#2765 RHOA S16E02 Part One: Grilling the Hot Dog Man

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Speaker 1 I'm a little fliberty-driven, okay? I just got back from the airport. I didn't even take off my jacket.
I haven't even peed. Okay, but I did get a Starbucks.
So let's do this.

Speaker 1 It's Real Housewives of Atlanta, season 100, episode 2.

Speaker 1 Fun episode. I'm gone.

Speaker 2 Hot dogs and hot mics. That's the name of the episode.
So we actually pick up where the last episode left off, which is that Shamia is having this birthday party, and the entire cast is upstairs.

Speaker 2 They've taken the elevator up to this random room, and now they're all talking.

Speaker 2 And basically, there's a confrontation about drew uh working with music icon dennis the hot dog guy and is this a violation of girl code

Speaker 1 and it's really cool because his label he's just gonna add an exclamation point to the end of hot dog so instead of like the hot dog king it's just gonna be hot dog

Speaker 1 jam

Speaker 2 so shamia's like okay she's like well three people said that they've seen you like because they're wondering if drew and and dennis are dating and shamia's like well three people said that they saw you at the club and you get looked like you look like you guys were all booed up and drew like oh gosh stop playing no of course not and and they're like yeah they said that you were even matching she's like what not matching no not me but of course since drew is like a pathological liar i don't believe a word she is saying and i think that drew is either getting down with hot dog man or she's at least happy to fan the flames of that gossip because she's just excited that people are talking about her.

Speaker 1 She is a least blowing hot dog guy. Dare I said it.
I believe it. And then we see a picture.

Speaker 1 Someone has a picture on their phone and they're like, we saw the Instagram picture and we only see hot dog man's arm, but it is matching. It is the same color as her outfit.
And

Speaker 1 you know, Drew's on because she does this thing when she lies where she squeals all of her words. So they're like, are you having sex with him? And she's like, stop playing.

Speaker 1 And they're like, okay, but you're matching. And she's like, not matching.

Speaker 1 She does this really high squeal thing. So you know she's a damn liar.
And she's lying in a Patsy Stone wig and an Ivana Trump wig. So it's not

Speaker 1 going well for her.

Speaker 2 I have to say that the hot dog thing on Bravo right now is very real.

Speaker 2 And I just have my latest update, because I feel like now I'm updating with any piece of hot dog news I have in my life, is that I went to a very fancy restaurant last week. And the first course

Speaker 2 was basically, it was like a cube. It was like a cube of like gelatin.

Speaker 2 It was like, it was like molecular gastronomy and it had little bits in it and it was served on a postcard that said had like a picture of like chicago hot dogs and it was like this is this little cube of gelatin it has the flavors of a chicago hot dog you just eat it in one bite and i was like this is crazy and i took a bite i swear to god it tasted just like a hot dog i am blown away so that is my latest hot dog news which is that i had a cube and it tasted like a hot dog so

Speaker 1 but how can when you eat like an actual hot dog that is flavored to taste like a hot dog? Cause you know that shit is flavored, right?

Speaker 1 It's just like it's like pig nose cartilage that's ground up and then they put flavoring and coloring and everything else in there. So, God knows what it even is.

Speaker 1 And they flavor it to taste like hot dog. And then everybody's like, oh my God, that's so unhealthy.
That's so processed. That is such processed sphere.
I can't believe you're eating that.

Speaker 1 It's like the worst thing to ever happen to the earth. That's why the earth is eating us.

Speaker 1 And then somebody makes a piece of fucking gelatin that tastes like hot dog, which is the most most processed shit. And people pay $500 for it.
And they're like, look at me.

Speaker 1 I ate a piece of gelatin that tasted like a hot dog. I'm fancy.
Like, it's unfair.

Speaker 2 There's a lot to unpack there. And we'll just, we'll let the food scientists in our audience do all the explaining.

Speaker 2 But what we can say is that hot dogs and Ben Mandelker are having a moment right now. We are in the thick of the hot dogness.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So then we, oh, by the way, we saw Tim Hortons at the airport and our friend Caitlin gave us gift certificates to Tim Hortons, but it was on the other side of the fucking glass and we couldn't do it.

Speaker 2 It was on the other side of the American quarantine glass.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Talk about flavored something that could be flavored like a hot dog.
I wanted to go over there. We couldn't do it.
Sorry, Tim.

Speaker 1 Okay, so Cynthia's still here. So she's like, well, I better not find out that anybody's booed up with Peter Anthony Thomas.
Well, don't worry about it. Isn't he in prison?

Speaker 1 I think if he's booed up with anyone, it's with a very, very large man with teardrop tattoos

Speaker 1 yeah um

Speaker 2 and and not in a hot way so then angela

Speaker 2 no i watched odds it can be hot i don't know with peter thomas even peter thomas can't make like like hot prison porn hot like he just can't do it so it's just it's just sad it's like no um so then angela says um

Speaker 2 she's like i know they didn't do the prom matching outfit so they're all just commenting on the fact that drew and and hot dog dennis were matching and cynthia's cynthia's like i'm gonna need them to not even be booed up with james michael hill with the matching outfit on please find someone else to match with and boo up with oh okay cynthia all right it's nice that cynthia's back but i'm gonna need i'm gonna i'm gonna hear some better content from her well you know she's trying they're not letting her do much i mean it's it's cynthia you know she's not really here to do much she's just here to like show us her kitchen counters and make a comment every once in a while i think she's just there to like provide some familiarity with the audience you know because there was a reboot and people would be like oh my god new people what do i do they're like okay here's cynthia bailey you're safe everything's okay cynthia bailey is here everyone's like it's true okay okay i can do this it's true and also they had to cut their budget a lot you know so they're getting cynthia because they fired cynthia already so she's cheaper now you know she's like okay five dollars i will do it i need to pay for you know bailey lake or lake bailey lake bailey right what's it called it's like when you go yeah yeah lake bailey it's like when you go to it's like when you go to the supermarket they've got like day-old bagels or something it's like well it's cheaper but you know yeah

Speaker 1 but it's still comforting to people, you know? Maybe a day-old bagel, but people will still buy it because it's comfort. So that's Cynthia, our day-old bagel with a, you know, with a

Speaker 1 John and Kate plus eight wig.

Speaker 1 So she's doing that. And then I think Shamia asked the better question.
She's like, so you've been in the industry, how long?

Speaker 1 Andrew's like, well, because Lord knows no one needs to hear that answer because it's going to be crazy, you know? Yeah. And

Speaker 1 she's like, well, why Dennis? So if you know the industry so well, why would you be with Dennis?

Speaker 2 And she's like well, you know Porsche and I we talked about it and Porsche was like no He's like no, we did no She's like I mean I was talking to Dennis about something about Pilar last minute and he was like oh you you're you can come to Drew's birthday party and but I had just like wiped off my face So I didn't go and then the next day you posted a picture and we see this like picture of Drew not looking amazing looking kind of like she you know when people say you you look like you just saw a ghost she looked like she saw like like like an army of ghosts She was like very like, oh my God.

Speaker 2 So, you know, Portia's like, you know, just like you weren't looking like yourself. You just look very washed, like washed out.
Everyone's like, oh, my God, not washed out.

Speaker 1 No, she didn't even say washed out. She said washed.
I washed. And she's like, she's like, not washed.

Speaker 1 And they're like, yeah. And they're like, why are you saying that? Why are you saying that she looks washed? And Drew goes, well, you know, she's right, everybody.
I didn't have any makeup on.

Speaker 1 And then they show a picture of Drew Drew looking washed and she has so much makeup on. I don't know what she's fucking talking about, but it's Drew.
So it's a lie.

Speaker 1 And she's like, well, I said washed. Okay.
So anyway. And Britt's like, well, I don't know about

Speaker 1 anybody else, but I look good with no makeup. Brit, whatever they did to your nose, sue them.
At least get some straws put in there. I mean, that girl has a roadblock in her nose.
What did she do?

Speaker 2 I don't know, but if she has a roadblock in there, I hope she got it insured from her own company. So then Portia's like, no, no, no, I'm in life insurance.

Speaker 1 And your nose looks great, but you cannot speak. I cannot listen to Britt talking.
It's not even a cute name. Because, you know, I'm a fan of a nasal voice.
My favorite voice on Bravo is that, really?

Speaker 1 But what do we do? Like, I love that kind of a voice, but she's not even that. It's just like they hacked off part of her nose.
And now she just sounds like that. And it's

Speaker 1 operator. It gets a part of my brain.
It hurts a part of my brain.

Speaker 2 She's doing Lily Tomlin, you know?

Speaker 1 the operator.

Speaker 3 So Portia's like, no, no, when I said this, I wasn't being mean. It was just a stress, you know, like she's like, washed from the stress, going through divorce.

Speaker 3 And I understand that because like I've been through divorce. So I understood.
And I called her up and I brought up Danny and you were like, well.

Speaker 2 And Cynthia's like, so you didn't know they were working together?

Speaker 3 She's like, I didn't. So I called her.
She didn't even say anything. Do not say a single thing to me about them working together.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and she's like, and listen, I don't even care about that. And Britt's like, it seems like you care.

Speaker 1 And Portia's like, well, I was just scrolling and I saw something about somebody in the studio and I just made something for dinner. Cause you know, I have nothing to do with that.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm not dealing with that. So then we see headlines: Atlanta streets say Drew and Dennis are smashing.
And Portia is hot and bothered. Hot tea is Porsche's baby daddy sleeping with Drew Sedora.

Speaker 1 And then we see a clip from Drew's new song. Oh,

Speaker 1 I love

Speaker 2 to be an Oscar MyShamia is like, well, somebody said that you guys came to the club together holding hands, and then we see a photo of them in the club. And that's why I wanted to ask you myself.

Speaker 2 And Drew's like, um, can I talk? Can I talk? Because I can't just put this to bed. Can I just put this dog in the bun? Okay, because it's very simple.

Speaker 2 I had reached out to you many times, Portia, and you can tell that like they all know Drew's lying at this point because she's doing her I'm speaking rationally voice, which is also another tell.

Speaker 2 She both squeals and then she comes down from the squeal to be like, I have a very clean explanation for why this crazy situation happened.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and Portia's like, you didn't contact me. You sent me texts, honey.
Well, that is contacting you. This is 2025.

Speaker 1 They nobody got time to call. Okay.
That is contacting you.

Speaker 2 So she's like, that's that's a text.

Speaker 1 And then Britt goes, that's not something you text.

Speaker 1 Okay. Thank you.
Let me connect you over the phone.

Speaker 1 If your texts are not going through, then please let me help you with the AT ⁇ T wireless network. So Drea's like, oh, no, that wasn't something I was going to text.

Speaker 1 So let me just tell you from the beginning. It all started when I was opening for superstar Tamar Braxton.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, I'm not doubting that. I'm just, I love that she wedges this in here.
Guys,

Speaker 2 when I was opening up from Tamar Braxton, winner of Celebrity Big Brother and sister of the Braxton who has singles, bigger singles on the radio.

Speaker 1 I suck.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and Dennis reached out to my management. So my hairdresser put down that wig he was about to clip into my hair and he said, hello, Drew's management.

Speaker 1 How can I help you? And he wanted to do the official after-party. So, you know, I said, Tamar, how do you feel about hot dogs?

Speaker 2 And she said, unbreak my dinner plans. And so I break.

Speaker 1 Squeeze some radish. Good on over

Speaker 1 hot dog and some mustard and ketchup.

Speaker 2 So she is

Speaker 2 just ready, honestly. I was ready to just keep singing that song because it's such a fun song to sing.
Why didn't you?

Speaker 1 It's a duet. I passed it over.
I passed you the

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Speaker 2 you know it was one of those things where i became

Speaker 2 since you mentioned baton it's time to

Speaker 1 we have to i that pinged me too

Speaker 1 i was like

Speaker 2 who cares why i didn't finish the song this is we need to we need to address this because we are podcasters and this needs to be addressed last week ronnie brought to my attention the story of the track runner who bopped someone on on the head with her baton.

Speaker 2 And we complained, like, why doesn't she have a nickname? And so I called her, I think, Batanarella or something like that. And I think we just sort of settled on that.

Speaker 2 And it was just a total nadir of our creativity because it was sitting right there. Someone actually had to message us and say, what about Batanya Harding? It's all right there.

Speaker 2 And I don't know how we. Yeah, how do we miss that?

Speaker 1 I was so disappointed in this. We actually had to have a meeting about it.

Speaker 2 We actually, we actually had like a very serious moment. And we're like, this is.

Speaker 1 It's like, Ben, we need to meet up and talk about how we've just been slacking the fuck off okay i know we're busy but there are things that are just slipping through our fingers we are not the same get it together like a baton like a baton handoff that didn't go well you know

Speaker 1 this is

Speaker 2 we next time leave no pun unturned if we are not satisfied with our pun we are not gonna stay we are not gonna stick with baton arela we will do it till we get to batana harding okay everyone yeah so thanks for the help, guys.

Speaker 1 Thanks. So,

Speaker 1 basically,

Speaker 1 he's like, Yeah, he reached out to management. He wanted me to do an app, he wanted to do an after-party.

Speaker 1 And then at the after party, he did a whole professional pitch, guys, about working on my music, you know. And so, that's when I told Portia.
Remember, Portia, I told you on the phone.

Speaker 1 Remember, I said, Dennis has been my angel on earth. Dennis has been a crutch to a lady with broken ankles.
Dennis has been the breath to a drowning person thank god for dennis

Speaker 2 um yeah but when you say to portia dennis has been an angel portia's just going to hear oh dennis donated hot dogs to uh to an after party so of course it's like oh yeah no he's great he really helped out your after party not that's not the same as saying oh he put he donated hot dogs in my after party and then i decided i was going to work with him on music which by the way does not make sense in real life like that is not that is not a leap that happens in real life.

Speaker 2 You know, it's like, oh, I'm an actor.

Speaker 2 I'm an actor. I think I want to be a director.
That's a leap. Hey, here's some hot dogs for your after party.
I think I'm going to be your music producer now. Not a leap.

Speaker 1 So she said, well, I'm so excited for you to hear this. You know, and I did ask Dennis.
I said, Portia.

Speaker 1 Portia, one of the best people in the world, one of my dearest friends of all time. She's not going to mind, right? You're going to talk to Portia, right?

Speaker 1 And I asked for her blessing. He said that he asked for your blessing and you gave it to him.
She's like, uh-uh. Portia is just like, uh-uh.
Stop lying. Stop lying to each other about me.

Speaker 1 And she's like, nope, Dennis has been like a brother to me since, you know, we all hung out. We all know what happened to Ralph.
Poor Ralph, but still,

Speaker 1 I love for him in my heart. And every time I pass that stairwell in the kitchen, all I hear is

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 2 Dennis is so important to us that every now and then

Speaker 2 I let Ralph out of the basement so we can say hi. It's very special.
So, Kelly, Kelly is like, I didn't sleep with him. I just, Portia, I mean, she didn't raise her voice, not one time.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, say something. Say something.
Did you sleep with him or not? Tell that girl. Like, what? Like, basically, Kelly's like, could you give a straight answer?

Speaker 2 And the answer is, no, it's Drew Sedora. So what you're going to get is stories about how Dennis was an angel and how he advocated for Drew and Ralph, as if that means anything.

Speaker 2 That actually speaks more to his bad judgment. Like, I would never hire anyone who advocated for Drew and Ralph.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then this is so dreary, too. She goes, and then that's when he, that's when he really nailed the pitch.
He looked me deep into my eyes and said,

Speaker 1 I need you to record this song, this song right here.

Speaker 1 Because this song is for me and Portia.

Speaker 1 And when we were in the studio, he cried. He just started bawling.
It was a little hot dog with tears streaming out of it.

Speaker 2 He said, let's not go out to the movies. Let's not go out and have some fun.
So Portia just goes, ah, like totally not buying any of it.

Speaker 2 She said, well, and I have stayed out of whatever you guys have going on. But let me tell you, that man loves you.
He loves you so much. He said, I don't want to have a music career with Portia.

Speaker 2 I want to have a music career with Drew Sedora because she's going places.

Speaker 2 And I don't want you to ever think for one second that I would ever be dealing with your baby daddy, even though he does advocate for me and Ralph and is producing my music.

Speaker 2 And we go out to the club together. I have had nothing to do with him.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And Portia this whole time is just going, uh-uh, uh, oh, that's so nice to hear.
Oh, uh-uh, oh, okay, are you done? And she's like, oh, wow. The posturings, the posturings.

Speaker 1 So she's like, okay, listen, I don't give a shit about Dennis. Fuck him, marry him, kill him.
I don't get, throw him in the basement with Ralph. Okay.
I literally don't care.

Speaker 1 But I have rooted for you. Do you understand that? I've rooted for your hair.

Speaker 1 I made you a hair ambassador for go naked.

Speaker 1 I said, come be an ambassador for go naked. The things that I do for other people.

Speaker 2 And Drew's like, and we, she goes, I did all of that. And Drew's like, and we did.
We did do all that. She goes, and all of that was because I care for you.
And my problem with you is this.

Speaker 2 You are a low down, dirty individual and you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa,

Speaker 2 what's going on now? Okay. Because since, you know what, since that phone call that you're talking about, you know what? Like you told me about Dennis and all that.

Speaker 2 And you, some, you're some low down shit to me. Very fucking low down.
And I'm here to tell you that you got the wrong one. You're fucking with the wrong one.

Speaker 2 And, you know, everyone sitting there was like,

Speaker 2 Are we missing something?

Speaker 1 What is happening here?

Speaker 2 There's some element of the story.

Speaker 1 I wasn't thinking that, weren't you?

Speaker 1 Because she even i was told me about dennis and all that so you're saying that she did call you and tell you but now you're deciding to be mad about it i didn't get it she kind of explains it later in a in a in a better way where i understand it so well now she says is there a producer here can i break the fourth wall and they're like yeah go for it and so drew's like well what did i do so she's like okay we're on a tv show and we have our family and we have friends and we have we have to support our we have our own support systems and you've been trying to go behind my back to do something dirty by asking Dennis to film with you.

Speaker 1 And Sonny is like, whoa.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, Dennis is a low down, dirty one here, too, because Dennis went to her and pitched this whole thing so he could stay on the show, even though you left his ass a long time ago and you can kick him off whenever you want to.

Speaker 1 So I think that was, you know, he at least gets some of the blame for this.

Speaker 2 I think that like, I don't, I don't know if Portia brings this up, but I think Portia just had to say, how would you feel it if I started shooting scenes with Ralph?

Speaker 2 You know, so she's like, you're just trying to get him like, you know, like, well, oh, wow, you showed me the text message with Drew. So the producer is saying, like, is Drew sneaking around?

Speaker 2 And is this upsetting you? Because she is actually a friend that you care for. And Porsche's like, no, it's not even that deep.

Speaker 2 I just got pissed because the bitch was trying to film with my baby daddy on the show. And I don't know how many times I've got to say, don't do that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So then

Speaker 1 basically now they're all like trying to kind of figure out what's going on, right? So Kenya is saying, I mean, she's a whole married woman.

Speaker 1 And Portia's like, well, I don't give a shit about what else you got going on. And Britt's like, I mean, I get it.
She's married, but that's her baby saddie, too.

Speaker 1 So we don't really know what's going on so far.

Speaker 1 So Portia's like, well, look, the second part was that she called production and told them that she was setting up a photo shoot for my company, Go Naked.

Speaker 1 So it still sounds like, why are you mad? Because she's setting up a photo shoot for your hair to publicize your hair.

Speaker 2 Well, because it's like okay so uh yeah

Speaker 2 i i it was weird i mean well i i mean i understand

Speaker 2 because it feels a little bit like a like breaking girl code to be like trying to um

Speaker 2 well you know what i think a lot of a lot of things that real housewives seem to talk about is like keeping yourself relevant on the show and so people get mad when like other people are using your tools like dennis is part of portia storyline and that's going to keep her relevant it's like wait you don't have anything to keep yourself relevant on this show.

Speaker 2 So you're going to take my, my guy to, or one of my tools to make yourself relevant. And that's not fair.
Although that was the way I interpreted it at this moment.

Speaker 2 Later on, like you said, Rami, she does sort of explain it a little bit, I think a little bit better, which is basically like, if I have a falling out with Dennis, then he gets to still shoot with you.

Speaker 2 And then he could air his side of the story and it gets used against me on my own show. And that's, that's, that's bullshit because I'm the one who brought him onto this show.

Speaker 2 She's basically like, I don't want him to turn into Peter Thomas, right?

Speaker 2 right when she explained it that way i kind of got it she's like no but at this point basically taking she's basically taking something that can be used as a weapon against me and she's giving him an opportunity to shit talk me on national tv and i by the way and i would be annoyed uh if if drew sorry i i know i would be annoyed if drew set up a photo shoot for go naked like drew is not the she is not the creator of that company she doesn't get to just like authorize photo shoots for a company even if it is publicity you can't just like do that like you were hired to promote it like under like like, like, Portia has the Portia controls the brand.

Speaker 2 You don't do that, Drew.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So, Britt's like, is this about Dennis or is this about the photo shoot? And Kenya says, Well, I think she's mad about Dennis, I think.

Speaker 1 And she's like, Well, if you want to lie, Drew, you can lie. So, then Shami is like, Do you guys want to have cake? She's like twerking in the background.
She's like, You want cake? So, then

Speaker 1 no one really knows. And Cynthia's like, Well, Portia is saying that Drew is lying.
And Drew does lie. She's lied once or or twice or three times.
Drew's lied more times than I've been married. So

Speaker 2 Drew's like, I don't lie. I just really connected with Dennis after he lost 45 pounds in one week on drop it with Drew.
That's it.

Speaker 1 My plan just makes people so sexy. He became irresistible.
So she's like, I'm taken aback. I'm just confused.
I mean, is it Drew? Is it Dennis? Is it to go naked shoot?

Speaker 1 It's just like, oh my God, she wants to be mad at me. So she's mad at me.
So let's go. Watch Drew.
I'm going to start saying things now, real, real housewivesy.

Speaker 1 Like, if you look up upset in the dictionary, you'll see Portia's picture.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 so then Shamia, they go outside and Shamia is like, okay, everyone, it's time for the real turn up. And she's...
Shamia basically says that she's had this awful year.

Speaker 2 You know, her surrogate has breast cancer. Shiloh had complications and everything.

Speaker 2 And she's decided that this year, last year she didn't get to have any cake, but this year she wants to have cake and she wants to get wet literally and figuratively.

Speaker 2 It's like, oh, okay. So you just

Speaker 1 feel literally, right?

Speaker 1 But it's figuratively wet.

Speaker 2 I'm figuratively wet right now.

Speaker 2 So they basically, she's like, okay, everyone.

Speaker 1 Say, like, I want to get wet in two literal ways.

Speaker 2 I want to get abstractly wet.

Speaker 2 So then she's like, everyone, we're going to jump in the pool because it's going to be wacky. And they all have to jump in the pool in their nice dresses.

Speaker 2 And I can't imagine anyone was happy about this.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then there's also a, there's like a bubble party too. It's like a foam party and a pool party.

Speaker 2 It's like a lot of stuff happened outside during this fight, you know? Like when we went outside, the party was totally different.

Speaker 1 I felt bad for the girl who was fire dancing with only her fingers because that's that's a weird fire dance, right?

Speaker 1 Because normally people are like swinging around big balls on chains with fire or a big fire stick.

Speaker 1 And this girl just had a couple of little birthday candles on her, on her index fingers and she's like,

Speaker 1 does this mean I don't get a tip? Motherfuckers at the fucking wet.

Speaker 2 So now we go over to Angela and Charles Oakley. And Charles is cooking.
Charles, I don't think we ever got an answer to this, but he is like cooking an enormous amount of food.

Speaker 2 He has like a

Speaker 1 like a

Speaker 2 giant pot, like a like a stock pot full of like a thousand corn cobs.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 But the thing is, this, I don't think we ever see anyone come over, right? Like, he's clearly making like a cookout or something, but no one comes over.

Speaker 2 So it just sort of looks like he's just cooking an enormous meal for three people.

Speaker 1 A lot of Brussels sprouts. I think that Charles agreed to do this show to make his cooking career happen.
I think he's probably going to be like cooking at home with Charles.

Speaker 1 And if you want to learn, you know, since this is our grumpy ass husband of the new cast, which I'm grateful for it so far, I hope he's just grumpy and not downright like abusive and evil.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Like emotionally abusive, because this is real housewives. You never know.
But so far, he's just grumpy and I like it.

Speaker 1 She goes, you want some wine, babe? And he's like, I don't drink white wine. A man shouldn't have sweet wine.
Unless maybe he's overseas or out of the country or something, cooking with Charles.

Speaker 2 Overseas or out of the country.

Speaker 2 I like this, like you get like a hall pass for sweet wine in a different country. Like in America, they can't see you, they can't see you week like that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's Germany, though. You can't tell the gays apart over there.
It's fucking Europe or someplace.

Speaker 2 Fuck that. Yeah, he goes to, he goes to Germany.
He's like, astismanti, sparkling wine.

Speaker 1 So we get to meet her daughter, who is a Mari.

Speaker 1 And so they're talking about he's mad that she didn't clean the kitchen she's like but i did clean it and he's like well i'm just saying i don't want to come home dirty you know it's dirty if i'm cooking and the kitchen is dirty you can do that in europe but it's not going to pass here go overseas or out of the country or something Maybe you were drunk in that fruity wine you enjoy so much in America.

Speaker 2 P.S. Don't ask what happened in Luxembourg.
Rhymes with easeling, but

Speaker 2 he's like, but clean this kitchen up. So Angela's just like laughing at his face.
And she's like, no, my husband, Charles, he played in the NBA, mainly with the Knicks and the Bulls.

Speaker 2 And Charles cooks, he cleans. He's like, a dream come true, unless you want to have a happy hour with Pino Grigio.

Speaker 1 So, no kidding. Unless you don't want to be gay bashed for having a fucking glass of wine.
Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 I know. Sorry about the Goverse de Miner.
Gersteminer.

Speaker 2 Kirschniner.

Speaker 2 So Angela is saying that they have four beautiful children. This

Speaker 1 is like, I identify as beer slash whiskey.

Speaker 2 Unless he goes to Thailand.

Speaker 2 Did you catch up on the white lotus, by the way?

Speaker 1 No, I'm saving it because I'm back home in LA now. So I'm just, I tried to get all my Bravo on the plane so that now I can like relax tonight.
And

Speaker 1 the separate white lotus.

Speaker 2 Popper!

Speaker 1 Popper!

Speaker 2 Parker Posey is really on one this episode. She like, she just really gets to Parker Posey it up.
Like, it's not a spoiler. She just is like in full, like, you know, she's just going for it.

Speaker 2 And it's, it's, it's amazing. So exciting.

Speaker 1 She's so great. So we found out about Angela and Charles.
And they met at a, at a party in Chicago like 10 years ago or something. I don't know, a long time ago.

Speaker 1 And then he didn't call her for 10 years, but then they happened to become neighbors in the same condo. And so then he was like, okay.
And she's like, I think, I feel like fate brought us together.

Speaker 1 Let me tell you what brought you together. Convenience.
Okay.

Speaker 1 It's going to meet my husband too. It's going to be a neighbor or it's going to be somebody who just like comes to sell me something because I'm not making any effort.
I'll tell you that.

Speaker 1 It's going to be an Amazon delivery person, as we've talked about before, a task rabbit.

Speaker 2 She's like, well, at first I was offended.

Speaker 2 when I heard that he was into me because someone told me that he was asking about the ho down the street, but it turns out he was was asking about the hoa so i got a little confused but it's all good

Speaker 1 unfortunately brittany started calling him and wouldn't stop for a while so

Speaker 2 are you interested in a timeshare

Speaker 1 So we find out that Angela's thing is buying houses and remodeling and selling them, but she's got five at a time right now, which sounds like a crazy workload.

Speaker 1 And we see them and they're huge houses. So I'm not really sure that's a lot of funding.

Speaker 2 it's a lot but seems like she's like I don't know I I've

Speaker 2 okay this may be a classic Ben naive moment but I feel like she seems like legit right I don't think

Speaker 2 she does yeah like because you know there's some people like Drew Sedora who's like we've started a new mortgage company and we've already funded 45,000 homes across the USA and you're like um okay so you have a pyramid scheme she's like I'm literally selling pyramids across America but um I feel like Angela, I feel like she just seems like someone who's like on top of her shit, you know?

Speaker 1 She does. And I think that if you buy five houses, then you're doing something.
You know what I mean? It's not like, it's not some pie in the sky thing. Now, we don't know.
We haven't seen the houses.

Speaker 1 I hope she has an episode where she goes through and shows us the remodels and stuff because, you know, I love that shit. So I hope we get that.
But yeah, I agree with you. So far, she seems real.
So

Speaker 1 she's basically gossiping with her daughter and her husband. Neither one of them care about any of this shit, but she's trying to get them interested in her new job, you know?

Speaker 1 So she's like, these girls are so messy, you know? And Drew's music, you know, she's doing it with Porsche's ex-boyfriend who apparently sells hot dogs.

Speaker 1 But, you know, I don't think Drew should have done that. But, you know, she has a reason.
So I kind of see both sides. I mean, who's going to turn down a hot dog? Am I right?

Speaker 1 He's like, not, not any man I know. That's for sure.

Speaker 2 Charles is being so ridiculous because she's trying to have her little scene and he just is clanking.

Speaker 1 He's like washing pans, like pong, pong, cling, clank, clong.

Speaker 2 She's like, could you please stop doing that during my my scene? Could you wait? He's like, sorry. I can't.
As he's sitting there with his bandana around his head, like he is working at Benny Hanna.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And he's like, I don't want to hear this story.
And she's like, well, I'm saying that she's doing work with her ex-boyfriend and that's a problem.

Speaker 1 And he's like, well, you did work with your ex-boyfriend. And she's like, okay,

Speaker 1 Charles. He's like, yeah, well, it was fine then, right? Oh, well, what? It's always some well with some water in it.
A man said that. Don't you forget it.

Speaker 2 Better not be a well with some white wine in it. That's what I got to say.

Speaker 1 And he goes,

Speaker 1 he goes, let them talk about you. Don't talk about them.
Don't be a follower. Be a leader.

Speaker 2 She's like, okay. So she says, the secret for loving a man like Charles is just letting him be who he is, which is someone who bangs pans, pots and pans around and has strange views on white wine.

Speaker 1 Just a man who could benefit from a few soul fights. Am I right?

Speaker 2 Just a man who walks around the kitchen a lot saying, yes, Chef, because you saw season two of the bear. Congratulations.

Speaker 1 So their other kid comes in. He's like, Are you Bruce Lee, Dad? And he goes, Now, why would you say that? And he goes, You're a stupid bandana.
And he's like, Oh, you got jokes, mom.

Speaker 2 I don't have jokes, but your bandana is making me laugh. So now we go to lunch with Portia and Kenya at a place called Devon, which is funny because is this a restaurant named after a type of sofa?

Speaker 1 Is that a sofa? What's a Devon? Divonne's a sofa.

Speaker 2 Divon is like,

Speaker 2 it's like a, I think it's like a sofa that's sort of where you know the back. I could be wrong.

Speaker 2 I'm going to double check, but I think it's like where the back is like not, it's like you have half of a back.

Speaker 2 Like the first half, one half the sofa has a back, and it sort of swoops down into like no back.

Speaker 1 Oh, like a fainting couch kind of thing?

Speaker 2 Yeah, you know what? It's like the sofas they had at the at the at the hotel we had a Wednesday at in Toronto.

Speaker 1 Oh, I didn't notice anything. Did you notice the sofa? No, I was out of it.

Speaker 2 I'm sorry. Did you notice the Divans? Or a Divon?

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's like, I guess it's like a fainting couch. I don't know.

Speaker 2 I think it's like, I think it's basically like a sofa where, like, if you sit back on the sofa in the wrong place, you'll fall off of it into the wall.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.
I don't like this. So, fortunately.

Speaker 2 Someone named a restaurant after it. So

Speaker 1 that was very fancy because if I went to a restaurant, it would be named like Ikea Sectional.

Speaker 2 oh ronnie i forgot we have to wrap up this i have a reservation at futon later so

Speaker 1 oh my god i'll be a beanbag chair and come say hi it's right down the street we're going to debon this weekend

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Speaker 1 So Portia comes in her Rolls-Royce, and it says Mandarin Seats gifted by Simon in 2022. And then it says Kenya's is her Rolls-Royce that she bought herself.
So it's like the competing Rolls-Royce's.

Speaker 1 Whose is more valid? Those are some big-ass cars. I know they're very expensive and everybody's like, oh my God, I'm so fancy, my Rolls-Royce.
Here's what I think.

Speaker 1 Don't fucking park next to me in the Whole Foods or the, you know, the Ralphs or whatever, because I will purposely ding your car with my car door because you're taking up two spaces and that's not cool.

Speaker 1 No one needs to be driving that bus. Get that shit out of my way.

Speaker 2 You know, get like a Hyundai Elantra.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 It'll do just what you need.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 Get a Kia.

Speaker 1 Okay. It wouldn't go that far.

Speaker 1 I'm not an anti-mice car in general. It's just like, does every car have to, you know, remind me about your penis? You know?

Speaker 2 Get a Mazda. You know, I just don't know.
You don't need these giant ass cars that look like enormous sneakers, right?

Speaker 2 Just get something that like fits in the parking spot and gets you from where you need to be and it's not going to put you into debt because that's what's going to happen to both these women.

Speaker 1 Well, those are expensive cars. Oh, my gosh.
Okay, so Porsche, they talk about how they've had a love-hate relationship. And, you know, we've done this for years with these two.

Speaker 1 Right now, they're friends, and we see their fights, their best-of fights.

Speaker 1 And now I'd like to introduce Miss America 1993. She's like, Miss USA, sorry.
Bye, Ashy. Bye.

Speaker 2 That was the origin for their entire feud, was that Miss America comment. I mean, for like 10 years.

Speaker 2 But now they're 10 years. Can I 10 glorious years?

Speaker 2 But now they have to be friends, mainly because it's like death becomes her, where they realize, oh, we've been at each other's throats, but we need each other because if we like one wrong move and these new girls are going to replace us.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 now they're just like,

Speaker 2 they're friends now under the guise of that they both have daughters. So that gives them perspective.
I'm like,

Speaker 2 since when does having children mean that adults can't fight? Have you not watched any of the other real housewives?

Speaker 1 Well, especially this. We've already seen it on this show.
Remember the first year they both had kids? They're like, oh my God, look at us. We both have kids.

Speaker 1 And Kenya came to Pilar's, you know, what was it? Baby shower, not baby shower, but like first birthday party. It was a princess party.
And they were like, oh my God, we're going to be best friends.

Speaker 1 And like two weeks later, they're like, die, bitch. I hope you die.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 and they're basically like, oh, God, we're just too old to fight at this point. I'm like, again,

Speaker 2 many other housewife shows,

Speaker 2 Tamra and Shannon.

Speaker 2 There's a lot of evidence against that theory. So

Speaker 2 Kenya, Porsche has a cold and she's

Speaker 2 like, you have a cold. She's like, yeah, when you left the party, Shamia made us jump in the pool,

Speaker 2 which is probably not where her cold came from. But I feel like this is a little Easter egg to a future feud between her and Shamia.

Speaker 1 You made me jump in

Speaker 1 bubble water. I got sick.

Speaker 1 So So Kenya's like, yeah, I'd met with Drew a couple of days before, and she mentioned Dennis in the music. And I said, Dennis in the music.
And Portia's like, well, he did do a kids.

Speaker 1 He did do a kids' album for my daughter. And then we see the cover art for this album.
And it's called All-Star Kids, you know, written in crayon. Now, this, I believe.
Oh, my God. This is a resume.

Speaker 2 This doesn't make it better. This doesn't make it better.
That Drew Sedora is like, well, Clive Davis rejected me, so I've decided to go to an off-brand kids' bop producer

Speaker 2 who couldn't even do kids bop. I mean, this guy doesn't even have as many credentials as whoever it was that made the songs for Danielle Cabral on New Jersey last season.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's pretty bad.

Speaker 1 So I like that Porsche's trying to stick up for him too. She's like, well, he has a children's album.
So, I mean, it's not like he's nobody. Okay.

Speaker 1 So Drew's, she's like, look, Drew makes shit up in her mind. And I don't know what she's about to say or do, but I root for her and I just go with it.

Speaker 1 But then finding out that you're trying to film with him on here without telling me, that's not cool.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And she says that Dennis, she's like, Dennis is my co-parent and we have a great relationship.
And when it's good, it's good.

Speaker 2 And like, when is Dennis the menace, you know, and petty P, it's bad. And we see flashback from the spin-off with Portia and Dennis yelling at each other while his mom is watching or participating.

Speaker 3 And Portia's like, I don't want him to film anything that's going to compromise the growth that we have had.

Speaker 2 I don't think it's about compromising the growth. It's that, again, she just doesn't want him to have a chance to talk shit about her with Drew.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Kenya says, yeah, I think he's just trying to have his cake and eat it too, which is a bad thing to say with Dennis because Dennis is always going to have the cake and eat it. It's cake.

Speaker 1 The man knows how to enjoy cake, you know? I don't really like that. I want to have my cake and eat it too, too.
I want to have it, swallow it,

Speaker 1 eat it. I always liquefy it and rub it all over me.
I'll have cake any way I can. I don't want to be judged about it.
So, for this, I stand up for the hot dog guy.

Speaker 2 I have to say, I've never liked that expression just because I think it's confusing. Don't you feel like by eating the cake, you're having the cake?

Speaker 2 And I understand it's supposed to be that having the cake means that the cake is on your plate, but then when you eat it, you don't have it anymore.

Speaker 1 But I kind of feel like when you eat it, you've had it. So, no, I think it means like it's since it means the same thing, you're trying to, you're trying to have it twice.

Speaker 1 Like you're trying to have it both ways. You're trying to have both expressions because when you have your cake, you have your cake.
And when you eat your cake, you eat your cake.

Speaker 1 And it's like, well, you can't have it. Like, you don't need to have it both ways.
You already had it one way, you greedy fuck.

Speaker 2 Well, according to Wikipedia, the proverb literally means, they say that's the direct quote, the proverb literally means you cannot simultaneously retain possession of a cake and eat it too.

Speaker 2 Cause once the cake is eaten, it is gone. I'm like, no, it's in my stomach.

Speaker 2 I think it should be you can't see your cake and eat it too.

Speaker 1 Does that make me wrong? I still don't understand it. You see, that's the thing about that.

Speaker 2 I like your interpretation of it. I don't know if you're just a traditional and orthodox way of using it, but I think it's a nice way of using that phrase.

Speaker 2 I think it could work. And guess what? You know why it can work? Because we can see our cake and eat it too.

Speaker 2 We can have it both ways.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 1 of course she's like, well, our family right now is very, very vulnerable. Okay.

Speaker 1 And so Drew should be trying to protect her the way I've protected her.

Speaker 1 Did she not mention go naked hair? I go, okay. So Kenya says, yeah, you know, well, I see you spinning around the block with that little Rolls-Royce that your estranged husband took from you.

Speaker 1 I'm like, wait a minute. How do you have that car? And she's like, oh, you saw his post? And she's like, what do you mean I saw his post.
He does like 50 posts a day.

Speaker 1 Instagram is only him doing posts about what a shithead you are.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and we see all these things where he posts these stories like, question, is it appropriate to exchange expensive gifts with an ex while legally married to someone else?

Speaker 2 Hashtag inquiring minds want to know.

Speaker 2 Here we, here we go again with Underground Railroad cornering herself with why an experienced car enthusiast at 14 years made a strategic business decision to conduct multi-million dollar car rents.

Speaker 2 Stay in the Mercedes-Benz. I bought your name.
Okay, he needs a social media manager.

Speaker 2 That's just not good shade. These are not good shady stories.

Speaker 1 But it's

Speaker 1 tightened up. Because he says, hashtag ignorance is a decease.

Speaker 2 And his last one, question, would you rather cry homeless in a Rolls-Royce or in a Honda Civic?

Speaker 2 That's actually a pretty good. That's actually an interesting question, I have to say.
I take it all back.

Speaker 2 What would you rather cry homeless in?

Speaker 1 Isn't that a question for Bethany? Oh, my God. I'm homeless.

Speaker 2 I'm homeless. I'm homeless.

Speaker 2 Because I feel like if you're in in a rolls royce crying homeless people would just be like just like you're you're rolls royce you can literally buy a house like or live in the rolls they're big enough yeah just double park homelessly in your rolls so kenya's like how did we ever get to this place and it's so weird seeing kenya is just a backup like supporting character i don't know if that works i think i think it actually works because she doesn't she hasn't had anything to offer seriously in a few years and so having her as just someone who can kind of like be there and then be shady when she needs to be i think it works And for some of these pros, these pro villains, you know, like I think Vicki Gunbelson was also pretty good as a plug-and-play friend of who can just be mean when you need her to be mean.

Speaker 2 We don't need to have a whole story about what's going on in their lives. So, I think this does work with Kenya.
You know, I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 Well, Kenya's not going down quietly, that's for sure. She's been tweeting.

Speaker 1 Oh, really? I'm the one put on pause. Well, look at it, I'm the only one trending from this show.

Speaker 2 It's funny, Kenya not going down quietly. That's exactly what she said about Brit, I think.

Speaker 1 So it took me a minute. Think about it.
Think about it.

Speaker 2 My name is Gina, and all I want to say, think about it.

Speaker 1 So, Kenya is asking her, So, how did we get to this place, Portia? You and Simon, everyone thought it would last forever.

Speaker 1 And Portia's like, Well, I didn't know he was lying about certain things, you know, because we were on a jet and then we got surrounded, and there was police every place, and FBI, and Homeland Security, and terrorists.

Speaker 1 It was crazy. Literally, everybody was teaming up against him.
Huge. And I was like, what's going on here? And then he said, well, one time I was in this car.
I didn't know the car was stolen.

Speaker 1 And, you know, you can't do that when you have a green card because they get real mad if you do anything with the green card. And Kenya's like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's true. That's true.
I mean, let me tell you, the amount of people that I've known sitting in a stolen car with a green card, trust me, I know. We're good.
You're right.

Speaker 2 Silent better watch out these days. So Kenya is like, it's so true.

Speaker 2 And Support is like, well so when the judgment got released into the press about him being married you know some scam some scamming in the past some credit card fraud being deported and this and that i literally was like wait what what's all this

Speaker 2 i would be just like i'm leaving you i mean she did but it's just funny like you know when it came out that he was a complete fraudster and a con artist and scamming people and we'd already been surrounded by police officers i was like huh that's weird.

Speaker 2 It's just so understated on her part.

Speaker 1 I'm like, oh, you know, we were on a jet and then we got surrounded by, you know, every agency, every letter agency in existence. But he explained it away, you know, and I got it, you know.

Speaker 1 Unless we're totally here about the, you know, the sitting there in a stolen car thing from like 20 years ago, I'm sure. It's no big deal.

Speaker 2 I would really like an explanation from Bravo why they did not have cameras running. They just, it's just, they just should have had them there, even if they didn't have a show ready yet.

Speaker 2 Just get the, keep the cameras on Porsche at all times yes

Speaker 1 um so kenny's like uh-huh

Speaker 1 so you were his fourth wife and portia you see portia try to decide what she's gonna say here and then she's like fuck it i'll just say it she goes um fifth fifth actually kenny's like fifth she goes yeah because there was another marriage and that was fake so yeah so um i filed for divorce and then i'm at my mom's house and then my phone beeps and one of the cameras is still on in the living room and he's got women in the the house.

Speaker 1 Can you believe it? A man who was already in trouble for sitting in a stolen car 20 years ago.

Speaker 2 I can't believe this person who I found out was a complete faker and has scams left and right actually had girls over at the house the first night I was out of there.

Speaker 1 I can't believe it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So then she tells us her love story. She's like, you know, when I really knew Simon was my person was because I wrote a book about being treated badly by men.

Speaker 1 And he said, I read that book, and I'll protect you. Portia, nobody read that book.

Speaker 1 People may have bought it, but nobody read that book.

Speaker 2 No one read it. They just didn't.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Did you? I didn't even know she had that book. Did you?

Speaker 2 You know, not really. Maybe I knew it at one point, but it's like Portia's single, Portia's book.
I feel like a lot of her creative endeavors sort of get forgotten about.

Speaker 2 And I love Portia.

Speaker 1 Now, listen, I'll buy some go-naked hair.

Speaker 1 Maybe I'll show up to Atlanta and some go-naked clips.

Speaker 2 Is that what go naked is? It's that you they're hair.

Speaker 1 Yes. Why is it called go naked? My head is naked and she sells hair.

Speaker 2 So I figure it should go naked by putting something on.

Speaker 2 I think it was a branding issue. Did Drusidora come up with the name?

Speaker 2 It can't be that.

Speaker 1 Not a terrible point, actually.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 she's like, I just wanted a man, a man who was honest, a man who left his wife for me, basically, after I flirted with him at a pool. pool, Portia.

Speaker 1 I can't feel sorry for Portia. I'm sorry, and also, Portia has a way of telling stories like Drew Sedora tells stories where she's just leaving chunks of information out.

Speaker 1 Like we don't all have the Instagram, Portia. Come on now.

Speaker 1 And even Kenya is, Kenya's like, listen, I need someone to shoot with, so I'm going to be nice to you this season.

Speaker 1 Kenya, Kenya's just looking like she wants to rip into this and she's not letting her. She really does.

Speaker 2 She really does.

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