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Well, hello, everybody, and welcome to Watch What Crappens?

I'm Ronnie, and that's Ben over there.

Hi, Ben.

Hello, everyone.

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And it could be the final crappy hour ever.

I mean, Virgin could be our final sponsor because tomorrow is the rapture, people.

It is the rapture.

Holy people are going to heaven and the rest of us are safe.

Wait a second.

Wait, why is there a rapture on Russia Shauna?

By the way, happy Russia, Shauna.

It's my fellow people.

Happy Rapture, Shauna.

No, happy Russia Shauna.

Yeah.

Wait, why is there a rapture tomorrow?

Where did that come from?

I feel like normally there's like a hard hype leading up.

No, I thought like normally there's like remember when there was one in like 2012 it was like everyone's talking about the rapture the rapture may 20th may 21st whenever it was you can't just like have a surprise rapture it doesn't work that way I didn't know till a few days ago I started seeing all these tick tocks posted on reddit of people being like y'all the rapture's coming we're so excited you know we're selling all our stuff i'm just sitting out here looking at the stars and just i just can't wait for rapture day like people are so excited that think they're getting raptured i saw a lady today who was like going to walmart to buy more bibles which i don't know do you just need those for the raptures like to prove that you're like the most religious i don't know but she was stocking up on bibles and she was leaving like to go when she left notes on how to take care of her pets i guess the sinners are going to stay down here and take care of all the holy people's pets i guess that's how the rapture works that's how it seems to be in their mind so the rapture does not take animals to just humans i guess well some people are like oh my gosh will they take the dogs you know that's like a big thing on TikTok right now.

They're like, is Jesus going to take our dogs or just us?

But I used to be, I was raised that the rapture meant that the sinners all burn.

I think we all burn down here and then the holy people get taken up.

But I think now people are like, oh, no, you just have to stay on earth and take care of our pets, I guess.

Oh, okay.

So it's just basically like free dog sitting.

Okay.

Yeah.

Dog sitting.

Okay.

Well, I hope that there's no rapture tomorrow because Real Housewives of Salt Lake City is on.

So I would, that'd be terrible timing.

We're just

KDC says some of us can finally get a house.

Yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

That's hilarious.

Well, guys, I got a huge deal on this house.

You know, the rapture market.

It was, it was, it was pretty good this year.

The new show on HGTV, Rapture Hunters.

It's like, well, now that a whole bunch of inventory has opened up, Joyce and Michael have decided to move to Manhattan.

One of their, one of their places is close to the center of town.

The other place is close to the burning fiery pits of hell.

Which will they choose?

Great news, everyone.

Lola Broadhead says she's in the UK.

It's 1.33 a.m.

and the rapture has not happened yet.

Fingers crossed.

Fingers crossed.

I mean, it's all look, it's already happened.

I mean, look, I mean, if you're like in Asia,

you've been, you've been in prime rapture time for many hours.

Does the rapture care about time zones?

Is it like...

Yeah, that's the thing.

No one knows what time exactly because there's so many different time zones, you know, so people are going to be waiting for a while.

It's not going to be like, I was completely wrong at 6 a.m.

You know, it's going to take a couple of days.

And then they're, you know, we'll see if there are a couple of days left.

It's like, it's like finding you have a package that's showing up with FedEx Ground and you're like, well, it's out for delivery.

It's arriving sometime today.

And then at like 4.30, you're like, sorry, it's coming in.

We don't really know when it's coming in.

You'll get an update in a few days.

You're like, but what about

exactly?

Yeah, you've been rescheduled.

The rapture has been rescheduled.

So just wait.

So I don't know.

We'll see.

Time will tell.

Okay.

Time will tell.

But good luck to everybody out there.

I hope we get taken.

Well, happy Russiashana for real.

I forgot that it was tonight.

I thought it was tomorrow.

It is tomorrow, but I forgot that it actually starts tonight.

I'm being a bad Jew.

So apologies to whoever was hoping that I'd make them a Russian Shana dinner tonight because I'm not, because I didn't, and I have no apples.

And I went to the market today and I still didn't buy any apples, which was my failure.

But, but, but, you know what?

But, but, uh, blue is a very Jewish color, and we're both in blue.

We're blue.

So,

you know what?

We're honoring this is our honor.

This is our fancy Russian Shauna t-shirt.

So, let's talk some Bravo stuff, shall we?

Let's let's kick off the new year with some Bravo,

some Bravo Goss, shall we?

Okay, well, what do you want to start with?

Well, you know what?

Actually, there's something I want to start with.

I always like to start, you know, with like a little stupid thing.

There's something we have not addressed.

And I don't know if you've even seen this.

Have you been aware on TikTok and on social media that Sara from Real House of Dubai has gone viral?

Have you seen her little quote going all over social media?

From a few weeks ago?

The one where she's like, Don't, don't let your job, don't do the job you love, love the

job, job your love.

Job your love.

Yeah, job your love.

Yeah, that's been going on for a while.

It's been going on for a while, but I feel like we've never addressed it.

And I feel like we just have to address, like, we have to say, like, we are aware that this is happening.

And I think it's what's to me so funny about it is that for the, for the majority of the world, for like the entire world population minus like 25 000 people

they have no idea who this lady is she just shows up out of nowhere saying this and then for those of us who know who sarah is i think this is the most hilarious thing because i just love that we sat through two seasons of her speaking utter bullshit that makes no sense being a total faker And now she's basically getting roasted by the world.

And of course, she sees it as praise.

She sees it as like her message getting.

Oh my God, I went viral.

You know, like I said, don't do the job you love.

drop your love drop your job or whatever don't love your job job your love yeah she tries to explain what this actually means don't love your job job your love job your love tries to explain it as like you know the love that you have like treat it like a job like go and like you know show up and like you put in your hours and like that's your love like that's that's what's like shut up sarah yeah and then the fact that like she they all had to say doctor sarah all mom danny when she like went like she had like this bogus not I'm not going to say bogus, but she got a stupid degree.

She got a stupid doctorate.

And now everyone has to call her a doctor.

She's just, I don't know.

Well, you know,

I think I never brought it up because I feel like we've already done that before when we talked about Dubai because we would always make comments like that.

You know, because she was always making some spiritual platitude bullshit comments.

And so I felt like we had already done so many riffs on that that it just seemed like one of those times where something we constantly made fun of literally came true right in front of our eyes.

And it just made me feel good.

I will tell you this much.

That girl's not getting raptured because,

you know, God's like, no,

don't drop your love.

Don't

drop your love.

Don't love your rapture, rapture your love.

Which actually makes more sense than what she says.

Yeah.

That's one thing I do.

She's still a dummy.

So there are some real housewives of New York casting rumors.

Well, first, I saw a clip of an interview with Erin, Erin Leachy, queen of...

Oh, wow.

You know, you all, even if you don't watch New York, you might know her as the person who brought a very special alcohol to America for the first time.

Yeah, Mezcal.

Mezcal.

She brought Mezcal to America.

What an innovator.

We had never heard of Erin.

It was pretty good.

It's pretty good.

I heard Mezcal.

I heard it's great.

I'm so glad that she invented it.

She's the Christopher Columbus of Mezcal.

She really is.

She brought it over to America in blankets filled with smallpox um yeah her mezcal is her smallpox blanket yeah remember that next time you take a sip

aaron who is just full of so much personality and really one has to credit aaron for really

you know being a breakout star on that reboot you know thank god for her thank god for all that humor and personality She's just so Erin in this interview.

So she's talking about, you know, who she knows from the original, the OG cast and she's like yeah well like i see sonia but like she never remembers who i am i mean it's like ridiculous i'm like hello like i literally know you like we've literally met and she just every time she sees me she's like who are you i mean really i mean aaron you're aaron you know aaron and sonia's sonia too like you're forgettable and she's forgetful i mean what do you expect yeah

and then she says that her mom she says luann's a blast.

Dorinda's a blast.

Bethany's actually been very nice to me on DM.

Like she really, she told me where to get the best chicken salad.

I thought that was really nice.

But her mom lives in Ramona's apartment building, not her apartment, but her apartment building.

And they ran into each other.

And my mom said something to her, like, oh yeah, my daughter's on the show now.

And she's like, oh, yeah, I don't watch that.

It's doing terribly.

And my mom's like, dying.

She's like, okay, thanks.

That's so Ramona.

That's so remote.

I'm like, you know what?

I'm sorry.

And, you know, I can't watch the reboot.

You know what?

I was doing terribly.

Okay.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

But from what I've heard, everyone on this show looks older than me.

Okay.

Cause I look young.

They look old.

I look young.

They look old.

Yeah.

Okay.

So there are casting rumors on Real Housewives of New York.

I mean, you got to hand it to them for, they just keep trying, you know?

And that's commendable.

yeah it really is so uh we know that bryn is gone we know that rebecca minkoff becky becky minkoff is gone becky yeah bex becky

um so there's uh over on entertainmentnow.com there's a handy infographic actually this came the infographic really came from the ig account where what happens live so by the way there's no there's there's there's nothing that says any of this is true this is just what's going through the gossip mill right now and so the goss is that returning players are Cy, Aaron, Jessel, and maybe Jenna.

How do you feel about just that rumor alone?

I mean, fine.

Fine.

I think I just need more time, you know?

I need more time.

What if time was the next person coming back?

It's going to be Cy, Aaron, Jessel, and Time.

And we worry about this after rapture time.

It's one of those stories where I'm like, eh, I don't know that I'm ready.

Yeah, I just need some more time.

I mean, look,

every season we try and scrub the DVR of our brains and start anew.

So I just hope it's better.

The last one was super not great and ended really badly.

So I don't know.

I don't know that any of that was these people's fault, but I don't really credit them with giving a great season either.

So I guess we'll just have to wait and see, you know?

I hope it's great.

I want New York to be great.

So that's what I'll say.

I'll keep it positive like that.

I want New York to be great.

So whatever you're doing over there, i hope you do it greatly

i think that's a great that's a great attitude i think we all i think we're actually all rooting we're like terra banks we're rooting for you we're all rooting for you we want new york to be great it has a great legacy i'm not trying to be a pun with that but it does have a great legacy and we want nothing but the best it's one of the greatest cities in the nation if not the world it has such a unique identity like it just needs to be given a cast that should reflect the greatness of New York, but actually maybe not the true greatness of New York, because they actually tried to address the true greatness of New York by showing like of this big, diverse cast of fascinating, you know, art, art arty, fashion-forward people.

But it's like, no, I actually want kind of the worst of New York.

I kind of want the awful people in the Upper East Side who are tone deaf and obnoxious and they go to the Hamptons.

They don't understand, they don't understand how much things cost and they're terrible.

Like, that's actually what I want.

I want to go into their worlds.

I don't need to go into an influencer's world.

I know,

I don't, it's not exciting for me to go into a Bryn Winfield world.

So well, it's also also, I think, one thing they were trying to do, you know, beyond the diversity, because New York had been getting in so much trouble because of comments that need that

not Dorinda, that Ramona was making and the season with Ebony and all that that happened.

That was a disaster of a season.

And I think that they were coming back thinking, you know what?

We'll give the audience what they want, non-problematic people who aren't going to get canceled.

And of course, that ended up backfiring with Bryn.

But at the time, you you know, you could kind of see what they were going for.

The problem with that is non-problematic people who don't aren't going to get canceled any minute don't make good housewives.

To be a good real housewife, you have to be insane and you have to prepare to try and cancel.

Like they're going to cancel them at some point.

They're going to say something.

They're going to be so bold that they're going to get in trouble.

And that's part of being a real housewife.

And it's nothing to do with the diversity.

It doesn't mean you have to have a bunch of ignorant white ladies, but they're ignorant people of every color.

And I think they should all be represented.

Absolutely.

There are plenty of crazy people from all walks of life that they should find.

And instead, Bravo tried to do something that was like, I don't know, out of the pages of like Cosmo or something.

And it was like, no one wants Cosmo.

We want to walk we want to like see the stupid people from like town and country or something.

But yeah, we need it.

We need to fix that.

However, I mean, it wasn't a total outright failure.

I do think that Jessel was a great find.

Someone who is delusional, who is ridiculous, who says ridiculous things.

Like that's where Jesse,

Jesse was so strong.

They did not send her this last season.

I always said that was a mistake.

I think Erin, I don't know, Erin, like, I believe it or not, I actually was rooting for Erin to be better than she was.

I think Erin was, she was trying.

She, she understood the assignment, but she just couldn't execute it the way I think that she saw that she could.

She knew that she had to stir the pot.

She knew she had to get into things, but she just wasn't compelling in the in way she did it and um you know i think sigh was most improved so when they said that jessal the rumor is jessil and psy come back i can't believe that i'm actually in a place where i'm like okay with psy being back because after the first season i like i never wanted to see her on my tv again

uh yeah they changed yeah um but still not hilarious um

Cy or Aaron.

So I need more hilarity.

So let's see who we've got here.

One lady is named Nicole Daisy Toye, Martha Stewart's makeup artist.

I appreciate the link to Martha Stewart.

I don't feel like makeup artists is,

I don't feel like makeup artists is where we should go for a real housewife.

Yeah, like we need Martha Stewart.

We don't need Martha Stewart's

artist.

I mean, what the hell?

We want to be aspirational.

Now, of course, there's like makeup artists that are like the top of their career and they are like very esteemed and they are artists and they are like really wonderful at what they they do.

And by the way, almost to a T, every single makeup artist I've ever met in my entire life has always been absolutely batshit crazy, oftentimes in a great way, in a great hilarious way.

But I think that these shows are about the people who employ the makeup artists, not necessarily the makeup artists.

Well, wait, you're going to get another one because now we have June Ambrose, who is a celebrity stylist.

Okay, that's just a whole different show.

You know what I mean?

Put June and Nicole on a different show where stylists are going out and fighting with each other and like fighting over clients and stuff like that.

I feel like I've heard of June Ambrose before.

I don't know where I've heard of her before.

I'm sure someone's going to weigh in.

Well, her picture's like this.

She's like looking up, which I like.

I like that Carrie's shoot.

I don't, I just came in.

I missed the context of this, but Carrie in the comments says, Carol is garbage.

So a perfect housewife.

Great.

I'm always good for

anyone garbage.

Yeah, June Ampers.

Yeah, I don't know.

Stylist, my concern with a stylist is

that like we just sort of had two seasons of people coming from that world and it was not great.

So Brianna is saying now, June has been in the game for over 30 years.

Right.

She's famous, right?

She's, she's never been, right?

And a lot of this is to not, a lot of this, we, I mean, we don't know.

We see just like a little, they're literally teeny, tiny pictures with their names and what they do.

So this is all blind.

We don't, we don't have any idea if these people would be good or not Because when I first saw Ramona Singer on TV, I said, absolutely not.

And I would not watch that show because she looked insane.

She was like, well, like just that kind of cross-eyed, like

look.

I just, uh, and just her attitude.

And I, I thought, no, how, how, why would they cast this person?

Which, of course.

Once I did start watching it, completely understood how they cast her.

But, you know, you never really know until you see somebody in their element if they're going to be good or not.

So the next one by the way i just want to say people in the comments are really like they're saying that june is really she's sort of like an icon she's been in the game for a long time and people seem to be actually quite excited at the idea of june being a real housewife so

that's good i'm actually going to trust our listeners on this because i know our list like we're all kind of on the same page and if our listeners are saying she's been around for a while and if she was on the show like that would be a get i i trust that okay like I believe that.

Just have like we always said that like on Beverly Hills, like, why do they not have Nicolette Sheridan, right?

Like, where's Nicolette Sheridan?

I kind of feel like it sort of seems like maybe we're getting some of that energy here with June Ambrose.

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So the next one up is Erica Faye Jones, who's a real estate developer.

And it's interesting that she has Faye in her name because she has Faye Resnick face.

And here, you know what?

I'm going to share this so we can show people these

who we're talking about.

Why not?

Window, share the window, share the ladies.

Let's bring the ladies up, shall we?

Okay, so Erica Faye is right here.

I'm getting Faye face, aren't you?

And her name is Erica Faye.

Yeah, and on top of that, actually, I'm looking at some other pictures on Google Images, and she sort of has like an

Eva Lingoria meets Lindsay from Summerhouse Face 2, which I think is like a great sign.

That's a great, that's a great combo.

Eric Jones.

This is the one photo.

What's her name?

Jones.

Okay.

Let's see.

Let's go to Google Images.

Let's see.

Yeah, this is the picture they used, which is kind of Fay Face, right?

Oh, my God.

Oh, that's Charlie Kirk's wife.

Is that what that is?

Erica Faye Jones divorced.

Who is that?

I'm getting all my faces mixed up.

I'm like, they got Charlie Kirk's wife to be on New York.

Let's start spreading the rumor.

Isn't that who this is?

Yeah, former summer history.

It might be.

It might be.

I think that is her, right?

I think it probably is.

Oh, Google Images is trolling us.

Okay.

So that's her.

So I don't know.

She's a real estate developer.

What do I know?

Okay.

So then we get.

By the way, JR in the comments says that Martha is makeup artist has her own company and is really rich.

Okay.

I need to say that.

I need to say that.

Like makeup company.

Yeah.

Say like rich, crazy lady with a makeup company.

That's how you sell it.

You don't tell me she's someone's makeup artist.

That's a, that's a different.

Makeup entrepreneur like Chanel Ion.

Speaking of, somebody in the comments also said Chanel said she was going to be moving to New York while her son went to school.

So come on, people, pay attention.

I think we need to, like, with Real Housewives of Dubai, they just really need to take that cast.

It's like, it should be like a corporate reorg.

Just like put everyone, just put them on, just scatter them into different shows.

Put Caroline Brooks here, put Chanel there, put Caroline Stanbury somewhere else.

Like, just there is raw talent on that show.

Let's not lose it.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

Who do we have next here?

I'm looking at a different window.

You go next.

Do you still have it up?

Okay.

Yes.

Chanel Jones.

Chanel Jones?

Cheyennelle?

She's a Today Show host.

So I like that because she can always be like, oh, hi, ladies.

How are we doing?

Oh, I know.

I love today's show hosts, like Huda.

I mean, wasn't Hoda?

Wasn't Hoda.

Sorry.

Hoda.

I had a

Hoda Today Show.

Hoda

third hour.

I liked her when she was always like, hey, how's everybody doing?

Today we're going over a new kind of coffee that I can't live without.

I can't live without it.

I love coffee.

I like that constantly laughing on the verge of maniacal, you know, shakes kind of a person.

I think if you're going to do like a TV host, like you have to like, it's a double-edged sword because either they're like very fake and they're not going to really give you their true self because they have a broadcasting career they care about or like you want someone like Stacey from Potomac who maybe is like out of a job or moved to this to get like a higher job and has like that fake thing, but you can see there's like chicanery like underneath the surface that comes out in a really fun way.

Like, so I think that's

her gardener or something, you know, like I think that there's something under that maniacal like happiness.

There's always something, like, she pinches babies or something, you know?

So, I'm, I'm the same as you.

I'm rooting for it.

Erica Faye Jones is Giselle's Bryant's best friend and business partner, says Michael Horn, who is, by the way, Michael Horne has a podcast.

You all should listen to it.

I think we did know that.

But didn't Erica show up on some Potomac episodes now that Michael says it?

Yeah, I didn't know that.

I feel like she showed up.

I think she did.

I think that that's a plus, right?

Okay, so now we have Sarah Wettenhall, owner of the colony, Palm Beach and Hedges, East Hampton.

Oh,

put her in.

She's going to be awful.

She's a yes.

She's going to be awful.

She sounds terrible.

Let's do it.

Bring her.

She's terrible.

She is capitalizing off of super wealthy people, and she probably has certain ideas of like what's right and what's wrong.

And she's probably ass backwards.

Get her in there right away.

Yeah.

So this is nine people, including Jenna.

So we'll see how this pans out.

But you know what?

You guys keep on cooking in that kitchen and I can't wait to see what you bring out.

And I would say this,

I'm going to say that Jenna, I think that she should be a friend of.

I think I had high hopes for Jenna because I loved her show, whatever, I'm blanking what it was called, but the show that she had on HBO Max before this, I thought she was quirky and fun and fabulous.

And it, that did not translate onto housewives.

So I appreciate that, appreciate that Jenna is original and she's like a different type of housewife.

And I like that.

I do like that she's very successful and wealthy.

And, um, but I think that like maybe she might need like a friend of season.

And then we can reevaluate to see if she can come back to like full-fledged housewife.

But I love her.

I just don't know if she's, I don't, I don't know if she was quite compelling enough to be housewife.

Well, there are other rumors swirling about real housewives of New Jersey casting.

There have been rumors that Teresa is not being asked back because she's refusing to film with Melissa still.

So

basically in one in one interview, she says, I'm not desperate for that job.

I'll be fine.

Blink, blink, blink, blink, blink.

And in another,

she, because then people were like, oh my God, Teresa's really not coming back.

And then so in another interview, she was like, well, you know, like my door is like cracked.

Like, you know, like, I'm kind of open to it.

You know, like, I could maybe like making it, make up with her, but like, we'll see how it goes.

So she's she's kind of backpedaling on that.

And someone said, hey, Teresa, is it true you're not coming back to Real Housewives of New Jersey?

And she was like,

whatever.

I'm the OG.

Think, think, think, think, ping, ping.

I cannot tell.

I really cannot tell what the situation is with Teresa.

I keep on saying that Bravo is never going to drop Teresa, but people are saying like, like, Louis is like too much of a liability.

I really don't know how it's going to shake out.

Well,

we still don't know what's going on with jersey but apparently it's they've got a lot of headlines coming out so i think that it's something's going on over there because the publicity machine is back on it's it's gearing up recently um jen fessler and jackie goldschneider were

um they were at the page six virtual reality after party for their award show that they had and

they're jen's like well it's me jen fessler here with Jackie Gold tonight.

We're just having a blast at this party.

What a great night.

And Jackie's like, you know where our friendship went wrong?

Was when you cared only about the famous people in the room and you didn't value our friendship.

And it's just a long silence because they're just like recording some random thing at a party.

Yeah.

Where the fuck did I?

And Jackie's like audibly wasted.

Like you can hear her.

She's like, yeah, you don't appreciate me.

Like you appreciate everybody else.

And that hurts me, Jen Fessler.

And Jen's like, oh, well, I didn't realize you felt that way.

I've slept with Tony Soprano.

I don't know if you've heard.

She's like, yeah, well, it hurt me.

And all you care about is fame.

And she's like,

well, I'm sorry that you feel like that.

Maybe we could talk about that at a different time.

Well, you know, it's just very hurtful because I invested so much into our friendship.

that you don't even care about me.

You only care about famous people.

You're always looking towards the door to see who's coming in.

You don't care about me.

Only with me.

What about Jackie?

i mean i really like jackie but this is very rich coming from the person who like dropped margaret to go hang out with teresa like i don't know like it's i'm like you know jackie your reputation on this front has not been stellar i have to i have to say

yeah that's true that's a good point um but no the audio is pretty amazing you should listen to it i'm thinking i should have been making it like an extended ringtone because it was just so awkward and jen fessler is just trying to have fun And they're at this fun award show and Jackie was just not having it.

This is, this is when they were recording a pod.

She was drunk during their podcast.

No, no, it was an after party for their award show.

They just had their award show.

Yeah.

Oh, it was caught on audio.

I thought this was like their podcast that she said that.

No, I think they were doing like a live, like an Instagram live or something from the after party.

And this is when she chose to bring this up.

And she's like, you know, we're on live right now.

It's like, yeah, and that's what i'm saying you should respect our friendship i invested so much into this friendship

you know jennifer in the comments says ben you really like jackie she's shown who she really is and she sucks no i agree i think that jackie has fully she fully fell on her her face this last season and i don't like i don't like how she treated margaret And I think also like her role in that stupid scandal.

I don't even remember exactly what it was at this point anymore, that she was the one who talked to the person, the woman and said was really, really bad.

I still, I always liked her as a real housewife.

I just, um, I think she lost her way.

And so, um, I would like her to have a season where she like a redemption season, but she ended on a sucky note.

So, like, if people say, like, oh, Jackie sucks, like, I wouldn't be like, no, she's the best.

I'd be like, yeah, well, she had a sucky last season.

And you know what?

That's what happens.

You have a sucky last, if, if you, if you suck in your season, you never know if you're going to get another season to redeem yourself.

And so that's why you always got to be awesome.

Yeah.

But, you know, just the awkward silences, just the making it awkward and the amount of awkward silences in that recording.

I was like, okay, well, you know, I wouldn't mind if we revisited Jackie because that shit's funny.

I was cracking up.

And just hearing Jen Fessler again.

Because she's still so Jen Fessler.

It made me excited for Jersey.

Yeah.

I mean, this is good.

We're building up a...

a jersey, a Jersey desire, but I wonder if like, I wonder if Rhode Island is going to just like steal all that thunder because like really the talk has been about rhode island and what they just finished filming ray and so now they're getting ready for their

like that's going to be i feel like all the attention is going to be there i wonder if there's going to be any rhode island cast reveals or anything that's going to happen at bravo con what do you think probably yeah it seems like they're holding a lot for bravo con right yeah i feel like there's going to be some like maybe they'll like introduce the casts even if they're not ready to show us any footage but i would be i feel like they'll have some footage or maybe like a sizzle, not a sizzle, but like a teaser, if not a full trailer for BravoCon.

And I, I think we're going to get that.

And I think we're going to get a Vanderpunk Rules teaser and maybe even the Ladies of London.

I think we're going to get everything at BravoCon.

Everything.

Oh my God, Ladies of London.

Yes.

I hope they don't fumble, Ladies of London.

I'm so excited.

I know.

All the teasers are coming out.

I mean, like, we also had the Summerhouse teaser.

Speaking of Summerhouse, there was like the tiniest little teaser that dropped a few days ago that was basically giving us what we've always dreamed of, which is a spin-off that what happens in the city in between the weekends.

And I cannot tell you, I am so excited for this.

I am so, so excited.

Like this is what I've wanted for like nine years.

Yeah,

that's going to be good.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, yeah, of course.

I mean, it depends on which way they go.

We didn't see anything.

They didn't show us anything except that we're going to have a city spin-off.

So I don't know who's going to be in that.

So I don't know.

I'm reserved.

But yeah, I'm excited.

At this point, Bravo's got me to the point where I'm just so excited to see anything.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

I'm like, come on,

give me something here.

Like, what am I doing tonight?

Nothing.

Okay.

I mean, this, but, you know, after this, I'm like, I'm watching baking show.

Come on, man.

Give me something, Bravo.

Ronnie, your lighting's looking really good all of a sudden.

It was good all the entire time, but you have this nice, like.

Oh, it's getting dark outside.

That's why I think.

Yeah, it's getting dark.

So you're looking very highlighted.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Thank you, son, for going down.

You're really working with my cheekbones.

Ronnie, Ben, Ronnie, how was the Jeff Lewis party?

I heard it was a mess with Kelly, Todd, and her and her husband there.

I'll just say husband.

Yeah, there was some drama at that Jeff Lewis party.

You know what?

Look.

I'm a very liberal person.

They're very conservative people.

And Kelly and I both have very extreme tempers.

And we have fought many a time, actually.

We argue almost every time we see each other.

And this was no exception.

But that said, we also laugh together quite a bit, but we don't agree on anything.

And so we got into kind of a screaming match in the middle of this hotel lobby, me and the couple.

And it went on and on.

I just couldn't believe some of the stuff I was hearing.

We've made up for, I'm not going to get into it because it's politics.

And we don't really talk about that on this show because it's especially right now.

It's really inflaming everybody.

Obviously, it inflamed me.

I lost my shit, basically, is what happened.

And I was, I woke up feeling like I should have been more embarrassed than I was, but I wasn't really.

But it was, it was ugly.

It ended well.

We decided to agree to disagree.

And

that's pretty much how that ended.

But yeah, I don't know how I expected to go to a Jeff Lewis thing and for there not to be drama, but I didn't necessarily expect that it was going to be, you know, with me.

But listen, listen, one thing I love is screaming in arguments with people that I disagree with.

So I had a good night, ultimately.

But I think everything I had to say, I said to their face, and I think they did too.

And we ended it

as well as, you know, we ended it well.

We agreed to disagree with you.

You guys were like, you know, you guys were like.

having this whole political argument.

I was like, oh my God, are we really doing this right here?

You guys were like fighting.

And then all of a sudden, three seconds later, you guys were like clutching each other.

Like, oh my God, I love you.

It was like literally, you know, in those real housewives episodes when like people go from like like on miami when they're like like when stephanie and alexia are like fighting the next thing you know it's like i love you it's like that's what you guys i was like i can't you guys are being so silly but it was it was you guys were having a political argument but it was not as it wasn't very deep in terms of like well it wasn't that deep i mean look you've everybody's been having the same arguments all over the country i don't think anything either one of us said was groundbreaking or new it was basically liberal talking points versus conservative talk i just was so i just got so pissed because you know Kelly is not some wilting flower.

I mean, Kelly, when she argues, it's like, dude, you're wrong.

Communism.

You know, she's, that's, that was that.

And so then, of course, I start matching that.

And then before you know it, we're not even taking it that seriously.

But at one point,

you know, everybody's sitting there just like this, you know, looking at us.

And I was like, oh, okay.

Well, I guess we should wrap this up.

So basically I was like, look, you know, Kelly, I've never agreed with you.

We have a long history of disagreeing and getting in fights, but we always find a way to make up and still laugh together when we're in the same place.

And, you know, it's ridiculous to, to, in this country, we're on such different pages right now.

We do have to be able to communicate with each other.

Even when you don't agree, it's important to tell people when you think their ideas are stupid and not just let them pass by because there are some times I cannot just.

be quiet, but it's also important to kind of listen, I guess, and then have the conversation because I mean, what else are we going to do?

We're just all going going to be beating each other up in the street soon.

So, yeah, that was that.

So, yeah, that happened, but it ended.

It ended okay.

Yeah.

It was quite, it was, it was, it was funny.

It was funny.

And the worst part was that I wanted to go home because I was like, I hadn't had dinner yet.

And I wanted to go home and like, just like watch shows for the podcast.

But then I was like, if I leave now, then it seems like I'm running away from this thing.

And I was like, I don't, I'm not running away.

I'm not uncomfortable.

I'm not awkward.

I just want to go home.

And it's like, you know what?

You know, when you're like ready to just like you're like, you're ready to start saying your buys at a party and then something happens and then you like, you can't.

And I was having a really fun time at the party, but like, you know, like, it was just one of those things like, oh, now I've got to sit here.

And they're having, like, the last thing I want to do is sit here during a political argument in the middle of this hotel.

But it was, well, it had been a long week of just reading stuff and reading in the news and reading all these

fucking idiotic things being said.

And I just, people were just sitting there letting it happen.

And I was like hell no like i just started getting so pissed and i'm pretty i've gotten pretty good as i've gotten older about keeping my temper in check but good lord it left me that day and at one point i was just like it you know like if i'm never meeting people again i don't care the best part the best part was at one point Ronnie leaned back in his chair and he crossed his legs and he cupped his hands around his knee and he goes, I'm sitting back.

I'm sitting back.

I'm not interrupting.

I'm sitting back.

Oh, yeah.

They said, let me talk.

Let me talk.

I'm like, they're screaming.

And they're like, no, you have to let the other side talk too.

And I was like, okay, fine.

So I sat back and crossed my legs and said, fine, talk.

And they're like, let me talk.

Let me talk.

I said, I'm sitting back and crossing my legs.

Like, that is letting you talk.

Fucking talk.

Let me talk.

I said, but you are talking.

No, but let me talk.

I said, you're talking.

It was.

It was a sight to behold, everyone.

And I'm so glad it was, it was like, it's, I'm so glad it's over.

Um, but yeah, you guys, but like, yeah, it was, I don't know if, I don't know, someone says they were talking about

you know, they said, you should just ignore stuff like that.

I know, and normally I'm okay with ignoring it, but sometimes I just can't ignore it.

Sometimes you need, you need a solid fuck you.

Uh, and I think they got one in and I got one in.

And then we ended it.

It ended fine.

And someone said, what did Jeff do?

Jeff sat there like this.

I was sitting.

Okay, first of all, this was the setup.

I'm, I'm sitting next to Jeff.

Okay, we're in these two easy chairs or whatever so jeff is there jeff is like this because you know jeff loves that jeff

jeff loves that lakendra's on my lap like lakendra's literally sitting on my lap and ben was sitting on the other side of my lap we were all three sharing a chair lakendra ron and i were sitting in a chair together and i was trying to talk to kristen takeman

And Kristen Takeman, too, was across from us.

I was trying to talk to Kristen Takeman and these two were having their political argument under me.

At one point, I was standing.

I was like, okay, I'm going to go.

And then, then, and then, and then I was trying to talk to Chris and Takeman and they were screaming at each other under me while I was standing there.

And I was like, I was like, okay, I can't have this.

I was like, I can't.

There was like, there, but they were screaming, but then they were, then you guys were like hugging at the same time.

It was so crazy.

It was hilarious.

It was.

Well, the hugging happened way after that.

But you know what?

No, no, but there was a moment where you guys like clasped like you were like had like a joyous moment.

And then you guys were like, well, because it was intense.

I mean, when I'm telling you, we were screaming at each other, we were screaming at each other.

It wasn't just like,

you're incorrect on this.

And I don't really agree with you.

It was

like on both of our parts.

We were going crazy.

And so it was just intense.

And I think after it was like, oh, my God, what did we just do?

Because you see everyone's face around.

Everyone's like,

horrified.

So.

Yeah, whatever.

So that happened.

But all in all, I mean, it was still, it was still a fun night, you know, no hard feelings or whatever.

So, and anything I have to say about the politics of it or whatever we argued about, i'll say it to their face and i'm sure they'll say it to mine too so um no worries but anyway that was that i don't want to take any more time my only regret was oh my god i hope that i didn't upset ben because you know that's like being married to a crazy person you're stuck with somebody at a party and something that like that happens and that was our first time at one of those parties too we've never gone to one of those so i was like oh god poor ben you know but

Yeah, I was like, I just, I just want to go home and have dinner.

That's all I want to do.

And now I'm like, I'm like, do I have to stay here?

Do I have to like hammer on his back?

Which, of course, I was supposed to have your back.

I don't think I did anything that would indicate.

That's all, that's all.

You don't have, you know, it's not like I was being personally attacked or anything like that.

It was nothing like that.

So anyway, that was that.

All right, back to the headlines, my little friend.

All right.

Well, let's talk about, I just saw this headline right here.

Paige DeSorbo discusses real reason she quit summer house, realizing she hated her boyfriend while filming a reality TV brainwashing.

Wow.

So by the way, I just saw this headline while we were looking at the other article.

I saw it on the side.

I was like, well, I've got to click on this because I want to know what this is, what this is.

So I'm going to like read this on the fly with everyone here.

Paige de Sorobo addressed her decision to leave Summerhouse.

She hinted at reality TV's brainwashing.

The star also alluded to an ex-boyfriend who acted like a principal.

I wonder who that could be.

Last year, Paige broke up with Southern Trump's Craig Conover, who said he was, he was blindsided.

And so she said, I just had this overwhelming sense that I couldn't go back.

I know I would have been doing a disservice to the show.

They expect a certain level of showing up and I just couldn't give them that.

And I definitely had to get over the feeling that my career would be over.

The element thinking that like, you need that show in that network.

And Hannah reminded me that they're not in charge of your career.

And being on reality TV, there's a level of, this is like a harsh word, but like brainwashing.

Sort of like whoever brainwashed Lindsay, that whatever she's wearing is actually stylish, that kind of thing.

So, uh,

yeah.

So, she then she says, I had a I had a boyfriend once, and he worked with one of his friends, and he was very adamant to me about how it's like not easy working with your friend.

And he would always be like, It's a clear boundary, like once a week, you have a phone call where it's just like the two of you, just like talking about work stuff.

And I was like, What are you?

Our principal, 1000%.

Are you the principal?

Yeah, um,

yeah, I mean, I don't know.

I don't think this is what the real reason is that she left the show.

She left the show because she didn't need it.

I mean, you got

you got really big and rich.

You're like, why am I going back on Summerhouse?

I don't need that shit.

And she didn't want to give up Summers anymore from what I'm reading from this.

But yeah.

So Paige quit.

Yeah.

I wouldn't want to give up my Summer anymore either.

I mean, I think like, I mean, I love Paige on Summerhouse.

I don't know what Summerhouse is going to be like without her.

But quite frankly, if you have now reached the level where Paige is selling out at Radio City Music Hall like two or three times in a row in one week and like doing all these fashion things, covering the Oscars for Vanity Fair and like being in all these magazines and going on late night TV, and then you have to spend your entire summer in a house with...

Kyle and Jesse Solomon of like of people like that.

Like, no, thank you.

Lexi Wood, she had to spend a summer with Lexi Wood.

Like, uh-uh, get her out of that house.

Let her do famous things.

She did it.

She worked hard.

She made it to a new tier of fame.

Let her go to cool parties and spend time

where she deserves, which is a quiet beach house where she can sit back and drink a lemonade at 3 p.m.

and a gin and tonic after that and watch Love Island and just be a happy person in a quiet house.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, you go live it, Paige.

You go live it.

Now, I'm not sure what to expect from Summer House either, although I did see a clip of Jesse walking through the street singing.

Like he made like a music video for himself.

And I couldn't bring myself to press play on that because I can't listen to Jesse.

I'm sorry.

Like, you know, there are some, there are some things that I have a red line about, and that's it.

And I would not cross it.

I would not click on the little volume button.

But I did watch a whole video of him walking through the street singing.

And it was this.

That big stupid face.

And so I know we have that to look forward to.

A big stupid face.

That's all I know.

The rest of it, I'm just going to wait until it's upon us

well unfortunately there's billboards with lexi wood all over my neighborhood here and so i feel like i can just never get away from her i feel like she's left the show but she hasn't left my life and i just see them and it's like

Okay, so

something that's looking promising is Real Housewives of Atlantic casting.

Singer Kay Michelle fires back at Giselle Bryant and Robin Dixon for questioning her role on Atlanta and blasts Robin as a couch of potatoes.

Why is it funny to you?

I heard that there was like I thought there was a I saw there was a lot of K-Michelle stuff going around and in my mind I was like, you know what?

I'm going to circle back to this when it's closer to crappy hour.

And then I actually never circled around to it.

But yeah, I know there's great.

So on,

so Robin said, Atlanta Bravo shows are running out of of people in response to Kay Michelle joining Real Housewives of Atlanta and Angel Love joining Married to Medicine.

Allegedly, they're using people from other networks now.

So, Kay Michelle responded and said, why be so worried about me and my overly educated and successful self and what I might be doing?

Robin, you ran out of a job a long time ago.

You would love to be recycled, you little couch potato.

Just yapping.

To be fair, she was recycled onto the traders.

You should have rammed through that hotel lobby where your husband was, lady.

And Giselle, you look beautiful.

Leave me alone.

And y'all go loadle and let me go Yodel in peace.

I'm around here selling out shows and you're selling baseball hats, but you're worried about me and what I might be doing.

The nerve of this couch potato.

Wow.

I love her.

I love Kay Michelle.

Wow, that's also like a new one.

We have a new hero.

There's so, listen, a lot of people have been called couch potatoes and couch potato is not even really like such a I don't know like weaponizing couch potato in that way against Robin is just somehow oddly so perfect that I kind of love it.

Wow, the let me go yodel in peace is also hilarious.

I love that she's like, let me go yodel in peace.

Because how many times have I said that?

How many times has Paige DeSorbo said that?

No wonder why she's going on that show anymore.

That shit's hilarious.

So, I mean, that show's not going to be coming back for a while, I don't think, but God damn, I know that I have a new hero when it does come back.

So welcome, Kay Michelle.

Can't wait to see what you bring.

Yeah, great work.

Great work, Kay Michelle.

That was, you're really, you're really getting me excited right now.

In other Atlanta news, Kenya did a video in her hair salon, which I think was foreclosed on this week.

There were court documents being, or court papers being passed around that she has been foreclosed on and her salon is officially closed.

I don't have them in front of me, but that's what I read.

And

she is still doing her like confessionals in her salon.

And people were like, oh my God, is that a rat?

Because you see something walking behind her at one point, like, Oh my God, Kenya has a rat in her salon while she's trying to shade Karen Huger.

And I think it was just her Yorkie, like one of her little Yorkies.

But the fact that people were saying, Oh, she has a rat in her salon was just such funny karma for Kenya because Kenya was being really mean.

I mean, Karen Huger obviously just got out of jail, and Kenya was like, Oh, Karen, you got out of jail.

So were you the top or the bottom?

Yeah, like, were you the top bunk or the bottom bunk, Karen?

I mean, just, you know, Kenya being

Kenya.

Yeah.

But by the way, I'm looking at the video and I, I don't, it's definitely a dog.

It's not a rat, but it's just funny to think about.

It's like definitely a dog.

Yeah, I didn't think it was a rat either.

I could tell that it was a dog.

It's just, it was just funny that Kenya's karma was all that people took from that video is, wow, Kenya still sucks.

She's got rats in her salon and now her salon is foreclosed.

So, you know, karma's, karma's a quick worker.

Speaking of jail time, a quote that's been going around is that Andy Cohen has been saying, uh, he never wants to see Jen Shaw again.

Do we think

that we'll ever, that, do we think that statement is at odds with her actually coming back onto the show?

Cause I still think Bravo's going to bring her back.

They're going to bring her back.

I don't believe for one second that they're not going to bring Jen Shaw back.

I just don't believe it.

I mean, you can't convince me of it.

They're going to bring her back.

She's going to worm her way back in there somehow.

But maybe, I mean, maybe not.

But I mean, I don't think that

the show doesn't need her, but I think that like, I would not be surprised if they do it just to get under

Heather

Gay's skin.

You know, I don't think I don't want her back.

I don't want Jen Shaw back.

I don't think anyone wants her back.

But

I think that they would see it as a big ratings boost to have the girl who just went to prison come back.

It'll be like Whitney Rose, who's going to shoot a scene with her.

It's going to be like, Yeah, I met with her.

Yeah, because she put in the time.

Can't you put in the time?

Can't you be better for like the things that you do?

So you never listen to me, Lisa, because I think everyone deserves a shot.

The way you don't give me a shot, Lisa, I gave her the time.

Yeah, you know, it's gonna be one of those.

What did you go to jail for, second dick?

You exploited my vagina.

And I'll just end on that note.

It'll just be like, it'll go black.

Oh, hey, it's time to talk to the audience.

What the heck?

Time is flowing today, Ben.

Time has flown.

So

we're going to go talk to the audience.

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