#3066 Crappy Hour 11/03/25: Wendy Goes on the Offense, RHOC Gets Ready for Reunion, RHOA In and Aydin Out

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Speaker 1 Well, hello, friends, and welcome to Crappy Hour. I'm Ronnie.
That's Ben over there. Hello, Ben.

Speaker 1 Hello, Ronnie. How are you? Good.
Good to see you, buddy. Everybody, welcome to the show.
It is the first crappy hour we are doing this year.

Speaker 1 Well, not maybe this year, but the season where it's already dark outside. Don't don't don't.
Fall has a fallen Ben. How are you falling? You having a lot of pumpkin spice lattes, etc.

Speaker 1 You know what I did? I just baked a cake right now. It was a savory cake with feta cheese and sumac and zatar.
And I'm very intrigued in how it's going to turn out.

Speaker 1 uh because i'm having my grand return to carbs after crappy hour is done isn't that exciting The big return is happening.

Speaker 1 Tanya, our lovely Tanya, who often shows up here to Crappy Hour and other things, she says, after hearing the Diane Ladd news, there's no one else I'd rather be with.

Speaker 1 I didn't even know there was Diane Ladd news, but I already know what it is. And I've looked it up.
Yeah, I almost sent it to you. I almost texted it to you, but it was just too sad.

Speaker 1 I was like, you know what? Ben deserves a break.

Speaker 1 between podcast and this and between podcast and crappy hour just let ben relax and also you have a dead a death antenna i mean the second somebody dies you know it from ben before you even know it from the news you're really good at knowing it quickly so i figured you probably knew already well especially since facebook has been so good over the past like four or five years of for some reason suggesting that i become friends with diane ladd so

Speaker 1 it is sad i get her daughter i get her daughter all the time chelsea ladd yeah i think it's because i

Speaker 1 no for real Oh,

Speaker 1 no, Laura Dern. I get Laura Dern.
No, because I actually, I, I'm, it doesn't matter. Uh,

Speaker 1 the point is RIP, Diane Ladd. Okay, let's talk about happier things.

Speaker 1 Uh, Angela right here says, um, I hope I get to meet both of you at Bravocon this year. It might just happen.

Speaker 1 We mentioned this earlier today, but in case you didn't hear the news, we are planning on doing a Watch O'Crappins meetup in Vegas next week.

Speaker 1 We just have to hammer down, hammer out some of the details. We're trying to like.
Try to make it fun and interesting and cool. And so we're just figuring out locations, etc.

Speaker 1 We're working with some people, but it's going to be free. It's like, it's going to be a like a low-tech, easy thing.
But this way,

Speaker 1 there's something for us to do at 10 o'clock on

Speaker 1 like a Friday or Saturday, whatever night it's going to be. But that way, like we have options and we can all hang out together and party.
So

Speaker 1 if you're going to BravoCon, hang out with us. Yeah.
If anybody has a good spot there,

Speaker 1 wink, wink, DMS. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 If you're someone

Speaker 1 who like runs a place there, let us know. Maybe we'll do it at your place.
Yeah. Also, we have a correction to make because we did a Potomac recap today and of course already have a correction.

Speaker 1 It's literally the same day that we did the effing recap and we've already got, we've already got a correction. Luckily, it's a non-problematic apology that we have to do today.

Speaker 1 It's not, but you know what? It is one of those things where we were so giddy over making fun of this. You know, we're like, oh, yeah, screw it.
We got it. We're right.
You're wrong.

Speaker 1 It was like one of those. And then we were wrong.
We were wrong the whole time.

Speaker 1 It was, and I really led the charge on this one. So, basically, we were talking about this fake contract, which we still believe is fake, by the way, between TJ and

Speaker 1 Stacey. And it was dated 5-5-24, 5-4-24, whenever it was.
And I was like, um,

Speaker 1 the reunion had already aired. How stupid.
Of course, this is fake. They couldn't even get the date right.
And I'm just like laughing and making fun of it.

Speaker 1 But in my stupid brain, I'm thinking, we're watching a season of Potomac right now in 2025.

Speaker 1 So the last season aired in 2024, which it did, but it aired in the fall of 2024 and the contract was in the spring of 2024. So the date was literally not even close to a smoking gun.

Speaker 1 And I sat there and I did a victory circle as if I had found, you know, I sat there standing there making fun of TJ for being so stupid to use the wrong date when it was I, I, who was the stupid one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know, but I was right right there with you. I was like, oh yeah, you're right, Ben.
I even looked it up during the show. I was like, oh my God, I'm looking at it right now.

Speaker 1 This is ridiculous. So, yeah, we're dumb, but I still don't believe this friendship or this contract is real.
And this was done on somebody's home computer. This is not a legal document.

Speaker 1 This is not even legal zoom. Okay, so still not buying it, but it's legal.
You know, with my tail between my legs a little bit more for that.

Speaker 1 But if you guys haven't seen the letter, it's pretty funny.

Speaker 1 Apparently,

Speaker 1 or allegedly, I should say, she agreed to pay this guy, TJ, half of her salary, not only for the season that he was on, but for the entire time that she is on the show, which is absolutely nuts.

Speaker 1 And I would hope to think that she's not that stupid. And also she signed her name in,

Speaker 1 she didn't like use cursive. She just like wrote out.
Her name. Stacy Rush.
No, no, no. Stacey Rush is printed out, and then she has her signature below.
I see, I'm making another mistake.

Speaker 1 Let's just get over this story, okay? But she wrote her, she wrote her name, and then she signed it below, but there's no TJ signature. So I don't know.
I guess it's because I don't know

Speaker 1 the money, but

Speaker 1 Stacey has worked in television. She had a career in television before Potomac.
She knows to lawyer up with anything like this. Like she's just like,

Speaker 1 I just don't believe any of this. Sorry.
Nope.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. So there's that.
What's going on in the Bravo world that you'd like to discuss, Ben?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 why don't we start with this? You want to start with this headline that Real House has a Potomac Wendy Suffo accuses police of an illegal arrest over fraud charges?

Speaker 1 You know, one of the most frustrating things about cases in life, but especially on Bravo, is that they seem to take forever. You know, it's like the Erica Girardi thing is still going on.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, I need instant answers. I need it to be like a long order where it's an hour because I get tired.
But, you know, the Wendy Yosefo stuff, we all heard about it.

Speaker 1 Wendy was pretty smart about staying quiet after this.

Speaker 1 So we haven't had much news on what's been happening, but we got it this week. Real Housewives, Potomac Wendy Ocepho accuses police of illegal arrest.
She also got her own lawyer.

Speaker 1 She claims that she was the victim of an illegal arrest as she fights her fraud charges.

Speaker 1 She filed docs that say the

Speaker 1 Reality Star

Speaker 1 demands that charges be dismissed because there are defects in the charging document. And she wants all evidence be suppressed because of an unlawful search or seizure.

Speaker 1 And she also asked for all wire and verbal communications to be suppressed because of unlawful interception.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 that's a lot. I wonder

Speaker 1 if they're not going to be able to eggs. No, I don't think so.
I think that that's kind of a standard thing that you do, right? When you are

Speaker 1 arrested, you're like, they did, this is unfair.

Speaker 1 Remember Jen Shaw's big thing was she couldn't be expected to,

Speaker 1 she couldn't be expected to confess, right? Because they wouldn't give her saline solutions and her eyes were dry.

Speaker 1 Right. It reminds me of the time, the first time I got a meeting ticket and the officer like had like a tiny administrative error on the ticket.

Speaker 1 And I literally wrote a letter to the judge saying, like, you know, I think that basically, like, this should be dismissed because if the officer wrote down the wrong,

Speaker 1 could like, if the officer wrote down the wrong date, then, you know, what else did he get wrong? I basically was like, this is, this is illegal arrest for Ben Mandeliker in the ticketing division.

Speaker 1 And guess what? That didn't work. I had to, I had to.
When I was 15,

Speaker 1 I got my driver's license because I grew up on the border of New Mexico and Mexico, El Paso. Hey, baby.
And so you could go over to New Mexico and get your driver's license when you were 15.

Speaker 1 So I was driving and this cop was speed. I mean, he was going so fast, 100 something miles an hour down the freeway.
And I was like, fuck that cop. He can go fast.
I can go fast.

Speaker 1 So I slammed on my gas and I followed the cop. I was an idiot.
Okay. I'm not saying I was a bright 15 year old.
So of course, I was pulled over and told off and given a ticket.

Speaker 1 So then I was like, I'm fighting fighting this ticket.

Speaker 1 I'm fighting it. I'm going to court because I heard if the cop doesn't show up and they usually don't, then you will get off of your ticket.
Right. So I go to court and my dad came with me.

Speaker 1 My dad was so pissed off at me. So I go to the court and I'm like, well, the officer did it and so did I.
And how is it legal for them to speed?

Speaker 1 And if it's legal for them to speed, it's legal for me to speed. Case dismissed.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 And he was like, not only are you getting this ticket, you little fuck, if you ever do this again, you're going to jail. And I was so bummed.
I was like, I can't believe they didn't let me off.

Speaker 1 The police are so unfair, bro.

Speaker 1 So unfair. So I get it, Wendy.
Good luck with that. So she apparently also asked for her own lawyer so her and Eddie can be charged separately.
So we'll see what that's about.

Speaker 1 As time goes on, it sounds like just kind of normal filings that you do when you're getting caught doing something bad. But

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 probably good to be um to have the charges separately. So that way, if there is an issue, if they do wind up serving jail time, they can stagger it like Teresa and Joe.

Speaker 1 So that way there's someone for the kids to be there.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So Doa is asking us, did you guys see the new surcast photo? Everyone looks tired and LVP still looks like a magician.

Speaker 1 Yes, we actually did our bonus episode today as a trailer trash for the trailer that came out today. So we did watch a trailer.
We have already judged the fuck out of that cast.

Speaker 1 There is one girl in there whose hair is just so, I just feel so bad for her. She's bleaching it.
She's doing all this. It's just so unhealthy.

Speaker 1 And I just want to come pick her up in my auntie van and just put even white rain. I mean, I don't expect everybody to, you know, start kerosing right off the bat.

Speaker 1 And I know I'm speaking as a person with no hair, but I just want to help. You know, just put some white rain conditioner in there and just let it sit for a while because she seems like a nice girl.

Speaker 1 I read after, because, you know, we recorded this morning and then I read after all of people's reactions to the trailer. People are so negative.
They hate, they're like, I'm watching this shit.

Speaker 1 There is no way I'm going to watch this crap. I'll tell you that right now.
I don't want it unless it's the originals. The originals are in their 40s.
Get over it. They're not coming back.
Okay.

Speaker 1 And I also learned that two of the guys are OnlyFans guys. And I saw one of the guys' pictures because someone posted it.
I mean, it wasn't his wiener or anything. It was just him,

Speaker 1 which we already saw in the thing. But it was a real cheesy one.
You know, the one who looks like old man, the old man

Speaker 1 old man jacks

Speaker 1 yeah i mean i think we both enjoyed the trailer and we both are pledging to be really optimistic about it because you know i did a whole spiel about you know

Speaker 1 like i think i think vanderpump rules they're i think they're doing the right thing I think they needed to hit reset button on Vanderpump Rules.

Speaker 1 And I want to actually embrace Bravo for doing the right thing in this case. I don't necessarily think that some of the other reboots were

Speaker 1 called for.

Speaker 1 for me like i had a different reaction to those but this one i think like vanderbump rules has gone it's it had the the old class has gone as far as it could go with the premise could no longer support it i think that this is fine get some new young idiots let's make fun of them all together because if everyone protests it or is like it's stupid then they're gonna yank it and we'll have one less show of idiots to make fun of like don't you guys want more idiots to make fun of like come on lean into it, you know?

Speaker 1 As Dolphin Girl says, Dolphin's Girl, people said the same thing about not watching Devalley, yet it was considered a hit. And that's true.
That is actually a credible point.

Speaker 1 I've seen your name a lot of times, Dolphins Girl, and I always thought it was Dolphin Girl. I didn't realize it was Dolphins Girl.
Like, as in, that's a team, right? Is that sports?

Speaker 1 I thought it was Dolphin. I always assumed the S.
I always assumed it had to do

Speaker 1 the sports.

Speaker 1 God, I've seen your name forever. And just right now, I was like, is that sports?

Speaker 1 I got all mad.

Speaker 1 It's kidding. Love you, girl.
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Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 Angela and CIA said Ben sounded so disappointed when Ronnie said no wiener. Of course.
Like, what's the point of even like saying someone's on OnlyFans that they're not even sure they're a wiener?

Speaker 1 Of course, you can see a shirtless hot guy any day. You know, it's the wiener that's important.
It's the,

Speaker 1 it's what's inside the wiener that counts.

Speaker 1 I will say, um, someone in the chat said, like, looks like Lisa. Lisa still looks like a magician.
That's true.

Speaker 1 And as you hear us going through the trailer, there's a part really on the trailer where it seems like she has left her magician styling behind with the old cast. And I got very excited.

Speaker 1 But alas, she is definitely still a magician. I also get excited because at one point I'm like, oh, wow, they finally hired like a black guy to be part of the show.

Speaker 1 Of course not. Of course not.

Speaker 1 They definitely make it seem like that, but no, it's definitely not. So, you know, something's just never changed changed on Vanderbilt rules.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I think overall it looks pretty good. There's a girl in it named Natalie, who's probably going to be a star.
She's the one everyone hates.

Speaker 1 And then there's like a real like attitude-y girl that I really like. She's kind of a mix between Stasi and Katie, I guess, who we'll see where that goes.
So I don't know. Who knows?

Speaker 1 I think it looks good personally. I was, I was pleasantly surprised.
I thought it looked, I thought it was going to just be horrid, but I laughed. I mean, I laughed multiple times.

Speaker 1 That's really all I can ask for in a show on Bravo. Also, we're coming back to this show as like grandparent recappers is kind of how I feel.
I'm like, I got to be all of your parent.

Speaker 1 So it's a little different, you know? So I'm like, give the kids a chance, guys, instead of being like, who is? You're all who's like the start of the last one. So we'll see.

Speaker 1 Sad Big Bird says, Ben, address saying that you're a sports gay in your Wayfair ad.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 I like football and I watch football and I play fantasy football. There's a period of time where I played fantasy basketball, fantasy baseball, fantasy NASCAR.
I used to do all that stuff.

Speaker 1 But I used to be very into football and I don't follow it as closely as I used to. I used to literally like watch the NFL network every single night.
I would watch Sports Center.

Speaker 1 I like went down that path. But as I've gotten into board games, that has sort of taken over like that kind of hobby space a little bit.
But I do, I love watching football and I just love the vibe.

Speaker 1 I love football vibes i mean football's happening right now ronnie i'm sacrificing football to be here um so that's why i say i'm a sports gay but i'm not like that much of a sports gay i'm just more of a sports gay than i'm a fashion gay i do try to be a fashion gay but i'm more of a sports gay i'm more of a nerd gay really i guess comparatively tin gay sports gay yeah yeah to me yeah so um here we go this is a real housewives of salt lake city story so this has been interesting so the blogger that everybody is fighting about um who leaked all these, well, not leaked, but broke all these stories about Bromwyn being a fraud and having these,

Speaker 1 you know, allegations against her about Grand Theft Auto and identity fraud and whatever else there was in there. His name is Dr.
Bravo Derm.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 And that's his name on the Twit Twit.

Speaker 1 And I would say that. In relation to Laura Dern, right? Speaking, I mean, R.I.P.
Diane Ladd, you've just given us so much. You gave us Laura Dern.
You gave us Dr. Bravo Derm.

Speaker 1 R.I.P.

Speaker 1 You gave us putting lipstick all over your face when you're upset, like in Wild Heart.

Speaker 1 His name is Bravo Derm, who I don't know if he's a, I guess, a dermatologist. Wouldn't that make him a dermatologist? Now, you know, I don't want to shit talk a dermatologist because I need those.

Speaker 1 Those are my doctors. I don't believe in any doctor except dermatologists.
But

Speaker 1 yeah, he was like, oh, all these people are saying that I, you know, I leaked this or I gave this to someone. He's like, whatever.

Speaker 1 You don't need to be a private detective to find this shit. Here's what to Google.
And he put out what to Google. So I had read that after the last recap.

Speaker 1 So now he denies Lisa Barlow leaked legal info about Bronwyn and shares how they got the dog. John, John, John.

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Speaker 1 So let's see, where does this start? According to, oh, sorry, go ahead. I can't see this headline.
You're just tell me about it because I don't even see this.

Speaker 1 This news story. So he said, Lisa Barlow never leaked anything to me about Bronwyn.
I found it on my own, they stated.

Speaker 1 And basically, that was it. I guess I gave the whole story.
But yeah, he was like, just Google Bronwyn.

Speaker 1 What did he say? Bronwyn. I found it.
I found the link. I found it.

Speaker 1 Or San Francisco. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, it's not any huge deep information, but he was like, whatever. Now, that's not where the story ends because this same guy,

Speaker 1 by the way, who seems a little off his rocker as far as like

Speaker 1 DMing the housewives and then becoming like super close with the housewives. And then he doesn't get what he wants out of the housewife.

Speaker 1 And then so he turns on the housewife and then he starts all this drama about, oh, well, but, you know, it wasn't her, but I have been speaking to someone on the cast.

Speaker 1 It's, you know, time will tell. We'll see.
Can your pores handle it? And it turns out,

Speaker 1 he's like, tonight, you'll find out the truth while we exfoliate together with my new serum. So we find out that who he was talking to was none other than I am Greek.
Angie Katsanavas.

Speaker 1 Angie Katsanevas was talking to the Bravo Derm behind everybody's back. And it was horrible.
Wait until you hear these DMs. They're very, very intense.

Speaker 1 They're really not intense.

Speaker 1 He was like, I'm sure not.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's like, hey, girl, you know, I love Greek people. You should be, you know, you should go to Greece for your, you know, storyline.

Speaker 1 That would be so cool if you went to Greece and got in touch with your

Speaker 1 Greek heritage and you got some Greek citizenship. And she's like, that sounds wonderful.
I love being Greek. And then he's trying to get her to gossip about all the housewives.

Speaker 1 And she's like, yeah, you know, she agrees with him on some stuff. Like, yeah, you know, Lisa was a dick about this.
And that wasn't cool, what Meredith did to me about my husband.

Speaker 1 But she really doesn't go off on anybody.

Speaker 1 And she doesn't, she certainly doesn't reveal any information. So I'm, I'm confused as to what the huge story is, but then he got mad at her.
So now he's posting all of their texts or their DMs.

Speaker 1 And I mean, listen, I love to find incriminating things about people, even people that I like. I like Angie.

Speaker 1 I would love nothing more than to find a big treasure trove of dirt on Angie just because it would be fun. But I didn't see anything there.
It was a big nothing problem.

Speaker 1 I think to me, I think, I think him leaking DMs from Angie actually makes it seem more likely that he was interacting with Lisa Barlow because wouldn't you want to distract away from your main sugar mama of gossip?

Speaker 1 Wouldn't you want to like send the attention elsewhere to protect your source? I don't know. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 No. Well, no, he doesn't seem like a subtle person.
And you know who else isn't subtle? Lisa Barlow. You think Lisa Barlow gives, she'd be right in the comments.

Speaker 1 She was in the comments of somebody's TikTok this week, threatening to sue her, that TikTok girl, who's like,

Speaker 1 The reigning conversation. I had a lot of talk, a lot of conversations about Lisa Barlow with a lot of people this weekend.
A lot of people wanted to talk about Lisa Barlow that I encountered.

Speaker 1 And the reigning consensus from my small sample size pool of gay men, largely, I think there may have been a woman in there, is everyone believes,

Speaker 1 I think most people believe it was probably, this is stuff that Reddit dug up.

Speaker 1 And the reigning consensus is like Lisa Barlow is such a narcissist, she only cares about her shit. She doesn't care about finding other stuff about other people.

Speaker 1 But people probably do come to her with stuff and then she probably holds on to it.

Speaker 1 But like, she's a little bit too much of a narcissist to do the legwork of looking up someone else and i think that's a very good theory also this thing that i've had up on the screen for the past five minutes chelsea in the comments says any comment on lisa barlow being accused of using sniffies to lure and rob gay men that is one of the most hilarious rumors i've i've read in a long time i don't believe that's true but i love it i wish she were doing that I love, because by the way, what an honor for the gay men, because the story is always that like it's a serial killer.

Speaker 1 It's always Jeffrey Dahmer who's luring in the gay man. Could you imagine you get lured by a catfish and turns out just Lisa Barlow? Like, what an honor.
It's like, you know what?

Speaker 1 I was coming here to jerk off with you, and then maybe we could like do some crazy stuff in the swing, but I'm also happy just to sit and talk households with you, Lisa Barlow.

Speaker 1 What a pleasant surprise. Yeah, I mean, look, if someone robbed me, but they were also an icon who gave me a frosty, take it.
You know what? Take it. Like, do you get some Wendy's out of it?

Speaker 1 Then, like, fine. Is it considered robbing if you're willingly giving over $20 to get us like a burger? I don't think so.
I think think that's just a transaction.

Speaker 1 So dumb.

Speaker 1 Okay, so that's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 I saw someone made a tweet about it, and I guess people are

Speaker 1 people aren't really believing it, right?

Speaker 1 Sad, Sad Big Bird says, please let Lisa Barlow utilize Sniffies. By the way Sniffies is like the new grinder, I think.
It's like a cruising app or something. So I

Speaker 1 please put Lisa Barlow on Sniffies.

Speaker 1 Hi, Torso. How's it it going?

Speaker 1 I actually learned about Sniffies on this here show on this crappy hour when you were gone and Laura, Lara's from SUP filled in for you.

Speaker 1 And her and Carrie, I guess this was last October because they were doing something on their show called Lodober, where you went on sniffies and then you took as many loads as you.

Speaker 1 possibly could and I said that's gross and she said I can't judge people's kinks and I said judging people is my kink and checkmate checkmate ma'am.

Speaker 1 Load Tober is very different, but yet at the same time, it sort of does follow the rules of no carb Tober, which I just completed.

Speaker 1 I learned about no loads. That was the whole main point.

Speaker 1 You refused all the carb loads of the month. Yeah, I learned about sniffies through the New Yorker.
The New Yorker wrote a profile about Sniffies, and I thought that was funny.

Speaker 1 I was like, do Sniffies know that there's a New Yorker article about them? Either way, Lisa Barlow, please join Sniffies and tell us what that experience is like. Thank you.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, you're next. What do you like? What would you like to discuss? Okay, Frank.

Speaker 1 There are two things that I found that piqued my curiosity. This cannot be true, which is this is a random piece of gossip, which is that Natalia from Below Deck Med, you all remember Natalia?

Speaker 1 She was the actual like rival to Coyle. They were like best friends, but then Coyle turned on him.
And then she was like, I can't work with this anymore. So Natalia, we were always Team Natalia.

Speaker 1 But now,

Speaker 1 now what people on Reddit are saying is that Natalia is dating Andrew Tate? Is this possibly true? Yeah, she had a, she put out a picture and it was for Halloween and she was at his party, I guess.

Speaker 1 And she's like, oh, look, we're wearing matching outfit. Wife, hashtag wifey, something like that.
And so people got all over her like, Andrew Tate, are you fucking kidding me, Natalia? How dare you?

Speaker 1 And then, so she tried to say, I read that she tried to say it was fake or she got hacked or it was AI or something.

Speaker 1 But then someone's like, oh, no, it wasn't AI because here's another video of me walking around this party. And you also see her talking to Andrew Tate, like cozying up to him.
So

Speaker 1 obviously she did.

Speaker 1 This is now. Our second bravo lebridity after James Kennedy, who cozied up to Andrew Tate.
So, but it sounds like they're not dating, though. It sounds like she's.
Yeah, Lauren says not dating.

Speaker 1 She was at the same party and was spawning over him, calling him hubby, still gross. Yeah, still gross.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 She's probably too old anyway um the other thing i guess i should bring this up look at this i guess i should debbie says i just asked my friend chat gpt about sniffies oh how did that turn out

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 i have to say i have to i have to pop a certain bubble for us though since we're talking about andrew tate

Speaker 1 we love love love love Faye from Below Deck Adventure, and we have often called for her to come back on Bravo.

Speaker 1 But I went onto her Instagram maybe about like a month month and a half ago i just didn't bring this up because um i i anytime i thought about it just like like like it would didn't match any context to bring it up but this is a perfect segue she was posting some real problematic stuff including andrew tate videos and i was like fay

Speaker 1 Why? Now, please, Faye, please tell me you were hacked because I cannot have Faye be an Andrew Tate fan. Like I saw it with my own eyes.
She had Andrew Tate memes.

Speaker 1 She was doing a lot of anti-immigration stuff in the UK. there was a big march in the uk

Speaker 1 oh fay and i was like this that was that was hard for me like i've had like a month of mourning because she's like one of my favorites and i'm like please please let it be that fay was was hacked please because i cannot i i cannot accept a world in which fae is a andrew tate fan like i can accept it

Speaker 1 i know It was awful. It was awful.
I was really, really upset by it. So I'm just

Speaker 1 hacking because that actually could be a legitimate hacking if someone's like re re uh tweeting or not retweeting but like what posting posting stuff like that but like natalia that's not a hacking that was you were at a party no i'm not giving fay it's a hacking either who's gonna go fack uh facking hack that's how to say fucking hack who's gonna go fack uh somebody's you know, Instagram who is on like one season of a really bad season of

Speaker 1 hackers have strange choices, I will say they hack like it'll have hacked my dad

Speaker 1 i'm about to say they they they hack random people yeah they hacked my friend lindsey's mom multiple times and it's always like hello dear how are you and you're like oh god lindsay's mom got hacked again they hacked my dad constantly and then

Speaker 1 the only thing that the hacker ever does is he's like hey want to be friends i'm like you're my dad no i don't want to be friends you know but they just text everybody and say want to be friends that's their thing i'm not really sure what that hack is.

Speaker 1 Maybe it's just a lonely computer somewhere doing it.

Speaker 1 Okay, so the real housewives of Atlanta had started shooting and they were in Edinburgh. Oh, but I just want to say, by the way, I'm on Faye's Instagram now.
Just want to say,

Speaker 1 I don't think she was hacked. Oh, no, really?

Speaker 1 She is

Speaker 1 posting something about.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a lot of like really anti-Islamic stuff right now.

Speaker 1 And now

Speaker 1 it's Trumpy. Okay.
All right. Well, okay.
Well, our Faye era may have drawn to a close. Yeah.
That's really disappointing. Really disappointing.
But I hated your lipstick the whole time.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 fine. Okay.
So Atlanta has been shooting. And the reason this is interesting, well, first of all, the Daily Record.
Do I know this? I don't know.

Speaker 1 I was hoping it was like the Daily Fail or something, but this is Daily Record. I don't know who they are.
But somebody spotted them in Edinburgh. And And Edinburgh or Edinburgh.
How do you say it?

Speaker 1 I think it's Edinburgh.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Edinburgh. Okay, so they were shooted.
They're doing a cast trip over there. But the reason I bring it up is because the title is like, and everyone was shocked at what they were wearing.

Speaker 1 They were absolutely shocked. But there's that's nowhere in the article.
So I don't know. I don't know where that came from.

Speaker 1 But what was interesting about it to me was talking about who's in the cast. So it says, Here we go.
You ready? Yeah. Phaedra Parks, Marlowe Hampton.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 They're going to try that. That one again.
So Marlowe's better in a friend role. Marlowe's better.

Speaker 1 I like Marlowe. Yeah.
Oh, her.

Speaker 1 I like Marlowe. I think Marlowe just was stuck on a season where that guy, Eric, wasn't it Eric Fuller or whatever? He was just destroying the show from the inside out.
And he did it to Potomac also.

Speaker 1 And I think that like Marlowe has put in the time.

Speaker 1 So I want want marlowe to i'm happy for a marlo return personally i hope as a friend of i think as a main cast member she it was not good

Speaker 1 i think her like lying you know her lying and leaving kind of thing is good but her lying and staying and then just lying more and then just like i don't know i didn't i don't like that so marlo hapton um

Speaker 1 Say it again. Yeah, friend of.
So Portia Williams, Drew Sedora, Cynthia Bailey, and two cast, two new cast members were spotted parading along along George Street.

Speaker 1 So it says we're the new, we already know who they are. It's like Pinky something.
Hold on. Let me see.

Speaker 1 Pinky,

Speaker 1 Phaedra, Shamia, Kelly, Angela, while former stars Sheree and Kim are in talks to return as guest appearances. Pinky Cole Hayes, founder of Slate New ATL.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 Eudoxy Bridges and Tammy Rivera and Kay Michelle. They're floating a lot of names.

Speaker 1 Okay, this is clearly all the public has pounced on this because it's like there are too many people who are being floated.

Speaker 1 Yeah, two people from Love and Hip Hop who are the ones you just said, Tammy Rivera and Kay Michelle. And it says, Kenya Moore.
Kay Michelle's been in the mix a while, by the way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it says Kenya Moore suspended will not, and Brett Edie will not be coming and coming back. And also Cynthia Bailey will not reprise her role.

Speaker 1 But they just said in the above paragraph that Cynthia Bailey was, so I don't know how

Speaker 1 to believe. Maybe she won't be official friend of because that is an actual like designation as maybe she'll just appear.

Speaker 1 So you could be like a friend, a friend to friend of, friend to friend of

Speaker 1 friend to friend of friend to friend of friend to friend of friend to friend of Maria is asking for why was Kenya suspended I think she's officially fired now but Kenya was suspended because she brought the

Speaker 1 alleged sex pictures of Britt Eady to her salon and and outed them at that party and was like, this is, who is this hoe?

Speaker 1 She put up, she blew them all up into poster size and was like, who is this hoe? And then had a picture of this girl apparently giving a filacio to somebody or about to give Falacio to somebody.

Speaker 1 And so she got, she got kicked off, got kicked out of there. Yeah.
She, she flew too close to the sun. She did too much.
And she just, she didn't need to, but okay. And

Speaker 1 I think that they'll bring her back.

Speaker 1 Alexandra says, cynthia was on jeff lewis saying she was filming so there you go you know i love doing crappy hour we get instant answers to everything yeah we really do um

Speaker 1 uh i am i'm i'm encouraged by the next season of atlanta i think they they're like they were almost there last season to like have a good retooling and i think i mean i think angela was a great find right i think angela is one of the great newbies that they've had and i think angela did well i don't think that that Kelly did well or Britt.

Speaker 1 I didn't like Kelly or Britt. So it'll be interesting.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And Kelly's going to be in a lot of trouble.
I think she owes everybody money. She's not paying a lot of people, according to the streets.
The streets.

Speaker 1 I think Kelly will

Speaker 1 be good. I think she'll be good in this next

Speaker 1 version. I think she had her tryout run.
I think she did good enough to come back. And I'm hoping that she is like camping silly.

Speaker 1 let's see, see us, be us says Shamia should go back to friend of, and Kelly was awful. Shamia, I, yeah, I don't know.
I don't know. Is Shamia a friend of or is she a housewife?

Speaker 1 I can't tell where she is better.

Speaker 1 I think that like Phaedra, Portia, Angela, that is where we need to focus. And Drew Sedora, because Drew is just a, you know, as I've said it before, I'll say it again.

Speaker 1 She's a con artist and that's funny to me.

Speaker 1 I think Drew's good on the show yeah i think drew yeah drew drew serves a purpose on the show for sure i like shamia was okay you know she tried too hard

Speaker 1 and you know i think she she kind of came off with the reputation of being a tryhard and i think that was a fair reputation to earn i think she earned that um maybe if they bring her back i mean obviously they are bringing her back but maybe if she comes back this time and they don't try to push her as like the new lead like they did last year where they're like oh it's all built around shamia and she shamia is the mother hen and she keeps all the girls together if I think if we didn't have to deal with that side of it, maybe I don't know, like maybe less Shamia, but I don't know, give her another chance.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Feeling generous.

Speaker 1 I'm feeling like a generous audience member today. Yeah, why not?

Speaker 1 I'm just reading this from Reality Blurb. Report.
Alexia Nepola is back with Todd. Amid his $11 million lawsuit against Bravo, plus what she allegedly told the network about reconciliation.

Speaker 1 Please, Alexia, do not go back to Todd, especially since he's suing Bravo. Do not sacrifice your Bravo career for this man.
This is not a smart move. Please let this be a false rumor.
No,

Speaker 1 I don't, I don't, I mean, I don't think it's false.

Speaker 1 She's been seen with him quite a bit out and about, says our source, and she's doing a real shit job hiding it.

Speaker 1 This is definitely controversial, given Todd is currently in litigation with Bravo for defamation and other unauthorized use of his image.

Speaker 1 So she is saying that she's back with Bravo to get him to drop the lawsuit, but it's not true. And he doesn't have power over Todd, as has been witnessed by him suddenly walking out on her.

Speaker 1 He also doesn't have much of a case, and his lawyers will likely convince him to take a settlement without going to trial. I don't know that Bravo is going to settle.

Speaker 1 Bravo's not a big settling network. So far, they haven't been settling any of these cases that people have brought, right?

Speaker 1 I don't think so. They're not like CBS and Paramount settling left left and right with like the administration.

Speaker 1 They are like, I think Bravo, I think Bravo is pretty buttoned up in the sense that they know they have all the power.

Speaker 1 And I think that they just, I'm assuming, we could ask Sese this, but I think Bravo's like, try us, Todd Nepola. Try us.
You're going to fail.

Speaker 1 Our contracts are like ironclad.

Speaker 1 You do not have a leg to stand on. Yeah, I don't see them.
I don't see them settling. Also, the reports came out this week that Peacock lost $217 million

Speaker 1 in the past few months and hasn't gained any subscribers. So they don't have it.
You know what I mean? They do not have it. How did they lose that money?

Speaker 1 You're coming out for a handout to people who are broke.

Speaker 1 Did Peacock lose that money because they shelled out a bunch for Taylor Sheridan? Speaking of Paramount? Do you think that's why?

Speaker 1 Oh, God. Because you know that

Speaker 1 they stole Taylor Sheridan from Paramount. Paramount just.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's the funniest thing is that like Skydance just bought Paramount for all this money. Paramount shelled out all this money for South Park.

Speaker 1 South Park went, turned around, made fun of Trump, and probably put them in a precarious position. And now they've lost their, their, their Taylor Sheridan, you know, money gold mine.

Speaker 1 So I don't know what's going to happen with Paramount. And I, and that would make sense.
I'm like, how you say Paramount. You say Paramount.
Paramount. Paramount.

Speaker 1 I like to elevate it. You really do.
It's very fancy. It's very easy.
I call it Yellowstone.

Speaker 1 I call it Yellowstone A

Speaker 1 And Mayor of Tulsa.

Speaker 1 Ryan says, Ronnie, your mic

Speaker 1 resembles the green dildos being thrown on the WNBA courts. Are you the cause?

Speaker 1 Wait, I didn't know this. Oh, yeah, the dildos.
I was thinking the NBA. I was like, they're doing that at the NBA.
Of course they didn't do that at the NBA.

Speaker 1 What are they throwing dildos around for?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I'm assuming, is it like,

Speaker 1 I assume it's like a

Speaker 1 some sort of misogynist thing, or is it something that's welcomed? It might be something that's like welcomed. It might be like an ownership of it.
Like, yes, empowerment. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Griffin says it's sexism. That sounds about right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm not, I'm not sure about that. But I'll take it.
I'll talk into a dildo every day. I mean, it would make sense.
I think it would be on brand, don't you?

Speaker 1 Amanda says, by the way, that Peacock has commercials for ICE, so they could have lost subscribers for that, but multiple services do. So I don't know.

Speaker 1 I actually think that was probably probably people signed up for things like love island etc and then once that's over they unsubscribe and i know that that's a big issue that all the streamers are having is that it takes a lot of effort to like gain a subscriber and then they lose it and they have to gain them back again and this is like why the streamers are all are all crying that they're poor because their industry model is forcing them to put all this money into marketing to get the same people back on their platform.

Speaker 1 Whereas before with cable, you just had cable and you just go forward.

Speaker 1 And so that's why so much money is drawing up in entertainment because our fickle asses. But also we have a right to

Speaker 1 stop following the streamers when they're charging us. An arm and a leg.
Yeah, I was going to say

Speaker 1 like an old lady over here, but they're ridiculous with these prices. They are ridiculous.
They're so expensive now. They just raised all of them again.
They're going to raise them again.

Speaker 1 Netflix is so expensive and ridiculous. And they didn't really know how to get off that commercial TV model and they still don't know.

Speaker 1 I guess they thought they'd make it all up through subscribers, and they ain't making it all up through subscribers.

Speaker 1 So, I don't know, it's they're gonna have to truncate, you know, they're gonna have to shit or something.

Speaker 1 I don't know what's gonna happen, but listen, I ain't paying for all those, it's nothing you even watch on those things. I have like five of them, and I'm like, How much money?

Speaker 1 And plus, YouTube TV is so expensive. And then, YouTube TV put out a thing this week where they're like, Oh, really? You want to keep your this channel or that channel?

Speaker 1 You better start writing YouTube TV and beg them to keep us. I'm like, Yeah, so they can charge us another $10 a month.
Like, they do this three times a year. And no more, no more.
I'm taking a stand.

Speaker 1 No, I'm not. I know.

Speaker 1 I'm taking a stand by just saying something, but I'm not going to do anything. I have a question.
More importantly, Hillary in the comments said, Love Island Kids announced for BravoCon today.

Speaker 1 Who from Love Island is going to be at BravoCon? I have to know. I have to know who's going to be there.
That's funny. I don't know, but did you see that whole thing with Huda and Alandria?

Speaker 1 Where Huda,

Speaker 1 I know that there was something racing. Someone used the N-word N-word against Alandria and Huda was just laughing and thought it was like so hilarious.
What a surprise. Yeah, what a surprise.

Speaker 1 Huda sucks.

Speaker 1 Well, I knew I had heard that something racist happened because I saw that Amaya, I follow Amaya still on social media.

Speaker 1 And so she was like, As soon as I saw the video, I immediately contacted all important parties and I will not stand for racism whatsoever. And I was like, oh, no, something racist happened.

Speaker 1 And then I moved on in my life because I was like, I'm not going to get embroiled in this. The season's over.
Once the season's over, I'm like, bye, bye, kids. Have fun.

Speaker 1 Have fun staring at Issa's tattoo on his back.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And it's also just Huda, so you know that it's coming.
You know what I mean? Yeah. You know, something terrible is coming down the pike.

Speaker 1 Someone like Huda, you know, she can find a moment where people will feel for her or whatever, but she's not great as a human being. And that will always circle back, you know? Well,

Speaker 1 I wish we could talk about this more, but there is a deal with Netflix and we're not allowed to to talk anymore about Huda, unfortunately.

Speaker 1 Okay, so we were talking earlier about

Speaker 1 people being surprised by being fired or whatever, I guess, with Atlanta. But someone who is surprised, it's the only person surprised that they're fired.
Her name is Jennifer Aiden.

Speaker 1 Did you see the post she put up? Yes, I guess it was this week. I totally forgot.
Yes, we should have gotten this early. I totally forgot about this story.
Yes. Oh, my God.
So funny.

Speaker 1 Yes. And they don't have the whole post here.
You know what? We should look up Jennifer Aiden.

Speaker 1 Talk about something, Ben. So basically, she had posted up a story that was like, hey, baby, I've heard the filming already, but no one's calling me, baby.
So I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1 But there's a fox in the black, and that's all I know right now, pizza bagel.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was very much like, well, people are asking me if I'm going to come back. Oh, here it is.
Hey, guys, I just wanted you to hop on here and update you guys on a few things.

Speaker 1 A lot of you have been asking me

Speaker 1 if I'm still on the shower or not. But I can honestly say that nobody's told me nothing.
And they still haven't told me nothing. But I haven't checked either.
Life's been pretty busy.

Speaker 1 And I would only think about it when people asked, which is why I would have liked to have known so I can let you guys know. You know me, I like to keep it real.

Speaker 1 But all I've heard is what you've heard you probably know more than me actually i've heard they're they're test filming and i wasn't invited to bravo con so by the looks of it i think it's safe to say probably not and that's okay i'm good okay did you not see your jersey mics video or any of your last season you are the only person who doesn't seem to understand that you were fired a long time ago ma'am i mean you got fired over a tuna sandwich How embarrassing is that?

Speaker 1 I mean, a tuna sandwich lady. I I mean, obviously, it was more than that.
She got into a fight.

Speaker 1 But yeah, Jennifer Aiden.

Speaker 1 I mean, we all knew she was going to, she was going to flame out at some point. Like, she just was getting worse and worse.

Speaker 1 And she was like, very, she was very funny to watch, but wow, what an awful craven person.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, so she bored him. I don't know about the tuna.
I'm sorry, missed. I'll do anything you need.
I'll get back the tuna if you want to. Please let me come back on the show.
Please, baby.

Speaker 1 Please have me back.

Speaker 1 So, yeah,

Speaker 1 to, I'm sorry to bring up such old news to everybody else who already knew she was fired a year ago, but Jennifer, it's news to her. So, you know, sorry.
So there's that.

Speaker 1 Now, speaking of jobs, here is someone who's pretending they've always had a job, which they never really had, to my knowledge.

Speaker 1 Real housewives of Beverly Hills star Erica Jane announces return to DJ career. Girl, you never had a DJ career.
What the fuck are you talking about?

Speaker 1 is that person playing the cd player at the bada boom or whatever it's called

Speaker 1 the bada beam

Speaker 1 was it called twisters or or who it wasn't hooters it was like it was called titties

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 it's tamara strip clap titties bitch

Speaker 1 Amanda Foster, by the way, has a very good comment, which is too many DJs on Bravo. I agree.
Too many DJs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but at least the other other ones are like starter i mean meredith i don't think actually djs either she uses um stuff that that dude mixed for her very well the one who makes all of her songs kyle t mac or whatever he i think just made her whole set she just goes up there and presses playing dances around and stuff so you know she's having like a fun year with that but you know then we've got james and we've got maddie from southern hospitality and i think they're really doing it but erica is pretending she's been a dj this whole time and are we all just pretending that we're going to go along with this?

Speaker 1 Like, oh, yeah, she's been a DJ. You have not been a DJ, ma'am.
You have been a terrible singer. Okay.

Speaker 1 Keep your hacky jobs. Don't try to pull one over on me, ma'am.
Yeah, please don't.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, her being a DJ will elicit probably better music than her singing, so that's good. But yeah, so what is this going back to your DJ career?

Speaker 1 No, you like commandeering the iPod while Mikey dances in the living room is not being a DJ.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Um, so that's all on my list.
What do you have? Uh, do you have anything else to close out with?

Speaker 1 You know, for those who are wondering what happened to JT, you know, now that Southern Charm is starting up in about two weeks, honestly, JT,

Speaker 1 not once, I know, but JT has

Speaker 1 started a new life. He has sold everything, all of his belongings, and he has moved to Bali.
and he's just he says he's just retired retired from the

Speaker 1 renting airbnb business i guess so whatever that is entitled to whatever he's entitled to from that but he's basically sold everything and moved to bali and that's that's what we call a midlife crisis and um i only bring this up because it's really fun to imagine what his mom is doing right now just shaking her head like i swear that boy He has disappointed me so much.

Speaker 1 God.

Speaker 1 And Poppy, poor Poppy.

Speaker 1 That ugly couch and storage that he got that she needed yeah he didn't have anything because before southern charm he was wasn't he like living in a trailer or something outside trying to be friends with all the people from southern charm and worming his way in there so i don't think he had like a lot to say would you sell a toothbrush and move get out of here jt nobody cares good luck good luck to you good luck good luck to you jt

Speaker 1 all right well that brings us to the end of crappy hour well at least the audio portion we will be staying on for 15 or so to talk to you guys see what's going on with you guys.

Speaker 1 If you want to come on video chat, we will post the link right now. But to everybody who is listening on audio, thanks so much.
We'll talk to you in another couple weeks. Bye.

Speaker 1 Bye.

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Speaker 1 Hail the Cork Master, the Master of the Cork, Jennifer Corcoran. We got our wish.
It's Jen Plish. She's not harsh.
She's Jill Hirsch. My favorite Murdoch, Karen McMurdo.
She's a total knockout.

Speaker 1 It's Katie Manock. We love him madly.
It's Kyle Pod Shadley. In the study with a candlestick, it's Leslie Peacock.
G, it's Lisa H. We're ride or die for Lisa Ryder-Baron.

Speaker 1 She's a whiz, it's Liz Sarthe. Always killing it, it's Lola Al Kalani.
The incredible edible Matthew Sisters. She eases our woes, it's Melissa St.
Rose.

Speaker 1 There's a chance of meatballs, it's Rebecca Cloud. Maximum love for Sandy Maximoska.
She's the queen bee, it's Sarah Lemke. We cannot tell a lie, it's Sarah Telefson.

Speaker 1 Shannon, out of a cannon, Anthony. Please don't stop.
It's Solian Pop. Let's take off with Tam Laplain.
We're obsessed all with Tessa V.

Speaker 1 She ain't no shrinking violet couchar.

Speaker 1 We love you guys.

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Speaker 3 Picture this. You're standing on the beach when you notice something strange.
The horizon doesn't look right. At first, all you can see is a thin white line stretching as far as your eyes can see.

Speaker 3 Then, the line starts to rise. But it's not the horizon at all.
It's a wave. A 30-foot wall of water.
And it's racing straight toward you.

Speaker 3 On the day after Christmas in 2004, a 9.1 magnitude earthquake hit off the coast of Indonesia, triggering a devastating tsunami. It struck Thailand without warning.

Speaker 3 No alarms, no cell phone alerts, no evacuation.

Speaker 3 In this season of Against the Odds, experience one of the deadliest natural disasters in history through the perspectives of those who did everything they could to survive.

Speaker 3 Follow Against the Odds on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes of Against the Odds Tsunami in Thailand early and ad-free right now on Wondery Plus.