#2769 RHOBH S1416: Catamaran Got Your Tongue

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Speaker 1 Hello and welcome to Watch What Crap Ends, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today,

Speaker 1 Mr. Ronnie Carom.
Hi, Ronnie. How are you? Hi.

Speaker 1 Good to see you, as usual.

Speaker 1 Good to see you. What's going on with you?

Speaker 1 Well, you know, today is a big day because we're talking about Real House House of Beverly Hills. People on Twitter are

Speaker 1 really worked up as they should be because it was a really episode. What are they worked up about? They're angry at Erica.

Speaker 1 And it's a very, people are really angry at Erica for saying that Garcell peaked.

Speaker 1 And they're also, they find that Erica is really hypocritical for attacking Sutton and saying that Sutton attacks women when they're at their lowest moment.

Speaker 1 When they say, what about you, Erica, you know, going after Lisa Vanderpump when she just lost her brother and being part of that and bullying like Lisa and Denise off the show.

Speaker 1 Come and Erica, you came in as Yolanda's friend and then you joined the Fox Force 5 to get her off the show. Like people were really pulling up everything.
Ooh, I love it. Yeah,

Speaker 1 a lot of feelings, people attacking Darit for being inauthentic.

Speaker 1 It was hilarious. It's great.
So great work, everyone, on Twitter.

Speaker 1 In the meantime, though, before we get into our Beverly Hills recap, we are hitting the road again this weekend. Our tour, the Mounting Hysteria Tour, continues to power on.

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Speaker 1 And then over in Atlanta, we're going to do a classic episode, one of... our favorite episodes, which is going to be Real Households of Orange County, Season 11, Episode 16, Bringing Up Old Ghosts.

Speaker 1 That is part of their Ireland trip. And if memory is correct, now I haven't re-watched it, but this is, I believe, where they get Kelly drunk.

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Speaker 1 So here we go Real Housewives of Beverly Hills season 14 episode 16 Sutton on trial at sea.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so we're here. We're back in St.
Lucia at the Wind Jammer landing resort and Kathy and Kyle are getting ready and Kathy's like, well, hey, Kyle, do you ever put anything on your lips?

Speaker 1 And Kyle's like, Kathy, you're putting blush on. She's like, no, I know.
It just gives it a little, you know, it just makes your lips look more like cheeks, you know?

Speaker 1 I just want to have a nice cheek face. And she's like, yeah, but it's going to make your lips dry.
Oh,

Speaker 1 oh, I guess that makes sense. I guess that's why my lips are always dry.
Of all the crap Kathy Hilton puts out of her bag, and she's still putting blush on her lips. Like,

Speaker 1 why?

Speaker 1 So then we go to Jennifer, Garcelle and Sutton, and they're getting ready. And, you know, Jennifer's like, this is what I'm going to wear tonight.
And Sutton's like, I'm wearing vodka.

Speaker 1 Isn't that hilarious? Vodka's my favorite color. Actually, red's my favorite color.
Red vodka. I love vodka.
Please, nobody call me an alcoholic.

Speaker 1 Very offensive. I can't love vodka.

Speaker 1 I mean, really.

Speaker 1 Now, how dare you insinuate that all I do is drink vodka. Anyway, tonight I will be wearing an evening gown made entirely of distilled vodka that has been just.
turned into wood.

Speaker 1 I don't know what I'm talking about because I'm drunk on vodka. I love vodka.
And Bose is telling Nico in her room, she's like, I have intentions, right, for the trip.

Speaker 1 I want it to feel like a girls' trip where everybody gets along and it's kumbaya and we enjoy each other. And Nico's like, girl, what kind of girls' trips do you go on?

Speaker 1 My girls' trips are never like that.

Speaker 1 And I love Nico the gay being like, no, this is not how girls' trips works because I'm the gay on many girls' trips. And yeah, it's never useful.

Speaker 1 I'm still traumatized from a couple of girls' trips to this day. Quiet.
It happened like decade ago.

Speaker 1 Yeah, quiet, Nico. Get back to bedazzling some seashells.
So then we have Erica who is standing by the edge of the pool.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 everyone's doing like photos. This is because, of course, they are.
They're all like, well, I put on the socks, so it's time to do a photo shoot.

Speaker 1 So they're all taking photos for their Instagram and everything.

Speaker 1 And Bose is like, okay, well,

Speaker 1 everyone gather in my suite. So they all go to her place.
And Kyle

Speaker 1 and Garcel

Speaker 1 wind up wearing the same outfit. Yeah.
And she's like, well, I did call Kyle's style hideous in the past. So I guess this is my karma.
Now I'm eating those words because we're twinning.

Speaker 1 She's come a long way.

Speaker 1 And then they do like a little runway moment where Kyle goes stomping around the living room and Garcelle, of course, is a model and knows how to do it. So that was fun.
And then they hug.

Speaker 1 Now it's time for dinner. So they're ordering and Kyle's like, I'll have this, but but I don't want the mashed potatoes.
And they're like, wait, please, hang on, Missy.

Speaker 1 No one said that should be illegal. Says, hold the mashed potatoes.
And this is why I can never get behind Kyle. She says shit like that.
Just stupid, ignorant shit.

Speaker 1 You know, why is everybody else getting canceled and kicked off shows when Kyle can get away with saying something so fucking hateful?

Speaker 1 Hold the mashed potatoes. Fuck off.
Hold on the mashed potatoes. I'm never buying another caftan again.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 yeah, everyone's like, well, we'll have the mashed potatoes, please. So then we have Doreet who's like, so everyone, how is your villa compared to ours? And Jennifer's like, oh, it is gorgeous.

Speaker 1 Like, it's just like yours. Yes, it's just wonderful.
And Bose is like, wait, okay, I have a question. I have a question.
Can we discuss the outdoor shower, though?

Speaker 1 You said that you will not use an outdoor shower. Okay, she says, Dorit says, I don't really like outdoor showers.
And she's like, well, no, but I'll do them occasionally.

Speaker 1 I mean, even with my husband, I'm like, I don't walk around naked. Or rather, it's more like I don't want him to go to the outdoor shower.
And then I'm sitting there watching that.

Speaker 1 The problem with walking around naked, when you're with someone like Piki, is that he thinks he can be naked too. So I'd just rather, I sleep in long drums.
Right? Sleep in long drums.

Speaker 1 Woo. Well, she doesn't like getting naked in front of her own husband.
I can't imagine being in a relationship where I'm holding anything back. Then might I also add,

Speaker 1 I mean, there's this whole point of intimacy. That's the whole point of intimacy.
I could be naked physically, naked emotionally, naked, naked, naked in front of Killy. And Killy is naked too.

Speaker 1 We're all naked and we're drinking naked juice. And I guess what? The reason why we're doing that is because I invented nakedness.

Speaker 1 And furthermore,

Speaker 1 yeah, I guess that's why I'm not in a relationship, among other things, because I'm not doing any of that. Any of what she just said, I was like, yeah, that makes a lot of sense with my own life.

Speaker 1 I'm not getting naked. I'm not getting naked alone.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to get naked emotionally. I'm not going to get naked in any way.
Put a jacket on. That's what I say.
Put a hoodie over your emotions. Nobody needs that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So Jennifer is like, well, it's actually very funny. I had a scene in Broadway where I stood up in a bathtub and I was a frontal nude.

Speaker 1 And they're like, what? And we see that she was in the woman, which I didn't even realize. The women.

Speaker 1 The women. She was great.
I actually saw it. I wanted to see it when I lived there.
It was playing when I lived there. I mean, it was a long time ago, but I couldn't get into it.

Speaker 1 Well, I I couldn't afford to go see it. But they ended up doing a great performances taping of it.
And it is so, so good. I loved it.
And the lady from Third Rock from the Sun is in it.

Speaker 1 She was great on that. I can't remember anyone's name.
Lizzie Johnson. Yes.
She was in it. And

Speaker 1 Dirantha from Sex in the City was in it. I mean, it was incredible.
The entire cast was amazing. But Jennifer Tilly was Crystal, the bad girl who stole the husband.

Speaker 1 And so, yeah, I guess she had a scene in a bathtub.

Speaker 1 And she was like, I had an English boyfriend at the time and you know how the English are You know, he said but you're gonna be naked and I said no, I'm wearing bubbles So I stood up in the bubble bath and the bubbles slid off of me and he said but the bubbles fell English people are hilarious

Speaker 1 Well, then I realized he had actually never seen me standing up and so walking around naked before he had never seen it because I would go into the bathroom and we had a very good sex life and we just lay down and arrange myself in a very attractive position and like turn the lights down low and then I'd be like I'm ready

Speaker 1 yes I realized that I Kathleen Turner wasn't that famous like as Kathleen Turner originated that role in London right and everyone was like oh my god Kathleen Turner was did full frontal on stage was this the same show no I don't think so oh okay

Speaker 1 the women

Speaker 1 spreading misinformation about Kathleen Turner because why not it's it's Wednesday What's your lie about her?

Speaker 1 I don't think so, but I mean, I have no idea.

Speaker 1 She's like, I used to wake up at five in the morning and put on makeup and go brush my teeth. So you would wake up thinking I'm perfect.
See, I just don't agree with any of the ladies today.

Speaker 1 I say just wake up as nasty as possible. And if they can take that, they can take anything.

Speaker 1 you know i put like my original pictures i don't like put any airbrushed pictures on dating sites or anything like that. It's me just looking old and smelly, you know?

Speaker 1 And then if you can take that, we can go on at least more than one date. Exactly.
So

Speaker 1 you got to lead with honesty. You got to be open and honest.
You know, it's called the Kyle Richards method of dating.

Speaker 1 So it's like when people ask you how old you are, you should always say a little bit older because then they're like, oh my God, you don't look that old. And then you can feel good about it, you know?

Speaker 1 Right. That's like from 30.
Remember on 30 Rock where Jenna was telling everyone that she's just turned 60. So that way everyone would say, wow, they're amazing for 60.
There you go. Say, thank you.

Speaker 1 Thank you. I am 62 here.

Speaker 1 So, Kyle,

Speaker 1 Kyle has something really important to say. There's just something about this tropical air that feels so good, doesn't it? Well, thanks, Kyle.
Thanks for that, that amazing insight on tropical air.

Speaker 1 So I was like, well, those are those negative ions I'm always trying to tell you about. And you wouldn't listen to me.
But now that you're here, get negative ions. Now they're acceptable.

Speaker 1 Well, I see how you are. She's like, well, Sutton, that positive attitude.

Speaker 1 So now Sutton's like rubbing her shoulder against Kyle because she's just besties with Kyle. And we see another example of how just desperate Sutton is to be liked by people she considers popular.

Speaker 1 And it's so sad, but also so funny. It's like she got somewhat tacit approval from her mother this season.
And so now she's moving on to her next biggest goal, Kyle Richards. Yeah, seriously.

Speaker 1 So Garcelle's, of course, watching this, like, hmm, no.

Speaker 1 So Dorit's like, by the way, in all seriousness, Sutton, you know, I have thought about it a lot, and I have felt in the last few months that you've been, in particular, very mean-spirited to me.

Speaker 1 I kept thinking to myself, gee, a lot of little jabs coming my way. Gee, gee, gee.

Speaker 1 It's like, like, I've wanted. Look how hard I've tried.
I've just tried so hard to come back to a good place with you, Sutton.

Speaker 1 But, you know, I put my heart on the table. And she's like, well, I think that we have both had times where we have failed each other.
So let's just go with the, we both are terrible.

Speaker 1 And let's just stay with that. How do you feel about that? Darique.
Sutton's already like starting to boil over. Her satanic eyes are like starting to come out.

Speaker 1 She's like, we're not going to put this all on me just because I started this feud because I got angry because you whispered something at one point at dinner,

Speaker 1 even though we were supposed to be pretending to be a sisterhood.

Speaker 1 So she's like, but wasn't the feud when she made that, when doreet made the alcoholic or the of course there's alcohol in that drink comment

Speaker 1 that was the latest iteration of it but it all started the things went sour between them in oceanside when like they were sitting at that restaurant and there was some comment about i forgot it was there was dereet muttered something and then

Speaker 1 sudden did the whole thing okay everyone we're gonna tie our hands together with a ribbon and we're sisterhood and then that night she was like you know it really bothered me that she said something under her breath i mean we are supposed to be a sister you're supposed to say out front and then on the sprinter van she was like you said thing something under your breath and we're supposed to be a sister that was sneaky and then they started fighting and then they have been at each other's throats all season as a result of that okay i thought it was alcoholic thing that was just the latest manifestation yeah

Speaker 1 so she's like you're the one who wanted this group to have any tension and then it just 48 hours and it's out the window and then we see flashback to two months earlier uh when darique wouldn't admit to being teddy's friend i love that we're trying trying to remember.

Speaker 1 It's in the notes. Darique admitted.

Speaker 1 She won't admit to being Teddy's friend.

Speaker 1 And so Dorit's like, well, you know, a lot of it was, we're going to have arguments, but we should be able to talk it out. Am I right, Sutton? Am I right?

Speaker 1 That's right. It's like, but any attempt to converse or to have a conversation with you is rejected.
Rather than trying to work it out, you want to go lower.

Speaker 1 You want to, you're like PK reaching into a can of Pringles. You just want to go lower and deeper and deeper and sadder.
Okay. And now you want to have an issue.

Speaker 1 Well, in the moment, Satin meant that she wanted to have a sisterhood. That's what I feel.

Speaker 1 She just doesn't really understand what that means. And Kyle's like, yeah, I mean, she meant it.
She meant it when she said it. So that's something.
And we see later that

Speaker 1 Satin turned to her and was like, thank you. Thank you so much for saying that, Kyle.
Thank you. I know.
Kyle says one sentence.

Speaker 1 One sentence, because also Kyle, Kyle and Kyle and Dorit are, it seems like they're good now, but they're still not great. So Kyle will still pile on.

Speaker 1 So Sutton's like, I brought it to the group because I thought it was important. It's like, yeah, but I think she means that what she says every time.

Speaker 1 And so that's, so that's where it gets confusing because it's like, okay, well, sometimes if you mean what you say, and sometimes it feels sincere, and sometimes it's very earnest.

Speaker 1 And she's like, I was sincere. Oh, yeah, hold on.
Let me finish. Let me finish.
Hold on, my hat's flopping all over the place. I love the Erica's hat.
She's like, let me finish. Let me finish finish.

Speaker 1 Let me finish.

Speaker 1 And she says,

Speaker 1 and then sometimes it turns and something's like, okay, well,

Speaker 1 shall I place my hand on a Bible?

Speaker 1 Shut up. Because you know what? We are not doing this.
I'm not going to do this again. You are not going to beat me with a stick.

Speaker 1 She gets so

Speaker 1 over the top. Just calm down, lady.
Your head's going to pop off.

Speaker 1 Nobody's been you the stick. We're just going to bring up the same thing over and over again until you submit.
She goes,

Speaker 1 Well, I will not do that. And Kathy's like, well, we're just having a discussion.
I don't know what we're talking about, though. I haven't been paying attention.

Speaker 1 So Doreet is like, every time there's a chance to take accountability, you cannot just make yourself a victim. You know, say,

Speaker 1 I'm an adult. I take accountability whenever I make a mistake.

Speaker 1 Which is, should we just roll all the scenes of Dorit, Garcelle having to explain to Doreet why the things she has said in the past have been either problematic or

Speaker 1 sound like they have a tin ear or whatever, and her just saying you know refusing to hear anything garcel has to say at any restaurant yeah i take accountability every time i make a mistake for example the time i said that i'm very close to minorities who happen to work for me how i said yes they do work for me is that so bad that's taking a kunabullity

Speaker 1 I mean, is it so wrong that I said that Garcelle attacked me when she raised her voice 0.3 decibels? I don't think so. It was an attack.

Speaker 1 And of course, Garcel's like, well, as Jennifer Tilley would say,

Speaker 1 Dariet's taking accountability for two minutes. I mean, come on.
Now all of a sudden she's an accountability guru. Please.

Speaker 1 She's like, well, there has been no point where you have tried to rectify any of our little mishops.

Speaker 1 You know what, Dariette, I have been thinking about this long and hard.

Speaker 1 And what I want to say is that I'm not wearing vodka tonight. I'm actually wearing more whiskey.
But anyway, well, I don't know what you just said. But we're

Speaker 1 like, here's what I've got to add to that. Okay, I said something at the caviar party and I did not feel like myself at all when I said that.

Speaker 1 And we see the flashback is when she said, like, you know, basically like you're poor.

Speaker 1 And sentence like, and I sincerely apologize to you because what I should have said is you are very poor, not just regular poor. And I really did not lean in enough to how low in society you are.

Speaker 1 And I apologize for that. I learned lessons as a little girl that I should have brought to this.
You don't speak to poor people. You have security, escort them out.

Speaker 1 And so I apologize for speaking directly to you. I know that must have hurt.
That's true.

Speaker 1 I apologize for filling you with hope when I looked you in the eyes, that I gave you the feeling that maybe rich people would also look at you in the eyes. But no, no, we don't.
We don't do that.

Speaker 1 And I should never have given you that sense of aspiration. And the fact that we sat at that caviar party together and i purposely wore a loss prevention jacket across from you

Speaker 1 that wasn't right

Speaker 1 that wasn't right i mean let's face it this is california i can't really get you arrested anyway so it wasn't right of me to do that

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Speaker 1 I sincerely apologize. And Erica's like, yeah, it was, you know, it was just beneath you.
It was beneath you. Oh, come on.
You're on a real house.

Speaker 1 Like, honestly, I feel like it was so, this thing that she said was so, like, of all the things that could be said on a real house. I've show, for someone to say, like, what was it?

Speaker 1 Like, like, go talk to someone with a wallet that fits or whatever, whatever that, whatever the phrase was. Yeah, go talk to someone.
Could be had to any other show on Bravo. Yeah, this is.

Speaker 1 You think you're better? You think you're a, you think you're better than her? My wallet is. Whatever.

Speaker 1 I mean, I think that was pretty shitty, but it's really funny how Sutton tries to apologize because right after that, we see,

Speaker 1 we saw the confessional where Sutton's like, I don't regret saying that, not one single second. I wish I said it more.
I wish I said, I wish I came up with rhymes for poor, that little idiot.

Speaker 1 I wish that I had the server walk up to her and say, I'm sorry, ma'am, we don't accept WIC cards here.

Speaker 1 That would have been good.

Speaker 1 Oh, goodness. So

Speaker 1 Dreet's like, I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 And I think that if you had at any point, maybe had said that at some point, if you really felt sorry if you didn't have to wait this long to have a pride out of you and she's like well I'm doing it now well you're very passive aggressive about it well Dore I'm saying and Rose like

Speaker 1 She's actually trying to apologize to Reet

Speaker 1 like Dariet listen she's this is Sutton this is the closest you're gonna get to a sincere apology from from Sutton and Sutton's like excuse me I mean and she's just telling us this but she's like if if she'd shut up she'd hear me apologize for calling her brokey okay

Speaker 1 brokey roberts

Speaker 1 uh

Speaker 1 i'm very sorry for what i said even though it was admittedly hilarious and everyone at caviar caspia laughed because we all knew it was true but anyway you did not need to be embarrassed by the cave or caspia people and what i said was low even though true but low and i shouldn't have said it into your face only behind your back but unfortunately sutton We've moved on to other things.

Speaker 1 She's like, oh, now there's a lot more you need to apologize for. So Boza is like, Dareit, you're not even taking any of it in.
It's an apology. Take it.
And she's like, Goist, Goise.

Speaker 1 I said, Thank you. I said, Thank you.
I appreciate it. But wait, there's more.

Speaker 1 Well, Dared is not going to think Sutton is genuine at this point, and I don't blame her. Sutton does a lot of things, apologizes for them.

Speaker 1 And then we as a group are left wondering which was true, the low blow or the apology. You just don't know.
It's a modern game. I mean, a magic mirror.

Speaker 1 I can't see which way is is right i'm like oh relax

Speaker 1 relax

Speaker 1 am i fat am i thin i don't know why my shape like an hourglass why is my face so big um erica yeah i don't know erica is not

Speaker 1 i'm sorry erica you're having a great season and i've really grown to enjoy you on this show but um you cannot be accusing garcel i mean uh son of saying things that you don't know what's true and what's not true when you had an entire season where you were like well it was snowing in pasadena so my son took his car out and well it turns out he was driving on a roller coaster, and he was in a roller coaster tycoon.

Speaker 1 It went up in the loop-de-loop. And then all of a sudden, Tom, he got into his car, and they crashed into each other on the roller coaster.
Tom went down the mountain.

Speaker 1 He spun around and he was lying in a ditch. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, agreed.

Speaker 1 So, but she's also like on the poor side. You know what I mean? So she's standing

Speaker 1 for the other poor. So she, and also when Sutton apologizes and you don't know what was real, the slam or the apology, can't both things be true?

Speaker 1 I mean, most hurtful things you say are meant, but then then you feel bad for saying them so you apologize it's just it's called being an adult okay yeah i'm sorry that she is so smart that she knows exactly what dorit's trigger is which is calling her poor okay which i guess you don't have to be that smart to figure that trigger out but still yeah you know well i think what made it actually really mean is that dorete is like she's really going through it and losing her house and stuff but i don't think that was happening at this time i think if she called her poor like right now when the house is being taken away and all that other stuff that's allegedly being happened that's allegedly going down and PK not paying any bills and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 That would be different. But, you know, it was when Dorit was still pretending to have money.
So, yeah. It didn't count.
Yeah. I mean, it was mean.
It was a mean thing to say.

Speaker 1 I keep on making excuses for it because it's like classic,

Speaker 1 you know, recapping house-wise when there's one that you like more than the others. And you'll be like, honestly, it was a compliment if you think about it.
No, it was horrible. It was horrible.

Speaker 1 It was a meaningful thing. It was a shitty, shitty thing to say.
It was a shitty thing to say. It was a good thing.
So not guilty.

Speaker 1 But also, like, I guess, you know, when we watch other shows, people say so things that are so much worse. I mean, it's like, find someone who's wallet fits compared to like, um,

Speaker 1 uh, you,

Speaker 1 your husband has one foot on a banana one foot in the grave and one foot on a banana peel and you sucked your way to the top. I mean, like, it gets a lot worse than this.

Speaker 1 Well, I also didn't think that it was so bad when Darit made fun of Garcia or made fun of Sutton's alcohol intake. So I don't think it's definitely not.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think I'm just this whole season, I'm like, meh, I mean, this is pretty mid as far as

Speaker 1 things to be mad about go. So I don't really care.
They're very sensitive.

Speaker 1 So, Bo's like, Dorit, I think the question is, is there anything that you feel accountable for that you could actually apologize to Sutton about?

Speaker 1 That's where we actually need to go since you just bragged about how you take accountability. And she's like, well, you know what? The joke about the drink that

Speaker 1 I made, you know, that wholeheartedly was not to start anything or to hurt you, you, but just to highlight to everyone in the group that you are something of an alcoholic, and that's in many ways very humorous.

Speaker 1 So that's all I was merely doing. It's like, oh, so we're calling, we're calling that a joke now.
It's like, well, the comment, the comment.

Speaker 1 Listen, it wasn't my intention to call you an alcoholic, especially when everybody can see that you're clearly a nilcohoolik.

Speaker 1 And probably, if you hadn't called me a bitch after I said that you were an alcoholic, I probably would have said, I'm so sorry, that wasn't my intention.

Speaker 1 But you called me a bitch, which meant that me calling you an alcoholic first in retrospect is actually allowed. So to be fair, it's not that you called me a bitch.

Speaker 1 It's that you called me a bitch in me.

Speaker 1 Indian.

Speaker 1 That was like the ultimate because Darik can't be offended. She's called everyone the C-word all season.
Like, how many times has she been like, what a effing C-word?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. She knows that.
Now she's like, how dare you speak to a woman like that?

Speaker 1 So Kathy's like, well, listen, we're here for another four days. All right.
You can't conquer Rome in a day. Which isn't the saying, you know, because the saying is you can't build Rome in a day.

Speaker 1 Because I'm pretty sure Rome burnt pretty fast. It didn't take very much long to it didn't take that much time to burn it to the ground.
It did take long to build. It did.
You can't build it in a day.

Speaker 1 So Bo's like, well, I appreciate the honesty and the candor. And I really think, like you said, Rome wasn't built in a day.
I'll subtly correct you.

Speaker 1 But hopefully some bricks are being laid because I do feel like we've made some progress in making one small building in an entire empire so uh yeah you know it only took you know it's a few thousand years for rome to get to where it was so uh that's a good sign for you two

Speaker 1 while we've got a break in the fighting um i just want to say that bose you know i really appreciate when you came to my house the other day and said that you liked me better than to read now and you apologized for ever going onto her side and becoming my best friend.

Speaker 1 So thank you. That meant a lot to me, Bose.
Everybody hear that? Everybody hear that?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, Bose is kind of like my best friend now. So I just want to announce that to the table.
Like, I'm friends with her now, too. So, I guess that makes me pretty cool.

Speaker 1 Well, from that moment, I said, Look, whatever I can do to help Kyle, I'll do it. Did you get my note about never bangs again? Good.

Speaker 1 And God answered my prayer when I went to Soho House, and sitting across from me, not even an arm's length away,

Speaker 1 was John Taturo

Speaker 1 making out

Speaker 1 with a homely, homely lady.

Speaker 1 And I thought, oh my goodness, he's making out with his sister. But then it turns out it was not even Aida.
It was a different person entirely.

Speaker 1 It wasn't until I said, I love that show when you had to deal with Toe Jam. That was a good drama on HBO.
Did you ever see that?

Speaker 1 The night his character had like crippling foot disease, like crippling athlete's foot or something. And it was just him picking at his toe jam with a pencil for eight episodes.

Speaker 1 I mean, that was a decent show, but God, I will never forget that or forgive John Troturo.

Speaker 1 So as I sat there at the Soho house enjoying some very okay food, I was looking at Mauricio making out with a girl, and I said, never again. I will text Kyle Richards right now.
So

Speaker 1 she texts me.

Speaker 1 I don't know why this made me laugh, but she goes, there's Mo with his girl. And Kathy went, a female.

Speaker 1 A female. And she went, a girl.
And Garcel says, a woman with a woman. okay.
Let's all decide how

Speaker 1 we're going to refer to women. All right.

Speaker 1 Kyle is ready to call her a little fucking bitch slut.

Speaker 1 A prostitute. It was a girl.
One of, one of the girls.

Speaker 1 So Garcel's like, well, Greece, Namalbu, I mean, who knows where else? Doesn't sound like a random girl. Sounds like it's his girl.
And if you were to say it's just some stranger, I would say

Speaker 1 no.

Speaker 1 And then I texted Kyle and I said, girl. And then afterwards, I gave her the full report.
And Kyle's like, yeah, three and a half minute long voice. No.
Oh, God.

Speaker 1 I haven't gotten one of those since Jamie Lee Curtis actually forgot to press end when she was leaving me a voicemail. God, that was, that got ugly.

Speaker 1 It technically wasn't a voicemail.

Speaker 1 She was actually trying to call her husband and then she dialed me by accident because honestly, I got into her phone and I put my number under Christopher Guest's contact.

Speaker 1 But like, whatever, it's still fun. It's still fun.
We laughed about it afterwards. And I laughed.
I mean, I laughed by myself because I'm like, wow, Jamie Curtis knows me because I made her know me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so then we get to hear Buzz's voice now: Hey, babe, full report. She's not cute.

Speaker 1 I mean, look, if you're gonna go do it, like, get the cutest girl on the planet, right?

Speaker 1 No, actually, I was sitting there, they were there, I was dreaming of scenarios where I could push them in the water. So, let me know what you want me to do: kill him, I'll run up on a man.

Speaker 1 Let me know.

Speaker 1 You know what? That's That's being a girl's girl. I invented girls and I've been to being girls' girls.
Bloop. So then Kathy's like, that's a girlfriend right there.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 That's a female friend right there. That's a female friend.

Speaker 1 Well, we all have your back. We all want to fight for you.
So what?

Speaker 1 If I'm being completely honest, I feel that we tiptoe about scissoring Morgan. Can we get into that?

Speaker 1 How does that work?

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 What? Like,

Speaker 1 we had a pact not to mention her, she who shall not be named. And she looks totally shocked.
And Garcelle's like, well, we don't know what the situation is.

Speaker 1 And if we're being supported in a way, in that way, then we can back off, which is such a funny way to put it.

Speaker 1 Like, tell us more, because if she's giving you all the emotional support that you would get from a

Speaker 1 boyfriend or a spouse or a lover,

Speaker 1 then we'll know you're set and we're okay. But if you're not being supported by her, then that way we can go in on her as well.

Speaker 1 She's just as messy, but she's just putting it under the guise of like actual, like, I want to make sure you're okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, during this, generally, I agree with Garcelle in general that Kyle doesn't have the right to be like open and honest to everybody else, but then she won't talk.

Speaker 1 But it's also, she said five million times, she's not going to talk about it. Morgan refuses to be talked about on the show, this and that.
So I'm kind of like, why are we going back to this well?

Speaker 1 But then I saw on the after show,

Speaker 1 I just saw a clip that was posted. And Garcelle's like, listen, she's, it's everywhere.
It's on all the blogs. When we're shooting, it's literally everywhere.

Speaker 1 And Kyle flying everywhere with this girl. And then it has, like everyone else has to be open and honest, but she doesn't.
It's just fucking annoying. And then it cuts to Kyle in her own room.

Speaker 1 And Kyle's like, well, you know, like, she knows my situation and why I can't say it. And how come it's okay for Garcel? Like, her kid doesn't want to film and that's fine.

Speaker 1 She doesn't want to talk about that. And then her other son had stuff going on and she doesn't want to talk about that.
Those are her children.

Speaker 1 How are you even going to compare somebody requesting that their child, especially after one of them was bullied by you guys on

Speaker 1 national TV.

Speaker 1 How are you going to argue that that's even close to being the same thing? Give me a fucking break.

Speaker 1 Well, the thing is, is I think also Kyle has, there's an expectation that they all should rally around Kyle.

Speaker 1 And, you know, if they see Mauricio out in the wild, they're going to report back to her and they're going to, they're going to.

Speaker 1 support her and yada yada yada and it's like fuck this guy which in some ways they should because kyle is their castmate and ultimately they are friends with kyle first but i think that like there's an element that they have to really put themselves out for Kyle.

Speaker 1 And Garcell's like, honestly, I don't even like this woman. She's like, she's superficial.
She's fake. Everything is about her.
And

Speaker 1 you know what? I'm sick of like

Speaker 1 here I am on TV kind of like co-signing this

Speaker 1 group bashing of Mauricio. And but the truth is like we don't even know what's going on on Kyle's side.
And I'm kind of like sick of it. And so I want.

Speaker 1 I think it's time for Kyle to also, you know, if we're going to like rake some random girl over the Kohl's and start saying like, oh, she's, she's, she's not, this random person's not cute.

Speaker 1 She's a girl, you know, like, how about like Kyle, you talk, you know, you've got some stink on your side as well. So why don't we talk about that?

Speaker 1 And also Garcelle did talk about her son on the show quite a bit. So I'm surprised that Kyle talked about it.
I think a lot of that never happened.

Speaker 1 And then we get Erica backing up, of course, the party line, you know, the

Speaker 1 Kyle party. It's a sad party, but the Kyle Party line where she's like, well, Garcelle wants information about Kyle, but we know nothing about Garcelle.
I mean, who's Garcelle sleeping with?

Speaker 1 I know she had a roster back in the 90s. That was good.
And then we see Garcelle talking about how she's banged, you know, all these famous people. And then she goes, well, maybe she's Pete.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Look who's talking, lady.
The last person you bragged about was fucking Army Hammer before he got canceled for talking about wanting to eat people. Shut up, Erica.

Speaker 1 And what do we know about you? You still won't even, you're still pretending you're innocent in this whole thing. What about Marco Marco, lady? You're lucky nobody brings that up.

Speaker 1 So I don't want to hear it from Erica. Yeah, I know.
Like at least, um, at least Garcelle's roster in the 90s included like like Johnny Depp and, you know, all these people. And yours was Tom Girardi.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yours was old nuts on the ground, Tom Girardi, who fucked over like how many, how many victims. And then you helped fuck over Marco Marco.
So whatever, lady. Don't worry.

Speaker 1 Well, I liked Garcelle's, Garcel's response. And someone asked Garcel on Watch Happens Live.
Someone's like, what did you think about Erica saying that you peaked? And Garcelle just goes, fuck Erica.

Speaker 1 Fuck Erica.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, there is no situation, you know. I mean, you guys know everything.
I mean, sure, you saw me at a concert, but I had that on the books for like six months. So.

Speaker 1 And she says it like it was an appearance. She says, I literally had an appearance that I had on the books.
So

Speaker 1 you're booking appearances. Morgan is booking appearances of you in the wings at her shows.
No,

Speaker 1 yeah, I think that that doesn't, that doesn't seem right. And also, I just want to say one other thing about this piece.
Sorry to go back a little bit.

Speaker 1 This peaking, like, oh, Erica saying, well, maybe she peaked. Like, how sad is it that the definition for Erica of Garcell peaking is based off of who she slept with?

Speaker 1 Like, I would argue that Garcelle is ascendant, right? Like, this is, I think this is the most exposure. I mean, Garcel obviously was famous in the 90s.

Speaker 1 She was on the Jamie, and then she was in the Jamie Foxx show, late 90s, early 2000s. She's been around all these years.
She was coming to America back in the 80s, et cetera.

Speaker 1 Like, she's been with us all this time.

Speaker 1 But I would argue her being on the show is like her most high-profile gig that she's had, or like the one, the thing that has had her name on more people's mouths than ever before.

Speaker 1 And so, I would say she has not even reached her peak. So, but for Erica, it's like, well, who your fucking represents

Speaker 1 what your peak is. Like, there's actually something very sad and inherent in what was just a shady comment, yes, but it really is an extra revealing shady comment.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and she's got more going on than who she's fucking. I like that point.
And she's producing film after film, Erica. What are you doing?

Speaker 1 You're like speaking over garage band loops. Like, give me a fucking break.
Okay. And mooching tables off reunion sets for your fucking house remodel.
Give me a break.

Speaker 1 Oh, did you say that, by the way? Did I send you that Reddit thing?

Speaker 1 Reddit, let me tell you, if you ever have a mystery to solve, Reddit is who to give it to. Okay.
Someone posted, isn't this the same coffee table from the reunion set?

Speaker 1 And sure enough, Erica's new table in her remodeled home is from the reunion set. Wow.
She's just taking shit right off the set. So get out of here.
You're

Speaker 1 the manufacturing shit that you're mooching off reunion sets. Come on.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say good for you on that front. I'm going to say, you know what? You should take that.
Take that coffee table.

Speaker 1 But by the way, those garage band loops powered Erica to be all the way into the background, her song, all the way in the background of in a nora. So, you know,

Speaker 1 I will give flowers. Where the background of a, of a movie about a Russian or about a whore marrying a Russian billionaire is like the height of a compliment.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Well, maybe Anora Peaks. I don't know.

Speaker 1 It's like, wow, my song got played in the Strip Club on the Sopranos. Like, wow.

Speaker 1 It's huge. Honestly, if I heard any one of my stupid musical tracks that I made five years ago playing in the background of literally anything, I would be like issuing press releases.
I'd be so happy.

Speaker 1 Anyway, I'm not saying she shouldn't be happy. I'm just, you know,

Speaker 1 Erica, because she's like, she's shitting on everybody else's accomplishments. Yeah.
She's like,

Speaker 1 Kyle's like, whatever. That was an appearance.
It was on the books. And she goes, well, right, but that brings attention, right? And it's like, well, what am I supposed to do?

Speaker 1 I mean, going to the gas station brings me attention.

Speaker 1 You know, like, I can't even get granola out of the bin at the sprouts without getting attention it's everywhere i go the paparazzi are everywhere because you're calling them everywhere and i'm so glad that garcel just keeps her foot on her neck because she's like yes yeah does paparazzi really follow kyle richards everywhere i mean julia roberts can go to the grocery store but kyle can't please

Speaker 1 i know i can't even do my favorite hobby shopping because i can shop anywhere at gas station 7-eleven and the paparazzi are always there

Speaker 1 so um direet's like, Coyle's been in this town for a very long time, and she knows how things work. And if you want to avoid being seen with Morgan, you know how to do it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And so Kyle's like, well, like, maybe one day, like, I'll have a great story to share with you guys. Maybe.
And Kathy's like, maybe you won't. She goes, Okay, well, maybe I don't.

Speaker 1 Sounds like 54 years so far. Still haven't gotten a good story out of you, Kyle.
Still waiting. Yeah.
I have white parties.

Speaker 1 The guy from Fat Burger comes over and makes and makes stuff for people.

Speaker 1 So Garcelle Sutton goes, I hope you do, Kyle. I hope you have a great story to tell.
Now, let me nuzzle my chin against your shoulder a little bit. Just tell you, as your best friend,

Speaker 1 here's the kind of author I want to be. The kind of author that supports a friend writing a beautiful story about herself.

Speaker 1 Kyle, I hope you have a great story. And furthermore, I hope you dance.

Speaker 1 Were you just singing that song the other day on the show? Yes.

Speaker 1 Is that why that came to me? Yes.

Speaker 1 In the below deck record.

Speaker 1 Naturally, of course. Yes.
Of course. Where it fits in the best.

Speaker 1 So Garcelle's like, is it annoying that Sutton's infatuated with Kyle? Yes.

Speaker 1 But I needed her tonight. And she was so blinded by Kyle's light.
And they make a little twinkling sound. It's like, but she didn't have my back.
And, you know, part of this, I'm like, why is it,

Speaker 1 why does she have to help gang up on Kyle? This is ridiculous. And you've done it a million times.
Like, give it a rest.

Speaker 1 Like, it's, it is kind of getting old to me, the whole like hounding Kyle about the same shit over and over.

Speaker 1 But then I remembered, and they showed us clips of this later, that they actually had a discussion where they're like, we're going to get Kyle tonight about the lesbian thing, right?

Speaker 1 It's like, yeah, get her. And then once they do it, Sutton's just like, oh my God, Kyle, I'm so sorry.
She's being mean to you. You know, she has that kind of an attitude.
So I'd be pissed too.

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Speaker 1 I would be furious. I have childhood trauma around this topic because when I was in kindergarten,

Speaker 1 I was cast as a tree in the

Speaker 1 production of Snow White, in the kindergarten production of Snow White. And as a tree, I was part of an ensemble of trees.
And together, we created a forest.

Speaker 1 And when Snow White is banished from, you know, the castle, she has to go running running through the woods where she, you know, eventually finds famously the dwarves.

Speaker 1 And so as the trees, the direction that we were given as actors was that we could either be kind trees and say, run, Snow White, run, get to safety. Or we could be evil trees and go, whoa.

Speaker 1 Tell us about the lesbian relationship, Snow White.

Speaker 1 We could be very nosy trees and say, what's the deal with Morgan Wade? Am I right? You fucked Cinderella or not.

Speaker 1 I heard they found their slipper in your place.

Speaker 1 You could also be a bad jokey tree and say, is there vodka in that? Which was strange as a kindergartner to ask. You could be a really offended tree.
How dare you call me?

Speaker 1 Or you could be a gossipy tree. I just saw Mauricio with a girl and she's not cute.
Keep running, Snow White.

Speaker 1 Mauricio had his dick in an ugly tree. I'm telling you that.

Speaker 1 Right now, girl. Okay, so what kind of tree did you choose to be? So all the boys, of course, the boys were like, we'll all be evil trees.
Well, we'll be like,

Speaker 1 and all the girls are like, no, we want to be nice trees. We want to support Snow White.
I was like, okay, so boys are going to be mean, girls will be nice, you know, classic. So

Speaker 1 we all, that comes the big scene, and we all are lined up, right? Because we're trees. And I'm like the first tree, I think, like stage right.
And so Snow White comes running through.

Speaker 1 So I'm the first tree that Snow White encounters. So I go, whoa.

Speaker 1 And then every single other tree went, Run, Snow White, run, even the boys. So, all the Alma Evil tree.
I was a psychotic tree. Everyone was like, Oh, that poor kid lost it, forgot his line.

Speaker 1 I was like, I was like, No, we had an agreement to all be psychotic trees, but I was the only one. So, everyone was like a nice tree.

Speaker 1 And there's this one fucking strange tree that's literally trying to kill Snow White, and that was me. So, I understood Garcelle's pain when she stood up there like a psychotic tree and did them

Speaker 1 to Kyle. And sutton did not do her part and sutton said run snow white run to kyle i don't know all the other trees played by lisa vanderpump

Speaker 1 there was one played by lisa rena actually

Speaker 1 hello snow white

Speaker 1 how are you

Speaker 1 So then

Speaker 1 this fight is pretty much over. So Bose announces that tomorrow is the boat excursion, which is terrifying because we know what happens on boats, all these shows.
And this show is no exception.

Speaker 1 Dawn, dun, dumb. So now we go back to the villa and Kathy gets a call.
Oh, sorry. Hey, I just want to say, Kathy's like, what time? She goes, we start at 9.30.
Okay, that means 10 for me.

Speaker 1 She's like, ah. I mean, we start at 9.

Speaker 1 It's like, that's so Kathy to be like, I'm not even going to pretend like I'm going to be on time. I'm building in 30 minutes for me and all boats can wait.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 Kathy gets a call from Carol, her brand manager, and she's like, Oh, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 1 She's like putting on, you know, creams and she's putting sucking down vitamins and doing all the stuff that Kathy Hilton does, injecting stem cells from a baby she stole on the beach, you know, that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 And it's like, Hold on a second, I'm changing, just hold on one second, okay? And she just puts the phone on the bed and never comes back, never comes back to it.

Speaker 1 10 minutes later, you just hear Carol going, Uh, Kathy, Kathy,

Speaker 1 Kathy.

Speaker 1 So then, um,

Speaker 1 uh, Garcelle, everyone's getting ready, and everything, so they're all, they're all settling in and stuff, and Garcel is not happy with what happened at dinner.

Speaker 1 But in the meantime, Bose is talking to Erica. She's like, so why don't we even start with something like this? I might have to go to sleep with my, my hair is too big.
I'm not going to

Speaker 1 take it all off. And Erica's like, yeah, well, whatever.
And Erica starts pulling out her clips and everything. And Bose is horrified.
And Bose is like,

Speaker 1 what is going on? Like, why are you taking your hair out right now? She's like, this is the second time.

Speaker 1 Can I just say that this is only the second time in my life I've seen white women rip out tracks, clips in, and just throw it on the chair next to him. And we see the first time.

Speaker 1 Unless it's a cultural thing, it's just a white lady thing that they just start ripping out their hair and throwing them on the couch.

Speaker 1 And Bose is like staring because we see the first time she saw it was at the party at the beginning of the season where

Speaker 1 they were pulling out Kathy's clips and everything. So they're then starting to have this seat.
As they go on with the scene, Erica is still pulling out the hair.

Speaker 1 And every time she puts the hair down on the sofa, you see Bose looking at it like, you're disgusting. Yeah, you're trash.
So Doreen's like, well,

Speaker 1 booze. Now I understand.
The intention tonight, but because she's about to come for Bose for not having her back and like standing up to her at the party or saying something against her at the party.

Speaker 1 So Bose is like, no, look, look, this is,

Speaker 1 I can't concentrate on anything but the hair. Can we talk about this in a minute? Please.
White women, please explain. So then,

Speaker 1 Dorit's like, well, remember, we were having these conversations and Sutton said, sisterhood. It's just how hypocritically kind she was being.
Do you remember? Do you remember?

Speaker 1 And Erica's like, oh, god damn it, this hurts. Does this look real, by the way? Does anybody fall in for this bullshit?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Dorit's like, you know, I think Bose wants to believe the best in people. It's one of the things I love about her.

Speaker 1 Unfortunately, I have enough experience to realize Sutton isn't sorry about the wallet comment, and she's worried about the way it made her look to all these women, and she's trying to save face.

Speaker 1 Which is probably true. I'm going to say that Dorit is probably

Speaker 1 accurate on that one. Well, that's true, but it's also hypocritical because when is Dorit ever sincere? Like, when is Doreen?

Speaker 1 I mean, give me a break. And then there's that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, you can't say that you felt bad about making the joke about the booze, but then you decided you were not going to call it back because she called you a bitch.

Speaker 1 Like, okay.

Speaker 1 So she's like, you do realize that I've been sitting for three weeks with the shit that she has slung at me. She's like, yes, but then when you finally get it, acknowledging the apology is important.

Speaker 1 She goes, I did. I did.
I acknowledge it by saying.

Speaker 1 I do not accept this.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm just like, Darit, you keep going back.
And she says Dorit has a challenge with being able to give apologies and now receiving apologies.

Speaker 1 So she's starting to see some cracks in the Dorit facade. And she's like, okay, so what do you want this chick to do? And she's like, well,

Speaker 1 for us, it has to be more than just words. Erica, she's done this 9 million times.
And it's like, he's seen a pyramid over there. Yeah.
I think it's just letting things be and see how it develops.

Speaker 1 She's like, well, but, you know, you have to not put it on the back burner because that doesn't solve anything. And so Dorit's like, well, maybe there's no solution.
Sutton's just evil.

Speaker 1 So in the other villa, of course, Sutton is talking about this shit with Jennifer and Garcel. And so she's like, well, how do you feel, Sutton?

Speaker 1 Because I really feel like you guys made a little progress today. No? No.
Okay. Your eyes are slitting and they're turning red and green.
Okay, okay. Christmas is canceled.
Damn those puppies.

Speaker 1 I get it. I get it.
I'll just be sitting over here quietly.

Speaker 1 So Sutton says,

Speaker 1 this is her classic warning that she's unhappy and she's about to say something shady. Well, I'm going to say this.
You're like, uh-oh. She's going to look.

Speaker 1 She's going to announce that she's going to say something. I'm not going to be today.
Okay, everybody. I'm going to say it.
I'm going to say it.

Speaker 1 I think that should be, I think that's like maybe moved the needle a little bit. She's like, I moved the needle.
Okay. I picked up that needle and I moved it.
And that needle pierced me in the heart.

Speaker 1 I'm not apologizing again.

Speaker 1 And Garcelle is pissed. She's still pissed at Sutton.
And she's like, well, I don't think you should apologize. No, unless you're apologizing to me, hint and hint.
And she's like, well, I'm not.

Speaker 1 And I'm actually, I will say this. I did appreciate when Kyle.
my new best friend did step up and defense of me for Dorit for about three seconds. That was very special.

Speaker 1 We see a flashback of Kyle saying like, Darit, that's not nice. And she's like, I mean, the way she stood up, it's just so wonderful having a best friend.

Speaker 1 I never had someone who had my back like that. And it's just hearing those words for the three seconds while I'll sit in my cocktail, it just, it just filled me with so much love.

Speaker 1 I felt like I had a wind beneath my wings. And then she tells us, Kyle, stepping up for me.
I knew we were friends. I knew it.
I knew it. And now everybody does too.

Speaker 1 It's just so sad to be this insecure when you're so rich and like have so many years under your belt. Like, come on.
You're like the better. You're like the better.

Speaker 1 Like you, you are the prize in this situation, not Kyle.

Speaker 1 So Garcelle's like, okay, well, when somebody says to you, you know, when you say, I'm going, I'm going back to Kyle, when she said, if there's anything to tell you, I will tell you, then we do say, and then like, and then, then we do, and then we say, okay, I'll leave it alone.

Speaker 1 Um, and Sutton's like, well, I do think it's a bit unfair to just say we want to know everything right now. And you just got to tell us.
Yeah, but remember we made a plan.

Speaker 1 Remember we sat there and we're like, we're going to get her on this one. Should we roll the flashback? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, we made that plan before. Me and Kyle were best friends.
So, I mean, mean, we're basically friend married now. So, you're basically coming after my friend, my friend, girl, woman, female.

Speaker 1 What am I supposed to say now?

Speaker 1 Well, all of a sudden, you're not doing it. When it comes to Kyle, you have to have a blindfold on.
That's not true.

Speaker 1 Why would I have a blindfold on to the most radiant and beautiful person at the table? Well, I believe it. I mean, that's how I feel.
And you want me to tell you how I feel?

Speaker 1 So I'm telling you how I feel. And it's like, why could we do it last year? She goes, well, last year, I asked a lot of questions because there were a a lot of, you know, changes in her life.

Speaker 1 So they seemed dramatic. Also, she wouldn't ask me.
So that was pretty much it. You know, what do you want from me? What do you want from me? You know, I had to listen to friend to friend.

Speaker 1 And she goes, I don't want anything. You know what? I'm going to bed.
Good night. You know, you've got blinders on.
Good night. And she's like, well, you did the same thing, Garcelle, last year.

Speaker 1 And then Garcelle trips. And she's like, ow.
Damn it. She goes, oh, forget that.
I meant to do the same thing last year.

Speaker 1 She's like, well, I'm not saying I didn't, but now when it comes to her, you're just so protective.

Speaker 1 yeah she's not always been the most amazing fan she says i am not protecting her because she can do everything herself she is wonderful and she is self-reliant i don't need to do anything for her well for some reason your loyalty is beyond she's like well i am not protecting her and there's no loyalty i just will do whatever kyle wants to do and that is my choice that is not out of loyalty and i want kyle to do whatever she wants to do i'm not going to protect her that's her life her wonderful glorious life that i'm so lucky to be a part of and i am not going to babysit a grown woman because i will be a friend to the grown woman a lot i will not do that garcel's like whatever is a woman i'm going who survived an attack from a brick hitting her in the nose on the set of halloween one of the greatest films of all our time have some respect have some respect garcel's like i'm going to bed

Speaker 1 So Garcelle's like, all of a sudden, she's taking a different stance.

Speaker 1 I mean, I've had sons back so many times, but tonight, she just left me out to dry okay i see you i see you know it reminds me of it's this is

Speaker 1 i think garcel was like this is the moment to land the death blow we are gonna finally get kyle on the morgan wade stuff tonight it's all set up it's queued up it's ready to go and then sudden's not there to to help do it and bust it wide open it's like on a reality it's like on big brother that's one season the season six of big brother when there was like the friendship versus the other people and the other people were going to like the the the sovereign six they were going to finally take out the friendship and then howie for some reason put up people from the sovereign six and you're like why why i know this is a very specific reference but to those who will know that who saw that season they will see it here in sun and sutton's actions

Speaker 1 so she goes to bed and then jennifer tilly comes to comfort sutton and she's like would you like a good and plenty and there's a couple with the thumb hairs on them there's glitter on this one i don't even think i have glitter in my suitcase at the moment.

Speaker 1 I need a moment alone. Please.
I need to take some time to myself for a second. Listen,

Speaker 1 it's very hard for me to think about the dulcet tones of Kyle Richards' voice when other people are talking. So please leave me alone so I can just hear her sounds.
Oh, yeah, that sounds great.

Speaker 1 So now the next day, they're all getting ready to go to the boat. And Jennifer's putting on earrings and she's like, oh, God, there's a hole here somewhere.

Speaker 1 That's what he said.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 Bose and Erica are getting their glam done. Erica's like, Well, I take sleeping pills on a trip like this.
She's like, You do? She's like, Yeah, I have to. Otherwise, I don't, you know.

Speaker 1 You don't wake up? Yeah. Well, how do you wake up? Magic.
She's like, oh, okay.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 in the next villa, Sutton and Garcel sit to have a little chat over their coffee. And she's like, okay, well, listen, have you seen the girls? She goes, how can I see the girls?

Speaker 1 Like, I've been perusing the neighborhood in my nightgown. I have some sense.

Speaker 1 How would Kyle Richards feel if she knew her best friend was walking around in her nightgown?

Speaker 1 So listen.

Speaker 1 I want to say something. I'm sorry.
I got a little frustrated last night and I stormed off. I just wanted to see what it was like to be petty like Kyle Richards.

Speaker 1 She's like, oh, okay, well, I hope you enjoyed that. You know, it was our first fight.
She's like, I know, I know. It was exhilarating, but also kind of sad.

Speaker 1 I'm like, if I'm going to fight, I want it to be about against someone that's more entertaining. You know, I get that.
I get that. So then

Speaker 1 Garcel's saying, I just feel like

Speaker 1 we're tiptoeing around Morgan. You know, when I brought that up at the table, you went on full protecting mode of her.
And I get it. You guys are in a good place now.

Speaker 1 And I am, I am, so am I with her, but I felt frustrated and I just felt like you weren't listening to me. And I guess I just wanted to back up since I've done it for you for so many,

Speaker 1 so many years. I was like, okay,

Speaker 1 you want to back up. And it was hard for me to get back up because I was being backed up by Kyle Richard, which felt so amazing.

Speaker 1 And, you know, if she's backing me up and then I'm backing you up, we basically got a pyramid. And I don't have the upper body strength to do that.
Do you understand? Okay.

Speaker 1 You know, this year, I really wanted to have a deeper relationship with Kyle, but it's like wanting to do the butterfly in a puddle.

Speaker 1 No matter what your aspirations are, a puddle is still just a puddle. Can't get any deeper than that.
So anyway, you know, she's out with Morgan here.

Speaker 1 She's out with Morgan there, and she's on the side of the stage. And we're not allowed to say anything about it.
Why can't we ask about it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, so we see a clip of Kyle being like, oh my God, you know, like all his stories out there, I'm aware.

Speaker 1 I'm aware of how famous I am, you know, and there's just so much curiosity about that person that I...

Speaker 1 you know, forced a tattoo on of myself and then, you know, fed, fed vegetable kebabs at a memorial service. And, you know,

Speaker 1 I Don't know why anyone's curious about it, but um I don't have to speak on anyone's behalf, but my own

Speaker 1 So Garcelle's like, you know, like how are we supposed to have a friendship if you're hiding your life

Speaker 1 You know, sometimes when somebody's just so adamant about not want to talk about it You just have to respect it and move on unless it's your mother in which case you just ask her every single day to say I love you until finally she breaks down and does it because there's a TV crew there.

Speaker 1 But that's a special occasion. Well, that's what I'm going to do.
So Bose said she was at a restaurant and she saw Mo with a girl and called Kyle Kyle and told her, how about that?

Speaker 1 She's like, yeah, this is the first time I've heard that he's been there. And Carcell's like, yeah, but that girl.
They're like, yeah, she's dating. They're like, yeah, they're dating.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but why, why shouldn't he?

Speaker 1 She left.

Speaker 1 She left him for a young woman. And now everyone's like, I can't believe Mo is such a villain dating.
Listen, let the man live his best life.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Well, I just am like, you're separated.

Speaker 1 You also kind of cast the first stone. And I mean, one could say, who knows? He casts the first bone.

Speaker 1 The first bone, right? I mean, look, Maurice, it sounds very much like Mauriso was not there for Kyle when she needed him. And so, in some ways, that is the first stone.
But the point is, like,

Speaker 1 we all saw last season you and Morgan Wade. And I'm not saying it's like, I'm not being like, oh, you slut.
I'm just saying, you know, the point is

Speaker 1 your relationship with Mauriso has run its course. And now you guys are starting to see other people.
And that's just the way it goes. And if you can do it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's just like stale outrage at this point. So, and, and it's not even Kyle outrage, really.
It's everybody else trying to make it a big deal.

Speaker 1 So then they all go down downstairs and start taking pictures. And

Speaker 1 Jennifer Tilly is taking a naked photo of herself in the pool, you know, say, oh, look at this thirst trap.

Speaker 1 And Son's like, why is everybody else doing these thirst things? You know, I'm, I'm only thirsty for the material of my bathing seat, vodka.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're all doing thirst traps and they're having a fun time with it. And now they all gather.

Speaker 1 And this is a oh my god whoa you look great you look great what are you wearing it's valentino oh my god fantastic blah blah blah it's you know it's the whole classic beverly hills 10 minutes of admiring brands yeah so now it's time to go on the catamaran she's like well there'll be swimming food sunbathing swimming more swimming and uh garcel's like could someone be thrown overboard absolutely Can't wait to see who.

Speaker 1 So now they get on the boat and stuff. And Erica's, you know, Erica's about to turn on Sutton because every time Erica does it, she butters her up first.
That's so fucking funny.

Speaker 1 I wish they had like a montage that they showed of Erica doing this. So Sutton's like, please excuse my butting your face.
She's like, oh, actually, it looks good. You look cute, girl.

Speaker 1 What are you weighing now? 100? She's like, oh, come on. 110.
She's like, oh, good. Well, I'm 128 to 130, and that's it.
Just us southern ladies obsessing over calories together, aren't we, besties?

Speaker 1 That's such a funny observation. I never noticed that, but it's true.
Like she does butter her up. She butters her up, and then she gets her all happy, and then just breaks her down.

Speaker 1 Um, so they're all getting on the boat and everything, and they're all sitting at the table.

Speaker 1 And Kyle, of course, her eyes, she notices Jennifer's earrings, and she's like, Her eyes, of course, are like bling, bling, bling.

Speaker 1 She's got the terminator eyes, she's got the display where it's like it zooms in on the earrings. She's like, um, I can't get over your earrings.
Like, oh, yeah, the dojing gabbana.

Speaker 1 She's like, I love them, I want them. Yeah, well, it's Altimoda, so there's only one, So

Speaker 1 you can't get it at the Dojing Gabbana boutique, but they,

Speaker 1 which I'm sorry, I know that sounds really obnoxious.

Speaker 1 Kyle's like, one of a kind. I can't buy them.
Like, she's spiraling. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So now they go to the buffet of cheese and they're eating, you know, they start getting their eating and stuff like that. And so.

Speaker 1 Jennifer is standing there and she's like, um, okay, do you need anything? And Kathy's like, do me a favor. uh, take my plate.
Okay, thank you. Thank you so much.
Oh, okay, you want this too?

Speaker 1 Yes, I is, what is that, a fork? Yes. Oh, thank you, love.
Could you hand me a napkin? And did you see any dressing over there? Is there any butter? Would you please get that?

Speaker 1 There's some crumbs on this table. That would be great if you could maybe decrumb the table.

Speaker 1 And the producer is like, does Kathy think that you're the help on the boat? She's like, I don't know. Sometimes I think she's not quite sure who I am.

Speaker 1 Carl's like, yeah, if you're around Kathy, she's gonna ask you to do things for her, you know. I mean, that's just how she is.
Oscar nominee doesn't matter, doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 So, uh, Sutton's like, Yeah, there's a hierarchy, and Kathy's on the top, thankfully, uh, best friends with her sister. So, I'm getting there, getting there.

Speaker 1 So, everyone's now lazing about on the boat, sunbathing, etc. And, you know, Darika hangs out with Kyle, and she's like, Honestly, Kyle, oh my gosh, if I fall into your face, I'm just saying, huh?

Speaker 1 And Kyle's like, oh my God, by the way, I have a very good view, by the way. Like, your butt is like right over my head.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 And she's like, you know, you're like a rock, Kyle. You have the body of a rock.
She's like, really? I mean, I try, you know, that's like what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 I'm just going through the, going to the gym at 6 a.m., not eating mashed potatoes, sending them back. So Dorita asks about Kim, and Kyle's like, she's good, but I don't see her.

Speaker 1 Like, how the fuck would I know? She's Kim. She's a mess.
I don't want to talk about it. So then she's like, well, I haven't seen you three together in so, so long.

Speaker 1 And she goes, yeah, well, I mean, we're just not that close. So then we go to the other ladies and they're

Speaker 1 right. Just the Richard sisters.
Like, Darret should know by now, you can never have three in the same room.

Speaker 1 One's always got to be on the outs.

Speaker 1 And it's interesting, too, because Doreet's kind of on the goods with Kyle right now, but she's bringing up another subject she knows Kyle does not want to discuss, which is Kim, you know?

Speaker 1 So I thought that was interesting. So then Erica is talking to Set and like, oh, what happened to you? Come on.
She's like, well, I just don't want it to fly off, you know?

Speaker 1 So, you know, guys, I was talking to Garcelle today about my apology to Doreen. And I really meant it.
And I just want you all to know I meant it. I wasn't putting it on my ears.
Okay.

Speaker 1 It was a thing I said. And listen, my name is Gonze.
Okay. I'm going to say this.
I'm going to say it.

Speaker 1 Well, it wasn't a good thing to say. It wasn't a good thing to say.
It was a terrible thing to say. It was terrible.
I beat myself up about it.

Speaker 1 Thankfully, the gold chain I was beating myself up with was a lot more hurtful than what other pleather, leather strap Doreen would be beating herself with because she's poor. But I do feel bad.

Speaker 1 Very bad.

Speaker 1 You know what I've noticed? By the way, you look great. I love the earrings on you.
Your hat's wonderful. You just look better than ever.
But you know what I've noticed?

Speaker 1 You are very critical and sometimes very, not, you're just not the most compassionate to women that are going through the worst time of their lives. And I felt it with myself.
And Sun's like,

Speaker 1 and like her eyes, she has these very feline eyes and they just start to like lower and Sun's like, oh, really?

Speaker 1 This is what we're, this is what we're gonna do and we see like actually a very very long montage of of Sutton going after Erica to reach

Speaker 1 Kyle so Erica's like you know you poop yeah but this is the one thing about this I'm sorry but just before we go on because of all these clips they showed they make it look like Sutton and Sutton was

Speaker 1 the main one who would go after Erica and be like, but I read this article. And everyone else was like, it's too long.
I couldn't read it. But what pisses me off is she's doing all of this.

Speaker 1 And then she's standing up for Kyle later. But it was Kyle who was the one saying, we're questioning Erica on this shit.
If you're on a TV show, you have to be questioned.

Speaker 1 And that's just the fucking way it is. So we're going to do it, you know? And now she's off like she didn't do anything.
And the only one being held to the fire is Sutton. And that's not fair.

Speaker 1 And it's also not the same thing, Erica, when you're, it's a, it's a whole scandal that's all over the national news that you don't get to just talk about. Like, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 Of course you're going to answer.

Speaker 1 And then you come on making excuses for Tom and saying he's got dementia and all this other trying to help his defense like you don't just you get questioned and none of this has anything to do with that so erica the fact that erica every fight erica brings it back what about what was done to me last year you deserved it and you're lucky that you got off and even got to come back and get a chance at redemption because you deserve those questions and you still do there's so much stuff that they're not asking you right now so consider yourself lucky i wouldn't piss off sutton while you still got that marco marco thing going on because a lot of the audience doesn't even even think about that one, and she could nail your ass with that one.

Speaker 1 So be careful, Erica. Be careful, my little lamb.

Speaker 1 No, I mean, I think that you bring up a very good point, which is that like Erica is conflating,

Speaker 1 you know, being

Speaker 1 kicking people when they're down with someone who's trying to get clarity about something.

Speaker 1 And, you know, when you have a show where you have like the probably the biggest star on the show, the biggest principal who champions the idea of being open and honest, open and honest, but then is very protective and is very private about when stuff is happening in her life or her friends' life, her allies' lives.

Speaker 1 It feels like hypocrisy. And I think Sutton is triggered by hypocrisy.

Speaker 1 Most people are, but she is particularly triggered by it. And she wants to get to the bottom of it because I think Sutton's also like, I have been really open about everything in my life.

Speaker 1 I've been very raw on this show. And then you get to just poke at me and you get to have fights with me and you get to do all these things with me.
And yet, I'm not allowed to say, question you.

Speaker 1 And I've had it. I'm going to ask you questions.
And it's uncomfortable for Erica and for Darit and for Kyle.

Speaker 1 But, like, it's also, she's doing her job. Okay.
It's not, it's not like she's going around like fat shaming them or something like that.

Speaker 1 I mean, you know, when sudden, when sudden, with the whole thing with the invasion and something's like, well, I had a hard day too, because there was someone who's supposed to be on a plane.

Speaker 1 You couldn't come in here. It's like, that was shitty.
Yes.

Speaker 1 But the truth is, like you said, this is a show about being sort of putting yourself out there on TV and they're not, they're being very protective.

Speaker 1 They get selectively protective, selectively open and honest. And Sun's just kind of like,

Speaker 1 you, you can't do this. And now you're going to make me look like the shitty person when I'm just doing the thing I'm supposed to be doing.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And so Erica's like, well, you pose as a friend and oftentimes work as an enemy. And Garcell just goes,

Speaker 1 wow.

Speaker 1 Wow, wow. Wow.

Speaker 1 She's like, you know, I've had enough of sitting back and watching Sutton Strack's fake apologies, fake sisterhood.

Speaker 1 If Sutton was sincere about the apology last night, she wouldn't have had to bring it up and sell it to us one more time.

Speaker 1 I'm like, well, she would have because if she didn't bring it up, it's like, can you believe she just thinks she can say it this one time and then everything is fine?

Speaker 1 So Sutton is like, here, I'm just going to emphasize that it was so important for me to bring it up that I'm going to say it again. And they're like, oh, really?

Speaker 1 Wow, now we know it's fake because you had to sell it to us a second time.

Speaker 1 And of course, Sutton is going to blow this up into a much bigger deal.

Speaker 1 So she's like, to say that I mistreat women.

Speaker 1 How dare you? She's like, well, I mean, these women here. She's that is a very strong statement.
Sutton strike mistreats women. How dare you?

Speaker 1 Where are you?

Speaker 1 Promoter singer pops up. I believe the phrase you're looking for is you don't support other women, Erica.
So Erica's like, well, it's a true statement for me.

Speaker 1 And what I've observed for the last three years, and this is just my observation, is that it's okay for you to say things and we can't say this.

Speaker 1 Oh, for someone like you to say that, that I mistreat women. And like, do you imply that I would ever mistreat someone as saintly and as godly as Kyle Richards over there? Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and she's like, well, I mean, you do this thing. You say, I want to help you.
I feel bad for you. And then we see the clip of her saying, I am here for you.
I got you a care package kit. Okay.

Speaker 1 There's chips. There's candy.
There's champagne. There's handcuffs.
Those are for sexuality, not for prison. And I'm here for you.
And then kind of like confronting her and taking her down.

Speaker 1 And she goes, but then you turn around and call me a liar because you were lying about a lot of shit. That's why.
Okay. She did one thing, then you lied about stuff.

Speaker 1 And then she asked you about the lying about stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So Erica's like, I'm just pointing out a pattern in the way that you've treated people at their lowest point.
And son's like, well, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 I didn't realize that you cared about patterns because there were a lot of patterns in the Tom Girardi case and you involved in it. So we're going to go and talk about patterns.

Speaker 1 We're going to go there. But anyway, I'm sorry that I asked questions about the LA Times.
I'm sorry that I'm the only one here capable of reading more than three sentences in an article.

Speaker 1 And therefore, it all was on my shoulders to ask questions about it. It really seems to bother you.

Speaker 1 Of course it bothers me. She goes, okay, well, that's on you.
That's not on me. She goes, no, it's on you for doing what you did.
She goes, I apologize, Erica.

Speaker 1 She goes, well, I do accept your apology, but you still did it.

Speaker 1 So Collander are like, oh my God, there's like a scene happening without us. Let's get involved.
So they come in. By the way, Doreen, we haven't talked about this.

Speaker 1 Dorita is wearing like a Yosemite Sam hat. It is this, the most enormous beach hat.
It is like, it's like a, it looks like a giant like tortilla chip fell on her head.

Speaker 1 I took a picture of it because it was so funny.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I've ever seen a beach hat that was as big as that.

Speaker 1 So she's like, and you know, you've been hard on Doreen. Just Doreen has been hard on me.
She's like, I know this, but you're kicking a dog when she's at her lowest. Well, I apologize.
I apologize.

Speaker 1 And then I apologize today, but I'm not going to be sit here and put on trial by a judge and a jury like I'm a terrible person when I am not. I am not.

Speaker 1 I demand to have a jury of my peers, not a jury of my poor.

Speaker 1 Oh, she wants a jury of beers. I'm telling you, she does have a drinking problem.
Oh, come on, listen better. So Erica's like, you can feel the way you want, and I'm just telling you how I feel.

Speaker 1 She's like, oh, well,

Speaker 1 I can feel the way I want to. Thank you for the permission, ma'am.
So Erica's like, well, I just knew the other shoe was going to drop with. Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 That was me doing my Erica Girardi impersonation, which was quite accurate, I believe. I just knew the other shoe was going to drop with Erica at some point.

Speaker 1 And I knew not to trust it because she did this before to me. And so now we have montages of before, of all those times when Erica has buttered up Sutton and then turned on her like at the reunion.

Speaker 1 I mean, they're like, but I thought you said that you forgave. I thought you said that you forgave Sudden, Erica.
And she goes, oh, I was just playing a bitch.

Speaker 1 She was such a disaster that reunion. That was one of the worst reunion performances.
Oh, my God. She just looked crazy, too.
Oh, my God. Whatever.
She was like a totally different person.

Speaker 1 That was, that was nuts. Yeah.
So Sutton's like, you're not a real friend, Erica. You know what? I gave you a pizza party at Chook E.
Chase.

Speaker 1 She's like, well, I basically, everyone, guess what? Here's the news, Flash. I'm basically a terrible person.
That's what I am.

Speaker 1 You said I'm unkind to women who are going through their baddest, their worst point in their lives. It's like, well, you in this group? She's like, no, you said women as a whole.

Speaker 1 Okay, let me tell you something. I was always nice to him.
I was nice to Nancy Reagan when I met her that one time. It's like, oh, talk about women in this group.
I mean, don't get into semantics.

Speaker 1 Oh, and now I'm anti-Semitic. Is that what you're trying to say? Oh, wow, that's real convenient.
Do you know how many Jewish people I've tried to help get divorced lawyers when their husbands cheat?

Speaker 1 I'm not even talking about Jewish people. Well, see, look at me.
I'm being inclusive in this argument and you're not. So now who's the mean one? And by the way, Kyle converted Judaism also.

Speaker 1 And guess what? She is a wonderful person, aren't you, Kyle? Kyle, I'm your best friend. I'm a best friend, right? Right?

Speaker 1 Well, she's just trying to clarify. She's just trying to clarify.
Let's let Erica clarify. And so it's like, oh my God, Kyle's jumped shit now.
Fucking bitch. I can't believe it.

Speaker 1 I can't believe that, bitch. But Sutton's sticking to this whole thing now.
Like, you say I'm anti-woman. She's like, oh, shut up, Sutton.
I'm not saying anti-woman.

Speaker 1 I'm saying us anti-us i mean this group anti-woman how dare you so sutton's trying to make it this much worse thing and then she's like what do y'all want from me what do you want seriously what do you want from me i'm tired i get blamed for everything all you do is telling me i'm wrong constantly oh god man you are not gonna kick me when i'm down

Speaker 1 and this and during this time i'm like wow i'm like garcel is really being like quiet you know like normally they have been accusing garcel of being Sutton's mouthpiece, but Garcelle's not doing it this time.

Speaker 1 And she says, Well, well, there's so many times that, you know, Kyle could step in to have Sutton's back, and she doesn't. She's not doing it today.
And Sutton refused to see it.

Speaker 1 And I've been seeing it for years. And Garcelle's kind of like, I'm not doing this.

Speaker 1 I've jumped like, you know, she didn't have my back last night. I'm not going to have her back this time.
Let's see if her new friend Kyle will jump in. And of course, she doesn't.

Speaker 1 Which, of course, Kyle jumps to the wrong side.

Speaker 1 So they're like, oh, come on. So Dorit's in it now.
She's like, come on, come on, Sutton. And Sutton's like, pick on somebody else.
But why is it okay for you to pick on people?

Speaker 1 And she goes, I'm not picking on anybody. You picked on me.
It hurt. It's been three weeks of pain, pure pain.

Speaker 1 Oh, come on, Darit.

Speaker 1 If you don't think you've picked on me, that's okay. That's fine.
But you have. She's like, well, you know what? That's what I said.

Speaker 1 She's like, and Sutton's like, I'm sorry, Erica's like, that's what I said. I'm getting like very stimulated because it was a really good fight.
And Sutton's like, I was, I was so henpicked by you.

Speaker 1 I was the picking. I was like a little kernel of corn in your beak and you're picking and picking and picking.

Speaker 1 Okay, again, you actually need to speak English so I can understand, please, henpicking. I don't get it.
Yeah, please speak English words. I don't understand what you're saying.

Speaker 1 And she's like, well, maybe if I did it in an English accent, it would work better for you.

Speaker 1 And maybe so. Maybe so.

Speaker 1 That did actually help quite a bit. Thank you.
I was a little confused.

Speaker 1 I can only take so much, okay?

Speaker 1 So, you know what? I apologize to you, and I meant every single thing.

Speaker 1 She's like, well, you apologize for Caviar Caspia, but what are you, what you're not understanding is that there's more to apologize for.

Speaker 1 Well, that's all I am going to apologize for for Caviar, for calling you poor at the caviar place. Oh, really? What about bitching me who?

Speaker 1 You know what? That's it. I'm not going to apologize for anything else.
I am good. I am good right now.

Speaker 1 Do you want to move food? Do you want to move food, Zutton? She goes, well, not right now. I'm good right now.
I am good. It's like, well, well, well.

Speaker 1 Her actions have been the same all along, but for the first time, her words and actions match. And this is why I don't believe your apology.
Oh, please, you pick and you pick.

Speaker 1 Sutton's right that Dariet just keeps picking and picking until Sutton gets pissed. And then she goes, there she is, losing her temper.
Well,

Speaker 1 what you ordered. Don't order a hamburger and be mad that you got fries on the side.

Speaker 1 You know what? I apologize, and I meant my apology, but I want to be on ice with you, Carcass Ian. Bo's like, oh, well, this is really surprising to me.
I don't know this Sutton in this way.

Speaker 1 She's lashing out. She's angry.
And I'm seeing a different side that I'm not sure I like. Where have you been, Bose?

Speaker 1 That's Sutton's personality. Lashing out and angry.
I think it's like 30 breakdowns this season alone. It's not like it's your first time seeing them.

Speaker 1 So Sun's like, this is not going to be Sutton not on drama. It's a good we are not doing that.

Speaker 1 Last week I'm crazy yachts from hell.

Speaker 1 So Sutton, she's like, she has her hat, she puts on her hat and she's just like,

Speaker 1 I'm going gone. I'm going gone.
So she like walks off. And Garcia's like, normally, I would have something to say.
And I really don't like to see them pile up on Sutton. And

Speaker 1 under regular circumstances, I would just say, everyone, no, but I'm not going to do that because the other night she didn't have my back.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to stick my neck out for her when she doesn't do it for me. She can deal with it.

Speaker 1 And Carl's like, I mean, Sutton loves to start an issue and then just like create a whole chaos around it and then like act like a victim. Okay.

Speaker 1 She didn't start this, though. You were sitting right there.
She just said she meant her apology. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So then Erica's like, oh, she's triggered because she knows I'm right.

Speaker 1 So Carl goes to follow Sutton and Satin's, I just need to be by myself. Two seconds, two seconds, I've got things to say, very important things to say.
And Kathy goes, these boat rides,

Speaker 1 they're not really working.

Speaker 1 I don't think these are working.

Speaker 1 You know what, Sutton?

Speaker 1 I came down here to console you, one very rich lady to another very rich lady. Sometimes poor people just don't understand.
And you have to let poor people just be poor. And that's okay.

Speaker 1 She's like, thank you. Thank you for saying that.
You know, I hate these fucking bitches. They're such a fuck.
They're such fucking fitnesses. Such a fucking bitch.

Speaker 1 And that's where we end. Sutton having a breakdown out of a boat window holding her sun hat on, just saying the C word over and over.

Speaker 1 It was really good.

Speaker 1 It was a really good pylon on Sutton, and she acted exactly how you expect her to act, which is why she's so wonderful, why she's been wonderful all along, because she just can't help but be the disaster that she is.

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