Chief Change Officer
What’s Stopping You from Outgrowing Yourself?
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.
Chief Change Officer isn’t just another podcast. It ranks in the Top 3% globally, hit #1 in Careers (US), and cracked the Top 10 in Business (US)—because it offers what others don’t: expansive human intelligence, shared by the world’s most extraordinary thinkers and doers.
This is the space for transformation gurus, bold hearts, black sheep, and unsung visionaries. We go beyond digitized tips and AI-smooth talk. Here, you get real, time-tested, experience-driven wisdom—the kind that blends logic and love, art and science, hindsight and foresight.
For me, this show marks career transition #18. Across 17 transitions, I’ve been mentored by global changemakers who helped me emerge stronger and freer. Now, I’m passing that power forward—through raw, unfiltered conversations with extraordinary people across cultures, industries, and identities.
If you’re a growth progressive, a black horse, a visionary underdog, or someone boldly rewriting the rules—you’re already one of us. Because you are the Chief Change Officer.
Our mission?
To help you become wiser in action, clearer in thought, and more ambitious in motion—so you can outgrow yourself and unlock outcomes beyond imagination or calculation.
A better you is already unfolding.
130,000+ followers are outgrowing.
Join them on LinkedIn, Apple, Spotify, and YouTube @chiefchangeofficer.
Episodes (54)
#270 Nina Sossamon-Pogue: From Olympic Dreams to Pink Slips—and Back Again — Part Two
Nina Sossamon-Pogue has flipped, twisted, and cartwheeled her way through life’s curveballs. From U.S. Gymnastics Team hopeful to beloved news anchor—and then unexpectedly unemployed—Nina’s story is...
#269 Nina Sossamon-Pogue: From Olympic Dreams to Pink Slips—and Back Again — Part One
Nina Sossamon-Pogue has flipped, twisted, and cartwheeled her way through life’s curveballs. From U.S. Gymnastics Team hopeful to beloved news anchor—and then unexpectedly unemployed—Nina’s story is...
#268 Rebecca Sutherns: Building a Life That Flexes—Not Breaks — Part Two
Rebecca Sutherns has been running her own consulting practice for 27 years—without a grand plan, a big team, or a perfect script. In this two-part series, she shares how she built a career around...
#267 Rebecca Sutherns: Building a Life That Flexes—Not Breaks — Part One
Rebecca Sutherns has been running her own consulting practice for 27 years—without a grand plan, a big team, or a perfect script. In this two-part series, she shares how she built a career around...
#266 Jean Zhou: From Balance Sheets to Box Office
Jean Zhou’s resume reads like the setup for a sitcom: sociology student walks into an accounting office, detours through venture capital, and exits stage left into the film industry. Now leading Wind...
#265 Colin Savage: The Frequent Flyer of Change Has Thoughts on AI—and Lifelong Learning — Part Three
For Colin Savage, change isn’t something you manage—it’s a lifestyle. With a career that spans seven countries, seven secondments, and over 70 global projects, he’s practically got a frequent flyer...
#264 Colin Savage: The Frequent Flyer of Change Has Thoughts on AI—and Lifelong Learning — Part Two
For Colin Savage, change isn’t something you manage—it’s a lifestyle. With a career that spans seven countries, seven secondments, and over 70 global projects, he’s practically got a frequent flyer...
#263 Colin Savage: The Frequent Flyer of Change Has Thoughts on AI—and Lifelong Learning — Part One
For Colin Savage, change isn’t something you manage—it’s a lifestyle. With a career that spans seven countries, seven secondments, and over 70 global projects, he’s practically got a frequent flyer...
#262 Erica Sosna: Rebuilding Her Career—and Spine—One Step at a Time – Part Two
Erica Sosna literally rewrote the rules of a career pivot—because in 2022, life handed her one she didn’t ask for. After an accident left her paralyzed, the author of The Career Equation had to...
#261 Erica Sosna: Rebuilding Her Career—and Spine—One Step at a Time – Part One
Erica Sosna literally rewrote the rules of a career pivot—because in 2022, life handed her one she didn’t ask for. After an accident left her paralyzed, the author of The Career Equation had to...
#260 Rahshea Cardiff: From Starbucks to Startups—Serving Joy at Work – Part Two
Tech meets heart. Rahshea Cardiff returns to share how she’s helping Happy Companies bring actual joy to the workplace—without mandating pizza parties. With two decades of experience at Best Buy,...
#259 Rahshea Cardiff: From Starbucks to Startups—Serving Joy at Work – Part One
What do Starbucks, Microsoft, and happiness have in common? Rahshea Cardiff. In this episode, we sit down with the VP of Partnerships at Happy Companies, who’s not only got the résumé, but the...
#258 Alison Stewart: The LinkedIn Message That Changed Everything — Part Two
Alison Stewart, Overalls COO, proved that LinkedIn isn’t just a place for humblebrags and job titles. In Part One of this two-part series, Alison breaks down how a simple connection turned into...
#257 Alison Stewart: The LinkedIn Message That Changed Everything — Part One
Alison Stewart, Overalls COO, proved that LinkedIn isn’t just a place for humblebrags and job titles. In Part One of this two-part series, Alison breaks down how a simple connection turned into...
#256 Nicole F. Roberts: From Neuroscience to Generosity—Changing Lives, One Detour at a Time — Part Two
Nicole F. Roberts, Doctor of Public Health and co-author of Generosity WINS, didn’t follow a straight path—and that’s exactly the point. From neuroscience labs to human rights work to hosting a brain...
#255 Nicole F. Roberts: From Neuroscience to Generosity—Changing Lives, One Detour at a Time — Part One
Nicole F. Roberts, Doctor of Public Health and co-author of Generosity WINS, didn’t follow a straight path—and that’s exactly the point. From neuroscience labs to human rights work to hosting a brain...
#254 Deborah Perry Piscione: The End of Traditional Work Begins — Part Two
Traditional employment is on life support, and Deborah Perry Piscione is here to explain why. In Part 2 of this two-part series, she breaks down the radical shift in how we work, hire, and learn—plus...
#253 Deborah Perry Piscione: The End of Traditional Work Begins — Part One
What happens when a political insider, a Silicon Valley entrepreneur, and a bestselling author walk into a podcast? You get Deborah Perry Piscione. She’s gone from shaping policy in Washington, D.C.,...
#252 Work3 Institute Co-Founder Josh Drean: Employment is Dead. Now What? — Part Three
Traditional employment is on life support, and Josh Drean is here to pull the plug. In Part 3 of this three-part series, Josh and Vince take a sledgehammer to outdated workplace models, from...
#251 Work3 Institute Co-Founder Josh Drean: Employment is Dead. Now What? — Part Two
What happens when a bold idea meets a cold call? A book that challenges everything we thought we knew about work. In Part 2 of this three-part series, Josh Drean reveals how Employment is Dead went...
#250 Work3 Institute Co-Founder Josh Drean: Employment is Dead. Now What? — Part One
Traditional employment is on life support, and Josh Drean is here to pull the plug. In Part 1 of this three-part series, Josh and Vince take a sledgehammer to outdated workplace models, from...
#249 Chris Hare: When the Story Guy Becomes the Story — Part Three
You’ve heard of ghostwriters, but Chris Hare is more like a ghost-narrator—helping execs at places like Microsoft and Amazon tell stories that actually land. But now? He’s in the hot seat. In this...
#248 Chris Hare: When the Story Guy Becomes the Story — Part Two
You’ve heard of ghostwriters, but Chris Hare is more like a ghost-narrator—helping execs at places like Microsoft and Amazon tell stories that actually land. But now? He’s in the hot seat. In this...
#247 Chris Hare: When the Story Guy Becomes the Story — Part One
You’ve heard of ghostwriters, but Chris Hare is more like a ghost-narrator—helping execs at places like Microsoft and Amazon tell stories that actually land. But now? He’s in the hot seat. In this...
#246 Todd Davis: 30 Years at FranklinCovey—7 Habits They Don’t Teach in Business School — Part Two
Todd Davis, former Chief People Officer at FranklinCovey—a publicly listed leadership training company—spent 30 years coaching executives, teams, and organizations on what actually makes work work. As...
#245 Todd Davis: 30 Years at FranklinCovey—7 Habits They Don’t Teach in Business School — Part One
Todd Davis, former Chief People Officer at FranklinCovey—a publicly listed leadership training company—spent 30 years coaching executives, teams, and organizations on what actually makes work work. As...
#244 Lisa Bodell: The Future is Simple—If We Stop Overcomplicating Everything — Part Two
Lisa Bodell, a Top 40 global speaker on simplification, innovation, and change, has built a career helping companies stop drowning in complexity and start thinking ahead. As the CEO of FutureThink,...
#243 Lisa Bodell: The Future is Simple—If We Stop Overcomplicating Everything — Part One
Lisa Bodell, a Top 40 global speaker on simplification, innovation, and change, has built a career helping companies stop drowning in complexity and start thinking ahead. As the CEO of FutureThink,...
#242 Monte Wood on Generosity: The Most Underrated Career Cheat Code — Part Two
Ever met someone who cleans a public restroom just to make life better for the next person? Monte Wood’s wife does it, and he swears by the same principle—generosity isn’t just a virtue; it’s a...
#241 Monte Wood on Generosity: The Most Underrated Career Cheat Code — Part One
Ever met someone who cleans a public restroom just to make life better for the next person? Monte Wood’s wife does it, and he swears by the same principle—generosity isn’t just a virtue; it’s a...
#240 Dominic Carter: Cracking Japan’s Business Code – From Market Research to Aging Tech – Part Two
Dominic Carter, CEO of The Carter Group, isn’t just talking about aging—he’s living it. Now in his 50s and navigating his parents’ aging journey, he’s on a mission to rethink how we grow older. From...
#239 Dominic Carter: Cracking Japan’s Business Code – From Market Research to Aging Tech – Part One
Dominic Carter, CEO of The Carter Group, didn’t just move to Japan—he cracked the code to thriving in one of the world’s toughest business landscapes. From a wide-eyed expat with shaky Japanese to...
#238 Paul Austin on Rethinking Growth: Can Psychedelics Unlock Your Potential—Legally?
Microdosing or myth-making? Paul Austin, CEO of Third Wave, argues that psychedelics, when approached with caution and responsibility, can fuel creativity, clarity, and transformation. But with legal...
#237 Stuck in Career Purgatory? Darcy Eikenberg on Turning Work Woes into Wins
When work feels like an endless loop of bad meetings and office drama, quitting seems like the only way out. But what if you didn’t have to? Darcy Eikenberg, author of Red Cape Rescue: Save Your...
#236 From Disney Magic to Real-World Teamwork: Tricia & Edward’s Guide to Collaboration That Works – Part One
Tricia Cerrone and Edward J. van Luinen know a thing or two about collaboration—first as Disney colleagues, then as long-time friends, and now as business partners. They’re writing a book to help...
#235 From Disney Magic to Real-World Teamwork: Tricia & Edward’s Guide to Collaboration That Works – Part One
Sure, it’s easy to “network,” but what about actually working well with others? Tricia Cerrone and Edward J. van Luinen know a thing or two about collaboration—first as Disney colleagues, then as...
#234 From Hitchhiker to Head-Hunter: Gary Bremermann’s Wild Career Ride — Part Two
Gary Bremermann didn’t take the straight road to success—he took the scenic (and bumpy) route. After hitchhiking across North America, dropping out of college twice, building a global business, and...
#233 From Rainy-Day Idea to $20M: Chris Schrader’s Race for Change – Part Two
Some ideas fizzle out with the rain. Others, like Chris Schrader’s, spark global movements. What started as a simple walk across England in honor of a friend turned into the 24 Hour Race, a worldwide...
#232 From Rainy-Day Idea to $20M: Chris Schrader’s Race for Change – Part One
Some ideas fizzle out with the rain. Others, like Chris Schrader’s, spark global movements. What started as a simple walk across England in honor of a friend turned into the 24 Hour Race, a worldwide...
#231 From Hitchhiker to Head-Hunter: Gary Bremermann’s Wild Career Ride — Part One
Gary Bremermann didn’t take the straight road to success—he took the scenic (and bumpy) route. After hitchhiking across North America, dropping out of college twice, building a global business, and...
#230 Michael Sakraida: Change Your Money Mindset, Change Your Life – Part Two
Money can buy a lot of things, but according to Michael Sakraida, it’s only one-third of the real wealth equation. In Money, Balance and Joy, he lays out why financial freedom isn’t just about bank...
#229 Michael Sakraida: Change Your Money Mindset, Change Your Life – Part One
Money can buy a lot of things, but according to Michael Sakraida, it’s only one-third of the real wealth equation. In Money, Balance and Joy, he lays out why financial freedom isn’t just about bank...
#228 John Gates: Sweaty Palms? How to Negotiate Your Salary Without the Panic
Think salary negotiations are just about money? Think again. John Gates, author of ACT YOUR WAGE, reveals why your paycheck is about more than just numbers—it’s about confidence, clarity, and knowing...
#227 Sara Lobkovich: Why Playing Life on Hard Mode Might Be Your Best Advantage – Part Two
Ever felt like the world wasn’t built for how your brain works? Same here. That’s why this two-part series with Sara Lobkovich is a must-listen. A strategist, author, and proud out-of-the-box thinker,...
#226 Sara Lobkovich: Why Playing Life on Hard Mode Might Be Your Best Advantage – Part One
Ever felt like the world wasn’t built for how your brain works? Same here. That’s why this two-part series with Sara Lobkovich is a must-listen. A strategist, author, and proud out-of-the-box thinker,...
#225 Love, Logic, and a Reality Check: Waverly Deutsch on Changing for the Better – Part Three
All good things must come to an end—including our Love and Logic series with the inimitable Waverly Deutsch. A lifelong champion for LGBTQ and women entrepreneurs, Waverly has worn many hats—academic,...
#224 Love, Logic, and a Reality Check: Waverly Deutsch on Changing for the Better – Part Two
Some coaches teach you skills. Others change your entire trajectory. In this special Love and Logic series, we dive into the remarkable journey of Waverly Deutsch—an LGBTQ advocate, former theater...
#223 Love, Logic, and a Reality Check: Waverly Deutsch on Changing for the Better – Part One
In Part 1, Former Clinical Professor of Entrepreneurship from Chicago Booth School of Business Waverly Deutsch shares why tough love is the best love. She’ll call out your business blind spots—but...
#222 Inheritance? No Thanks. Chris Quek’s Boldest Bet Yet – Part 2
Chris Quek didn’t just break the family mold—he shattered it. While most would embrace a built-in career in a thriving family business, he took the road less traveled, heading to Malaysia to chart his...
#221 Inheritance? No Thanks. Chris Quek’s Boldest Bet Yet – Part 1
Chris Quek didn’t just break the family mold—he shattered it. While most would embrace a built-in career in a thriving family business, he took the road less traveled, heading to Malaysia to chart his...
#220 Sihame El Kaouakibi: How to Fail Spectacularly—Then Win Even Bigger – Part Two
Sihame El Kaouakibi is a force of nature. A Moroccan immigrant, former Belgian parliamentarian, and fierce diversity advocate, she’s tackled burnout, bankruptcy, and political storms—only to come out...
#219 Sihame El Kaouakibi: How to Fail Spectacularly—Then Win Even Bigger – Part One
Sihame El Kaouakibi is a force of nature. A Moroccan immigrant, former Belgian parliamentarian, and fierce diversity advocate, she’s tackled burnout, bankruptcy, and political storms—only to come out...
#218 Dr. Bridget Burns: Changing Higher Ed from Turf Wars to Teamwork — Part Two
Higher ed loves a good rivalry, but what if universities stopped competing like reality show contestants and actually worked together? Dr. Bridget Burns, CEO of the University Innovation Alliance, is...
#217 Dr. Bridget Burns: Changing Higher Ed from Turf Wars to Teamwork — Part One
Higher ed loves a good rivalry, but what if universities stopped competing like reality show contestants and actually worked together? Dr. Bridget Burns, CEO of the University Innovation Alliance, is...
About this Podcast
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Vince Chan 2025
Language
en