#3061 RHOP S10E05 Part 1: Nevis and Buttheads

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This is part one of a tw-parter

The Real Housewives of Potomac continues its cast trip, and no one is having more fun than Kierna.  Just kidding!  But in all seriousness, Angel finally has fun with the ladies and settles her beef.  Just kidding!  She’s still mad too. Will K and Angel ever have a good time?  Stay tuned! To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and participate in live episode threads, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens

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Speaker 1 Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crap Ends, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo. We just love to talk about.
I'm Ben Mandelker. Joining me today to talk about Real House House of Potomac.

Speaker 1 It's the one and only Ronnie Carom. Hi, Ronnie.

Speaker 1 Well, hello, Ben. How are you today?

Speaker 1 I am. I'm feeling great.
It's a Monday. Potomac was so funny last night.
It's so good this season. So I'm feeling invigorated.
Started off a fresh new week. I went to the farmer's market this morning.

Speaker 1 I got myself some vegetables to be, you know, healthy and lovely and wonderful. And I'm just excited.
I'm excited to recap today. Tonight we have Crappy Hour.

Speaker 1 It's at 5.30 on the West Coast, 8.30 on the East Coast. And we'll be talking about all sorts of.
you know, headlines and talk to you guys.

Speaker 1 That's going to be, you can find that on YouTube, on Instagram, on Patreon.

Speaker 1 And we hope you join us because we always have a really fun time so that's this evening and of course speaking of patreon we have our beautiful patreon we are going to be doing for this week's bonus episode a trail of trash for the new vander pump rules trailer it dropped literally five minutes ago while we were sitting here just shooting the shit and um i can't wait i can't wait so we'll be doing that on our patreon patreon.com slash watch our crap ends and then you know ronnie i think you know bravo con is next week uh i'm just gonna say oh god what is it it's next week no it's not no it's not we have two weeks um let me look is next week am i wrong am i wrong yes

Speaker 1 um we have two weeks no it's next week right it's next week isn't it the 17th no it starts on the third starts on the third well

Speaker 1 i think bravo con starts on friday but we're we're gonna be going out there on on thursday but uh yeah wow bravo con is next week it's happening wow and

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 we are still hammering out the details, but we are going to do a meetup. So keep an eye and an ear out for what that's going to be.

Speaker 1 We're just, we're figuring out stuff with venues and stuff like that and where we'll be. But we just want to let you all know we are going to do a Krappins meetup and we're very excited.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll be doing some kind of hangout with you guys, a meet and greet. It's not money.
It's free. So I hope you guys can come if you're there.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 We ain't there to make a money off of you it's just fun times to to meet you guys and see you because bravo con is a party and there's a lot of crappens listeners that are going to be there so you know start it off right yeah we're just going to have a fun time and this will be my first bravo con but from from what i hear at night uh there's all sorts of these things that happen these these parties that like you know no one gets no one can get into right like that apparently it's like so-and-so has a party and like you have to be a certain bravo leber to go to it and it's like that we'll have a party.

Speaker 1 We'll have a party. Yeah, we're going to do our own.
We'll have our own party and everyone can come and we'll just have a really fun time and we'll all party and get wasted and do fun things.

Speaker 1 So yeah, stay tuned for more details about that as we get them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so we're going to be having fun over there. I hope you can join us.
And today is Real Housewives of the Potomac, Season 10, Episode 5, Sunshine and Tech and Sexts.

Speaker 1 Sunshine and Sunshine and Sexts. Well, they might as well call it dinner plates and sexs because my my dinner plates remind me of sunshine

Speaker 1 remember remote said that i was a throwback we used to say that all the time and remote's like

Speaker 1 these plates they're yellow they remind me of sunshine

Speaker 1 yep that's why we say sunshine so you know what

Speaker 1 sunshine and mevis did you see i actually had this on crappy hour links but let me pull it out because this is so fucking funny to me did you see the potomac contract that was finally released between

Speaker 1 Stacey

Speaker 1 and TJ? No, John John finally released it. That's, you know what, Hughes News, you lose.
Supposedly

Speaker 1 I am believing this. Everyone loves Stacey now.

Speaker 1 Two seconds.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So

Speaker 1 this is on Reality Blurb. That's where we're getting this.
And they got it from Bravo and Cocktails. You know, who knows? Everybody got it from somebody, okay?

Speaker 1 But it's just a paper.

Speaker 1 Looks like someone printed it at home in Helvetica. And it just says in caps all on the top, Real Housewives of Potomac contract.
I, Stacey D.

Speaker 1 Rush, willingly entered this agreement with Thomas Anthony Jones Jr. as an equal partner and cast member of Bravo TV's Real Housewives of Potomac, produced by Truly Original.

Speaker 1 I agree that Thomas Anthony Jones Jr.

Speaker 1 is entitled to 50% of my total salary earned as compensation for my appearance for the 2024 season as a cast member and each season I appear as a cast member of Royal House as a Potomac thereafter.

Speaker 1 This contract shall automatically renew each season and remain in effect until my employment as a cast member of Potomac ends or a mutually agreed time. Signed May 5th, 2024.

Speaker 1 Signed by supposedly both of these people. Now, her signature is not even the cursive.
It's just

Speaker 1 2024 the season had already aired

Speaker 1 yeah five five twenty four

Speaker 1 be smarter

Speaker 1 contract

Speaker 1 what do you how

Speaker 1 does that make sense five five twenty four would be

Speaker 1 the season's over the season already had filmed and was and had already aired at that point like what's what sort of like come on be do be better with your fake contract at least like get say 2023 you say february 2023 or like april like i'll be right am i crazy you don't we were

Speaker 1 real house was a potomac reunion 2024 let's see when it was okay the season eight reunion aired in 2024 and consisted of three parts yeah so you're right yeah

Speaker 1 Because remember, we were at Watcher Happy on March 31st. It aired on March 31st, 2024.
So why would you sign a contract after and after he dissed you? Yeah. So 100%.

Speaker 1 Are we vindicated in not believing this?

Speaker 1 That is the worst.

Speaker 1 That's crazy.

Speaker 1 Like, that's so sloppy. What a sloppy fake contract.
Can you send me the link? I need to see this with my own eyes. I am.

Speaker 1 I am. I just closed it.
Okay, I'll find it. I will rummage around.
Hold on. Let me.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 I'll pull it up for you. Recently closed.
Okay, Real House.

Speaker 1 It's actually so sloppy that I'm like, maybe you read it wrong, Ronnie. I'm like, now I've got to double-check your work, Ronnie, because I just

Speaker 1 double-check me. Well, you know, you do have to double-check me.
And I freely admit that because I

Speaker 1 do

Speaker 1 have like a crazy person brain, you know. But

Speaker 1 here, let me get this link. I think I found it.
I know that we're wasting people's time. Okay, yeah, I see you in the document.
It literally said, okay, Ronnie. Did I get it wrong?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm looking at it right now. It literally says 5-5-24.

Speaker 1 It says

Speaker 1 is entitled, what, like that? Why would she,

Speaker 1 after they had that fallout on the reunion that was filmed in January? In fact, we know it was filmed in January because when we were at Watcher Happens Live, Andy was like, I got to show you.

Speaker 1 He was talking to us about the reunion. He's like, he's like, well, we just filmed the reunion.

Speaker 1 So, like, why? It's now four months later. Why would like this?

Speaker 1 So stupid. It is so stupid.
And also, why is she going to agree to give him money for every season she's on? That's just ridiculous. No, that's, that's the most

Speaker 1 and half. Yeah.
You give somebody half your income. I mean, I know first season people don't make that much money, but still.
Well, Preston, if I'm, I'm scrolling down here.

Speaker 1 Preston, who we, we know and love from Summerhouse Martha's Vineyard, says. Preston Mitcham, who just got married.
So congratulations to him. He just married Donald.
Donald.

Speaker 1 He says, as an attorney, even the looks of this PMO piss me off, maybe?

Speaker 1 From the randomly bolded RHOP contract at the top to the paragraph spacing to his signature not being there, to him not being a cast member, and therefore no contractual relationship with truly Bravo NBCU, even if they entered one, it should be written very differently.

Speaker 1 Three crying emojis.

Speaker 1 It's like it was written.

Speaker 1 It doesn't matter. Like, no matter what is written, the fact that this is the most damning thing is the fact that it's dated May 5th, 2024.
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 That's idiotic. I love Stupid Dude.
So there you go. I look at this as a Stacey vindication.
I will take it as a Stacey Rush vindication.

Speaker 1 You guys, don't you love camels? Let's take a look at this camel. Selling on the QVC.
The QVC clips have been going around and they are just hilarious. They are hilarious.

Speaker 1 I mean, the best one really is her saying, talk about, talk about length, talk about drama, talk about stones, talk about comfort, so lightweight. Like, that's the best.

Speaker 1 And I do kind of have a feeling like people are trying to like be like, wait, what about this one? What about this one? And they're all very funny, but honestly, none of them can top that one.

Speaker 1 That's like, with that, that's just like the supreme with the camera tight on her face and her eyes are like flaring and her face is going from like smile to like fierce. It's so camp and so gay.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's great. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's great stuff. So I consider this vindication, madame.
So congratulations.

Speaker 1 You've been vindicated by a court of crappins. Yeah, absolutely.
All right. So here we go.
Real Housewives of the Potomac, Sunshine, and Tex. Okay.

Speaker 1 So we are at dinner in Nevis and Ashley has just revealed that Stacy

Speaker 1 has been trying to get with Chris Samuels.

Speaker 1 With the giant Chris Samuels.

Speaker 1 P50. She's like, who told you that? Well, my friend is a publicist, and he works with a lot lot of athletes.

Speaker 1 And then Tatiana told me the night of my Bloomba that you had reached out to her to connect you with Chris Samuels. I adore Chris Samuels.
He is a great man, a great father. We are good friends.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but like... And it's not his fault his golden goose was stolen.
I would be upset too.

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Speaker 1 Could you imagine Jesus having a golden goose? He never would have had to fish.

Speaker 1 That would have changed the whole Bible. Talk about gold.
Talk about ovioid. talk about omelets talk about fortune so much

Speaker 1 talk about the father talk about the son talk about the holy spirit talk about gold eggs am i right guys

Speaker 1 so she's like yeah i know i know him he's a great man what a great father and now she's like how do you know these things about him and she's like we are very very good friends i was just asking tatiana to hook me up with a very close friend who i've I've known for years.

Speaker 1 But how did that friendship come to be? Well, both of us have been, I've gone through a divorce. We both have a lot of friends in common, and that's, that's what it is.

Speaker 1 By the way, Ashley asking, how did you become friends with Chris Samuels? What, like,

Speaker 1 what is shady about her ever becoming friends with Chris Samuels? Like, why is that any different from Giselle becoming friends with this other football player or

Speaker 1 like anyone knowing any football? Like, I mean, did we not see, like, what about Giselle dating Jason Cameron? Isn't that, that is also like a weird thing? And why is that not questioned?

Speaker 1 Or was it not questioned? Or any of the. I don't think any of it's weird.
I mean, you're allowed to cook whoever you want.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's weird if Stacey climbed on top of that volcano and, you know,

Speaker 1 pounded it. I mean,

Speaker 1 she's allowed to do that. She was single.
He's single. Yeah.

Speaker 1 She has no allegiance to Monique. whatsoever.

Speaker 1 And by the way, none of these ladies do either. They were the ones who ran her off the show.
And now they're acting like, wow, this is like a violation of girl code.

Speaker 1 I know Giselle over here is standing up for Monique. I'm sorry.
You're talking about Monique. Shouldn't you get your bodyguard in the room to discuss her? I know.
Giselle.

Speaker 1 Giselle, who probably still can't go into a Staples because there are too many binders in there.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, I actually stood up for Monique, to be fair.
So

Speaker 1 she's like, yeah, we've both been divorced. And she's like, well, Chris is telling people too, girl.
It's not.

Speaker 1 And she's like, well, I mean, if you were a guy, wouldn't you tell someone that I was trying to date them? I mean, are you kidding have you seen my qvc clips

Speaker 1 and angels like do you know how many people slipped into my dmings after i talked about that camel sweater my dmings so angel's like um as a wag i just want to say he's not like that and jasie's like oh so you know chris samuels

Speaker 1 he's one of bobby's mentors yeah so he's like he's like the he's the wag actually i'm sorry he's the ag of the wag you know because he's the actual athlete you know what i'm talking about.

Speaker 1 Wait, actually, no, none of the athletes are actually in there. Okay, whatever.
I'm getting confused in my own anime in my own

Speaker 1 acronym, but just so you know, I am a wag.

Speaker 1 And I'm a bigger wag than all of you. Okay.
Yeah, this was a real weird episode for Angel. I knew that Angel wasn't my favorite.
Like, I just didn't think she really had the personality.

Speaker 1 You know, you can kind of tell right from the start. She didn't really pop.
No. But, you know, you give everyone a chance, but she's kind of blowing it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I feel bad for her. She seems sad about blowing it, but she's not great.

Speaker 1 Never let someone who's not good on your show cast the other person on your show. Thank you.
That's a great idea. The fact that they're letting Kiarna bring people onto the show is just insane.

Speaker 1 It's like asking your employee who does the least. Like, do you know any friends? Do you know any friends who might want to pick up some shift?

Speaker 1 A person who's late 10 times this week and barely does anything while they're at work? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I agree. You know, first episode, I was optimistic about Angel.
I was like, I kind of like her. She's like, you know, she's spunky.

Speaker 1 And then she has like done worse and worse every episode to the point where now it's clear that she probably will just be a one season wonder. And

Speaker 1 yeah, this is, this is why we can't, this is what happens when you let Kiarna onto the show because she really was never been like a very good housewife.

Speaker 1 And now that she's trying harder, she's actually doing worse. So, um, but it is funny knowing like I love the fact that we all as an audience are like, Kierna's like not doing a good job, right?

Speaker 1 But I like that the cast members are also like, Kierna's not doing a good job. And like, we're all in it together.
Like, what the hell with Kierna?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Uh, so here Angel goes overstating something and then understating something, which is kind of, I'm learning one of her patterns.

Speaker 1 So she's like, oh, yeah, Chris Samuels is one of Bobby's mentors. Yeah.
Huge deal. Mentor, mentor, big word, guys.
So then the producer asks her about it.

Speaker 1 And she goes, Yeah, we know Chris because one of the colleagues that was recruiting Bobby was Bama. And that's where Chris was going at the time.

Speaker 1 So I think that he was kind of being a big brother to him, but that's the extent of it. No big deal.
Just a big brother. So we barely know, but he's a brother and a mentor, but don't really know.

Speaker 1 You know, Angel. What are you saying? Listen, listen, Waggy Poo.
Okay.

Speaker 1 This, it's too much.

Speaker 1 Okay. Because

Speaker 1 listen here, Waggy Pooh.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 She is every scene, she's bragging about being a wag. And I know that being a wag is something to brag about.
You brag about being a wag. Okay, sure.

Speaker 1 But she really is taking on this, this idea that she's like an elder statesman, you know, and sure, that's something that like Cherise, that's kind of like Sharice's lane, by the way.

Speaker 1 And I think Sharice has earned it because she was like a wag to a coach, a basketball player who became a coach. And she went through like all the bullshit and then got spat out on the other end.

Speaker 1 And now she's older. Her kids are older.
They're in college or maybe beyond. And I feel like Cherise is

Speaker 1 a great representative of a mid-Atlantic elder stateswoman of the wag community. But Angel's only 36.

Speaker 1 Also, what was great about Cherise is that she hated her husband. So it was like, I'm, I'm a wag who stole, who, who ended up getting all the money, you know?

Speaker 1 So it was like a successful divorcee wag, which I think was more fun to watch. And I don't, I don't even know that it's the, it's the wag part of it that bothers me.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't care who you're married to. I really don't want to hear about your husband all the time.
And it's, it's not only on real housewives, it's in real life too. Like, I'm friends with you.

Speaker 1 I'm not friends with your fucking husband. I don't care what your husband did today.
I don't care what your fucking husband's opinion is on anything. I don't want to talk about your husband.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm not going to lunch with you if all you're going to do is talk about your husband. I would hang out with that loser, but I'm not with him.
I'm with you. So let's talk about you, you know?

Speaker 1 Yeah. So it's, it's kind of sad.
I don't like it i don't know why i just only sort of like noticed or maybe just like process that you have like an eye patch on right now

Speaker 1 oh i'm just playing with it because i i was wearing the uh leah black eye patch things earlier uh go get them but uh i took them off before we started this but i feel like this eye needs some more because i sleep on my face on this side so this eye is real haggy this one's a lot look how my cis eye looks yeah Leah black.

Speaker 1 Look how my cis eye looks and look how haggy this one is. I can't tell you got a patch on the haggy one.

Speaker 1 I'll take your word for it.

Speaker 1 I do think that, like, I agree with you. Like, I don't want to hear about Bobby.
I think it's actually funny.

Speaker 1 Like, it's, it's funny because she's so ridiculous about it because she's clearly insecure. So she feels like she has to sort of, she sort of has to like flex about this.

Speaker 1 I just think that like, she's acting like she's the first wag that's been on the show. And this is a show that like Sharice was on the first season.
We had Jassy last season.

Speaker 1 There have been wags that have come through and there's wags all over the real housewives in general. I mean, even freaking Catherine, what's her face?

Speaker 1 Catherine Catherine Edwards was a wag to Donnie Edwards back in the day on Beverly Hills. Like the wags are everywhere.

Speaker 1 So like you don't get like any like bonus cred for being the wag of a starter who like only recently wrapped up his NFL career.

Speaker 1 Like if you want to be like an elder wag, you have to at least turn 40 first and foremost.

Speaker 1 And then you also have to go through the post-wag bullshit of like the guy's done with his career and now he's having an existential crisis and your marriage is going to shit because he can't deal with the the fact that his like his life plan is now like crumbled to ashes that's when you become an elder stateswoman wag but not cmt or whatever yeah is it called cmt

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Speaker 1 it's not whatever that's the brain thing you know like you need some more history you need to you need to be in the trenches a little bit more that's what we're saying but you also just have to you just have to be older yeah like you're the youngest one you're one of the youngest ones on this cast and you're trying to act like you are this mother hen to these young wags.

Speaker 1 And it's just, it's just listen here, baby wag, baby wag, baby waggy poop. We're not buying it,

Speaker 1 and we are kind of being haters. I don't hate her, I just would like to see her not

Speaker 1 brag about her husband's accomplishments so much and kind of you know come into her own, which I think sometimes housewives is really good for, you know. So maybe she will.

Speaker 1 I don't think she'll have the time, honestly. But we'll see.
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Speaker 1 So Wendy's just like, the lobster is great.

Speaker 1 Wendy's just over there enjoying her food. So funny this episode.
I was like, damn, why'd you have to get into a fraud scandal? You're like, really?

Speaker 1 Kind of like unlocking a sort of great version of yourself on the show. You're sort of, you're hitting your peak right now.
Why did you do this to yourself, Wendy?

Speaker 1 Aside from the fact that also, why'd you destroy your career and future? But, you know, also, why did you do that? Well, because

Speaker 1 it's only how it affects us.

Speaker 1 How could you do this to us? And you know, your children, but us mainly.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So Ashley's like, well, Stacey, if you want to call Giselle out, why don't you talk about yourself? And Giselle's like, well, she didn't really call me out. I mean, I'm just out here in the streets.

Speaker 1 And so she doesn't really have much to say. She's just like, well, I'm back with my husband.
And Wendy says, okay, she's back with her husband. She ain't giving Chris no poom poon.

Speaker 1 She's like, okay, listen, Ashley, we're just getting into the sprawn, Sean Springs of it all. And now you come, put your cape on to be Captain Save-A-Hoe for Giselle.

Speaker 1 So Giselle doesn't have to talk about her shit. Mm-hmm.
And Wendy's like, Ashley, move out of the way. So Giselle asks Stacey, have you ever met Monique? Ah! And Wendy's like, oh shit.

Speaker 1 And Stacey goes, I haven't, but you all are friends with her, right? Yeah. And they're like, yeah, we are.
She says, well, I haven't met her. Maybe one day I will, but I haven't.

Speaker 1 I mean, surely she's not going to, I don't know, return to this TV show and we're queuing it up right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Stacey tells us, you can't expose something that's not true. I'm going to live my best life in that nameless robe and have a great time.

Speaker 1 So Stacy is like, yeah, you guys want me to be somebody else so bad. And you just can't accept who I am.
It's unbelievable. I am who I am and who I am needs no excuses.
You need a breath, Mint.

Speaker 1 Okay, I will take that. We'll take that in stride.
So now

Speaker 1 dinner's done. And, you know, it's still another thing of like, let's try and, let's try and start a fight.
And this was another fail. It was another audition fail.

Speaker 1 So a night full of audition fails wraps up and now they go back to their rooms, but we're going to have a little birthday thing for Wendy first.

Speaker 1 So they go over to Giselle's place and Giselle's like, you forced us last year, to celebrate you every fucking day. So this year you get one day.

Speaker 1 One day. Five minutes of one day.
Yeah. So, okay, well, okay, I'll get this one.
So they're all laughing. And Ash is like, hey, do you want to play a game, Wendy?

Speaker 1 So they're like, oh, my God, we're going to play a game. Which, of course, like, whenever we hear that phrase, who wants to play a game? It's like, you know, trauma starts to set in.

Speaker 1 But this was actually more or less okay. So, oh, my God, it's going to be fun.
We're all going to hang out. We're going to play a game.
We're going to party. And like, let's have the best time ever.

Speaker 1 Kierana, what do you think about that? I'm tired.

Speaker 1 So, Kierna's tired. She's going to go to bed.
So, Giselle's like, you're not feeling it. She's in a bad mood with everybody, but did anything even happen with Kierna tonight?

Speaker 1 I think she had a, I forget. I think she may have had a dust up with Jassy, but was that lately? I don't know with the Jassy.
But I don't.

Speaker 1 But she's just, well, she was also like annoyed about earlier. I mean, Kierna's just like, you know, she's sulky.
sulky and Giselle's like, oh, well, if you want to go to sleep, you can. Good night.

Speaker 1 Bye. Bye.
There's the door. There's the door to your bed.
Get into it. Bye.

Speaker 1 Like not even attempting to. Yeah.
I just can't with Kierana.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I can't, I can't with Kirina because she starts all the fights and then gets mad that she's in all these fights. Yeah.
Like you started it.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. You know, it's like the cow being mad that it's milked again.
Although I guess that's against the cow's will. You know, I'm like, you're the one producing all the milk.

Speaker 1 Why are you producing all this milk and then mad when I want some for my coffee, coffee cow? But the dairy farm. I guess that's against the cow's will.
So that's a bad, that's a bad analogy.

Speaker 1 The dairy farm I went to back in May,

Speaker 1 they have this like technology now, this like milking technology that the cow, when the cow wants to be milked, it like steps into like a little stall and like a robo arm comes out.

Speaker 1 It like senses the cow and its udder and it like.

Speaker 1 can see where the udder is and it attaches on and milks the cow and then like the cow's like okay moving on and i walk i saw it happen like the cat like it was a free will milking so just so you know there are some cows out there that have some autonomy honestly do they sell that for humans sounds like an amazing thing to have in your home yeah yeah it could be i'm ready just you know do whatever you got to do i'm filled with poison all right just do do whatever you got to do hooray

Speaker 1 help me kierna

Speaker 1 explains um she says well i was so excited about this trip and then i got i got the windy issue which is like i got the windy issue which is like a no issue and and I got the Jassy trying to yell in my face and my girlfriend is now a catfish and like I've seen enough um okay so just so you know you started um two of those issues just just so you know so that's just this is a reminder before you go to bed and you also didn't go too crazy standing up for your catfish for that's what I was thinking about

Speaker 1 she is like she's so upset about her friend them coming for her friend that she's just gonna leave angel there with everyone and just go to sleep yeah but Kirina should learn she wants a bunch of people to chase her off and be like how are you doing?

Speaker 1 You know, how are you doing? But you're, your thing on this show is that you have diarrhea and no one cares and you're still that girl. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Here we are, like three vacations later or whatever, three years later, and you're still that girl. You've got diarrhea and nobody cares.

Speaker 1 Yep. You're fired.
So Ashley's game is that you either you're asked a question. Take this camouflage bag with you.
Just kidding. Let's get her arrested.

Speaker 1 Give Kirina the camouflage bag and send her to the airport and call the police and warn them that she's on the way.

Speaker 1 So the game is you're going to be asked a question and you either answer truthfully or you take a drink of tequila. And so they're all down for that.
They start with Wendy.

Speaker 1 And the question, of course, from Ashley is, have you ever been attracted to a woman sexually?

Speaker 1 And Stacey goes, oh my gosh, that's where we're starting. We're not even going to start with baby Jesus on a camel.

Speaker 1 And Wendy goes, yeah, well, it was a strip about the stadium nightclub in DC and she was so bad. She had braces.
And I don't know why I thought that was so i don't know but she was gorgeous wow

Speaker 1 a terrible stripper with braces in dc well listen we've all got our we've all got our kinks yeah so she's like well i do have a confession because the question you asked twenty i wish you would ask me because i've always had this crazy crush on rachel madow

Speaker 1 and they're like uh

Speaker 1 Ashley, that was not what anyone was expecting to be.

Speaker 1 The look on Ashley's face. And this woman has slept with Michael Darby multiple times.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 She's also, by the way, she's like, she's also now leaning into being a drag king, and yet she's still confounded by the fact that Rachel Maddow might be sexually attractive to someone.

Speaker 1 So she is like, yes, Rachel Maddow, one of the hottest women I've ever met. And I just, oh, I love it when she puts on her red and white striped sweater and gets lost in a crowd.

Speaker 1 I think you're talking about Waldo. Oh,

Speaker 1 him too. I like the word.

Speaker 1 No, I'm seeing somebody tangible. Like, you can call her up right now.

Speaker 1 Well, you didn't say that to Wendy, and she said it was a stripper with a bad stripper with braces in DC. Why are you making different rules for different people, bam?

Speaker 1 You can't be in charge of this game anymore. I know.
Like, why is Rachel Maddow like not? I mean, hello. Wendy prior to

Speaker 1 scandal was like a commentator on MSNBC. They actually have a pretty good connection to Rachel Maddow, and they're also on NBC.
It can happen. We can make it happen.

Speaker 1 But I also think that Ashley's basically just fishing for someone to say, remember that time that like we showed each other our vaginas in the, in the bathroom after like that, when we were partying that one time, and that she just wants to relive that thing, and no one's giving it to her.

Speaker 1 In fact, if anything, Tia is like, part of me wonders, is Tia just shutting this down? She's like, Okay, I'm gonna throw Rachel Maddow into the mix and just let we'll move on after that, I'm sure.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna throw a real speed bump into this whole thing.

Speaker 1 And so, yeah, Ashley's like, it needs to be someone tangible. And Stacey goes, isn't she a lesbian?

Speaker 1 I thought that was funny. Point of this, that, like, who's a woman you're attracted to? That doesn't work if she's a lesbian.

Speaker 1 You're not supposed to pick a lesbian.

Speaker 1 But yeah, she's like, isn't she a lesbian? And Tia's like, well, she's just very witty. She can have my mub up.
I'm joking. I'm joking.

Speaker 1 So Ashley's like, I choose Jazzy. Do you wholeheartedly believe that there's no infractions that are happening? And she's like, you mean cheating? And she goes, yeah, is Darius cheating on you?

Speaker 1 And she's like, no, currently, no. Were there infractions in the past? Yes.
Do I have one child that was created and delivered wrapped in a gift box?

Speaker 1 Possibly. Did I just give birth to a new child that didn't come from me, but arrived just randomly the other day? Yes, but was it an infraction? Still not sure.
May have just done it.

Speaker 1 Jazzy's wording on the kids are so funny. Did I pay an extra 20% in a door dash tip to the person that brought the child who was created for us to my door i did

Speaker 1 so she's like well i just think that we're like a little like scratching our heads you know from the thing from last time do you want to get mad about it all the time but like whatever i mean if she can accept it and move on then by golly that's good enough for me as evidenced by the fact that i just brought it up again

Speaker 1 Dunna.

Speaker 1 Alice is really trying to hold auditions here and nobody is playing. You know, Tia's like, I'll bang Rachel Maddow.

Speaker 1 What do I care? You know, take it. And Jazzy's like, yeah, whatever.
He's cheated. Who cares? Wend's rich.
He's rich as hell. Wendy's like, okay, let me accelerate this along.

Speaker 1 Let me ask the question that's actually going to create conflict. Angel, this question's for Angel, a girl who I don't know.
Angel, if you could kill anyone in this group, who would you kill? And

Speaker 1 whoa, Angels, I'll answer. I'll answer.
As a wag, I can answer. I've been through the trenches with Bobby and I can answer this.
Okay. In this moment, the person who I would kill is Giselle.

Speaker 1 And they're like, whoa, Giselle, but why? Why?

Speaker 1 But then they also. Kill the bitch.
Kill that bitch. Kill that bitch.

Speaker 1 Am I dead? I've witnessed you.

Speaker 1 Me, Giselle.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're dead because I was so nice to you. And then you called my ass a catfish.
And they all start cackling. And she's like, and let me tell you, I'm that motherfucker, the end.
She's all happy.

Speaker 1 So now like all, she like stands up from the table because she realized that like she said something that actually caused people to laugh. So now she's acting like, yeah, that's right, everyone.

Speaker 1 The new queen of Potomac is here.

Speaker 1 And by the way, Giselle, like you have a different face in your photo. You cannot be sensitive about that.
You got called out because you did it. You did too much with your filters.
You did.

Speaker 1 You went too far. And on this show, they're not going to let you get away with that.

Speaker 1 Although Giselle does kind of look like anime in some of her Instagram photos. But like you told me.
I saw people that people were posting. Her face is her face, though.

Speaker 1 It's an anime version of her face, but like Angel's face was a totally different face. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Don't throw filters when you live in a Vaseline house, is all I'm saying.
Okay. Because it's a lot of filters going.

Speaker 1 But yeah, yeah, I can see what you're saying. I can see what you're saying.
So then Wendy's like, yeah, come to the dog's eye, Angel. And Giselle's like, well, at least she's not dead.

Speaker 1 At least we know she has a pulsar.

Speaker 1 And Wendy's like, oh, don't you think it's so interesting how once Kiarna left, Angel seemed to rise like a phoenix from the ashes. This angel was cool.
This angel was cool.

Speaker 1 And now they get to work wedging the two of those friends apart. So Stacey's like, whoa.
She's like, I don't, Angel, I don't know what happened. Was it maybe the killer bee? Whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1 He was like, no, that's just killer me.

Speaker 1 I was also thinking of saying killer west, but the killer me rhymed better. So that one.

Speaker 1 um,

Speaker 1 yeah, that's just killer me. Okay, let's quit while we're ahead over there.
So Giselle's like, well, ladies, we have a long day tomorrow. Ashley was unable to start any fights, so let's go to bed.

Speaker 1 So she kicks him out, and Tia's like, let me go call away to my mouth.

Speaker 1 So Angel hugs everyone. Everyone's giving hugs, Angel.
They're like, yay. We're like, okay, now we see why you're on this show.
Welcome. We finally see the real you.

Speaker 1 We can welcome you into the sorority. Come on in.
And they all

Speaker 1 have five episodes, but Angel had a decent five minutes. Everybody, cheer, cheer, cheer.
Hooray, everybody, grab a soda. Great game.
Grab a soda out of the chest on your way home. Okay.

Speaker 1 So yeah, they like all like walk by, like, like high-five each other, like the end of a soccer game.

Speaker 1 So it's the next day, and we're back. We're in like the center of festivities and fun and joy on all of Nevis.
It's Kieran and Angel's villa.

Speaker 1 And they're sitting there having some cocktails, cheersing, and Kieran is toasting to today being a much better day. And Angel's like, Yeah, it doesn't really feel like it.

Speaker 1 I'm really disappointed in Giselle. Kieran's like, Yeah, I mean, here's the thing: like, you have to like two beautiful children.
You're here, you're still breastfeeding while you're even here.

Speaker 1 And, like, you know what I mean? And like, that's like an incredible insult to like make fun of your face like that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so Giselle comes, and um, Kieran is like, We were just discussing it. And she's like, okay, okay, okay.
And she's like, and I'm the best way.

Speaker 1 And I don't want you to not know because, and she's like, okay, okay, you can go now. You can leave now.
Goodbye. I'm not here to waste time with you, Kierna.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 Angel gets a paper towel. And has a talk with Angel.
Yeah, Angel gets a paper towel and starts immediately crying. And Giselle is actually really surprised.

Speaker 1 And I think she's like genuinely surprised here. She's like, oh, wait, wait, you're crying? Oh, no, no, no, no.
And Giselle's like, oh my God, no, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Like, Giselle has that thing of like,

Speaker 1 I don't know, maybe some people will think this is fake because Angel thinks it's fake, but I felt like Giselle was like, oh, shit, okay, maybe like, like, okay, like something's wrong.

Speaker 1 Let me, let me tend to this. Went too far or something.
It seemed like she was generally like, no, no, no, no, no, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I didn't want to hurt you.

Speaker 1 Just being like, I think she's basically saying, I was just being shady. I thought you'd be down with it because you got cast on the show.
But like, you're more sensitive than I realized. Okay, sorry.

Speaker 1 I apologize. I apologize.

Speaker 1 And she's like, by no means do I want to hurt you.

Speaker 1 And Angel is saying, you know, I'm disappointed because I look at you kind of like a big sister. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 1 You don't know her that well. Yeah.
What would you call? Why would you look at Giselle as a big sister? I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 Well, you know, a big sister that maybe pushes you down the stairs and stuff because she, she's probably scary. But she's like, and then, you know, my experience was just, it's just fucked.

Speaker 1 And it's not something I expected. And especially not from you being a mother.
We all know that people who are mothers are morally above everybody else in the world, we know it, yeah.

Speaker 1 Being a mother as a mother, how could Giselle as a mother do something so cruel to a younger person? I'm like,

Speaker 1 do you know the first rule of mothers

Speaker 1 rule with a reign of terror?

Speaker 1 Um, but I was just reading about Marlene Dietrich last night because her daughter died, and um, I had no idea that Marlene Dietrich was the biggest monster of the 20th century. Oh my God.

Speaker 1 She like refused to. What'd she do so bad? It is actually astounding.
She would not let her daughter go to school because she wanted her daughter to be her handmaiden.

Speaker 1 And so, like, the daughter was, she, and she also did not like, she didn't like English. She thought it was an ugly language.
So she really, she didn't want her daughter to like learn English.

Speaker 1 So her daughter would like, was raised on the set, being like her mother's assistant. And the daughter thought her full name for several years was um maria

Speaker 1 maria like daughter of daughter of of

Speaker 1 what marlena dietrich like she didn't know she even had a last name she thought her last name was like daughter and assistant to marlena dietrich or something like that she was i mean she

Speaker 1 she had like no friends she was not allowed to have friends at i mean it goes on and on the oh bit for her that was in the new york times is astounding and i guess she wrote a big novel about this experience in the 90s about how, what a monster Marlena Dietrich was.

Speaker 1 And it is wild. So that's why when Angel's like, as a mother, I would expect more from you.
It's like, don't,

Speaker 1 some mothers are not going to be so nice. Okay.
You might have Marlene. This might be a Marlena Dietrich situation.

Speaker 1 Oh, God. So now we're against chores.

Speaker 1 I mean, R.I.P. complaining, Jane.
No, just kidding.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's crazy. I didn't know.

Speaker 1 All I know about Marlena Dietrich is that she said, I want to be alone. That's actually Greta Garfield.

Speaker 1 Because I thought that too, but it's actually Greta Garfield. And I don't know shit about Marlena Dietrich then.
Yeah, it's wild. It's like the stories.
She's basically,

Speaker 1 she would make a great real housewife. She basically would steal her daughter's thunder all the time, constantly like calling her up, constantly making her

Speaker 1 do crazy things. And she had, she would always, I mean, she was just like having sex with men every single night.
And

Speaker 1 like the daughter would just have to like deal with all these guys coming in the house. It's wild.
It's great.

Speaker 1 God forbid your mother has a life.

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Speaker 1 so giselle so she basically puts it to giselle and i thought this was a good way to put it she's like you know i give myself to my children and you know i was a red carpet host before children and part of my currency was my appearance and so to you you making fun of my appearance that was very mean and she's like oh oh oh oh oh whoa whoa whoa i i get it because i remember being in your shoes just having kids back to back all of that and i remember it like it was yesterday and i get it i get it and i would show up to everything that those kids did with my normal face that you see here and whenever i was in a picture with them maybe i was crying on the inside but on the outside i had this face that you see right here and recognized i was just so i get it i was just asking you questions because you're a beautiful woman and i wasn't seeing that beautiful woman that i'm looking at Okay, Giselle, now you're, now this is bullshit.

Speaker 1 You were not trying to like uncork her, her beauty. You were being messy.
You were like, you put a different fit. You were trying to call her out for bullshit, for her bullshit.

Speaker 1 You were not trying to empower her beauty. Yeah, she was being a dick.
And so she's like, you know,

Speaker 1 I just think you're so gorgeous. I was trying to help you because I don't see that on social media.
I see somebody else. So again, I apologize.
And you're looking at me sideways like, fuck you, ho.

Speaker 1 I get it, but I am sorry. And she's like, well, thanks for apologizing.
I'm glad you came here and apologized. And she goes, can I give you a hug? And she's like, no, I'm okay right now.

Speaker 1 We didn't give hugs on the red carpet. So

Speaker 1 I'm not giving them to you now. Please leave my villa.
Please.

Speaker 1 This Instagram nonsense has put me into bed. I will not take off my sunglasses.
I will not recover from this. She says I was like, okay, but I am very sorry.
Please, just go.

Speaker 1 I've been told I look like a sinner.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right. All right.
Reel it in a little. Angel's like, this conversation is so shallow and unnecessary.
And at the end of the day, you get no filters. Nothing for nothing.

Speaker 1 How I look doesn't affect anybody but me. And my husband likes it.
So that's all that matters. And I have a husband.
I'm like, okay, okay. Yeah.
Let's. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 We know. You talk about it every two seconds.
And I'm glad that that gives you something to fight with. I'm glad you can wield your husband as a weapon filter.
Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So Giselle's like, well, do you want to walk over to breakfast? And she's like, I need a second. I'm like, oh, big mistake.
You're letting Giselle get there first to control the narrative, angel.

Speaker 1 Come on now. Be smarter.
Yeah. Amateur.

Speaker 1 So Giselle's like, okay, yeah, I'm not going to hug you. Okay.
Well, maybe I will hug you, but I'll tap your arms up. I'll tap your arms up.

Speaker 1 And she, Giselle's like, listen, you can't accuse me of body shaming her because the picture I was referring to was just her face. Okay.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 face shaming. It's much better.
You can't get me on this one, guys. She's like, you know, like, save your tweets.
Save your tweets, bitches.

Speaker 1 One minute, the girl wants to hug me and the next minute she doesn't. And like, just give me the same energy.

Speaker 1 And because we see also

Speaker 1 that last night, yeah, we see last night and they made up. You know, she called her out for the catfish comment.
They made up. They hugged.
They had a great time. Everyone's like, we love you, Angel.

Speaker 1 And they wake up and Angel's like, now I'm really mad. Did I have time to think about it? And now I'm really upset about it.
Yeah, honestly, Angel, like, no, expired. It's expired.

Speaker 1 It's done and it's expired. And you're giving way too much energy to the, and you're the one who did the crazy filters on your face.
Sorry, you did.

Speaker 1 So Giselle leaves and then Angel's like, oh, these bitches. So they all go to the pool.
And Giselle joins the ladies. She's like, I'm Captain Save the Hose.
So we're going to save the whole day. Yeah.

Speaker 1 First, I'm going to feed y'all and then we're going on excursions.

Speaker 1 But Ashley declares that she wants to talk with Kay for a minute. She's going to have a scene with Kay off to the side.
So that's kind of funny.

Speaker 1 You're like watching them be like, okay, I'll do a scene with you and we're going to do a scene over here. You guys talk over there and we'll talk about you over here.
Okay, have fun. Fight later.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Ashley's like, okay, I'm going to try and help you again by giving you another scene to shine.
Okay, are you ready? Let's talk about Angel. Angel was so upset.
And

Speaker 1 Giselle says she went over and talked to her and stuff. And Stacey's like, whoa, can you guys tell us what you were talking about? What happened?

Speaker 1 Were you talking about earrings and how they're better when they're long and dangly and that everybody loves them like that? How can you not? Am I right? So long, so shiny, so swingy, so tangly.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 okay, well, why don't y'all? Okay, so I'm, so she basically, Wendy joins, and now we cut over to Ashley and Kierna before Giselle can tell everyone about what happened.

Speaker 1 And Ashley's like, you look really good, okay. She's like,

Speaker 1 your body's banging. Well, okay, like, I do what I can, okay? That's my intent.
Okay, so how are you, babe? Well, I'm not going to lie. I was like very upsetting yesterday with Angel.

Speaker 1 Like making incensive jokes is like not getting to know each other. And that's why I like did not want to re-engage for the after party.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 So you're upset with how they treated Angel. So your response was to just abandon Angel? I don't understand that at all.
Just leave Angel alone with the vultures. Yeah, great move.

Speaker 1 And now she's like, okay, that's fair, babe. That's fair.
Yeah. And you know, the Wendy of it all, too.
I mean, it bothers me. We're having this disconnect.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, to have Jazzy add to the disconnect. You're having a disconnect because you accused Wendy of being a bad friend for no reason,

Speaker 1 for not waving to you from a stage. I know.
That's why you're having the disconnect.

Speaker 1 Because you're coming from, and then you're having another disconnect because you're accusing Wendy of trying to steal your preakness party and all of this other shit. You are starting the disconnect.

Speaker 1 You are disconnecting. Yeah.
And then don't forget there was Wendy who said, oh, did you do your own makeup? And then there's also Wendy

Speaker 1 who didn't acknowledge Kierna's presence quickly enough when Kierna sat down in the middle of Wendy's conversation with Giselle. Like all these things Kierna has basically gotten into her head about.

Speaker 1 And then the Jassy thing, I barely even remember what the Jassy thing was, but I just know that when Jassy showed up, Kirna was giving her stink eye at the preakness.

Speaker 1 So like these are all kind of on Kierna's side. And then she's acting like she's, you know, on the receiving end of a whole bunch of bullshit that she started.

Speaker 1 So then the other group, Tia's like, so is Asia going to come for breakfast with us? Because if she doesn't,

Speaker 1 I may go back to my room because there's some sort of Rachel Madow appearance on today's show this morning. She's like, no, she's going to come, but a little bit later.

Speaker 1 And Stacey's like, well, I just thought it was rude that we were all celebrating Wendy and Kay wasn't there. Wasn't that a...

Speaker 1 terrible thing wasn't that so rude right wendy do you want to get upset about that i'll i'll start the ball rolling on that one.

Speaker 1 Well, what I'm willing is Kay continues to show herself to have not have really ever been my friend. Her slip is showing.
Her slip is showing.

Speaker 1 So now Angel comes over and Kirina calls her sour patch kid.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 then they go back with the other girls. So Ashley's asking Angel how she is and Angel's still moping.
She's like, I'm fine. I'm fine.

Speaker 1 I've had a very, very serious discussion about Facebook builders today.

Speaker 1 And Karen is like, well, Giselle did say that she apologized. She goes, she did.
And I appreciate the apology. And I'll leave it at that.

Speaker 1 Oh, for Christ's sake, ladies' real housewives. If this is going to crumble, you just go home.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I'll leave it at that as if like it was a really deep and difficult conversation that we're not going to reopen. Like,

Speaker 1 okay, like, I'm sorry, you're being way too dramatic about this stupid fight.

Speaker 1 And so Ashley's like, and you checked in with everybody today because you know you have to do that that after you have a fight, you know, to make sure that you're good with everyone, otherwise, they'll talk about you.

Speaker 1 And she's like, Well, Bobby was ready to hop on a jet, let me tell you, he was going to charter one because he doesn't play about me.

Speaker 1 And we flash back to Bobby being like, Um, Giselle's almost six years old, and she's talking about this. I said, Photoshop, yeah, let's dive into some pictures of her past.

Speaker 1 Like, she's like, Yeah,

Speaker 1 like, that's fine, that's a perfectly fine. I wouldn't because she looks like a supermodel in every single one, so

Speaker 1 I wouldn't do that. Maybe holy whores, you know, like

Speaker 1 scandals or something like that. Although he's doing really well.
He just, he just said, he just gave, I don't know if he gave back or he got rid of some something.

Speaker 1 There were like a million dollars in donations to the church. And he's like, don't give these to us.
Give these to the people who need their snap benefits. Oh, good for Jamal.
So is mice.

Speaker 1 Good for Jamal. Yeah, he's getting a lot of good.
He's doing a lot of good things these days. So

Speaker 1 we come back to the present and Giselle's like, well, I sat down with Angel and she just, the tears, the tears were rolling down her face.

Speaker 1 They were rolling down her face.

Speaker 1 And she's like, guys,

Speaker 1 it's like, I'm starting to catch up here because she took charge and turned it around. And I thought we had nipped this in the bud.
Someone, please keep up.

Speaker 1 Could someone please tell Angel over there to keep up? I really like saying that to people.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and she's like, I don't understand how we haven't moved on and we're just staying in it.

Speaker 1 And Wendy's like, well, it seems like there's a persistent dark cloud with the same two people. I just don't feel like it's our job to continuously coddle people.
And just I was like, no, it's not.

Speaker 1 And Wendy's like, yeah, because we're here to have a good time. Okay, but then Wendy's going to immediately start shit too.

Speaker 1 So they are. It's like all these people mad all the time.
And then Wendy's like, so Kierna. Like in the next scene.
Well, being mad is different than being sulky in a dark cloud, I think on this show.

Speaker 1 Like mad is fine. That's like just part of like the love language on Real Housewives.
But if someone's like moping and being like, why me?

Speaker 1 And they're like, they're making bad television, that's when they get really insulted.

Speaker 1 Well, that's true. Yeah.
Okay. Good point.
So she says,

Speaker 1 you know, she hopes the Angel can turn it around because right now it's giving the sad sisters duo and it is because they are both moping around. They're both being huge victims about everything.

Speaker 1 And it's

Speaker 1 at post-production. Dish rag.
It's total dish rag.

Speaker 1 it's like the it's like the worst dish rag it's like it's like because you know we all have different dish rags and there's always one that's like the worst and she's like the worst and and you know what ones are the worst and i'm so sick of these fucking dish rags the water resistant dish rags why would you make those i don't understand them

Speaker 1 i don't why would you make those they're they're just a quality they're a quality of dish i'm sure you've had them that don't really sop up any water they just move everything around on the those are more like they make me crazy those are the cheap tourist shit hard to get a

Speaker 1 what is that it's like cheap tourist shit where it's really just kind of like a fun image but there's actually no ply so it can't actually absorb the water yeah

Speaker 1 oh i hate them and i always buy them on accident because they're so cute that's like all the cute towels yeah like that that's like whatever happened to cotton let me tell you something if someone gives you a tea towel that says something like

Speaker 1 i don't know like i got a a pun about the kitchen like what's the one with the bree like brie

Speaker 1 have a

Speaker 1 i life is a breeze as like spelled brie but with a z e or something like that it's not going to soak it's not going to stop up anything you don't need if there's a slogan on your on your dish towel it's not going to do shit you need it to be a very simple pattern and you know it's going to like do the it's going to it's going to do the work like those red and white williams sonoma ones are those are those are major there's a reason why they show up on below deck and believe me i try

Speaker 1 because they're mage um yeah my niece always gets me dish towels like that's her thing one of my nieces always gets me one and they're like like, it's my kitchen, bitch.

Speaker 1 And like, I'm trying to think of it as a dude. She gets me like a lot of sassy, gay, you know,

Speaker 1 sassy, gay dish towels. And so I have to always put them out when I have people over.
And people are like, what are these dish towels? It's like, I like butts. I like guy butts.

Speaker 1 You know, like, okay, we can calm down on the gay pride, the gay pride dish towels. We don't need those.

Speaker 1 But I want to say what's so funny is post-production is so shady to Kierna because literally every scene this entire episode, when all the women are having fun, they keep on cutting to Kirna with like a shitty look on her face.

Speaker 1 Like, yeah,

Speaker 1 they are really emphasizing that she is a dark cloud. And it's, it's, it's hilarious.
I love when post-production adds just subtle little nods that are not, they're not highlighted.

Speaker 1 They don't spend a lot of time and they just flash by, but it's like, we see you, post-department, and we know what you're doing, and it's great.

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