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And now we are going to talk about Orange County.

And I've got to say, Ronnie,

people are mad at this season as these dumb hookers' fault.

Okay.

Everyone's saying this season's so toxic.

This is, it's, we're getting an audience reaction like we got for New Jersey.

And first of all, I want to say, audience, be careful because I know we're all annoyed at this Katie situation, but like.

Overall, I actually think that Orange County is in a really good place.

I think it's like a really good cast.

And let's not spook Bravo into doing too many things.

However,

if this is a quote-unquote toxic situation that Bravo's like, we got to like shuffle some people out, I think, is this finally going to be the thing that gets us, Gina and Emily, out the door?

Because

I think they'll never go.

They're not going to go.

They're not going to go.

No, they're going to keep them.

Yeah, I just, I think that

if heads roll because of this season, if like the perception is that things are too toxic and Bravo feels like they've got to make some wholesale changes.

I think they did it to themselves.

They did it to themselves.

It's one thing, okay, Katie's a liar.

She's obviously, Katie obviously lied.

Okay.

But the fact that they are, they're crucifying her for it and they won't even shoot with her to the point where she has to leave the show.

And then that's the toxicity right there.

And you guys are going to do it to yourselves.

You're trying to shoot Katie off.

And now some of you guys may lose your jobs as a result of it.

Congratulations, you idiots.

Well, they're all lying.

Gretchen lies in this episode.

I mean, Katie's lies aren't worse than theirs.

And I believe Katie when she said that Gretchen and Slade said that.

So, I mean, I don't know.

You know, they're just, there's so many lies in it.

It's really hard to keep them all straight.

There was literally a point last night where I just grabbed my head and said, what are we even talking about at this point?

It's like, she said this and you said this.

And 12 years ago, you said this.

But then they're showing a timestamp of 12 years ago, but then it's 13 years ago.

And Tamara's like, but remember when I sat down with Slade and I apologized?

And I was like, yeah, but that was a year before this other clip where you were saying mean things i mean it's just my timeline i'm exploding my head is exploding it's too much it's too much but i'm enjoying too much still enjoying yeah nope what i gotta say yeah also i have to ask you a question that has nothing to do with orange county i'm sorry everybody to derail it recap so quick go ahead

should i befriend the baby bobcat that's living outside because i really know

I want to be friends.

The bobcat is living outside.

A bobcat kitten.

Is that what you call them?

Kittens?

Where?

I saw saw it yesterday for the first time i was playing piano in the window and there was a little baby well i thought it was i mean i thought it was a lion it looks like a lion it's like a little baby and it has spots on it it's like obviously wild catches of it i tried to but it got away i was so shocked to see it well first i thought it was a mountain lion but those don't have spots So the only other option is bobcats.

And I didn't even know we had bobcats here until we went to Ann Margaret's house and she had a sign that says bobcat crossing.

And I was like, we have bobcats.

and so I looked up do bobcats have spots and they do and they live in the hills so I have a baby bobcat but then that means there's other babies and possibly a mom protecting the baby but and it's not a it's just not a kitten no it's not a cat it's like a wildcat I would not so I would not personally

I would not befriend it because if there is a mama mama may come calling and I think we don't go near that also I think it's a wild animal so I don't think you should befriend it but it's so cute let nature take its course.

Well, get a kitten then.

I just don't think.

Those are in my house.

I want this one outside the house.

I want to be like a human.

I think you need to be able to get it enjoy it from outside.

Have you seen Monique from Real House Isaiah Potomac?

She's been walking around with these little baby hummingbirds that keep coming to her and coming right to her hands and stuff.

She's like magic.

Wow, that's my joy.

I want to be like that with baby bobcats.

We have hummingbirds on our patio.

We have a little hummingbird feeder.

And I've seen people do that.

And I would love, I don't know how you do that.

Maybe you need to have essential oils or something.

They don't come to our hands.

Well, also, like, we have, there's like a bunch of green hummingbirds, which are sweet and lovely.

But then there's this one big orange one who I've named Gil.

And he just comes and he always scares everyone away.

He's like very territorial about the feeder.

And I'm like, that's such a Gil thing.

Like he's the guy in the office who just like walks into the break room and everyone has to scatter.

And so Gil ruins everything.

So I think any chance I would ever have of like befriending a hummingbird, Gil ruins.

Well, but if I made friends with the bobcat, the bobcat could eat gil.

You see and then you'd be a you'd have hummingbirds and i'd have a killer bobcat on my side

you're not bringing you're not bringing the bobcat over to our patio to kill but gil okay i will i don't like i don't like gil but i will protect gil i'm not protecting fucking gil gil okay you should take a picture of your bobcat next time you see have you seen it more than once i try to no i just saw it yesterday it was just like hang like walking around the hill and i was so shocked to see it and of course i was like hi you know i was like talking to it and it wouldn't turn around because the window was closed but i um tried to get a picture but i just got a picture of the bush so anyway the point is we're real housewives of orange county season 19 episode 9

uh which is also kind of known as befriending the bobcat because everybody decides to be nice to tamara again which i don't really get but here we go

here we go

so um

We start off and we see like the recap of all the crazy stuff from last week and Kay being like, Kendall, I'm done.

I didn't lie.

I didn't lie.

I never said this.

Oh, did you see the conspiracy theory from today about Katie?

What is that?

Okay, this is this one.

Honestly, I think this is ridiculous.

So, Katie, the new conspiracy theory is that there is a, there's some account out there that's saying that this is somehow Sheena's fault, which is, oh, yes, I did see that.

Yes.

This is my favorite conspiracy theory, and I think it is 100% not true.

I think it's pretty

true.

Because Katie is doubling down.

Katie clearly told Kiki.

Okay.

Like Kiki has said it.

I believe Kiki on this.

I don't think Kiki, like, I just don't think this is,

I don't see why, it, like, why Kiki would cover for Sheena if she heard it from Sheena.

But the theory is that Sheena and Gretchen are really, really good friends.

And it was Sheena who told Kiki

that

that Gretchen said that she was roofied.

And Kiki is saying it came from Katie.

I don't think Kiki has any motivation to set up Katie in that way.

That's just, it's too far-fetched.

Okay.

I am I am on Katie's team, but like Katie is messy.

She has had a history of lying throughout the season and she just she just didn't do it well.

And she's she just I don't know.

The Sheena theory, it's entertaining, but I just do not believe it at all.

Well, yeah, because even if she did tell Sheena and Sheena told whoever, she still told Kiki, right?

Like, we know that she, she admitted that she went and hung out with Kiki and told her stuff.

So I don't, I don't know.

But like, but the theory is that like Katie didn't, Katie's not the one who said it.

It was

that maybe Kiki got the, I guess maybe Katie's saying like, I told her about the hospital thing, but I never said Roofie.

And maybe Sheena's one who said Roofie.

But either way, why do we keep, why are we, why are we also discrediting the messy daily mail reporter who got in the middle of all of this, who's somehow not in any of the, like, not in any of the online discussion, even though it was outed by Tamara?

Well, and then Tamara said that she, Tamara said the reason that she came out with it on the show was because

the Kiki told the Daily Mail and the Daily Mail told Dave Quinn and Dave Quinn called Tamra.

So that's kind of the chain that they're setting up.

But at this point, like, who believes anybody on this show?

I really don't.

At this point, I'm just trying to calm down and enjoy the show because it's too much.

It's outrageous that this stupid like Daisy chain of gossip is something that's going to get someone like kicked off the show.

Like that's what's the true outrage of it because this is all so stupid.

And it's also very par for the course of like lies and rumors that go

around.

And like this is going to be like, you're going to drive someone off the show because of this when there's been like so much lying over the years.

There have been so many worse offenses over the years.

And this is what you're all going to rally around and say, I I don't feel safe

with this woman.

Let's concentrate on the real evil here.

If we're going to go back all the 13 years to Naked Wasted, that was when they went out of their way to get Gretchen as drunk as possible, to have Ryan follow her into the room.

Ryan was pouring those drinks too, and then have Ryan follow her into the bathroom and try and have sex with her.

took him a long time to take the no as well.

So that's kind of the crime here.

And the fact that Tamara has wormed it into her now being a hero of the season, because it's so funny how this show works.

So you've got Tamara, who is the one who brought this on camera.

No matter what you say about everybody else and who they told and who they gossiped with and who they did this to and who they blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

It was never brought up on the show.

The one who brought it to the show was Tamara.

Okay.

Yeah.

Tamra was the one who did it.

So then it got Katie villainized and then it got Gretchen villainized.

And now it's turned around to Tamara becoming friends with Katie, who's now the most popular person on the show because of all the bullying.

And now that is leaking off on Tamra.

So now Tamara and Katie are looking like heroes in this whole thing.

And who started this whole thing in the first place?

Fucking Tamra, dude.

Fucking Tamra did.

And the way that she's wormed this around to making herself kind of a hero now in the comment sections of this show is just fucking hilarious and somewhat magical.

Like, I mean,

it's because

it's crazy.

It's because you got two dumb dumbs in the mix, Emily and Gina, who have like,

they're on this righteous campaign and it's blown up in their faces because honestly, I don't.

Although Heather's been good about not letting it blow up in her face, but Heather's way behind this too.

I think Heather, I mean, Heather, I don't think, I think Heather's just like, I don't think Heather is not like Katie since last year when Katie came for her.

And, you know, Heather's like, well, you know, I don't know if Heather would have been like, I'm not going to shoot with her, but Emily and Gina are on the righteous campaign.

They're the ones who seem to be on a righteous, and Shannon too.

But Shannon's also like, that's just Shannon.

No one would, no one really ever takes Shannon's righteousness seriously.

But Emily and Gina, I feel like, are really aggressively against Katie, despite anytime Gina's like, I really can't feel you.

I was like, really trying to make it happen.

And I was like, really trying to give you a shot.

It's like, no, you really weren't.

You can say that you weren't.

And it's, and if anything, if you have to blame one person, I really blame Emily.

I think Emily has gone above and beyond.

She ranged an entire polygraph party just to bust this girl.

And

it's,

I don't know what my point was.

I think I'm just ranting.

Just, I'm just going for it, you know?

Emily's stupid.

That's, that's the, uh,

that's the conclusion of today's episode.

Oh, gosh.

Okay.

So we start in Emily's living room, uh, and they're still talking about the lie detectors' flashbacks from last week.

She's like, she failed every single question.

And Bangs, the examiner Bangs, is like, yeah, your body reacts to questions in a different way when you're lying.

Yeah, we get it.

You're also a paid paid actress and we know.

Very poorly paid, I would assume, bangs.

Shut up over there.

And also you're a bad actress because no lie detector is like, that lady's lying her ass off.

You are shame on you.

I hope you are being shamed in the lie detector community that you're not even a part of, really.

I hope you go from the polygraph community to the monograph community because it's just going to be one of you.

I think bangs.

I know people will be

poly bangs.

I know people will be very interested in us actually starting this recap, but guess what?

I've got something else to say, which is that in the wake of all this, there was a lot of discussion about how polygraphs, like a proper polygraph takes like two and a half hours.

And like, you're just not going to get anything realistic from like the short, a short polygraph.

I don't know how long they were up there, but it definitely looked like people were up there for 20 minutes, maybe.

And like you can do a targeted polygraph

that's like about a very specific, narrow range of questions, but even that's gonna take well a while but even with all the we know that it's bullshit from what we've seen on the show without even knowing that this guy's been on a million shows rents out his services blah blah blah everything that is brought up later in the show by katie we know for a fact that it's bullshit because we saw gretchen lie in it and um no one even cares like gretchen lied in it and she passed the test so we know that the test is full of shit you know even disregarding everything we know about the current justice system where these are not even admissible in a court of law because they're full of shit.

And Emily, who's working for the Innocence Project, trying to get innocent people out of prison,

still like sitting there,

you know, waving the flag for a polygraph is ridiculous.

Right.

People were talking about that online that like

polygraphs are known to like really not be reliable and are often used, you know, against people.

And if you're on, and yet she's like, she should know this as someone who's an advocate for the Innocence Project.

That's like a big thing that people were talking about.

Yeah.

So, um,

Tamara's like, well, and you wanted, I thought you did say that you went to the hospital, Chris.

Maybe when we were in the car, we were driving to see crocodiles or something.

I think you said that you went to see, you went to the hospital or something.

Don't you remember?

She's like, no.

And then we see the flashback where Gretchen says in the back of that car,

well, the next day, yes, I did go to the hospital.

Trying to whisper it behind the seat.

And she's like, because I was so sick.

And she's like, no, I said that I was sick.

I should have gone to the hospital.

That's what I said.

And Shannon's like, oh, well, that doesn't mean that you are roofied.

If you went to the hospital, I mean, I go to the hospital.

It doesn't mean I've been, have I been roofy?

Maybe I haven't been roofied.

I don't know.

A roofie is good.

So

after we get the flat, after we're done with the flashbacks of what happened last week, we then land in a really exciting scene, which is Emily and Gretchen getting testosterone injections.

So they're here at this

at Asandra MD, and Emily's like, this is the appointment that Shane always has on the calendar.

Like, don't forget your testosterone appointment.

Because I've been getting testosterone implants.

So it's like this rice-sized thing that they stick in your butt and like, not in your butthole.

Let me clarify.

I'm hilarious.

And it just makes a world of difference.

My workouts are better and I want to have sex with Shane.

Oh my God, what are they putting up there?

Fucking

Molly, like what kind of drug do they need to put inside of you to want to have sex with Shane?

I get the bio tea, which is what they're talking about, these little um testosterone pills.

I just got mine last week.

That's why I'm talking like this this week.

Hi, everybody.

Welcome.

Yeah, so I get those twice a year.

I just got mine last week, and I can guarantee you right now, I do not want to have sex with Shane.

Okay, so I don't know what kind of magic pill they're putting up her ass, but nothing is that strong.

Yeah.

So then

Gretchen is talking about how she,

she's like, she's like, yeah, testachon is great because all you want to do is like have sex all day long.

And then she's like talking about how, let me see a flashback of how she broke Slade's penis because she wanted to have sex too much.

But then she also explains that there is a machine that will straighten the penis after it is bent.

So like, really, it's just so many medical, medical miracles that we learn about on this show.

I didn't even know all this stuff could happen to wieners that you could break on.

I did know about this.

You did know about broken wieners?

My friend was dating a guy with a broken penis and it was

an issue.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like if you like that.

Like you could get it like, because it could like, yeah, because it's like when stiff, it could kind of get kind of like, think about like a straw.

You know, if you like, you break a straw, or like, you know, or like a piece of my God.

All the turtles that have this washed up with penises sticking out all over their face.

They're like, stop penises.

I mean, stop penises.

They're killing the turtles.

You don't let, don't make me think about straws.

I'm still upset.

Yeah.

So, but you can fix it.

You can fix it.

And that's great to know.

So Slade is back up and how can you fix a broken wiener, but I've had the same stock for two months and had surgery on it.

I mean, the world is just not fair, really.

I'm going to go get a penis put in my eye.

I'm just going to have a penis sticking out of my eye.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because

when it comes to men's sexual health or just health in general,

there will be a priority to fund research on that.

Don't you worry.

Like, who needs your eyes?

Don't you worry.

Let's get his penis working.

Okay.

Do you know how many broken penises there probably are in Congress right now?

They have fast-tracked all the research on that.

Who needs your eye?

You can just feel around with your penis.

Okay.

So, yeah, we get to hear about Slade's broken wiener.

And then

Gretchen still is talking about his wiener.

I do not want to hear about Slade or Shane and their sex.

I just don't want to hear about it.

So

they'll need to know.

Emily's like, so after my Persian New Year party, I hope that Katie's gone.

You're such a monster for making a Persian New Year party such a trash event.

Shame on you, especially with your father-in-law in the hospital.

And you're supposed to be celebrating Persian.

Would your Persian father-in-law be happy that you're using this to ostracize my spicy Asian dared?

That's right.

Yeah, no, it is pretty shitty.

I don't know enough about Persian New Year to know like what it symbolizes and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

But it seems like across the board, most cultures' New Year's are like, let's celebrate coming together, moving forward, opening new chapters, yada, yada.

I don't think like, I don't think most New Year's celebrations are like, how can we run someone off of our TV show?

But that's what she used it for.

Although, I guess we should maybe circle back to Shaw's Sunset because they had some pretty toxic moments.

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Gretchen is like, yeah, as far as I'm concerned, I'm not going to be around if she's around.

And Emily's like, yeah, in the end, like, you and Tamara had like a long hog, so remember?

Which, by the way, I love Gretchen okay

being around Tamara.

But God forbid, Katie, Katie says this thing to Kiki Monique about a passing comment about something something that happened 14 years ago.

You will not film whatsoever.

That's where she draws the line.

Come on, give me a break.

Give me a break, Gretchen.

So we see a clip of this, this long hug.

And Tamara is saying, Thank you.

Thank you so much, Gretchen, for taking the time and going to meet with Kiki.

So, yeah, well, I needed to, because I needed to know for myself.

Well, thank you.

Thank you for getting to the bottom of the Gretchen.

Come here.

Give me a hug, my little friend.

I'm so glad you're free now.

I'm so sorry you was dragged into this.

You know, after I, you know, got you waiting, had my son follow you into the bathroom, then I had to try to have sex with you instead for fun so you could look like the cheating slut that you are.

Thank you.

Thank you for the 50K and Gretchen.

Well, that was like very interesting that she was like, thank you for like going and finding out the truth.

And I appreciate that you see that.

But I was also like, this wasn't even for you.

This was for me.

Yeah.

So Gretchen is saying again

something she said about 9 million times over the years.

I'm cautiously optimistic that the hug was sincere and that we can maybe, you know, like, you know, I don't know.

I just hope I could trust it.

However.

Then we're back in the waiting room and she's like, you know, I want to ask Katie if she even feels remorse.

And Emily's like, here's what we need to do.

We need to do a beach party.

Then we see a flashback to Jen saying, guys, I just, thank you so much for answering my call.

I just have a great idea.

I want to have a party, a party in a public place, a beach or something that I don't have to, you know, cook or clean or cater.

I don't know.

I was hoping it's between a parking lot and a beach, but I don't want to have the same, I don't want to have a party in the same location that my gym was located.

So beach it is.

I love this innovative idea for a real household of Orange County doing something on the beach.

They've never really done that before.

So Emily is like, can we go to handle where our minds mind's at right now and put it all out there and just like try to reconcile that?

Because I just would love for Tamara and Gretchen to just have a conversation or I don't care, go into boxing room and beat the shit out of each other.

I mean, I just feel like there's like all these grievances from 12 years ago that we keep on reliving.

And can we hope it's, can we just like hop to 2025, please?

Grievances from 12 years ago, you're the one who has been rolling around in the grievances like a pig in mud.

You know, like, what was this whole Katie thing about in the first place?

You're married to your grievance from 12 years ago.

Shut up.

Yeah.

So

back to the waiting room.

You're married to Shane for crying out loud.

So we go back to the waiting room again, and it's time to get their rice in their butts, their little rice-sized pellets.

So, I mean, that's really it.

They get their injections.

So then we go.

Injections.

Yeah.

So then we go to Oslo Coffee Company and Jen's there.

And now it's a big meeting with Katie and Jen.

Dun, dun, dun.

And I just want to say, all I could concentrate on was the giant muffin sitting in the middle of the table that no one was going to touch.

And I just knew it was happening.

And I was like, look how much that muffin has put into its look today.

It looks so delicious.

Yeah.

It's been in glam for like hours.

It was prepped.

I mean, multiple people worked on this muffin.

And these ladies are just going to treat it with total disregard.

It's almost as bad as last season when uh

when gina and jen had a sit down in a coffee shop and gina ordered the world's largest croissant and didn't even bite it and then she stormed out without even having her croissant i was so mad for months after that disgusting behavior it really is disgusting

carbs

from you people carbs deserve respect you know they certainly do so kitty and jen sit down very serious and jen um Katie puts on her purse and Jen's like, oh, I literally thought you like walked up with like receipts or something.

And Kitty's like, Oh, I have them.

I have some very, very strong receipts that will fully exonerate me 100%.

Just brace yourself for what I've got coming to you.

Just get ready.

It's like, Okay, great.

I'd love to see it.

So, so Katie pulls out her envelope and she's like, Well, this is just so hard.

I mean, you know, I've had so many conversations about our lives.

Oh, Jen's, I'm sorry, Jen's saying that.

She's saying, We just had so many conversations about our lives, about pasts, about the future, about Ryan's paint and splatter denim jackets.

Just so many thoughts about that stuff.

I just feel like, what am I missing?

And then I sit here after a stupid fucking lie detector test and like, did you even pass any?

Like, what am I missing?

Jen asking what she's missed is hilarious because to be fair, I think she asks that after every conversation she has with every single person she has in her entire life.

Yeah, it reminds me of that Golden Girls where Betty White said, what I miss, and Dorothy says, just the boat, dear.

So Jen's like, yeah, katie's been such a loyal friend to me you know such a good friend but now i look at all those conversations and i think were those all lies too what do you mean were they all lies when she sat there listening to you sob about your ex or sob about your current or sob about your children or how are those lies stop being a follower jen so back at the day oh jen's having a real meltdown on social media these days i heard i heard that she's having a meltdown what's going on with her i haven't actually looked into it She is basically commenting like, you know what?

If you guys, how about instead of hating me, you just go over to Katie's page and you send her love because I'm so sick of this race crap.

I can't even, this is ridiculous.

This isn't even about race.

She's just like, stay off social media, Jen.

You're making this worse for yourself.

Okay.

Coming on and being like, I'm sick of this race crap.

Not, not great, Jen.

All right.

So, which we'll, we'll go into more of that on crappy hour.

I'll bring the videos and stuff.

So, um,

Katie is like, do you want to see something?

I have it in a vanilla envelope.

And she's like, oh, no, I don't eat anything with vanilla in it, including that muffin.

Please do not make me read the muffin.

She's like, no, no, it's vanilla.

It's kind of an envelope.

So did you know that the guy they hired is a paid actor?

And she pulls out a piece of paper and she's like, this is Wendy, Wendy, who works for him.

This is all on his website, by the way.

He tells you all these different things that you can book him for and some he can do simple acting.

What do you think about that?

Well, Heather DuBrow does very simple acting, and she's had a job here for years.

I don't know we're allowed to hold that against people.

What is simple acting?

What is it?

Is that basically like you go on to TV and then they give you lines of what you're supposed to say to the people?

And then you like, I don't know what simple acting is.

I can do simple acting.

It just means like I can be, I can do lie detectors or I can act like I'm doing lie detectors, whatever you need me to do.

He's like, I cannot do checkoff, but if you need me to read some lines from,

you know, like Empty Nest, I can do that.

He's like, yeah, I'll give you a couple of lines from different strokes, but

nothing from like Sam.

Why can't I think of this?

If you need me to, if you, yeah, Sam, I know you're talking about Shepard.

If you need me,

he's like, if you need me, he's like, if you need me to be in your infomercial audience and reacting to a product, I can do that.

if you need me to do tennessee williams i cannot do that

he's like do you want me to pretend i'm driving a car great sit me in a fake car and i'll drive it do you want me to improvise driving a car that is much more difficult

i don't do that it's difficult acting

um not too much

not too much dance

so i like the idea that like the implication that like maybe he's been accidentally called in to an audition for like fences And he's like, unfortunately, I can be in an infomercial about fences, but I can't be in fences.

Yeah, I mean simpler acting.

Yeah, I'm from the school.

Like, someone saw him and was like, get this guy in.

We need him in our place.

I'm sorry.

I'm just not qualified for your production.

Very difficult.

They're like, sir, will you be an extra in avatar?

He's like, that is a lot of makeup.

That is difficult acting.

Okay.

I need simple, simple acting.

That's crossing a line.

It's crossing.

I have to speak with my union representative.

I'm in

SASAG, which is simple sag.

I'm in simple sagaftra.

This may violate our union's rules.

So Katie tells her, yeah, this guy's an actor and he can do simple acting.

And Jen goes, okay, you know what?

This is fucked up.

Okay, is it fucked up that she's telling you this?

Or is it fucked up that they just hired an actor to do the party?

Like, what are you mad at me?

Do you even know what you're mad about, Jen?

Jen just came in here ready to be pissed.

She was about to offer him a role in an edward alby play this is up i didn't know he was a simple actor i thought he was a regular actor this is really

up

well i think i was set up by gina and emily did you notice every single question was a setup and she goes no i mean every question was a question to see if you were lying you know

I think that's the point.

Never ask Jen if she noticed something.

Okay.

Don't ask Jen that question.

There's only one answer to it.

No, I didn't notice that.

So, yeah, we see that they are all, I mean, all the questions are, you know, we see this flashback of Emily saying, everyone, ask a question that you want to know about each woman.

And what we're going to do is take a lie detector test, and nobody has to do this if they don't want to.

So Jen's like, well, I mean, I can't take this evidence back to the women.

They're going to think it's preposterous.

Kitty's like, well, if you don't believe me, that's okay.

And to be fair, I just don't think this is strong enough.

This is to say, it's too conspiratorial to say these are actors and Emily paid them to recite these lines.

It's just, it's just not going to, even if it were true, it's just not, it's not going to convince these dum-dums.

Yeah, I mean, it looked like a setup to me.

I would just have, I mean, I, I say get the men involved at this point because Matt was there, Ryan was there, and Slade was there.

So I say get them involved because Matt's sitting there also insisting that he heard it multiple times.

And then we have all the calls from Slade.

So I say it's time to just bring everybody in and get the truth out.

And note, by the way, this is jumping forward a little bit, but you know, people were taking screenshots of, there's a scene that we're going to get to very shortly about how Matt's reading texts from Slade.

And all of Slade's text messages are blurred out.

So does that mean that Slade did not give

like Bravo the authority to show the clearance to show his texts, his texts?

No, why would you have to give clearance if you've already given clearance that you're going to be on the show?

Do they need clearance to show your text too?

I don't know, but I think that's fishy.

I think that's.

I think if it's, if it would be, if it were, would be exonerating, I think you should, you know, I think it's probably because they were talking about production because Matt said in an interview that he did this week, he went on Stu's podcast and he was saying that Slade said, hey, you know, you better watch your wife because she's saying all this shit and production is pissed.

They don't want this stuff coming back up again.

And that's why Gretchen and Slade are lying about it because they don't want to get in trouble with production by bringing up naked wasted again because they want to pretend that never happened so he's so that's why it'd be blurred out yeah so slate is calling and telling him you know this goes on production i've got alex basket on the other line right now and he's extremely pissed off about this you keep your wife in line and tell her to lie about it which is exactly what we predicted was was that

It was not so much that Gretchen was afraid of

lawsuits.

It was that Gretchen was afraid of the wrath of Alex Baskin and Bravo.

Yeah.

But that would make sense.

Okay, so that makes sense why it'd be blurred out because production actually does not want to show that.

They don't want to break the fourth wall that much.

Well, they don't want to make themselves look terrible.

So

then

we see, so Jen's like, well, I'm trying to believe you.

I mean, I'm sitting here listening to you.

And so we see flashbacks of these questions.

And then Katie's like, well, Gretchen told us the story about Naked Wasted.

And then she said, the next morning, I went to the hospital.

They did a toxicology report and they found something in my blood.

She said that, and I will die on that.

She goes, no, she said she felt like she needed to go to the hospital.

She's like, well, that's how she's twisting it.

Jen, come on.

I actually believe Katie here.

I believe her.

I believe Katie.

I believe that this is an honest misunderstanding.

with Jen.

I believe there is room for the idea that Jen is not remembering at all.

i i cannot tell you how many little gaps in stories i don't remember anymore okay like i would not be surprised if jen was not fully paying attention if jen heard it doesn't remember parts of it and so her truth is that it was not said but

i don't know if that is the truth no i don't think that she's lying you think she's covering oh i think she's straight up lying yeah because i think at the dinner they said it and then when

first of all this is kind of katie's fault for going and running and telling a blogger she shouldn't have done that right if you're at a private dinner yeah yes katie is totally culpable ultimately

she shouldn't have done that but i think that because she did that and Gretchen, if Gretchen and if Gretchen and Slade, if Slade called the husband, Matt, and said, don't do, don't say anything about this because production is pissed.

We need to toe the line and say that Gretchen never said it.

Then obviously they said that to Jen too.

And Jen is choosing to stay with production and Gretchen because Katie never should have run to a blogger in the first place.

So I think in her mind, she's not doing the wrong thing because Katie never should have run and told stuff from dinner in the first place.

So I think in her mind,

Katie's still in the wrong because she went to the blogger.

So she doesn't care.

She doesn't see it as this big, huge lie.

But yeah, I think that Gretchen and Slate said it.

And I think Jen's lying because they agreed to lie.

And Katie broke the pact by going to the blogger in the first place.

So I think that's how she's reconciling it in her mind.

She's like,

she dragged me into this drama.

I didn't do this.

She did this to herself.

yeah i mean i don't know jen could be lying i guess that it's more like i could also see a world where she just doesn't remember because it's jen now i will have to say i'm just sort of like going back a few beats because i i feel like getting mad at gina and emily again and i just i just feel like it's it's i've gone five minutes without doing it and i i need to do it again so um

the sequence of events tamara says this thing gretchen deny gretchen denies that she ever said it jen i'm sorry katie denies that she ever told Kiki Monique that.

So Katie does tow the line for a while.

They're all towing the line.

Tamra storms off, right?

Storms off.

And it's pretty much dead at that point, right?

Like at that point, Tamara's the bad guy.

The people who resurrected it,

remind me if I'm wrong, because guess what?

I don't remember the full timeline, which is proof that people don't remember things.

But after that, it was it was uh it was Emily and Gina who reached out to Kiki to get to to the bottom of it, right?

Oh, no, because Gina called, Gina called

the reputable journalist, right?

Gina went and continued looking this up.

So Gina is the one who also, I think there's blood on Gina's hands because this was done and it was dead and Katie was being good friends, but Gina was determined to get to the bottom of this.

And like for what, to what end?

The reason why is because she's vindictive.

Because Gina, Emily,

Katie, yeah, and they want to get her off.

Exactly.

And I think that's shitty, actually.

Yeah, it is, of course, shitty, but she, but, you know, Katie is still lying to a baby.

Katie is still saying that she didn't talk.

Katie is still lying, but Gina is the one who actually asked.

Just let me be mad with Gina, okay?

Just let me have a workaround here.

Let me have a mental workaround.

Gina contributed to the escalation of this, is what I'm trying to say.

Yeah.

Because I personally think, really, at the end of the day, that Katie should not have said this to Kiki, but I also think

that Katie, I know we talked about this last week, like how, what was the intentionality behind this?

And maybe we should ask Kiki this.

I would not be surprised if Katie brought this up because it was like, oh, well, this was a thing that happened, you know, 14 years ago.

And like, isn't this funny?

Isn't this crazy?

Like, why would it's shocking because Gretchen's coming on the show and like, I mean, Tamara's been awful to Gretchen all these years.

I mean, she even tried to like drug her all those years ago.

It's like a tiny thing that now gets brought back with such a huge outsized level of importance.

And I think that Gina contributed to that because it could have been dead.

And Gina decided to keep

sticking her nose in it and making it a whole thing.

And then to the level where it becomes a polygraph.

And now this woman's not even on the show anymore.

Yeah.

So Katie is like, well, Jen, I sat there yesterday.

I looked at you and you were like, don't look at me.

And she goes, well, yeah, because I mean, you light fires and you just want to say Jen knows Jen was there.

And like, you want to validate through me and Katie.

And I, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

You know, and it took, you know, and she's basically saying, you can't keep dragging me into your drama over and over and expecting me to fight your battles like you started this shit i'm not doing it like i'm not doing it sorry and so she felt like she was thrown under the bus by katie so then we see um a flashback to the hot pot we see all these examples of katie doing this basically to gina where she's like well or to jen where she's like gina uh jen heard it jen heard it jen heard it and jen's like oh i'm not gonna fight your fights for you stop dragging me into this shit

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So Jen,

you know, Jen's like sick of all this stuff.

So Jen's like, you know, you hear things or you make things up.

It doesn't validate it to be true because you throw my name into it.

Stop doing that.

Please.

And by the way, thank you so much for thinking me in those moments.

It's really an honor, but please stop doing it.

So Katie is like, well, I mean, I don't know.

Like, you want blood.

I don't know what to give you.

I'm not lying.

I am definitely not lying.

I'm like,

I don't know, Katie, I'm on your side.

Don't get me wrong.

But well, I believe about

this.

I believe her about this Slayton Gretchen thing.

But Jen's like, well, I'm sitting here telling you it's messy around you and you have to take accountability and she goes but i take accountability for when i'm wrong but i'm not on this i'm not guilty and jen just says well that tells me everything i need to know goodbye and so she's done with her so yeah i think it's i believe her with a i believe her with the gretchen thing i just want to clarify it's more like Jen has lied so much in the past.

It's like, it's just hard.

Like she just keeps on saying, I'm not lying.

It's like, Katie, you've, you're really, I'm sorry, Katie, you really sort of like painted your Ronnie baddies.

You're just going to call everybody.

Just calling everybody.

I'm like, Kyle is such a liar, you guys.

Ronnie, that shows not if I'm calling Aria.

Okay,

so Jen's like, I've been waiting for something to give me an answer.

Like, where am I with this friendship?

Like, why does this keep happening?

She doesn't stand there and say, I've been fucking lying.

Trust me when I tell you, I would have remembered if Tamara had drugged Gretchen and she went to the hospital.

Katie lied to me the whole time, and that just doesn't work for me anymore.

But, like,

I don't know.

I just,

I don't know, Jen.

I just feel like Jen is,

I don't know what Jen wants.

Yeah, well, here's the thing that I think is confusing because Jen's not the brightest bulb on the tree, but we, we haven't caught Jen in a lie yet, right?

That I've seen on the show or that I can remember on the show.

I don't think we, I don't think anyone's really caught Jen lying.

No, no, she's just her business.

She's been around, like Ryan is also no angel, right?

Like we, we sense that Ryan has been up to shifty business and I I think that Jen is

I don't know I don't know if she's always the best I don't honestly I don't even know well I guess we have seen her lie because she was having an affair with Ryan and she said that they weren't having an affair and Tamara's like but they were fucking in the parking lot and she's like but that but that wasn't I mean we were waiting till the divorce came through so I guess we have but you're having a conversation in the car

yeah

but I I mean things that we think are a lie but I guess that you know that wouldn't be in the group.

That wouldn't be group dynamic lying or whatever.

That would be like private life lying.

So I'm not sure if you would count that.

So anyway, they're, they're done.

Um, and Katie's crying.

Jen leaves.

And

Katie's like, you can go the white girl names on this show.

Like, seriously.

I'm just getting.

I really, I whipped myself up into such a frenzy about that Gina rant I had about two minutes ago that I really,

I've been short, I've been short circuiting ever since.

Like,

I'm like, and then Jen, and then Jen said this.

And I'm like, wait,

what's my point?

Why am I?

I'm like, now I'm angry at everything for no reason.

I'm like, and then Jen, she picked up her coffee.

And I'm like, Jen, you don't even know how to pick up coffee.

Like, wait, no, I'm doing it.

Look, I'm doing it too.

And I don't even have rage today.

I'm just, it's just the utter brain melt of this show.

It's like, she lied about this, but she didn't lie about that.

And then that girl lied about this, but she may not be lying about this.

And then Gretchen probably lied about that.

Slate's definitely lying, but then Gretchen might not be lying.

Maybe Gretchen didn't care, but Tamara's lying, but she's not lying about that.

It's just so much trying to keep who's lying and who's not lying.

And then they're bringing in shit from 13 years ago.

And it's just, it's a brain-melting fucking episode.

So basically, Katie goes, okay, well, you should go.

And she goes, okay, well, I mean, I guess keep me updated.

And she goes, I mean, whatever the fuck that means.

They just.

Yeah.

So now Gina goes over to at this point.

Right.

So Gina goes over to Britt's house.

Britt is Matt's wife or girlfriend or whatever.

And they basically like fake Kelly Dodd.

And Britt's like, I almost wore a gene dress today, which is exciting.

And Gina's like, really?

Oh my God.

We would have been like twinnies, which

I think that would be my nightmare in life is to find out that I was twinning with Gina.

No, oh no.

I've got to burn my wardrobe.

They are kind of twinnies, though, because did you notice the word art?

When the,

they showed a close-up of word art and i was like i guess we're at gina's house but it turns out it was britt's house does matt only marry people with word art is it matt's fetish at the end of the day is he like we need

words everywhere he actually is like lost in a kitchen

he needs he needs to he doesn't understand rooms so he needs to have signs that say kitchen and things like that.

And I think this one was intense.

It was like, bless this home, the home of mac and cheese, the home of children with smiles, flowers in the sunshine, sunshine toasters and toast it's like could you make a shorter word art i don't have nine hours to stand here before i walk into your home and read this fuck is this

shell silver scene okay

so yeah um

uh so brit is brit's offers drinks and everything like coffee and all that stuff and um

so gina saying like my relationship with britt is like amazing like i really feel like we're gonna be parent together and it like allows me to have like a career and chase dreams.

So finally at long last because of Brit, I'm able to chase my dream of selling two-bedroom houses to old people.

Finally, I'm living.

Like it's proof that we have like an amazing relationship.

Let me show you some TikToks we've made.

And so we see TikToks of them dragging each other across the floor.

I'm not really.

I'm not really sure what that

sub-genre is on TikTok, but, you know, whatever.

So things that I wouldn't be able to do without four parents fully committed.

So then, uh, Gina is talking about how things happened with Matt, guys.

Matt had a heart attack.

Pretty shocking.

Uh, so he had a heart attack.

And, um, Gina is like, we see a flashback to her having dinners, like having drinks with Shannon and Heather.

And she's like, you guys, I went straight from New Orleans to Cabo.

And then the next morning, Matt had a heart attack.

And they're like, oh, that is so crazy.

Maybe almost as crazy as Terry having a stroke and driving angrily through Beverly Hills.

I guess I kind of did the spousal scary thing first, didn't I?

And mine was more wealthy because mine involved a luxury car.

Heather made me laugh with almost every line she said in this episode because she's just so ridiculous.

I think she's just so happy to not be in any drama.

She's just like, look at me.

Find Heather reacting to things.

And she's never reacting the right way.

Gina goes, Matt had a heart attack.

And Heather goes, that is so crazy.

She goes just a micro front.

Guys,

I found a half-off price deal on a Birken, you know, wow.

Crazy.

So Gina's like, I just can't imagine, Britt.

Like, if you didn't take him to the hospital, like, you saved his life, Brit.

Like, if you didn't do that, like, he would be, like, literally dead right now.

Brit's like,

like, he would be, like, gone.

Like, the guy that you live with, that you love, he'd be gone, not even there, Britt.

I'm like, can you just, like, ease up there a little bit, Gina?

Like, I think Britt understands what would have happened.

She's sitting here in a puddle of tears, and Gina's like, I mean, he would have died, Gina.

He would have died, Britt.

So, um, yeah, like, literally, like, I was thinking of Matt dying, and I was like, oh, my God, like, I might have to have a conversation with my kids about their dad dying.

And you saved me from having to do that.

Little Gina's selfish ass is like, thank you so much for saving me from having to have a conversation with my kids about their dad being dead.

So Gina.

You know, Britt like Beastmoded down to the hospital and like they had to get like a stint in his heart because it was like 100% collapse.

And it was so nice because the hospital wrote on the stint, stint.

So it was so nice.

He loves a word.

Now he has word in his heart, literally.

And he was having like a full-blown heart attack.

And as soon as they got the stint in, like the danger wore down, it was like a good wake-up call and he needs to be healthy.

Which is, by the way, really scary.

And I was like, I was like feeling my heart.

I was like, am I safe?

So then Gina is saying like, this is...

What's this stand?

Stant is sort of like Katie's time on the housewives.

It was a stint.

She's a little bit of a stent.

It's not a stint.

That's what I said.

Oh, bless.

I thought he said, what is a stint?

No, it's like the word art on his stint.

Bless the stint.

So, this is like what you realize: like, having like a functional family, like, that comes into play.

Because, like, if there was any bullshit between any of that, that wouldn't have been the same thing.

Like, this crisis was so eye-opening to me because, like, it could be more opposite with Trav and his ex, you know what I mean.

Like, if he had a heart attack, no, it would take him to the hospital.

You know what I mean?

So, Matt walks in, and Gina, Gina's saying saying that this really

lights a fire under her to get Travis to his divorce so she can marry him and like take care of the kids in case something were to happen to him.

And then Gina's like, nah, I got you again.

He's like, really?

Is this for me?

He's like, yeah, I got like real, like, I'm real sweet after like, I get real sweet after like life-threatening situations.

So like, look, I got you.

So he, she's given him like a care package of like a Mediterranean cookbook, a Mediterranean diet cookbook, and like some aspirin.

And he's like, great, thanks.

thanks like i was hoping for a fun care package but thanks for reminding me of the rest of my life now yeah so then hamra hamra that's heather and tamra's couple name hamra

yeah heather and tamra meet up at a restaurant and um

they're talking about what the hell happened at the lie detector test tamara's like i couldn't even sleep last night i'm like what the hell happened i'm like what the hell happened so much happened ain't you know what i was thinking and heather's like well well, I've really tried with Katie this year.

Really?

Look at how good I've been to Katie.

Do you remember that time I sat down with Katie to try and get information to use to hold against her later?

That was just so good of me to do.

I've really tried with her, but I just can't do it anymore.

I offered her a job as a housekeeper and she did not take it.

So, Tamara, I like that Tamara said that she couldn't sleep last night because she was on a high from adrenaline, which is so Tamara to see someone like run off of a show and like, she's like,

best night of the year.

Like, that's like what she lives for is someone like being the victim of a gang up.

Like, that speaks to Tamara's villainy right there.

So

Heather is,

she's,

Sargent arrives and she's like, hi, everyone.

I brought stuff.

I brought stuff.

Oh, do we need a cocktail for this?

Because it's just me with my girlfriends.

Okay.

We can get Cosmos.

Okay.

what who here is the carrie who is the samantha i'll be the blanche like okay heather it's like stop trying to be so the fun heather right now fun girlfriend heather let's order something fun i'm gonna have a paloma paloma exotic

fun fruity you mean like a a a tequila a tequila with grapefruit no Paloma is the name of one of my cleaners and I was hoping to have a second one.

Can we hire another Paloma for the house?

No.

Okay.

She actually messed up on the laundry, so I was hoping you could pick her up and blend her down so I could drink her DNA.

So they order their cocktails and everything.

Well, actually, Jen asks about the strawberry margarita and like the waitress is like, it's delicious.

And Heather's like, has anyone ever asked you something?

And you say, don't get that?

God, I'm so fun.

Look at me interfacing with service workers in a pleasant way.

I have grown.

If you want to see fun, Heather, Heather, let me call out a service worker for being the fake bitch that she is.

And so, yeah, so she has

waitress.

She failed it.

Come back.

Thank you so much.

So I met with Katie, and right when she sat down, she was like, that whole thing was staged.

What?

The polygraph was a setup?

Yeah.

And she's being set up and she's the one that we're all picking to

do this too.

Okay, those people were not for entertainment.

Trust me, if they ever tried to get onto TV land, they would not get through the front door.

Those are not entertainment people.

So the polygraph people work on TV?

Well, guess what?

My husband is a world-renowned TV doctor in real life.

So do you want to take pictures and put him in your file?

Hmm.

Hmm.

Oh, okay.

Okay, so you're saying the polygraph person is super real.

Then what about you lying about paparazzi shots?

Because he also said that.

Or we're just going to forget all your lies, madam.

Yes, we will.

Don't you understand?

Okay, so the polygraph people work on TV.

They can't be trusted.

Well, last time I checked, I was on an episode of Malibu Country with Reba McIntyre.

Does that mean you can't trust me?

Television's Heather DeBrow?

I think not.

Oh, that was good adjudication.

So Tamara's like, well, I don't know what, I don't know anything about that.

I've never met these people before.

So Jen was saying how this whole thing was like, sort of, it was like a weird interaction.

And Tamara's like, did she say I'm done?

Did she quit?

Did she run off?

God, I wish I could have seen it.

Oh, my God.

My heart's racing so fast right now.

I mean, personally, I wish we'd brought in the gay psychics to reveal this information, but whatever.

Different roads lead to different places in Morocco.

So, Jen's like, Yeah, you know, I just, I don't want to see her and talk about her the whole time.

I just want to have a conversation.

And I'm glad you're here because last time I, and she and I sat down, it's like, Yeah, it didn't work out, but it didn't work out.

So, then we see Jen and Tamara fighting at the restaurant, and Jen being like, You're fucking sick.

How dare you call me fucking sick?

I could be autisticness.

So, back to the present, Jen's like, Yeah, I guess maybe I place more of a value on our friendship, and now I just feel embarrassed that I ever placed value on that friendship.

Yeah, don't say that.

Like, we had some good tabs.

We had really good tabs.

Like, remember the time when I accused your husband of like having an affair?

And remember the time I called the FBI and your husband?

And remember the time I

tried to get everyone against you?

Like a few different seasons in a row?

Remember the time I called the private investigator on your husband?

We had so many good times together, Jen.

Yeah, I remember when I told everybody that your husband, that your boyfriend wanted to fuck me instead?

Yeah, they're so good.

We've had some good times together.

Come on, come on,

so good.

So, um, so now Tamara's like, okay, well, let me just say, I admit that I fucked up some society.

What happened?

Okay, everybody, listen.

Play some violins or something.

Tamara's about to open up.

Okay.

Remember when I said about Ryan?

That was a real aha moment for me.

It was aha.

It was so aha.

Hey guys, that was so aha.

That was nine odds out of ten odds.

And ah,

I really aha, that bitch.

You know what?

I started therapy, and I'm deep diving to shit.

I don't even want to talk about it, but I will talk about that.

I'm doing it.

And that little girl in me that just gets upset.

It's the girl that fucking lashes out.

I got a little girl in me.

Her name is Tammy Sue.

And she's got hair in the shape of a thimble.

And she gets mad at people.

And I'm mad now.

But I'm working on it, babe.

I'm working on it.

But you'll do this.

And then two weeks later, you know, you get backed into a corner and you're like, what, what, you're like a fucking aggressor, you know?

Oh, are we going to go backwards?

I feel like this is going backwards.

Rewind to that waitress lying about strawberry margaritas.

Let's do that.

All right.

Knife and Paloma's back.

Anybody?

We are going back, but I'm just saying, like, you know, you, you guys are changing the pattern because people don't like, you know, it's almost like crying wolf, you know?

It's like, yeah, things don't go this deep when you don't really care about about somebody and I do care about you.

Which is like the classic thing that, like, awful people on reality TV do.

They're mean and mean and mean and mean and mean.

And then they're like, I only act this way because I care.

Because if I didn't care, I'd just be indifferent.

I care about you so much.

The angrier I am at you means the more I care about you.

You just make me so angry sometimes.

Don't make me so angry.

Yeah.

And by the way, you know who else cries wolves?

Little girls.

Little girls stuck inside a possum face.

That's what they do.

They crowd all the time about this to wolf.

Sometimes there's a wolf and here's a wolf bitch.

Okay, she missed.

So Jen has decided to forgive her again.

You know, Tamara, who's done all of this stuff, but can't forgive Katie for

something said at dinner.

So this episode is definitely the producers trying to be like, no, America, don't worry.

Nothing's toxic here.

Look, everyone's getting long.

Everyone's happy.

Everyone's fine.

We just ran Katie off the show, but it's fine.

Everyone loves each other now.

Yeah.

So

Jen's decided to support Tamara in her journey, her journey of therapy.

So just thank you for going there.

Thank you so much, Tamara.

And they agreed to not do it anymore.

And they kiss on the lips.

And Tamara's like, I love you, Tim.

I love you so much.

We're like sisters.

I'm so glad you're happy.

We're so happy now.

We're such good friends now.

Means and just like sisters.

It's a separated apartment.

And then Heather, they're like sort of hugging or like clasping each other's like elbows.

And Heather takes like a selfie with them in the background.

I'm going to send this to Drake, my neighbor.

But we'll save these for later to see how it ends up.

This is almost as believable as that strawberry margarita tasting decent.

Does anyone know where Paloma is?

She's due at the house at 4 p.m.

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