#3068 RHOC S19E18 Part One: Behind the Candelabra

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Speaker 1 hello and welcome to Watch What Crapens, a podcast for all the crap we love to talk about on Yo Bravs. I'm Ronnie.
That is the gorgeous and talented Ben Mandelker across from me, side by side from me.

Speaker 1 Hello, Ben. Hello.
Hi. How are you doing? Good.
Having a great old time over here. I've got a family in here of the cutest little family.
Wow.

Speaker 1 Hannah and her family are staying here. So I have and her husband, her mother.
So I've got a whole family in here. I've got a little five-year-old running around, jumping all over me.

Speaker 1 Taught her how to make cookies, how to play a Nintendo Switch.

Speaker 1 We were having so much fun.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm going to be so sad when they leave. I'm going to be familess again.
I'm going to be alone. Alone again.

Speaker 1 But it's been so fun. I've been having a lovely family time.
How's it been going over there with you?

Speaker 1 So much fun. I've been,

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Speaker 1 process of getting furniture out of like what now I've got to figure out how to get this out out back

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Speaker 1 so um that's like what's plaguing me this morning uh so the the point is that nothing is new with me actually that's it's nothing nothing's happening over here um i have a chair report well we are going to bravo con next week that's new that's going to be fun for us we are going to make a pilgrimage we will be doing moderating the next gen nyc panel which is going to be the very last panel of the whole thing oh i removed ben or maybe ben removed himself anyway we're going to moderate the next gen nyc panel the last day we are going to have a meetup at some point.

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And today,

Speaker 1 it is

Speaker 1 Real Housewives of Orange County Reunion Part 1 for season 19.

Speaker 1 What say you? What are your general thoughts about this here reunion? Okay, general thoughts. First, I love that we just got right into the reunion.

Speaker 1 We did not have to see people arrive, people in glam, Andy visiting each room. I love that we just started.
I love that. Second of all, is it me? Did this reunion look kind of shitty? It looked.

Speaker 1 Was it me? It was the lighting. It was blue.
Shitty. Dog shit.
It looked like dog shit.

Speaker 1 Dog.

Speaker 1 Dog shit. Embarrassing.

Speaker 1 the screen embarrassing what's the set supposed to be the set was terrible i think it looked like maybe it was supposed to be new or it was terrible i don't know andy didn't even do a shout out to this to the set it just was like everything looked flat all the light was flat all their hair looked like matte and dry like there was no gloss there was no shine the light all their the color scheme they're all wearing this like like maroon

Speaker 1 pink it just was like why would you pick maroon

Speaker 1 you can't pull off maroon a bunch of blonde white layers you're gonna do maroon

Speaker 1 yeah it was like not it wasn't giving what it was supposed to maybe maybe some some sort of like reference to like a weird new orleans element i don't know but it was like the color scheme didn't work the lighting was flat

Speaker 1 uh every the hair everyone's hair looked dry and i think that was a lighting effect it like it didn't well it's also reality slipping into tv because their hair is dry this is orange county okay i mean they've never met a hot oil treatment that they didn't ignore in that place, apparently.

Speaker 1 What happened to their like panoramic LED screen that they had for like the past few years where they were like out in the middle of the ocean?

Speaker 1 That looked great for this cast, but this was just like, ugh. Like everything every now and then they just mess up the way a reunion looks.

Speaker 1 And this one, I just, I actually had times I was watching and I was like, I don't want to physically look at this anymore. Yeah, the lighting was too bright.

Speaker 1 And also the coloring of the people was wrong.

Speaker 1 Everybody was really orange and I guess part of it spray tan, but Shannon, except for Heather, Shannon was wearing like a weird like reverse kabuki mask where she was completely one color all the way up right below her hairline and then it was stark white.

Speaker 1 She looked crazy. Even Katie, who's the most beautiful hand down, looked a little crazy in the lighting.
Everybody looked crazy.

Speaker 1 Emily, Emily, stop it. Whatever you're doing, stop it.
You're a beautiful lady.

Speaker 1 Just stop it. At this point, it's self-harm.
You know, it goes to, it goes to a point where it's like, you're hurting yourself. Just stop it.
You're so beautiful. What are you doing?

Speaker 1 You know, you can't even move your face right. You're blinking wrong.
You're, you know, words are coming out of your ears and, you know, teeth are falling out of your mouth. Just stop it.

Speaker 1 One eye is bigger.

Speaker 1 Just stop. Whatever you're doing to yourself.
Just leave yourself alone. It's self-harm.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I, my, my only real note for Emily, I actually thought by and large she looked fine. My only real note was it seemed like they had added so much hair to her.
Like she had more hair than usual.

Speaker 1 And I felt like, I just felt like it was like weighing her down. It was just like a big pile of hair.
Every time they cut to her, I was like, oh my God, there's so much hair.

Speaker 1 And the light was hanging in a way where it was just, it just looked like a bunch of big, dry hair. Yeah.
I was like, no. And we're in that, you know, we're in California.
So we're like fire danger.

Speaker 1 You know, you see things like that and you're like, you better clean it up. You're going to get a ticket from the city.
And this isn't even like, oh, that's to make fun of how the women look.

Speaker 1 It's not even that. This is a styling issue.
These are the women we all know in love and they deserve better. Okay.
We deserve it. They deserve to be treated well.

Speaker 1 It looks like they just like threw them up there without anybody working on them. You know, and we even saw the stylist.
And I was like, what are you proud about?

Speaker 1 How are you even showing your face on camera right now? All of you. Shame.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Well, it's Orange County stylists. Andy looked good, actually.
Andy looked good.

Speaker 1 But I think that overall, this entire reunion was a real... was a real dawn.
My second,

Speaker 1 that's on the production.

Speaker 1 My second thing beyond, you know, the production of how it looked and stuff is the energy level was real weird everybody was just like super low energy and like whatever you know tamara's just like whatever yell at me i'll just tell shannon to shut up and no one was really there or present and the whole having gretchen come on and everybody just kissed gretchen's ass like did No one else watch the last episode?

Speaker 1 Like, what is going on? What is happening?

Speaker 1 Like, I didn't understand what was happening or how people came in with the personalities they came in, why people are mad at Katie and not mad at fucking Gretchen, who's sitting there, or Tamara, who just got the whole blog leaking thing out.

Speaker 1 I was just very confused. Well, they don't know about that.
They don't know about the blog leaking thing. They said, that's going to be.
I think it was teased that they are going to reveal that.

Speaker 1 You're right. But

Speaker 1 I am

Speaker 1 the energy. So I need some kind of

Speaker 1 Gretchen's ass the whole time.

Speaker 1 Well, it also just goes to show how transparent they kind of all are about that stuff.

Speaker 1 Because I thought, and I was really surprised that Heather was actually like quite friendly towards Gretchen and was helping her out with some answers. That was a surprise to me.

Speaker 1 I think we'll probably get more insight into what's going on with their relationship in a future episode.

Speaker 1 But the energy was low, but I think that's because Tamara set the tone because she's like, I mean, therapy. And she's just like, she's trying to be calm.

Speaker 1 I was, by the way, also surprised that Jen got first seat.

Speaker 1 I honestly think as much as I can't really stand her this season, Emily should have been first seat on that sofa because I felt like really so much of the season was about Emily.

Speaker 1 When you talk about, oh my God, this season's not good. Like everyone goes, oh, well, yeah, Emily is this, Emily's that.
It feels like Emily was really driving this season, whether we like it or not.

Speaker 1 And she should have been first.

Speaker 1 Like, I think the only reason why they put Jen in first chair is because I think sometimes they like people, if they have a beef, to be able to fight across the sofa, like eye to eye.

Speaker 1 So I think because Tamara's first, they had to put Jen first. But like Jen did not, Jen did not earn first seat at this for this season.

Speaker 1 No, you know, and I'm wondering sometimes what they're doing with first seat now if they're trying to make it less important and just like, well, everybody's, you know,

Speaker 1 someone's going to get it, you know, because there have been a first few seat choices that have been odd this year. So, um, yeah, who knows? But here we go, Real Housewives of Orange County.

Speaker 1 We start with Tamara coming in and she's like, I've been on this show 15 fucking years. I'm just tired.
I'm tired of it.

Speaker 1 And then we see a flashback to Jen and Gina and Shannon finding out that Tamara has leaked the season to bloggers.

Speaker 1 Blaggers.

Speaker 1 And then flash forward to Tamara. Now she's outside going, there's no proof.
And then we go to the final episode where someone's like, she does do a lot of talking. It's Chris Samuels.

Speaker 1 Chris Samuels is the leak. And then we flash forward, then we're forward again.
And Tamara's like, there's nothing in writing.

Speaker 1 Bonus, bonus sob.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but nothing this season has anything in writing. There's no writing in proof.
There's no proof of writing. So since when does that matter to you people?

Speaker 1 Like you can't start that now in the reunion episode. Suddenly we have to have written proof.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 So, and you look, I know that everybody loves Katie. I actually like Katie too.

Speaker 1 I think people are going a little overboard in their defense of Katie because of how much all the other women suck because Katie is also still full of shit.

Speaker 1 And Katie reminds us that she is still 80% full of shit when she comes back on here.

Speaker 1 Or, you know, I don't know if it's just that she's 80% full of shit or if everybody has just agreed we're not backing her up on any little thing. So it just looks like she's lying.

Speaker 1 I'm not even sure at this point, but she didn't bring a ton of energy either. So I'm not really jumping on that bandwagon either.

Speaker 1 I mean, Katie is not known for her energy, I would say, but yeah, I mean, yeah, I think like, I think we all know Katie is slippery with the truth for sure, but we are so offended by the way the entire cast discarded her when other people on the cast are equally slippery that it just feels so rude that we just have to rally behind her.

Speaker 1 And also, she's so pretty. We're like, well, I mean, how could they discard someone so pretty? Yeah.
From Orange County. That's so rude.
Oh, they're just such hypocrites, too.

Speaker 1 You know, but I guess that's the name of the game this season. So let's, let's do it.
Bring it on.

Speaker 1 So then we also see, we're still seeing these flash forwards and flashbacks. And the next flash forward is Tamara now, of course, having her classic

Speaker 1 hyperventilating in the back in the back room. And Katie's like, Okay, just go home, decompress the day.
Let Eddie, you know, win you over with a sparkling personality, just relax a little bit.

Speaker 1 This is not what the show is about.

Speaker 1 This show is about me ripping the other people to shares, nothing ripping me, the shreds. Come on, guys.

Speaker 1 So she's crying her big crocodile tears. And tonight is the three-part real live live of Warren County reunion.
I'm Andy Collin. I have children.

Speaker 1 Okay, I just have to say one thing because I wasn't sure if this was a preview of what's to come or if this was a like a little flash of like, we're getting the reunion ready.

Speaker 1 But in case it never shows up for the next two episodes, I have to say there was this, they had this one shot of Heather sitting down on the sofa.

Speaker 1 And she's like, this is neither my slip side nor my nose side. Everyone's just so mad about about being on that side of the set.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they were like, that's where we had room. Just a problem side for my slit and my nose.

Speaker 1 So we see the ladies getting in the glam. Katie is brought a basket of vodka and bagels.

Speaker 1 That was pretty funny.

Speaker 1 Tamara is showing her nipple covers like, this is a Zex. This is it.

Speaker 1 And then we go to Gina looking in the mirror, which, I mean, that was the biggest shock that she's been given one. Gina's been

Speaker 1 given a lot of credit for her outfit. I don't think this was one of Gina's worst, but she did look like a napkin fold over her boobs.
I'm not sure what that was about.

Speaker 1 I was like, are you filing your boobs?

Speaker 1 Who made this outfit and why? Why would they do that? What does it represent?

Speaker 1 I liked when she looked in the mirror and she goes, who is that girl I see staring straight back at me? Why is my reflection someone I don't know? I feel bad for my reflection. reflection.

Speaker 1 What am I going? Why is my reflection putting up a sheet in the middle of the mirror to make the mirror big enough for a whole family?

Speaker 1 You know in horror movies, when someone stares in a mirror and then like the thing in the mirror like comes out and grabs them by the neck? Yeah.

Speaker 1 This is the first time we actually saw the reflection be like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 It's like, here's a towel. Please put it over your outfit.
Please.

Speaker 1 Reflection's like, I feel bad. Like, here's a towel to help out.

Speaker 1 But we both look better. Yeah.
So we see some flash forwards of what's coming in the reunion, which I think we can probably skip because guess why we're gonna see it over the next three episodes.

Speaker 1 And I already kind of flash forward glimpse,

Speaker 1 and I accidentally said some of it already with Heather. So, okay, five, four,

Speaker 1 three, two, one.

Speaker 1 Hey, everyone, welcome to the Real House Size of Orange County season 19 reunion.

Speaker 1 I'm Andy Cohen presiding over a time-honored ceremony that'll be equal parts solemn and revealing, like getting married in a white bikini. Ha! Ha!

Speaker 1 Ha!

Speaker 1 No one wants to joke. Jen, you're not even laughing at that joke.
Wow. I love that he said that.
He's like, he gives a gen line and then it cuts to Jen and she's like, um,

Speaker 1 who got married in a white bikini?

Speaker 1 Who did that? That sounds so fun. Solomon.
I wish I could have come to that wedding. That would have been great.

Speaker 1 Thank you so much. I was just invited.
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 Yay. Hi, Shannon Storms Bador.
How are you? How, Andy? I am good.

Speaker 1 I'm just here in this red, which I'm not very comfortable with. If I'm not dressed in black or yellow, I don't really know what to do with myself.
So I'm just going to spiral here in the corner.

Speaker 1 Thank you very much. I'm just hoping a lovely bald man with a giant mansion will come adopt me and give me a wife that Adelaide would be envious.

Speaker 1 Tomorrow, tomorrow. Why is she dressed like little orphan Annie? Why?

Speaker 1 Little orphan Shanny. Why is she dressed like that? There's just so much confusing about this whole reunion.
Why is Shannon dressing like a 12-year-old girl in like southern Cotillion?

Speaker 1 Like, who's dressing Shannon? And when are they going to help her? There's just so much that needs to be addressed. Okay, so she's fine.
She spent a week at the Golden Door. So she's feeling very Zen.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, very Zen. Heather, Heather Dubro.

Speaker 1 Nice to see you. You said you wanted to be a Beverly Hills housewife because the drive was shorter until Kyle Richards said, who? No.
Is Reba available? How was the drive tonight?

Speaker 1 And she's like, it was seven minutes, Andy. Which is weird because doesn't she say she lives in Beverly Hills? Is that that close to Culver City?

Speaker 1 No, they're no, they're, yeah, no, they're, their, um, their apartment is in Century City in one of those high-rises.

Speaker 1 Oh, so all you have to do is take motor, take motor on down into Culver City, and you've arrived at Sony Studios. And let me tell you something.
That is probably about a seven-minute drive. So,

Speaker 1 you know, it's the first time that it was actually easy to get to Culver City. Congratulations,

Speaker 1 bro. You did it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, um, so she gets, she, she had a short by the way, that explains everything. That's why this reunion looks so shitty.
It was filmed in Culver City. Oh, okay.
We crack the code. Okay.
Hi, Emily.

Speaker 1 What's different? Everything. Everything is fucking different.
At this point, you're going to have to tap her forehead to snooze the alarm button. Everything is different.

Speaker 1 Stop that. That's hilarious.
Tap her.

Speaker 1 What even is she? She's a machine now. She's like, thank you.
I'm a Sony dream machine. Yeah, I got my shit together after we finished filming.

Speaker 1 You know, I was feeling a little heavy, so I just kept saying, Susan Bender, over in my mind, over and over again. We came right off, bitch with the jeans.

Speaker 1 You know, I wasn't taking care of myself, so I just got myself together. Yeah, you look like you lost weight.
Yeah, I probably lost 25 to 30 pounds, but I gained it all back again. Oh, really?

Speaker 1 Well, just in the hair. There's really a lot of hair on me

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Well, did you lose weight? So you talk about weight. And,

Speaker 1 you know, like, is she working out again? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, I'm so sick of talking about weight.
I'm sick of talking about it. I'm sick of hearing it.

Speaker 1 You've been on a no-carb thing. Then we went on Jeff yesterday.

Speaker 1 All he talked about was weight and this and that. And everyone who works for him is talking about weight all the time.
And I'm the only chubby one sitting over here, like, listen, let's stop.

Speaker 1 Me, of all people who's talked about weight every day of his life, is finally sick of it. I'm finally sick of it.
I've had it. This was, it was all, it was all a giant ploy to get you sick of it.

Speaker 1 Well, it worked. You guys did it.
Emily, I don't care.

Speaker 1 Okay. I don't care about your work on the program, you know, but good for you.

Speaker 1 I don't care, but good for you.

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Speaker 1 how is the assisted living real estate business going? Oh my god, it's going really well.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just sold like a I sold an efficiency over in Costa Mesa the other day. It was so good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know, it's a lot of work, but like it feels so good to slip again because it's like all about schlepping. I love slopping.
Slap, slap, slap, slap, slap, slap, slap.

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Speaker 1 All right. Okay.

Speaker 1 That's good. I feel like I just slept five miles listening to you talk.
Okay, Katie.

Speaker 1 Hi, Katie. It's great to see you again.

Speaker 1 She talked about

Speaker 1 my life. She ruined my children.

Speaker 1 I will never talk to you again. I am done with you.
Done.

Speaker 1 We missed you for the back half of the season and you're here with the group again. I wonder, how are you feeling being back with the group? Do you have any intentions for the day?

Speaker 1 Look and Andy acts like he's at the golden door. He's like, guys, what are our intentions? Your intentions are for people to fight their asses off.
Okay. That's what your intentions are.

Speaker 1 What do I have to tell you? But, you know, you have to pretend you're there to make up with people. So he's just gaslighting.

Speaker 1 So she's she's like, well, I feel like I need to make up for some lost time, Andy, because some things didn't get said. And I'm just happy to be here.
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just need to make up for some lost time because so much happened on the season after I left. Just kidding.
The season kind of crescendoed after I left. So I guess we're all caught up now.

Speaker 1 Great.

Speaker 1 Jen, did Ryan sexualize you on your way here? It's like, yeah, touched my boobs. He touched my chin a lot.

Speaker 1 He put his penis up my nostrils so that was fun never tried that one wow i just worry maybe he's not here for the right reasons am i right thank you andy thank you so much for asking

Speaker 1 all right well tamara that was great thanks jen finally tamar you recently had your 24th breast surgery is that true Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 1 I had reconstructed surgery because my pectoral message was attached to my face. And I was like, well, as long as you're in there, can you add a third boob? And they did, bitch.
Three boob Tamra.

Speaker 1 She said pectorial.

Speaker 1 she's like yeah you know how it is another reunion another pair of rack yeah what are you gonna do give me some boobies i love it it's like how many times i wish we had a montage of andy just doing reunion questions of hey tamara you got a new rack hey tamara or those new boobs tell me about your new boobs it's every season why are we acting like this is a new thing they're going

Speaker 1 up and down and up and down they need to just make those things screw on and screw off at this point so you could just change them out at will that's very hurtful you know how they do your boobs.

Speaker 1 They like go under all your muscles and shit. That's not an easy thing.
You would think watching this for 19 years that it would be an easy thing, but it is not an easy thing.

Speaker 1 It should just be like a door, you know.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, she basically is like, while you're fixing that, that, my, my muscle, can you do a little something with the boobs?

Speaker 1 That's what everyone says to plastic surgeons. While you're there,

Speaker 1 let me from the top.

Speaker 1 They always say,

Speaker 1 plastic surgeons surgeons be like, need me to fix something. Cause while you're in there, am I Alfredo? Thank you.
Don't stand there.

Speaker 1 Sorry. Sorry.
I was looking for something in my purse. I've been slapping.
I've been slapping.

Speaker 1 If you ever step on my joke again, Gina, it will cost you a lot. That's a no threat.

Speaker 1 Well, I'll take a laugh wherever I can get it. Thank you.
Thank you. It's the only way to get Heather to shut up in a monologue.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 Tamara's like, by the way, I'm going to be quitting today.

Speaker 1 Remember when I quit, everybody? It's the funder. I'm classic.
I'm a classic.

Speaker 1 And she's like, what's this young right, Andy? She's trying to make Andy ask her this question. Are you going to quit today, Tamara? Which she doesn't.
So she just makes it on her own.

Speaker 1 And Heather's like, let's not make big statements like Terry gets in the mail after I go shopping with my American Express

Speaker 1 there we go back on track thank you thank you

Speaker 1 so um Tamara's happy because Teddy's doing really well she her tumors are like they like went away which is by the way I mean that's why another question she wasn't asked I love that she's trying to make this like whole big Tamara segment but Andy's not asking her any of these questions so she's like yeah I'm doing great cut the teddy no no one asked but yes it's great loves Teddy's doing so good thank you, guys.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 1 Who cares?

Speaker 1 Who even is Teddy?

Speaker 1 Wow, that's amazing. So Teddy is all healed up.
So let's follow that up with some more important news. Hey,

Speaker 1 you went to Alexis Belino's wedding. How was that? You said it was one of the most beautiful weddings you ever attended.
Tell me all about it. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 I guess we'll just move on from Teddy no longer having cancer to talk about Alexis's mix and jar wedding. Okay, yeah, it was beautiful.
I feel so weird talking about it in front of Shannon.

Speaker 1 Sorry, Shannon. No disrespect to you.
Person who's never invited to weddings because it's stupid.

Speaker 1 Nobody likes it. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 I'm a mature woman and I saw the pictures. It looked, it was, it was beautiful.
And then, and the flower arrangements, I mean, that must have cost, I don't know, maybe like $75,000. I don't know.

Speaker 1 How much

Speaker 1 does that cost? Did I have my names in the centerpieces since I basically paid for it?

Speaker 1 It was stunning, Andy. Just stunning.

Speaker 1 He's like, nice. Jen, were you invited? There was some drama.
And Emma's like, she was uninvited.

Speaker 1 And Jen's like, yeah, well. Just like Katie should be to everything.

Speaker 1 Hold on, hold on. Let me answer.
Please, let me answer. I was invited, but then I was uninvited.

Speaker 1 Go ahead.

Speaker 1 No, I said fine. You said, let me answer.
I said, fine.

Speaker 1 Sounded like a cascade of

Speaker 1 was about to come out of you. So just wanted to make sure you had your chance to speak.

Speaker 1 Just answer the question jen but when she got married i texted her back and she said why are you sending me a penis and i said ryan why are you texting alexis sorry but i did want to talk to you anyway and say um your wedding looked beautiful and um ryan's wall sack even loved it it was it was great really really good and then she said i wish there was a world where we could be together are you free can you and ryan come and i said well i think i just got reinvited to the wedding

Speaker 1 I mean, Alexis, I wish there was a world where you could be reinvited. Yeah, there is a world.
It's called you. You should have invited her in the first place.
I mean, come on.

Speaker 1 She's acting like she is like, like there's some sort of like authority that's looking down at her and like banning her from inviting her. It was your choice.
I just wish I was

Speaker 1 there was a world we could be together.

Speaker 1 So why did she get uninvited in the first place? It's because she's just such a good friend of Shannon. And Alexis heard that she was just such a good friend of Shannon.

Speaker 1 And it didn't feel right for Alexis. So she uninvited her, you know? And now in the morning, she eats her chia sheets in a mason jar that she had to buy herself.
Andy wasn't free from a wedding.

Speaker 1 Wasn't holding fires in a wedding. I actually

Speaker 1 have supplied my own chia cup now. Thank you.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Tamara, you joke about quitting today, but do you have any intentions for the day? See, if you had just waited, I would have made a joke about you quitting.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, come get to the season. I was emotionally in like a really difficult...
spot.

Speaker 1 Oh, really? Are you still going to therapy? That was a rhetorical question. Of course you are because it's all you talk about.
Yeah, because I was there Monday at therapy, and I was just like,

Speaker 1 trying not to get reactive when I get upset, but I get upset so much because I get a therapy. Now I'm in therapy.
Did you know that? I'm in therapy. I got a therapy all the time.

Speaker 1 Sometimes I'm like, you want to have next? Yeah, I'm going to have therapy.

Speaker 1 So I got to therapy.

Speaker 1 I just got to have a therapy. I'm on the phone right now with my therapist.
Like, I'm a good person.

Speaker 1 She said, I'm a good person, everybody.

Speaker 1 I love therapy. Therapy's great.
You've not been to therapy. You've been to therapy.
I went to Subway.

Speaker 1 No, that's wrong. I went to Subway.
They asked me if I want 6 inch or 12 inch. I said, how about an hour long? Because that's how long my therapy sessions are.

Speaker 1 They gave it to me because I'm in therapy.

Speaker 1 I love therapy. It's my new favorite thing to do.

Speaker 1 Therapy is so great. He's like, okay, well, good to see you doing my...
Said, I'm serious, stupid bitch. Have you got this sleepy fat, ugly bitch?

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe I'll go to therapy and then I love therapy so well.

Speaker 1 Well, I did think that somehow you were going to have a different approach approach to conflict this season based on the therapy. What? You didn't think I was copy this season than any other?

Speaker 1 He's like, uh, let's roll the package. And we just cut to her being, Get

Speaker 1 you, Gretchen!

Speaker 1 And then quitting. And then we cut back.
And it's like, huh, okay. Well, I guess some people just don't understand.

Speaker 1 And Gina's like, well, I feel like some things went therapy and things get worse. But before they got bad.

Speaker 1 That's what we've been saying ever since you came on the show.

Speaker 1 The show's getting worse

Speaker 1 before it gets better.

Speaker 1 So she's like, because like you open stuff up and you're like, wrong, and then you're like, not a changed person. Yeah, yeah, that's totally true.

Speaker 1 Jen's like, yeah, but like when you want to make a change, we're adults. Just like make the change.
You know what?

Speaker 1 I know, but like, then you also have to understand that like when I was going through therapy, I was like on a good track. And then like two weeks of filming with everything that was going on.

Speaker 1 Daddy, Jenny, it's a magnet. You don't understand.

Speaker 1 It's like,

Speaker 1 still,

Speaker 1 no, I mean.

Speaker 1 I understand. It's very scary and sad, but like, I've sat through so much faux bravo therapy that I just, I can't with your, your therapy story.
I'm seeing it. It doesn't work, Jax.
Okay.

Speaker 1 It doesn't fucking work. So Jenna's like, well, it's just, it's just so hard.
And I was, I was probably inappropriate for me to say, but I didn't get the grace that you're asking everyone else for.

Speaker 1 The grace that I had given you. You, you got the grace.

Speaker 1 Where was my grace? What? I have not, no, I have not asked anybody for a certain grace. Give me some grace about that for once.

Speaker 1 So Jenna's like, well, it just feels like we're all assholes if we want to move forward in conversations that are tough with you because now you're going through the hardest time in your life.

Speaker 1 And she's saying she didn't feel like that, that she got that when she was going through the hardest time of my life. Yes, I was going through the hardest time of my life.

Speaker 1 I mean, there to be the victim of Archie's drunk driving and being an innocent spectator in the backseat. That was terrible for me.
Okay, Charlie, whatever. No, we don't need to go.

Speaker 1 We don't need to go back. We don't need to go back.

Speaker 1 She keeps saying he's not going to go back. But oh, yeah, you're hanging out with your mom in the 50s then.

Speaker 1 Why is it called Back to the Future then?

Speaker 1 To be fair, that movie was in 1985, and they said that by the time we got to 2020, that where we were going, we wouldn't be needing roads.

Speaker 1 And if that were true, I wouldn't have been in this issue in the first place. Am I right?

Speaker 1 I'm just bringing up to you the frustration that I felt listening to all of this. Oh, yeah, I know.
I've seen it all season. Okay,

Speaker 1 okay. Yeah, I tried very hard for you.
I tried.

Speaker 1 Oh, sure. You've seen it all season, Tamara, Tamara Drudge.
I don't think you have. I don't think you have.
Because you know what? I'm apparently the grudge holder.

Speaker 1 You're, wait, as a friend, you're Tamara Grudge, not Judge, Grudge. You have all the grudges.
You can't forget anything.

Speaker 1 Excuse me.

Speaker 1 I did not make a joke right then.

Speaker 1 Someone please tell the audience to be quiet. This is because we're on the wrong side for my slip.
Wrong slip side.

Speaker 1 Yes, tamara grudge. Okay.
And Emily's like, that was a good one. Did you say tamara grudge? Yeah, I said tamara grudge.

Speaker 1 Here's one. How about Shannon be more funny in the future?

Speaker 1 Who did that?

Speaker 1 Someone fixed the strings in Alfredo's drum. Well, Alexis Bellino said on a podcast a few weeks ago that she thought Shannon was trying to ice Tambour out or get Tambora off the show.

Speaker 1 And Tambora said, oh, 100%.

Speaker 1 Even my therapist was so get her to Tamara. She's a dumb bitch.

Speaker 1 You tried to come into my therapy.

Speaker 1 Okay, because, like, that's what Alexis feels. Shannon told her, well, I don't even plan what I'm wearing before I film.
Okay, I don't even do that.

Speaker 1 Well, she still doesn't know what she's wearing today.

Speaker 1 I said she still doesn't know what she's wearing.

Speaker 1 Okay, so the joke is Shannon's dressed very poorly. She's very frazzled.
So when you say she still doesn't know what she's wearing today, it's an allusion to that.

Speaker 1 I don't appreciate that. I do not appreciate that.
Who is where is Alfredo? Well, I just found out. Is he still in the building? No, I don't try to ice anyone out.

Speaker 1 And Katie's like, oh, so you didn't call production in the middle of the season and say, I'm uncomfortable. I don't feel safe around Katie.
And I want Gretchen to have her orange. I want her out.

Speaker 1 You didn't say that?

Speaker 1 Oh, thank you.

Speaker 1 Alfredo, were you in the bathroom?

Speaker 1 Wrong time. By the way, this sounds exactly like something Shannon would say.
I mean, it's just in Katie intonation, so people don't believe it, but listen to it, how Shannon would say it.

Speaker 1 I'm uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 I don't feel safe, right? Katie,

Speaker 1 I want Gretchen to have her orange. Just get Gretchen her orange.
I want her out. I want her out.
Yes, of course she said that. She 100% did the same thing.
Of course she said it.

Speaker 1 And so Katie is like, Jen, did she have a phone call with Alex during the season? Like, oh, I'm supposed to know if Shannon had a phone call. She's like, well, I heard about it from you.

Speaker 1 Oh, so now we're just going to go back to where you're going to, Jen, to validate your stupid lies.

Speaker 1 You guys all have other people validate for you. Jen's like, we're going to do this again.
She's like, well, before we left for New Orleans, that's what I heard from you. And Alex told you that.

Speaker 1 She goes, no, you told me that. And he's like, okay, well,

Speaker 1 Alex just said in my ear that he never spoke about it. And he obviously has no motivation to lie in this moment.

Speaker 1 so i guess we're just gonna move on okay absolutely trust the man who claims that nobody knew that gretchen had a horrible bigoted social media account and uh tried to get no one to talk about it and is still trying to move past this mess we all trust alex baskin okay moving on

Speaker 1 All right, Heather from Trix are for kids said, whether it was, I'm sorry, Heather, this is a question for Heather. This is from Lauren from Trix are for kids.

Speaker 1 whether it was a game or not you and emily made it clear that you wouldn't trust tamara with sensitive information so how could you be friends with tamara but never fully share yourself with her well

Speaker 1 we've been friends a long time historical friends it's like alexander hamilton and aaron burr or

Speaker 1 thank you

Speaker 1 thank you i have sent in a self-tape to Lynn Manuel to see if I can play for Hamilton on Broadway. So we're really in that mindset.
Anyway,

Speaker 1 I care about you a lot. And by care about you a lot, I sometimes, when I'm up in my penthouse, think about you and go, ha ha,

Speaker 1 and then I move on. But you know, there are inconsistencies and the unpredictable nature of you sometimes.
That's just the truth. What do you want? Well, how do you take that, Tamara, and say,

Speaker 1 I'm here and I'm going to work on that. We might have to dig a little bit deeper about that.
But we're not happy because I've got other bitches here that, okay?

Speaker 1 Could I just ask? When we talk about that game, you know, I said it too. I don't know why Tamara's the only one getting questioned because I said it, you know.
I want to be in the artist.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, Tamara said you broke her heart.

Speaker 1 by saying that and I'm always like yeah i know and that's why i'm bringing it up because you know i've seen you throw out terrible things about her shannon and she was your best friend for 10 years.

Speaker 1 Ooh Burn, got that one in there.

Speaker 1 Huh, but she threw out terrible things about me too, bitch. She said, Well, I said that you had an ego.
No, that's not all that you said.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, that's your justification for treating me like I, like, shit last year. No, no, that's not all you said, Shannon.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, then the little whisper in your ear is inaccurate and a pastor, or whatever this means. I don't know what I'm saying, but I'm gonna say it anyway.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're the only one who has crazy whispers in her ear. Crazy! Crazy whispers!

Speaker 1 By the way, just for interjecting a little truth in here,

Speaker 1 Shannon never did that to Tamra, where she came up with some horrible, you know, gossip that's being spread about Tamara and put that out there. Did she?

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, I think this all stems from the demise of the Trace Amigos. There was so much, you know,

Speaker 1 there was so much chatter about what happened. And Tamra, I mean, Shannon and Vicki were alleging that Tamara didn't want to be part of it, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 There was such a fallout from that and then that fueled the way tamara acted last season and now this season is a reaction to last season so i think the ego thing may have to do with tamara's participation in trace amigas i think it was like oh now that tamara found to tease in a pod that then she left trace amigas behind yada yada yada i think that's the whole giant backstory

Speaker 1 so tamara's uh so andy says uh why were you so surprised that emily and heather would say and tracks you when you've thrown people secrets in their faces to hurt them? And Tamara's like, look what?

Speaker 1 Give me an example.

Speaker 1 I love this game. Give me an example.
Go ahead. Let's do it.
He's like, oh,

Speaker 1 oh, like my dad. What about that, for example? My father, he had to put down a martini to turn up the TV to hear that again.
That he was an alcoholic. How

Speaker 1 dare you? How dare you?

Speaker 1 And so then we have a flash. It's just like, well, Shannon, season 15, you had a conversation with Brown saying that you have alcoholism in your immediate family and you went to Alanon.

Speaker 1 Is that Eddie?

Speaker 1 Yeah, babe. I came in to help you out.

Speaker 1 Why are you blowing the horn? What the hell, Eddie?

Speaker 1 Well, I kind of, someone once told me that my face always looks like I'm blowing an invisible horn, so I thought, why not attach a real one?

Speaker 1 Okay, I'll take it. I love him.
I thought he's stupid, stupid little.

Speaker 1 Why'd you talk about going to L9 then? Shannon. Well, we see the clip, and Shannon did say that to Brom then, because Bromwyn's like, well, I'm debating going to AA for a storyline.

Speaker 1 So what do you think of that? And Emily's like, well, I grew up with alcoholism in my family. And, but she didn't say it was her dad, you know? She was, it's still vague enough.

Speaker 1 It could be a grandparent. It could have been, it could be.
It could have been Adelaide. And it's also.
And it's also Shannon's story to tell. So Tamara's like.
That's okay if you say that. But

Speaker 1 Here's my thing about that whole therapy thing. When Tamara said it, I actually like, I know, maybe I'm being naive.

Speaker 1 I actually think that Tamara was not trying to like fuck with Shannon in that moment. But I think that when Shannon flipped out, Tamara's response should have been like, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1 I did not mean to overshare like that. I swear.
Instead, her response was, here we go again. And then she went into the kitchen.
It was like, she'd rather do that to cover up her own alcoholism. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I think that's where Tamara's really bad on Tamra. She did do it on purpose to say, because she's, she's setting up the evidence.
Like her father, she's, you said it yourself.

Speaker 1 Your dad's an alcoholic. So it's only normal that you're an alcoholic.
Just admit to being an alcoholic and blame your dad like the rest of us, you know? And Samuel was like, how bury you?

Speaker 1 And then she's like, oh, really? Maybe that's why she's an alcoholic. Cause daddy's not to excuse.

Speaker 1 So. Do you know?

Speaker 1 You said, you said, okay, let's, okay, okay. Well, okay.
You know what, Tamara? We could play the la la game. What's the la game? I don't know, but I just invented it and we can play it if you want.

Speaker 1 But to single out my father, I was in tears. I was in tears having to say, Dad, your pass is not brought up on a television show.
And he said, I know, because it's you.

Speaker 1 You're my pass and you're on this show. And I said, Dad, but look, I said, look, you brought this up, Tamara.
And you know what? You know what you said? You know what you said under your breath?

Speaker 1 And then we see Tamara saying, like,

Speaker 1 I don't think she cares that she cares about her dad in the first place. How, how dare you, Tamara? How dare you, Tamara judge?

Speaker 1 And she's like, well, that's because I was pissed off at the way you acted, Shannon. Yeah.
Yeah, it'd be a horrible person. You're 97.
Yeah. Oh, she's horrible.
Yeah, okay, listen.

Speaker 1 When it comes to my dad, who told me two weeks ago, I'm going to cry. Hold on again.

Speaker 1 The minute that Marilyn Bonro got off his lap and wiped it down, because he did pee a little. I mean, why lie? We all do it.
And then left the restaurant, my dad started crying.

Speaker 1 And he said, Shannon, you're the only reason I'm alive. You're the only reason I'm alive.
Just, I'd live to see you. I live to see you.
So how dare you throw that out?

Speaker 1 Then he burped and a little bit of blue cheese olive got stuck in my ear, ear which was really cute i love hanging out with my dad what were we talking about commercials

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Speaker 1 We're talking about how your dad is alcoholism. Shambra.

Speaker 1 She

Speaker 1 does not stop. I was...
The man was crying. He was crying.
He was saying, if it weren't for you, Shannon Stormsbador, I would die. I would be dead.
And I live for you. You are my daughter.

Speaker 1 And every day I wake up just for you.

Speaker 1 No, Alfredo. Oh, yeah.
That was a serious moment. Basically, now your dad's a suicidal alcoholic.

Speaker 1 That's a good one. It's a good one.
But I'm sorry, okay? I wasn't trying to single your dad out. It wasn't my place to say that at the moment.

Speaker 1 I should have just been like, alcoholism runs in your family, and that's why you run with alcoholism. Stupid runny bitch!

Speaker 1 I should just face, I should just like face swap your face on the little boy in the commissioner from the 80s. That way, I have it.
Have you saying, I learned it from watching you, Dad?

Speaker 1 Shannon's like, Absolutely not, absolute yes, though, right? Absolute yes. I always have to absolute.

Speaker 1 We are so deranged. So, Andy is like, Thank you, Eddie.
Thank you. Thank you, Eddie.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, Eddie is in the bathroom right now. So, Andy is like...

Speaker 1 And he's like, okay, well, Jen Whitney from the Factory of Cheesecake said, do you feel Tamara would have less problems with the group if she took accountability for her actions?

Speaker 1 Yeah. So the night that we sat outside, guys, remember when we sat outside? No? Okay.
Well, the night that we sat outside and we're cake, that's the cake decorating party.

Speaker 1 I remember I looked at you and I said, you're in therapy. When do you you look in the mirror and say, fuck, it might be me?

Speaker 1 Never.

Speaker 1 What about you? When do you do it?

Speaker 1 Why don't you dance? It's not about me. But I'll tell you one thing.
I love therapy. I can't wait to go to lunch.
I'm going to go to lunch therapy. I'm going to have lunch therapy.

Speaker 1 I'm going to have a sandwiches to the therapy because I love therapy so much. It's so helpful.
Sandra!

Speaker 1 No, but like, don't you realize like there's patterns that have to change, like behaviors have to change. Yeah, I know.
That's why I'm in therapy.

Speaker 1 Okay, but like, has your your therapy enlightened you to anything that you came today feeling like you want to apologize for can we see some evidence of the therapy working yeah yeah you want me to apologize for something okay my plan is to sit calm and apologize and take accountability and drag me forward with everybody's farm alcoholic dance fall hey wait a minute i'm sorry if that was sharing this therapy

Speaker 1 y'all apologize for something i don't know what it is yet i don't know what it is yet but i'll see you at some point

Speaker 1 That's a good plan. I like that plan.
And by the way, everyone, I had a salmon sperm facial to prepare for today.

Speaker 1 Wow. A salmon sperm.
Wow.

Speaker 1 You know what? I won't even let my own husband come all over my face. Why would I let a salmon?

Speaker 1 No, you don't do it for Emily. I was the one who set up the joke.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Well, we're back.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 okay, from covert communications with Emily's ex-nanny to nefarious kinks with bloggers, Katie was accused of stirring a pot of deception this season.

Speaker 1 But a failed polygraph test and a secret recording had those women dropping her faster than Shannon bailed on her grilled cheese.

Speaker 1 Oh, Shannon, bailing on a grilled cheese, which we know you would never ever want to do in your life. Am I right, Shannon?

Speaker 1 Why are you crying, shannon why are you suddenly flushing yourself and eat cheese all the time leave no grilled cheese behind and so the fact that i would do that i'm just so sorry i'm so sorry

Speaker 1 and your dad had problems leaving grilled cheese behind too right why do not bring my father into this his grilled cheese behavior is not up for public discussion

Speaker 1 So now we see clips and

Speaker 1 a flashback to a headline. Emily Simpsons, former babysitter, speaks out saying Emily's kids know everything and hated Heather DeBreaux.
Shanna's like, oh, Emily's ex-nanny came forward.

Speaker 1 Yeah, reached out to me and I was pissed. You talk about my custody and then something that was extremely...
Oh, no.

Speaker 1 So Emily, Emily is basically saying, listen, you know, you were talking about my custody and something that was extremely

Speaker 1 painful to me. And then Emily's saying, that's not an excuse, Katie.
Don't bring my kids into it. She didn't.
She said that she heard that you don't like Heather through your kids.

Speaker 1 She didn't call your kids fat or ugly or anything else. Stop saying that she trash-talked your kids.
She didn't. You trash-talked children when you were trash-talking her as a mother.

Speaker 1 You are horrible. And the fact that they can even compare these two things and make them seem okay.
And Emily's still in the right. Emily was so dead wrong for that whole thing.
She's disgusting.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she was dead wrong. And I kind of, I do kind of wish Andy had actually asked Katie some more questions about this nanny situation because I just,

Speaker 1 I don't really think it's like the worst infraction in the world. I don't think it's great.
Like the nanny calls up, Katie should not have engaged with this nanny at all.

Speaker 1 But like Emily treated it as if Katie like told the nanny, like scripted all these things for the nanny to say and yada, yada, yada. And I just think it's so overwrought.

Speaker 1 And it just does not pale to what Emily did last year, which she brought up this incredibly painful facet of Katie's life and put it on display. that like her kids have to listen to and deal with.

Speaker 1 And this is this stuff, like a nanny goes onto a podcast. Who cares?

Speaker 1 The only one who who made it a big deal, the only one is Emily, because none of us were like, oh my God, let's tune in to hear what Emily Simpson's nanny has to say.

Speaker 1 Literally, the least intriguing headline for any podcast would be like, exclusive, Emily Simpson's nanny is on the show today. Like no one cares about that shit.
And Emily made it a thing, not Katie.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And so then we see a flashback to a scene with Kiki Monique and Kiki's, Kiki's saying, oh yeah, well, she said that you came in and said, is that an Asian designer?

Speaker 1 Implying, I guess it was meant to be sounding racist. And Gina

Speaker 1 being like, well, I want to celebrate the fact that Katie wanted to come into this group and then she wanted to bring her culture and she just didn't do any of it. Whatever, you ignoramus.

Speaker 1 That's not the way to do it.

Speaker 1 Gina. Gina's also the asshole.
It's not up to the situation. Gina's also the asshole.

Speaker 1 All of this is how Katie's an asshole, but these are other people being assholes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's not up to you, Gina, to police the way Katie wants to celebrate or the timeline with which Katie wants to celebrate. Yeah, being like, oh, really? You're supporting Asians?

Speaker 1 Is that a Nation Designer? Yeah, just fucking ignorant.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he's like, okay, well, Katie, what's it like watching that? She's like, it's not fun. It's pretty hurtful to watch.
Yeah. All right.

Speaker 1 Well, how surprised were you by the viewer response after the lie detector episode aired? Because it really felt to me like the viewers really rallied around you. Tamara, why are you twitching?

Speaker 1 And also, Emily, you seem to be foaming at the mouth every time I say the viewers rallied around Katie. It's not fair.
It's not fair.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm shocked and I'm very pleasantly surprised by how much love I'm getting. Yeah.
Shannon, you appear to have re-followed Katie. She's like, oh, I never stopped.
I never stopped following Katie.

Speaker 1 I never unfollowed her. I just was hoping she would leave grilled cheese hints somewhere in there.
Missing. Hopefully she would see my sign that was up in all the ballrooms all over Orange County.

Speaker 1 Missing grilled cheese.

Speaker 1 So, Katie's like, and he's like, Well, you guys in a better place now? She's like, Well, we haven't spoken. No, absolutely.
We have not spoken until I get my grilled cheese back.

Speaker 1 So, well, well, when you describe what happened, I mean, we all know you recorded her at the promo shots, but then you just keep making it like you just sent a voice to note to Matt, but you obviously played it for Alexis.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry. I played it for Alexis.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry. I think she's also entitled to play it for it's messy, but like Shannon having a full-on crazy meltdown, like,

Speaker 1 of course you got to play it. I mean, what it does do is like, it's, it's disingenuous knowing that that's Shannon's huge like enemy.
So that's shitty, but they really are acting like this is

Speaker 1 a total violation of privacy. I think they're, they're prosecuting a case of like, this is duplicitous.
This is a, this is a violation of privacy. This is as bad as opening someone else's mail.

Speaker 1 And I think that the actual act of playing this crazy voice note of Shannon Badora having a meltdown, like, let's all be honest. Let's all be honest with ourselves.

Speaker 1 If we have that voice note, we know we're going to play it for some people. But it is shitty that she played it for Shannon's arch enemy when she's also so happy that Shannon's being her friend.

Speaker 1 So that's shitty. But I think the actual playing of the voice note, like, I just don't think it's.
Well, a couple things. For one thing, I 100% believe that Katie taped this and played it for Alexis.

Speaker 1 I 100% believe it. Yes.
But again, on this show, and I do think that's shitty also.

Speaker 1 But,

Speaker 1 you know, like you said,

Speaker 1 what you said is what you said, and I agree with it. But also, Shannon screamed it.
This was all in public when she did it.

Speaker 1 So would it be different if Katie just said, oh my God, Shannon had a huge meltdown. It was so embarrassing.
Would she still get in trouble? Or was it the active tape recording?

Speaker 1 Also, Shannon has recorded people multiple times.

Speaker 1 It's not only the one that she comps, she cops to right now, but she also was recording Kelly having a breakdown in Ireland and other times like we've seen Shannon doing it before so they're not really Heather who actually recorded that one was that

Speaker 1 I think that was Heather who actually recorded that one to just it was just to be fair but I think so okay and we've seen them recording either way

Speaker 1 so to be getting all upset and also this is another thing of everybody getting mad of the wrong part.

Speaker 1 Like, why are we not getting mad that Shannon is making production wait and having all of this time and having another diva fit, which she's had a million of them on camera.

Speaker 1 So we've seen her doing this. We know exactly what this woman's talking about.
Why isn't it about Shannon having a fit and somebody else standing up to Shannon having a fit?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think,

Speaker 1 like, I

Speaker 1 do understand why Shannon is upset. I'm not saying Shannon shouldn't be upset.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, you like to think that when you're with your friends, your friends are not secretly recording you, you know, and like recording you being silly and then playing it for someone else.

Speaker 1 Like, 100%. I get that.
Like, that's... That is not crazy to me.
But the, I don't know. I also think that like Shannon was having a a total a total crazy meltdown and I don't know I think like

Speaker 1 as long it as long as it has been recorded like you know I sort of understand the messy impulse to be like let's look at this it's like watch it's like any amount

Speaker 1 this is happening all over society right now any someone has a meltdown in a store someone records them and then you play it for friends you put it on social media and so I guess it doesn't I guess I'm I'm sort of I guess I'm I might be contradicting myself here a little bit because i i do agree that like you don't want someone in your friend group recording you when you're not aware and being messy with it but then i guess at the same time i guess more like me as a fan i can imagine seeing like a real housewife being crazy in public and being like oh my god i saw shambadour being crazy you got to see what this is So now I think I'm actually walking back what I said.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know, people.
I apologize. This is probably incredibly frustrating.
Here, I'll make it easy. I'll make it easy.

Speaker 1 What Katie did was clearly wrong, but what everybody else does all the time is also clearly wrong. And

Speaker 1 Katie is being unfairly dogpiled on for this when they've all done it. Yeah, I think that's what it is.

Speaker 1 I think that's what it is. I think it's more that I think maybe thank you for clarifying my thoughts.
I think it's really that the punishment in this situation just does not meet the crime.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it doesn't fit the crime, especially when Shannon was, in fact, acting like an asshole. So

Speaker 1 Andy's like, well, she went on social media and said that she did hear the recording. This is Alexis.
And Katie's like, well, then I want her to tell me what Shannon says.

Speaker 1 If she's heard the recording, then I want to know what she says. We'll test her.
And Andy goes, let's play it. And Katie goes, no.
And he goes, no, I know. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 Well, you say no. Well, I want to finish this.
You say I was hours late and that I caused a whole scene. Did you?

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, your glam team had to change your hair because they didn't have enough time to glue in the straw that they normally glue in because you were so late.

Speaker 1 Well, haven't you ever filmed people without their knowledge, Shannon? Okay, okay, well, we're just going to drop it, okay? Because you're just going to go around.

Speaker 1 No, okay, therapy. This is therapy for you now.
Okay, well, you're going to hurt somebody, so I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to talk about this, Shannon.
I mean, Tamara.

Speaker 1 Was this somebody here?

Speaker 1 No, it's Vicki. She goes, oh, oh, okay, okay, okay.
You know what? You know what? Vicki is going to be very obsessed with you.

Speaker 1 But when I was staying there, there was a huge argument with her husband, and I just wanted to make sure everything was okay.

Speaker 1 So instead of going in there and saying, is is everything okay i recorded it on my phone and sent it to tamara

Speaker 1 and that's all i was just trying to i did

Speaker 1 all right well uh emily um

Speaker 1 marco

Speaker 1 in

Speaker 1 polo said hey

Speaker 1 You seem to be a fierce defender of your family. Did you go into defense mode on Katie when she was going after her family at the beginning of the year? Is that why?

Speaker 1 Is this the reason that you do you want to hang your crazy behavior on on this sanctimonious hangar? You of course.

Speaker 1 It was such a level of deceit and

Speaker 1 it was an invasion of privacy. It does also things that are just outside of the realm of anything I've ever had to deal with before.
Oh, please. She said your kids said you didn't like Heather.

Speaker 1 For Christ's sake, you're making it sound like the woman like dressed your children up like you and Shane and sent them into a bank to steal all of your money. I mean, lady, give me a break.

Speaker 1 When I get information about someone, I just screenshot and show it to Gina and we have a good laugh. Well,

Speaker 1 Gina brings it up on camera to ruin that person. And then you come tag team along with Gina to ruin that person.
So I'm glad you're admitting it.

Speaker 1 So basically you're saying when someone else does, when you do it, it's okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like it's not that different from like Shannon's having a meltdown.
I mean, okay. So Shannon has this meltdown.
Katie records it because she sends it.

Speaker 1 She wants, she sends it to Matt to be like, oh my God, this fuck my coworker.

Speaker 1 And I think we're all allowed to bitch about our our coworkers except i would never bitch about you rami but you're all generally you know

Speaker 1 we're all allowed to you have to vent about your workplace right she she bitches to matt so she has this recording she plays it for alexis so yes shitty for her to do it but i also think she's totally allowed she's totally allowed to record something to share with her husband and they can laugh about it and basically emily is saying the same thing here oh i saw this crazy thing And we are messy and we joke about it behind people's backs and like, but we're entitled to it.

Speaker 1 And they are, by the way, they are.

Speaker 1 like you see something you get screenshot like because these people aren't actually generally friends and so like you are allowed to do that but like why are you allowed to take a screenshot of of someone's like terrible past and have like a little laugh about it and Katie can't also have a laugh over a piece of content because she's saying she's not creating the content she's just laughing at content that's already out there but yeah she's a total hypocrite like she's like we we do shit all the time and laugh with our friends but no one else is allowed to so katie's like uh yeah, well, what about what you did at the reunion to me bringing up all the stuff about my custody?

Speaker 1 And she goes, okay, well, let me differentiate.

Speaker 1 First of all, I apologize for bringing it up in the manner that I did because I understand it looked like I was bringing up something about your children, but it wasn't about your children. Right.

Speaker 1 And the thing she said about you wasn't about your children either. It was what your children said about you.
Do you see, Emily? You're like arguing against yourself here.

Speaker 1 Emily's such a fucking hypocrite. I can't even watch.
Well, obviously I can't watch it because I am watching it, but God.

Speaker 1 Kitty is like, but you said I heard you lost physical and legal custody. She's like, what you said is literally about my children.

Speaker 1 It's like, it's about like their, let's, it's about their family dynamic. It's about, it's probably about stuff that she was trying to shield her children from.

Speaker 1 Whereas the nanny thing is nothing that is, is, has to be shielded from the children, you know? Like,

Speaker 1 this is, it was, I think, more damaging for Katie, what Emily did. And she goes, I saw an article.
Oh, yeah, here's a flashback. Article, article, article.
Back to present.

Speaker 1 Being in my late 20s, having no money and nowhere to go, that was the only decision I could make. And you thought it was going to be fun to like, oh, look, Katie, you lost physical custody.

Speaker 1 No, I didn't think it was going to be fun. I just thought it'd be a really good reunion moment that would give me another season on the show.
No, I didn't think it was going to be fun. Okay.

Speaker 1 I mean, it was fun. But I didn't think it was going to be fun.
I was like, then why would you bring it up? And Jen's like, well, she just felt like there were inconsistencies in it, Katie. Okay.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, well, I thought your backstory wasn't consistent, you know? She goes, okay, so I need to explain myself from 12 years ago.

Speaker 1 I mean, yes, because you're on Orange County and we're going back 15. So yes, I guess so.

Speaker 1 And Emily is like, well, but you use content creators, podcasters, journalists, whatever you want to call them to fight your battles. And you're allowed to be that piss, Katie.

Speaker 1 That's fine, but at least have the guts to bring it up to me to my face.

Speaker 1 Says the woman who... like waited till the reunion to bring up the backstory about Katie's, you know, like whatever she went through in Georgia.

Speaker 1 Katie's like, well, and I truly apologize for how I handled it. Why is Katie apologizing? This is making me fucking crazy.
Okay.

Speaker 1 And by the way, did you see the article that came out yesterday about Emily?

Speaker 1 Fucking hypocrite. Blogger, this is from Reality Blurb.
Blogger leaks Emily Simpson's alleged DMs and claims Emily asked them to post negative content about this.

Speaker 1 So this is from someone named Bravo Boo.

Speaker 1 And there is

Speaker 1 screenshots. She came with receipts.
And Emily basically sent her a DM because

Speaker 1 who made this video? Let me see.

Speaker 1 Okay, here's the DM from Emily. Would you believe her loser agent publicist posted shitty things about me after saying things?

Speaker 1 By the way, this is my opinion and my perspective, which I'm allowed to have when people are asking questions. And that's what being a housewife is all about.

Speaker 1 Sharing your opinion and your perspective and being real and authentic about it. Oh, God, I just opened Instagram.
And

Speaker 1 authentic about it. And you can choose not to agree or disagree, but this is exactly how I feel.
And then this is a clip. I'm trying to make this bigger.

Speaker 1 Her agent posted this, how completely unprofessional. And the blogger is saying, oh my God, no fucking way.

Speaker 1 I am reposting it, but I will not say I got it from you. That's so low.
Alexis is so insecure. It reeks of her.
It reeks off of her. And this stuff shows it even more.

Speaker 1 I'm busy, but I will make a post about the publicist because I really am writing hard for Shannon right now.

Speaker 1 So she's like, I'm busy. I'm busy fighting Shannon's battles as a blogger, but I will get back to you in just a moment about fighting your blog, your battles.
And so Emily says, don't feel obligated.

Speaker 1 I just wanted to share because I was so grossed out by it. And then the bravo boo says, I'm not feeling obligated at all, but you're messaging bloggers with shit that you want them to put out.

Speaker 1 and waiting until they put it out. And said blogger is too busy putting out shit for Shannon right now.
So she's going to have to get to you after. Okay.

Speaker 1 And I love that the blog, the bravo boo's shameless. She's just like, yeah, that's, that's what I was doing.
And I was also writing hard for Shannon. So here's the proof, everybody.

Speaker 1 Eating it up. But anyway, the point of this is that Emily is, as we all know, a fucking hypocrite.
And you think the only person she's writing is Bravo Boo? Doubtful. Yeah.
Doubtful. Doubtful.

Speaker 1 So Jen is like, and he's like, okay, well,

Speaker 1 why did you say Katie was a con artist between seasons, Jen? Was it because you knew she was talking to people behind everyone's backs? Is that why?

Speaker 1 Oh, I'll tell you, Andy, thank you so much for asking me this. Things were just like not adding up.
But to be fair, nothing was going on. Yeah, I was going to say, what else are you doing?

Speaker 1 For you, Jen. Oh, they were.
This is you.

Speaker 1 Could you imagine Jen getting the bill and trying to figure out the tip at the end? It's like, no one's asking you.

Speaker 1 What happened to the middle part of the Cheerios? Are they just in some factory somewhere?

Speaker 1 How are these not called satios when they've been hollowed out like that

Speaker 1 satios

Speaker 1 satios why are they called satios

Speaker 1 thank you ryan

Speaker 1 somewhere in beverly hills

Speaker 1 Okay, well, yeah, things weren't adding up. Okay, and I've asked, you know, you've asked me this a million times, Katie.
And I don't remember telling Gina that, you know, you were a con artist.

Speaker 1 So I can't sit here today and say that. Jen never remembers anything.
That's always Jen's thing. Like, what?

Speaker 1 What did I, I never remember. I don't remember.
So Katie's like, Gina, did she say that? And she's, well, it was something to the effect of like, I'm just, I'm like, I'm sitting over here.

Speaker 1 Like, is this girl like a con artist? And then Ryan's like, no, she's just new. And that's how I remember her.
Like, I don't remember because I was schlepping and schlepping feels so good.

Speaker 1 I was schlepping a sign that just said, just sold for a studio apartment in a senior living facility.

Speaker 1 So Jen is like, she's like, well, for me, it's just like, you and I have so many conversations, but I was having weird feelings about stories that you were, that you were telling me.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, we got a lot of questions about the lie detector test, Katie.

Speaker 1 You told us weekly that you felt it was one person who refused to film with you and then went on to say, I think it came from one person who maybe set me up for something and maybe other people believe something untrue about me.

Speaker 1 She's like, yeah. Well, who was that person? Emily, duh.
She's like, duh. Emily, of course.
She's like, I don't have that power. She goes, well, I was set up.

Speaker 1 She goes, I don't need a lie detector to know that you're lying, Katie.

Speaker 1 Dun, dun, dun. And Emily's like, Katie said on camera.
I'll even take a lie detector test. I'm like, you weren't even in that

Speaker 1 when she said that.

Speaker 1 You weren't even fucking there. And then we see Katie saying, I'm not talking, I'm not talking about stories with bloggers.
And Gretchen is saying, okay, listen, I believe you. How am I?

Speaker 1 She's like, well, I'll take a lie detector test. So then Emily's like, yeah, that's where it came from.
Okay. It wasn't even my idea.
It was Gina's idea.

Speaker 1 And then I was like, let's have a lie detector test because then, look, I know they're 86% accurate and they're not admissible in court, et cetera, et cetera. And Tammy's like, oh, yeah, I had a few.

Speaker 1 I see. Oh, you can pass it.

Speaker 1 Katie told me that. Katie told me that.
Well, Katie failed it. So I don't think it worked.
She failed on every question.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she, she really, yeah, that was, that was, that was a tough time. So then Katie's like, yeah, she told me that.
And he goes, okay, well, y'all came up with the questions I might add.

Speaker 1 Well, that was my only input in this. That was my only input.
The audience should stop being mad at me. It wasn't even my plan.
I just said to everyone, bring up the, make up your own questions.

Speaker 1 That's my only input. Well, production found the lie detector people because there's only a few that will go on camera.
And even though they're on camera, they still won't cut their bangs.

Speaker 1 It's a big issue. A lot of back and forth on that one.

Speaker 1 well i'm sitting here telling you i had no way to set you up because what am i going to do pull them aside like what am i going to do pull them aside and say you better do this they would have caught it on camera you could have dm'd them you could have emailed them you could have talked to them i mean lady with the bangs was sure pretty hard on your side as i recall I mean, I don't know any other professional lie detector people, quote unquote, who, when someone leaves, goes, oh, yeah, she's full of shit.

Speaker 1 Bangs was totally on your side. Exactly.
Give me a break.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And Katie even says that.
She goes, They, you know, they did have guys say, like, we've got her. There's a plan.
Okay. Okay.
That was Katie. Okay.

Speaker 1 All that was, Katie, was that there was like a lie detective test about to happen. And then they said, oh my God, we got her.

Speaker 1 Because they were also like, I don't know if you know this, but they were trying really hard to give Julia Roberts a lie detective test. And she was resisting.

Speaker 1 And then she finally said, okay, I'll take a lie detective test. And then they landed the account.
And so she's like, we got her. Katie, come on.
Like, it makes total sense.

Speaker 1 And Emily's like, It wasn't my idea. You know, I don't need one to know you're lying.
I already knew you were lying.

Speaker 1 And Gina's like, Whoa, I wasn't expecting you to fail every question, honestly, but you, Dad. I was.

Speaker 1 But first of all, if you're going to set somebody up, like, everyone knows if you're going to cheat on the test, you got to get one or two wrong. But you got like all of them wrong.

Speaker 1 I don't think cheating goes that. Gina's a moron.
Like, I can't even, I'm not even going to parse what Gina's saying. She's useless.

Speaker 1 Katie, there seems to be a feeling in the group that you were tougher behind everyone's back than a group of ants.

Speaker 1 A saint from Lewis says, why don't you just say to the girls what you say in your confessionals? And she goes, oh, I should. I should.
Yeah, a lot of people should. A lot of people in here.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to squint at them right now. Shannon!

Speaker 1 What does that even mean? Oh, why do you think I'm talking about you, Emily?

Speaker 1 Well, I don't think you're talking about me because I say things. So who are you talking about? You say a lot of things in your confessions about me.

Speaker 1 Like, I was like, oh, behind my back over the ethic is. It's like, wow.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but trust you, that's what I said. No, you said that went to my face.
Okay, what else then? Well, you make like snapshot comments all the time. Like what?

Speaker 1 Emily, you do it. You do it with everybody.
And also,

Speaker 1 you know, saying something to someone's face occasionally doesn't mean it's okay to be an absolute asshole. to your friends behind their back either.

Speaker 1 But she's like,

Speaker 1 oh, sorry, go ahead, man.

Speaker 1 I was going to say that Shannon tries to jump and she goes, you do do that, Tamara. You do.
And Tamara's like, Shannon, be quiet. No one's talking to you.
Just be quiet. Just be quiet.
Be quiet.

Speaker 1 I won't. I will not be quiet.
Just sit on the end and be quiet. Sit on the map.

Speaker 1 I'm on a show where everyone expresses their opinions.

Speaker 1 I'm talking to everybody. You make smite comments.
You do it. You do it.
Shut up.

Speaker 1 That's that's therapy speech. Shut up.
No, I just felt like.

Speaker 1 Every time, every time tamara yells at shannon shannon like looks to like there's some sort of like invisible ref that we're not seeing off stage because shannon just looks over to her left and she's like what

Speaker 1 cameraman do you see this cameraman do you see this cameraman

Speaker 1 yeah you get out of here you're stupid you're stupid and you'll sit in the last seat okay yeah that's right eddie

Speaker 1 that's right

Speaker 1 was that shannon's guy um no i just tried to get into my car and leave and it didn't work out so well sorry yeah you know what but emily my feelings get hurt a lot. You know what?

Speaker 1 I talk about it in therapy, which I mean, every five minutes, okay? And I don't know if you're trying to be funny. What? Because what? What? What do you mean?

Speaker 1 Well, you know, just like I've never had any girlfriends, that I'm not a girl's girl. Whoa, okay.
Well, there were a lot of conversations I had with Gretchen, and I was trying to explain.

Speaker 1 Maybe she's never had girlfriends. Maybe she's not a girl's girl.
I mean, I don't know. I mean, if that hurts your feelings, I apologize for it.
Go on.

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