#2774 RHOA S16E03 Part Two: Mommy and Mean

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Speaker 2 This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, well go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe so that way you always get your episodes.

Speaker 2 But enough of that, let's get right back into the episode.

Speaker 1 So, um, she's like, but Dennis, he's been so professional. I mean, the songs are paid for.
And Kenny's like, uh-huh. And you're being talked about like you're a whore.
Have some self-respect.

Speaker 1 And she's like, what? And Cynthia goes, oh, no, not a whore. A hoe we can rock with.
A hoe is almost a compliment, but a whore that's very bad.

Speaker 2 So then they start talking about Shamia and Cynthia's like, by the way, Angela, have you spoken to Shamia since she kicked it off? I mean, and Angela's like, no, Shamia went hard on me.

Speaker 2 And Drew's like, well, we did hang out. And they say that, like, they got into like a little thing.

Speaker 2 And Angela's like, you know, I just asked Shamia, like, why did you ask her that question in front of the group? And then she just went off.

Speaker 2 You know, she said, well, I didn't ask Drew if she fucked Dennis. I didn't say that.

Speaker 1 And Ken's like, huh, she 100% said that.

Speaker 2 Am I crazy?

Speaker 1 And she didn't say that. She said, is it true that you are dating Dennis now? And so we come back, and Cynthia's like, well, I'll never hear that.
Wow. Wow.
How did it end?

Speaker 1 And Angela, she says that she just stormed away. Now Shamia is mad at her.
And she's shocked. And she's like, Well,

Speaker 1 someone's like, First of all, Portia doesn't need anybody to help her. Oh, Cynthia says that.
She's like, She's fine. She'll gather somebody if she wants to.

Speaker 1 And she goes, Well, I will say, Portia reached out to me the day after Shamia's birthday and she said, We need to talk. So that's where we are now.
She said, Let's do this somewhere you can afford.

Speaker 1 Please pack a sandwich. We'll just stop at a park.

Speaker 2 So Cynthia is like, well, I'm really good with this.

Speaker 1 Baby daddies.

Speaker 2 Yeah, different.

Speaker 2 So now we go to Shamia's house where she's catching up with her sisters, Tawana and Glenda.

Speaker 2 And I'm starting to get a little nervous that as

Speaker 2 our, is it going to be that every time we go to Shamia, it's going to be like her with her family just like talking about shit, about family stuff?

Speaker 1 Like, I'm just going to be like, well, she's like the sad dramatic stuff, you know?

Speaker 2 It's like, listen, I know she's gone through a a ton with these kids, and I think we all support her, but I'm like, oh, is it going to be that like every time we go to Shamia, it's like, and then today, I've been going through so much, my child.

Speaker 2 I'm like, I don't know if I could go through a crying over my child thing every single time we go to Shamia.

Speaker 2 Like, it's getting, I know we're only three episodes in, but it's getting a little old for me. It's real old.

Speaker 1 You're like, could your kid please heal quicker? Because you're eating into my children. It's real.

Speaker 2 It's real. So, you know, it's real.
But also, like, every time we go to Shamia, it's it's kind of this, and I'm like, I don't, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but there's a lot of real stuff that happens in life that I don't want to dwell on. I just ignore it.
That's why I talk about this all day.

Speaker 1 I don't want to talk about your real stuff and your real pain. Okay.
FF, fast forward this. So that's what I did.
So good luck to the kids. I hope they're.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Basically, it's that her daughter needs to get her tonsils out. And she's like, now her tonsils have to come out.

Speaker 1 I'm like, well, I had to rewind that because she made, this was such a dramatic thing. She survived.

Speaker 1 First, what happened with Shiloh? And we know that that's really dramatic. You know, she's like, and all this happened with Shiloh.
My other daughter just doesn't want me to go to the hospital.

Speaker 1 No, I'm trying to copy him again. Can I even do this again? And now Shia has to get her tonsils out.
I was like, tonsils? I was like, what? Shimia.

Speaker 1 You have to build on the suspense. Like, Shia needs something worse.
You know what I mean? You can't go from the devastating Shiloh news to tonsils out. I mean, come on.

Speaker 1 I was actually glad that it was just tonsils, but I was like, I know, me too.

Speaker 2 Like, ultimately, it is good. That's just tonsils.
But she talks about how her sisters have been there for her. And when things were really tough

Speaker 2 with Shiloh and everything, her sisters would like pick up, you know, like Shia from school. And it's just basically like, it takes a village, yada, yada, yada.

Speaker 2 Very nice, kind of boring, but like, great village. We love it.
I want to see more of the elevator.

Speaker 2 And she's her journey is.

Speaker 2 It's boring.

Speaker 1 Okay. So next scene.
Now we go over to Angela and Charles, the grumpy ass husband I need. Now, I've been thinking about all these properties that they have.
This is too many properties.

Speaker 1 Because she's obviously just starting out where she's like, now is where I prove to Charles that I can actually handle his money by buying five houses at a time. Like, no, it's too many houses.

Speaker 2 One, this, this house that I'm going to welcome America into has an open concept, but then a staircase in the middle of the concept that goes down to hell.

Speaker 1 Like, where would it look at a secret room?

Speaker 2 And then like a staircase right in the middle. I was like, what? Why is there a staircase? I think that staircase was, it was originally not an open concept, right? And there were originally walls.

Speaker 2 That staircase made sense where it was, but they clearly took down

Speaker 2 the walls. And it was just a big open room with a staircase in the middle of it.

Speaker 1 No, I've seen those kind of staircases before where it's just like a big rectangular hole in the floor and then they put a railing around it in the middle of the floor. It makes no sense.

Speaker 1 I hate that style. I can't believe they kept that.
Like if you're going to get a house and redo it, you need to put a proper

Speaker 1 proper staircase in.

Speaker 2 That's just a staircase now.

Speaker 1 Like, what do you, what are you, a fire house? You know what I mean? Get a pole. What do you, huh? What do you, what are you?

Speaker 2 Drew Sedora singing?

Speaker 1 Do it right. Ralph's just down there.
He's like, I'm almost finished installing the light switches down here.

Speaker 2 We call those Ralph ladders.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 Angela is like schlepping in all this heavy stuff. And then finally, like, Charles shows up.
And she's like, well, thanks a lot. Like, now that I've taken in all the heavy stuff, he's like,

Speaker 2 so

Speaker 2 they go in, they bring all the stuff inside and everything.

Speaker 2 They look around the house and she's showing him all the stuff that she's done she's like look you know look at what i've done here we see before and after you know it's like a yeah it's like a nice house a perfectly fine house they didn't do that

Speaker 1 let me just say she did it wasn't that drastic of a before and after fix the stairs you could you got to fix that so um

Speaker 1 now we find out she wants to vow renewal and he's like fuck man i'm exhausted i'm old why do i have to do this she's like you have to we're on a tv show now it's my turn so then she tells us this sad story she tells us what made him sad in the first place You know, we get his origin story.

Speaker 1 So at 2017 in Madison Square Gardens, that was a rough time because Charles was attending a game and the owner doesn't like Charles. And so he called security to escort Charles out.

Speaker 1 And that was right when they were married. And then he needed time to heal.
I was like, damn, that's getting kicked out. How many places have I been kicked out of? I'm fine.
Well, maybe I'm not fine.

Speaker 2 She kind of like played it down because I remember actually when it happened. It was kind of fun.
What happened?

Speaker 1 Tell a non-sports gay what this means.

Speaker 2 I'm hazy on it, but like he was in there and he did get kicked out. It like made like news.
It was like, it was like it was trending all over Twitter. It was on the news everywhere.

Speaker 2 You know, all the, all the, everyone on ESPN was all like, you know, a buzz about it. It was like, it was a thing.

Speaker 2 I don't really remember the details of it, but I know that people were shocked because Charles Oakley is like Nick's royalty. And so for him to get kicked out of MSG just was like, it felt like rude.

Speaker 1 But I don't remember all the details around it but I just know it was like okay well here it is there wasn't we have AI thankfully um why did Charles Oakley get kicked out of MSG Charles Oakley was ejected from Madison Square Garden and arrested oh she she missed that part it was the after an altercation with security guards stemming from comments he made to Nick's owner James Dolan and was subsequently banned from the arena

Speaker 1 Yeah, during the Knicks game against the Los Angeles Clippers, Oakley, who had purchased a seat near Dolan, allegedly made comments directed at the owner. Security approached him.

Speaker 1 An altercation ensued with Oakley being escorted. Charges, he was charged with three counts of assault and criminal trespants.
Pantsing. Trespants.

Speaker 2 He pants.

Speaker 1 James Dolan. That was awkward.

Speaker 1 He took down the pants at Madison Square Garden and he went to jail.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I feel like there was like more to it. Like it was, it was enough of a media kerfuffle that it was not just like, oh, he just got kicked out and that's why he was sad.

Speaker 2 Like I think that there was probably some like media stuff.

Speaker 2 There was more to the story. I just don't remember.
And I didn't know.

Speaker 1 Oakley has since filed a lawsuit against MSG and Dolan, alleging assault, battery, false imprisonment, and defamation.

Speaker 1 But the case against him is assault and harassment. And that was dismissed.
So

Speaker 1 he has not attended a Knicks game since and remains banned from MSG. So, you know, I mean, I get it.
He didn't get to go see Adele, you know?

Speaker 1 And now, and now it's been a rough time.

Speaker 2 And he's put his rage, he's put his rage or his frustration or his sadness. He's put his emotions into making large batch amounts of corn on the cob.

Speaker 1 He's decided that now he's going to design homes that if he ever has Nolan over to his house, he can push him down the stairs more easily. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Jan Zolan's standing right there.

Speaker 1 So she says that this like made him really depressed and then it was really rough. And, you know, as you do when you're with a partner who's going through a rough time, she was like, fuck this.

Speaker 1 I'm out of here. Call me when you're happy again.
So she left him and then waited for him to get happy again and then got back together with him.

Speaker 1 That's my kind of girl. She's like, and when he needed me the most, I said, fuck off.
You're depressing. Call me when you're happier.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 2 now they're going to do a battle renewal, which means that we have about nine months left of this relationship. And

Speaker 2 then we have, and then she's talking about how she's going to therapy and he's like but that's he's like that's three three thousand dollars a month you know how many corn cobs you could buy with that god you should love you should love your therapist is that a discount and she's like why are you against therapy he's like well you should you should at least have a 20 off when you go that often isn't there like a punch card you get

Speaker 1 that is

Speaker 1 though right i mean how much that is a lot

Speaker 2 she says it's only about 1200 a month so that's probably like 300 a session four sessions a month i'm gonna i'm gonna say

Speaker 1 God, get a fucking lap dance. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Get a stockpot and some corn cobs and work it out that way. It's a lot of peanut M ⁇ Ms, is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 So they decide that they're gonna sell these houses first, but she doesn't like it because she just bought five. She's like, oh my God.
Okay, so now Drew goes to talk to her lawyer.

Speaker 1 This office is considerably lower rent than Porsche's. I felt bad for her because Portia had the most glamorous Porsche, the most glamorous lawyer scene we've seen.
And Drew, you know, it was sad.

Speaker 1 It was more Drew.

Speaker 2 Poor Drew, she didn't even get a chance to go to see Randy, the official divorce lawyer for all cast members of Atlanta. And she

Speaker 2 just didn't get to ride that big elevator to a glassy window. She was with Tanya, who, as it turns out, I loved Tanya.
And I loved how Tanya.

Speaker 2 Tanya was shady. And

Speaker 2 I thought she was great.

Speaker 1 Tanya was great because the other guy was like, oh my God, Portia, I love having you in my life. And I was like, Randy, you got put it back in your pants.

Speaker 1 What a weird fucking thing for a lawyer to say. But Tanya did not.
She's like, okay, so sit down. I've got a lot of folders here.
She was like, kind of Tyne Daly.

Speaker 2 You know, she's like, all right, I got folders here.

Speaker 1 Just have a seat. Then you go through this shit, Drew.
All right. You've got you're willing to pay me $5.
I'm giving you five minutes. Sit down.
We're going through this. All right.

Speaker 2 She had TDE, Time Daly energy. She really.

Speaker 1 So, but then we find out.

Speaker 2 So Drew.

Speaker 1 From the show with Amy Brannigan, where Tyne Daly was a social worker. is what I'm seeing.

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Speaker 2 As we always should.

Speaker 2 Technically, I did mention it was Amy Madigan, not Amy Brennerman, but Amy Brennerman. Oh, who's Amy Madigan? On the spectrum.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 But I think that's... I like to tell people when they're on the spectrum.
Amy Brennerman.

Speaker 1 They tell you.

Speaker 2 Amy Brennerman and Amy Madigan. Well,

Speaker 2 they're both Amys. Look, look up Amy Madigan.

Speaker 1 You'll recognize her. No, I looked up.
I only care about Amy Brennerman. Okay, so wait.
Amy Madigan. Okay, I'm going to look her up.

Speaker 2 She's just in things.

Speaker 1 Madigan.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Oh, no.
She's no. Let me tell you who she's no.
She's no Amy Brennerman, but she was an Uncle Buck, so that's something. Okay.
So anyway, Drew goes to see Time Daily Energy.

Speaker 1 And Drew's like, you know, I just didn't know the hearing was going to go like that. I mean, Ralph didn't have a lawyer, so he represented himself.
So he had to cross-examine me. That was horrible.

Speaker 2 Bravo. Where were the cameras? How did you not let us see Ralph

Speaker 2 cross-examining Drew in a court of law?

Speaker 2 This is one of the biggest fails. This is up there with the Bolo Knight.
This is up there with the Orange County thing we just recapped where they didn't have the cameras up.

Speaker 2 Like, this is up there with the black eye with Heather Gay. How do you not have cameras on Ralph representing himself in court?

Speaker 1 And I know that the show was on break when this was happening, but still, you should, you should still have people there.

Speaker 1 Like that movie that they did where they filmed it over a kid's lifetime still just comes out. Boyhood? Yes.

Speaker 1 Like that.

Speaker 2 Ralph Hood.

Speaker 1 Ralph Hood.

Speaker 1 The journey together.

Speaker 2 We needed to see, we needed to see Ralph doing lawyer cosplay.

Speaker 2 So then Tanya's like, it was actually a confirmation of all the things you've ever said about him and his controlling and manipulative nature. You know, and you've been doing this for a long time.

Speaker 2 And we followed in 2023. And, you know, we have a hearing coming up.
And she basically says that

Speaker 2 he has been like, like they needed documents from Ralph. So that way they know how much like he's going to pay.
And so he hands it over a giant stack of documents.

Speaker 2 And then when she looked through them, like almost all the documents were Drew's documents. And so he just handed a big stack.

Speaker 2 So it looked like he was handing over a lot of documents, but he didn't actually hand over any of his own documents.

Speaker 1 He doesn't do anything. Ralph doesn't do anything.
His businesses were writing a book about fatherhood, about her son. And then

Speaker 1 what else did he do? He tried to produce music and he played music at church. What else did he do? He just said financial a lot.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And then

Speaker 2 also Tanya says, I love, this is my favorite thing that Tanya does. She goes, so now currently the divorce file is sealed.
So only the judge knows what's in it.

Speaker 2 So if it gets unsealed, well, like for instance, he's a serial cheater. He's taken money out of your account.
He's been sexing with other women and how other women have been sending you messages.

Speaker 2 He was following you. He was tracking you.
That's all private and confidential and will only come out to America if this gets unsealed. And no one will ever know about it.

Speaker 1 And I think she's saying that like, okay, like, let's threaten Ralph. Like, we're going to unseal this if you don't give us the documents, right? But then Drew makes it about herself.

Speaker 1 She's like, but all I care about is my kids reading and, you know, all that coming out is scary. They know.
They know this shit. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 I mean, I would think that they would know this by now. And it does suck for her kids.
It does. But Ralph's a fake

Speaker 2 monster. I just love that.
I just love that the lawyer pulled the classic housewives move, like the, the, you know, like, oh, well, I never told anyone your secret that you did X, Y, and Z.

Speaker 2 She's like, this is all sealed and confidential. And she's like blurting it all out on camera.

Speaker 1 All your darkest, deepest secrets will never come out. Like this one, that one, this one, that one.
Are you still rolling? Okay. Do you need another take? Do you need it clearer?

Speaker 1 And then Drew's like, thank you so much oh god keep me crazy i almost made it without crying and tiny's like you did you almost did it but you failed yeah she's like ah drew sorry i'm just still method you know i finished a film in puerto rico she's like get out your five minutes is over fuck out of my office

Speaker 2 so now shamie and shaya go to the doctor um they of course you know if you're getting your tonsils out you get a ride in the rolls so they ride this giant ass roll shaya is like so teeny tiny in the backseat of this giant car um and it's really cute.

Speaker 2 They like pull up to the hospital and Shia's waving at her doctor and they bring her in. She goes into surgery.
And then

Speaker 1 Joe. Jimia does like a little TikTok in there or something where she's like,

Speaker 1 guys, you know how a husband's stressed? He stands up in the waiting room. Look at my husband standing up.
Honey, show him standing up. Look at him over there.
That's because he's stressed.

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Speaker 1 I did not agree to this.

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Speaker 2 Then we go over to Portia and Diane. They're going to get a massage at a place called Massage Heights.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 1 Why would you put something stressful to people? Like, that's a common fear. It's like massage spiders.

Speaker 2 Maybe it's just what the cast of the Heights is up to these days.

Speaker 1 Massage

Speaker 1 small spaces.

Speaker 1 You know?

Speaker 1 Massage agoraphobia.

Speaker 1 Why would you make the word massage in with like a common fear? It's so weird.

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Speaker 1 Massage Heights? Sounds fascinating.

Speaker 1 Okay, so

Speaker 1 Portia, so they're just making small talk, but then they start talking about how hard it is for Portia to deal with everything that she is dealing with with Simon, who seemed like such a good person.

Speaker 1 How could Simon not be a good person?

Speaker 2 We also get our annual disclosure from Portia about her mom, which is, my mom, she's my confidant, my support system, my prayer partner through this divorce.

Speaker 2 I'm like, we know she's been on the show for like 10 years now. You don't have to keep it, you don't have to keep pitching your mom to us.
We get, we get Diane's role in your life.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, Portia is saying this is harder than her first divorce, which that's another time she was locked out of the house. Remember, Cordell locked her out too.

Speaker 1 So, Portia, first of all, Portia needs to learn to just get a locksmith.

Speaker 2 That's that's a good thing to see.

Speaker 1 And then also

Speaker 2 Better Taste in Men. Better Taste in Men would also be helpful.

Speaker 1 Well, that would be helpful. But yeah, I guess the Cordell thing,

Speaker 1 that was easier because Cordell communicated with her, which I find odd. But this one, there's no communicated.

Speaker 2 Cordell was like, Icon queen. Yes, I'll get this divorce.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's like, we're getting a divorce everywhere else, but I'm still a huge fan. Huge fan.
Can you get me these autographs for me?

Speaker 2 Can you sign these papers for me? She's like, like,

Speaker 2 there's no place for me to sign. I know, I just want your autograph.

Speaker 1 This has nothing to do with the divorce.

Speaker 1 So she's like, you know, normally you'll have a conversation, but I even reached out to his pastor, which I mean, listen, Simon is going down for fraud, lying, stealing,

Speaker 1 you know, a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 But I'm sure he still goes to his pastor regularly. Like if you really, I just went straight to the religion.
You know, I'm sure it goes deep with, I'm sure it goes deep with Simon.

Speaker 2 Yeah. She also tried to reach out to his family, and she explains that, like, in America, you know, if you're going to break up, essentially, a marriage, you file for divorce.
But in Benin,

Speaker 2 the culture is you actually go through the family and the family like works it out and intervenes.

Speaker 2 And she was hurt because she went to the family and the family was like, just deal with the American legal. We don't want to deal with this.
So she was like really upset about that.

Speaker 1 You've been married five minutes. You're not going to turn five minutes of your life into 10 years of mine.
bye

Speaker 1 they're like you're not the first person this has happened to we we're not getting involved this time yeah here's right so now she's talking about shamia and she's like i can't believe shamia you know because i was like um

Speaker 1 isn't this where she's telling oh she she told me that she met with kelly and brid and they were talking about me and i'm like this isn't fun you know i don't want to hear about all of these hating women and diane's like well why would she want to tell you everything that somebody's been saying i mean that shouldn't do She shouldn't do that.

Speaker 1 That's hurtful, poor shots.

Speaker 1 Very hurtful. So even Miss Diane's going to come on here and promote the storyline that Shamia did something bad.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and she even says, she even says something to the effect of like, well, you always have to question the dog that brings the bone.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, fast forward to the reunion, Shamia saying, you called me a dog. Your mother called me a dog.
I know that's what's going to happen.

Speaker 1 But also, just as far as that saying goes, the dog that brings the bone is a good dog. Yeah, it's a good dog.

Speaker 2 It's like like training it's like doing like the most dog thing it's like

Speaker 2 the dog that dog has actually succeeded because there are a lot of dogs that just dig holes and there's no bone in sight sometimes sometimes dogs just dig it in a floor they'll go to a carpet and it'll just start pawing away i'm like you can't even dig there you're just this you're a stupid dog but like a dog that actually finds a bone and brings it to you

Speaker 1 like buller doesn't bring a bone if i throw a bone he will go pick up the pick up the bone and then stare at me across the yard and be like, come get it, bitch. Come fucking get it.

Speaker 1 And what if the the dog takes the bone to another person? That's not loyalty. If a dog brings you the bone, that's a good dog.
I'm just saying. It's a bad thing.

Speaker 2 It's a bad thing for you. It's a good job description.
It's like, it's excelling.

Speaker 2 You know me, we just had a whole discussion about dogs. But if a dog brings the bone, it's like, well, you know, what more could you ask for, really?

Speaker 1 Like, what do you think? Yeah,

Speaker 1 buy you a car. Yeah.
So they're trying to make this a thing with Shamia, which I don't like. I think it's unfair.
So then we go to the dog. Bumble.
Bumble. Bama.
Go to bumble. Bamo.

Speaker 2 all right let's go to bomb so um uh succession music the succession music

Speaker 1 or as karen would say successions

Speaker 1 music

Speaker 2 So Kelly's like, I'm hosting my event at Bama. This is my mommy and me event.

Speaker 2 I cannot wait to see all the ladies, all their children, because for some time, one of my dreams has been to raise some sort of awareness for osteogenes imperfecta.

Speaker 2 And I'm just super grateful that Balmon would partner with me for osteogenes imperfecta foundation. And I was like, okay, I don't know what that means, but I'll just hold and I'm sure I will be told.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 Kelly, they all start to show up at Balmont, and she's very happy to do this mommy and me thing. Part of me is wondering when all the kids arrive, is Kelly just going to ground them all?

Speaker 2 Because that's kind of what her tagline is saying. She's like, thank you for all coming to Balmont.

Speaker 1 You're all grounded. Goodbye.

Speaker 1 So all the ladies start coming and Portia's like, oh my God, my makeup artist is Drew's makeup artist. And Kenny's like, yeah, you already told me that.

Speaker 1 She's like, yeah, well, so he told her that she was that he was coming to me and she slowed down in the lane so that he just got to me. She did it on purpose.

Speaker 1 So it's basically Drew's fault that I'm late.

Speaker 2 So then Cynthia arrives and

Speaker 2 she has a fun wig on. I don't know how you describe it.
It's kind of like a mushroom, mushroom thing, but it looks great. It's like a joystick.
I call it a joystick.

Speaker 2 And I loved it on her and uh other people are showing up and cynthia's talking to porsche and she's like girl i know this has been hard i just went through a regular divorce and i can't imagine having to go through all the back and forth and dealing with that whole social media thing luckily no one on social media cared about my divorce so i never had to worry about it becoming a topic of conversation And she's like, this is someone who was around baby hot dog.

Speaker 1 This was someone I trusted.

Speaker 1 And he completely turned into a monster. Who would have funk? She's like, yeah, you know, don't keep it together.
Pusha, if you don't have to keep it together, don't keep it together. Be weak.

Speaker 1 Be weak if you need to be weak.

Speaker 2 There could be good days.

Speaker 1 There could be bad days.

Speaker 2 But you know what? You take the good, you take the bad. You take them both.
And there you have

Speaker 1 the choice to it. The choice to it.

Speaker 2 Wait a second. Those are two different shows.

Speaker 1 Even I know that. There's a time you got to grow and show you know you're growing.

Speaker 2 And now you know.

Speaker 1 I'm out, Joyce Dewitt.

Speaker 1 I'm out Joyce Dewitt.

Speaker 2 Well, since I'm a completionist, I might as well end on this note. Portia,

Speaker 2 if you ever any ever had any, if you ever have any issues, come and knock on my door.

Speaker 2 Come and dance on my floor.

Speaker 2 We'll be waiting for you. Where the kisses are hers and hers and his.

Speaker 1 Please come with me, too. Thank you.
So then Angela is talking. She's like, well, I need a scene, so I'm going to fight with Shamia.
You know, I'm going to work this out.

Speaker 2 Sorry. I just loved looking at your face while I was doing that whole thing.
You're just staring.

Speaker 1 I was reading notes. I was like, where do I just go?

Speaker 2 To me, I was like,

Speaker 2 just cracked out.

Speaker 2 Cynthia talking through Three's Company. I just see your face like, okay.

Speaker 1 I was like, if I contribute to this, if I contribute to this, we're going to start the judging Amy theme. I know it's coming.

Speaker 2 You just have this look on your face like, just don't say anything. Let Ben get through it.
I just pulled a muscle on my mouth. Just let him know.

Speaker 1 Let him play it out.

Speaker 2 Just let it. Just let it.
It's like a flame. Just let it just go.
And then we'll see.

Speaker 1 I didn't want to bring family ties in. I just saw a lot of things coming down the pike that I was like, how long do you need this recap to be?

Speaker 1 So, no, I was just reading notes. So then

Speaker 1 they're talking. So Angela basically announces to Cynthia.
She's like, do you think I have time to speak with Shamia? And she's like, oh, I forgot about Shamia. I was trying to get Porsche together.

Speaker 1 Auntie, Cynthia,

Speaker 1 where do you need me? Do you need me to support you with Shamia?

Speaker 1 So now Shamia, so Porsche is like, have you talked, Shamia, have you talked to that angela girl? She goes, oh, the one from the 90s? She came from a block party in a time capsule with a retro nose.

Speaker 1 Like, oh, no.

Speaker 2 I was like, what? Porsche goes, came in from a time capsule. And Shamia, she like sucks in her nose and everything.
And she's like, yeah, it's a little petty, I know, but I welcomed you into my home.

Speaker 2 You ate some of my cake. And then you're going to come here with a nasty mouth.
I've got nothing for you.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I didn't know how I felt about the nose shaming, but I did,

Speaker 1 even though I've done it for like an hour in this episode already. But I did.
I'm not shaping. I'm not nose shape shaming.
I'm nose sound shaming. But I did love the, um, wait, what did I love?

Speaker 1 The nose shaming. Oh, I love the actual nose impersonation that she did.
I've never seen anybody do that.

Speaker 1 Like, she literally sucked her nose so hard that the sides of her nose just like went straight in

Speaker 1 and became a skinny nose. I don't think I've ever seen anybody do a nose impersonation before.
So I'm going to hand this one to Shamia.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was pretty low down,

Speaker 2 but it was funny too. So Brittany, the store director, is like, hello, everyone.
I'm Brittany, president of local Bambon.

Speaker 2 And I just want to say it's been such an honor having all these children in our store getting their fingerprints and their juice boxes all over our expensive couture.

Speaker 2 Thank you so much for bringing these little rugrats into BAMA.

Speaker 1 Please buy things because I'm desperate for sales, desperate enough to do charities that allow children in. So please, please buy it for us.

Speaker 2 So Kelly

Speaker 2 explains what this charity is for, and she explains that basically osteogenous imperfecta is brittle bone syndrome and or disease, which is really, and she says three of her kids have it, which is really like that's, I saw, I saw a documentary somewhere along the way in the past few years where someone was had it.

Speaker 2 And they talked about like, you know, just constant surgeries, constantly breaking their, their lip, like their limbs and bones. It's like, it's a really scary and difficult disease.

Speaker 2 So no, I saw that documentary.

Speaker 1 It's, it starred Lawrence Fishburne. No, not Samuel Jackson and

Speaker 2 Unbreakable.

Speaker 1 Bruce. Yeah.
Bruce.

Speaker 1 So she tells it, and this is actually a crazy story because

Speaker 1 her kid was getting broken bones so much that she was taken to the hospital and they kept the kid there because they thought the kid was being abused by the mom. So this was really, really crazy.

Speaker 1 And she's like, and finally they found the disease and they understood what she had and she's back with me and she's completely safe now. She just has kind of an irrational hatred of Bruce.

Speaker 1 But otherwise, she's doing great. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Man, that is, I got it. My heart goes out to those kids.

Speaker 1 That's really that's crazy, isn't it? That is such like a random disease that the kids have.

Speaker 1 That's insane. Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 I feel bad that they have to.

Speaker 1 I didn't know that was even a real thing.

Speaker 1 I really did just think that was from that film.

Speaker 2 No, it's a real thing. And, you know, I feel bad that they have to live with that.
But at the same time, I'm sure they have found ways to do it and everything.

Speaker 2 And it's not about pitying, but it's just like, man, that is hard.

Speaker 2 So then Drew arrived.

Speaker 1 That's why the kids carry 17 purses. They have to have cushioning.

Speaker 2 So Kelly does this whole speech that it's very moving.

Speaker 2 And it's like, you know, you're like, damn, like you have a moment where you do have to, like, amidst all this, you say, wow, like these kids are, they have to deal with a lot, these kids, and they should not have to deal with it because they're kids and they're dealing with a lot.

Speaker 2 It's a very, it's a, it's a halting moment and it's beautiful and lovely. So of course Drew Sedora misses the whole thing.
So somehow Drew

Speaker 2 Drew Sedora, who had first dibs on the makeup person, then somehow winds up showing up later after Portia.

Speaker 2 She shows up 66 minutes later and misses the whole important, the whole point of this entire bomb on event was this speech by Kelly. Shitty.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So she comes and they're like, have you spoken to Portia? Are you going to fight with Portia today? And Kenny's like, oh, she's right there. You know, you can't miss those hips.
Come on.

Speaker 1 She's like, well, if I talk to you, then okay. I mean, I'm just fine.
I'm just not going to force anything. Okay.
So now we get the Angela versus Shamia.

Speaker 1 So she's like, hey, Shamia, I think we got off on a bad foot, you know? And she's like, yeah, yeah, we did.

Speaker 2 We should. I think we got off on a bad foot.
Angela's like, well, that's just not the temperature of the room that I like to operate in. And so if there's any time that we can talk, and then

Speaker 2 Shamia's like, well, I would love to talk. And I would love to meet Angela, not Drew's representative.

Speaker 1 And she goes, okay, well, that was Angela who you met. That was.
And she goes, oh, really? So you speak on Drew's behalf? And she goes, I will if I want to.

Speaker 1 And she's like, Okay, well, then we don't need to talk about it because your feelings are what your feelings are. And she's like, Okay, and so are yours.
And she's like, Yes, and so I'm cool on you.

Speaker 1 Thank you, thank you,

Speaker 1 you are dismissed.

Speaker 2 And just like, oh, you're cool on me. Be nice then because you're a mean girl.

Speaker 1 Okay, you're a mean girl, girl.

Speaker 2 And Shami goes, Actually, you're the mean girl. And she goes, No, you're a mean girl.
It goes with your name, Shamina.

Speaker 1 You're a mean girl.

Speaker 1 And Shamia doesn't get it.

Speaker 1 She goes, Actually, my my name is shamia she goes right which is why i said shamina she's like no that's not my name my name is do you need to see my driver's license okay what i'm trying to describe to you so you have three syllables in your name sha me uh and if you add an n at the middle one it becomes shamina do so do you see why the the name actually fits but that's my name and i will not be called by any name other than my own she's like oh my god not only are you being an asshole you're being an unfunny asshole she's like well i will not speak to you i'm shamia

Speaker 2 so shamia goes back back to the nose thing. And she's like, well, if you don't take it on back with that 99 nose, then don't do that.
And she's like, okay, Flava Flav, you need a clock.

Speaker 2 Like, it didn't even make sense to me. I just thought, like,

Speaker 2 at that moment when she said it, it didn't make sense. I just love that.

Speaker 1 She's like, okay, Flava Flav, you need a clock.

Speaker 2 And so then.

Speaker 2 So Angela explains. She's like, you know, Flava Flava.

Speaker 1 I laughed so hard. This is the things being brought up in this episode.

Speaker 1 We've got Rick Ross. Now we've got Flavor Flavor in his big clock.

Speaker 1 What does she call Shamia Flavor Flavor?

Speaker 2 I was like, okay, I'm officially on Angela's sits high the rest of the season. She already has one of my idols from the 90s.
So then Angela explains that Flavor Flavor.

Speaker 2 She's like, you know, Flavor Flava is one of the biggest hype men. And I feel like Shamia is the loudest one in the room.
And Porsche is Chuck D. And I mean, she just shows up and collects her check.

Speaker 2 And Shamia does all the hard work.

Speaker 1 Oh my gosh. So she's like, oh, really? Well, we're taking over for the 99 and the 2000 with that nose.
And Kelly's like, ladies, ladies, we need to know how to act in our environment.

Speaker 1 What is happening here? This is a bottom on.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And Shamia's like, well, she needs some glue to get her nose back down. And Angel's like,

Speaker 2 can someone get your nose out of Porsche's ass? And Kelly's like, um, okay, everyone, we're just let's chop until we drop, right?

Speaker 1 Here at Ba Mah.

Speaker 1 I like that it cuts to Portia and Portia's like, uh-uh, I need lawyer money. I'm not buying nothing.

Speaker 2 Smart.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 Britt's like, wait a minute, I heard nose. What the fuck is happening over here? And Shamia's like, oh, she's trying to read me about asking Drew a simple question.
What I said was, are you dating?

Speaker 1 Are you what thing? And Angela's like, oh, really? Well, if she goes there, I would go there.

Speaker 2 And Portia's like, Shamia, you did talk about someone's nose. Like, that's a physical feature.
And Shamia's like, well, she called me Flavor Flaves. So we're even.

Speaker 2 Angel's like, and then Angela's saying, You know, I'm so calm. You know, my husband would be proud of me because I'm so calm.

Speaker 2 And Shamia says, She explains that she was flavor-flavored Halloween, which maybe that was the true origin of the reference.

Speaker 2 And she goes, Well, I was flavor-flaved for Halloween, but I just didn't know that Angela was going to be Latoya Jackson today.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Then it got to Angela and I was like, Well, that wasn't too far off.

Speaker 1 So, Britt's like, I don't want to laugh, but she does kind of look like Latoria Jackson.

Speaker 2 I just love that they're just going into these like pop culture references of the 80s and 90s. It's like, that's all I need.

Speaker 1 And Kenya, who a few weeks from now is going to post naked pictures of Britney with dicks hitting her face or something. We haven't seen it yet, so that's just a rumor.

Speaker 1 Is like, but wait, how do you insult a girl's nose? That's not right.

Speaker 1 Morally, where does that come from? And Porsche's like, why are y'all stuck on the nose? I mean, she called her flavor flavor. I mean, tit-fit-tat.

Speaker 2 Ladies, are you serious? You guys should have, you know, you guys should have saved that for the parking lot, not for inside.

Speaker 1 Bama.

Speaker 2 We don't do that over here in Phipps. You do that in Lennox, but not in Phipps.

Speaker 1 So now the party is going on and Shamia is telling Drew, thank you for hearing me out. And again, I apologize for the other day if I embarrassed you.
That was not my intention.

Speaker 1 And Drew's like, I appreciate that. I appreciate that.
You know, I wore my Avana wig. It was a very important wig.
And to be, to be dressed down wearing an Avana wig, it's very difficult.

Speaker 2 You know, I'm sorry, Shamia, if you can't hear me, I was screaming all weekend on set for a horror movie in Puerto Rico, so I have to speak a little quietly.

Speaker 1 I would have a more emphatic response to this, but my voice is gone after my method acting in Puerto Rico.

Speaker 2 I was in Puerto Rico, Puerto Rico running from a killer.

Speaker 1 It was very, very scurry.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 then Kelly says, announces to us that they raise about $30,000. Well, people spend about $30,000.
They raise a lot of money for the charity and everything.

Speaker 2 And then Drew goes up to Portia and she's like, Portia, you said you wanted to talk. And Portia's like, yeah, no, I'm feeling good this week.
So I'm not feeling good. So let's do it next week.

Speaker 2 And Drew's like, but we can talk now.

Speaker 1 It's like, no, rather not.

Speaker 2 And everyone's like, oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she's doing the Craig where she's like, we're going to talk on my own time. I am a business person.

Speaker 1 So then we see the kids.

Speaker 2 Oh, sorry. Well, Porsche explains why, because then she says, you know,

Speaker 2 she was like, I want to talk to you. And I was like, oh, you want to talk now? Where's this audacity coming from? And then I look back and the Audacity is behind me with braids.

Speaker 2 I said, oh, her sister's here. She brought Heavy D out.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to get into this with you, people.

Speaker 2 It's like every just one 90s reference after another.

Speaker 1 Heavy D, just

Speaker 1 doesn't even.

Speaker 2 Oh my God. Like calling Allison Heavy D.

Speaker 1 I don't even, like, it doesn't even.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. Yeah.
So she's like, I'm not even about to get into this with two people on me. So Drew's like, I mean, girl, you texted me that you wanted to talk and now you don't want to talk.

Speaker 1 I mean, you can definitely come to the studio and we can have a conversation, but in a song, I don't know. Will Dennis even be there? Probably.
He's supposed to be executive producing this album.

Speaker 1 Oh, my bro, who's only my producer and not my friend at all. And Porch is like, um, get me out of here.
And Kelly just says, that's a wrap. I'm sorry.
Can we just do that work waffle?

Speaker 1 And it's a waffle.

Speaker 2 It's a wrap. It's a waffle wrapped around a sandwich and bomb.

Speaker 2 And that was the end of the episode. So I was cracking up.
So funny.

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