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Well, hello and welcome to Crappy Hour.

I'm Ronnie, and that's Ben over there.

Hi, Ben.

Hi, Ronnie.

How are you?

I'm good.

Do you know why?

Why?

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We're on a boat.

Okay.

Hi, Ronnie.

How was it?

Hi there.

So good to see you.

It was a great weekend.

It sucks that it's over as it does every time a weekend ends.

I just, I sleep so much.

I don't know if something's wrong with me.

I mean, if something's wrong with me, it's been wrong with me my whole life.

But God, I just love to sleep.

It's a problem.

Well, it seems like it's not just the weekend that's good.

That's over.

It seems like your porn sash has disappeared.

What happened?

Oh, my skin.

Yeah.

I think I'll bring it back next week.

I was trying to trim it today because it was a little bit unruly and I trimmed it uneven.

So I looked like I had a hang, not a hangnail.

What do you call a hang lip?

I looked like I had a hang lip.

Hair lip lip.

Cleft lip.

Oh, hair.

Cleft palate.

I'm a joke in.

I can't pull that off, you know?

Okay.

Okay.

So it was

bad aiming.

It was bad aiming with the shaver.

I'm sorry to hear that.

I'm sorry.

It happens to all of us at some point or another.

What did you do this weekend?

Well, my parents are here in town.

So I've been having a lot of fun times with my parents.

Yes.

We went to restaurants and we watched TV and cooked some food.

So we've just been having a very nice, calm time.

And,

you know, this, because of our sort of bravo drought at the moment, I haven't had to subject them to as many Real Housewives shows as usual, which is fantastic.

They're going to get to watch.

Guess, oh, you love your what?

Sorry.

No, I was going to say, I love my mom's withering opinions on the real housewives.

Oh, well, so get to give them tonight because tonight you get to watch Real Housewives of London.

Yes.

I'm so excited.

Yeah, you guys have been asking for

Real Housewives of London recap.

So we're not going to do the whole thing because it's not playing here in America, but we are going to do the first episode this week because, you know, we don't have anything.

You know what else has been really good, which I've been watching, is real, not Real Housewives, but Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.

I know I'm really behind everybody, but we covered the first season and the second season we didn't because we had enough shows.

And I just watched the whole thing.

Wow.

Wow.

Those girls get down and dirty.

I mean, that show is so dark and they act so nice.

Even when they're stabbing each other right in the back, they're like,

here's how I feel about you.

You're a stupid bitch.

And I hope your whole family dies in a fire.

It's like,

I really have to get back into it because I really loved the first season, but the second season came around and I was like, there's too much.

There's too much going on.

Got a lot to do with the Bravo.

I'm just like, I can't take this on right now.

And then I lost momentum.

So I'm a little sad.

Plus, I heard that Great British Bake Off is back.

So I'm also like really excited to dive back into that.

So there's just like, it's like, remember when we did those recaps?

That was so fun doing those recaps.

It was fun to do.

Yeah.

But anyway, here we are.

But anyway.

But anyway, here we are under the tent to discuss Bravo Headlines of the week.

What stood out to you this week or the past couple of weeks actually in Bravo Headlines, man?

What are you thinking?

Well, I think the thing that stood out to me, the thing that stood out to me is a little bit old news by now, but Karen Huger is out of jail.

There's no new update update since we last discussed it, so there's not much to discuss there.

But I just wanted to acknowledge the grand dummy.

Okay.

This is the first crappy ever she gets to listen to since she's been out of jail.

So that's great.

Well, obviously, that's great.

I would like to congratulate the prison for getting rid of Karen because you know that she had to be making them effing crazy.

They just kept making that get out date earlier and earlier.

You know, she made them insane.

And, you know, they can breathe easily today, knowing that Karen is no longer in there.

Can I get a softer pillow?

I don't deserve this.

I need a better pillow, please.

Security, security.

Like,

the only thing around you is security.

You can't keep calling out for us.

Like, what?

What do you want?

You call me one more time.

They're very responsive here.

You know, here's something I would actually like to talk about, which is not hard-hitting or major, but I think it's a nice human interest story to kick off our hour.

Okay.

And the thing that has jumped out to me is news that Carl Radke takes People magazine inside Hall, softbar,

non-alcoholic adventurer.

I'd like to dedicate this to all the people who said, I can't do it.

I did it.

Kind of.

It's almost open.

It's almost open.

Not really open yet.

But I'd like to prove that I'm making strides by not wearing white jeans that are skin tight.

He's wearing jeans in this picture, actual jeans.

And I don't know how I feel about it.

Carl?

I feel feel like he, he may no longer, like, he doesn't need to have jeans that are skin tight because he just has skin that's skin tight at the moment.

I mean, it's like lucky him.

God, I'm jealous.

He is, it's like, it's, he is aging in a, you know, we all age.

It happens to each and every one of us.

There's no point in shaming people.

But what is happening to Carl?

What is happening to our sweet Carl?

Like this man.

Like he just, he looks so weathered.

Like, like, what, what, what has he been doing?

Who is in a relationship with Lindsay?

I mean, if that doesn't weather you, I mean, that's a constant storm.

Oh, my goodness.

Okay, so

listen, my neighbors in Texas, while I was away, while I've been away, have just been doing whatever they want.

I live in a unit where there's two places on one lot.

So I'm very close with the neighbors.

We're like a foot from each other.

Okay.

And open that Coke Ben.

I hope that's actually that you're opening.

It's actually just Seltzer.

Just seltzer.

Seltzer water.

So my neighbors decided they're going to get a sprinkler system, one of those hose things that has sprinklers in it.

So you don't actually put the sprinklers in.

It's like a hose thing.

Anyway, they aimed this right at my freaking bedroom window.

Okay.

So the first night I'm home,

I thought it was gunshots, honestly.

I felt like the guy from below deck.

I was like, I woke up with gunshots.

It was like gunshots.

It was like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

It's like, what the hell is that?

I jumped out of bed.

I went out there.

The freaking sprinkler, God knows how long it's been aimed right at my window.

It's not like they can't can't hear that it's aimed right at my window machine gunning me and the whole thing is cracked not the windows not cracked but all the all the the paint and stuff is coming off the window now and let me tell you what it looks like it looks weathered it looks weathered so I think that's what you're trying to say that was a long way of getting to you know what Carl just suffered from years of Lindsay machine gunning him in the face with her water spouse yeah okay and that

maybe that's why he looks weathered but yeah i sometimes forget that and i feel kind of like a dick because like he's weathered.

Like it's just some

people.

It's what happens to people.

But sometimes I'm just so shocked with Carl.

And he has taken, he takes us onto this tour.

Hall, there I am.

Softball opening soon.

So it opened up over later on.

I would like to point out that Ronnie did not call me weathered.

Ben did because Ronnie respects.

Ronnie respects my fish oil game.

So go ahead.

I

yeah, no.

Well, you know, I'm like, McBee unleashed a monster in me and there's no turning back.

But

Carl, he opened this, of course, over Labor Day weekend softball, because that's when they're going to be probably shooting the season finale of Summer House.

Limpy's not the only one going into Labor this year.

Not to be competitive.

Not to be competitive at all.

So we actually get like a tour of it.

And, you know, the truth is the place looks great.

It like visually,

it looks like very, like, it looks beautiful.

But I think that's a good thing.

I'm not going to kick a popsicle out of my drink.

I'll tell you that much.

He's got a popsicle right in a drink here.

Look at this.

A popsicle covered with what, cumin and chili?

That looks crazy.

I'm not.

Just imagine that it's Austin's tongue licking the glass.

Ben, I don't know that I'm going to, maybe that's why they're charging you 20 bucks for a drink or whatever, because they're putting a popsicle in there.

Look at that.

I don't know.

Here's my concern.

My concern is this.

First of all, like the ongoing, like if you listen to his tour, he's like, hole over here.

We have some really functional cocktails.

Or if you need some functional rehabilitation, it's all like some functional, like everything's functional, which I'm like, I cannot believe that this is the true use of the word function.

I don't think that's right.

But second of all,

as nice as it looks, it's kind of like a- What if you had a non-functional cocktail over there?

What if you just got it?

And you're like, this is, what if it was just like a cup of screws?

And you're like, wait a minute.

Why did you, why did you, why is there hardware in my cup?

Well, it's functional.

It's not fun.

It's literally not a drink, Carl.

Get me a drink.

Dysfunctional.

But I just, my worry is it kind of gives me WeWork vibes, kind of gives me like, you know, student, student center at college.

It's like where you go, you put up a poster to say that you want to like join some sort of like fencing club or something.

I don't know.

I'm just like, I just worry that that good guy Claus is going to be invoked very quickly.

I don't know.

I actually want him to succeed who guard claws despite everything i want carl to succeed i just it looks nice sometimes it looks

very pretty but you have a whole bar i have to say you have a whole bar here and well i guess this is the soft opening of soft so it wasn't really the opening and i mean you can tell because the bar only has a tv that looks like a microwave and then you have you know a few bottles there's not really a lot in here it looks like the the little room in the hyatt place that you get snacks you know it's just it's, yeah, it's just, it's so big.

It's so cavernous.

And as he talks about it, he's like, we could have events here or we could do this here.

We could do that here.

Or we could do that here.

I'm like, oh, no, this is.

We could have pregnancy events where pregnant women come to talk.

You remember?

Yeah.

Yeah.

We're going to have events where pregnant women talk about stuff.

You know, they can speak.

I want it to be a place for.

the community, the pregnant community, the Williamsburg pregnant community.

I don't know.

I don't know.

But this is the latest update.

Soft is, soft launched, and I guess we'll see.

Maybe at BravoCon, I guarantee at BravoCon, he's going to have some like very Austin-style kind of trailer.

It'll be like, what are those like trailers that you attach to the back?

It's like, so they're sort of like round with wheels.

He'll have one of those.

Like a little bit.

Yeah.

Like, remember when we got those bagels

in Austin like a few months ago?

Remember what we stopped by that little trailer?

Oh, yeah.

I think it's going to be like one of those trailers and it'll be serving soft, soft drinks at BravoCon.

That is is my prediction.

And I'm sure there'll be like a fake palm tree and like a flamingo.

That's, I'm going to say that right now.

Someone is asking, why is the sign so small?

I had to look at the picture to see.

It looks like it says so feet or a square feet.

So feet, right?

Like square feet.

Love the color of the outside.

This is my blue.

I love this kind of blue.

What a beautiful blue.

I don't know.

The exterior paint is great.

Good for him.

I mean, I'm a dick, too, though.

Looks fair.

When I saw this, my first thought was, is it open or not?

Because it's not.

It's like, we're going to open.

We're just, it's like a, it's like a welcome party before we open.

Open the fucking, open it.

Open it.

Carl.

Open it.

You're making me crazy now.

Open it.

Yeah.

It looks great.

Looks great.

I just have concerns.

That's, that's really where I'm at, everyone.

Okay.

Well, you know what?

Concerns noted.

But congratulations, Carl.

I'll fucking with you aside.

Good for you getting that thing open.

Congratulations.

Also, didn't they say that's $10,000 a month?

That doesn't look very expensive for $10,000 a month.

I say you're getting a bargain.

Good gar claws.

Okay, I mean, so

that was my human interest story to start off the episode.

What's on your mind, Ronnie?

There have been some rumors of Real Housewives of New Jersey.

They're like, you know, are they filming?

Are they not?

Who's coming back?

Who's not coming back?

We had Melissa Gorga and Danielle Cabral over at the Some Awards show.

What was it?

Them TV videos?

Yeah, is that what that is?

Then we had Marge making an Instagram post that was something like, the bitch is back, something like that.

And people are like, does this mean you're back?

She's like, no.

It doesn't really mean anything.

It was just a post.

What do you want from me?

I'm about to post words.

It was just words.

It was Words in a post.

I was talking about Sabrina.

She's back in Tenafly after spending the entire summer in Prague.

It's Czech Republic.

Okay, but she's back.

And then there have been rumors that they've been doing test filming with the Real Housewives of New Jersey with Melissa, Margaret, and Jenny Aiden.

Just kidding.

Melissa, Margaret, and who's the other one?

Dolores, I guess, would be the returners.

Dolores, for sure.

But that they're supposedly leaving Teresa out, that they're doing tests without Teresa.

So I don't know if any of that's true.

That's just some goss on the internet.

I just don't think that Bravo

is dropping Teresa.

I just don't think so.

I think if the concern is that Louis might be a liability, I think Bravo

doesn't mind.

It's the sort of mess that Bravo likes.

I think Jen Aiden is gone.

I think that What's Her Face is probably gone.

I don't even remember her name.

You know.

The one with the ski jump nose.

Oh,

wasn't that another Danielle?

What was that girl's name?

The girl whose husband owned

Fuda.

Rachel Fuda.

Rachel Fuda.

Rachel Fuda.

What was the tile company?

Yeah, the tile empire.

Tile Empire.

I don't even think we love toils.

And my husband's very serious about tiles.

And you're coming from my husband right now.

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't need her back.

Yeah, I think really.

I just

got the brawler.

I need her back.

She was crazy.

I need her dad back crying into his fist.

My daughters don't speak to each other.

Oh, I told him my son, and that is.

Oh, maybe that's why he don't talk to me because I called him a daughter.

Oh, but he's like a daughter.

Oh,

my brother doesn't talk to me.

You want a fucking piece?

Yeah, I like that girl.

I think she's Cray Cray, and I want her back for sure.

Now, Bravo has come up against a lot in the past few years with the reality reckoning, a lot of people threatening lawsuits.

And we've seen them kind of react scared in that, you know, they haven't settled any of these lawsuits, so they're not scared in that way, but they have kind of backed down in some of their theory.

They've tried to show us like a softer side of Bravo, I think.

I don't know how well it's going.

Yeah, they've tried.

And

they're trying to show like, we're not scared, but we're listening.

Well, let me tell you what will scare them.

Teresa fans if Teresa doesn't come back, because Teresa fans will firebomb NBC Universal.

They'll do it.

They'll do it.

Yeah, they.

They will.

They will.

They are not fucking around.

So I don't see Bravo doing that.

And I think that they maybe not afraid of Teresa, but definitely afraid of, you know, Teresa's stands.

I shouldn't say fans because, you know, you're allowed to be a fan of somebody.

I'm a fan of Teresa, but, you know, the stands, like the real cray craze.

Yeah, I just think that Teresa, I think, I think Bravo,

she's just too much.

She's too big.

Too big.

She's unsinkable.

I think Bravo's keeping her.

I think she'll be there, you know?

Well,

I feel like, was she just on a show?

I feel like she was just on a show.

I know she was.

Villains or something.

Didn't she just do villains or one of those?

She did villains, but I thought there was something else that she was on.

But either way, I just have a hard time thinking that she's not on it.

I think that rumor is like started by Danielle Cabral.

I think she puts it out there.

She's like, hey, Nate, go put it, go tell people, go tell Dave Quinn.

Go tell Dave Quinn.

Teresa's out.

Okay, Cabral's in.

Tell everyone.

Tell everyone a kid's bop too, by the way.

Let's get two, two,

two stones with one bird.

Okay.

I have a personal question in here from Britt.

Actually, she says, did I miss any bobcat updates?

Nope, there haven't been any more.

And I've literally sat at that window playing the piano.

I mean, my practice has gone up because I've been searching for that bobcat.

It has not come back.

And I'm very sad.

But, you know, I do still have Bueller.

I can't be just inviting a bobcat over and then it gets a big

skill.

You know what I mean?

So I have to be.

I have to be good.

I'm doing like nature.

I'm just doing the nature thing where I'm sitting behind a window and just searching for it and sending my love that way.

But I'm not leaving out food or anything.

I'm not crazy because I'm the idiot who would be friend of bobcat and then it kills me you know i'm one of those people who's like but the the bobcat ate my face

yeah uh also let's hold hold some space for the fact that it might be a mountain lion so uh mountain lion babies do have spots as well that's what people have been messaging me yeah um to to warn you about by the way which is like don't befriend a

door don't

Just know that mama's nearby.

Okay.

And what mama wants, mama gets.

Be careful.

Also, people are saying that

what maybe what we were thinking about is that Teresa and Gia are both on special forces on Fox.

And I think that was it.

Did anyone even watch that show?

That's just a show that exists.

I don't, maybe not.

I feel like Special Forces exists solely to get us to react to their casting, but no one actually watches it.

Like, they don't, I don't think they actually even air the show.

I think they just make casting announcements and they release clips and then that's it.

Then it's a wrap.

Because I don't know anyone who watches that show.

I don't either.

It seems, I don't know.

Maybe it's like people who are really into like war stuff, you know?

Yes.

Like those guys.

Like, I have a couple of friends who are like, bro, did you watch Bands of Brothers?

Like, no, no, no.

Every time we start talking about TV shows, they're like, that's like one of the best things of all time.

I think they're just people who are just like into war stuff, you know?

They do.

There are people that love.

war stuff and it's just not me i just don't i don't find it fascinating but you know i did love tarisa and and Gia is scary, right?

In war.

My goodness.

Can we just stop?

Just stop it all, right?

Just stop it.

You want to fuck with me?

You want to fuck with me?

Teresa going up against Putin.

Actually, I was just thinking.

No, I'm in.

I just talked myself out of this show.

It sounds great.

I was reading an article today about

how tank,

like, not...

Like tank camouflage has evolved rapidly over the past three years because of drones and of the fighting in Ukraine.

And so they've been having to modify all these tanks to make them

partially to camouflage from drones, but also like drones will drop a grenade on them.

So they have to add this other thing on top of it.

And then the drones will fly into the thing.

And so they have to add chains and the drones will get underneath.

They have to do all these modifications, which is not unlike being a real housewife in the first place.

And second of all, I just love the idea of like Teresa potentially modding out a tank and just doing it all wrong, just making it look like a big, gaudy, tacky, luxury car.

They're like, wait a minute, why are meatballs being dropped all over the Ukraine?

Teresa's in charge of the drones, too.

Oh, no.

Oh, war.

Hilarious.

So Alexio Mansky got married to someone named Jake Zingerman, and he must be rich because otherwise, why would you marry somebody whose last name is Zingerman?

You know that that guy's annoying.

He's like,

he may have deli access

because there's Zingerman's deli

Ann Arbor.

Hello, come on to my Zingerman's Deli people out there.

Hello.

High five.

No, who is this person?

He looks like a tall version of Josh Altman in little pictures.

Let me see.

Tinier.

He does.

Right?

Here, I'm going to share.

I'm going to share this.

I'm going to say this right now.

This is a

picture.

Okay.

Gosh.

Guys.

Her dress is pretty.

Mauricio looks like he's in guys and dolls.

I'm not sure what he's doing.

Yes, I love be a lady tonight, huh?

Listen, luck be a lady tonight.

That's all I'm saying.

I love Mayor Winningham on the right.

Like, I love this lady who is probably the mother of the groom.

And she's just like pulled into this world of Beverly Hills plastic surgery and fillers.

And she's like, what the fuck am I standing next to right now?

I just want my son to be happy mama zingerman yeah mama zingerman's like is this a wedding or a or a convention for cabbage doll faces cabbage patch doll faces a zing mama zingerman got one in there

mama zingerman looks like she already cannot stand kyle at all look at her she's like this one i have to stand next to

i brought my best angled angled purse i got my best angle rippled purse here and i gotta stand next to this one

uh yeah they had maroon as their color i guess that was a big a big thing i've never seen i don't think i've seen maroon as a color since like

maroon was my junior high color only five people could wear it though did you know only five people could wear it

where's that from

oh

zing

what are you a peasant at the zingermans

you just got zingerman it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappins commercial

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The other day, I ordered from Wayfair this really cool little side table for here in this office.

So that way, if I ever needed my laptop, I could put my laptop on it right next to my desk set up, which was really cool.

But what I've since found is that this cute little table works really well as almost like a TV table.

I can bring it upstairs.

I can put a drink on it while I watch TV or if I'm watching a game, because you know, I am a sports gay.

I enjoy my football.

I can have my little snacks right there while I recline on the sofa.

I just love my cute little table.

I really do.

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So a photo came out that was a Kyle put a photo out, I think, on her Instagram, and it was Kyle,

Erica, Rena, and Teddy.

And I don't know if she said Fox Force 4, if that was somebody else who said it, but everyone's like, oh my God, where's Doreet?

And she said, Darit and Setton were both at the wedding, but they didn't make the picture.

So they're not part of the Fox 4.

That's intentional, by the way.

When that happens, that's not by accident.

That's what I said.

I was like, don't act like the one picture you post of your friends and, say, the Fox Force 4 or whatever, you just leave out Dorit on accident, ma'am.

How dare you?

How dare you?

That's that is

something's up with that.

Yeah, because I think I saw a picture of Bose from the wedding as well, right?

Wasn't Bose there or no?

I don't know.

I didn't really look at that many pictures.

I just

honestly copied and pasted the link.

Wait, are you saying you were not obsessed with Alexia Umansky's wedding to a rando?

Wow.

I can't believe it.

Yeah.

But good for her, I guess.

You know, that's still something people do.

So get married.

So good for her.

Yay.

What do you want to talk about next?

Well,

I think it's time that we...

It's time to talk about Orange County stuff, right?

It's time.

Yeah, we have to get on.

Well, let's talk about one thing first.

Okay.

Because I think Real Housewives of Orange County is going to take the rest of the time.

So Brittany Cartwright goes on romantic Mexican getaway with a new boyfriend after his wife blasts him online.

Brittany Cartwright and her new boyfriend, Brandon Hansen, packed on the PDA in steamy new pics in photos obtained by blah, blah, blah.

Who cares?

They go to Cabo together.

I can't tell if he's cute or not, honestly.

He's got glasses on the holes.

Is he?

I can't tell.

He's

from some angles, not cute from other angles.

I'm going to say not cute overall.

I'm going to look looking at tattoos.

I'm going to say he is not cute.

Sorry.

Okay.

Well, here, I'll show everybody on the screen so you can see him.

So this is him.

So they had all these pictures on the beach.

Yeah, I'm going to go with not cute.

I don't, these tattoos.

I'm going to say you're not cute because of tattoos, but that's all I can see, sir.

So sorry.

Let's see.

So then he, I'm trying to get to the picture that was so offensive.

There's, oh, this one here.

So see how he's like touching her belly and she's taking a picture and he's like licking out her earwax with his tongue and all that good stuff so gigi done dun dun gigi made a post

and she said something along here i'm trying to get it up now well nessa not gigi haded for those you know because they they do exist in the bravo universe together this is okay go on see what gigi said Gigi said something.

I'm looking for the quote here, but I don't see it.

Gigi said something like, is she pregnant or what?

Because his hands on her belly and she looks pregnant.

And, like, is this a pregnancy announcement?

You don't do that.

What's wrong with you?

And you've been pregnant.

Yes.

You do.

You know what?

You do do that if you were on the Valley Goldnessa style or Persian style.

Because then you're like, that's like, that's their way of saying, guess what?

Our show's coming soon.

We're going to start a rivalry with the other show by saying something rude to someone else.

I'm not saying I approve it, but like to me, as soon as I saw that Gigi was in like a nascent feud with Britney, I was like, I know what this is all about.

She's trying to get that hype going for her version of the valley.

Yeah.

So I guess that's what happened.

So, of course, Kristen got all pissed off.

I was like, oh, Dario.

I went off on Gigi.

And then Gigi went back off on her and was like, you don't want words with me.

If you think you're going to have words with me, you're going to get some words.

And you like words?

You're about to get some words.

Wordy.

Wordy words.

Watch out.

Watch out for those words.

It's a GG.

It's a difficult GG post.

I didn't really understand what it said, but I knew it was threatening.

I felt very threatened by it.

She's like, you want a piece of me?

Come on and get a piece of me.

I'm Gigi from the valley, baby.

Gigi from the valley.

Come get your piece.

Chris was like, You come for my friend.

You come for me.

And then Zach Wickham was like, Um, how dare you?

How dare you come for a pregnant woman?

So

I'm not really sure, but they're all in three.

And then Brittany went on her podcast and was like, yo, you know,

I don't got no beef with GG, but it ain't body.

It ain't nice to body shame nobody.

But

it ain't nice.

I'll do that.

But some people are like, she's not body shaming you.

She's literally asking if you were doing a pregnancy thing because he was holding her belly.

I mean, I don't, I don't know.

But I'm an idiot.

Listen, socially, I'm an idiot.

I put my foot in my mouth all the time.

We all know it.

Okay.

There's nothing to deny there.

I'm the worst.

Even I know not to do that, Gig.

I mean, come on.

Yeah, you never ask if someone's pregnant.

You let them offer that.

Okay.

You don't enter that into evidence on your, on your behalf.

But to be fair, you know how I know that?

Because I've done it before.

So

I did burn my hand that way.

One time when I was waiting tables many years ago, I was in my early 20s, just a little babe in the woods.

And I said, what do you do to somebody?

Oh, hell no.

Oh, oh, no.

You should have said to order more food because it looks like you don't have enough.

Come on, let's get you some more food.

That helps.

Eating for two.

Yeah, that was another end of the John's pizza.

I have other things I actually want to talk about before we get to OC.

I just realized, I just remembered.

An article that I really enjoyed highlighted.

The headline was how Harry Styles swooped in like Cinderella's Prince.

Hello, it's called Prince Charming

to help Real Housewives avoid disaster at star-studded Parisian wedding.

So, of course, I fell for the clickbait.

I was like, who is Harry Styles interfacing with?

I thought it was going to be Lisa Renna.

It was, of all people, Carol Radzawell.

Carol was climbing up a

staircase and her dress was too heavy.

And her friend turned around to take a photo of her.

And then in swoops, Harry Stiles to save her.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah, so she's got that young man on her arm again, yet again.

I know.

Well, I have to say, I was happy for her.

I was like, you know, there's a lot of real housewives that try to interface with like the truly famous.

And she did it.

So, you know,

I say good for her.

Good for her.

She got some Harry Styles.

He looked gorgeous.

I'm not even a Harry Styles person.

I was like, he looked so handsome right there next to Carol Radzwell.

I don't know.

She's just away from Zoe.

Did you see the interview where she was talking about being friends with Robert

F.

Kennedy, whatever, RFK?

And they're like, what's up with you being so liberal and being friends with RFK?

And she's like, well, you know, he wasn't into that whole like anti-conspiracy or anti-vaccinations and all of that.

I mean, he was just a guy.

He was just a nice guy.

I mean, he did, he did have the roadkill.

Like, that was his thing.

Like, he would find roadkill and he would keep it in his car.

And, you know, you'd get get in there and it's stinked.

I mean, it just smelled like death.

His van smelled like death.

So, uh,

she's really batting, uh, batting, batting 100, you know, with between RFK and Ghislaine Maxwell.

I mean, look, Carol's just killing it right now.

Oh, someone says, Didn't she date RFK Jr.?

Oh, wow.

Did they date?

Yikes.

How could you date somebody when you get on the phone and they're like, oh,

would you like to go

dinner tonight?

Would you like to go

his to be fair?

His voice did not sound like that 20 years ago.

Oh, it didn't?

I don't know.

I'm just realizing how little I pay to the news, little attention I pay to the news because I saw a clip of him

on the news today.

I was like, he talks like that?

I don't know.

Did he get sick?

Is that why?

Am I making fun of someone?

There is a, it's a, it's a condition.

I looked it up.

He has like a conditional face basically.

Honestly, don't feel bad.

Don't feel bad for shaming RFK.

I think it's okay.

We can shame this man.

Yeah.

Well, I think you're still not supposed to make fun of sick people, but I don't know.

It's hard because we like doing voices.

And he's like, oh, yeah,

I'll make fun of someone who'll make other people sick.

How about that?

So then,

by the way, Debbie in the comments noted she didn't date JFK Jr.

She was married to his cousin, Anthony, I think was his name.

He had a brain worm, they're saying in the comments.

Thanks, you guys.

God, you know what?

We should just always be on here so I could learn things.

Robert Kennedy had a brain, probably from fucking dead things in his van.

Don't those worms worm their way in there?

Okay, Ben, go ahead.

I'm so sorry.

No, actually, someone actually gave the actual medical diagnosis, which is that his condition is being an utter asshat.

I don't know if that's.

Thank you, Angela and CA.

Well, I've suffered from that for sure.

To be fair, we all have.

It goes around.

It's happening right now, perhaps to me.

The other thing that the last thing I want to talk about, Ronnie, because I saw this and I saw this picture on Instagram and I was not happy about it.

Craig and Madison Lacroix are going to be guest judges on Top Chef.

Madison, fine.

Like I'm down for Madison.

She is born for corn.

So we'll give her a corn challenge.

But Craig, as a, as, as a, as a judge on Top Chef, I'm just not sure I'd buy that one.

I'll be like,

like, um it you know this tastes a lot like trying to make a relationship work and buying a ring and just like not being loved in return so yeah it's really good thanks you know we've seen madison cooking on southern charm and she's she jokes that she can't cook but she's kind of like little southern southern homemaker and then we see we've seen craig cook craig's cooking is taking a big bag of frozen meats and just dumping them onto the the outside the outdoor grill remember he couldn't figure out how to work the pan and the stove or something in his house.

I don't trust.

No, Craig,

I agree with you.

Craig, no, but yeah, it would be fun.

Um, yeah, yeah, he's he's sick.

Everybody's telling me Robert, Robert F.

Kennedy's sick.

Okay, okay, SARS.

So, anyway, yeah, I agree with the no, but you know what?

We have to get into now this news because now we're gonna run out of time.

Um,

so let's get into the kiki monique of it all: the Real Housewives of Orange County, Kiki Monique scandal.

So Kiki Monique has been everywhere.

She's been on every podcast.

She has been getting her story out there.

Thank you to VanderPod Recaps, as usual, for saving us the time because I ain't listening to all that.

I'm watching the Mormon, the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives in a weekend.

I don't have time for all these podcasts, but she's breaking them down.

She was on Carlos King.

This is not on VanderPod Recaps, but I saw a clip of this looking it up.

Kiki says that producers called her to come on camera with Gretchen, but she wasn't really comfortable just being with Gretchen because

Gretchen was one of the people at the party who said it.

She was involved in the story.

So she didn't want it only to be Gretchen because, you know, it should be somebody else.

So she asked for Gina to be there because she had that piece of gossip that if she told Gina that,

I guess it was that

if she told Gina that Katie was talking about Gina saying, are they agent designers or whatever, that Gina would be more likely to believe her story.

So that's why she told her and insisted on her being there at this meeting.

Okay.

So

that was the first thing.

Then there was this rumor about Sheena and Kiki being friends.

And so

is it

Sheena that really started this whole thing?

Is it Sheena that said that Gretchen said that she went to the hospital because she was roofied?

Because Sheena and Gretchen are friends.

So what was it?

So she went on.

Katie, Janella, went on Teddy's podcast.

Teddy.

Okay.

Hi, I'm Teddy.

Wait.

Wait a second.

She went on to Teddy.

You mean two teas and a pod?

Yeah, what did I say?

Well, you said Teddy's podcast.

I just want to clarify that it's two teas and a pod, a podcast that Tamara, it's Tamara's podcast with Teddy.

And Tamara, who basically started this entire thing about why we shouldn't trust Katie because she goes and talks to content creators, is now being welcomed by a content creator who just so happens to be Tamara, by the way.

Just want to point that out.

Well, I think this was just a Teddy thing because I don't think Tamara was involved because she has journalistic integrity.

So she's not Tamar County Day.

Doesn't matter.

Tamara Tamara will earn money off of that ad revenue for that episode.

So

the hypocrisy has been flagged by me.

Yes, flagged hypocrisy.

So I'm sure that they would argue that they are not saying content creators.

They are saying bloggers and they're not bloggers.

They're podcasters just because, you know, the semantics in the housewives world.

So they're talking about Sheena.

Teddy is saying, okay, hi, I'm Teddy.

So we're going to get into the kiki monique of it all.

So I heard a rumor.

There isn't one part of me, and correct me anywhere that I'm wrong.

There isn't a part of me that doesn't believe that you went out to dinner with Jen, Ryan, Gretchen, Slade, and all all this was talked about.

It was okay.

So, we'll get into the gen of it all in just a minute.

But what I was told, and who knows if this is true, but I was told that Gretchen and Sheena are very tight.

Yes, and that Sheena told Kiki, and I've heard that from multiple people too.

Okay, okay.

Well, I'm glad that we got that figured out.

So, I heard they're very tight.

So, here's multiple sources that could have told Kiki.

You are vindicated.

Hi, I'm Teddy.

This is a Hi, I'm Teddy News Network.

I'm Teddy, hi, I'm Teddy.

Ha ha ha ha ha.

Hi, I'm Teddy.

Hi, I'm Teddy.

I don't know.

I mean,

I love the idea of bringing Sheena into this, but I just don't really see it.

Like, I just don't see this as the, as the, as the, as the, as a smoking gun.

I think that Katie said it.

I think Katie said it to Kiki.

I think Katie was being careless.

Katie continues, there's clips of Sheena calling Gretchen with Kiki on their podcast together saying, how do we get you back on the show?

How do we do this?

And it's also, and it's also, it's this stream of like 20 slides of how it makes sense that it allegedly was them.

She's talking about a post that they saw on Instagram.

And

Katie insists that she did not tell Kiki.

And Katie is saying, I was just gossiping about myself.

I was sitting at that lunch and she knew about the episodes that I hadn't even seen.

And she had seen screeners that I hadn't even been given.

And it was before we filmed a reunion last year.

And I was like, oh my God, I feel this way.

I feel that way.

And we were talking about it being a woman of color, the only woman of color, and kind of commiserating on that a little bit.

And that's when I told her there are some things that I've seen with these women that make me feel a little weird.

And that's when I brought up the Gina thing.

Yeah, I,

first of all, I don't think that they even have screeners available that far in advance.

Like,

if

this would have been the last

season,

right?

Yeah, this would have been the last season, I guess.

Maybe.

Okay, sorry.

I got my timelines confused.

I don't know.

Like, I think that, like,

I still, I just don't think that this was put forth by Sheena.

And then Katie, it got, like, mixed up in that way.

I don't think that, like, Sheena told Kiki.

And then Kiki is saying that Katie said it to protect Sheena.

I just don't think that.

I think that if Sheena said it, I think Kiki would say, Sheena told me this.

And I just don't.

see what she has.

I don't know why she would have to, Kiki would have to like

to what motive she has to pin it on Katie necessarily.

I I think that Katie told her.

I think Katie was being sloppy.

And I think it's like, and honestly, I don't care that Katie told her because I think that it's so, it's so overblown.

Like it's really,

I just think this is, it's, it's, it's ridiculous that she's losing her, her income because of this stupid lie when people have lied about far worse and have done far worse on this show.

But I just think that like, well, I mean, this thing is like funny, but it's not.

I don't, I just so the allegation is, like, if we're just piecing this together, so the allegation would be that

Katie goes to dinner with everybody she hears all this gossip she gets together with kiki and all she told kiki was the gina stuff like gina said the thing about asian designers which kiki took and that and now katie is alleging katie and teddy are alleging that

just to be just to get greton back on the show

katie no Gret, this is so confusing.

I need a pen.

I need a whiteboard.

Basically, basically that they're going to come up with this whole thing okay well kiki i heard this in for you heard this information so why don't we make it that we say that uh

katie was the one who told us because then that'll start a fight with the katie on the show and that'll get gretchen back on the show it doesn't make any sense like it doesn't make any sense it's too far-fetched yeah it's like

there's too many there's too many moving parts and it's honestly not a great story to get on the tab on the show anyway, you know?

But also, didn't Katie say, didn't she admit to us that she told Kiki that like Gretchen had had to go to the hospital and there were drugs in her system, right?

Didn't Katie admit that?

I can't keep track of it anymore.

No, Katie's saying she never said that to Kiki.

She's saying she got together with Kiki, but she didn't tell her that Gretchen went to the hospital and was so she never, oh, so she's saying she never told Kiki this.

And so the way that Kiki knows about it is because it's from Sheena.

Right, because Sheena and Gretchen are friends.

So Gretchen told Sheena, Sheena told,

she told Kiki Monique, and then Kiki Monique blamed it on Katie to give Gretchen a storyline for the show.

I mean, it's,

I don't, yeah, I don't, I don't, Gretchen doesn't need Kiki to do that for her.

And I don't think Kiki, and I think Kiki knows that.

Like, Kiki doesn't need to do that for Gretchen.

I think that

maybe she did hear it from Sheena at some point, but she also heard it from Katie as well.

And I don't know.

I just think that whatever, whatever Kiki mentioned to her friend, whatever trickled back to Tamra,

you know,

that is,

you know, whether it was originally sourced from Sheena or Katie, it's hard to say, but I just think that like Katie, like I, again, I'm fully on Katie's side, but Katie has like, she has like, she's messed up a lot.

And so it's just, it's not, it just, it seems too far-fetched to me that there's this like conspiratorial.

Well, I can't really be on Katie's side either.

I'm on Team Nobody because I can, it's hard to be on Katie's side when she's still lying.

Like, I believe that she's lying about that too.

I just think it's too crazy that she didn't get together and tell Kiki.

And then Kiki's saying, no, she definitely told me.

And I can't believe she would throw me under the bus like this.

Well, you threw her under the bus by going and telling other people, which eventually telling Jacques, which went to Dave Quinn.

And then Dave Quinn went and ran to Tamra, which is, you know, I don't know, these journalistic integrities that people have are crazy anyway.

I don't know that we're really journalists, any of us, but I think Dave Quinn would be because he's at People Magazine.

That's like a real journalist thing, you know?

It's a journalistic outlet.

But yeah, he shouldn't be running to Tamar and tattletailing me.

What kind of storytellers are these?

Where's my deep throat?

Where's my, where's my Bob Woodward and what's his face?

Woodward and Einstein.

Woodward and Zingerman.

Where's Woodman and Zingerman?

Yeah.

I, yeah, this is, this is a total collapse of all journalistic integrity.

And this is what happens when we do not support real journalism, obviously, clearly.

But I...

Well, it's hard to be, it's hard to support real journalism because you have to pay every time you read an article.

That's true.

I even went to see something the other day.

Someone sent us about Wendy Malik winning

something in Buffalo Journalism, and I couldn't even read the article because Buffalo Journalism is trying to charge me to read.

I'm like, you are Buffalo.

You are the Buffalo newskeeper.

You really think I'm going to be paying to read your thing about Wendy Malik?

I'm not going to do that.

Put some ads on there and feed it to me.

What the hell, Buffalo?

You're sitting on a viral news story and you won't let it spread because you're putting a paywall on it.

The people want to know about Wendy Malik.

Okay.

Let us read it.

Yeah.

We get huge Wendy Malik news about being inducted into the Buffalo Journalist Hall of Fame or whatever the hell it was.

And I don't even get to read the article.

What the hell?

It's inappropriate.

I think that ultimately in this situation, I think it's totally plausible that like Sheena and Gretchen, well, we saw them saying like, how do we get you back on TV, Gretchen?

And like, you know, like, but those are conversations that happen happen all the time you know i probably every time i see leah black i'm like how do we get you back on tv because i want her to be a real housewife again you know i just i don't i think in this case i i am gonna settle on that i think that katie just was being sloppy and if she would just say yeah i said it because i didn't think it was that big of a deal i think that would be really beneficial but i think she's trying to double down and like i just it's like I think it's time to like let the mouse go, Katie.

Okay.

We're rooting for you, but you've got to, you got to, you got to do the right thing here.

Not the right thing.

You got to like do the like sane thing, I think, you know?

Yeah.

And just admit that you said it.

Oh my God.

But, you know, then again, it is really taking away from the real thing, which is that Gretchen and Slade were the ones saying it at the dinner, and now they're denying it, probably not to get in trouble with production.

But even before that, the real thing is that it happened in the first place.

You know, the Tamara moment, the naked wasted episode happened in the first place.

That was the real travesty.

And I think every bit of blame belongs on Tamara and Vicki and Gina and everybody else.

Just shut up.

That was mine million years ago.

Okay.

Do you want to talk about what I was doing when we started this podcast 13 years ago?

No, you don't.

I see the Facebook memories of it and it was terrifying.

It was terrifying.

Okay.

And I don't want to have to watch you either.

It's like watching your Facebook memories.

I don't want to see your gumdrop hair or all your crazy shit that you were doing.

By the way, your gumdrop hair has stuck in my head that you call for gumdrop.

I love that.

I heard you.

Just say that right now.

That means so happy.

That is stuck in my head.

I've laughed about it all weekend.

I don't want to see your gumdrop hair or, you know, I don't want to see you 12 faces ago.

I feel like I'm an inception.

I need to be stuck.

I need to stay in the present, guys.

It's the power of now.

Okay.

It's a self-help book.

Read it.

And also, let's also not forget.

Also, let's not also forget.

Let me just say also five more times in one sentence.

But

we're acting as if people were like, like between Gretchen and Sheena and Kiki and Katie, that people were like lighting bombs and breaking the internet like like

like putting this all out there to the universe for maximum exploitation and the truth was it was all just like you know people whispering and having little pun intended kikis and they were like i heard this i heard this but no one was like being outright like oh write a headline about this do this no one was like blatantly doing that and and the person who made it a thing the person who brought it into the public because all of these people, despite knowing it, did not put it onto their various platforms.

It was Tamra.

Tamara is the one who did this.

And she didn't even do it to say, I'm so upset at you, Gretchen, that you would say this.

She did it solely to turn Gretchen against Katie.

And it's like, she's so malevolent.

I mean, it's wild.

And it worked.

Don't forget.

And as far as everybody else, you know, Katie, you're wrong for taking that conversation.

You should know not to sit with Slade Smiley and take anything that Slade Smiley says seriously because Slate's a fucking liar and a crazy person.

So you're bad for taking that and gossiping about it to a blogger.

Gretchen, you're bad for marrying Slate in the first place.

What a fucking loser.

And for gossiping about that if you didn't want to get out and now lying about it.

And who else is in this?

Kiki Monique, you shouldn't have been taking shit that you heard and then gossiping about it to other journalists.

And then

who's the other one?

Dave Quinn, you shouldn't be calling Tamron tattletailing.

I mean, what the hell kind of magazine writer are you?

You can't be tattletailing to all the housewives.

I demand integrity.

So all of you are wrong.

All of you.

And it sucks that the person who's the most wrong in this, Tamra, is the one that's winning.

You bunch of dummies.

You gave Tamra a win.

You gave Tamra a clean win.

She's even doing well in comments now.

People are like, we love you, Tamara.

I mean,

she's magic.

She's a magician.

I'll give her that.

So you dummies just handed her a win.

I think

also

the nice thing that happened out of all this was that over the weekend, you know, it it was like opening weekend for football and Katie,

there was like a, there's an Instagram story and Katie has like landed some sort of Taco Bell partnership.

There was definitely something that said like hashtag Taco Bell partner or whatever, sponsored SpawnCon, sponsored link, sponsored content.

And everyone has just been delighting in the fact that.

Katie wound up with a taco contract and Emily didn't.

So

second personal Bravo because Lindsay was the first.

I got the Taco contract.

And now Katie Janelle got a taco contract.

Good for her.

You're going to go to Taco Belt and you're going to order like a chalupa.

And then when you get to the counter, they're going to give you nachos.

And you're going to be like,

you said you were going to give me a chalupa.

I never said that.

Yes, you did.

No, I never said that.

I ordered a chalupa.

No, you didn't.

They're going to call Katie and they're going to call Kiki Monique.

And Kiki Monique is going to be like,

they got a burrito.

No, I didn't.

I was going to let you in a line of Taco Belt.

I want to defend Kiki on one point here.

I'm seeing a lot of people in the comments being like, she shouldn't have talked to this person.

She shouldn't have talked to that person.

And like, theoretically, sure, sure, theoretically.

But the truth is, like, you know, when you're with friends, and especially if you're friends in like the Bravo world, you know, sometimes you might say something like, oh, like, I went out with so-and-so and they were a mess.

I went with so and they were saying crazy shit.

They were saying this or that.

And you sort of like feel like there's like a sort of a code of, I think, content creators, a bit where it's like, we don't put it on the air, you know, set behind closed doors.

You know, there is a certain amount of like note sharing that does happen and like we don't put like everyone's shit on blast people don't tell us stuff and then we just go and blab it for sure but every time we just sometimes you tell stories about like a real housewife that you went out with or something like that and i just don't think that kiki should be like like hung like crucified

for talking excoriated for talking to one of her friends and talking to like someone who else is sort of in the quote unquote industry and in the circle because we all do it okay we all do it and what happened what's bad is that someone then went and brought it to Tamara.

And that's bad.

And they should not have done that.

But like, I think, you know, like,

so yeah, I mean, look, ultimately, I don't know.

That's what Tamara said, but you know, Tamara said that on Jeff's podcast, on Jeff's radio show.

But, you know, look, yeah, she was messy.

I think TT was messy.

But I also think that, yeah, you're allowed to gossip with your friends.

Right.

And we know that she's friends with Jacques.

And then Jacques probably went and, and according to Tamara, went from Jacques to Dave Quinn to Dave Quinn to Tamara.

So then Jacques was messy and

talked to Tamara about it.

Was also my question is, was Jacques the person who told Katie in the first place that the paparazzi were hired by Heather?

Because you know that Katie said she has connections to someone who knows all the paparazzi and isn't he daily mail.

So is that Jacques too?

I want to know.

Someone get the answer.

Yeah, she was messy, but ultimately, Kiki did not,

Kiki did not release the information.

You know what I mean?

She didn't come on the air and she didn't go on her Instagram.

She didn't make it a thing.

You know, she gossiped, which was wrong, but Dave Quinn told Tamara and then Tamara made it a thing.

So exactly.

She was much.

She gossiped, but I think

lady over it.

Honestly, I can imagine if I had found out like, oh, yeah, and then I heard that like

that Tamara had roofied Gretchen or Gretchen said that Tamra roofied her or something like that, or even said there were drugs in the system.

I can imagine having cocktails with like, I don't know, like Courtney from Two Judgy Girls and Mary too and being like, you know what?

I heard?

I heard that.

Isn't that crazy after all these years?

Like she's, you know, that happened.

Like, ha ha.

Moving on, get some goches balls.

And if they went and they, they released that, we'd be pissed, you know, because you're supposed to be able to gossip.

You're supposed to be able to gossip with your fellow like podcasters.

You are allowed to.

And again, like, there's stuff that just stays with me and Ronnie.

But like, but stupid shit like that, because let's not forget this is all just like a little thing, a little comment stupid shit like that sort of flies around between all of the content creators all the time and uh someone violated it someone violated the pact of the content creators yeah you're all messy you're all messy all of you shame shame

yeah yeah

i want to defend kiki on that note a little bit okay

Yeah, because it does become kind of a feeding frenzy, you know, everyone's like, well, fuck Kern.

Yeah.

I don't think it's that.

I think I hope it's lesson learned, but also it's hard to be friends with all these people on Bravo, right?

You know, you can't get too close with these people and then still report on them in a way that people are going to trust you.

Like you can't be going and hanging out with Janet and then being like, well, I like Janet.

She's nice.

Like Janet sucks.

Like you have to be able, if you're going to recap Bravo, you have to be able to say who sucks and who doesn't suck, even if you like them sometimes.

Just like I'm doing now when I like you, you know, like you have to be able to do that.

So I think it would be just very hard to be friends with all these people.

You know, we've, we've made arm's length friendships with people, but we are very honest with them that we're going to still give them shit the next day.

And I think that's extremely important to do because, you know,

you can't be going to standing up for people just because they're being nice to you.

They're not stupid.

They're trying to make you say good things about them.

Don't get tricked.

Don't get tricked.

Don't get tricked.

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