. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So that should be super fun. Also, we're doing white lotus recaps over on Patreon.
We did a catch-up just for the past six episodes, but then we're going to do recaps for episodes seven and eight.

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Speaker 1 Okay, so let's get to it. We are on the Real House Wise Beverly Hills season finale.
Wow. And I

Speaker 1 have people. Oh, I'm sorry.
Go ahead. I'm about to say I have people that are angry at me, speaking of Beverly Hills.
I don't believe it.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 You never have people angry at you. I don't believe it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it happens. It happens.
Are you sure they just didn't get us confused? Well, apparently I have the reputation for being the quote-unquote sweet one, the nice one, which is hilarious.

Speaker 1 But no, so yesterday, I didn't even realize that this was season finale because last week ended with a to be continued and there was no next week on the season finale.

Speaker 1 And I didn't see any promo over the course of the week saying anything until yesterday, late afternoon, there was an article about Jennifer Chilley in the New York Times that said that the season finale was tonight and I was like, surely they're mistaken.

Speaker 1 Anyway, the point is this. Bravo posted the reunion trailer on their account, on their Instagram account, like shortly after that.

Speaker 1 And so I was watching the reunion trailer, which

Speaker 1 was very good. And there's one part in it where Dorit is like, she thinks she's the queen of Sheba.
She lives on a main road. And I thought that was so funny.
Just be like, she lives on a main road.

Speaker 1 Like, how horrifying, how embarrassing. And of course, coming from Dorit of all people who like went to like the Dollar Tree with a $30,000 and got robbed.

Speaker 1 And he's literally about to be living on a main road, like on the sidewalk of it. Ma'am.
Yes.

Speaker 1 But to me, it was like, it was so, I literally let out such a laugh because it was such a funny thing to say.

Speaker 1 So I wrote a comment on the Bravo Instagram and I said something to the effect of, in fact, I have it right here. I said, is you live on a main road, the new high body count hair? Meaning like

Speaker 1 a wild thing that a real housewife would say. That's like, yeah, like a new des.

Speaker 1 People did not like that.

Speaker 1 Really? What did they say?

Speaker 1 They thought that I was, well, first of all, no, a lot of people did like it. It got 669 likes.
So, you know what? It was a good comment. It was, it was well received by and large.

Speaker 1 But a lot of people interpreted that that as me being team dareit over team sudden i believe i think they thought i i was like good burn to read

Speaker 1 and so people are like but sudden's house didn't get broken into or um

Speaker 1 they would say things like

Speaker 1 um uh

Speaker 1 not even close or like no you're stupid how could you even be saying that it was supposed to be more like supposed to land more like the wallet comment and they're like criticizing me for even finding humor in this moment to which i say people if you don't find that main road joke funny main road comment funny you have to you have to really reconsider because it was hilarious and i'm gonna say that right now reconsider being a housewives fan you know it's not it doesn't need to be that serious you guys calm you don't have to be on their team like it was hilarious it was a hilarious obnoxious comment so i just loved how many people um were were mad at me about to rigger yeah i was reading facebook comments today just for fun uh just general Facebook comments.

Speaker 1 And God, people on Facebook are way meaner than they are on other places.

Speaker 1 I mean, and it's weird because like on Reddit, everyone's Team Garcell, which, you know, kind of aligns with me more, basically.

Speaker 1 And then you go to Facebook and I'm like, Dazam, people are so hateful there. My God,

Speaker 1 what happened to Facebook? That used to be a fun place. in life.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think like, so, you know, Garcelle left Beverly Hills. She announced it yesterday.

Speaker 1 And the thing is that

Speaker 1 I think that, like, everywhere I've seen, people have been, like, largely very supportive of her. There's like on Twitter, a lot of people are like, what is Sutton going to do without Garcelle now?

Speaker 1 And everyone's like, Garcel should have left anyway.

Speaker 1 So I feel like there's actually been, I've seen a very large ground swell, but I'm not surprised that there are people who are being obnoxious about her leaving.

Speaker 1 Well, no one has been more obnoxious than Erica on Watch What Happens Live. And I have to say, Bose too.
Bose didn't have a great performance on that one either.

Speaker 1 And I've really enjoyed Bose, but I was turning on her pretty quickly last night because Andy had them both on and said, so

Speaker 1 Garcelle announced she's leaving. Any reactions? And they both just sat up straight and looked straight ahead and wouldn't speak.
And then the audience kind of laughed uncomfortably.

Speaker 1 And he said, no reactions. And they just stood straight ahead.
And he said, come on, seriously, you're not going to say anything.

Speaker 1 And Bose was like, well, I hope that she would have stuck stuck it out and Erica said something something like he does

Speaker 1 I can't quote it right I forgot the quote but it was something like

Speaker 1 he he does do it or something like that and I went on a Reddit thread to see what the fuck she said because it was hard to understand and basically people were saying like God listens to your prayers or something.

Speaker 1 And I was like, oh, okay, Erica. God forbid someone ask you about your fucking scammy ass life with Tom Girardi.
And then she said,

Speaker 1 yeah, well,

Speaker 1 Garcell had been on Watch What Happens a couple of weeks ago and said that she married for love and Erica married for money. And that was the difference in their marriage.
So that was like her shade.

Speaker 1 And so Andy asked her about that. And Erica said, well, we both married, we both married two old, ugly white guys

Speaker 1 who cheated on us. And that was like her big diss.
I'm sorry, but you are the only one who married an old, ugly white guy. Compare the pictures, ma'am.
Compare the pictures to her ex and your ex.

Speaker 1 Okay. And also maybe compare the fact that her ex hasn't robbed poor people to fund your stupid, shitty, talentless career, you asshole, Erica Jane.

Speaker 1 And I had to remind myself, kind of like you were just talking about, like, you don't need to be this angry. So I just turned off, watch, watch what happens.
I was like, fuck that chick, man.

Speaker 1 She is, she is vile. She's still vile.
She, I just thought, what a cold cookie. You know, I said, I even, I was so angry, I came up with a pop-up quote.
I was like, that is one cold character.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 Twitter has been coming for Erica a lot because, you know, in the

Speaker 1 trailer for the reunion, there's like something, I don't remember the exact quote, but there's something along Erica says something to Garcel along the lines of like, you're boring or you don't have, like, there's, you're not interesting or something.

Speaker 1 I wish you had been more interesting, she said. Yeah, I wish you'd been more interesting.

Speaker 1 And like spoken from the freezer section. Like, who are you talking about? People online keep on saying, people online keep on saying, like, Erica, your storyline this season was wallpaper.

Speaker 1 And literally that has been like, it's people, like, if you look up Erica and wallpaper, there are so many tweets about just dragging her about her wallpaper. Like, really?

Speaker 1 Like, your storyline is wallpaper. Yeah.
And that was one of the questions on Watch What Happens. He said, you know.

Speaker 1 Sarah from Q's wants to know, how could you call someone boring? You don't share your life or who you're dating. And Erica's like, share my life.
I got divorced on this show.

Speaker 1 I went through my worst worse period on this show.

Speaker 1 Erica, you didn't share shit about that. All you did was you came on and you lied about it.
And then you tried to give Tom an alibi. And then you tried to give Tom a defense by

Speaker 1 amnesia, dyslexia. What am I going for? Dementia.
You tried to get Tom off the hook millions of times. Then you said, fuck those poor people.
I don't care about them. I only care about myself.

Speaker 1 You haven't shared shit except stolen money on this show, ma'am. And I hope Marco Marco continue to ground your ass until there is none left.
You don't deserve shit, Erica.

Speaker 1 You are a piece of shit, woman. You're a nasty, nasty character.

Speaker 1 The tweets are really funny. I mean, one person named Carpenite says, Erica, wallpaper and lines added to your rental.
That's interesting. Okay, girl.
Someone else says,

Speaker 1 so glad Erica is telling everyone Garcell didn't give us anything while she showed us a wallpaper in her rental casita.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then another one of her lines is like, you're going to have to do more than, than buy a beach house in Bakersfield, you know?

Speaker 1 And everyone's like, ooh, well, you know, better than living in a rental that Rush Limbaugh look alike Tom Girardi's friend got you, Erica.

Speaker 1 It's just so funny that like wallpaper has become the thing that has like

Speaker 1 that has that has become the symbol of Erica's storyline because she did a lot of things to that casita, but it's like at the end of the day though, like wallpaper somehow, like, just is the concept that somehow summarizes everything that happened in her season, which is that she put up a big old thing to cover up something else.

Speaker 1 That was it. That's basically an allegory for her entire time on this show.
But by the way, I thought Erica had a great season.

Speaker 1 I thought she was actually like, you know, I enjoyed her this season. And she's, you know, she's villainous, yes.
But I think that I think that she is good.

Speaker 1 However, it really, where where I get annoyed with Erica is, are these moments when she accuses someone of being boring and not sharing when she really has never truly shared.

Speaker 1 She's been the brunt of accusations, but she hasn't shared. We still have yet to meet an actual friend of hers outside of this group.
Like, we don't know really what

Speaker 1 life is like for her other than like stepping into this this alternate persona that goes

Speaker 1 at gay clubs. Yeah.
Yeah, anything, you know? And I think that Garcelle has actually shared quite a bit.

Speaker 1 And, you know, I think we should have seen the writing was on the wall with Garcelle because she is having some success with her movies and she's being way shadier in her confessionals than ever before.

Speaker 1 And she already, she always kind of towed that line, but she

Speaker 1 goes there a bit more, especially in tonight's episode. She's just like, you can tell, she's like, I don't fucking care about these people anymore.
I'm just going to be shady now.

Speaker 1 You know, to be fair, and I'm sure we'll get to it a million times as the season progresses, and especially the reunion, but Garcelle did say stuff that you're going to have to answer for.

Speaker 1 I mean, she was saying stuff in her

Speaker 1 diary room about Darit faking the robbery, about PK faking the robbery, and all of that stuff. So, I mean, of course, you're going to have to answer for it.

Speaker 1 People are going to get pissed, and you're going to have to answer for it. But I just think it's Erica of all people, such a fucking hypocrite.
Yeah. Now, is Garcelle's personal life on

Speaker 1 because Erica got in trouble for fucking yelling at her son, which you should have in the first place, and sending all those bots after her with Rena and Diane or Diana.

Speaker 1 I mean, come on now.

Speaker 1 I mean, is Garcelle's personal storylines, are they boring? Yes. Yes.
They are. We know.
You've listened to these recaps.

Speaker 1 But Garcelle is great, and she's the only one who says the things that we are thinking.

Speaker 1 Sutton sort of goes there, but she usually hedges. But Garcelle, Garcelle says them, and she confronts in a way that no one else does on the show.
And so we'll be missed for sure.

Speaker 1 I agree that her story, you know, her storylines aren't that fascinating. You know, we make fun of like, oh, wow, did you buy a beach house?

Speaker 1 Because for the first six episodes, it was like, I'm so proud that I bought a beach house. You know, like we've made those comments too.
But to say that that makes her boring is silly.

Speaker 1 I mean, she calls your ass out and that's certainly not boring. Without her and Sutton, nobody would have ever called your asses out.
So

Speaker 1 everyone needs to have a compelling story happening, you know, on the side.

Speaker 1 Like I remember when Rena, Rena's first season, I loved Rena her first season, and people would say, but she's got nothing going on.

Speaker 1 That's why she has to do, that's why she has to go and like ask questions about the Richard sisters.

Speaker 1 She's got nothing going on. I'm always like, that's fine.

Speaker 1 I don't need you to, I don't need to focus on the boring side of your life just because it's to show that you have something else going on outside the show.

Speaker 1 I care more about how you, how you mix it up with the women and how you interact with the women. And then if there's something interesting going on in your personal life, then great, show it.

Speaker 1 But like, you know, I don't necessarily need to sit and watch scenes of people making tomato sauce or renovating a home in oxenard yeah so i'm okay with it but the point is i'm okay with garcel having a boring storyline as long as she's like good with the women yeah she brings it in the scenes so okay well that's that that's a nice good referendum but here we are with episode season 14 episode 17 a caribbean send-off so we're in saint lucia we're still on the boat ride from hell sutton is standing there with her sun hat screaming out a window what sea words all these ladies are

Speaker 1 and now she's sitting there waiting for somebody to come comfort her and Jennifer Telly comes over with a glass of water she's like here's sweetie here's the water I'm not gonna be able to do anything today I'm useless today I'm sorry it's okay um so Sutton is still just like going through it and then meanwhile Erica goes swimming you know she's like I'm the only one okay the only water in the world that I get into I don't even go in the Mediterranean okay it's this water caribbean water caribbean i don't do atlantic i don't the pacific i only do caribbean i'm like well thank you for your yelp review on seas of the world

Speaker 1 oceans and seas of the world erica just here to remind us that she's been to every sea in the world you know on poor people's backs so she's like well the pacific you know that was at home i don't go to the atlantic we got a few trips in there off a few burned victims you know i've been to the caribbean a few times it's the warmest water and um that came from royalties off a gas explosion so it's been it's been a great trip around the world.

Speaker 1 So she's swimming in the water and Bose and Garcell are talking and

Speaker 1 Garcelle's like, well, she looks beautiful, but who's going in if somebody, somebody pulls her under, you know?

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then Eric is just still paddling along.
You guys are lame. I'm the only one out here.

Speaker 1 So Garcelle is like, well, Sutton hates her now. And Bose's like,

Speaker 1 well, yes, Sutton hates everybody now. And then they just kind of like laugh.
And we go back to Sutton, who's like, it's like Satan came on the boat and said, this is why you're in hell.

Speaker 1 Let me just remind you. Well, thank you, Satan, because I've forgotten.

Speaker 1 I forgot she said that. And reading it back is so perfectly sudden and overdramatic.
I love her.

Speaker 1 So Kyle is now swimming with her and Dariet's standing on the little boat dock doing that like, I'm just a goil. How am I supposed to be expected to swim? It's terrifying.
i'm a girl

Speaker 1 but she does she does a very poor dive into the water and then um kyle's like oh my god i'm not even gonna buy you a birkin if you get in haha reference to a great season

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Speaker 1 So, um,

Speaker 1 uh, so now Jennifer and Sun are talking, and Jennifer is like, Do you know what?

Speaker 1 It's kind of like when you're on a fox hunt, and the dogs find the fox, and then they're all surrounding the fox, and then yup, yep, yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 1 And the fox is like, Oh my god, there's too many of you.

Speaker 1 And Sun's like, Well, that's how the far, a bunch of foxes on a hunt from Satan, Satan foxes. And Jennifer's like, Well, I'm not surprised that Erica is like criticizing Saturn.
And then we see

Speaker 1 flashbacks of

Speaker 1 of that and Jennifer's like I can see both sides but you know obviously I'm Saturn's friend and I I so I'm going to have Saturn's back and I'm not going to be like Herrick is right you need to but you need to examine your own behavior little missy because I'm on her side Yeah, you know, I'm really kind of astonished at how much girls don't like you, Saturn.

Speaker 1 Thanks a lot, Jennifer. Make me feel a lot better.
Lot better.

Speaker 1 So, meanwhile, back to Bose and Garcel. Bose is like, How are we supposed to be a group if you have two people that are nice? How does that actually work?

Speaker 1 And Garcell is like, Well, let's see. Am I right? She's like, Girl, she's like, Well, let's just see what that looks like.
I'll just say it again, uh, so that way you can take the next line.

Speaker 1 She's like, Well, is that the chairman's reserve talking? Yes, it is.

Speaker 1 Well, hold on, let me give some response to this.

Speaker 1 So, So

Speaker 1 now they're back and the boat comes back and everything and they get all they get off and everything and now they're going to go back to the

Speaker 1 they're going to go back to the hotel and now it's time for a glam montage where they're all sitting in their chairs and Kathy is

Speaker 1 she's she's setting up her own station and doing her whole like everything to her face and it's very exciting for all of them.

Speaker 1 Kathy's iconic moment today, just from a breathless gay point of view, Kathy eats Cheetos. Oh my God.

Speaker 1 god tell your friends about it they're like close up on those Cheetos we need America to know that Kathy eats Cheetos so she's just walking around eating her cheetos

Speaker 1 yes so Bose is like well tonight I'm going for a super celebration Nico and Nico's like mm-hmm because we are going to do a birthday dinner for Erica and Dorit Nico are you bedazzling the wall no Well, then do it because I want everything bedazzled in here.

Speaker 1 So she's basically like, Bose is like, well, morale is low after earlier today. And she's like, I just want to, she just wants to make things fun.

Speaker 1 And so they're going to go to the beach because there's a whole bunch of vendors there. There's jewelry, there's food, there's a still, still, um, still drum band.

Speaker 1 So it's going to be like a whole big fun bazaar. One of my favorite things about this episode is they keep saying things like, well, it was a rough day.

Speaker 1 And then it just keeps cutting back to Sutton, going, What do you fucking want from me?

Speaker 1 What do you want?

Speaker 1 What do you want?

Speaker 1 What do you want?

Speaker 1 losing it

Speaker 1 so so yeah they're gonna go basically street shopping so um she's like i want to reflect the energy of sandusha so then we go to get sutton's hair done and um

Speaker 1 she's with jennifer and she's like well do you think you're gonna be able to have a good time tonight and she's like well as long as i can stay away from those two those two people think i'm a terrible person which i'm not i'll be fine i just wanted i just wanted to restate that i'm not a terrible person Sutton you are so immature it's a painful to watch Sutton I love it I love when Sutton's unhinged because there's nobody in their right mind who can stick up for Sutton you know and that's why you gotta love Sutton she's just so helplessly awful

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, like, I am, I love Sutton, and I'm, I'm, I'm actually, I'm fully on her side, but I also think it's hilarious that she has no sense of accountability of like her contributions to this entire situation.

Speaker 1 Because the truth is, she did, like, she was part of this.

Speaker 1 She did start up a fight with zaret in the beginning of the season right after she made this whole thing about sisterhood and she did call zarita bitch in her home and she like she she is part of this as well but i just but like at the end of the day she's just funnier when she's mad so i'm just gonna take her side because i think all of that

Speaker 1 she's just so immature and you know it's like when there's a baby on the plane you know nobody wants a baby on the plane and then inevitably the baby starts crying and you you see people turn around and give a dirty look to the baby and you're like god i want that to be me i want to turn around and give a dirty look to the baby.

Speaker 1 But ultimately, you, you have to blame the mom.

Speaker 1 So I say, let's just bring Reba to the, bring Reba to the reunion and let's excoriate her.

Speaker 1 This is a case where I just find, I just find Sutton to be a cat-eyed, evil little baby, you know, where she just hasn't matured to the point where I can blame her yet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I, I, I, I love to blame the mom. Although sometimes it's, it's also fair.

Speaker 1 Like at some point, the kid gets a little bit of some of it because when we were flying to Toronto two weeks ago, there was like this awful child in front of you who you didn't really get to, you didn't really see how awful the child was because they were right in front of you, but because I was across the aisle, I had a diagonal view.

Speaker 1 And this kid was probably like three years old and incessantly kicking the seat in front of her. And she was pulling down the tray up and down, up and down.
And she was being loud. She was screaming.

Speaker 1 She was making so much noise. And the mom, like...
The mom eventually handled it, but like she couldn't handle it because

Speaker 1 there were logistical reasons why the mom couldn't handle it, but the mom was also just not saying anything or doing anything. And code, this kid was being wild.
At one point,

Speaker 1 the kid was also like, every time she did something wild, she would smile, like look at me. And at one point, she smiled and she looked back at me.
And I gave this child the meanest death stare.

Speaker 1 And of course, I was wearing a mask. So it was like a death stare, a cross of a mask.
And she likes smiling at me and she locked eyes with me. And then she was like smiling.

Speaker 1 And then she realized I was like staring at her with like rage. And her smile just kind of like just sort of drooped down.
And I was like, in my mind, I was like, yeah, you don't look.

Speaker 1 You get you, you stop kicking that seat and it was like it felt great it felt great to be like i am going to shame this child on some level for kicking that seat so much name him name him name him i was giving her full on sun energy i was like what you have done to me young child i am going to squint at you i am going to squint i'm not going to say anything i'm just going to squint But at about, you know, 50 years and 300 million dollars, you would have been like, oh my God, you are iconic.

Speaker 1 You would have been like, filming.

Speaker 1 Yes. She's just too young to act like this she hasn't earned her bad behavior but once she does

Speaker 1 you haven't earned this yet ma'am okay

Speaker 1 yeah exactly you're just a three-year-old

Speaker 1 so uh erica is like oh my god you know in the sense of sisterhood i thought we could bring everything to the table so i said what i had to say on the boat but you know i don't have an ill will told sutton i'd like for sutton to acknowledge what's going on and that's it

Speaker 1 okay erica you want an apology you're not going to get a fucking apology your Your news story was everywhere. They had to bring it up.
Nobody else had the guts to bring it up.

Speaker 1 And she brought it up, period. That's the end.
And guess what? You handled it terribly and you look like a fucking asshole.

Speaker 1 And the only reason you've had a good this a good season this year is because you shut your mouth and now you're ruining it all at the end. No one feels for you, Erica, okay? Nobody.

Speaker 1 Well, and also don't forget that they set Sutton up to be the sacrificial lamb because they all talked about it behind Erica's back to Reed and Kyle, everyone.

Speaker 1 And Sutton was the one who asked the questions. And then they all just stood back there like, oh oh my God, that's crazy.
And so Sutton took the brunt of it.

Speaker 1 And Sutton was not really the best person to, because she didn't really ask the questions with conviction. She just was trying to be nice about it.

Speaker 1 So then Erica, of course, saw, sense weakness, and then attacked.

Speaker 1 But the truth is that Erica, for as much as she talks about being open and honest and discussing it all, she certainly did not like it when people were asking her questions about something that was happening that was very much in her life and needed to be addressed.

Speaker 1 And yeah, it was just all bullshit. And the other ones did ask her.
I mean, Dari and Kyle did get their licks in there, but Erica doesn't go to that because they still are part of that final,

Speaker 1 the final five, the Fox Force Five or whatever, you know. So that's, they're still writing that.

Speaker 1 So Jennifer Tilley's like, well, it almost seemed very rehearsed because Erica was like, that, that, that, that, that, like a lawyer in a court. Then all of their points prepped out.

Speaker 1 I think there's an alliance between some of the ladies. And when Erica and Dorit go after one person and they dovetail together, I think they planned it.

Speaker 1 And so now Erica is,

Speaker 1 we see a flashback of their confrontation. And so Jennifer's like, it just seems like they had discussed it beforehand and like it's kind of like a little suspect.

Speaker 1 So then.

Speaker 1 By the way, they did discuss it beforehand. We saw it on the show.
So they don't like to call it, we planned it. Like they didn't say, okay, you say this and then I'm going to say this.

Speaker 1 But they did sit down and they were like, fuck that chick. She can do whatever she wants.
Why should, I mean, they talked about it and then they went and did it.

Speaker 1 so i don't understand what the big accusation is that's so offensive to erica later on in the episode you know now to be fair we also saw sutton and garcel literally plan a confrontation about morgan wade

Speaker 1 so you know like

Speaker 1 i'm not going to say what goes around comes around but it's not like sutton is so innocent on this front either um of course their confrontation failed because sutton didn't do her part of the confrontation but well i I think in both situations, it's natural to talk to your friends about who you're pissed off about and then.

Speaker 1 Yes. And say, you know what, back me up, do this.
I mean, so much of the show is like, back me up when I say this. Lily Sutton's whole gripe is that she wants that backup.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 yeah. So either way, they think that there's a coordinated attack and everything.

Speaker 1 Meanwhile, Kathy has announced that she's going to wear a shorts and a t-shirt to the beach thing tonight, which is hilarious because ultimately they all go out to this beach.

Speaker 1 wearing these big, beautiful, flowy dresses. And Kathy's just in a green t-shirt and shorts and a little hat, which is like, that's the sign of true wealth right there.
She's like, uh-uh,

Speaker 1 I don't even have to bother. I don't have to flaunt anything.
I know my wealth. I'm just wear a t-shirt, a free t-shirt, probably.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So Garcel goes to Sutton and she's like, hi, I just, I hope you're feeling better. I just wanted to mention, I don't know if you noticed, but Kyle didn't stand up for you today.
Wow.

Speaker 1 Wow. What do you think of that? And she's like, well, you know, we had a really good weekend in Augusta.
You remember she ate a carb? She ate a carb for me in that restaurant.

Speaker 1 She didn't have to do that. I thought we were going to be best friends forever, you know?

Speaker 1 So to be so set back with Kyle, I've just, I've had enough. I've never had anyone come to me and say, I would really like to apologize to you.
I was tough on you. Never.
They want to break me.

Speaker 1 They've been wanting to break me for years. Let the mouse go.

Speaker 1 And then we have this amazing montage of them just. yelling at Sutton, scolding her and yelling her.
And then when it's not like just like the typical one, two, three beat, it was like a long,

Speaker 1 endless montage that turned into a mosaic on the screen and went on for it had to be like 10 minutes. It was just going and going.
I was like, shut up, Sutton. You be quiet.

Speaker 1 You don't know what you're talking about, Sutton. Sutton, why would you know that you're being such a fucking bitch? And she's like,

Speaker 1 in every flip, it was fantastic. Be quiet, Miss Smalltown.
I'm worried about my motherfucking reputation.

Speaker 1 And the Erica gets into her addiction, you know? Yeah. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Nothing. Shut up.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They may be going.
Yeah, you talk out of both sides of your mouth, too. You know what? Fuck you.

Speaker 1 And also, how are you? Fuck you. But how are you?

Speaker 1 So they are. We just see it.
It goes on for so long that like as I scroll through the flashbacks, it's taking like, you know, as long to scroll through them as it does to actually, you know, watch it.

Speaker 1 So then Sun's like, I just don't want to do it anymore. You know, I just can't do this.
So Garcelle's like,

Speaker 1 well, I'm not saying Sudden is innocent. I mean, has Sudden put her foot in her mouth with a scroop? Absolutely.
And then they kind of like go all the way back.

Speaker 1 And they're like, by the way, here's the greater context for all those clips. We see Sun being horrible in each situation right beforehand.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Which is also great. It's very Rashad.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's very good. So then Garcel's like, you know, but when she's angry, she feels like she's being cornered.

Speaker 1 And I just needed another montage of Sutton literally in the corner being like, name him, name him, name him, name him, name him, name him, name him, name him, name him.

Speaker 1 So Jennifer comes in to talk to Garcelle and she's like, what happened? I saw Sutton running into the bedroom.

Speaker 1 And she's like, oh, we just talked about the boat and, you know, and how Kyle's not supporting her. Like, she supports Kyle.
I mean, I don't know where that came up from.

Speaker 1 Maybe one of the makeup people said it. I don't, I don't remember.
Oh, hold on. Do you have

Speaker 1 just let me leave a voice message for Sutton really quick. Hi, Sutton.
I just wanted to send you my support while you're getting your makeup on.

Speaker 1 And just wanted to note that Kyle's not supporting you right now as you get your makeup done. Thank you.

Speaker 1 Hi, Sutton. This is Garcel.

Speaker 1 I have a message from you. You need to just...

Speaker 1 trust this process and just fall backwards fall backwards into a trust fall okay i heard you just crashed onto the floor noticed that kyle was not there to have your back

Speaker 1 So, Garcelle is like, you know, Jennifer's saying, well, it seems like Sutton just really wants Kyle to like her. And she's like, duh.

Speaker 1 So then Garcelle's saying, you know, she'd rather be loyal to Erica and Doreen before she is to Sutton, but Sutton refuses to see that Kyle is this way.

Speaker 1 And Jennifer is like, it's like a bad relationship or a bad marriage. You think that they've accepted the apology and you've moved on and you're in a different place.

Speaker 1 And then to have it all thrown back in your face and not even get a piece of a cartoon empire. It's just very hurtful.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I think that's like one thing that like is definitely fucking with Sutton is the fact that she will have

Speaker 1 a hysterical outburst, you know, because when she's cornered, she lashes out and then she thinks that she has mended things and everything's okay.

Speaker 1 And then it turns out nothing is mended and they attack her again. And that is frustrating.
Although maybe work on the outbursts too.

Speaker 1 Again, I just, this comes from a place of love because I love Sutton. She's my favorite on the show.
But but she could work on those outbursts.

Speaker 1 Although don't worry about it, because then you're not going to be as good on the show. Yeah, Sutton's just ridiculous.
It's her reaction to everything that's a problem.

Speaker 1 I mean, Sutton could handle these people so easily if she was just like, you know, look how Jennifer Tilley handles it later. She just handles Erica fine.

Speaker 1 And Erica was thinking she's having like a big dynasty moment. Like, now, who said it? You or you?

Speaker 1 So, sorry if it hurt your feelings, but unfortunately, I'm carrying the weight of all these $100,000 bags right now and i don't have time to worry about it poor person i'll donate to planned parenthood or something later any charity that you would like yeah

Speaker 1 um i mean the problem i think the issue for sudden is that at the core of it it's it's that kyle is kind of the queen bee of the cool girls in her mind you know like the fox force five they are a click and and it's not that kyle is more famous because

Speaker 1 because garcella is more famous than Kyle. And then it's like, it's not that Kyle is so rich because Jennifer is wealthier.
It's just that like they have this click on the show.

Speaker 1 And I think that Sutton carries some damage from like high school or middle school where she wasn't in with like the popular group. And she just wants to be accepted with it.

Speaker 1 And she feels like, I'm doing all the things. I'm wealthy.
I'm cute. I'm fun.
Like

Speaker 1 I'm bringing them nice things. Like, why can't I ever be truly part of this group?

Speaker 1 And that's all she wants is to be part of the group because I think it ties back to some sort of high school issue and and that's like a void that is just not gonna be fulfilled and the thing is what she doesn't realize is that for the past few years Sutton Sutton has been actually in the center of the group that we the audience has found to be the cooler one you know when it was Garcelle Sutton and Crystal and then this year it's Garcelle Sutton and Jennifer Tilley like that is the group that we as the audience love and would want to to hang out with more.

Speaker 1 And she doesn't realize that she actually has it all, but I think her own damage is getting a lot of people.

Speaker 1 Well, maybe a portion of the audience, but you know, then you look at her adult life and she was, she became rich, you know,

Speaker 1 because she was married really rich. Not saying she didn't deserve that, but it's like her husband is incredibly rich.

Speaker 1 So she had access to all these things where she was basically going to like the Elton John,

Speaker 1 you know, Oscar party every year and then giving tickets to people like Lisa Renna to try and kind of buy their friendship and be a part of the cool group.

Speaker 1 And then finally, she did it enough where she Renna suggested her as someone to be on the show.

Speaker 1 So then finally, she got into this show and she was always kind of looked at the joke on this show by all the people.

Speaker 1 It's like, you're wealthy, but you're not like, no one's going to pretend you're a cool girl. You know what I mean? And so she never really, she's just never gotten it.

Speaker 1 And how much money does a woman have to pay to be considered a cool girl? But it's not, you know, at the end of the day, you still have to be a likable person.

Speaker 1 And she breaks down at every given opportunity and acts like a fucking child. That's too frightful.

Speaker 1 One thing I really like about Sutton is that she does it all to herself. And as someone who creates my own problems, like generally, I'm my own worst enemy in life.

Speaker 1 Every problem I've ever had has been my fault, pretty much. It's not that I've never been victimized, but maybe I could have handled things better to where I could have lessened the damage.

Speaker 1 You know, I'll give myself that. But for the most part, I create all of my own problems.
And it's a lot to do with attitude and emotion, over-emotionally taking things.

Speaker 1 So I see where Sutton's coming from. So I still kind of root for her, even though, God damn, she makes it hard sometimes.

Speaker 1 No, but that's what also makes her totally relatable, because so many of us do that. And so many of us have like emotional moments.

Speaker 1 And to see her not be able to control her emotions on this show has always been the most appealing part.

Speaker 1 Not because it's funny to like laugh at her because she embarrasses herself, but because it's like she's being, she's very real. I think that she like can't control herself.

Speaker 1 Whereas the other women, you sort of, you know, like you do feel like there is a wall up with Kyle and Erica and Darit to a certain extent. I mean, they do let it out.
They let their wall down.

Speaker 1 They are emotional,

Speaker 1 but it's not the same degree. And that's why Sutton is so appealing.

Speaker 1 And that's why, honestly, someone like Bethany Frankl, for as annoying and awful as she's become, she will always be compelling TV because she can't help but be herself.

Speaker 1 Like she can't, she can't put on airs because she's always going to be a gaping wound. And so Sudden is so relatable in that sense.

Speaker 1 And she'll never be one of the cool girls because she is, she does not have that, she doesn't have that vibe, right? Like she is too fragile.

Speaker 1 She is like, at best, she's gonna be like the the sidekick to the cooler girls, but she'll never be in the in that rarefied air and and she wants it so badly so so badly

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Speaker 1 So the lady is gathered now in Bose's villa, but of course, Sutton's not there because she's being a div. She's like, I need time.
I need time. I need time to think about how I've been

Speaker 1 and excoriated by this group of women. Please, just give me time.

Speaker 1 And so Boza's like, well, there's something the matter. Where is she? And Jennifer's like, well, there's a glitch in the matrix.

Speaker 1 actually kind of the perfect way to summarize like Sutton having a pre-dinner breakdown. It's like, there was a glitch.
There was a glitch in The Matrix. And Keani Reeves was there.

Speaker 1 And Saturn said, Keani, do you want to have lunch? And he said, no, you're not cool enough. She's very, very upset.

Speaker 1 Fun fact, I was in a feature film that was directed by the directors of The Matrix. So what have you guys been doing lately?

Speaker 1 So Sutton, they're just like saying that she's upset. And Erica's like, Phil,

Speaker 1 Sutton is not there because her feelings got hurt. All I did was ask a question.
You know, remember that? How you guys just used to ask me questions? Erica,

Speaker 1 this grudge tour that you've been on this season is getting real old real quickly. I mean, I'm allowed to keep a grudge.
Like, I love keeping a grudge.

Speaker 1 Like, I will hold a grudge for years and years on this podcast.

Speaker 1 But if you're on a reality show,

Speaker 1 the grudges have to move. You got to move on.
Move on.

Speaker 1 Well, especially when the questions she's referring to were about Tom moving all of his $20 million into Erica's LLC for her stupid, pointless career when she can't even sing on key.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? And she's like, but are you blind-sided? And why is the paper saying that $20 million went into your LLC? Have you had any discussions with attorneys about the story?

Speaker 1 And this is what Erica's so worried about. Sorry, you're mad at the wrong person, lady.
Be mad at the person.

Speaker 1 Be mad at yourself for spending all that money.

Speaker 1 I honestly, like, I'm a little offended, Ronnie, that you would say that Erica can't even sing because last time I checked, she sounded pretty good during her warm-ups.

Speaker 1 I saw a clip of her doing Chicago because she's back in Chicago now. Her dancing and her movement and her look is so good.
She looks great doing the, you know,

Speaker 1 then this is her voice.

Speaker 1 I was like, no, you can't do that.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 I mean, if she can have a career just doing, if she can get a career just doing like hand movement, like fossil hand movement, she's got it. She killed it.
And she looks great. But please be quiet.

Speaker 1 I honestly, you know, I make a joke about this a lot, about how Erica has

Speaker 1 been doing the same shtick as a musician for like 10 years on this show.

Speaker 1 And I like no, no art, like no recording artist, no like pop artist or anyone in the, in the lane that she's trying to be in, no one does that.

Speaker 1 People switch it up, they change it up, they change up their vibe, they change up their style, they change up their look, and she's like committed to this one thing and is like, nope, it's gonna work.

Speaker 1 And I'm just like, why doesn't she do something? Why doesn't she do like a burlesque tour? I think she would kill it with burlesque just based off, you know, what you were saying. She looks amazing.

Speaker 1 She feels very burlesque adjacent. She should do like the whole, like what Dita Vantiste was doing, you know, go and just do that.
Like lean into your strengths.

Speaker 1 Like they're still trying to do this whole Erica Jane thing. I mean, yeah, she's getting success from it because she's on this show, but like it just feels like she's just so resistant to lean into

Speaker 1 what she's strongest at. Erica Jane is just one of those people who saw Angeline driving around in her pink, you know, Mustang or whatever.
It's a convertible, right? Is it a Corvette?

Speaker 1 What does she drive around? Corvette, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, her like pink Corvette driving around West Hollywood, opening her trunk and selling t-shirts to the gays, you know, and having her rich husband pay for billboards around town that say Angeline.

Speaker 1 Erica's the only person who saw that and went, that, that's a career that I want.

Speaker 1 That's, that's, that's what I want to do. And she's still doing it to this very day.
So we get back to the scene. And Erica's like, sorry for asking questions.

Speaker 1 And Jennifer Tilley says, well, she felt like everyone was attacking her. You know, Erica started saying about the problems that the group has with her.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, you jumped in quite a little bit to read. And it just seemed like maybe it was a coordinated effort.

Speaker 1 So...

Speaker 1 Oh, oh, so we planned that. This is insulting.
I observed something. I said it.
Bottom line to a face. And now the fact, well, I said to her face after I said to a lot of people beforehand.

Speaker 1 But then, now the fact that your friend is upstairs stomping her feet and won't come to dinner and no one coordinated this. Oh, I don't, I don't, I don't need to rally the troops.

Speaker 1 I know what happened to me, and I know what happened to Kyle, and I know what happened to Darit. And it's not a coordinate attack, it's my fucking opinion.

Speaker 1 She seems way more invested in getting to the bottom of this stupidity than she does in terms of the situation with, you know, her husband and the fraud and the victims.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the only part she's offended at is the coordinated part. She's like, calling me coordinated? Have you seen me rehearse?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 you're the one that said it also seemed like Dorit said the exact same thing at the same time. And she's like, Dari, can you get in here, please? She's like, I'm coming.

Speaker 1 Sudden thinks that what I said today,

Speaker 1 when you said today, what you said today, that that was a coordinated attack. Coordinated attack.

Speaker 1 Yes, it's almost like you knew exactly what I was going to say. Like I knew exactly what you were going to say.

Speaker 1 It's almost like we had written the things down and I said part A and you said part B.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's ridiculous to say that. How dare she accuse us of being coordinated? How dare she?

Speaker 1 Well, first of all, I don't want to fight Sutton's battles for her. She's my friend, so I feel for her.
I just think that she's spiraling right now because she felt ganged up on.

Speaker 1 So then we see Sutton spiraling because she got ganged up on in her makeup chair. And she's like, I have been ganged up on.
And her hairstylist is like, I know, I know, I know, Sutton.

Speaker 1 She's going, okay, I've been beat up enough today.

Speaker 1 Okay, I've been taking

Speaker 1 it today.

Speaker 1 She's like twitching. So then we go back to Bose, and Garcelle steps up to defend Sutton.
Now, she goes, well, you know, she just feels like she's been picked on ever since she joined this group.

Speaker 1 And Erica's like, oh, yeah, well, she's giving it as good as she's gotten it.

Speaker 1 Well, you know, Sutton can dish it, but she cannot take it. Heaven forbid, you put a mirror in front of her face, and she either becomes an immediate victim or becomes borderline evil.
You know what?

Speaker 1 Gee, it's fucking nauseating. I agree with her to a point.
I mean, Sutton can't take it, but neither can you, Darit.

Speaker 1 Like, you're fine with calling her an alcoholic and you're fine with mocking her relentlessly, but the second she says you're a bitch, you act like, oh my God, like you haven't been calling people the C-word all season.

Speaker 1 You act like, oh my God, when am I going to get my fifth apology for this? So come on.

Speaker 1 Well, and think of all the times that Garcel was trying to get through to Darit last season and the season before about things that Darit said that were maybe problematic or like that offended Garcelle.

Speaker 1 And Darit would be like, I'm allowed to defend myself. I don't know why you're coming at me like this.
Everyone says the word attack. I mean, I didn't talk about that.

Speaker 1 And so, like, how dare you say I don't know how to treat minorities? They raise me children. I pay them very well.

Speaker 1 My mother has a friend who is not white.

Speaker 1 So I've given a minority a stick with the cloth at the end to dip into a bucket and drip all over my kitchen floor. Now that's not love.

Speaker 1 So, um, Garcelle's like, Well, I'm not saying she's a wallflower. I'm not saying she's innocent.
I've never said she was innocent, but you also expect her to be perfect.

Speaker 1 And she's like, Well, nobody expects anyone to be perfect. Well, she just, by the way, Kyle, she wants some blind loyalty from you.
And Kyle's like, um,

Speaker 1 Kyle thought she was, she thought, Kyle thought she was on Easy Street. She had nothing to do with this argument.
And she just suddenly got dragged in out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 And she's like, um, this is like so crazy because it was like Erica's argument. And like, now it's my fault.
Hello. I had three lines on ER once.
I don't know how I could be at fault here. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was like, fuck that. She goes, yeah, you know, well, Garcelle and Sutton are both her closest friends and they didn't stick up for her.
So, I mean, what are you on? What are you on?

Speaker 1 You guys are so close and you stay quiet, but it's on me. Come on.
It's a joke. Let's, let's go to dinner.
I'm done with this shit.

Speaker 1 So she storms off.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I like, because Garcelle's reasoning is like, I didn't stand up for her because I was already in an argument with her.

Speaker 1 But you guys are in a fresh argument with her. So

Speaker 1 you guys have to deal with your fresh argument before we get to my argument with her. So that's it.
And then Erica is like, well, don't you remember what Seton did to Kyle?

Speaker 1 And we get to flashback of this horrible thing that Seton did, where she asked Kyle to share about her personal life because she's not wearing her wedding ring, which she was purposely not wearing to get people to ask her about her life so that she could cry and freak out that people asked her about her life.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
So

Speaker 1 Erica's like, why should Kyle be loyal to Sutton? Explain that to me, Garcia. What is the rationalization behind this? I'd like to know.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 then everyone, they're now going to start walking off to

Speaker 1 this beach experience, etc. And they get there and they start, there's like lots of people and vendors and it looks really fun and they're all browsing around, but Sutton's still back at the villa.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 she's like.

Speaker 1 Okay, I decided to come to dinner tonight for a couple of reasons. Number one, I have a very cute outfit that I don't want to waste.

Speaker 1 Number two, I will not let these women get the best of me, even though all they do is honestly get the best of me. I'm going to show them that you didn't break me.
I'm still here. I am not broken.

Speaker 1 I am just very lightly taped together with not even good tape, like painter's tape, the kind of just will come off really easily. So at dinner, you'll see me fall apart a million times.

Speaker 1 I'm going to show these women that I'm strong. And I'm going to do it by walking up to every booth in here and doing this.

Speaker 1 And then I'm going to hit that table and I'll be on the border of a lot of tears the entire time because

Speaker 1 that is the manifestation of my strength.

Speaker 1 So she is taken down there and everybody else is shopping. And Jennifer Tilly sees her first and goes and hugs her.
And she's like, I'm in a shopping frenzy.

Speaker 1 Hey, person, once you have that words off, toxic influences, Sutton needs whatever that is. Oh, I'm sorry.
You're making Sutton back away. Okay, we need it to be a little bit less strong than that.

Speaker 1 I need Sutton to actually be able to stay in the room

Speaker 1 Like here's a lava rock

Speaker 1 no well She's actually already pretty much a volcano. Do you have anything maybe more soothing?

Speaker 1 Okay Satin I'm gonna get this for you cuz it wards up negative energy and you really need to put it on and I'm going to get the tiger eye for me. How much is for both of these?

Speaker 1 So that 80 bucks by the way. No you guys need to haggle.
They saw you coming from a mile off. 80 bucks.
For a tiger's eye necklace. Come on.

Speaker 1 Rip off.

Speaker 1 yeah so sudden's like well i'm not gonna need a crystal bracelet i'm i don't need any armor because i'm not planning on fighting tonight just almost crying instead

Speaker 1 so sutton i went over to go say hi uh wait i'm sorry uh uh that's not i'm reading the wrong person is that a person walking by on the beach hello person saying hi to something

Speaker 1 i went over to go say hi to bills and we walked in the room and i kind of of felt like we were ambushed, you know, and I said, well, Sutton's a little bit upset because, well, why did you say that?

Speaker 1 I was going to play cool tonight. I mean, look at me.
She's playing cool.

Speaker 1 I have to say, Garcelle and Jennifer are kind of riling Sutton up. Every time she comes down, they do, like, you know, Garcelle was like, well, you seem calm now.

Speaker 1 Let me just remind you that Kyle didn't need to be back. Okay.
See, it's not a dinner. I know, but they're also doing what she demands, which is sticking up for her.

Speaker 1 So they're like, okay, while you were away, here's how we stook up for you. You know,

Speaker 1 so Jennifer's like, what? She stood up.

Speaker 1 Stood up. You know, they were all standing there looking at me like, what's going on? And like, they just started saying, like, she can dish it out, but she can't take it.

Speaker 1 And like, she can hear it and everything. And everybody got really riled up.
And Sun's like, well, what have I dished out? You know what? And then Kyle interrupts.

Speaker 1 And Kyle's like, and Sun's like, well, I'm sorry, it's difficult for y'all to understand that if I needed to go to a happy place, everybody else wants to talk about me because I can't a girl go up to her makeup chair and be in peace for once in my life kyle yeah but garcel and jennifer love us i don't know fun to you so what's that about she goes okay are we gonna sit down and do this are you gonna attack me right in the middle of a in the middle of a mall okay this is this is a mall okay do you want to find a a saint license sabaro to yell at me at would that make you happier I'm just telling you that today, like, Erica, like, that was her issue with you.

Speaker 1 And, like, that, like, you'll go after people at their lowest moment. And do you, and do you think that's true? Well,

Speaker 1 well, the reason I kept my mouth, do you think that's true? Do you think that's true? Let me finish. Do you think that's true?

Speaker 1 Hold on, you have to let me finish. Hold on one second.
Do you think there's a fedora over there? I need the fedora. Stop it.
I'm an actress. Jamie Curtis.
I know her. She wants an Oscar.

Speaker 1 So I want an Oscar. Stop it.
Do you? Do you?

Speaker 1 And she's like, Why does Sutton have to repeat things? And then we see, I'm tired of it. I'm tired of it.
I'm tired of it. I'm tired of it.

Speaker 1 Do you think 10 seconds earlier do you think that's true do you think that's true do you think that's true

Speaker 1 they can't do name them because they already did it like 10 seconds ago in a different mod like

Speaker 1 a lot of the sun's greatest hits are coming out kyle's like yes we do think it's true okay yes we do think it's true yes we do think it's true i've got four more to go

Speaker 1 see what i did there um so kyle was for me It was for me last year.

Speaker 1 I mean, okay, so I didn't speak up on purpose because you're my friend and I loved you and I love you and I didn't want to have to go against you. Well, I'm here I am being pummeled.

Speaker 1 So So thanks for being such a good friend, Kyle, who just likes to watch a woman get pummeled by Sabaro Insane Lucia. Thank you.
Everybody, okay, everybody has their moments of being pummeled.

Speaker 1 Oh, nope, nope, five years ago, five years would have been a long time with this group of women. Okay.

Speaker 1 And she's like, yeah, but you're not what you're not the only person who's gone through moments. Okay.
And it's like, well, I'm talking about myself right now. Okay.

Speaker 1 So she's like, oh, wow. So now it's about Kyle.
Right. Great.
Of course it is. Of course it's about Kyle now.
Like she hasn't seen me get pummeled. She haven't seen me get pummeled.

Speaker 1 She haven't seen me get pummeled. Sorry.
You know, if you're too absorbed to see, self-absorbed to see this is about me, we have a serious problem.

Speaker 1 I mean, Sedin's right. Kyle has not, Kyle has gotten heat.
There's been confrontations, but Kyle has not been pummeled. Like

Speaker 1 Kyle has not had people like, like Darreed yelled at Kyle this season, but there's not been like the pile on that Kyle, Kyle has been part of so many different pylons over the years.

Speaker 1 She could hold up a free layer.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she could exactly. But she really has not, she's not had to endure it.
Well, but to hear her say it, she would say, I've been pummeled all season by the whole cast asking me about Morgan.

Speaker 1 She considers that pummeling. Questions are different from pummeling.
So

Speaker 1 I was like, I don't want to do this tonight.

Speaker 1 Kyle. And Kyle's like, well, don't do it tonight.
She's like, well, I can't. Well, I would leave, but I can't.
She's like, well, don't do it. Well, I'm not in a position right now to do this.

Speaker 1 Well, then we're not doing it.

Speaker 1 What are you guys talking about?

Speaker 1 I just don't want every single person on this beach walking up to me and saying, are you okay?

Speaker 1 Pop up, Kathy. She's like, are you okay?

Speaker 1 Everything's okay.

Speaker 1 I'm sick of people asking me if I'm okay. Are you okay?

Speaker 1 She's like, well, I just don't want to be one of the Barbie dolls and look at the shit and not be. bothered.
Damn it. I was going to say bother.
Why'd you have to finish that line for me, Kathy?

Speaker 1 Yeah, she's saying, I just want to be one of these Barbie dolls. Can I just be a Barbie doll for a night? And she goes, okay, well, you look like one.
She goes, well, thank you. That's all I wanted.

Speaker 1 Well, happy you came. You know, Barbie had a mental breakdown, too, just so you know.
I saw the film. She did get a vagina at the end, so that was fun.

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